I was on the war store and for the sneak peak for new games workshop stuff it said on December 5 there coming out with a Tryanid Battleforce. Here is the link to the page

http://www.thewarstore.com/GWNewReleasesAdvancedOrders.html

I don't play Tryanids but for those who do, I hope it has what you want in it.

Woohoo!

Nice spotting. I wonder what's going be in it?
Now I have an excuse to buy more Tyranids.

Sweet! It's preorder time!

...from a store that's cheaper, offers free shipping, and ships at top speed.

I will be getting this for my birfday and putting it together drunk.

Not much given away regarding content is there. Oh well, Skaven are going to keep me amused for the time being, so no new Nids for me regardless.

That's my birthday!

Cheese Elemental wrote:Sweet! It's preorder time!

...from a store that's cheaper, offers free shipping, and ships at top speed.

Fixed your embedded url

it's going to come with: 3 Warriors, 8 gaunts, 8 hormaguants, 8 gargoyles and a trygon!

How do you know? and isnt the trygon for apocalypse? :confused: :S do you mean carnifex or something (not a 'nid player so correct me on names etc)

Kanluwen wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:Sweet! It's preorder time!

...from a store that's cheaper, offers free shipping, and ships at top speed.

Fixed your embedded url

Ahahahahahaha!

I've heard some weird stuff about the new battleforce for instance I read on Warpshadow there are 49 models in the box and Warseer said that there won't be any new models.

I don't think anyone knows what's going on.

I doubt there would be new models in the battleforce as they would be unusable until January when new rules came out.

I could see it if GW included the codex but we know that won't happen so I'm sure it's just current BF repackaged.

it's a re-release of the current (run out) Battleforce
Nothing new

Guys- look at the retail - 105$


Money/Price creep?

Necros wrote:it's going to come with: 3 Warriors, 8 gaunts, 8 hormaguants, 8 gargoyles and a trygon!

I'll take three!

RogueMarket wrote:Guys- look at the retail - 105$


Money/Price creep?

I'm not that familiar with US prices but the Skaven Battalion in the UK costs 10% more than the older ones.

They're supposedly moving away from sticking to $90(or equivalent) prices--and moving more towards having the battleforces being force equivalents.

Skaven battalion listed as $105 as well.

GW price increase once again.

All Battleforce and Battalion sets in the US were priced at $90 when the Tau Battleforce was released a few years ago, but starting in 2008 with some of the new Battalions like the Empire Battalion last year, the $90 standard price structure for those sets has been discarded. New Battleforce and Battalion sets since 2008 have had various prices as it was before the $90 uniform pricing that existed for the few years before 2008.

Now what's with those prices at The War Store for the December GW releases? They are not the usual 20% off GW's MSRP, but only 10%. Now that's scary. It's probably a mistake since the top of the page still states everything will be 20% off.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!! No i'm kidding but still this is really getting annoying GW. I wish i had a link to what grinds my gears -.- thank you family guy we love you.
But still 105? i can barely afford the battle force as it is. thats going to piss alot of people.

Details, please!

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:That's my birthday!

What?!?

Me too!

Sadly (OK, not really that sad), I don't like Tyranids...

Necros wrote:it's going to come with: 3 Warriors, 8 gaunts, 8 hormaguants, 8 gargoyles and a trygon!

for gods sake, gtfo

if theres anything new in this (goyles, raveners, big bugs, etc) ill be getting atleast one...
hive fleet goliath only knows growth, not weakness...

The change to battleforces is this -

Basically, they are saying that any battleforce should be 25% off of retail. Which is why in Australia, the Space Wolves were $145 instead of the standard $150.

But if they changed what's in it, it could have been different. So there is no further fixed price.

This is why I'm going to hold onto my nids, and sell em when they are 'worth' more.

Necros wrote:it's going to come with: 3 Warriors, 8 gaunts, 8 hormaguants, 8 gargoyles and a trygon!

no new models will be in the battleforce, 24 gaunt/hormagaunts 8 genestealers,3 warriors and a carnifex all for £60, (known this on warseer for awhile).

How's that compare to the old one?

BrassScorpion wrote:All Battleforce and Battalion sets in the US were priced at $90 when the Tau Battleforce was released a few years ago, but starting in 2008 with some of the new Battalions like the Empire Battalion last year, the $90 standard price structure for those sets has been discarded. New Battleforce and Battalion sets since 2008 have had various prices as it was before the $90 uniform pricing that existed for the few years before 2008.

Now what's with those prices at The War Store for the December GW releases? They are not the usual 20% off GW's MSRP, but only 10%. Now that's scary. It's probably a mistake since the top of the page still states everything will be 20% off.

105/10 = 10.5

10.5 x 2=21

105-21=84 so it has got 20% off


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Aduro wrote:How's that compare to the old one?

old one + 8 gaunts +£10

twistinthunder wrote: no new models will be in the battleforce, 24 gaunt/hormagaunts 8 genestealers,3 warriors and a carnifex all for £60, (known this on warseer for awhile).

Known? Warseer? Does not compute...

Another price increase. How unexpected.

Sidstyler wrote:Another price increase. How unexpected.

Price AND content increase. You can't say it's still not a bargin for what you get.

Asherian Command wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!! No i'm kidding but still this is really getting annoying GW. I wish i had a link to what grinds my gears -.- thank you family guy we love you.
But still 105? i can barely afford the battle force as it is. thats going to piss alot of people.

There you go, I used this ages ago

twistinthunder wrote:

BrassScorpion wrote:All Battleforce and Battalion sets in the US were priced at $90 when the Tau Battleforce was released a few years ago, but starting in 2008 with some of the new Battalions like the Empire Battalion last year, the $90 standard price structure for those sets has been discarded. New Battleforce and Battalion sets since 2008 have had various prices as it was before the $90 uniform pricing that existed for the few years before 2008.

Now what's with those prices at The War Store for the December GW releases? They are not the usual 20% off GW's MSRP, but only 10%. Now that's scary. It's probably a mistake since the top of the page still states everything will be 20% off.

105/10 = 10.5
10.5 x 2=21
105-21=84 so it has got 20% off
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Aduro wrote:How's that compare to the old one?

old one + 8 gaunts +£10

It wasn't the Tyranid Battleforce discount I was questioning, it was all the other new stuff. I checked back this morning and found this disclaimer text:

NOV/DEC - Splash Limited are items made One Time Only by Games Workshop and they often sell out quickly. Because we often have to purchase these products from secondary suppliers (at higher cost) we can only offer a 10% discount on these items. All items are sold first come, first served and are often allocated so please order early.

Strangely, the Fortress Of Redemption is listed as a splash release. That can't be correct. It's an all new plastic kit and there's no way GW is going to lose money on the molds by only selling it for a limited splash run.

BrassScorpion wrote:
Strangely, the Fortress Of Redemption is listed as a splash release. That can't be correct. It's an all new plastic kit and there's no way GW is going to lose money on the molds by only selling it for a limited splash run.

*cough* Space Hulk *cough*

BrassScorpion wrote:Strangely, the Fortress Of Redemption is listed as a splash release. That can't be correct. It's an all new plastic kit and there's no way GW is going to lose money on the molds by only selling it for a limited splash run.

Maybe it'll get parted out into multiple kits? So the splash release is the whole thing, then it'll be separate 'Chapel of Anger' and a 'Extra Gothy Defenses' kits?

GW is NOT listing the Fortress of Redemption as a limited or splash item on their website. I think it's an error at The War Store.

Hope its a warstore error... I do want one of those fortress but dont want to have to buy it asap.

Someone over at Warseer emailed GW about the fortress, and was told it is indeed a limited item. I was planning to get after xmas, due to mad spending over next few weeks, but I'm going to have to try to get it sooner.

krusty wrote:

Necros wrote:it's going to come with: 3 Warriors, 8 gaunts, 8 hormaguants, 8 gargoyles and a trygon!

for gods sake, gtfo

if theres anything new in this (goyles, raveners, big bugs, etc) ill be getting atleast one...
hive fleet goliath only knows growth, not weakness...

I can't remember getting my own Hive Fleet.

UltraPrime wrote:Someone over at Warseer emailed GW about the fortress, and was told it is indeed a limited item. I was planning to get after xmas, due to mad spending over next few weeks, but I'm going to have to try to get it sooner.

really? when was this?

from gw's twitter (voxcaster):

@ZorzMuaddieb The Fortress of Redemption is a permanent addition to the range.

GW's twitter is the pinnacle of comedy.

GWs prices just get higher and higher, too bad they are the monopoly in my favorite hobby...

Read. The. Thread. Before. Moaning. About. The. Battleforce Prices.

They are moving away from "You get whatever we put in a $90 box" and are moving towards "You get XXXX Points in a Single Box for 5%ish Off".

Oh, Kanluwen. It wouldn't be a GW-related forum if people didn't needlessly bash prices!

There's a company called Despar, Inc. that makes the opposite of those annoying motivational posters (hit the link to see what they do). Originally they were a motivational consulting firm, but after operating for a while, they did a study about motivation in the workplace. They found that 90% of the people who are unhappy in their job will be unhappy no matter what you do for them. The logical conclusion that they came to was this:




The same applies to GW hobbyists, it seems.

Lorek wrote:Oh, Kanluwen. It wouldn't be a GW-related forum if people didn't needlessly bash prices!

There's a company called Despar, Inc. that makes the opposite of those annoying motivational posters (hit the link to see what they do). Originally they were a motivational consulting firm, but after operating for a while, they did a study about motivation in the workplace. They found that 90% of the people who are unhappy in their job will be unhappy no matter what you do for them. The logical conclusion that they came to was this:




The same applies to GW hobbyists, it seems.

lol Honestly tho, that is pretty much the truth. Unhappy people naturally bring the rest of the employees down with them. Pretty contagious those lot

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:GWs prices just get higher and higher, too bad they are the monopoly in my favorite hobby...

Have you tried broadening? If you think of your hobby as 'Warhammer" or "Games Workshop Games" that is really, really focused. Move back a step to 'Wargames' and there's a lot of other games out there: Warmachine, Flames of War, Battletech, Heavy Gear Blitz. The main issue is finding other players, but all of these have active communities that will help with that kind of thing.

Balance wrote:

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:GWs prices just get higher and higher, too bad they are the monopoly in my favorite hobby...

Have you tried broadening? If you think of your hobby as 'Warhammer" or "Games Workshop Games" that is really, really focused. Move back a step to 'Wargames' and there's a lot of other games out there: Warmachine, Flames of War, Battletech, Heavy Gear Blitz. The main issue is finding other players, but all of these have active communities that will help with that kind of thing.

And if your concern is price, don't forget to look into Arcane Legions! Dirt Cheap to get into!

Aduro wrote:

Balance wrote:

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:GWs prices just get higher and higher, too bad they are the monopoly in my favorite hobby...

Have you tried broadening? If you think of your hobby as 'Warhammer" or "Games Workshop Games" that is really, really focused. Move back a step to 'Wargames' and there's a lot of other games out there: Warmachine, Flames of War, Battletech, Heavy Gear Blitz. The main issue is finding other players, but all of these have active communities that will help with that kind of thing.

And if your concern is price, don't forget to look into Arcane Legions! Dirt Cheap to get into!

Sure! The main thing is to not keep buying a game you don't enjoy!

*Cough*, What are you talking about? Get back on topic!

Like the skaven battalion boxed set the tyranid one is staying the same. Just the price is going up. Good move GW

I would ...."suggest" that people expecting the Tyranid codex on the previously mentioned date would be best advised to perhaps delay their longing for another week or two,


... rest assured it is coming.. and it IS dirty.n

^^^^^
first: i hate you for making me do this on my iPhone
second: so it's feb now? Because the only "date" we got for the codex was january. If you ment the box then i don't care. If it's the codex then i'm sad.
3rd: why does my mind think it's comming out on january 4th?

Glad ihave enough gaunts to field 4 full broods and 3 of hormas as well as 4 magnetic fexes and 2 3rd edition ones and about 40 stealers including 12 un made ones ready to be made for the new codex. The only thing i really need is more of is warriors. But only about a box of them. This new codex will mainly be about buying the new models. You heR that GW! You're not getting as much of my money as you thought!

On a side note the w/o # apoc formation is about to be way over priced as well as almost useless. I hope the   price is droped but i know it wont be.

Price AND content increase. You can't say it's still not a bargin for what you get.

How do you know there's a content increase? Who the hell told you guys they were reworking the battleforce contents?

So far the only scrap of a rumor we have is a pricetag.

UltraPrime wrote:

Sidstyler wrote:Another price increase. How unexpected.

Price AND content increase. You can't say it's still not a bargin for what you get.

Yes i can! and i'll say it!.

Its tolerable , but certainly NOT a bargain!

So there's a new tyranid battleforce, you get 8 more models, at 15 dollars more only. If you pay for the models seperately, you pay more than 15 dollars....stop complaining for once!

Turbo10k wrote:So there's a new tyranid battleforce, you get 8 more models, at 15 dollars more only. If you pay for the models seperately, you pay more than 15 dollars....stop complaining for once!

The voice of reason. Thank you.

Discount ≠ bargain

Turbo10k wrote:So there's a new tyranid battleforce, you get 8 more models

Oh, so you've seen the contents then? Care to post up pics of that?

Sidstyler wrote:

Turbo10k wrote:So there's a new tyranid battleforce, you get 8 more models

Oh, so you've seen the contents then? Care to post up pics of that?

Maybe he didn't take any pics.

Just to get slightly tangential for a second, the new Gaunt boxes will be 8 H-Gaunts and 8 T-Gaunts, yet despite being 8 models per box, they'll cost as much as 10 Guardsmen?

Right?

H.B.M.C. wrote:Just to get slightly tangential for a second, the new Gaunt boxes will be 8 H-Gaunts and 8 T-Gaunts, yet despite being 8 models per box, they'll cost as much as 10 Guardsmen?

Right?

I dont know but 8 gaunts per box seems way to slim for a swarmy brood...

Necros wrote:it's going to come with: 3 Warriors, 8 gaunts, 8 hormaguants, 8 gargoyles and a trygon!

Thats where I got the information from. Never seen the box = no pics

Maybe he didn't take any pics.

Well...pics or GTFO then.

Sorry, but I find it a tad annoying to get called out for apparently not "reading the thread", when in fact I did and just ignored all the bs people who didn't know were talking out of their ass. Necros doesn't know what the contents are anymore than the rest of us do, in fact I just assumed his post was a joke (trygon in a battleforce? lolz you people believe that?).

Trygon for £35
Now we have something to work with

Also, im 100% that the gon will make a debut in the battleforce.

goyles will get a plastic kit (yay?) even though im guessing they will still be nerfed in this dex.

Sidstyler wrote:Sorry, but I find it a tad annoying to get called out for apparently not "reading the thread", when in fact I did and just ignored all the bs people who didn't know were talking out of their ass. Necros doesn't know what the contents are anymore than the rest of us do, in fact I just assumed his post was a joke (trygon in a battleforce? lolz you people believe that?).

Dude why are you attacking Necros personally? Just because someone says something that you don't agree doesn't mean they're trolling or joking. That's the worst part about dakka, people just dismiss you as a troll when say something that makes them angry or upset.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Just to get slightly tangential for a second, the new Gaunt boxes will be 8 H-Gaunts and 8 T-Gaunts, yet despite being 8 models per box, they'll cost as much as 10 Guardsmen?

Right?

It's the tails.

Personal attack? That's a bit of a stretch, all I said was he didn't know any more than we did.

Fine, I heard the battleforce will have 24 gaunts, 3 warriors, and 6 raveners. Discuss.

Re-read my post, nowhere did I accuse you of making personal attacks.

As for the battleforce, that seems unlikely, GW would never put two of a new kit that isn't troop. It sounds like you just made that up.

Errr..."Why are you attacking Necros personally?" isn't an accusation of a personal attack. Just sayin'.

I'm actually hoping the battleforce includes a bunch of the mid-sized Tyranids. That'd really make my day, assuming they're usable now. Warriors, Raveners, and maybe a Zoanthrope or Lictor or something fleshed out with Gaunts and Gargoyles. Basically, I hope they replace the Carnifex with mid-sized stuff. That would make my day.

They would never put metal models in battleforces.

As for the battleforce, that seems unlikely, GW would never put two of a new kit that isn't troop.

I think it's a lot more likely than the trygon being included.

It sounds like you just made that up.

Nuh uh! I'm 101% sure those are the contents of the new battleforce! A redshirt told me!

Nice work, sidstyler! You managed to get an inside in GW! At least thats more credible that other sources.

I ask forgiveness from the guy I quoted. I caused him to carry all the blame for me repeating information I acquired from another user without actually being aware of the arrival of a new tyranid battleforce before reading this thread...Necros, maybe this wasn't a personal attack, but just sidstyler being pissed by unworthy sources and unfounded rumours in general?

I'd say a redshirt is actually less credible than random forum guy, personally...

I'll admit that I underestimated the size of the trygon, it's actually smaller than a drop pod by the look of things, but I still don't see them including it in a battleforce. Not unless you can take 6-9 of them in your army anyway, doesn't really make much sense to me.

I went down to GW Freo today and mentioned the Toxathrope, Pyrovore and Trygon, he laughed and said 'So much for our secrecy', then walked off.

I think GW is trying to bring its prices up to compete wit FW Resin. No joke, they'll be there in only a few years if the price hikes keep going.

Yes, their secrecy that isn't working, which makes one wonder why they keep at it...

Man, this reminds me what Sony did for the PSP Go: the worst kept secret in the world. Oh well, since we now know the box can have so many different things all backed up by sources as credible as one another, I GIVE UP. Who cares what this box contains?! We'll all see it for sure like in less than a month!!

H.B.M.C. wrote:Yes, their secrecy that isn't working, which makes one wonder why they keep at it...

It's a trap!

The worst part of all this secrecy is that I would have been buying new models for the last 4 months straight if I knew which models wouldn't be pure gak in the new codex.

As it stands, I won't be buying any new models until at least a week or so after the codex comes out because I don't want to waste my money.

Have you ever tried buying models because they look nice and have fun fluff?
It's very rewarding.

Cheese Elemental wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Yes, their secrecy that isn't working, which makes one wonder why they keep at it...

It's a trap!

At times, yes, it is.

Alex Kolodotschko wrote:Have you ever tried buying models because they look nice and have fun fluff?
It's very rewarding.

Seems like a waste to me. I don't find worthless/detrimental units "fun" and they would never end up on the table.

I'm also finding it harder and harder to field stuff that just looks cool. What's the point if I lose all my games and said cool model bites it on turn 1 or 2 all the time?

Alex Kolodotschko wrote:Have you ever tried buying models because they look nice and have fun fluff?
It's very rewarding.

I'll be doing that with the Trygon if it really does come out in plastic, I don't intend on starting up with Nids, but damn thats a fantastic beast.

Lorek wrote:

Hmmm...this would go great in my company's break room...briliant, just plain brilliant

Balance wrote:

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:GWs prices just get higher and higher, too bad they are the monopoly in my favorite hobby...

Have you tried broadening? If you think of your hobby as 'Warhammer" or "Games Workshop Games" that is really, really focused. Move back a step to 'Wargames' and there's a lot of other games out there: Warmachine, Flames of War, Battletech, Heavy Gear Blitz. The main issue is finding other players, but all of these have active communities that will help with that kind of thing.

in a thread complaining about price, i don't think it's a good idea to suggest DP9's heavy gear as a good alternative, lol. 5 metal minis the size of a space marine for $40 USD? that's not saving you anything since gw charges the same for 5 metal minis boxed sets. they might be nice looking but to suggest they're a cheaper alternative per mini is funny.

So is anybody else completely uninterested in Nids due to a lack of hype/leaks?

Lordhat wrote:So is anybody else completely uninterested in Nids due to a lack of hype/leaks?

Not much more to know... you will have plastic gargs, trygon and raveners and some metal new stuff thats good enough for me to keep saving euros for next year.

This is the original BF box. 1 Carni, 3 Warriors, 8 Horms, 8 Terms, Rippers. It is listed in WD358 page 50 and 51.

Bull

The Tyranid Battleforce has (had) a Carnifex, 3 Warriors, 8 H-Gaunts, 8 T-Gaunts and 8 Genestealers (plus two bases of Rippers).

It was actually a really good deal. Picked up three sets of Carnifex torsos back when GW still sold sprues (something they could still do if they had any brains over there), and three battleforces. Kick started my 'Nid army (which was made of mostly 2nd Ed models) quite well.

For me the lack of info isn't a big deal. That and GW keeping a lid on things keeps people from knowing the codex 6 weeks early and saying "it sucks, whine, whine, bitch, piss and moan" and not buying it. Apparently how C:CSM *cough SUPPOSEDLY cough* is the worst selling codex of all time (which to this day no one can prove).

If you don't know what's in it until the day it comes out than in theory even if you sell it on ebay for not liking it, GW still gets their money.

But that was way OT so no need to further discuss it.

Except the CSM codex genuinely sucked, if they designed that thing with what appears to be their current design philosophy it wouldn't have sold so poorly. It had nothing to do with the info being leaked, it was the fact that the info leaked didn't fill people with confidence.

That's no reason to stop giving us news though, that just means they need to get a clue when designing their books and try not to Jervisify them.

Lordhat wrote:So is anybody else completely uninterested in Nids due to a lack of hype/leaks?

`Nids were my first and favorite army. New book coming out in two months. All I can think about is Tau and Daemons.

Sidstyler wrote:Except the CSM codex genuinely sucked, if they designed that thing with what appears to be their current design philosophy it wouldn't have sold so poorly. It had nothing to do with the info being leaked, it was the fact that the info leaked didn't fill people with confidence.

That's no reason to stop giving us news though, that just means they need to get a clue when designing their books and try not to Jervisify them.

That's the point. Nobody can prove it sold so poorly. GW isn't going to admit it sold poorly by giving us a "Top 10 Codex in terms of retail sales" list to peruse and discuss and argue about.

Dakka does not represent the majority (or in fact all) of the 40k players in the world. I am the only one in my group brave enough to post and read Dakka and I can tell you right now there is one other player in my group who likes the newest CSM codex.

Prove to me that for every 1 that likes it 2 hate it. Polls on dakka might show that but again Dakka is NOT home to EVERY 40K CSM PLAYER IN THE WORLD.

Yikes.

Wow, that was so OT.

On topic I don't think it's a huge stretch to expect like 8 plastic gargoyles in the new BF.

I kinda wish they'd come in boxes of at least 10, 8 doesn't seem appropriate for a horde army. Actually 10 isn't either, but what are you gonna do...

We need gaunts in boxes of 12 or maybe even 16.

Broken Loose wrote:The worst part of all this secrecy is that I would have been buying new models for the last 4 months straight if I knew which models wouldn't be pure gak in the new codex.

As it stands, I won't be buying any new models until at least a week or so after the codex comes out because I don't want to waste my money.

So true, so true, painfully true. I am doing the exact same thing.

//Edge

Tim the Biovore wrote:We need gaunts in boxes of 12 or maybe even 16.

But the DO come in boxes of 16

I agree at the very least 10 each would be MUCH better. I mean the guants are a pretty small mini, I very much doubt adding 4 total for the same price will bankrupt the company.

Oh so much speculation...lay off on it. Does anyone think that flaming each other about something not on retail YET is gonna give a free sneak-peak into its contents? Or making up "respectable sources" just for the sake of proving a point is gonna advance the release date?

Try and at least respect each other, guys!
Its coming out in 20 days anyway, enough to finish painting your pre-existing 'Nid armies.

KingCracker wrote:I agree at the very least 10 each would be MUCH better.

They come on sprues of 4 and GW isn't recutting them. So we'll get them in multiples of 4 - either a box of 12 for the same cost as all the other '10-man boxes' like Cadians and Orks, or a box of 8 becuase GW are a spiteful hateful money-grubbing company.

Guess which one is more likely?

H.B.M.C. wrote:

KingCracker wrote:I agree at the very least 10 each would be MUCH better.

They come on sprues of 4 and GW isn't recutting them. So we'll get them in multiples of 4 - either a box of 12 for the same cost as all the other '10-man boxes' like Cadians and Orks, or a box of 8 becuase GW are a spiteful hateful money-grubbing company.

Guess which one is more likely?

Box of 16 , same as before
This way GW be worshiped as merciful god.

GW cares not for our worship, nor our self debasement; only for our sacrifice.

If I could get free minis I'd sacrifice goats (or drug dealers) in the name of GW.

GW cares not from where the money flows, only that it does.

But yeah, I know the gaunts come in sprues of 4, I was just saying...personally I hope they do 12 gaunt boxes for the same price as boyz/Cadians as opposed to a measly 8. That's practically a slap in the face, but you know GW will do it anyway...

What's even worse is, what if they make it 4 terms/hormies per box?

Sidstyler wrote:GW cares not from where the money flows, only that it does.

But yeah, I know the gaunts come in sprues of 4, I was just saying...personally I hope they do 12 gaunt boxes for the same price as boyz/Cadians as opposed to a measly 8. That's practically a slap in the face, but you know GW will do it anyway...

What's even worse is, what if they make it 4 terms/hormies per box?

And they'll throw in 1 ripper swarm base, all for the special price of $19.99

Sidstyler wrote:GW cares not from where the money flows, only that it does.

But yeah, I know the gaunts come in sprues of 4, I was just saying...personally I hope they do 12 gaunt boxes for the same price as boyz/Cadians as opposed to a measly 8. That's practically a slap in the face, but you know GW will do it anyway...

What's even worse is, what if they make it 4 terms/hormies per box?

AAAAAAAAAAArgh! The end of GW!

LunaHound wrote:And they'll throw in 1 ripper swarm base, all for the special price of $19.99 $35.75

Fixed.

We'll get boxes of 12 for the same price other armies pay for 10, but we'll no longer get the upgrade/mutations sprue included. That will be a direct order only thing from the online store.

Sidstyler wrote:

LunaHound wrote:And they'll throw in 1 ripper swarm base, all for the special price of $19.99 $35.75

Fixed.

Sidstyler, I always thought of you as more of a pessimist. You've changed your ways, I see?

Yeah, I'm a glass half-full kinda guy.

Half-full of what, really.

RogueMarket wrote:Guys- look at the retail - 105$


Money/Price creep?

$105 isn't that bad if you think about it. Just adding together all that comes in the battalion box for lets say.... Skaven... it adds to $141.00 without taxes if you buy it all individually. Thats a savings I'd take any day even with a little increase in price. AND I haven't even added in tax for myself being in New York so..... I really hate New York taxes....... anyways battalions are usually always a steal.


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Sidstyler wrote:GW cares not from where the money flows, only that it does.

But yeah, I know the gaunts come in sprues of 4, I was just saying...personally I hope they do 12 gaunt boxes for the same price as boyz/Cadians as opposed to a measly 8. That's practically a slap in the face, but you know GW will do it anyway...

What's even worse is, what if they make it 4 terms/hormies per box?

I'm on the border myself with the number of models in the kit. 8 would be kind of a bad move on GW especially for an army thats about large numbers (but a price of $22 would be a little easier to swallow I say). I'll just sit back and wait to see what they plan on doing and go from there, I've been wanting to start collecting Nids for a long time and this could be my excuse to start finally.

I reckon that the size of the Gaunt box will be dependent on the minimum unit size in the new codex.
If min unit size is 10+ we'll get boxes of 12.
If min unit size is 5 or 8+ we'll get boxes of 8.

If they come 8 to a $22 box, then expect Gaunts to become pretty rare. That kind of pricing would be criminally high for a small handful of models whose entire purpose is to die, especially when you'll need to use them in units of 20+. Then, Tyranid players will have a core unit that costs 60 dollars before hitting maximim number without even having the decency to be competant killers like Orks. A full squad of Space Marines will still cost $35.

Its coming out in 20 days anyway, enough to finish painting your pre-existing 'Nid armies.

My 6000 point of nids beg to differ.

Theres not gonna be a trygon in the battleforce!

If it's the same content as the current battleforce I'll be happy.

Also, anyone complaining about it going up in price doesn't remember when this box, and the Ogre Kingdoms one, cost something like $120 before they decided to readjust the prices so they all cost $90. It's an instance in which GW lowered prices that everyone seems to want to forget

When will GW put the new box on their site?

From my tiny experience, I read that the $90 box was a price drop that made all forces affordable when sales were low for certain races/armies. This fixed $90 for battleforces made each army equally affordable. I also read that they will no longer follow the fixed $90 and provide balanced armies and adjusting the price accordingly, thus making the battleforce boxes between $90-120 which what I believe they did in the past. Now, would this result in people buying more Space Marines than Tau Empire? Or more Necron than Orks? In this economy, I think it wouls affect the sales.

I am also excited to see the contents of the new 'nid battleforce box and looking forward to more plastic models. The days are counting down....

Thank God for those 3 battleforces I just happened to acquire in the SwapShop a month ago.

FlammingGaunt wrote:

Its coming out in 20 days anyway, enough to finish painting your pre-existing 'Nid armies.

My 6000 point of nids beg to differ.

Err...paint quickly?

FlammingGaunt wrote:

Its coming out in 20 days anyway, enough to finish painting your pre-existing 'Nid armies.

My 6000 point of nids beg to differ.

Any chance that we could get to see some pics of said army? Must look impressive!

//Edge

OnTheEdge wrote:

Broken Loose wrote:The worst part of all this secrecy is that I would have been buying new models for the last 4 months straight if I knew which models wouldn't be pure gak in the new codex.

As it stands, I won't be buying any new models until at least a week or so after the codex comes out because I don't want to waste my money.

So true, so true, painfully true. I am doing the exact same thing.

//Edge

Me too sadly.

Sidstyler wrote:Yeah, I'm a glass half-full kinda guy.

And I'm a bit of a 'Hey, I ordered a cheeseburger' guy.

FlammingGaunt wrote:
Its coming out in 20 days anyway, enough to finish painting your pre-existing 'Nid armies.


My 6000 point of nids beg to differ.


Any chance that we could get to see some pics of said army? Must look impressive!

//Edge

Maybe but I'm a little ashamed of the fact that mostly are un painted.
Right now I'm having trouble with my computer so it could be awhile b4 I get a photo up.

FlammingGaunt wrote:

FlammingGaunt wrote:
Its coming out in 20 days anyway, enough to finish painting your pre-existing 'Nid armies.


My 6000 point of nids beg to differ.


Any chance that we could get to see some pics of said army? Must look impressive!

//Edge

Maybe but I'm a little ashamed of the fact that mostly are un painted.
Right now I'm having trouble with my computer so it could be awhile b4 I get a photo up.

Damn bugs! Hey...bugs...you're a 'Nid player, right? Well, you gotta have SOME experience with bugs then. Let ya sort that out, ok?

FlammingGaunt wrote:
Maybe but I'm a little ashamed of the fact that mostly are un painted.
Right now I'm having trouble with my computer so it could be awhile b4 I get a photo up.

No need to be ashamed... for all the rainbow color tyranid armies out there,
surely there must be some gray ones...

Ok I finally got photos working on my comp. Heres all my nids
(note stompa is there as a point of reference.)

Sweet! Thanks FlammingGaunt! Looks great, lots of bugs!
Can't wait for the dex to come out! I haven't been this exited for an upcoming codex in quite awhile actually...

//Edge

Blurry photos, reflective white background messes up even more the distinction between individual 'nids/colours.

Nice swarming effect when all put together however!

Whats... the... stompa... supposed to be ? 0_o

Stompa there because there's no where else to put it.
Thanks for the comments.

So what exactly is coming out December 5th? It sure does not look like anything will.

At the local GW store they told me there is not going to be any Tyranid box coming out in December, and that the release date of the codex, whenever that was supposed to be, has been moved back a couple of weeks because they forgot to print the special rules page(s) in it, and all the books had to be returned to the printer to correct the issue.

TBD wrote:So what exactly is coming out December 5th? It sure does not look like anything will.

At the local GW store they told me there is not going to be any Tyranid box coming out in December, and that the release date of the codex, whenever that was supposed to be, has been moved back a couple of weeks because they forgot to print the special rules page(s) in it, and all the books had to be returned to the printer to correct the issue.

This actually sounds inept enough to be true.

Actually, it would imply admitting there was a mistake in the codex and attempting to rectify it, so I call shenanigans.

Aduro wrote:Actually, it would imply admitting there was a mistake in the codex and attempting to rectify it, so I call shenanigans.

I heard the same thing. It's not just a summary that was missing, but the full rules. Not much use without them!

Maelstrom has dats for the dex, so it does seem more than possible.

I blame the chinese! What, I'm a dickshooter.

This policy of not letting anything slip through discouraged me to get the proper hype on. Even though I play Tyranids and want to buy some... go figure.

Greets
Schepp himself

If GWS just announced the legion of the damned, which is for release January 2nd, wouldn't the pre-order for the alleged Dec 5th bug battleforce have been on the site for nearly a month? It's still not there.

Has anyone noticed that Hormagaunts and Termagaunts are no longer available for order on the GW website? Technical bug or sign of things changing?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1050152

It's been that way for a couple of weeks now. The site has been under some restructuring, if I recall correctly. Some things were removed and added again later during the process.

It's also a shame that we officially know more about the Space Marines being released in the Tyranid release window than we do about the Tyranids themselves.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1050152 The Gants have been added back up on the website and guess what...




NO SPLITTING!


Sorry never mind.


the site glitched and now it's gone...

January Releases for Independent retailers today:

99120106017 Tyranid Battleforce 46 Fig Box 5-Dec-09 $105.00
99060106064 Tyranid Spore Mines 9 Fig Blister 16 Jan-10 $16.50
60030106003 Codex: Tyranids (English)96pp 16-Jan-10 $25.00
99120106016 Tyranid Ravener Brood 3 Fig Box 16-Jan-10 $44.50
99120106018 Tyranid Gargoyle Brood 10 Fig Box 16-Jan-10 $29.00
99120106019 Tyranid Trygon / Mawloc 1 Fig Box 16-Jan-10 $49.50
99110106063 Tyranid Pyrovore 1 Fig Box 16-Jan-10 $33.00
99120106021 Tyranid Termagant Brood 12 Fig Box 12-Dec-09 $24.75
99120106020 Tyranid Hormagaunt Brood 12 Fig Box 12-Dec-09 $24.75
9906010606201 Tyranid Venomthrope 1 Fig Blister 16-Jan-10 $20.00
9906010606101 Tyranid Hive Guard 1 Fig Blister 16-Jan-10 $20.00

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Do we know what the 46 pieces are in the battleforce?

3 x Warriors

8x Genestealers

16x Termgaunt

16x Hormagaunt

3x Ripper bases.

Nice to see the Gargoyles have come down in price...

Also nice to be able to buy Hormagaunts and Termagaunts separately...

I'm a bit disappointed with those Battleforce contents. That's nowhere near as cool as the last one, and it's more expensive. Boo.

There is no way that they're taking the carnifex out of the battleforce box: Doesn't every other race have a vehicle in their battleforce box?

Tim the Biovore wrote:

OnTheEdge wrote:

Broken Loose wrote:The worst part of all this secrecy is that I would have been buying new models for the last 4 months straight if I knew which models wouldn't be pure gak in the new codex.

As it stands, I won't be buying any new models until at least a week or so after the codex comes out because I don't want to waste my money.

So true, so true, painfully true. I am doing the exact same thing.

//Edge

Same. And i wont be buying the battle force. confirmed contents of BF

http://store.miniwargaming.com/product/warhammer-40k-tyranids-battleforce.html


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