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TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/03 21:23:22


Post by: jackvolerich


I was on the war store and for the sneak peak for new games workshop stuff it said on December 5 there coming out with a Tryanid Battleforce. Here is the link to the page

http://www.thewarstore.com/GWNewReleasesAdvancedOrders.html

I don't play Tryanids but for those who do, I hope it has what you want in it.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/03 21:27:15


Post by: Sinister Brain


Woohoo!

Nice spotting. I wonder what's going be in it?
Now I have an excuse to buy more Tyranids.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/03 21:29:57


Post by: Cheese Elemental


Sweet! It's preorder time!

...from a store that's cheaper, offers free shipping, and ships at top speed.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/03 21:32:23


Post by: avantgarde


I will be getting this for my birfday and putting it together drunk.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/03 21:36:27


Post by: Flashman


Not much given away regarding content is there. Oh well, Skaven are going to keep me amused for the time being, so no new Nids for me regardless.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/03 21:45:05


Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable


That's my birthday!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/03 21:55:00


Post by: Kanluwen


Cheese Elemental wrote:Sweet! It's preorder time!

...from a store that's cheaper, offers free shipping, and ships at top speed.


Fixed your embedded url


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/03 22:29:14


Post by: Necros


it's going to come with: 3 Warriors, 8 gaunts, 8 hormaguants, 8 gargoyles and a trygon!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/03 22:48:35


Post by: Cheif Librarian Vaako


How do you know? and isnt the trygon for apocalypse? :confused: :S do you mean carnifex or something (not a 'nid player so correct me on names etc)


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/03 22:52:42


Post by: Sinister Brain


Kanluwen wrote:
Cheese Elemental wrote:Sweet! It's preorder time!

...from a store that's cheaper, offers free shipping, and ships at top speed.


Fixed your embedded url


Ahahahahahaha!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/03 23:06:04


Post by: avantgarde


I've heard some weird stuff about the new battleforce for instance I read on Warpshadow there are 49 models in the box and Warseer said that there won't be any new models.

I don't think anyone knows what's going on.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/03 23:12:21


Post by: Fateweaver


I doubt there would be new models in the battleforce as they would be unusable until January when new rules came out.

I could see it if GW included the codex but we know that won't happen so I'm sure it's just current BF repackaged.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 00:07:38


Post by: deitpike


it's a re-release of the current (run out) Battleforce
Nothing new


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 01:21:56


Post by: RogueMarket


Guys- look at the retail - 105$


Money/Price creep?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 01:40:56


Post by: Alex Kolodotschko


Necros wrote:it's going to come with: 3 Warriors, 8 gaunts, 8 hormaguants, 8 gargoyles and a trygon!

I'll take three!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 02:08:44


Post by: Thorgut


RogueMarket wrote:Guys- look at the retail - 105$


Money/Price creep?

I'm not that familiar with US prices but the Skaven Battalion in the UK costs 10% more than the older ones.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 02:44:54


Post by: Kanluwen


They're supposedly moving away from sticking to $90(or equivalent) prices--and moving more towards having the battleforces being force equivalents.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 02:45:06


Post by: Wayfarer


Skaven battalion listed as $105 as well.

GW price increase once again.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 02:50:07


Post by: BrassScorpion


All Battleforce and Battalion sets in the US were priced at $90 when the Tau Battleforce was released a few years ago, but starting in 2008 with some of the new Battalions like the Empire Battalion last year, the $90 standard price structure for those sets has been discarded. New Battleforce and Battalion sets since 2008 have had various prices as it was before the $90 uniform pricing that existed for the few years before 2008.

Now what's with those prices at The War Store for the December GW releases? They are not the usual 20% off GW's MSRP, but only 10%. Now that's scary. It's probably a mistake since the top of the page still states everything will be 20% off.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 02:51:03


Post by: Asherian Command


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!! No i'm kidding but still this is really getting annoying GW. I wish i had a link to what grinds my gears -.- thank you family guy we love you.
But still 105? i can barely afford the battle force as it is. thats going to piss alot of people.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 03:39:05


Post by: warpcrafter


Details, please!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 03:49:30


Post by: Alpharius


Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:That's my birthday!


What?!?

Me too!

Sadly (OK, not really that sad), I don't like Tyranids...


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 04:04:23


Post by: krusty


Necros wrote:it's going to come with: 3 Warriors, 8 gaunts, 8 hormaguants, 8 gargoyles and a trygon!


for gods sake, gtfo

if theres anything new in this (goyles, raveners, big bugs, etc) ill be getting atleast one...
hive fleet goliath only knows growth, not weakness...


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 04:48:56


Post by: lords2001


The change to battleforces is this -

Basically, they are saying that any battleforce should be 25% off of retail. Which is why in Australia, the Space Wolves were $145 instead of the standard $150.

But if they changed what's in it, it could have been different. So there is no further fixed price.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 07:08:11


Post by: RogueMarket


This is why I'm going to hold onto my nids, and sell em when they are 'worth' more.



TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 07:15:00


Post by: twistinthunder


Necros wrote:it's going to come with: 3 Warriors, 8 gaunts, 8 hormaguants, 8 gargoyles and a trygon!


no new models will be in the battleforce, 24 gaunt/hormagaunts 8 genestealers,3 warriors and a carnifex all for £60, (known this on warseer for awhile).


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 07:16:29


Post by: Aduro


How's that compare to the old one?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 07:17:41


Post by: twistinthunder


BrassScorpion wrote:All Battleforce and Battalion sets in the US were priced at $90 when the Tau Battleforce was released a few years ago, but starting in 2008 with some of the new Battalions like the Empire Battalion last year, the $90 standard price structure for those sets has been discarded. New Battleforce and Battalion sets since 2008 have had various prices as it was before the $90 uniform pricing that existed for the few years before 2008.

Now what's with those prices at The War Store for the December GW releases? They are not the usual 20% off GW's MSRP, but only 10%. Now that's scary. It's probably a mistake since the top of the page still states everything will be 20% off.


105/10 = 10.5

10.5 x 2=21

105-21=84 so it has got 20% off


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Aduro wrote:How's that compare to the old one?


old one + 8 gaunts +£10


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 08:18:47


Post by: warpcrafter


twistinthunder wrote: no new models will be in the battleforce, 24 gaunt/hormagaunts 8 genestealers,3 warriors and a carnifex all for £60, (known this on warseer for awhile).


Known? Warseer? Does not compute...


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 11:54:26


Post by: Sidstyler


Another price increase. How unexpected.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 12:54:39


Post by: UltraPrime


Sidstyler wrote:Another price increase. How unexpected.


Price AND content increase. You can't say it's still not a bargin for what you get.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 13:02:25


Post by: SagesStone


Asherian Command wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!! No i'm kidding but still this is really getting annoying GW. I wish i had a link to what grinds my gears -.- thank you family guy we love you.
But still 105? i can barely afford the battle force as it is. thats going to piss alot of people.




There you go, I used this ages ago


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 14:42:44


Post by: BrassScorpion


twistinthunder wrote:
BrassScorpion wrote:All Battleforce and Battalion sets in the US were priced at $90 when the Tau Battleforce was released a few years ago, but starting in 2008 with some of the new Battalions like the Empire Battalion last year, the $90 standard price structure for those sets has been discarded. New Battleforce and Battalion sets since 2008 have had various prices as it was before the $90 uniform pricing that existed for the few years before 2008.

Now what's with those prices at The War Store for the December GW releases? They are not the usual 20% off GW's MSRP, but only 10%. Now that's scary. It's probably a mistake since the top of the page still states everything will be 20% off.

105/10 = 10.5
10.5 x 2=21
105-21=84 so it has got 20% off
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Aduro wrote:How's that compare to the old one?

old one + 8 gaunts +£10
It wasn't the Tyranid Battleforce discount I was questioning, it was all the other new stuff. I checked back this morning and found this disclaimer text:

NOV/DEC - Splash Limited are items made One Time Only by Games Workshop and they often sell out quickly. Because we often have to purchase these products from secondary suppliers (at higher cost) we can only offer a 10% discount on these items. All items are sold first come, first served and are often allocated so please order early.

Strangely, the Fortress Of Redemption is listed as a splash release. That can't be correct. It's an all new plastic kit and there's no way GW is going to lose money on the molds by only selling it for a limited splash run.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 14:59:17


Post by: Shotgun


BrassScorpion wrote:
Strangely, the Fortress Of Redemption is listed as a splash release. That can't be correct. It's an all new plastic kit and there's no way GW is going to lose money on the molds by only selling it for a limited splash run.


*cough* Space Hulk *cough*


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 15:02:10


Post by: Balance


BrassScorpion wrote:Strangely, the Fortress Of Redemption is listed as a splash release. That can't be correct. It's an all new plastic kit and there's no way GW is going to lose money on the molds by only selling it for a limited splash run.


Maybe it'll get parted out into multiple kits? So the splash release is the whole thing, then it'll be separate 'Chapel of Anger' and a 'Extra Gothy Defenses' kits?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 15:06:27


Post by: BrassScorpion


GW is NOT listing the Fortress of Redemption as a limited or splash item on their website. I think it's an error at The War Store.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 15:16:31


Post by: NAVARRO


Hope its a warstore error... I do want one of those fortress but dont want to have to buy it asap.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 15:57:46


Post by: UltraPrime


Someone over at Warseer emailed GW about the fortress, and was told it is indeed a limited item. I was planning to get after xmas, due to mad spending over next few weeks, but I'm going to have to try to get it sooner.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 20:35:33


Post by: Goliath


krusty wrote:
Necros wrote:it's going to come with: 3 Warriors, 8 gaunts, 8 hormaguants, 8 gargoyles and a trygon!


for gods sake, gtfo

if theres anything new in this (goyles, raveners, big bugs, etc) ill be getting atleast one...
hive fleet goliath only knows growth, not weakness...


I can't remember getting my own Hive Fleet.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 21:05:11


Post by: twistinthunder


UltraPrime wrote:Someone over at Warseer emailed GW about the fortress, and was told it is indeed a limited item. I was planning to get after xmas, due to mad spending over next few weeks, but I'm going to have to try to get it sooner.


really? when was this?

from gw's twitter (voxcaster):

@ZorzMuaddieb The Fortress of Redemption is a permanent addition to the range.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/04 21:18:12


Post by: avantgarde


GW's twitter is the pinnacle of comedy.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/05 05:00:26


Post by: ZacktheChaosChild


GWs prices just get higher and higher, too bad they are the monopoly in my favorite hobby...


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/05 05:04:07


Post by: Kanluwen


Read. The. Thread. Before. Moaning. About. The. Battleforce Prices.

They are moving away from "You get whatever we put in a $90 box" and are moving towards "You get XXXX Points in a Single Box for 5%ish Off".


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/05 14:27:26


Post by: Lorek


Oh, Kanluwen. It wouldn't be a GW-related forum if people didn't needlessly bash prices!

There's a company called Despar, Inc. that makes the opposite of those annoying motivational posters (hit the link to see what they do). Originally they were a motivational consulting firm, but after operating for a while, they did a study about motivation in the workplace. They found that 90% of the people who are unhappy in their job will be unhappy no matter what you do for them. The logical conclusion that they came to was this:




The same applies to GW hobbyists, it seems.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/05 14:34:52


Post by: KingCracker


Lorek wrote:Oh, Kanluwen. It wouldn't be a GW-related forum if people didn't needlessly bash prices!

There's a company called Despar, Inc. that makes the opposite of those annoying motivational posters (hit the link to see what they do). Originally they were a motivational consulting firm, but after operating for a while, they did a study about motivation in the workplace. They found that 90% of the people who are unhappy in their job will be unhappy no matter what you do for them. The logical conclusion that they came to was this:




The same applies to GW hobbyists, it seems.




lol Honestly tho, that is pretty much the truth. Unhappy people naturally bring the rest of the employees down with them. Pretty contagious those lot


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/05 17:17:59


Post by: Balance


ZacktheChaosChild wrote:GWs prices just get higher and higher, too bad they are the monopoly in my favorite hobby...


Have you tried broadening? If you think of your hobby as 'Warhammer" or "Games Workshop Games" that is really, really focused. Move back a step to 'Wargames' and there's a lot of other games out there: Warmachine, Flames of War, Battletech, Heavy Gear Blitz. The main issue is finding other players, but all of these have active communities that will help with that kind of thing.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/05 19:21:31


Post by: Aduro


Balance wrote:
ZacktheChaosChild wrote:GWs prices just get higher and higher, too bad they are the monopoly in my favorite hobby...


Have you tried broadening? If you think of your hobby as 'Warhammer" or "Games Workshop Games" that is really, really focused. Move back a step to 'Wargames' and there's a lot of other games out there: Warmachine, Flames of War, Battletech, Heavy Gear Blitz. The main issue is finding other players, but all of these have active communities that will help with that kind of thing.


And if your concern is price, don't forget to look into Arcane Legions! Dirt Cheap to get into!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/06 03:06:05


Post by: Balance


Aduro wrote:
Balance wrote:
ZacktheChaosChild wrote:GWs prices just get higher and higher, too bad they are the monopoly in my favorite hobby...


Have you tried broadening? If you think of your hobby as 'Warhammer" or "Games Workshop Games" that is really, really focused. Move back a step to 'Wargames' and there's a lot of other games out there: Warmachine, Flames of War, Battletech, Heavy Gear Blitz. The main issue is finding other players, but all of these have active communities that will help with that kind of thing.


And if your concern is price, don't forget to look into Arcane Legions! Dirt Cheap to get into!


Sure! The main thing is to not keep buying a game you don't enjoy!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/06 04:41:44


Post by: Tim the Biovore


*Cough*, What are you talking about? Get back on topic!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/06 19:59:41


Post by: Haunted_Undead


Like the skaven battalion boxed set the tyranid one is staying the same. Just the price is going up. Good move GW


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/06 22:43:03


Post by: reds8n


I would ...."suggest" that people expecting the Tyranid codex on the previously mentioned date would be best advised to perhaps delay their longing for another week or two,


... rest assured it is coming.. and it IS dirty.n


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/06 22:46:41


Post by: Kwosge


^^^^^
first: i hate you for making me do this on my iPhone
second: so it's feb now? Because the only "date" we got for the codex was january. If you ment the box then i don't care. If it's the codex then i'm sad.
3rd: why does my mind think it's comming out on january 4th?

Glad ihave enough gaunts to field 4 full broods and 3 of hormas as well as 4 magnetic fexes and 2 3rd edition ones and about 40 stealers including 12 un made ones ready to be made for the new codex. The only thing i really need is more of is warriors. But only about a box of them. This new codex will mainly be about buying the new models. You heR that GW! You're not getting as much of my money as you thought!

On a side note the w/o # apoc formation is about to be way over priced as well as almost useless. I hope the   price is droped but i know it wont be.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/07 06:46:15


Post by: Sidstyler


Price AND content increase. You can't say it's still not a bargin for what you get.


How do you know there's a content increase? Who the hell told you guys they were reworking the battleforce contents?

So far the only scrap of a rumor we have is a pricetag.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/07 06:55:55


Post by: LunaHound


UltraPrime wrote:
Sidstyler wrote:Another price increase. How unexpected.


Price AND content increase. You can't say it's still not a bargin for what you get.


Yes i can! and i'll say it!.

Its tolerable , but certainly NOT a bargain!



TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/07 07:23:21


Post by: Turbo10k


So there's a new tyranid battleforce, you get 8 more models, at 15 dollars more only. If you pay for the models seperately, you pay more than 15 dollars....stop complaining for once!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/07 07:51:34


Post by: UltraPrime


Turbo10k wrote:So there's a new tyranid battleforce, you get 8 more models, at 15 dollars more only. If you pay for the models seperately, you pay more than 15 dollars....stop complaining for once!


The voice of reason. Thank you.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/07 08:02:56


Post by: The Dreadnote


Discount ≠ bargain


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/07 11:04:54


Post by: Sidstyler


Turbo10k wrote:So there's a new tyranid battleforce, you get 8 more models


Oh, so you've seen the contents then? Care to post up pics of that?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/07 13:12:19


Post by: UltraPrime


Sidstyler wrote:
Turbo10k wrote:So there's a new tyranid battleforce, you get 8 more models


Oh, so you've seen the contents then? Care to post up pics of that?


Maybe he didn't take any pics.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/07 13:15:43


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Just to get slightly tangential for a second, the new Gaunt boxes will be 8 H-Gaunts and 8 T-Gaunts, yet despite being 8 models per box, they'll cost as much as 10 Guardsmen?

Right?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/07 13:28:43


Post by: NAVARRO


H.B.M.C. wrote:Just to get slightly tangential for a second, the new Gaunt boxes will be 8 H-Gaunts and 8 T-Gaunts, yet despite being 8 models per box, they'll cost as much as 10 Guardsmen?

Right?


I dont know but 8 gaunts per box seems way to slim for a swarmy brood...


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/07 23:32:25


Post by: Turbo10k


Necros wrote:it's going to come with: 3 Warriors, 8 gaunts, 8 hormaguants, 8 gargoyles and a trygon!



Thats where I got the information from. Never seen the box = no pics


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/07 23:41:37


Post by: Sidstyler


Maybe he didn't take any pics.


Well...pics or GTFO then.

Sorry, but I find it a tad annoying to get called out for apparently not "reading the thread", when in fact I did and just ignored all the bs people who didn't know were talking out of their ass. Necros doesn't know what the contents are anymore than the rest of us do, in fact I just assumed his post was a joke (trygon in a battleforce? lolz you people believe that?).



TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/07 23:43:41


Post by: JD21290


Trygon for £35
Now we have something to work with

Also, im 100% that the gon will make a debut in the battleforce.

goyles will get a plastic kit (yay?) even though im guessing they will still be nerfed in this dex.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 00:44:49


Post by: avantgarde


Sidstyler wrote:Sorry, but I find it a tad annoying to get called out for apparently not "reading the thread", when in fact I did and just ignored all the bs people who didn't know were talking out of their ass. Necros doesn't know what the contents are anymore than the rest of us do, in fact I just assumed his post was a joke (trygon in a battleforce? lolz you people believe that?).

Dude why are you attacking Necros personally? Just because someone says something that you don't agree doesn't mean they're trolling or joking. That's the worst part about dakka, people just dismiss you as a troll when say something that makes them angry or upset.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 00:48:56


Post by: RustyKnight


H.B.M.C. wrote:Just to get slightly tangential for a second, the new Gaunt boxes will be 8 H-Gaunts and 8 T-Gaunts, yet despite being 8 models per box, they'll cost as much as 10 Guardsmen?

Right?
It's the tails.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 00:49:32


Post by: Sidstyler


Personal attack? That's a bit of a stretch, all I said was he didn't know any more than we did.

Fine, I heard the battleforce will have 24 gaunts, 3 warriors, and 6 raveners. Discuss.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 01:11:47


Post by: avantgarde


Re-read my post, nowhere did I accuse you of making personal attacks.

As for the battleforce, that seems unlikely, GW would never put two of a new kit that isn't troop. It sounds like you just made that up.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 01:55:41


Post by: MilkmanAl


Errr..."Why are you attacking Necros personally?" isn't an accusation of a personal attack. Just sayin'.

I'm actually hoping the battleforce includes a bunch of the mid-sized Tyranids. That'd really make my day, assuming they're usable now. Warriors, Raveners, and maybe a Zoanthrope or Lictor or something fleshed out with Gaunts and Gargoyles. Basically, I hope they replace the Carnifex with mid-sized stuff. That would make my day.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 02:09:09


Post by: Sidstyler


They would never put metal models in battleforces.

As for the battleforce, that seems unlikely, GW would never put two of a new kit that isn't troop.


I think it's a lot more likely than the trygon being included.

It sounds like you just made that up.


Nuh uh! I'm 101% sure those are the contents of the new battleforce! A redshirt told me!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 08:21:40


Post by: Turbo10k


Nice work, sidstyler! You managed to get an inside in GW! At least thats more credible that other sources.

I ask forgiveness from the guy I quoted. I caused him to carry all the blame for me repeating information I acquired from another user without actually being aware of the arrival of a new tyranid battleforce before reading this thread...Necros, maybe this wasn't a personal attack, but just sidstyler being pissed by unworthy sources and unfounded rumours in general?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 08:57:56


Post by: Sidstyler


I'd say a redshirt is actually less credible than random forum guy, personally...

I'll admit that I underestimated the size of the trygon, it's actually smaller than a drop pod by the look of things, but I still don't see them including it in a battleforce. Not unless you can take 6-9 of them in your army anyway, doesn't really make much sense to me.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 11:49:57


Post by: Tim the Biovore


I went down to GW Freo today and mentioned the Toxathrope, Pyrovore and Trygon, he laughed and said 'So much for our secrecy', then walked off.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 12:02:46


Post by: Hawkins


I think GW is trying to bring its prices up to compete wit FW Resin. No joke, they'll be there in only a few years if the price hikes keep going.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 12:03:46


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Yes, their secrecy that isn't working, which makes one wonder why they keep at it...


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 23:17:05


Post by: Turbo10k


Man, this reminds me what Sony did for the PSP Go: the worst kept secret in the world. Oh well, since we now know the box can have so many different things all backed up by sources as credible as one another, I GIVE UP. Who cares what this box contains?! We'll all see it for sure like in less than a month!!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/08 23:20:17


Post by: Cheese Elemental


H.B.M.C. wrote:Yes, their secrecy that isn't working, which makes one wonder why they keep at it...

It's a trap!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/10 09:54:38


Post by: Broken Loose


The worst part of all this secrecy is that I would have been buying new models for the last 4 months straight if I knew which models wouldn't be pure gak in the new codex.

As it stands, I won't be buying any new models until at least a week or so after the codex comes out because I don't want to waste my money.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/10 10:00:44


Post by: Alex Kolodotschko


Have you ever tried buying models because they look nice and have fun fluff?
It's very rewarding.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/10 10:18:54


Post by: reds8n


Cheese Elemental wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:Yes, their secrecy that isn't working, which makes one wonder why they keep at it...

It's a trap!


At times, yes, it is.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/10 12:16:34


Post by: Sidstyler


Alex Kolodotschko wrote:Have you ever tried buying models because they look nice and have fun fluff?
It's very rewarding.


Seems like a waste to me. I don't find worthless/detrimental units "fun" and they would never end up on the table.

I'm also finding it harder and harder to field stuff that just looks cool. What's the point if I lose all my games and said cool model bites it on turn 1 or 2 all the time?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/10 13:25:31


Post by: Cyporiean


Alex Kolodotschko wrote:Have you ever tried buying models because they look nice and have fun fluff?
It's very rewarding.


I'll be doing that with the Trygon if it really does come out in plastic, I don't intend on starting up with Nids, but damn thats a fantastic beast.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/10 16:37:55


Post by: wyomingfox


Lorek wrote:



Hmmm...this would go great in my company's break room...briliant, just plain brilliant


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/10 17:16:54


Post by: warboss


Balance wrote:
ZacktheChaosChild wrote:GWs prices just get higher and higher, too bad they are the monopoly in my favorite hobby...


Have you tried broadening? If you think of your hobby as 'Warhammer" or "Games Workshop Games" that is really, really focused. Move back a step to 'Wargames' and there's a lot of other games out there: Warmachine, Flames of War, Battletech, Heavy Gear Blitz. The main issue is finding other players, but all of these have active communities that will help with that kind of thing.


in a thread complaining about price, i don't think it's a good idea to suggest DP9's heavy gear as a good alternative, lol. 5 metal minis the size of a space marine for $40 USD? that's not saving you anything since gw charges the same for 5 metal minis boxed sets. they might be nice looking but to suggest they're a cheaper alternative per mini is funny.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/10 17:21:08


Post by: Lordhat


So is anybody else completely uninterested in Nids due to a lack of hype/leaks?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/10 17:32:56


Post by: NAVARRO


Lordhat wrote:So is anybody else completely uninterested in Nids due to a lack of hype/leaks?


Not much more to know... you will have plastic gargs, trygon and raveners and some metal new stuff thats good enough for me to keep saving euros for next year.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/11 12:24:22


Post by: ddsa86


This is the original BF box. 1 Carni, 3 Warriors, 8 Horms, 8 Terms, Rippers. It is listed in WD358 page 50 and 51.

Bull


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/11 12:26:38


Post by: H.B.M.C.


The Tyranid Battleforce has (had) a Carnifex, 3 Warriors, 8 H-Gaunts, 8 T-Gaunts and 8 Genestealers (plus two bases of Rippers).

It was actually a really good deal. Picked up three sets of Carnifex torsos back when GW still sold sprues (something they could still do if they had any brains over there), and three battleforces. Kick started my 'Nid army (which was made of mostly 2nd Ed models) quite well.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/12 02:22:00


Post by: Fateweaver


For me the lack of info isn't a big deal. That and GW keeping a lid on things keeps people from knowing the codex 6 weeks early and saying "it sucks, whine, whine, bitch, piss and moan" and not buying it. Apparently how C:CSM *cough SUPPOSEDLY cough* is the worst selling codex of all time (which to this day no one can prove).

If you don't know what's in it until the day it comes out than in theory even if you sell it on ebay for not liking it, GW still gets their money.

But that was way OT so no need to further discuss it.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/14 08:34:12


Post by: Sidstyler


Except the CSM codex genuinely sucked, if they designed that thing with what appears to be their current design philosophy it wouldn't have sold so poorly. It had nothing to do with the info being leaked, it was the fact that the info leaked didn't fill people with confidence.

That's no reason to stop giving us news though, that just means they need to get a clue when designing their books and try not to Jervisify them.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/14 08:39:21


Post by: Aduro


Lordhat wrote:So is anybody else completely uninterested in Nids due to a lack of hype/leaks?


`Nids were my first and favorite army. New book coming out in two months. All I can think about is Tau and Daemons.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/14 08:59:55


Post by: Fateweaver


Sidstyler wrote:Except the CSM codex genuinely sucked, if they designed that thing with what appears to be their current design philosophy it wouldn't have sold so poorly. It had nothing to do with the info being leaked, it was the fact that the info leaked didn't fill people with confidence.

That's no reason to stop giving us news though, that just means they need to get a clue when designing their books and try not to Jervisify them.


That's the point. Nobody can prove it sold so poorly. GW isn't going to admit it sold poorly by giving us a "Top 10 Codex in terms of retail sales" list to peruse and discuss and argue about.

Dakka does not represent the majority (or in fact all) of the 40k players in the world. I am the only one in my group brave enough to post and read Dakka and I can tell you right now there is one other player in my group who likes the newest CSM codex.

Prove to me that for every 1 that likes it 2 hate it. Polls on dakka might show that but again Dakka is NOT home to EVERY 40K CSM PLAYER IN THE WORLD.

Yikes.

Wow, that was so OT.

On topic I don't think it's a huge stretch to expect like 8 plastic gargoyles in the new BF.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/14 10:27:19


Post by: Sidstyler


I kinda wish they'd come in boxes of at least 10, 8 doesn't seem appropriate for a horde army. Actually 10 isn't either, but what are you gonna do...


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/14 10:45:48


Post by: Tim the Biovore


We need gaunts in boxes of 12 or maybe even 16.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/14 10:52:14


Post by: OnTheEdge


Broken Loose wrote:The worst part of all this secrecy is that I would have been buying new models for the last 4 months straight if I knew which models wouldn't be pure gak in the new codex.

As it stands, I won't be buying any new models until at least a week or so after the codex comes out because I don't want to waste my money.


So true, so true, painfully true. I am doing the exact same thing.

//Edge


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/14 11:02:07


Post by: KingCracker


Tim the Biovore wrote:We need gaunts in boxes of 12 or maybe even 16.


But the DO come in boxes of 16

I agree at the very least 10 each would be MUCH better. I mean the guants are a pretty small mini, I very much doubt adding 4 total for the same price will bankrupt the company.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/14 23:03:47


Post by: Turbo10k


Oh so much speculation...lay off on it. Does anyone think that flaming each other about something not on retail YET is gonna give a free sneak-peak into its contents? Or making up "respectable sources" just for the sake of proving a point is gonna advance the release date?

Try and at least respect each other, guys!
Its coming out in 20 days anyway, enough to finish painting your pre-existing 'Nid armies.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/15 00:29:17


Post by: H.B.M.C.


KingCracker wrote:I agree at the very least 10 each would be MUCH better.


They come on sprues of 4 and GW isn't recutting them. So we'll get them in multiples of 4 - either a box of 12 for the same cost as all the other '10-man boxes' like Cadians and Orks, or a box of 8 becuase GW are a spiteful hateful money-grubbing company.

Guess which one is more likely?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/15 00:41:45


Post by: LunaHound


H.B.M.C. wrote:
KingCracker wrote:I agree at the very least 10 each would be MUCH better.


They come on sprues of 4 and GW isn't recutting them. So we'll get them in multiples of 4 - either a box of 12 for the same cost as all the other '10-man boxes' like Cadians and Orks, or a box of 8 becuase GW are a spiteful hateful money-grubbing company.

Guess which one is more likely?


Box of 16 , same as before
This way GW be worshiped as merciful god.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/15 00:50:02


Post by: Railguns


GW cares not for our worship, nor our self debasement; only for our sacrifice.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/15 01:58:16


Post by: Fateweaver


If I could get free minis I'd sacrifice goats (or drug dealers) in the name of GW.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/15 02:20:47


Post by: Sidstyler


GW cares not from where the money flows, only that it does.

But yeah, I know the gaunts come in sprues of 4, I was just saying...personally I hope they do 12 gaunt boxes for the same price as boyz/Cadians as opposed to a measly 8. That's practically a slap in the face, but you know GW will do it anyway...

What's even worse is, what if they make it 4 terms/hormies per box?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/15 02:23:53


Post by: LunaHound


Sidstyler wrote:GW cares not from where the money flows, only that it does.

But yeah, I know the gaunts come in sprues of 4, I was just saying...personally I hope they do 12 gaunt boxes for the same price as boyz/Cadians as opposed to a measly 8. That's practically a slap in the face, but you know GW will do it anyway...

What's even worse is, what if they make it 4 terms/hormies per box?
And they'll throw in 1 ripper swarm base, all for the special price of $19.99


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/15 02:27:52


Post by: Turbo10k


Sidstyler wrote:GW cares not from where the money flows, only that it does.

But yeah, I know the gaunts come in sprues of 4, I was just saying...personally I hope they do 12 gaunt boxes for the same price as boyz/Cadians as opposed to a measly 8. That's practically a slap in the face, but you know GW will do it anyway...

What's even worse is, what if they make it 4 terms/hormies per box?


AAAAAAAAAAArgh! The end of GW!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/15 02:32:00


Post by: Sidstyler


LunaHound wrote:And they'll throw in 1 ripper swarm base, all for the special price of $19.99 $35.75


Fixed.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/15 04:32:50


Post by: Aduro


We'll get boxes of 12 for the same price other armies pay for 10, but we'll no longer get the upgrade/mutations sprue included. That will be a direct order only thing from the online store.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/15 05:14:12


Post by: Quintinus


Sidstyler wrote:
LunaHound wrote:And they'll throw in 1 ripper swarm base, all for the special price of $19.99 $35.75


Fixed.


Sidstyler, I always thought of you as more of a pessimist. You've changed your ways, I see?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/15 06:02:01


Post by: Sidstyler


Yeah, I'm a glass half-full kinda guy.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/16 11:33:59


Post by: Turbo10k


Half-full of what, really.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/16 12:13:10


Post by: HyrbidNecro


RogueMarket wrote:Guys- look at the retail - 105$


Money/Price creep?


$105 isn't that bad if you think about it. Just adding together all that comes in the battalion box for lets say.... Skaven... it adds to $141.00 without taxes if you buy it all individually. Thats a savings I'd take any day even with a little increase in price. AND I haven't even added in tax for myself being in New York so..... I really hate New York taxes....... anyways battalions are usually always a steal.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Sidstyler wrote:GW cares not from where the money flows, only that it does.

But yeah, I know the gaunts come in sprues of 4, I was just saying...personally I hope they do 12 gaunt boxes for the same price as boyz/Cadians as opposed to a measly 8. That's practically a slap in the face, but you know GW will do it anyway...

What's even worse is, what if they make it 4 terms/hormies per box?


I'm on the border myself with the number of models in the kit. 8 would be kind of a bad move on GW especially for an army thats about large numbers (but a price of $22 would be a little easier to swallow I say). I'll just sit back and wait to see what they plan on doing and go from there, I've been wanting to start collecting Nids for a long time and this could be my excuse to start finally.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/16 14:35:49


Post by: Alex Kolodotschko


I reckon that the size of the Gaunt box will be dependent on the minimum unit size in the new codex.
If min unit size is 10+ we'll get boxes of 12.
If min unit size is 5 or 8+ we'll get boxes of 8.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/16 16:19:27


Post by: Railguns


If they come 8 to a $22 box, then expect Gaunts to become pretty rare. That kind of pricing would be criminally high for a small handful of models whose entire purpose is to die, especially when you'll need to use them in units of 20+. Then, Tyranid players will have a core unit that costs 60 dollars before hitting maximim number without even having the decency to be competant killers like Orks. A full squad of Space Marines will still cost $35.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/16 19:56:19


Post by: FlammingGaunt


Its coming out in 20 days anyway, enough to finish painting your pre-existing 'Nid armies.

My 6000 point of nids beg to differ.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/16 20:00:04


Post by: Termagant


Theres not gonna be a trygon in the battleforce!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/16 20:41:11


Post by: CaseyVa


If it's the same content as the current battleforce I'll be happy.

Also, anyone complaining about it going up in price doesn't remember when this box, and the Ogre Kingdoms one, cost something like $120 before they decided to readjust the prices so they all cost $90. It's an instance in which GW lowered prices that everyone seems to want to forget


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/16 23:18:39


Post by: Branderic


When will GW put the new box on their site?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/17 00:20:23


Post by: Warlord Imp


From my tiny experience, I read that the $90 box was a price drop that made all forces affordable when sales were low for certain races/armies. This fixed $90 for battleforces made each army equally affordable. I also read that they will no longer follow the fixed $90 and provide balanced armies and adjusting the price accordingly, thus making the battleforce boxes between $90-120 which what I believe they did in the past. Now, would this result in people buying more Space Marines than Tau Empire? Or more Necron than Orks? In this economy, I think it wouls affect the sales.

I am also excited to see the contents of the new 'nid battleforce box and looking forward to more plastic models. The days are counting down....


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/17 00:43:03


Post by: Ketara


Thank God for those 3 battleforces I just happened to acquire in the SwapShop a month ago.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/17 03:18:29


Post by: Turbo10k


FlammingGaunt wrote:
Its coming out in 20 days anyway, enough to finish painting your pre-existing 'Nid armies.

My 6000 point of nids beg to differ.


Err...paint quickly?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/17 12:24:49


Post by: OnTheEdge


FlammingGaunt wrote:
Its coming out in 20 days anyway, enough to finish painting your pre-existing 'Nid armies.

My 6000 point of nids beg to differ.


Any chance that we could get to see some pics of said army? Must look impressive!

//Edge


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/17 12:38:09


Post by: Tim the Biovore


OnTheEdge wrote:
Broken Loose wrote:The worst part of all this secrecy is that I would have been buying new models for the last 4 months straight if I knew which models wouldn't be pure gak in the new codex.

As it stands, I won't be buying any new models until at least a week or so after the codex comes out because I don't want to waste my money.


So true, so true, painfully true. I am doing the exact same thing.

//Edge


Me too sadly.

Sidstyler wrote:Yeah, I'm a glass half-full kinda guy.


And I'm a bit of a 'Hey, I ordered a cheeseburger' guy.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/17 19:44:13


Post by: FlammingGaunt


FlammingGaunt wrote:
Its coming out in 20 days anyway, enough to finish painting your pre-existing 'Nid armies.


My 6000 point of nids beg to differ.


Any chance that we could get to see some pics of said army? Must look impressive!

//Edge

Maybe but I'm a little ashamed of the fact that mostly are un painted.
Right now I'm having trouble with my computer so it could be awhile b4 I get a photo up.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/18 09:02:31


Post by: Turbo10k


FlammingGaunt wrote:
FlammingGaunt wrote:
Its coming out in 20 days anyway, enough to finish painting your pre-existing 'Nid armies.


My 6000 point of nids beg to differ.


Any chance that we could get to see some pics of said army? Must look impressive!

//Edge

Maybe but I'm a little ashamed of the fact that mostly are un painted.
Right now I'm having trouble with my computer so it could be awhile b4 I get a photo up.


Damn bugs! Hey...bugs...you're a 'Nid player, right? Well, you gotta have SOME experience with bugs then. Let ya sort that out, ok?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/18 11:34:31


Post by: LunaHound


FlammingGaunt wrote:
Maybe but I'm a little ashamed of the fact that mostly are un painted.
Right now I'm having trouble with my computer so it could be awhile b4 I get a photo up.


No need to be ashamed... for all the rainbow color tyranid armies out there,
surely there must be some gray ones...


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/26 20:29:59


Post by: FlammingGaunt


Ok I finally got photos working on my comp. Heres all my nids
(note stompa is there as a point of reference.)

[Thumb - Picture 066.jpg]
[Thumb - Picture 064.jpg]
[Thumb - Picture 062.jpg]
[Thumb - Picture 063.jpg]


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/26 23:37:32


Post by: OnTheEdge


Sweet! Thanks FlammingGaunt! Looks great, lots of bugs!
Can't wait for the dex to come out! I haven't been this exited for an upcoming codex in quite awhile actually...

//Edge


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/28 03:29:02


Post by: Turbo10k


Blurry photos, reflective white background messes up even more the distinction between individual 'nids/colours.

Nice swarming effect when all put together however!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/28 03:32:52


Post by: LunaHound


Whats... the... stompa... supposed to be ? 0_o


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/28 16:16:13


Post by: FlammingGaunt


Stompa there because there's no where else to put it.
Thanks for the comments.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/28 16:54:48


Post by: TBD


So what exactly is coming out December 5th? It sure does not look like anything will.

At the local GW store they told me there is not going to be any Tyranid box coming out in December, and that the release date of the codex, whenever that was supposed to be, has been moved back a couple of weeks because they forgot to print the special rules page(s) in it, and all the books had to be returned to the printer to correct the issue.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/28 22:53:51


Post by: RustyKnight


TBD wrote:So what exactly is coming out December 5th? It sure does not look like anything will.

At the local GW store they told me there is not going to be any Tyranid box coming out in December, and that the release date of the codex, whenever that was supposed to be, has been moved back a couple of weeks because they forgot to print the special rules page(s) in it, and all the books had to be returned to the printer to correct the issue.
This actually sounds inept enough to be true.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/28 23:20:28


Post by: Aduro


Actually, it would imply admitting there was a mistake in the codex and attempting to rectify it, so I call shenanigans.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/28 23:43:51


Post by: UltraPrime


Aduro wrote:Actually, it would imply admitting there was a mistake in the codex and attempting to rectify it, so I call shenanigans.


I heard the same thing. It's not just a summary that was missing, but the full rules. Not much use without them!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/28 23:45:29


Post by: JD21290


Maelstrom has dats for the dex, so it does seem more than possible.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/29 08:47:18


Post by: Schepp himself


I blame the chinese! What, I'm a dickshooter.

This policy of not letting anything slip through discouraged me to get the proper hype on. Even though I play Tyranids and want to buy some... go figure.

Greets
Schepp himself


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/30 13:10:02


Post by: Ouze


If GWS just announced the legion of the damned, which is for release January 2nd, wouldn't the pre-order for the alleged Dec 5th bug battleforce have been on the site for nearly a month? It's still not there.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/30 13:46:43


Post by: pinhead


Has anyone noticed that Hormagaunts and Termagaunts are no longer available for order on the GW website? Technical bug or sign of things changing?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1050152


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/11/30 13:54:01


Post by: Railguns


It's been that way for a couple of weeks now. The site has been under some restructuring, if I recall correctly. Some things were removed and added again later during the process.

It's also a shame that we officially know more about the Space Marines being released in the Tyranid release window than we do about the Tyranids themselves.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/01 03:16:57


Post by: Kokojo


http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1050152 The Gants have been added back up on the website and guess what...




NO SPLITTING!



Sorry never mind.


the site glitched and now it's gone...


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/02 18:54:48


Post by: esternaefil


January Releases for Independent retailers today:

99120106017 Tyranid Battleforce 46 Fig Box 5-Dec-09 $105.00
99060106064 Tyranid Spore Mines 9 Fig Blister 16 Jan-10 $16.50
60030106003 Codex: Tyranids (English)96pp 16-Jan-10 $25.00
99120106016 Tyranid Ravener Brood 3 Fig Box 16-Jan-10 $44.50
99120106018 Tyranid Gargoyle Brood 10 Fig Box 16-Jan-10 $29.00
99120106019 Tyranid Trygon / Mawloc 1 Fig Box 16-Jan-10 $49.50
99110106063 Tyranid Pyrovore 1 Fig Box 16-Jan-10 $33.00
99120106021 Tyranid Termagant Brood 12 Fig Box 12-Dec-09 $24.75
99120106020 Tyranid Hormagaunt Brood 12 Fig Box 12-Dec-09 $24.75
9906010606201 Tyranid Venomthrope 1 Fig Blister 16-Jan-10 $20.00
9906010606101 Tyranid Hive Guard 1 Fig Blister 16-Jan-10 $20.00

--

Do we know what the 46 pieces are in the battleforce?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/02 19:40:31


Post by: Fizyx


3 x Warriors

8x Genestealers

16x Termgaunt

16x Hormagaunt

3x Ripper bases.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/02 19:50:29


Post by: pinhead


Nice to see the Gargoyles have come down in price...

Also nice to be able to buy Hormagaunts and Termagaunts separately...


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/02 19:53:35


Post by: MilkmanAl


I'm a bit disappointed with those Battleforce contents. That's nowhere near as cool as the last one, and it's more expensive. Boo.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/02 21:15:31


Post by: Altimera


There is no way that they're taking the carnifex out of the battleforce box: Doesn't every other race have a vehicle in their battleforce box?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/02 22:08:43


Post by: jimmyjames2112


Tim the Biovore wrote:
OnTheEdge wrote:
Broken Loose wrote:The worst part of all this secrecy is that I would have been buying new models for the last 4 months straight if I knew which models wouldn't be pure gak in the new codex.

As it stands, I won't be buying any new models until at least a week or so after the codex comes out because I don't want to waste my money.


So true, so true, painfully true. I am doing the exact same thing.

//Edge


Same. And i wont be buying the battle force. confirmed contents of BF

http://store.miniwargaming.com/product/warhammer-40k-tyranids-battleforce.html


Automatically Appended Next Post:
http://www.thewarstore.com/z40KTyranids.html

Check out the order list from thewarstore

hive guard? Whhaaat?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/02 23:57:27


Post by: jackvolerich


My local hobby center' manager said that they just shipped a batch of NID battleforce's to the store. Though I am still puzzled no NID battleforce us up on the GW website.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/03 05:27:53


Post by: BrassScorpion


If you're a Tyranid fan, here's some info from The War Store on the Battleforce. Given the source, this is reliable. GW stores are getting these in this week for imminent release on Saturday, Dec. 5. A friend of mine had a peek at one of these earlier tonight when it arrived at our local store. As for it not being on the website, GW has done that before quite recently. The Space Wolf Battleforce never appeared in the Advance Order page, it just went right to the new releases on the appointed date.

From http://www.thewarstore.com/

Tyranids Battleforce Unboxed!!!December 2nd, 2009
There has been some confusion as to what exactly is going to be included in the new ‘nid box.
Well we have one and we opened it up. Here is what it contained:
3 Tyranid Warriors
8 Geanstealers
16 Hormogaunts
16 Termagaunts
3 Ripper Swarms
and 6 gaunt accessory sprues


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/03 05:33:15


Post by: Cryonicleech


Damn...

No more Carnifex...

:(

Still, nice amount of Gaunts. 'Stealers could be a bigger unit, Rippers are meh, Warriors are okay...

It'll probably be $105


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/03 06:20:49


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Really? Just double the Gaunts and cut the 'Fex?

And 6 more accessory sprues. Just what every Tyranid player needs... and has never used...


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/03 06:24:22


Post by: Railguns


The only way you wouldn't be swimming neck deep in extra fiddly biomorph bits (and not a one non-Tyranid player will recognize any of them) would be if you were a fan of using excessive biomorphs on every model. Why yes, I'd like to have S4, I5 WS5 AS 5+ termagants for 12 points per model, thanks.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/03 09:07:49


Post by: Turbo10k


YAY 16 terma...or rather gak cos I play CSM...I'm gonna get swarmed!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/03 13:41:17


Post by: Tyranid Horde


Poor old fexes its a shame they are going.
I could do with a lot more gaunts though....


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/03 14:07:29


Post by: Neith


And to think I picked up a 'Nid battleforce about 2 months ago- so glad I did as the Carnifex was what really sold me on the set.

The new Battleforce isn't bad though- plenty of models and great for new players. It's just a shame the money saved isn't as much (especially if the price will be more?)


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/03 14:20:57


Post by: NAVARRO


Come on, they could put some gargs instead so many gaunts and some ravs instead warriors.
Its basicly the oldest deal with current stealers.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/03 16:39:52


Post by: Warlord Imp


For those looking for the new Nid Pics...Clicky-Clicky!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/03 16:43:06


Post by: OnTheEdge


Well that just *generic curse word*! Gonna miss the fex...

//Edge


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/03 22:32:31


Post by: H.B.M.C.


I've never used a single 'toxin sac' in my life. I'm sure I could fill a swimming pool with the ones I have spare.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 09:03:40


Post by: reds8n


Thanks to Mr. Dragonpup from Warseer...


[Thumb - BF_Back.JPG]


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 09:07:51


Post by: Turbo10k


A new low for GW...wall not that much. After very high hopes, our wishes have been foregone and dashed to oblivion.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 09:21:51


Post by: LunaHound


Turbo10k wrote:A new low for GW...wall not that much. After very high hopes, our wishes have been foregone and dashed to oblivion.

So 16 more gaunts in place of carnifex?
Well you never know... maybe they'll drop carnifex down to $35 so the value might be equal... (GW , im thinking positive!)


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 09:32:45


Post by: Alex Kolodotschko


Shows 16 adrenal glands on the hormies.
Only Fborers on the gaunts??????
Do we think that sfists/devs will be sold on a seperate sprue or in the box?
Also no stealer biomorphs shown????

Just checked, and this is the same as the back of the current/oop box, so it might mean nothing.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 09:33:40


Post by: LunaHound


Alex Kolodotschko wrote:Shows 16 adrenal glands on the hormies.
Only Fborers on the gaunts??????
Do we think that sfists/devs will be sold on a seperate sprue or in the box?
Also no stealer biomorphs shown????

Im sure they are included


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 09:38:05


Post by: Cheese Elemental


Well maybe the codex is going to be more about hordes than Big Bug Spam, like it should be. Tyranids are a relentless tide of aliens that sweep across the landscape, running down everything in their path, not an elite force.

Which explains the extra Gaunts in the battleforce. I'll buy one for sure, because hordes are fun.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 09:43:34


Post by: LunaHound


Cheese Elemental wrote:Well maybe the codex is going to be more about hordes than Big Bug Spam, like it should be. Tyranids are a relentless tide of aliens that sweep across the landscape, running down everything in their path, not an elite force.
Which explains the extra Gaunts in the battleforce. I'll buy one for sure, because hordes are fun.

Im so tempted to strangle you across the internet for saying that...

Just so you know the "extra" gaunt , and the dissapearing "carnifex" , this new battle force is worth $10 less than the previous one.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 09:48:54


Post by: Alex Kolodotschko


It was bound to happen though.
The nid bforce used to be one of the best value out there.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 09:52:08


Post by: LunaHound


Alex Kolodotschko wrote:It was bound to happen though.
The nid bforce used to be one of the best value out there.

I hope this doesnt turn into a new GW trend...
Skaven battle force getting price "adjusted" , and Tyranid contents goes down


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 10:01:41


Post by: Cheese Elemental


You don't have to buy it.

And if you do, you can order from Maelstrom or the Warstore.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 13:11:40


Post by: avantgarde


Buying a cup doesn't make getting kicked in the crotch magically ok.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 13:23:58


Post by: Altimera


avantgarde wrote:Buying a cup doesn't make getting kicked in the crotch magically ok.


Yeah, but nothing goes "pop" anymore

Anyway...anyone else notice that the ripper swarm isn't shown on the back, but they have a number for it (5)?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 14:07:28


Post by: Soup and a roll


H.B.M.C. wrote:I've never used a single 'toxin sac' in my life. I'm sure I could fill a swimming pool with the ones I have spare.


Stick them on your ripper bases like weird slugs with big eyes. Adds to the 'swarm' look. Do it!


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 15:32:42


Post by: Schepp himself


Yawn...I was saving my money for the battleforce to get shiny new models. Raveners and Trygon for example. Especially because I don't know what will be good in the new codex...

Greets
Schepp himself


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 19:15:34


Post by: TBD


Very lame battleforce Imo.

So what are the chances the Trygon has an open maw and its tongue sticking out just like about every single Tyranid model?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 19:20:40


Post by: JohnHwangDD


Railguns wrote:The only way you wouldn't be swimming neck deep in extra fiddly biomorph bits (and not a one non-Tyranid player will recognize any of them) would be if you were a fan of using excessive biomorphs on every model. Why yes, I'd like to have S4, I5 WS5 AS 5+ termagants for 12 points per model, thanks.

Don't worry, GW will probably only allow ONE biomorph per unit now, so you'll have lots of little bitz again...
____

LunaHound wrote:So 16 more gaunts in place of carnifex?
Well you never know... maybe they'll drop carnifex down to $35 so the value might be equal...

Silly girl, GW will *RAISE* the Gaunt box price so the value will be better!

LunaHound wrote:Just so you know the "extra" gaunt , and the dissapearing "carnifex" , this new battle force is worth $10 less than the previous one.

With 6 extra Biomorph sprues retailing for $8.25 each, that's an extra $50 worth of stuff. So really, the new Battleforce is at least $40 more than the previous one.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 19:30:33


Post by: Zid


mm... nids look basically the same other than the new models. Kinda disappointing really.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 19:32:05


Post by: JohnHwangDD


What's maddening is that GW has chosen one of the worst paint jobs possible for their showcase Nids. What was wrong with updating the nice brown / black / yellow scheme in the 4E rulebook?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 19:40:53


Post by: Branderic


I don't mind the missing Carnifex since I already have 6. This set is a great way to get rank and file troops. Does it come with enough talons for Genestealers and Hormagaunts?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 19:44:28


Post by: FlammingGaunt


I have 4 carnifexes I really don't think I need another then again I have over a 100 gaunts and hormagaunts so I guess I'm just saving for the new bugs :p


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 20:07:39


Post by: Aduro


Branderic wrote:I don't mind the missing Carnifex since I already have 6. This set is a great way to get rank and file troops. Does it come with enough talons for Genestealers and Hormagaunts?


Genestealers come with enough of their own talons for themselves, and I would Hope the newly cut Hormagaunts come with enough talons for themselves as well, so I'll say yes.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 21:35:48


Post by: RustyKnight


Cheese Elemental wrote:Well maybe the codex is going to be more about hordes than Big Bug Spam, like it should be. Tyranids are a relentless tide of aliens that sweep across the landscape, running down everything in their path, not an elite force.

Which explains the extra Gaunts in the battleforce. I'll buy one for sure, because hordes are fun.
You do know that Warriors as troops has been a fairly persistent rumor for quite a while now. Plus with the Trygon coming, I doubt we'll see a sudden disappearance of monster mash.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 21:40:59


Post by: LunaHound


JohnHwangDD wrote:With 6 extra Biomorph sprues retailing for $8.25 each, that's an extra $50 worth of stuff. So really, the new Battleforce is at least $40 more than the previous one.
Extra biomorph sprue? what do you mean ? the previous gaunts have them as well


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 21:45:21


Post by: BrookM


On the GW site:





TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 21:52:31


Post by: LunaHound


Thats a rather misleading battle force cover -_-
( makes me wonder if taking the carnifex out was a last minute decision )
customer: "aww they took out the carnifex? from the battle force? "
red shirt: " what are you talking about? there is a giant one right on the box! "


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 21:55:04


Post by: JohnHwangDD


@Luna: How many biomorph sprues did they give before? Isn't this a net increase in sprues?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 21:56:21


Post by: LunaHound


JohnHwangDD wrote:@Luna: How many biomorph sprues did they give before? Isn't this a net increase in sprues?

Not sure , but right now i have close to 20 sprue worth of unused biomorphs. ( thus it boggles my mind for *extra* biomorphs needed )
And im 100% sure it came with enough biomorph + weapons to fit them to any variant.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 22:06:52


Post by: kirsanth


The necron Battleforce shows a Monolith, no?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 23:07:18


Post by: kill dem stunties


saving a little bit in a battleforce increase is hardly a bargain compared ot ordering everything indiviudally at 30% off retail and svaing a lot more ....


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/04 23:09:11


Post by: Aduro


Except you can order the Battleforce FROM the people who give you8 the 20% off discounts. Plus it's nice for the freaks like me who buy locally.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/06 06:46:41


Post by: Turbo10k


YAY local products save the planet...and make planetary invasion cost $20 more.

*Sir, we have run into technical difficulties. We are of funds...Yes, local products only. Yes, 20% off. Umm...no carnifex..*


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/06 06:49:29


Post by: LunaHound


kill dem stunties wrote:saving a little bit in a battleforce increase is hardly a bargain compared ot ordering everything indiviudally at 30% off retail and svaing a lot more ....

Battle Forces are NOT direct / online only items.

They are available like everything else , with the same discount ontop of their already bundled prices.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/07 13:12:31


Post by: Thorheim


Turbo10k wrote:A new low for GW...wall not that much. After very high hopes, our wishes have been foregone and dashed to oblivion.

Well, getting a Carnifex in the old was quite good, but it's very nice that now you can get almost full groups of Terma and horma from a box instead of needing to buy 2 boxes to get 16 termas :S
Since battleforces are actualy suppose to be fillers and starters of an army.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/09 03:32:35


Post by: ShotgunFacelift


avantgarde wrote:I will be getting this for my birfday and putting it together drunk.




Ditto, might fall asleep midway through assembly too


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/12 01:17:25


Post by: Turbo10k


Yay drunk assembly! My horms have glands and carnifex head! My tyrant guard have legs for arms! RAWR!

*Dear Incompetent Norn Queen, you have disgraced yourself under the influence of alcohol by disassembling precious vital DNA codes*


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/12 01:39:11


Post by: Squig_herder


The battel force is actually good value if you read whats in it. No carnifex though.

If you look of the website they have all the new nids up for pre-order with a picture of each and price. And stats on some of the current models, I wonder if they will change that on the 16th?


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/12 08:02:24


Post by: warpcrafter


The cover of the battleforce box is the codex cover, so they probably just slapped it on there because they didn't have anything else. Or perhaps the rumors of a Carnifex nerf is true, and they knew people would want the Genestealers more.


TYRANID BATTLEFORCE BOX-----DEC 5 @ 2009/12/12 08:10:24


Post by: Tacobake


No Carni in battleforce == FAIL for GW

What do you get, more Genestealers. gay.

I wonder if The Red Terror will be in the book.

They better have pretty sweet rules if the Carni has been taken out of the Battleforce. Of course with all the new Heavy maybe people don't care about Carnis anymore.