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Post by: legoburner
Though he left GW quite some time ago, what do you think of the man?
Since people routinely say blanket statements 'we love X' and 'we hate X' trying to speak for the whole community, I thought I'd run some polls on the bigger figures in GW to see what people really think of them...
Keep personal attacks out of this forum and out of this website. It goes without saying that very few people here will have actually met him so this is based entirely on his contributions to GW. If you have met him then anecdotes are welcome so long as they are not rude or against the rules of this website.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
He's been gone a long time but he did seem to enjoy 'rock star' status in GW.
The rumour was he left over clashes with other staff.
Difficult for me to judge since unlike JJ, he wasn't providing a constant 2 page article on his opinions of the game.
So I'm posting positive.
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Post by: Commissar Molotov
Didn't screw anything up in the hobby, and had simply AWESOME muttonchop sideburns to boot!
Very positive!
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Post by: Major Malfunction
Andy seems like a standup guy. From what I've read in White Dwarf:
Answered a lot of questions via FAQ
Came up with some great conversions and alternate army lists
Seemed like a fun player to have on the other side of the table
Didn't he leave over "creative differences" over the direction of 4th Edition (also a positive in my book: speaks to integrity...)?
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Post by: JonasE
Has nothing against him 
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Post by: George Spiggott
If I'm not mistaken he also originated the phrase 'ivory tower' in reference to the design studio. The best GW studio celeb ever.
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Post by: Gitzbitah
Andy Chambers, he's the man. I understand that he launched the Daemonhunter and Witch Hunters books in an attempt to keep the Sisters of Battle from being squatted by the powers that be.
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Post by: Dark Lord Seanron
The Man with the fantastic raised eyebrow 
I am indeed a fan of the good Mr Chambers ^^ certainly alot more than the dread Gav or JJ 
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Post by: Archonate
Very positive. I always loved Andy Chambers. Unless I heard wrong, he left because the studio was going the way of "MaXiMiZe PrOfItS!!! HURR DEE DURR! Space Marine Spam!!!" And Andy didn't like the favoritism. He wanted the company to be about the hobby. He thought it should exist for the players and not be about the money. Had he stuck around, we might not be tolerating the millionth iteration of a tactical marine. He is missed. 
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Post by: KingCracker
I only remember him from a few battle reps back in the day. I was a young kid when I remembered him. So again Ill pick neutral, simply because most of these guys I know the names of, but I dont follow the cast and crew of GW so dont really know what they do or dont do
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Post by: Vermillion
From what I've been told by someone who met him he esxpects rock star status, and thats from people who don't know what a GW is 
Also I'll need to dig out the 3rd ed rulebook, but didmnt he contribute to that systems creation?
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Post by: skullking
Def my fav from the old dayz.
Are we going to get polls for all of these guys. Ian Pickstock? Robin Dews? Space McQuirk?
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Post by: oadie
Voted for "Who?" Seems he was gone long before I got into the hobby. Hearing what's been said so far, though, I wish he was still around. Be nice to have a "players first, profit later" voice on the inside, plus I'm partial to facial hair, having a decent bit of it, myself.
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Post by: styles1005
Umm . . . Who? Jervis Johnson (or, as I first heard of him,  ervis ohnson) I know of, albeit indirectly. Andy Chambers . . . One reference. Maybe. I don't even remember where. Anybody else . . . 
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Post by: Flashman
Andy Chambers for all those posting "Who?", was one of the core group of games designers from the period that many of us older Dakka members refer to as the good old days. He had a great sense of humour and anything he wrote ( WD or army books) was always worth reading.
Not sure if he invented Skaven, but he certainly refined them and came up with all the cool ideas like the Screaming Bell (for which he scratch built the first ever model).
Big, big, big loss on the part of GW. You can trace the downward spiral from the point that he left
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Post by: skullking
If I'm not mistaken, Mr. Chambers now works as a games designer at Blizzard, on Starcraft 2 IIRC. If that's true, he's definately making the cash he's deserved all these years. 
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Post by: Chaosgyro
I remember talking to him at a Games Day a long time ago...wonderful guy, and really funny. I like that the company didn't shy away from representing all of the different forces with variant army lists during his tenure as 40k Overfiend.
He went to work on the Starship Troopers game after leaving GW then, as skullking said, found his way to Blizzard. Seems like once you go Marine you never go back.
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Post by: Happygrunt
So Andy Chambers is the good guy, and Jervis Johnson is the bad guy?
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Post by: Che-Vito
skullking wrote:If I'm not mistaken, Mr. Chambers now works as a games designer at Blizzard, on Starcraft 2 IIRC. If that's true, he's definately making the cash he's deserved all these years.
Which is wonderful that his talent and energy has been put somewhere I can enjoy it as well...
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Post by: warpcrafter
Andy Chambers is a GOD! He and Adrian Woods are the two who sold me on Warhammer 40,000 in the first place. I was even enthusiastic about Starship Troopers. It was after he left that GW went to the dark side.
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Post by: Eidolon
I was but a youngin when he still ran things. But i seem to remember a happier GW, a more about fun GW. I miss chapter approved, I miss Andy
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Post by: boyd
warpcrafter wrote:Andy Chambers is a GOD! He and Adrian Woods are the two who sold me on Warhammer 40,000 in the first place. I was even enthusiastic about Starship Troopers. It was after he left that GW went to the dark side.
Whatever happened to Adrian Woods? I know his articles were great to read in the WD and he always had a sweet ork army.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
He was an ideas man, with a passion for the hobby and expanding it beyond what was written just in the books. That along garners him a very positive opinion.
But!
Like many at GW, he couldn't write rules to save himself, and is responsible for the mess 3rd Ed became as time went on. Eventually the wonderful "Chapter Approved" articles in WD became less about new ideas, and more about fixing whatever they missed when writing the latest Codex - a safety net, if you will.
So that reduces my opinions of him to simply positive.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
I answered who, but regret it now.
I answered before I remember who he is...
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Post by: lord_blackfang
I don't really buy into this concept of a single game developer dictating GW policy at any given time. But if that were the case, I think Andy's era was worse than Jervis's era.
Sure, he was a cool guy and he had that nice personal touch. But the sins of his era include:
SM Chapter of the Month: making players believe that each chapter is deserving of special rules and there should be something new for Marines ALL THE TIME. Something the company, and the player base, has yet to recover from.
Codex Orks: already underpowered when it came out and much worse than JJ's much maligned 3.0 Chaos codex.
Codex Sprint: the stronger, faster brother of Codex Creep. I'm talking 3.0 Eldar, Nids, 3.5 Chaos here. Often a result of overcomplicated Codices with too many choices.
Pete Haines: This man, brought into the studio by Andy, did all he could to ruin the game through sheer incompetence and ignorance. Ultimately, any army with 2 wounds has a lot going for it, indeed.
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Post by: Mick A
There would be no BFG without Andy...
Gets 'two thumbs up' from me!
Mick
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Post by: Herohammernostalgia
It's not possible indeed, to hold AC accountable for the "Good Old Times" alone. However, he left GW just at the point that GW's attitude shifted to a less liberal approach. I am not informed as to his reasons to leave, but it is funny how it coincides with the new policies of GW (money! get the kids! army of the month PWNZR!).
The older Codices and Army books did have balance issues, sure, but at the time, I believe GW expected it's customers themselves to be reasonable people with these liberties. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you have to. So, now they made things much more simplistic, which takes away character and variety and still features similar loop-holes and skewed balance (Demons).
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Post by: Kingsley
The idea that there was a "good old days" seems ridiculous in light of all the improvements we're seeing. I think the "good old days" mentality in general comes from the horrors of 4th edition-- but those bad times are over, and we're in the best period yet.
As for Andy, he seemed like a cool enough guy, though he was responsible for a lot of the late 3rd Chapter Approved stupidity. The rumors that Starship Troopers was supposed to be 40k 4th have always kind of appealed to me.
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Post by: mortal888
No way, the good old days were when everyone could customize their army based on the flavor they wanted. The chapter approved lists were great, from the minotaurs space marines to the ogryn guard list and abhumans IG. The clan based orks to the special tyranid weapons. I loved the crater rules and the cool scenarios with monstrous beasts running around the table with man eating plants.
The game was less serious then. No one accepts using cool old rules for scenarios and such because it's not currently printed. Yeah, I miss those old days. I think the only thing I don't miss about the old days were Pete Haines' stupid Iron Warriors, but that wasn't really Andy.
Very Positive
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Post by: Kingsley
The Chapter Approved lists were a good way for GW to rip everybody off on issues of White Dwarf. I'm glad that they've gone away. Making a fluffy army isn't exactly difficult.
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Post by: gretar
styles1005 wrote:Umm . . . Who? Jervis Johnson (or, as I first heard of him, ervis ohnson) I know of, albeit indirectly. Andy Chambers . . . One reference. Maybe. I don't even remember where. Anybody else . . .
Andy Chambers worked extensively on various 40k rulebooks and sourcebooks, and also authored at least one fiction novel set in the Warhammer universe.
So I put down Positive 
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Post by: Mr. Burning
Voted positive,
Chapter approved was probably not his finest era but he always appeared enthusiastic.
I like to believe the tale of Andy answering a question about the squats and their potential comeback saying that all Squats had died of gayitis and there was no chance of them coming back..ever!...
Quality!
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Very positive, I also agree that the company seems to have gone down hill since he left. The fact he championed Skaven and Tyranids into mainstream armies also goes highly in his favour from me.
I must admit it was slightly odd watching the Blizzcon stream and see him talking about Starcraft 2, and in particular when he briefly talked about the Zerg. Just odd.
But aye, yeah very positive here.
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Post by: mortal888
The Chapter Approved lists were a good way for GW to rip everybody off on issues of White Dwarf. I'm glad that they've gone away. Making a fluffy army isn't exactly difficult.
It's not if you are vanilla (insert whatever army here). All the armies are so cookie cutter with obvious choices you can't live without that it's lame. How do you make the all Ogryn list since they aren't troops? How about the all biker white scars? If fluffy armies are the argument for the new edition, then 3.5 was way better.
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Post by: Cosmic
Here's the man - I'm sure that H.B.M.C. had a better picture of him somewhere):
Look for the guy in the red shirt and side-burns...
I'm just going to check whether or not this is Dakka2 legal...
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Post by: Tyranid Horde
Don't know him
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Post by: Eidolon
Cosmic wrote:
Dat ass
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Post by: Cosmic
 Eidolon wrote:Dat ass
Please elaborate... I guess that I should probably know what it means. It's good, right? 
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Post by: Cane
Andy Chambers was imo a loss for the GW hobby community but he's off to bigger and better things at Blizz.
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Post by: Brother SRM
Just this week I read a really awesome short story of his called "Ancient History" in an old 40k short story anthology; Dark Imperium. It's easily the best short story in the book, and it gave a really cool look into the lives of the slave crew on an Imperial ship. It was well written, well paced, and like no 40k fiction I'd read before.
I remember opening the third edition rulebook and seeing his smug mug over a Space Marine army. There was a battle report in there where he fought Eldar - I think they were Jervis'. That really got me interested in the game.
He also came up with a lot of the USRs we have now, like Feel No Pain and the like. Chapter Approved was cool, and I'd be ecstatic if there was still content like that in White Dwarf. Very Positive from me.
He also looks like Lemmy Kilmister in those images that Cosmic posted.
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Post by: Cosmic
Brother SRM wrote:I remember opening the third edition rulebook and seeing his smug mug over a Space Marine army. There was a battle report in there where he fought Eldar - I think they were Jervis'. That really got me interested in the game.
Right on - 3rd edition rulebook FTW! Oh, and he was short-haired and shaven at that point in time. I'm so glad that they put a battle report back in the 5th edition rulebook. Brother SRM wrote:He also looks like Lemmy Kilmister in those images that Cosmic posted.
I've just Googled Lemmy Kilmister. You're spot on - He's not far off! Thank H.B.M.C. for the pictures, though. Automatically Appended Next Post: I felt keen to show you guys this. Here's one for the young(er)'uns.  I've never really known much about him, but I always liked him because of this photo - Seriously! He seemed to be a fun person, one with the kind of personality that I'd want to see in the hobby... I know, just from a photo! Well, there you have it. Third edition = My favourite edition. It's not the best but, like everyone else, it's the rulebook that I started off from.
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Post by: Ozymandias
Just positive. I think those "good old days" weren't as good as we think they were (5th ed is far superior to 2nd and 3rd) but I did enjoy his contributions to the GW Hobby.
In particular how he and Jervis would often play battle reports and Jervis would always, without fail, lose.
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Post by: Da Boss
Positive. He injected a lot of fun into 40k, but man, that ork book sucked, and his tenure was when the release schedule began to spiral out of control. Also, he hired pete haines.
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Post by: spence76
Very Positive,
I started playing in early 1996, and definitely think he had a very positive impact on the game, once he left GW went to the profit over player model. 3rd edition may have had its problems but I think it was funner to play, units were more customizable, and it wasn't so serious. The biggest thing was it cut the game time from 4-5 hours for a 2000 point army to about 2 hours. I don't think 40k would be were it is evolution wise with out Andy Chambers and Adrian Woods. Just my 2 cents take it for what its worth.
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Post by: theHandofGork
The guy invented gorkamorka. Need we say more?
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
I met him while working at the Glen Burnie Bunker. He was a normal guy, very funny, and I wouldn't have minded having a beer or two with him.
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Post by: Eidolon
I do agree with the people saying that 3rd edition, while less balanced, for more about fun then profit or competition. Then again maybe I just became a competitive player after it was over.
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Post by: Pirate_joe_666
Ah, the good old days of Chambers and Woods. Back when White Dwarf was worth the read.
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Post by: ZacktheChaosChild
Dont know a lot about him, but he seems to be the reason why there are more than a few oarralels between starcraft and 40k
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Post by: Kingsley
mortal888 wrote:The Chapter Approved lists were a good way for GW to rip everybody off on issues of White Dwarf. I'm glad that they've gone away. Making a fluffy army isn't exactly difficult.
It's not if you are vanilla (insert whatever army here). All the armies are so cookie cutter with obvious choices you can't live without that it's lame. How do you make the all Ogryn list since they aren't troops? How about the all biker white scars? If fluffy armies are the argument for the new edition, then 3.5 was way better.
Making an all Ogryn list was never possible, and the new Codex: Space Marines allows you to make all biker armies easily.
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Post by: Shaman
Double post Daemon has spoken!
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Post by: Samus666
I voted very positive, for all the things mentioned above (including some things others see as negative points, like Pete Haines). I came on board the good ship 40k during late third edition, while he was at the helm, and things were going from strength to strength - Chapter Approved, Codexes with depth and variety, the Eye of Terror campaign etc etc etc. Yeah, the schedule started going awry while he was in charge, but it's been much worse since he left. also, he's written some great books. He's "da man" and is missed.
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Post by: Hawkins
I still have the issue of WD welcoming Andy onboard, and soon after that i became one of his fans, and still am today. His battle reports are the stuff of legend. and his attitude towards the hobby side of things just makes me like him all the more. So very positive bordering on absolutely devoted.
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Post by: frogboy
wow
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Post by: wardancer
come on, it WAs old good days when Andy was around- WD was certainly worth buying and it was god laugh, not like colourful advertisement it is these days.
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Post by: Eidolon
I agree with wardancer. I quit buying white dwarf shortly after andy left.
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Post by: Howlingmoon
Neutral: He built alot of what Warhammer and 40K is, but he abandoned us when we probably needed him most.
Toumas Pirenen falls into the same category.
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Post by: The Crippler
I wish he'd come back.
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Post by: Yggdrasil
Howlingmoon wrote:Neutral: He built alot of what Warhammer and 40K is, but he abandoned us when we probably needed him most.
I think Howlingmoon had a good point.
He was the man, and GW was all about fun and enjoyment back at the time... Now things are different uh...
And he was THE SKAVEN LORD !!!!!!!!!
The Hobby misses that guy......
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Post by: haderach
He kicked my dog. Very negative.
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Post by: Grunt_For_Christ
I just can't believe the majority of people here don't know who he is... is the dakka crowd just majorly younger than I am or what?
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Post by: Sidstyler
Positive. If I recall correctly he came up with the Tau and probably even Kroot.
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Post by: mattyrm
Best of luck to him, if he is over at Blizz no doubt he is making a pretty penny these days..
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Post by: FD3sAutobot
I'm amazed a lot of people don't know who he is either. I remember his departure from GW caused a huge commotion in the community.
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Post by: col. krazy kenny
I wish he would come back to gw,they need him theese new guys doing the codexs and rules are not as good as him. it helps that he was one of the main people back in the day to help get 40k up and going they need his creative influances. If hes at blizz. then he is with mike mcvey( og heavy metal painter). mcvey left to do w.o.w. after gw turned them down. andys starship troopers game bombed so it understandible why he went there.
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Post by: Grunt_For_Christ
They definitely need his creative influence. They really haven't done much of anything that's truly creative or revolutionary for way, way too long.
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Post by: ProtoClone
I miss him. I was actually thinking of him when I stumbled upon this thread. I was thinking and wondering what the game would be like today if he stayed around.
He expected rock star status from people? In a way he would deserve it from the miniatures gaming community, IMHO. He has a good mind for the hobby and it showed. But now he is working for Blizzard as their head creative guy...and are we for the better without him? Not sure.
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Post by: CplPunishment
Couldn't agree more with people about characters like him being a loss. Without Chapter approved and other assorted goodies, White Dwarf isn't worth the money you pay since it is essentially an advertisement magazine now.
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Post by: Olaf the Hairy
Met him once at a Mongoose open day in Swindon. He GM'd a game of Starship Troopers which was being playtested. Seemed like a good guy and was willing to take on our opinions on the rules.
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Post by: BishopGore
He was the man in WD when I was growing up with the hobby a decade ago. He always reminded me a little of Wolverine (the Marvel character, of course).
He gets two thumbs up from me for the pics of him, the eyebrows and weird smiles. And all the gaming stuff of course!
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Post by: barlio
Voted Neutral, but now that I think of it I think I've got a positive opinion of him. Just seems like the game took a weird turn after he left.
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Post by: Ed_Bodger
Cosmic wrote: Here's the man - I'm sure that H.B.M.C. had a better picture of him somewhere):
Look for the guy in the red shirt and side-burns...
I'm just going to check whether or not this is Dakka2 legal...
Oh my god this just got me really excited I think this was in my first every copy of WD when the BA, SW and Ultramarines combined to woop some renegade IG ass this was like the Apocalypse battle of the time. I wish I still had a copy of this WD.
Back onto subject I associate Andy Chambers with my first introduction to GW when I was about 10 and I used to think he was awesome. (He looks a bit of a geek looking back at the pics) however I met him at a GD and he was a top bloke.
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Post by: Hjoey75
Back when the game was good. He will be missed.
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Post by: CT GAMER
Coolest facial hair in the history of GW...
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Post by: LEEQAEX
Thin kI know who he is. Just googled him recognise his face, I started back in 03 so I vaguely recall him. He is working on starcraft 2 now way to go to the dark side
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Post by: Phototoxin
He seemed sensible from what I could tell from the olde dayz (or daze?)
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Post by: KamikazeCanuck
His official staff photo is him doing the People's Eyebrow! Awesome.
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Post by: Ixias
oadie wrote:Voted for "Who?" Seems he was gone long before I got into the hobby. Hearing what's been said so far, though, I wish he was still around. Be nice to have a "players first, profit later" voice on the inside, plus I'm partial to facial hair, having a decent bit of it, myself.
Pretty much what this guy said. He (Andy) seems like a real cool guy judging from what I've heard, but I only looked up him after voting "Who?".
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
'Very Positive' I think, bit hard to judge when you don't know someone personally but I generally hear good things about him.
I don't know if the decline in the quality of GW is symptom or cause of his leaving though. Probably a bit of both.
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Post by: BaronIveagh
Mick A wrote:There would be no BFG without Andy...
Gets 'two thumbs up' from me!
Mick
Seconded!
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Post by: ArbeitsSchu
If Motorhead did a Skaven army..it would look like his.
He was the only person doing "dark and gothic" at the height of the "All bases MUST be Goblin Green." period, and he is the single reason I have as many thousands of points of Ratmen as I do.
He also never smelled of "Corporate".
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Post by: Squat Kid
He's an alright guy, but Jervis... Douche
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Post by: weetyskemian44
I remember that giant tank battle too! Yeah and he looks like a wartless lemmy from motorhead. So I guess its a thumbs up
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Post by: mullet_steve
I voted possitive because I met him a couple of times at the first couple of grand tournaments in nottingham... I chatted to hi a little bit and yes he was a bit of a deva but he was also funny and did talk to my 15 year old self for more than just hero worship... especialy as I had a bee in my bonnet about Njal Stormcaller being allowed less equiptment than a standard rune priest of the same level... I so wanted to give him combat druggs at the time. Oh well.
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Post by: Welsh_guy
I cannot believe the "who" vote is nearly as much as the very positive and positive combined....he only left 6 years ago!!
....It's offical 90% of Dakkaites are 17 years olds....*
I ironic as many of the people who voted "Who?" probably play Starcraft 2 made by Blizzard which he is now the Creative Director....
Nate
* Also with polls such as "what time do you go to bed?" it's hardly suprising. Some 13 year old had an argument and venting on dakka most prob.
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Post by: nickick
Who is he?
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Post by: sennacherib
The only person with GW that i have an opinion of is Robin Cruddycrap. He sucks. nids codex. nough said.
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Post by: RatBot
I think Andy Chambers si a pretty cool guy. Eh makes wargaems and doesn't afraid of anything.
Seriously, though, he was awesome and I (rightly) feared for GW's future when he parted ways with the company.
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Post by: sarpedons-right-hand
Met him way back, Games Day 98 I think. He was sat with The Grand Warlord Adrian Woods......awesome fellas, willing to talk about anything. Not just GW. Had a great few minutes chat with Andy about motorbikes, his other passion aside from Skaven. He wrote the first Skaven book afaik....
Top top fella, along with Ian Picstock, Gav Thorpe et al......
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Post by: Adam LongWalker
mortal888 wrote:No way, the good old days were when everyone could customize their army based on the flavor they wanted. The chapter approved lists were great, from the minotaurs space marines to the ogryn guard list and abhumans IG. The clan based orks to the special tyranid weapons. I loved the crater rules and the cool scenarios with monstrous beasts running around the table with man eating plants.
The game was less serious then. No one accepts using cool old rules for scenarios and such because it's not currently printed. Yeah, I miss those old days. I think the only thing I don't miss about the old days were Pete Haines' stupid Iron Warriors, but that wasn't really Andy.
Very Positive
QFT. My sentiments exactly.
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Post by: deathholydeath
Andy was a great game designer. I wish he'd come back to the game.
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Post by: Varrick
Too new to this to know who the feth he is past rumors from my days in Warcraft. Not a pretty picture for what i know of him.
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Post by: infinite_array
Is Andy Chambers working for someone else now? It seems that many of the 'Old Guard' have left GW and are now doing something else:
-Alessio's working with Mantic
-Priestly's got his work with historicals
-Johnson's.... wait, what is he doing? Doesn't GW just put him in the closet between 'Standard Bearer'?
I just checked myself - Chambers is working with Blizzard, eh? Good on 'im.
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Post by: KoganStyle
Thornton is also working on Mantic as a Games Designer.
The Good old days were also days when gamers were more flexible, believing it was their universe too so if they wanted to field a pecuilar choice of marine chapter/ork/eldar army they could, without being screamed at by the younger 'Its not in the fluff, therefore it can't be real' gamers around now.
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Post by: robertsjf
I have mixed feelings about Mr. Chambers. Yes, he did give us BFG, but look at what he did to EPIC. Now, I'm not saying it's a bad ruleset per se. I think it's a nice set of rules that should have been done for something else (see how well it works with BFG). For EPIC, though, it killed it. So, he did alot of good and alot of bad. I'm not sure how to vote.
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Post by: Viersche
What's he been up to these days?
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Post by: mwnciboo
41% don't know who he is? He's like the Midge Ure of the Miniature world! What do you mean you've never heard of him either?
Man, when I voted on this i felt very old indeed. One Word "EPIC" nuff' said.
EDIT ;- My post was originally going to be a quote of everyone who was negative or never heard of him with a Huge GTFO at the bottom.  Realised the MODS would probably shout Heresy and "Legal Finish" me and then charge my wife the cost of the Bolt Shell.
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Post by: KingmanHighborn
lord_blackfang wrote:I don't really buy into this concept of a single game developer dictating GW policy at any given time. But if that were the case, I think Andy's era was worse than Jervis's era.
Sure, he was a cool guy and he had that nice personal touch. But the sins of his era include:
SM Chapter of the Month: making players believe that each chapter is deserving of special rules and there should be something new for Marines ALL THE TIME. Something the company, and the player base, has yet to recover from.
Codex Orks: already underpowered when it came out and much worse than JJ's much maligned 3.0 Chaos codex.
Codex Sprint: the stronger, faster brother of Codex Creep. I'm talking 3.0 Eldar, Nids, 3.5 Chaos here. Often a result of overcomplicated Codices with too many choices.
Pete Haines: This man, brought into the studio by Andy, did all he could to ruin the game through sheer incompetence and ignorance. Ultimately, any army with 2 wounds has a lot going for it, indeed.
Oh come on 3.0 Eldar was my first army way back when I got into this in 2000. I remember building my army, my way, taking my lumps, learning what works and how to use the pieces in the 'dex to thier best, instead of just buying what everyone else had, and use the same list as the other guys. And 3.5 Chaos was the BEST codex ever written BECAUSE of the choices. If that book was overcomplicated then please graduate from the 4th grade. (sorry but that book was so awesome, compared to the craptastic one we have now.)
Choices = variety. Variety = spice of life. And Spice of Life = Why the game is fun. And 3rd was the best version of the game before the assault rules were redone. So yeah was Chamber's perfect? No. Put history speaks for itself considering the downward spiral of things recently. Also I adored Chapter Approved as it gave players the ability to have fun new quirks in thier games, with new units (Carnosaur anybody? ) and fun scenarios and stuff.
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Post by: THE_DUDE
I miss Andy. Like some of the other posts on here I think back to when Andy was around and the Hobby definitely felt "happier".
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Post by: Loyalwatcher
Mick A wrote:There would be no BFG without Andy...
Gets 'two thumbs up' from me!
Mick
This. He designed Battlefleet Gothic, in my opinion the best GW game there is. So very positive.
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Post by: Trondheim
Cant say I really know anything about him, I was without acceses to White Dwarf for several years. But most likly he was a nice guy
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Post by: Mr.Malevolent
I miss Andy Chambers.
He was definitely a big factor in the old GW that I miss.
His Chapter Approved articles were ridiculous but fun as hell.
Plus his mutton chops were godly!
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Post by: Boss Goretoof
Only know the name and that's it.
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Post by: grishnaz
he left over profit grabbing and now works at blizzard.....
out of the frying pan into the boiling inferno that is hell itself.
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Post by: Jag_Calle
Andy Chambers, Tuomas Pirinen, Adrian Woods, and to some extent, Paul "fat bloke" Sawyers.
I miss 'em all. The games WERE better back then. WD was worth a read, and Adrian "grand warlord" Woods lost just about every battlereport in which he played...
The fat bloke is on my list for two reasons, firstly, because he stared in the first "a tale of four gamers" article series with his beastmen, and secondly 'cause he made me look up the word "bloke" in the english-swedish dictionary...
I miss Andy for alot of reasons. But I admire him mainly for creating Gorkamorka, the best game rekeased by GW, and I still hope they'll release that and digganob again...
//Calle
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Post by: CT GAMER
Sweet facial hair.
I'd do him..
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Post by: mwnciboo
CT GAMER wrote:Sweet facial hair.
I'd do him..
So wrong CT! But I wonder if Andy finds that a compliment? Andy Chambers now works at Blizzard Entertainment? as in the WoW people? (didn't know that)
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Post by: CT GAMER
mwnciboo wrote:CT GAMER wrote:Sweet facial hair.
I'd do him..
So wrong CT! But I wonder if Andy finds that a compliment? Andy Chambers now works at Blizzard Entertainment? as in the WoW people? (didn't know that)
All joking aside, he always seemed like a cool guy you would want to hang out/have a game with.
And tbh he wasn't the greatest painter/converter, but his orks had their own distinct charm and I always loved seeing pics of them. back then the studio guys seemed to have interesting personalities and play the game out of a love of wargaming and breathing life into the setting, etc.
Things seem so sterile and less characterful now tbh and I think losing guys like Chambers hasn't helped with that fact...
And with that I'm off to go read some old WD mags and 2nd edition codexes...
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Post by: Do_I_Not_Like_That
All this talk of Chambers makes me want to reach for a violin
Sure, I miss the days of Pirinen, Stillman, Chambers, Adrian Woods, Paul Sawyer et al There was always that sense of humour about the game and the magazine.
But people were saying this back in the 1980s when Jackson and Livingston sold up and left.
People don't need GW for the hobby or any individuals. Internet forums, clubs etc have made this hobby into a golden age of information and cheap stuff to buy. People these days seem to lack imagination and have too much reliance on official stuff.
I don't mean to show my age, but in my day we would have given our back teeth for access to technology that the younger generation has. You've never had it so good.
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