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Coming January 2nd

Nice minis but Ill be damned if i pay £10 or two metal models.

Nice models, particularly the hvy flamer. Those guys would make some pretty sweet Salamanders Sternguard veterans as well.

Mr. Burning wrote:Nice minis but Ill be damned if i pay £10 or two metal models.

Well, I guess I'm in line for damning then, because I will definitely be picking up the Sergeant (Chaplain conversion, here we come!) and the Heavy Flamer, minimum!

Does anyone at all use Legion of the Damned?

I want I want I want.

olympia wrote:Does anyone at all use Legion of the Damned?

Yes, I do.

May still have some of the ancient models hanging around. I have always liked LOTD. The perfect space marines, they come at critical moments then bugger off again.

I love the fluff, but £50 to get a 10 man squad of metal models.

GW must have paid a fortune to produce those minis, they must be made out of gold!!

I still want, I'll just wait and order them from wayland, or giftsforgeeks.

I guess I'll not be buggered, since I'm not even mildly interested in them.

The look like they would be real cool for the two people who play angels of fire..

And yeah sallies.

And of course Alpharius the only person who fields them as LotD.

The melta guy isnt to hot though. Head looks funny. Chaplain looks ace. And I love the flaming helmet grills. One of them is pointing his bolter like hes gonna fire it! He also has a collection of baby skulls on his leg, what a guy.

Overall looking good.

I'd be into these if they could have only worked a few more skulls onto them.

They look very nice. But not at the price they want.

£56 for 11 marines!

I will still buy them though even though I don't use Imperial marines at the mo.

Marines at £5 each now. I like them but sheesh.

Yes, by combining the £20 box set with 2 lots of the £10 blisters and 1 £8 Heavy Weapon Blister, that's £48 for a squad of 10.

Kind of puts the Goldswords to shame doesn't it?

Think these should be labelled "Diamond Damned"

The only thing they damn is the wallet. That said I looooove the skull beakie for my chaos army

£20 for 5? Man, I wish I'd kept the old LotD I had >_>

Still, I love most of those models so I'll buy them eventually.

Just not from GW.

Sweet. I might buy a few just because they're soo cool

looks in wallet

Maybe not.

while i do like the sculpts (especially the sergeants banner and the skull beaky marine), the prices are too much. i skipped 4th edition so i remember when $35 was the retail price for 10 metal figs (like the old blood angels death co boxed set of 10), not for 5 sculpts.

Legion of the Too Damned Much Marines. Which is a real shame, because they are absolutely stunning. I'd love to use several for Angry Marines Black Brothers. Burning rage cooking their yellow armor black, and a fire obsession are perfectly reflected in these sculpts. Plus I'm sure they'd love to cover themselves with the bones of their enemies.

OM*G
Anybody want to buy a kidney?

Nice sculpts. Especially the sarge.

So the Marines I saw in WD were Legion of Damned as I suspected...
VERY nice models

Meh.

They ARE cool models, but the fact that no one will be able to free-hand flames like that slightly makes 'em les cool.

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:They ARE cool models, but the fact that no one will be able to free-hand flames like that slightly makes 'em les cool.

Flames are sculted on aren't they?

Gitzbitah wrote:Legion of the Too Damned Much Marines.

I also like the models, but GW is getting a lil bit crazy with the prices, imho.

gil gerard wrote:I also like the models, but GW is getting a lil bit crazy with the prices, imho.

Its not humble in this case

I plan to pick up around 20 or so
those are nice minis

Why is the price surprising? Its the same price as sternguard and vanguard

Kirasu wrote:Why is the price surprising? Its the same price as sternguard and vanguard

You can tell how many of us have bought those items enough to be familiar with that price point. Actually, the MK I and MK II vets were also at that price.

Good thing I just ordered the skele looking bits from the Possessed kit. At least I can make my a couple LotD on the cheap.

They are OK I thought they would be much creepier/ undead-spectral looking.

But they are nice sculpts, considering they are just moar-marines.

No Plasma Cannon? boo.

I love these new Legion of the Damned sculpts, but I'm really moving away from metal minis these days as much as possible because the price has just gotten out of hand and keeping the paint on them with no chips is always more challenging than plastic. For about 18 years I liked metal better than plastic but the past couple years I've really changed preferences with the better detail, more parts per sprue, often better pricing and ease of assembly for plastic.

I recently painted 10 metal Sternguard and it reminded me why I like plastic so much better these days. I may add some plastic bones here and there to some plastic Marines and hand paint most of my bones and flames on flat surfaces. But I wouldn't knock anyone else for buying the new LoD models, they look terrific.

My god they look freakin' awesome! I may get some just to go (albeit illegally) with my Space Wolves!

However they do appear to rely a bit too much on painting skills (flames) which is something I lack. and then there is the price.

I really really like the way th heavy weapons are designed anyone else notice their braced where the hand goes inside a portion of it.


I think they are fantastic models

I have to admit, I really only want the 'chaplain' looking Sergeant model.

OK, and maybe the heavy flamer model.

Too bad GW got rid of their bitz service, because that's going to be a tough purchase to justify...

Also, why I do field a Legion of the Damned squad, I use their rules to represent a 'high tech' special (OK, extra special!) forces type of squad. Rapid deployment, precise insertion type of thing. The 'high tech' being represented by the ability to deep strike and fire heavy weapons on the move. A slightly bulked up power-armored marine.

But, I digress...

Absolutely stunning figures! LOVE them!

Too bad they're absolutely not worth taking in the game. : /

The Sergeant is a nice sculpt, but I doubt these will sell well, thanks to substandard rules. Also, By the time Marines v6 roll out, the entire squad entry will likely just disappear anyway.

All that said, though, I'm considering building some Legionnaires as allies for my beleaguered IG for Apocalypse.

That could be a good Chaplain eh?

Hmm, maybe when painted in a ghostly palette they could double as fallen Astartes brought back into this world by some otherworldly curse or taint, perfect for RT scenarios.

I want the skull beakie helmet. And yes they would make awesome models for salamanders sternguard

Damn they're hot.

Hollismason wrote:I really really like the way th heavy weapons are designed anyone else notice their braced where the hand goes inside a portion of it.

I noticed that. I just think that asthetic works better with Terminators than regular power armor guys.

Agamemnon2 wrote:Also, By the time Marines v6 roll out, the entire squad entry will likely just disappear anyway.

That is a very good point.

They'll soon be hangin' with the 13th company, I 'd wager...

That SGT. is going to be my new chaplain seriously what a fantastic model.

ARGH why couldn't they make the plasma cannon one.

Wasn't there a preview of a sculpt with half the face mask ripped of and showing a skull underneath? Or was that just a test model for some new and upcoming sculpter. Anyways nice models, don't need them but they make for great conversion subjects.

OMG!! The first ever left-handed space marine!



Very nice models, though. Very nice indeed...

Alpharius wrote:

Agamemnon2 wrote:Also, By the time Marines v6 roll out, the entire squad entry will likely just disappear anyway.

That is a very good point.

They'll soon be hangin' with the 13th company, I 'd wager...

Current trends suggest GW will keep them in the book. Look at how many old models were reintroduced in the Skaven book. I think the bean counters realised that it was a waste of stock having loads of old models lying around with no rules to encourage gamers to buy them. Thus, I suspect LoTD will continue to make an appearance in future Codexes. Wouldn't be overly surprised to see them in the mooted Blood Angels Codex. The bean counters also like nice wide markets for the models after all.

Totally getting those just to paint up!

AUD$155 for all the models. That's as much as a Battleforce but for 11 guys.

They're just taking the piss now...


[EDIT]: Oh, and once again us Aussies get rammed up the arse by GW. AUD$155 for all the LotD stuff? Yeah, buy it form the UK for $100. What the fething feth are we paying an extra $55 for GWOZ? Answer me that.

They are exactly the same price as veterans, i.e. metal space marines.
so unless the entire space marine metal range is made of gold, these aren't overly expensive.

H.B.M.C. wrote:AUD$155 for all the models. That's as much as a Battleforce but for 11 guys.

They're just taking the piss now...

Wow is the only thing that comes to mind.
Now, which podcast mentioned AUS getting good prices atm? What a bunch of bull.

I actually feel sorry fo you fellas

H.B.M.C. wrote:AUD$155 for all the models. That's as much as a Battleforce but for 11 guys.

They're just taking the piss now...


[EDIT]: Oh, and once again us Aussies get rammed up the arse by GW. AUD$155 for all the LotD stuff? Yeah, buy it form the UK for $100. What the fething feth are we paying an extra $55 for GWOZ? Answer me that.

Don't tell me you're ordering directly from GW, are you H.? How are the prices when you order from places like wayland?

The price has gone from bad to worse on metal models this past year and to even worse in some countries. If the price is bad in the US it's generally much worse in Australia.

Special weapon troopers at $13.25 US each for the new Legion Of The Damned plus some older models like the Grey Knights Psycannon Trooper is pretty outrageous.

yeah 15$ warlocks are awesome too

Kirasu wrote:yeah 15$ warlocks are awesome too

Recently I also noticed that Warlocks are a lot more expensive than they were before the metal price hikes of Sept. 2008 and spring 2009. Having added a few more and as many as I'd likely ever want to my Eldar collection just a couple years ago I hadn't looked at them in a while, then browsing in the store recently as a break from painting I noticed the greatly increased price. Virtually anything made of metal now by GW really pushes the limits of what even the most devoted fans will pay. I also noticed that the Space Marine Veterans in the online store that were $8 each before Sept. 2008 are now $11 US each. Ouch for anyone just trying to build their collection now.

These belong with my Space Wolves.

Maybe as Wolf Guard!

I have question about LotD especially now I am interested in getting at least one of each.
Every time someone talks about them they say they are not worth it.
So has any one used them and how did they work?

I love playing with the Legion and now I will love buying that Multimelta guy.

"What's that, you want me to Deep Strike and meltdown that Land Raider? Okay, but just make sure you know that my +3 invulnerable save will make me all but unkillable!!!!!!!!!"


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But why no meltagun?????

DAMMIT! I didn't know about this thread and just made my own. NOOO!

rdlb wrote:I love playing with the Legion and now I will love buying that Multimelta guy.

"What's that, you want me to Deep Strike and meltdown that Land Raider? Okay, but just make sure you know that my +3 invulnerable save will make me all but unkillable!!!!!!!!!"


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But why no meltagun?????

I have one of the old ones with the Melta-Gun

rdlb wrote:I love playing with the Legion and now I will love buying that Multimelta guy.

"What's that, you want me to Deep Strike and meltdown that Land Raider? Okay, but just make sure you know that my +3 invulnerable save will make me all but unkillable!!!!!!!!!"


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But why no meltagun?????

Unkillable?

You're just as killable as a regular tac marine if I am shooting you with AP 4 weapons or worse, there is no difference.

Just pummell you with bolter fire and flamers.

You are bound to fail a bunch of those 3+ invuns, and your units are pretty damn expensive!

Finally, a MEQ that appeals to me.

So, any info on the FW figs that were displayed some time ago?

What FW figs? Or did you mean those new Pathfinder sculpts?

Gotta have some! I love the one with hte big old combat blade!!

G

I like the direction GW is going with marine body proportions just like the new Space Wolf , these look slimmer or taller or atleast not haunched.

They are better than I thought they'd be. I'll probably get that heavy flamer marine.

I really like these minis, and will be adding them to my vanilla marine army after I finish up the Wolves. A bit pricey, but it'll be good for my FLGS.

i dig them. i'll get them all.

unheilig wrote:i dig them. i'll get them all.

If I played marines I'd be on these like a hobo on a hot pocket.

Necroagogo wrote:

Gitzbitah wrote:Legion of the Too Damned Much Marines.

ROFL...

Thats damn near sig worthy.... only in a good way!

Why do so many people complain about their prices? Sure, they are pricy, but not that much more than Sternguard. Jeez, only 5 euros more than Sternguard...
Thought the heavy weapons cost too much, I must admit that.
But always remember that there are cheaper options [insert link to Maelstorm]

Roleplayer wrote:

Unkillable?

You're just as killable as a regular tac marine if I am shooting you with AP 4 weapons or worse, there is no difference.

Just pummell you with bolter fire and flamers.

You are bound to fail a bunch of those 3+ invuns, and your units are pretty damn expensive!

Yep. The best way to win every game you have is to make an enemy roll a ton of saves, because he will fail a chunk of them most every time. This makes any smallish unit that costs a lot of points unfavorable to me, and LoTD are high up there point wise.

It just struck me, the legion are the same price as GW's metal veterans, and sternguard.

I suppose I was hoping for a box of 10 metal marines for £30, but I can see how they have to keep the prices of their models relative.

I'm coming around to the idea...I want Legion!!!

I thought £8 for hero figures is a bit out of hand but £5 per model for infantry?
That's a joke.

nyyman wrote:Why do so many people complain about their prices?

Did you miss my post?

AUD$155 for all those models when the rest of the world pays $100.

What do I get for my extra $55? A happy ending?

H.B.M.C. wrote:

nyyman wrote:Why do so many people complain about their prices?

Did you miss my post?

AUD$155 for all those models when the rest of the world pays $100.

What do I get for my extra $55? A happy ending?

At least we know where to get them a bit cheaper, and with free shipping too!

For some reason I thought that the LotD were physically on fire, with actual flames pouring off their armour rather than just painted on. I do like them, but they don't look all that Damned to me to be honest and now the *wow* factor is wearing off a bit. They've got skulls and flames stuck on, but lots of Marines have skulls and flames stuck on. They don't even have much in the way of bones sculpted on their arms and legs either, and only a couple get proper ribcages. I wish they'd gone all out on them.

That would be the Fire Hawks of the Cursed Founding.

Guess I am just the devils advocate when I noticed that the Sgt is illegal as shown. Sadly no Plasma Pistol and CCW for you!

Im sensing some DC conversions for my BA

InquisitorFabius wrote:That would be the Fire Hawks of the Cursed Founding.

Guess I am just the devils advocate when I noticed that the Sgt is illegal as shown. Sadly no Plasma Pistol and CCW for you!

You are correct!

GW 'editorial'/'quality control strikes again!

I guess, technically, he could still count as having a pistol and another pistol, since he has to give up his bolter to get the plasma pistol...

Unless you're allowed to pick more then one weapon from the list when you replace your boltgun?

Multi melta awesome

Alpharius wrote:

InquisitorFabius wrote:That would be the Fire Hawks of the Cursed Founding.

Guess I am just the devils advocate when I noticed that the Sgt is illegal as shown. Sadly no Plasma Pistol and CCW for you!

You are correct!

GW 'editorial'/'quality control strikes again!

I guess, technically, he could still count as having a pistol and another pistol, since he has to give up his bolter to get the plasma pistol...

Unless you're allowed to pick more then one weapon from the list when you replace your boltgun?

Or, if you go to the GW site, then you'll see that they have, I kid you not, already FAQed this.

Page 138, Legion of the Damned, Options.
Change the second bullet point to:
The Damned Sergeant may replace his boltgun
and/or bolt pistol with:

Crap I better get my custom made one LotD marines done and on Ebay before these hit!

Awesome!

Was this FAQ'd today?

Funny stuff!

They didn't answer the question about Calgar's fists... but did answer a question I've never seen about Shrike's claws.

Was this updated as of my last checking? This is strange.

I love the models, LOTD was one of the handful of SM chapters to first take my interest.

Wow they really look awesome. GW really put some hard work in the making of these...

over and out avach

Legion of the damned squad - £20
Damned legionnaires 1 - £10
Damned legionnaires 2 - £10
Legionnaire multi-melta - £8

Legion of the damned squad - £20
Damned legionnaires 1 - £10
Damned legionnaires 2 - £10
Legionnaire multi-melta - £8

Legion of the damned squad - £20
Damned legionnaires 1 - £10
Damned legionnaires 2 - £10
Legionnaire multi-melta - £8

Chaplain with fist and croz - £7.85

Ironclad - £24.45
Ironclad - £24.45
Ironclad - £24.45



Convert the chappy into a commander and you have a small army to use, ok, it costs a hefty £225.20
but it will look good
BTW, i mean these as a chapter rather than a unit choice in an army

H.B.M.C. wrote:They didn't answer the question about Calgar's fists... but did answer a question I've never seen about Shrike's claws.

Good point!

Of course, that might mean that the scholars at GW's Ivory Tower don't think it is an issue.

But that's another issue...

But then we get to have a debate over whether they don't think it's an issue because he 'obviously' has two power fists, or that they don't think it's an issue because the Gauntlets are 'obviously' just one weapon.

Or maybe each Gauntlet counts as one weapon, with the underslung bolters counting as twin-linked?

OR maybe he's illegal, having four weapons?

MINDBOGGLING!

would make a cool counts as GK force though

Soo pretty.

Holy~Heretic wrote:

Well, I guess I'm in line for damning then, because I will definitely be picking up the Sergeant (Chaplain conversion, here we come!) and the Heavy Flamer, minimum!

+1
That sergeant will make a damn fine chappy imo

olympia wrote:Does anyone at all use Legion of the Damned?

I don't O had a pile of them back in the day that I was going to use as CSM but they got sold instead.

According to this post here:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4188918&postcount=172

over on Warseer, there are even MORE Legion of the Damned Models coming:

Damned Sergeant with Bolt Pistol and Power Weapon (1 Fig Blister) 2-Jan-10 US$15.00 New Metal
Damned Legionnaire with Flamer (1 Fig Blister) 2-Jan-10 US$13.25 New Metal
Damned Legionnaires 3 (2 Fig Blister) 2-Jan-10 US$16.50 New Metal
Damned Legionnaires 4 (2 Fig Blister) 2-Jan-10 US$16.50 New Metal

One of these will, allegedly, be the 'half skull face' version we saw previously as a green.

Sadly, they look to be direct only?

Wait for it....




DAMN!

Well looks like my army of legion of the damned based on the chaos codex and thousand sons will happen for sure now. Those are pretty modles indeed.

At least the sergeant can be bought separately, which is good right?

i still don't see the point in procucing metal minis...

Metal Mini's cost less overall to produce than plastics. The moulds for plastics cost heaps of money, so they have to sell thousands of them to make up for that cost. Models like Characters and Legion of the Damned which only some gamers will buy one of for their army (opposed to buying 10 plastic troop choices). So metal is cheaper to produce but costs more for the gamer.

Back on topic, I remember that flamer dude, I'm gonna hunt for a pic of him now. That'd be great, so there'll be more than 10 unique models for legion of the damned, sweet!! But if they're direct only does that mean that we cant buy them from our favourite discounted online shop?

Do we have to go to the dreaded www.gw of doom??

ps. daemonhunter1241 - legion are a loyalist chapter, they just got sucked into the warp and look all evil because their days are numbered, but they fight for the emperor.

BrookM wrote:At least the sergeant can be bought separately, which is good right?

Well, maybe!

This is a different model (bolt pistol vs. plasma pistol) than the one we've seen already.

If it is as good, then definitely!

If not, then I will still be 'forced' to buy the boxed set to get the really nice one...

These models are pants!

Where are the greens Ive seen, with bones protruding, half skull/helmet, older power packs etc?? I want THOSE LOTD, not these skull blinged regular marines painted to look like LOTD. Didnt we see pics of really done up LOTD? I want my LOTD to look like walking death, cursed souls that the fluff eludes to. Where are they?

I rather like the look of these, probably bite the bullet and buy a box (oooh, alliteration!)

I plan on making a Silver Skulls army with my leftover marine stocks. These guys would make great Sternguard for the Silver Skulls or maybe just use them as sergeant models for tac squads. The Damned Sergeant will likely become Chapter Master Argentius, with a little conversion work and maybe a weapon swap.

Curious to see the upcoming Damned models. Hope that one with the damaged helmet exposing the skull head is in that batch someplace.

Spacemanvic wrote:These models are pants!

Where are the greens Ive seen, with bones protruding, half skull/helmet, older power packs etc?? I want THOSE LOTD, not these skull blinged regular marines painted to look like LOTD. Didnt we see pics of really done up LOTD? I want my LOTD to look like walking death, cursed souls that the fluff eludes to. Where are they?

GrimTeef wrote:I rather like the look of these, probably bite the bullet and buy a box (oooh, alliteration!)

I plan on making a Silver Skulls army with my leftover marine stocks. These guys would make great Sternguard for the Silver Skulls or maybe just use them as sergeant models for tac squads. The Damned Sergeant will likely become Chapter Master Argentius, with a little conversion work and maybe a weapon swap.

Curious to see the upcoming Damned models. Hope that one with the damaged helmet exposing the skull head is in that batch someplace.

...well...

Alpharius wrote:According to this post here:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4188918&postcount=172

over on Warseer, there are even MORE Legion of the Damned Models coming:

Damned Sergeant with Bolt Pistol and Power Weapon (1 Fig Blister) 2-Jan-10 US$15.00 New Metal
Damned Legionnaire with Flamer (1 Fig Blister) 2-Jan-10 US$13.25 New Metal
Damned Legionnaires 3 (2 Fig Blister) 2-Jan-10 US$16.50 New Metal
Damned Legionnaires 4 (2 Fig Blister) 2-Jan-10 US$16.50 New Metal

One of these will, allegedly, be the 'half skull face' version we saw previously as a green.

Sadly, they look to be direct only?

I can't wait for 'picture proof' myself, but I will be doing so before purchasing any of the figures.

I have changed my avatar in commemoration of these awesome models.

Does anyone have any idea what the parts breakdown is on these yet? I'm intensely curious as to whether or not any of the shoulder pads on these things will be separate pieces... given the marine metals as of late, they usually aren't, but it would be fantastic if they were.

Alpharius wrote:I'm guessing I could buy the box, keep the sergeant and sell the rest.

(Damn you GW for canceling your bitz service!)

I would probably be willing to buy the leftovers.

All of the LotD models now showing for Advance Order are GW Direct Only with the exception of the boxed set of five models. The store items containing two models and store items containing single heavy weapon LotD models all have the Citadel "box in a circle" watermark on them indicating "direct only" sales. Occasionally, stores get a few as a "splash" on release weekend (e.g., Njal Stormcaller), but not always (e.g., Commissar Lord), so if you want to be guaranteed to get those models Direct ordering is the way to go. And the fact that most of these are Direct Only would seem to indicate that any possible future models in the range will also likely be Direct Only.

And, allegedly, there are more variations to come, that will also be 'direct only'.

These are the ones we're waiting to see pictures of...

Yeah. In addition to what's on GW's site, there's also...

Damned Legionnaires
Damned Legionnaire with Heavy Weapon
Damned Sergeant with Bolt Pistol and Power Weapon
Damned Legionnaire with Flamer
Damned Legionnaires 3
Damned Legionnaires 4

Are all things listed on the new releases trader information for January. I have no idea what "Heavy Weapon" is - probably a heavy bolter - or what the very first item in that list is, but it's indicated as being a 2-figure blister priced at $16.50 like all the other LotD ones.

The Flamer one is probably the same one as what's in the squad set, only sold separately, similar to how you can get a Grey Knight with Incinerator in the boxed set or in a separate blister. Legionnaires 3 and 4 will either be separate LotD models - which is plausible, as we've seen some parts, like the half-skull helmet that haven't been released yet - or maybe variations of the guys in the squad box.

jamsessionein wrote:Yeah. In addition to what's on GW's site, there's also...

Damned Legionnaires
Damned Legionnaire with Heavy Weapon
Damned Sergeant with Bolt Pistol and Power Weapon
Damned Legionnaire with Flamer
Damned Legionnaires 3
Damned Legionnaires 4

Are all things listed on the new releases trader information for January. I have no idea what "Heavy Weapon" is - probably a heavy bolter - or what the very first item in that list is, but it's indicated as being a 2-figure blister priced at $16.50 like all the other LotD ones.

The Flamer one is probably the same one as what's in the squad set, only sold separately, similar to how you can get a Grey Knight with Incinerator in the boxed set or in a separate blister. Legionnaires 3 and 4 will either be separate LotD models - which is plausible, as we've seen some parts, like the half-skull helmet that haven't been released yet - or maybe variations of the guys in the squad box.

To add to this. Just got new WD through door, and it confirms 6 more LotD models for Feb.

"Direct Only" - yawn.

If GW doesn't care enough to sell these through brick and mortar stores why should I care either? I like to support my LGS, not pay GW postage just because they don't want to offer their full range to retailers.

Most retailers can special order it for you.

The excuse is they're moving their metals to being more like "splash" releases.