Here it is FINALLY. My first army. It's definately a work in progress so keep that in mind. I started gaming just this year, I grew up in a small town where there's not much interest in Warhammer - so my overall exposure was limited. After moving here, I met my boyfriend. He's addicted, and after watching/playing a few games got kinda interested. But I said I'd never do it. Nope. This continued for a long while 'til I picked up the paintbrush - and now I just can't stop. It's been a learning experience but one I'm really enjoying. So painting is my main focus, being without prior experience or tutorial - I think it looks quite good but is nowhere near display level - yet! Before I begin off-topic rambling, here's a look at my two squads so far: worth 480 pts. (incl. Skulltaker not shown)

Daemonettes of Slaaanesh: Because Chaos is so undefined and I wanted something a little girlier these are bright purple with blue hair.







Bloodletters of Khorne: These are Spawn inspired looking (hope Todd McFarlane doesn't mind) but the more I stare at them they remind me of gremlins. Can't wait to start on my Skulltaker








So this is what I got so far, let me know what you think Also I appreciate any tips from people who know what they're talking about - so that I can always improve - and that's what I strive at.

Nice, i like black blood letters! You've definitely achieved what you were after with the daemonettes, looks good.

What else have you got to paint?



Slappy

Just the skulltaker... but he will be lots of fun. I was thinking of getting a Soul Grinder next and I'm kinda unsure about any other units I want to get.

Soulgrinders are awesome!

And I like the old fashioned Daemonettes.

I quite like the skulltaker model. However the skulls in his horns are terrible. I'm going to buy one eventually though.

If you are planning to use your army for WHFB then take a look at this http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics12/img47d7ceb3dd9b1.jpg

It's an awesome model (The guy he's holding is a conversion though, the regular model is pointing) but you can only get it through the GW site.


Soulgrinders are sweet too!

To be honest the newer daemonettes aren't as appealing to me. They're not as sexy as i'd imagine a seducer to be.

I would also agree the amount of skulls on the skulltaker are overkill. But he's pretty bad ass nonetheless. And that pic is awesome - how much would he go for?

Any ideas for units that are interesting to paint?

well if your just after something to paint i enjoyed painting sister of battle seraphim but if you meant daemons in particular i don't know... the older blood letters were nice to paint (the ones from last edition with axes and manes) hope this helps also, have you thought about varnishing the black on the blood letters, funny the models them selves remind me of the violator...

Woot, very nice. I like your take on the daemonettes and the bloodletters. Very nice.

He's $30 dollars! As he is Direct-Only.


Im still gunna buy him though

Varnish? no never thought of it - what effect would that accomplish?

Thanks for all the positive feedback

And ya should go for it. That's a pretty reasonable price.

binky wrote:Varnish? no never thought of it - what effect would that accomplish?

Thanks for all the positive feedback

And ya should go for it. That's a pretty reasonable price.

makes things shiney

Hi, I noticed I have quite a few views and almost no posts. I will try and update but am in the middle of midterms so new info/pics may take awhile to surface. But this is a blog so feel free to tell me what you think, ideas, fluff, even what I could do better on. Thanks.

I'd suggest giving the bodies of all those models some better highlighting. There's a little too much contrast, IMHO.

What do you mean by better highlighting?

Hey. I really like what's going on around the 'Letters eyes. But could you provide us with a side on view, so we can see how the back colour changes from orangish to blackish? Sorry if the back isn't orange, just kinda looks like that from here.

Do you mean a definition? Er, I guess adding lighter shades of paint along some surfaces of the model that give it more definition.

Perhaps this would help?

I think emphasis would be a better word

Either way, the idea is that models are too small to show how the light would be playing across the features of thing it is representing in scale. Highlighting, along with shading, counters that.

Indeed, a little tip with highlighting, if you find your highlighting is too harsh, for example it looks like a solid line of grey on black, but a black wash on the highlighted and all the black areas to soften the highlighted areas, models looking good though! I really like the green tongues... I'm contemplating making a model of Lucifer.... He was so damn awesome... and Judge Dredd come to think of it....

karimabuseer wrote:Hey. I really like what's going on around the 'Letters eyes. But could you provide us with a side on view, so we can see how the back colour changes from orangish to blackish? Sorry if the back isn't orange, just kinda looks like that from here.

Yes the backs are orange - the fault is a really bad camera angle. I'll try and take a better picture. And thanks for the advice, I know what you meant by highlighting - im just not sure how to achieve the right effect. On such a small scale I doubt it'll make much difference but I might try it. @ great unclean one Thanks for the compliment.

An example of the difference it makes:



GUO has some good tips above for your black ones.

Nice start. Keep us posted on any progress. Just one comment, are you doing them for 40K or Fantasy? Your Daemonettes are on round bases and your Bloodletters are on square ones.

Flashman wrote:Nice start. Keep us posted on any progress. Just one comment, are you doing them for 40K or Fantasy? Your Daemonettes are on round bases and your Bloodletters are on square ones.

Haha...40 k. The bases being different was a completely honest mistake (there may have been alcohol involved. or I really wasn't paying attention.) Strangely enough the bloodletters came with two sets of bases and I didn't notice until they were assembled. lol.

No problem, just clip them off and stick them onto a round base ^_^ Square bases are just wrong fundamentally.... Are you basing them btw?

Hey , I see you want this army too be bright , I think you would be better off using a wash method , its a great technique for beginners and turns out really nice models . This method also works really well on things like daemons .

First you want to prime your model white ( which i see is what you use ) . second you want to pick up the set of washes , its really thinned down paint . Say we are working with your daemonett , you would take your purple wash and give all the flesh a nice wash , the wash will set in the recesses and lightly tint the raised areas leaving the recesses darker than the raised area which gives the apperance of blending with minimal effort , repeat coats til you are happy with the desired shade . Than you go to the cloth which you would repeat with the green wash , than finally the metal area , where I would recomend using a coat of bolt gun metal washed over with sepia gold than a light wash of the brown wash . and you basically done . All thats left is dot the eyes with red or yellow . Oh for the lobster like claws I would wash them with the brown wash about 2 coats than wash with a light coat of the black wash .

On the gw site they give a nice tutorial with pictures on using washes that will give you a better understanding of what iam talking about .
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If you have any questions just ask .

slann wrote:Hey , I see you want this army too be bright , I think you would be better off using a wash method , its a great technique for beginners and turns out really nice models . This method also works really well on things like daemons ...
If you have any questions just ask .

I'll consider the wash idea for a different unit. Maybe the Fiends of Slaanesh ? I'm already partially done the daemonettes - so I can work with what i have but I don't want to begin from scratch The idea is good though and ive seen some really well done slaaneshy daemons in the gallery using this technique.
Will do

So here's a question: Will wash work with black primer? I'm undecided on the paint scheme for my Skulltaker - or would I be better off with solid layers?

no it really will not work over black primer , but it can blend you highlights together . exp. you paint a cape scab red , than highlight with blood red , a red wash would bring the two colors together better .

This is true, as said before it is a good rule of thumb for troops to give the colour your highlighting a wash of that colour just to blend the two highlights, for special or HQ models try to highlight and shade without a wash but if they are still looking very obvious then use washes to blend again ^_^

Hey, I just stumbled across the link to your evil chaos blog in Metallifan's Imperial Guard blog. I really like what you've done so far - all of the daemons I've run across in local armies have been pretty cookie-cutter, and yours are substantially different. Keep up the good work!

Shane wrote:Hey, I just stumbled across the link to your evil chaos blog in Metallifan's Imperial Guard blog. I really like what you've done so far - all of the daemons I've run across in local armies have been pretty cookie-cutter, and yours are substantially different. Keep up the good work!

Thank you. It's nice to hear good stuff sometimes. Do you have any pictures posted on your army? I've found painting daemons is quite an experience in itself - blending bright colors is way different than the guardsmen which are more subtle and usually gritty in comparison. If you have any suggestions painting wise it's appreciated

UPDATE: I'm now experimenting with the armor on my Skulltaker. It's a layer of Boltgun Metal, washed twice with Dark Angels Green, and finished with a wash called Thakka Green. Hope it turns out.

I've got nothing, painting-wise. I'll work on getting some pics of my guardsmen up once they're looking a little better, but I recently hit a dead end with them as I discovered that the paint scheme I was going to use just didn't look right. It has now been revised, and hopefully the new one will work out a bit better.

As for advice, my own painting level is somewhere between novice and disaster-waiting-to-happen. I hadn't painted anything in nearly ten years, so on top of never having been good to begin with I'm also rusty. For now, I'm happy when I can conceal my brushstrokes.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the Skulltaker, for a couple of reasons. One, it looks like you're trying some new techniques that I may like to give a shot in the future. Two, I have no idea what a Skulltaker is. Can't wait for some pics!

Well it's nice to know there's other beginners out there too - the best thing you can do is just start painting. That's what I find. Although having thought out a color scheme before hand usually helps

I'll post pics as soon as I have something concerete to show, right now its just a red cape, and partial armor done - I had to quit before I was too frustrated.

http://www.diver.pt/loja/images/SKULLTAKER.jpg this is a skulltaker - basically horns and skulls, pretty evil daemony thing. Mine will have a black body instead though - like my bloodletters.

(there may have been alcohol involved. or I really wasn't paying attention.)

See, this is why i keep away from models while drinking
that, and blades + drink = injuries 99% of the time

but its good to see another daemons blog on the go, and even better to see leters that arent red

Also, the nettes are great, cant stand the new plastic ones (sorry if anyone like sthem, but they are gak)


I may have to start up a small daemons army, smiply for converting and the odd model for painting
That is if i can be bothered to sculpt another model (or finish the ones in progress lol)

Nice. I love the bloodletters.

@ JD
Drinking makes modeling way more fun - just less productive. And I'm lucky I guess I've yet to injure myself... knock on wood.

Do you have a daemons army? Still looking for ideas.

I disgree... I prefer the plastic, but I agree the old ones look far more appealing.

I'd like to try some conversion - but good luck on your projects, you sound like you have several to finish already

@ Astronomicon Thanks for complimenting the bloodletters.

For some reason I find metal models easier to paint... I think it's the detail so I know what to paint instead of the plastic models when some detail is obscured and joints mould together and I don't know when to stop painting the trim.... Me loves Wryd stuff ^_^

The bloodletters look great,but IMHO the daemonettes look so much differant in those colors.Its quite refreshing to see

UPDATE: I got some chaos sphess marines. They're not even assembled yet - but does anyone have any color scheme ideas or knows where I can find an interactive painter online?

I was thinking maybe all-over black with ice blue armour trimmed with pink. and pink helmuts. I didn't want to go overkill with pink but I think if not used excessively it would look ok.

Hmmm, I can't think of one, try googling it but pink is good, what legion are they going to be? If you want pink/slaaneshy then Emperors children are a good idea, lots of bright colours and room to much around with really bright colour schemes, and there is LOTS and LOTS of pink! I have a nearly all pink Lucious!

Great Unclean One wrote: and there is LOTS and LOTS of pink! I have a nearly all pink Lucious!

There is such a thing as TOO much pink Can I see pics of Lucious?

I will get some pictures now, I need to take some anyhow, they should be up in a few minutes....




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Here's pictures of him, he's a mixture of purple, pink and blue.... not very well painted, now I have found that nail polish remover is also a paint stripper I might re-paint him a bit better ^_^

If your going for a Slaanesh themed CSM section then Lucious is a really good character to go with for a commander/named character!

I like this paint scheme, it's very original. I also like how you combined purple and blue and orange and it doesn't look candy coated. I was concerned that paler shades would appear too bright or pastel-y and childish. Thanks for the inspiration, did you wash over the purple or is that effect due to aging and wear?

Also I appreciate the tip, I had no idea nail-polish remover was also a paint stripper

No problem, I just stripped my friends whole calgar and he had LOTS of paint on it... it's now beautiful silver for me to paint it =3 Also, the purple is a wash, the white showing underneath is the basecoat of white I washed on, I left it there for highlighting ^_^

Chaos marine painter for your color combo pleasure http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/csmp.php

The only thing wrong with that pic is that it has Lucius the Eternal in it

Naw, kidding. He looks pretty clutch I definately like the blue souls.


And I still think you should do Emperor's Children! Or some offshoot... the E.C. scheme with Ice Blue instead of Pink would also look wicked.

EDIT: How do you get the CSM Painter to work in a post?

@ JD
Drinking makes modeling way more fun - just less productive. And I'm lucky I guess I've yet to injure myself... knock on wood.

Do you have a daemons army? Still looking for ideas.

I disgree... I prefer the plastic, but I agree the old ones look far more appealing.

I'd like to try some conversion - but good luck on your projects, you sound like you have several to finish already

Painting while drinking works to some extent, after a while though i notice im painting more of my hand and table than the model
Converting while drinking is a big no for me, generally slip with blades which result in the end of that for the night

Just started off a daemons army as such, still converting most things though, just wanted to get a good base to the army 1st.

The plastic ones are better to paint and convert, but just look too plain and boring.

Got a few projects going on, but usually i wander off and leave them for something else lol, so ive got loads of unfinished things, like my Khorne prince ive converted, but its needed re-painting for years now:



in need of a serious re-paint lol, that was the result of drinking and painting for me

The only thing wrong with that pic is that it has Lucius the Eternal in it

Sorry about that I always spell his name wrong.... I'm probably going to strip him as soon as I get some nail polish remover and will re-paint him, I'll put some pics up of the finished model =3

Oh yea, and how do you get the quote things to say who it's quoted from?

No way! That Bloodthirster looks mean-weathered. Leave it! maybe some touchups, but he looks grimey and evil!

I'm doing Emperor's Children-esque theme. And there will be pink! Only in trace amounts so stop yer whining. But Ice Blue/Black is definately my preferred scheme.
EDIT: Also Lucius just proved that pink (purple - just any pastel shade for arguments sake) is awesome



I really like the Bloodthirster as is, really natural and evil looking. Do you have pics of your more current daemons?

I'll toss something out there that I think a lot of people ignore, especially with demons and many fantasy armies.

As you start adding units, keep in mind how you are going to tie the army together visually. As an example, you have your black bloodletters with bright swords, and beside them, very busy (colour-wise) daemonettes, with some pastel.

For example: let's say you took shiny black to be your 'base colour'. You would make an effort to make sure each unit had that built into the scheme somehow. The daemonettes could be given black hair, let's say. Or, go with the bright green on the tongues and make the same green as the clothes on the daemonettes.

This same effect can be achieved through interesting basing also, it is just an observation I have when I look at the unbased models - they look great, but don't look like they are part of a team.

I still haven't figured out how to directly link an image from the CSM painter, but here's the URL, assuming it works.

http://bolterandchainsword.com/csms.php?bpe=919191&bpj=919191&bp=1C1C1C&bpc=1C1C1C&bpn=E69729&hdt=EE83F7&hrn=F7D594&hdm=1C1C1C&hdl=1C1C1C&ey=41EB2A&er=FFFFFF&pi=707070&nk=1C1C1C&ch=1C1C1C&abs=1C1C1C&bt=7DE3FA&btd=E69729&cod=1C1C1C&ull=1C1C1C&lll=1C1C1C&lft=1C1C1C&url=1C1C1C&lrl=1C1C1C&rft=1C1C1C&slt=EE83F7&sli=7DE3FA&srt=EE83F7&sri=7DE3FA&ula=1C1C1C&lel=7DE3FA&lla=1C1C1C&lh=7DE3FA&ura=1C1C1C&rel=7DE3FA&rla=1C1C1C&rh=7DE3FA&ri=F5C447&tr=EE83F7&bg=4A086E&rb=707070&gr=707070&
Just in case it doesn't:

Pink trim
Ice blue shoulders, hands, elbow guards, and belt.
Black Armour plates, Helmet
Gold rivets, Backpack nodes, Belt Star
Bleached Bone horns
Scorpion Green eyes
Boltgun Metal exhausts, extensions.

That does look rather cool! I also think that using a few colours as an army definer and making bases that are unique and run through the entire army make them look as one, for instance you could base them ass on snow bases, lava bases or just sand ^_^

I like it

Also I was going to make all their bases similar. I wasn't really sure how to tie them together though - I was going to go with an obsidian idea and black sand.

He really does need a new coat of paint lol, the current one is scruffy and the highlighting is pretty bad
also, need to change his klaw arm for a new arm, not sure what ill use yet.
Size wise he is a little shorter than a real thirster, but i just wanted to make one myself rather than use the plain one they sell

Image wise for anything else daemon:

unit of horrors (still in convertion stage, 1 painted)




Random bigass daemon im working on, but still very rough and needs tons of GS to build it up alot.



Current GUO im sculpting:





1st ever sculpt i did, nurgle daemon prince:




Thats about it so far, mainly just alot of custom models im working on lol

WOW! You, sir, are very good with Greenstuff!

I like how this went from her thread to tons of Heretical Daemon Awesomeness

The GUO is my 2nd sculpt lol, and after running out of GS too many times ive taken a break
Might have to get him finished up at some point though.

Nothing wrong with heretics
i play BA aswell lol, once again, i have an army of them, but still in the "need an undercoat" phase

I am very impressed with the sculpting/conversions. freakin' sweet

And I don't mind sharing this thread with a fellow heretic, it's giving me loads of ideas for my daemons - and im still in awe.

EDIT: Also it's nice people are not only viewing my blog but responding to it and it also incites me to actually do more p & m so I can post pics.

Heh, if you ever need ideas im usually wandering about dakka, usually when im at work

Might actually order some GS this week and get the GUO finished, allthough im still not sure how big his weapon will be (giant 2 handed plague mace with a chain)

binky wrote:EDIT: Also it's nice people are not only viewing my blog but responding to it and it also incites me to actually do more p & m so I can post pics.

Yea! What the hell! My girlfriend has fewer shots in her blog, and yet gets more responses per image than I do? That's it! I officially have a jealousy issue, though I won't admit to it! ...Damn!

didnt you know? heretics get more love and attention than loyalists
quick army change and you will be fine

Nice try, heretic! I won't be swayed that easily!

We have better models and more convertion options, plus, we dont worship no dead man on a golden toilet

JD21290 wrote:We have better models and more convertion options, plus, we dont worship no dead man on a golden toilet

Nonsense! We have guns! And we love Skulls with wings and Mutant Eagles with 2 heads! And Rivets! And I'll have you know, that toilet also wipes his arse when he's done, fluffs his giant butt-pillow, massages his back, AND makes him toast without burning it.

I can't think of any Daemon I'd want doing any of that for me. All for obvious reasons

metallifan wrote:

JD21290 wrote:We have better models and more convertion options, plus, we dont worship no dead man on a golden toilet

Nonsense! We have guns! And we love Skulls with wings and Mutant Eagles with 2 heads! And Rivets! And I'll have you know, that toilet also wipes his arse when he's done, fluffs his giant butt-pillow, massages his back, AND makes him toast without burning it.

I can't think of any Daemon I'd want doing any of that for me. All for obvious reasons

JD you'd better have a witty reply, I have nothing to say to this. It can be taken to sooo many bad places... And while i'm really enjoying your little squabble - little off topic no?


You're jealous of the attention my blog is getting Ego growing, cannot be contained by this forum


So I'll finish the argument - Daemons kick loyalist arse, end of story. Their ruling cannot be further expressed in words. Go back to worshipping your rotting corpse, but he's not the winning team

I like the swords on the letters. Also, needs more Plaguebearers!! Khorne is angry, but Papa Nurgle is loving and welcoming. I'm sure he wouldn't mind pink, as long as it's very muddled

Wrong woman! I'll finish it!

Daemons need Humans (and the other races, to a lesser extent) or they couldn't exist. Plus, Daemons lack something that the Imperium has: Captain Indrick Boreale's unforgettable speech:

"BHATTEL BRUTHARS!

SPEHSS MEHREENS! TODEH THEH ENEHMEH IS AT OWW-ERR DOORSTEP! WHE KNOW OWW-ER DUTEH AHND WHE WHILL DHOO EHT!

WHE FIET FOH OWW-ER HHONER AHS BLUHD RHEVENS, AHS SPEHSS MEHREENS, AHND WHE FIET IN THE NEHME OF THEH EMPRAH!

IF WHE DIE THIS DEH, WHE DIE IN GLOAREH! WHE DIE HEROEHS DEATHS - BHUT WHE SHALL NAWT DIE - NOAH! IT IS THE ENEMEH WHO WHILL TAESTE DEATH AHND DEFEAT!

AS YEW KNOW, MOST OF OWER BHATTEL BRUTHARS ARE STEHSHUNED IN SPEHSS, PREHPAREHD TO DHEEP STRIEK! OWW-ER PEHRIMETER HAS BEEN PREHPAREHD IN THEH EVENT THAT OWW-ER ENEHMEHS SHOULD BE SO BOLD AHND FEHWLISH! WHE HAVE PLEHCED NUMEROUS BHEACONS, ALLOWING FOR MHULTIPLE, SIMMULN-TEHNEOUS, AHND DHEVEHSTEHTING DEHFENSIVE DHEEP STRIEKS!

THEH CODEKS ASTARTEHS NEHMES THIS MANEWVAH STEEL REHN. WHE WILL DESCEND UPON THEH FOE, WHE WILL OVAHWHELM THEHM, WHE WILL LHEAVE NHUN ALIVE! MEENWHILE, OWW-ER GROUND FORSES WHILL ENSURE THEH FHULL DEFENSE OF OWW-ER HEADKWARTERS!

WHE ARE THEH SPEHSS MEHREENS!

WHE ARE THEH EMPRAH'S FUREH!"

*Win*

Vintagemustangs wrote:I like the swords on the letters. Also, needs more Plaguebearers!! Khorne is angry, but Papa Nurgle is loving and welcoming. I'm sure he wouldn't mind pink, as long as it's very muddled

Despite their loving family oriented nature - I cannot bring myself to like the Nurgle... Just don't appeal to me - but are they a powerful unit? that's what I heard.

Plagues are a pain in the arse to kill
They usually refuse to die throughout a whole game and just sit on objectives like over-protective pitbulls

A single unit of 10 or so should last all game and help to no end, also, guard struggle to kill them

On a nurgle note: nurglings kick arse too!
they are hard to kill, easy to swarm someone with and cheap on points.
they also look great and can be sculpted in a few mins per nurgling

Nurgle daemon princes: As a normal prince, but harder to kill.
Give him breath of chaos and ironhide and expect him to last a whole game while crushing most heavy units (terminators and the likes)

GUO's are even harder to kill due to higher toughness, more wounds and a better save.
they are also more destructive but slower.

Ku'gath is a special GUO who is even harder to kill lol, and is able to destroy small units through shooting each turn.

So yea, nurgle aint all bad, just a bit more grim-dark than most people like

nice start to your Daemon army , on the note of Nurgle.

What makes Plague Bearers a great unit to take is their resilence, which makes them great for the 1st wave.and also for holding objectives.

I run a pure Nurgle Daemon list & my PB squads have icons.

They drop down w/ icons in hand , hunker down in cover if possible.

And help guide down the 2nd wave, thus limited the deep strike mishaps !

I'll have to test out this theory - Nurgle sound pretty awesome to play- just not too pretty to look at

I found a flaw in my army today :( ... While playing I discovered Daemonettes and Bloodletters are quite an unbalanced combo - perhaps my space marines will help. They are good in close combat but are picked off rather easily by long range guns.

Suggestions for an elite and shooty unit? Possibly need a fast unit too.

UPDATE: Chaos marines are assembled - trial paint scheme pics wil be posted soon.

I'm assuming you want these fast units as demons? Maybe use horrors, from what I recall I think they are quite fast, demonettes are also really fast I think O_o

Great Unclean One wrote:I'm assuming you want these fast units as demons? Maybe use horrors, from what I recall I think they are quite fast, demonettes are also really fast I think O_o

Well within the realm of Chaos. Didn't think of Horrors - I had flesh hounds in mind... but fast/strong would be a good unit.

love the spawn bloodletters! keep up the excellent work

If your going for fast:

Screamers - fast anti-tank, small units of 3 work well.

Flesh hounds - not soo good, but nice models, i would actually make my own using the new dark elves cold ones

furies - average to say the least, but still not that bad.
Really really bad models though, i would convert winged letters into furies

Seekers - great models and a great unit, shame you cant buy them anymore, you will have to either make custom ones, or get lucky and find them on ebay (if they arent stupidly high priced)



Just an idea, but do you like zombies?
If you dont like the plaguebearers then you could simply make some zombies with swords instead
1 box of cadain shock troopers and a box of VC zobies and you have 40 zombies that look futuristic enough to use as plagues

on a similar note, i would be tempted to use skaven plague monks as nurglings, 3-4 per base

Those all sound like good ideas

What about fiends of slaanesh or bloodcrushers?

If I ever become ambitious I want to start a conversion project - how would you go about that with the seekers?

Interesting idea - can I really use zombies in place of nurgle?

Crushers - OK, they are expensive, but look good.
Ive seen alot of people use the empire knight horses with letters riding them as stand in models.
To be honest, im not too sure if there is a great substitute model, they are pretty much 1 of a kind.
If you want them cheap then look out for cheap juggernauts on ebay, then add a plastic letter to it lol.

For seekers ive allways been tempted to use the new dark elves cold ones.
They are the right size and shape, the DE design on the saddle, banners and the reigns seem to tie in well.
so mix in the plastic cold one box with daemonettes and you have a fairly cheap substitute that you can make at will, rather than having to hunt them down (they usually sell for around £10 - £12 each!)

I'll definately look into the seekers... right now I have too many projects to finish... and I need to round out my army for gameplay as well so that'll take some figuring but thanks for the unit suggestions

No probs
Just started building up and painting what i got daemons wise
Not much, but it should keep me busy until i order a few more box's of ghouls (for horrors)

It's been a while but I've been on hiatus. Kay people, I know I haven't accomplished much recently, I blame school taking up all of my free time on top of drinking and having a life - but I'd really appreciate comments on my daemon pictures/blog hopefully tomorrow (?) or by this weekend (since it's a long one) I'll have some new stuff posted. I have almost 2000 views to only 78 comments... I really do love feedback!

Also as a side note if anyone is looking for painting ideas for Imperial Guardsmen (I know, I know: burn corpse worshippers ) check out this link: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/250694.page it's INTENSELY pic heavy, but I should advertise as it has more of my daemon pics as well on page 2.

@ JD if you have any of your new daemons painted up I'd be interested to see them

Hola
So, wheres the updates binx?
Ive been kinda busy, you know, since modern warfare 2 came out lol, between that and work (and sleeping now and then) ive not got much done.

So far ive got a converted daemon prince up and ready for paint, started painting up 4 more horrors, got my 3 daemon sculpts moving on, aswell as a new herald sculpt im working on.
Ill get some pics up soon then

Also started drawing up some concept sketches for a soulgrinder on 2 legs, with a less mechanical look lol.


also, any ideas on what your getting next?

@ Binky

See my longtime goal atleast with my armies is to have one chaos army *Check* one loyalist army *Sorta check* and a Xenos army... maybe Dark Eldar? or maybe Tyranids.

So when a fluff war happens I can just go "I'm not a heretic i'm everything! ha!" then field all of them in apoc. :3

I do like the black spawn style bloodletters btw.

@JD
Updates are going to be extremely slow... I'll post pics once I see yours, so there But im still frustrated by my lack of accomplishing anything

I think you'll love my bubblegum marines.

Videogames before warhammer - tsk tsk, lol. Is modern warfare 2 any good? But I can relate on the being sidetracked by life bit. Only I have school and not work

No, I'm not sure what I'm getting next - like I mentioned maybe an elite daemon unit or bloodcrushers (speed). Any suggestions for a Chaos Marine unit? I haven't picked up that codex yet.

I'm very undecided ...

@ Shadowbrand that's a good idea - now you have an army for every type of game and thanks

heh, ill get pics up tomorrow then
need to get the horrors done a little more 1st.
Currently basecoated them and done 4 of the 12 drybrushes for thier skin.

I got a bright pink marine ive done

Of course!
MW2 kicks ass big time, too addictive though for my own good.
Not only that, but my integra is on its last legs, so i need to buy a new car :(

If you want speed i'd go for fiends.
Crushers are slow, but hard hitting, fiends are stupidly quick, tons of attacks and a pain to catch.
Or, if you want fast anti-tank then screamers aint too bad

Kinda like me then
Decided to start a skaven army thismorning, which so far has changed to world eaters, and now nids lol, just cant keep 1 army going at once.

Oh for your Chaos Marine unit I would suggest getting Noise Marines if your going for bright and bubblegum, they have to be bright and colourful or else they can't see each other on the battlefield! They've also got some pretty nice special noise weapons and if you get the HQ Lucius the Eternal and put him with them then the squad work work quite nicely!

I looked at the model design - the Noise Marines are wicked! But actually I was going for a completely different colour scheme on my next unit of marines.

What I was originally planning to do was to base the color schemes off of the different Gods - so my next batch would be Khorne themed, the next Tzeench, and the final Nurgle. And I was going to rotate the color scheme that way. I realize it may get a tad unweildly but it keeps my options open as to whatever suits my fancy at the moment.

Keeping that in mind - my completed army is going to be quite the eyesore I'd imagine

Ooh... sounds good and blinding!

gimme a min and ill take some pics of what i got so far now
havent really done alot though lol


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Only really done anything with the Tzeentch side of my army so far
and its mostly convertion or sculpting work, with a tiny bit of painting added in.


Horror group shot (1 finished, 4 just started, 5 basic)




Random herald of nurgle ive just started sculpting, needs tons of work, but ill get there at some point i guess.




The daemon prince ive finished converting, just needs paint now and hes done, shame since he was actually fun to build for once lol.

@ JD I like the daemon prince - what did you use for his head?

The horrors seem good thus far, you use alot of purple. It works though.

Do you also play your army or are you simply a painting/sculpting entusiast who has models that look pretty?

Fiends are great-fast, and have enough rending attacks that they can do anti-tank well enough.

For daemon elites choices:
3 Flamers
3 Flamers
6 Fiends, Unholy Might

Are the best 400 points you'll ever spend.

The prince was based on the TK ushabti model lol.

I play my armies quite a bit, but i wont be playing daemons till i have a bigger army, ill stick with my BA till then

That is a damn sweet demon prince! I'll post some pics of Lucius once I've painted him again, I've stripped the paint but he needs spraying, basing and painting!

Good job with what you have done. I know a guy at my FLGS how plays deamons and he uses a lot of bright colors for his army. Granted they are more blues, greens and reds than pink. Purple is a great color to work with, it is one of primary colors in my Tau army. Can't wait to see what else you make.

Could I see pics of this Tau army? and thanks

I'm much needing to get back to working on my painting - it's been slow.

Binky,

The following link will have pictures of my Tau army. The way it goes is that Shadow Grey, Space Wolf Grey and Liche Purple are the Primary colors. Then each FOC slot has a individual color. HQ is golden yellow, Elites is Scorpion Green (which makes my suits look like Buzz Lightyear, which was total accident), Troops are Blazing Orange, Fast Attack is Enchanted Blue, and Heavy Support is Scab Red.
In the future there is hope for bright and cheery colors.

Hopefully this will be of use to you and good luck with school and your army.

das link
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-11614-5081_4th%20Hunter%20Cadre%20Of%20Elsy%27eir.html

That sounds like an interesting color combo - is it more muted or bright?

Question for you, did you see all of my post? Because I just looked at it and all I got was half of the first sentence. I edited it just now and I am seeing all of it. But to answer your question I used babal black wash, so it was a muted but still a bright look to them.

Nope - I only got the first half of it. But it's fixed. And your pics look good.

EDIT: I finally got some shots of my CSM to show!

Here they are in all their cotton-candy, Slaaneshi, blinding glory! lol

Those pics were definitely worth the wait. I love your Chaos Marine color scheme - I wasn't sure about it when I saw it on the painter, but seeing it on models it just might be my favorite Chaos Marine scheme I've seen. Hope school calms down, so we can get more pretty pictures!

Those are some awesome pink bubblegum marines! The paintjob isn't overpowering and it works really well! Are you highlighting and shading them? If you are try highlighting and then giving the area a wash in it's colour to make shading, works really well for pink!

I like these. The colours go really well, and as said already aren't overpowering like some Slaaneshi models.

Glad you like the army, and very nice work on yours, they look very clean and have a good balance. They scream Slaaneshi.

And to quote P4NC4K3

P4NC4K3 wrote:In the Grim Darkness of the... Wait! Those are not dark! I can feel the universe... Collapsing!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!


Way to go, genius

Good work, i think these are your best models yet, you've definitely progressed. Do you have the whole squad done? If so show them, they look pretty cool.

Slappy

Thanks for all the positive comments @ GUO I might try the highlighting tip, we'll see. And there's more on the way, cause no the whole squad is nowhere near done - just these two and my PowerFist guy. Updates this weekend for sure

I'm so impressed with how the paint scheme worked out too, and I can't take credit for it - so thank Metallifan - cause it was his awesome idea.

*Edit to above post: Burn metallifan, he is a traitor

OT: Loving the marine, nice solid scheme and a steady hand, just keep up painting and dont get lazy like me
Still havent done any updates since the last one i posted here XD
May actually start on the prince tonight though, guess i do need to start somewhere.

also been thinking of changing my theme to Tzeentch, but an egyption undead theme.
So flaming skellies as horrors and so on.

JD21290 wrote:*Edit to above post: Burn metallifan, he is a traitor

But traitors can be swayed... 'specially by bright colors XD

Spoken too soon... I think that's my prob is I DO get very lazy. And then my army is unfinished and it bothers me... kinda like my Skulltaker whose been on the backburner for awhile - but he does have armor now... a chest plate that is very Greecian-inspired but he still needs to be painted

Egyptian undead...interesting...kinda like the Mummy?

lol, how does the dark side have bright colours?

Meh, at one point i's speedpaint a 2,000 point army over a weekend, now im lucky if i paint a single model over a week XD.
I seem to be able to paint character models for longer before i get bored and leave it to gather dust.

Nah, going for a more mythical look to them, so using concepts like anubis, horus (not the 40k one ) and other gods in the design of the army.
May have to draw up a few sketches 1st though to make sure ill like the outcome.

What? The pretty marines aren't evil? I can't answer that logically - thats why the universe collapsed when the grimdark future had color, and is no longer grimdark.

In a weekend? That's fast - so that was when in your younger glory days

Sounds cool - can't wait to see pics.

Bright colours just dont seem evil enough
Unless it works like a thunder flash and blind people

Nah, that was before i got my xbox360 and before i started getting into airsoft
Now a days i dont have the patients lol, ill start a model, then wander off to talk on the 360 or go out for a drink

Managed to basecoat it, then got bored lol, ill get the ink washes done tomorrow as base colours and possibly some drybrushing

Actually started painting the prince now
got the ink layers down and done the 1st drybrush

Tomorrow i think ill get it to about 90% and just needing fine detail lol, if i dont get hooked on MW2

I'm liking the bright Chaos Marines myself, you can get away with that kind of thing with Emperor's Children. Nice clean painting too. Keep it up!

Sounds good ^_^ Can't wait to see them! Also, binky, where did you get your name from? Is it Death's horse? It's just I'm reading Mort by Terry Pratchett and death has a horse called binky, just wondering if that's where you got the name from or it's just a coincidence ^_^

Great Unclean One wrote:Sounds good ^_^ Can't wait to see them! Also, binky, where did you get your name from? Is it Death's horse? It's just I'm reading Mort by Terry Pratchett and death has a horse called binky, just wondering if that's where you got the name from or it's just a coincidence ^_^

More pics this weekend - I actually got started on my skulltaker and he's almost done, just a few touch-ups and his back portion needs to be painted. He has green armour and a brilliant red cape, and boltgun metal horns with a black wash. However he is still far too bright for my liking - I believe he should be grittier - how would I achieve that over metal armour/red wash cape?

You're the second dude to mention the horse! Where can I find this book? I must read it I've heard he's a good author, but the name thing is entirely coincidental - it's just a nickname.

Looking smooth and good all around binky. I have definately enjoyed seeing improvement in the painting skills through this thread. One small note that cold help make the black show nicely on your models. A small line highlight on just th eangeld corners would help a lot try it. Don't do it around the whole thing but just where the model angles. Look forward to seeing more work good stuff.

Thanks guys!

@Empchild Highlight with what color? White is too drastic, maybe codex grey? But I think I get what you mean, on the scales and joints and muscle is where I need to hi-lite.

Again tho, how do I weather armour and cape fabric?

I really like what you have done, and I think that the advice thatt he others have given will only add to the awesomeness.
For playing purposes I would recommend (as well as a Soulgrinder or two) a unit of Horrors or Flamers of Tzeench as Daemons are a bit weak on shooting.
Also I'd like to see what you come up with for a colour scheme.
Happy modelling

For highlighting, you can mix a little white into the main paint colour and use that...

Steve78 wrote:I really like what you have done, and I think that the advice thatt he others have given will only add to the awesomeness.
For playing purposes I would recommend (as well as a Soulgrinder or two) a unit of Horrors or Flamers of Tzeench as Daemons are a bit weak on shooting.
Also I'd like to see what you come up with for a colour scheme.
Happy modelling

For highlighting, you can mix a little white into the main paint colour and use that...

For my army I'm definately getting a Soulgrinder and perhaps some Flamers. I'm not gonna be purchasing anything for awhile 'til I get what I got already painted - mostly I'm waiting to see what the jolly fat guy has for me at Christmas.

I do have a rough list (I might even post in the army section) of what I want for a completed Daemon army.
Here it is for your viewing/criticism: (please be nice)

- 1 Skulltaker
- 10 Daemonettes
- 10 Bloodletters
- Keeper of Secrets
- Daemon Prince
- 2 Soul Grinders
- Flamers of Tzeentch
- Fiends of Slaanesh
- Seekers
- Screamers of Tzeentch
- Bloodcrushers

mixing paints now that's a novel idea... can't believe I didn't think of that... thanks (edited for spelling mistakes)

You there! Woman! I took some pictures of your angry pointing Kayoos Spehss Mehreen with the Powerfisting Proctology Degree. Check your email soon

Here's the latest CSM, in his Power Fisting glory.









@ Metallifan, Happy now

No. I want my face to stop hurting so I can eat real food again. Then I'll be happy

But this helps.

binky wrote:

Great Unclean One wrote:Sounds good ^_^ Can't wait to see them! Also, binky, where did you get your name from? Is it Death's horse? It's just I'm reading Mort by Terry Pratchett and death has a horse called binky, just wondering if that's where you got the name from or it's just a coincidence ^_^

You're the second dude to mention the horse! Where can I find this book? I must read it I've heard he's a good author, but the name thing is entirely coincidental - it's just a nickname.

Think I was the first dude to mention the horse. Mort is one of Pratchett's earlier and therefore better books (the first 10-15 Discworld Novels are comic genius). It was also the first one I read and well worth picking up. It's about a boy called Mort who gets taken on as Death's apprentice. Unfortuantely Mort's romantic longings for a soon to be assassinated princess clash with his new responsbilities. Much hilarity ensues!

A suggestion for dimming the brightness on the models, try using a wash to get a grittier look for the metal armor and cape. I know delvin mud is very popular, and babal black is another good one. Also nice job on the sergeant.

That's pretty good Binky. I quite like the colours you've used. Your technique seems to have gotten better again. My only beef is the mold lines you can see. Clear them up and its all gravy...and base them.

I'll leave the drilling the barrels bit because the Plasma Pistol looks like it has been.

What have you got next to paint, your skulltaker?


Slappy

guardpiper wrote:A suggestion for dimming the brightness on the models, try using a wash to get a grittier look for the metal armor and cape. I know delvin mud is very popular, and babal black is another good one. Also nice job on the sergeant.

I'll try it out

And I'm not sure how to do the basing I want. Any suggestions on doing rock formations and how I could achieve the look of obsidian? Pics are always appreciated!

Binky,

Link for suggestions for painting obsidian.

http://www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2497

Also, try the lizardmen article archive. I think there may still be an article about painting lizardmen the includes obsidian.

binky wrote:

guardpiper wrote:A suggestion for dimming the brightness on the models, try using a wash to get a grittier look for the metal armor and cape. I know delvin mud is very popular, and babal black is another good one. Also nice job on the sergeant.

I'll try it out

And I'm not sure how to do the basing I want. Any suggestions on doing rock formations and how I could achieve the look of obsidian? Pics are always appreciated!

Just in case you go looking for "babal" black its correct name is Badab black.

Ive been admiring this army for a while and would like to congratulate you on its quality for a relative beginner its very good indeed

The link helped, now I got a more concrete idea. Can't wait 'til Saturday to try it out...

was thinking of sculpting rock with greenstuff, painting it with some black nail polish over a black basecoat. Then brushing black sand over the remainder of the base. Hope it works!

Also keep up the comments

I'm still really loving your Chaos Marines, binky! Can't wait to see how your basing turns out - if it works well for you, I may blatantly rip it off for my Imperial Guard.

I'm not found of the color combo but it's painted nicely (and this is always a BIG plus).

And you just have to base or I won't consider them as true followers of slaanesh (please no backyard grass base as it looks horrible even on blood bowl minis)

They nice and clean. For a slight improvement and highlights.
Pink- Mix 2 parts white and one part pink, put on the edges
Same with blue.

For your bases you would need to use a color that makes the Blue, Pink and black stand out. Try a dark green base.

There won't be any backyard grass, lol.

But are there any suggestions for my CSM bases - I wanted to do them differently and more like Earth instead of just rock. Never done basing before so tips are appreciated

binky wrote:There won't be any backyard grass, lol.

But are there any suggestions for my CSM bases - I wanted to do them differently and more like Earth instead of just rock. Never done basing before so tips are appreciated

By earth do you mean soil or a dried mud type thing?

If you want soil try some of gale force nine's basing materials, im pretty sure there is one that looks like soil, or you could use actual soil from your garden and just slather it in PvA/elmers/wood glue (coat base in straight glue, soil then when dry coat in a 1:1 glue water mix to seal).

If you want sandy earth then simply switch the soil for either very fine sand or a sand/soil mix .

Cracked dried mud i cant help you with other than suggesting using brownstuff if possible but otherwise plain old GS and looking around for some tutorials on scultping cracked mud.

Or alternately you could try standard mud basing which thanks to google i found a tutorial for,

For cracked mud you can just use craquelure to create the split ground look, and then overpaint.

I meant everything, cracked mud, soil, sand, water, grass -and then vary it from there - earth is filled with possibilities. But I've been warned not to be too ambiguous on the theme and keep it uniform. Any good pics for bases?

Hello, um as you can see I'm on a bit of a hiatus again. Been working on basing - my skulltaker, little bits here and there but nothing worth noting. Sadly no pics either. I'm in desperate need of some inspiration/motivation.
Help!

I also blame the kitty for distracting me. Too cute.

When you get some school work done, instead of watching tv or using the computer, paint some stuff. It worked for me a couple of times, when I was in school.

Here's some pics of what I've been working on lately.

As you can see, my Skulltaker is in progress but this is the color scheme thus far - I plan to wash it in Badab black to make it less bright.



Many peeps have mentioned I need to base my miniatures, so this is what the completed bloodletter base looks like - sorry for the yellow tone of the pic, I couldn't fix it.

There's the one I'd been waiting for!

I had never seen a Skulltaker until you mentioned them; if your Bloodletters are any indication I think I'll love your Skulltaker. Much different from the 'standard' Khornate daemons, at least in my neck of the woods. Can't wait to see the finished product.

Nice base and the skulltaker does look a lot like a spawn character.

Diggin the skull taker. The greens are a nice touch.

Hello, I AM BACK. And sadly in my absence have built up a frighteningly major backlog of stuff to do. So with the fire under my arse now I must finish up my CSM, and I gots a whole new project! My super awesome boyfriend got me a Daemon Prince for my early Christmas gift, now I'm really excited to start painting again.

HOWEVER - I do need some paint scheme ideas, and the only thing is it's Slaanesh - and I have to incorporate Ice Blue/Tentacle pink into the scheme to keep it matching my marines. I would appreciate any ideas and pics .

Thanks alot

Let metalli know hes a cheap bastard
Should have been atleast a 500 point upgrade for the army (or a FW prince)

Need some updates aswell
Need someone elses painting to get me painting again, since ive pretty much stopped now till new nids arrive.

Haha. I don't think so. I like what he got me, even though I did get him some FW models

I know what you mean, I have been on the longest break - it's good to be back - I'll post pics as well when I get stuff done. And I'm also excited the nids are gonna be awesome

Love your avatar by the way - very much in the holiday spirit

Hopefully seeing your (soon to be) renewed progress will also inspire me to get painting. My poor guardsmen are just sitting around, not defending humanity. I'm sure that once I see the looming violation that your daemon prince represents though, I'll recognize the need to get those guys fieldable just in case Chaos shows up in my town.

Violation? I guess so, my Daemon Prince will be pretty in pink/blue armor - it's flesh tones are what I'm considering now. I have an idea and if it's worth seeing will be unveiled in a bit - I still have my CSM to plow through first.

Maybe you should try painting other units? Sometimes it helps to get motivated just by breaking up the monotony by introducing something new. I have a very small number of units and I got bored by the repetiveness of it. But you should get painting, and I'm also gonna try and get some more gaming in (which is hard when I only know a handful of players - including metallifan who I can't play against anyway cause he'll just let me win ) But I guess yeah, play in the meantime - I assure you Chaos is alive and well.

Mm... Probably a part of the reason I can't get motivated to paint is that once I do paint, I still have no one to game with. We'll see what I can do about rectifying that, but in the short term that's a problem.

Also, Re: Violation.

I originally had typed "destruction," but realizing that it was a Slaanesh type daemon prince, "violation" just seemed to fit his probable modus operandi better.

It's nice to see bloodletters that AREN'T red. There's a guy at my nearby store that has snow-white looking ones.

Tried to start painting again with a fun model, but even this is sitting on the shelf not even close to finished.
hoping that some nids or daemons will get me back into painting again, kinda just got bored of it for now, cant paint for more than 20 mins a time.

and thanks
Got told i needed an xmas avie lol.

Very cool stuffs

Nice work, your army is looking sweet!

looks good

@ Zack - can I see the pics of your buddies Bloodletters? Now I'm intrigued.

@ JD very impressed with the model, how did you get the glossy look? and yeah maybe you will be bored for a bit - give it time you'll find something to inspire you - or you'll just let your models rot in the closet for a few months

@ et all - thanks for the comments

And any painting scheme ideas of flesh tones for my daemon prince?

For the skin, why not try a reptilian scale type skin? Or go for animal patterns.

guardpiper wrote:For the skin, why not try a reptilian scale type skin? Or go for animal patterns.

Neat But do you have pics? How would a person go about painting scales? I was originally thinking just blending purple to a paler elf flesh/white (kinda like a strung out coke fiend) but that's cool if you had any examples.

If you're looking to go with a sort of pale, washed out, slightly off-color skin you might look at the daemonhost and Solomon Lok models in Molotov's INQ28 thread, here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/240062.page

I believe their flesh is built up with layers and washes over a base coat of very light gray, but I'm not 100% positive. I think he explains a bit of his method in the thread, though. Adding a tiny bit of pink or purple to that tone might suit your purposes perfectly!

Hmm been a while since i posted on this forum, 5 months or more i think, and stumble upon a chaos daemons blog. (I iz a chaos daemon player myself.) The stuff you are painting looks good for someone who painted the first time. And you have the same liking for pink as i do with blue, (Tzeentch) i suggest you make pink bloodletters! i made my bloodletters bright blue. lol. But still diggin the paint on the daemons.

I <3 the cotton candy marines. Shadowbrand would be proud!

Shadowbrand wrote:I <3 the cotton candy marines. Shadowbrand would be proud!

Why is you referring to yourself in the third person? lol.

Because I can.

You know it makes you sound slightly insane? Right on

Eh, didn't I already?

JD very impressed with the model, how did you get the glossy look? and yeah maybe you will be bored for a bit - give it time you'll find something to inspire you - or you'll just let your models rot in the closet for a few months

Thanks binx
the glossy look is just done through flat paints lol, decided to not use any metallic paint.
Didnt come out how i wanted, but fine for now i guess.

Me thinks they will just rot, that is until new nids come out, then i guess ill be back to them (possibly my 20th or so nid army? lol)
Just getting a quick test scheme done on a gaunt i dug out.

And any painting scheme ideas of flesh tones for my daemon prince?

2 Q's hun.

1: What prince model is it?
2: What god will he/she serve?

Might be able to get a nice wall o' pics when i know (got a fair few pics saved on the comp due to looking at daemons for too long lol)


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Edit: I hold you responsible now lol.
Was busy reading and didnt notice that the glue had run off the rav i was putting together.
Somehow managed to stick it to my hand x_x

JD21290 wrote:
1: What prince model is it?

Ohohohoh! I can answer this one! It's the oldschool pewter Daemon Prince with the devil horns and whatnot. She loved the look of it, so I snatched the first and only one on the shelf.

Welcome, JD. 20th nid army? Wow you must've been at this for awhile.

Ohohooh!!! PICK ME!!! Lols, yes babe I love it and thank you but chill Metalli, in your excitement to answer the question you forgot to mention he's serving Slaanesh. And yeah a "he" as I figured from "Prince." Not to make it a sexist issue but GW now has to come out with a Daemon Princess - and she will be all evil and frilly

And haha made you stick yourself together! Actually this sucks and I hate when it happens

Didnt help mate
which one? lol.

You got 3 of the oldschool ones.



Next one is the same era, but has different head and weapons (no claw)

The last one is my fave: (and i actually have 5 of them somewhere lol)

No no no... Not THAT Oldschool

This one:


EDIT: Speaking of oldschool - I learned yesterday that my FLGS has a mint condition 2nd Ed Codex Imperialis THERE ARE SQUATS IN THERE!

Edit: Posted as you posted and missed a bloody ton of stuff lol



Metalli: Hows the guard going mate? You gotta be near the 3k mark by now

Welcome, JD. 20th nid army? Wow you must've been at this for awhile.

Twas my 1st ever army
Also, i keep selling them, then a few months later ill start them again for no reason.
Compulsive buying, i hate it.

Ohohooh!!! PICK ME!!! Lols, yes babe I love it and thank you but chill Metalli, in your excitement to answer the question you forgot to mention he's serving Slaanesh. And yeah a "he" as I figured from "Prince." Not to make it a sexist issue but GW now has to come out with a Daemon Princess - and she will be all evil and frilly

Ok, so your going with slaanesh for this one
So either pure white / light grey tones, or variations of pinks, light blues and purple hues should work well.

Making a daemons princess isnt that hard
There are some good base models in the GW range.

And haha made you stick yourself together! Actually this sucks and I hate when it happens

Wouldnt be the 1st time lol, im using new superglue, and its like water -_-
So, you put it in an arm joint, and it runs through the whole model in a few seconds.
So yea, this glue is gak, but i got no other option lol.
You say that like it wouldnt be the 1st time you managed it too


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Edit: Metalli mate, this aint working lol, just having to update every one of my posts XD

and thats not oldskool mate, its new style
So, going with wings or basic?
i spose some pigtails might make it look more slaanesh like? (joking)
I think ill stick with my earlier post on colour suggestions for it.

Failing that, black armour with extreme purple highlights.
A pretty pure white skin tone with a light pink wash, then white highlights.
So the skin is pure white with a tinge of pink in the recesses.



PS: ignore bad spelling, been drinking today (early xmas drink with mates after work lol)


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EDIT: Speaking of oldschool - I learned yesterday that my FLGS has a mint condition 2nd Ed Codex Imperialis THERE ARE SQUATS IN THERE!

We need to stop these edits mate

Ill scan you on some pics mate, i got one here too XD
Also got the ancient eldar one, and angels of death XD

For the scales I am not sure how to paint them up to be honest. You could look at some snake pictures and get an idea from that maybe. Of course the trick with scales is getting the texture of them. So maybe a little greenstuff? Also you can greenstuff hair/fur and paint that in the animal patterns. I think some zebra stripes would look neat on a deamon prince.

Huge freakin post - to break it down...

I won't be doing a daemon princess for this one, cause I think the only way to do it would be to sculpt boobs on it - and while I'm not worried about the funny looks, I was going to do this for a Soulgrinder project later on...

And yeah I've stuck myself together, the first time modelling for me on my bloodletters and I glued my pointer fingers and thumbs together. But I haven't done much since - Metalli gets over-excited and puts all the models together - which I appreciate, cause the daemon prince looked difficult.

The only problem is the armor has top have elements of black/iceblue/and tentacle pink to match my CSM. But the flesh is what im wondering about, or if I could do the flesh pink and blue/ and the armor whatever color.

Drunk is fine - but I'm having a hard time following your and Metalli's convo, and what are squats? I think they discontinued before my time.

And I thought that the Daemon Prince model I have is being updated fairly soon? So it will be oldskool shortly.






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guardpiper wrote:For the scales I am not sure how to paint them up to be honest. You could look at some snake pictures and get an idea from that maybe. Of course the trick with scales is getting the texture of them. So maybe a little greenstuff? Also you can greenstuff hair/fur and paint that in the animal patterns. I think some zebra stripes would look neat on a deamon prince.

Then the next question would be how to make scales with greenstuff? This is an intriguing idea - but I also am limited by these colors blue/pink/black. Which might clash with animal prints.

Need to try and post this clearly now, rather than a garbled mess

Skin:
Basecoat skull white
Wash with watered down tenticle pink and purple (50/50 mix)
Highlight with skull white, leaving the previous mix only in recesses.
Wash again but with watered down skull white and tenticle pink (50/50 again)
Final fine highlight of skull white.

Armour:
Metal edges: Boltgun metal basecoat
Highlight with mithril silver
Wash with purple (2-3 layers to make it fairly dark)
Highlight again with mithril silver
Actual armour: Black basecoat
highlight with liche purple
Final highlight of tenticle pink

Eyes: Basecoat skull white
Wash with tenticle pink
Wash the recesses with liche purple
Paint the eye skull white, leaving the purple / pink edges to it.

Sword: Same as armour trim, but work up the sword leaving more of a metallic silver towards the tip.
Use a purple wash around the runes
Paint the runes skull white


Hope that helps

I won't be doing a daemon princess for this one, cause I think the only way to do it would be to sculpt boobs on it - and while I'm not worried about the funny looks, I was going to do this for a Soulgrinder project later on...

Dont worry hun
Theres 3 models there lol. (if you can ignore the S&M look of them)
Also, you can grab a set of wings that fit perfect from the morathi Dark elf model

And yeah I've stuck myself together, the first time modelling for me on my bloodletters and I glued my pointer fingers and thumbs together. But I haven't done much since - Metalli gets over-excited and puts all the models together - which I appreciate, cause the daemon prince looked difficult.

Think i can borrow him at some point? got a ton of metal models i need to put together, and with this glue, well, ill post pics of the carnage afterwards lol.

The only problem is the armor has top have elements of black/iceblue/and tentacle pink to match my CSM. But the flesh is what im wondering about, or if I could do the flesh pink and blue/ and the armor whatever color.

Maybe go with what i posted in my more ledgible painting idea, but use blue washes on the metallic trims, that should help it tie in with the army.

Drunk is fine - but I'm having a hard time following your and Metalli's convo, and what are squats? I think they discontinued before my time.

Not drunk, give me till 12 ish and possibly
Squats were pretty much space dwarves, but got eaten by the nids, and now dont exist anymore. (kinda like DE soon)

And I thought that the Daemon Prince model I have is being updated fairly soon? So it will be oldskool shortly.

There was talk of the new plastic kit one, but its release date keeps getting pushed back for no reason, so expect that anywhere from a month to a few years away :(


Also, if you dont mind moving away from GW models, a company called ultraforge do some amazing models, and actually have a slaanesh damon




Even after looking through this site, i never noticed the censored pics before 0_o

I like the paint scheme you suggested Wonder what Metalli would think?

As well, I also like the ultraforge slaanesh daemon, except for the head/face is somewhat off putting. Like it doesn't fit the rest of the model.
But it's all personal taste I guess.

JD21290 wrote:Edit: Posted as you posted and missed a bloody ton of stuff lol



Metalli: Hows the guard going mate? You gotta be near the 3k mark by now

Not really XD I've been finishing off my SM too. As I only have rank and file Guard left before I go out buying again, the SM's keep it somewhat fresh

I did get Elysians though, and I'm looking for uniform schemes

I like the paint scheme you suggested Wonder what Metalli would think?

Metalli?

As well, I also like the ultraforge slaanesh daemon, except for the head/face is somewhat off putting. Like it doesn't fit the rest of the model.
But it's all personal taste I guess.

The facial features of it are pretty good, but i think its the horns that really mess it up.
Should just be a case of remove them (2 mins work) and sculpt on hair (5 mins work)
If you wanted to go into detail you could keep the hair flat-ish and swept back and braid the front fringe area to break it up and add detail.
I may buy the model to test it out lol.

Not really XD I've been finishing off my SM too. As I only have rank and file Guard left before I go out buying again, the SM's keep it somewhat fresh

Stick to 1 army mate, you get alot more done (im one to talk lol)
Might aswell go all out on the guard, and paint up marines as you start getting bored.

I did get Elysians though, and I'm looking for uniform schemes

Ok, ill let it go then
Seems like a good enough reason to me.

May not fit your scheme, but could go for a desert DPM style, or if your feeling suicidal, try painting them up in digital ACU.

JD21290 wrote:

Not really XD I've been finishing off my SM too. As I only have rank and file Guard left before I go out buying again, the SM's keep it somewhat fresh

Stick to 1 army mate, you get alot more done (im one to talk lol)
Might aswell go all out on the guard, and paint up marines as you start getting bored.

I did get Elysians though, and I'm looking for uniform schemes

Ok, ill let it go then
Seems like a good enough reason to me.

May not fit your scheme, but could go for a desert DPM style, or if your feeling suicidal, try painting them up in digital ACU.

If I do digital, it'll be the original and first digital pattern - CADPAT

I like the skull white skin for the DP, but I think we might just do washes - that was what we were considering when the two of us were looking at the DP. She wants kind of a bruised, sallow effect in the eyes and recessed areas. I'm thinking alternating blue, purple, and black washes might do that

I think she's doing the armour on this one like her Slaaneshi CSM, but she can probably speak better on that than I can

I love the ultraforge pleasure demon. I never really considered doing slaanesh demons until seeing it. I really do not like the keeper of secrets that GW produces and the pleasure demon will make a fine replacement. I just can't wait until ultraforge gets some made and in stock. They aren't taking any new orders now as they are bogged down with christmas orders.

I've been trolling through a lot of blogs trying to get some ideas for doing my demons. I'm going to try to do an all slaanesh themed army. I think at 1850 pts. I can squeeze in 2 KOS, 2 squads of fiends, 3 large squads of deamonettes, and 2 soul grinders. I've got a lot of work ahead of me.

I absolutely love your bloodletters. It's nice seeing something Khorne related that isn't by default painted red. My old khorne army from 4th edition was like looking at a red wave marching across the field. I don't think I ever want to paint anything else red again for a long time. I also love the green armor on your skulltaker for the same reason. Your chaos marines are really nice. I love the shade of blue on the shoulder pads. It seems to mesh well with the dirty metal color of the rest of the armor.

Anyway, I hope to see more from you.

I like the skull white skin for the DP, but I think we might just do washes - that was what we were considering when the two of us were looking at the DP. She wants kind of a bruised, sallow effect in the eyes and recessed areas. I'm thinking alternating blue, purple, and black washes might do that

I think she's doing the armour on this one like her Slaaneshi CSM, but she can probably speak better on that than I can

That's the prob, I'm not very sure what I want I like the washed skin. Perhaps I could use the black armour still, and wash over metallic colors with blue/pink. The texture will be different but I'm trying to incorporate the blue shoulder pads with pink trim somewhere - there should be continuity say the voices in my head.

augustus5 wrote:
I absolutely love your bloodletters. It's nice seeing something Khorne related that isn't by default painted red. My old khorne army from 4th edition was like looking at a red wave marching across the field. I don't think I ever want to paint anything else red again for a long time. I also love the green armor on your skulltaker for the same reason. Your chaos marines are really nice. I love the shade of blue on the shoulder pads. It seems to mesh well with the dirty metal color of the rest of the armor.

Anyway, I hope to see more from you.

That's really nice to hear, the red Khorne actually turned me off at first. The best thing to do, is troll for pics and when you find a color or sheme you really like incorporate it onto your mini. I'll work on it Right now I'm basing and finishing up what I already got!

You could always go for a flesh tone body armor like I am.

Elf flesh + warlock purple are a great combo. Uhh look up "The Flawless Host"

Shadowbrand wrote:You could always go for a flesh tone body armor like I am.

Elf flesh + warlock purple are a great combo. Uhh look up "The Flawless Host"

Can't do flesh tone armor But I'd like to see pics of your army I can't find the flawless host though :(

Dammit, must I google-fu everything for you?



The Flawless Host

metallifan wrote:Dammit, must I google-fu everything for you?

Nooo... I didn't ask you to find it, but thanks anyways! And it's sexy I like it. Too bad I can't use it

Darn, i want those old school daemon princes so bad..

I donno... It's certainly bright, but the flesh colour just never sold me to be honest. It looks too bland for Slaanesh.

I agree that the flesh colour is too bland for Slaanesh (I just liked it on the marines). But I can't use it on the armor anywayz :( I like JD's idea of washing blue over boltgun metal trim. and keeping the armor black with highlights

Didja pick a scheme for your troops yet? I was kinda thinkin' desert camo would be cool. Just my two cents not like you have no suggestions so here's one more to ponder.

Binky,

here is a link with a guide on how to make reptile scales with green stuff.

http://bearer09beyond.blogspot.com/

Good luck with the army and get some more minis painted!

Thanks for the tip - I will definately consider scales if just not to practice conversion. Speaking of which maybe I can give my DP some different weapons? edit: He really needs a much bigger, extravagant sword

I will definately be getting my painting done - then I can buys more units - therefore I can actually game with a decent sized army, and I seem to be bitten by the motivational bug Oh yeah and my last exam is tomorrow so after that I have no more excuses not to get things done!

binky wrote:I agree that the flesh colour is too bland for Slaanesh (I just liked it on the marines). But I can't use it on the armor anywayz :( I like JD's idea of washing blue over boltgun metal trim. and keeping the armor black with highlights

Didja pick a scheme for your troops yet? I was kinda thinkin' desert camo would be cool. Just my two cents not like you have no suggestions so here's one more to ponder.

I think I might do them in a bastardization of our old early 90's uniforms. The good old NATO Khakis

There's a pic of a tester on my blog. That'll probably be how I paint the Elysians (though likely minus the blue helmet)

enmitee wrote:Darn, i want those old school daemon princes so bad..

Whoa, didn't think you posted here anymore!

Quick and easy method of making scales from GS: (had to do alot of work on my old salamanders army)

1: Flatten out the GS and apply it to the area your using yo make the scales on.
Make sure its about 2mm-3mm thick, depending on the size of the model.

2: go around the very edge of the GS which will be the edge of the scales, make the edges sharp, so remove any flowing lines as much as possible.

3: Use a knife (i use a small stanley blade) to carve the rough shapes into the GS.
It doesent matter if it doesent look right to start with, you just need to get all the scales laid out.

4: Once again with the knife, push it between the scales and move it slightly from side to side (go careful)
This will open them up a little more, giving you a tiny gap between each scale and making them look more realistic.

5: Use the end of an old paint brush (rounded ball tip) to gently prod randomly into the scales.
You just need to do it gently enough that it leaves a slight impression on the scales and will appear as a dent.

6: Just go back and tidy up any bits your not happy with.
If you want to remove any scales then wait till its dry, as you wont risk ruining a few of them then


Also, make sure you coat anything you use to sculpt in water or vaseline, otherwise the GS will just stick to everything. (i use water, but it doesent stay on the tools for too long)


Hope that helps, if not, i should have my cam chip back by friday and i could throw together a quick guide with pics.



Sword: If you want a larger sword its a simply plasticard job.
Nothing difficult, just a case of cutting away until your happy with the size and shape.
You could even go with a halberd style weapon for it, using some brass rod for the handle


Hope some of that helps
Been painting for once too lol, got my 1st nid test model done in my new ice scheme and im pretty happy with it.




Metalli: Could allways go with the blue DPM thats in the russian forces mate, its subtle, and looks great.

JD : The tutorial sure helps, but I'd definately appreciate pictures I'll be checking back Friday for sure. I'm sure there is 100 plus ways to form the scales, and i need some ideas - maybe i'll just google it.

I'll think on it, or I could swap out a different sword. Meh. Paint first.

Oh and never tried Vaseline, but I've found water dries too fast.

Thanks again for the help.

JD21290 wrote:Metalli: Could allways go with the blue DPM thats in the russian forces mate, its subtle, and looks great.

Didja check the tester I posted up in my blog? The link is right there... in my sig... a click away...


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Actually mate, thats not russian blues
More of a grey actually mate
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Binky: Ill write up a tutorial for you then on scales as soon as i can get pics on here
Should only take me 2-3 hours, and i actually have a friends termy unit here that he wants scales on lol (fething salamanders players)

Water can be a pain when it dries fast, also, if you over-do it with water you end up clotting up the model with water and you cant see what your doing lol.


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JD21290 wrote:Start thread-jack/
Actually mate, thats not russian blues
More of a grey actually mate
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It's the old 90's Canadian/NATO uniforms from the Bosnian war

They're a sort of Olive Green, but camera filters back then were rubbish

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Also: Babe, do you want me to do the rest of the sculpting for the remaining Bloodletters' bases during the week? Then we can just fire them off on the weekend before you have to go back up.

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Easy as anything to paint mate, just need a death wish to get you motivated to do so.


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Me either, it would take alot of talent, or some kind of tactical gen-

CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!

(I think it's why they call it a figure of speech)

Im just not sure how the feth it would be possible.
Dont think even creed could manage it
And please, no more imperial crap, metalli is loving it lol.

Binky, I think that your Daemons look really good keep up the Good work, can't wait to see more pictures!!

JD21290 wrote:

Easy as anything to paint mate, just need a death wish to get you motivated to do so.

I'll pass. I've had my share of rage-induced aneurysms this month

Metalli: See above post - I said yeah to finishing bases.

JD: I don't think it's even physically possible, and I know he loves the imperial shtick. I just was waiting for the moment to throw a creed joke in Felt kinda good.

Colonnello: Thank you and there will be more pics soon Promise, the lack of them is really ridiculous. This thread has turned into a bulls**t session more than a blog.

Metalli: Ill have to dig out pics mate, i did do a catatchin army (500 points or so) in that theme, and it took fething ages.


Binks: Ill have to try it somehow XD
Not sure how the feth to go about it though.

also, ill add my creed input then, made this a while ago after reading someones bat-rep

JD, how did you not notice... That 'Carnifex' is actually an Imperator Titan, and it's marching defiantly towards the Nid swarm

Haha, i doubt it mate, not much a flashlight will do now

Anyways, ill end the thread-jacking now, gotta get some sleep now since i need to get up at 5 -_-
Gotta love marching in the snow aint ya?

Binks: If i see Marky tomorrow ill grab the chip back for my cam and get that tutorial up for you hun.

Peace

Cool work here, i like it! Ive been using greenstuff scales, and made this tutorial
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/267539.page

Im by no means a Greenstuff expert, this tute is for the people starting out.

Keep up the excellent work!

JD21290 wrote:Haha, i doubt it mate, not much a flashlight will do now

Anyways, ill end the thread-jacking now, gotta get some sleep now since i need to get up at 5 -_-
Gotta love marching in the snow aint ya?

Fun times. Not as fun as doing your morning PT on roads covered in black ice while it's still dark out, mind you. Ever seen half a platoon slip and break their faces at once? Funny as all hell

Anyway, I'll see how many lava bases I can rape in 5 days then

binky wrote:

Oh and never tried Vaseline, but I've found water dries too fast.

Thanks again for the help.

KY Jelly is better than vaseline because it is water soluble. It washes off without leaving a residue like vaseline does.

edit: just read the thread and realized that you were talking about sculpting green stuff, not making sweet sweet love. Nevermind.

edit edit: yeah the first edit is just a joke and ky is awesome for working with green stuff.

1st: I apologise for the blurry pics lol, not my cam and i had to get a new chip in the end.
So i didnt have a fething clue how to work the thing.
But, this is what i got:


Make sure the blade your using for this is allways kept wet, otherwise it sticks to bloody everything and everything it can lol.


1: Get the basic model and work out how much GS you will need.



2: All the junk laid out on the table: Model, blade, water, brush and GS.



3: Apply the GS to the area your making the scales. (Duh!)



4: Sharpen up the edges and make sure it fits well.
Get rid of any overhanging GS as it will get in the way and its not needed.



5: Use the end of a rounded paint brush to stipple along the area, leaving indents over the GS.
After that, use a sharp blade and gently make scratch marks over it (make sure they arent very deep, you should only just be able to see them)



6: Start cutting into the putty, making the edges of each scale.
I find its easier to work from the edges inwards.


7: Finish up making the scale shapes on the model.



8: Use the very tip of the blade to make the gaps between scales wider (put the tip of the blade between them and gently move it side to side)
Do that along the edges of every scale (seems like it will take ages, but its pretty quick)
This makes them seem a little more life like rather than scratched on.





And you done!
And since i mixed up too much (bollocks!) i decided to do the same on the shin armour aswell









Once again hun, i apologise for the bad pics
If i can get my cam back later on ill re-do the whole thing so you can get a better look at how it all looks.
Also, if you got any Q's, just post here or drop me a PM, im allways on here lol.

Hope it helps

i really like those slaaneshi pain[t] jobs. Very crisp, in that neat and disturbing way. Like Hello Kitty with fishhook teeth and chainsaw hands... I like it
Also, the ghouls as horrors i havnt seen before. They also look very good

Babe, I didja a favor and started the skintones on your DP. He now officially looks like a strung-out crack junkie that just pulled a weeklong binge

from a daemon player to another..........want more updates.

Sorry I've gone from winter break back into school :( Perhaps between studying and having a life I'll get to it cause I'm really excited about the daemon prince. But thanks to those of you who care! It just may be awhile til I'm up and running again.

Very Nice!

Aww, I just thought that Binky made an update..

She'll have some stuff soon. I bought her a Chaos Battleforce on the weekend. And I painted her DP as part two of her Christmas present (The DP itself was part one, I'm just slow sometimes ) so there should be updates soon, as she's got an arseload of stuff to work through