You ever feel like you were at a used car lot, when you visit your local hobby center???
I did just the other day.
I stopped in to replace some worn out old clippers... thats all i needed, clippers. The two main employees down there, know me and know my history, so they do not really bug me unless i ask.
I used to manage the local games store, and I've sold GW products to all sorts of people, i know how the speel works.....
but i guess this was a special day at the GW store, the district manager was in.....
He was so over bearing, and so into giving me the pressure to spend more money than I could afford, and I told THREE times, I just needed the clippers, i seriously just wanted to leave.
I am totally going to call the GW customer service, cuz that was lame, the guy was not nice, he was over bearing, he didn't listen to me, tried to get me to spend almost 80 bucks when I ONLY could spend the 15 for the clippers.
who else has had a lame GW experience?? how would YOU rate your overall experience with GW??
Since the manager was replaced (well, he did resign first), my local has been a second rate model shop combined with a dodgy car-yard.
There are a couple of staffers who know me and don't push the hard sell. There is one guy who doesn't learn though. I go in, and he's immediately on the "buy this!" spiel.
I will walk the extra two blocks to get to my actual proper hobby/model store rather than walk into the GW.
It's all about the vibe you give out - I give out a 'feth. off.' vibe everywhere I go. I pretty much get left to go about my business. I appreciate that it won't work for everyone, but it certainly does for me!
I've never gotten the infamous GW sales push. I've had people suggest bigger purchases a couple of times, but they back off pretty quickly when I tell them I'm not interested in spending more money.
It might be because I'm older or more certain* in my response, maybe the stores here are better, or maybe I've just been lucky so far.
Albatross wrote:It's all about the vibe you give out - I give out a 'feth. off.' vibe everywhere I go. I pretty much get left to go about my business. I appreciate that it won't work for everyone, but it certainly does for me!
At least you have a hobby store within biking/walking distance. I need to drive 2 hours to the nearest one. Really inconvenient if I need something right now at this moment in time.
Not quoting another member's name , but supposedly he said if you arnt enjoying GW's sales pitch or you are having issues with them , its supposed to be our own fault for been socially challenged.
Fateweaver wrote:Meh, pushy salesman exist all over. When you get paid on commission you will be slightly overbearing (or he's probably just an asshat).
They don't work on commission. At least here in SoCal they don't. They start at $10 an hour but most guys I know make $14-15, and that is all the financial compensation they get.
LunaHound wrote:Not quoting another member's name , but supposedly he said if you arnt enjoying GW's sales pitch or you are having issues with them , its supposed to be our own fault for been socially challenged.
socially challenged is having a floppy fish handshake. I have no problems discussing the newest products, or old ones, or new rules, or whatever with the employees. But when i feel like the guy i am talking too could sell an icebox to a guy at the south poll.... then theres a problem.
LunaHound wrote:Not quoting another member's name , but supposedly he said if you aren't enjoying GW's sales pitch or you are having issues with them , its supposed to be our own fault for been socially challenged.
And if you were to go on quoting that same person, you'd also recall that part of it was the fact that there were people hooting and hollering that redshirts should be yelled at for just approaching someone they'd never met before in their time working at that store with the GW approved standard spiel.
But I guess it's more fun to claim that if you can't withstand a little minute spiel you should be allowed to yell at some poor schmuck working a minimum wage job, rather than just saying "I know what I'm here for, but I'll make sure to ask if I need anything. Thanks."
Kanluwen wrote:
But I guess it's more fun to claim that if you can't withstand a little minute spiel you should be allowed to yell at some poor schmuck working a minimum wage job, rather than just saying "I know what I'm here for, but I'll make sure to ask if I need anything. Thanks."
I would have thought that you, of all people, understood that things are exaggerated on the internet.
Kanluwen wrote:
But I guess it's more fun to claim that if you can't withstand a little minute spiel you should be allowed to yell at some poor schmuck working a minimum wage job, rather than just saying "I know what I'm here for, but I'll make sure to ask if I need anything. Thanks."
I would have thought that you, of all people, understood that things are exaggerated on the internet.
LunaHound wrote:Not quoting another member's name , but supposedly he said if you aren't enjoying GW's sales pitch or you are having issues with them , its supposed to be our own fault for been socially challenged.
And if you were to go on quoting that same person, you'd also recall that part of it was the fact that there were people hooting and hollering that redshirts should be yelled at for just approaching someone they'd never met before in their time working at that store with the GW approved standard spiel.
But I guess it's more fun to claim that if you can't withstand a little minute spiel you should be allowed to yell at some poor schmuck working a minimum wage job, rather than just saying "I know what I'm here for, but I'll make sure to ask if I need anything. Thanks."
Remember my little chat that you actually agreed to? The part about what you experienced personally cannot speak for everyone else?
Like i said , i believe you when you say the sales person that you bumped into are tolerable , im not doubting you.
Thus , stop doubting me ( us ) when we are telling you the ones we have around here are BAD.
There is really nothing left for us to discuss on this matter.
I drop by my GW about once a month, usually for an event or something. I think they realize that between my collection of old school stuff and my penchant for converting things to avoid spending $$$, the usual sales pitch is a waste of energy. They keep asking me if I "need any other hobby supplies" like glue, etc. when I'm checking out, and sometimes that gets annoying, but on occasion it has jogged my memory about paints, so I put up with it.
I definitely don't get hit with suggestions of buying the latest Regiment box/Apocalypse plastic kit/etc. as soon as I set foot in the door.
LunaHound wrote:Not quoting another member's name , but supposedly he said if you aren't enjoying GW's sales pitch or you are having issues with them , its supposed to be our own fault for been socially challenged.
But I guess it's more fun to claim that if you can't withstand a little minute spiel you should be allowed to yell at some poor schmuck working a minimum wage job, rather than just saying "I know what I'm here for, but I'll make sure to ask if I need anything. Thanks."
The event in question... was NOT the standard GW spiel, this was an overly AGGRESSIVE sales PUSH not pitch but push. I have given the standard GW sales pitch many many times, I used to manege a local game store where half our business was GW, trust me when I say that it wasn't a pitch.
LunaHound wrote:Not quoting another member's name , but supposedly he said if you aren't enjoying GW's sales pitch or you are having issues with them , its supposed to be our own fault for been socially challenged.
But I guess it's more fun to claim that if you can't withstand a little minute spiel you should be allowed to yell at some poor schmuck working a minimum wage job, rather than just saying "I know what I'm here for, but I'll make sure to ask if I need anything. Thanks."
The event in question... was NOT the standard GW spiel, this was an overly AGGRESSIVE sales PUSH not pitch but push. I have given the standard GW sales pitch many many times, I used to manege a local game store where half our business was GW, trust me when I say that it wasn't a pitch.
Have you ever been in ANY form of retail chain when there's a district manager in?
Normal business practices go out the window to show off for the big boss.
But yeah, hey use your example of a FLGS which was NOT an official GW store answering to a higher power other than just the guy who owns the shop.
LunaHound wrote:Not quoting another member's name , but supposedly he said if you aren't enjoying GW's sales pitch or you are having issues with them , its supposed to be our own fault for been socially challenged.
But I guess it's more fun to claim that if you can't withstand a little minute spiel you should be allowed to yell at some poor schmuck working a minimum wage job, rather than just saying "I know what I'm here for, but I'll make sure to ask if I need anything. Thanks."
The event in question... was NOT the standard GW spiel, this was an overly AGGRESSIVE sales PUSH not pitch but push. I have given the standard GW sales pitch many many times, I used to manege a local game store where half our business was GW, trust me when I say that it wasn't a pitch.
Have you ever been in ANY form of retail chain when there's a district manager in?
Normal business practices go out the window to show off for the big boss.
But yeah, hey use your example of a FLGS which was NOT an official GW store answering to a higher power other than just the guy who owns the shop.
This guy WAS THE DISTRICT MANAGER. I know all the guys that work at that GW store, they are cool, this DISTRICT MANAGER was not.
Automatically Appended Next Post: and p.s. I work in retail, I've worked in retail 90% of my working life, from the local games store, to hardware, and drug store. I have NEVER seen a DM act like that.
The guy who DOESN'T know you is the one who gave you the spiel?
My God. You poor thing. I'm sure you must be absolutely traumatized!
why are you being a jerk?? you work for GW or something??
And I told him more than enough, and me AND my wife's body language said we were UNCOMFORTABLE with his over aggresiveness, and he continued to push. That is my complaint.
The guy who DOESN'T know you is the one who gave you the spiel?
My God. You poor thing. I'm sure you must be absolutely traumatized!
why are you being a jerk?? you work for GW or something?? And I told him more than enough, and me AND my wife's body language said we were UNCOMFORTABLE with his over aggresiveness, and he continued to push. That is my complaint.
hcordes: Be nice, remember the first rule of trolls, they want to get under your skin, let him and he will. just ignore posts that attempt to flame or troll. corse if he keeps it up theres always the ignore button. personally i find it mearly amusing when he over and over attempts this kinda thing. but remember hes intittled to his opinion just as you are. couse you dont have to read it....
hcordes , quoting from someone wise that once told me:
keep in mind that its hard for most people (especially American men) to account for the experiences of others.
Not saying you're wrong in taking offense, simply providing some information.
Why did you come on whining about a topic that comes up every other week?
And frankly, I'm "being a jerk" because of the fact that someone has to play devil's advocate here. Too many posters come on whining about their experiences with GW staff--and then fail to mention that they were in part responsible.
And man, I wish I worked for GW. Lurking forums and getting paid? That'd be a blast!
Kanluwen wrote:Why did you come on whining about a topic that comes up every other week?
And frankly, I'm "being a jerk" because of the fact that someone has to play devil's advocate here. Too many posters come on whining about their experiences with GW staff--and then fail to mention that they were in part responsible.
And man, I wish I worked for GW. Lurking forums and getting paid? That'd be a blast!
TBH , it matters not how often the topic comes up . It only matters that he wishes to express his thoughts , why does it matter that others have also expressed it prior to his post?
No , you arnt a jerk for been devil's advocate , if you are even doing that.
This is what makes you a "jerk" its your tone that you always use against others.
Kanluwen wrote:My God. You poor thing. I'm sure you must be absolutely traumatized!
LunaHound wrote:hcordes , quoting from someone wise that once told me:
keep in mind that its hard for most people (especially American men) to account for the experiences of others.
Not saying you're wrong in taking offense, simply providing some information.
ROFL. Now you bring nationalities into this?
Weaksauce. Take it back to 4chan.
Quite simply:
9/10 times--this is something that you should have talked over with the staff member in person, rather than post about it on a forum.
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LunaHound wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:Why did you come on whining about a topic that comes up every other week?
And frankly, I'm "being a jerk" because of the fact that someone has to play devil's advocate here. Too many posters come on whining about their experiences with GW staff--and then fail to mention that they were in part responsible.
And man, I wish I worked for GW. Lurking forums and getting paid? That'd be a blast!
TBH , it matters not how often the topic comes up . It only matters that he wishes to express his thoughts , why does it matter that others have also expressed it prior to his post?
No , you arnt a jerk for been devil's advocate , if you are even doing that.
This is what makes you a "jerk" its your tone that you always use against others.
Kanluwen wrote:My God. You poor thing. I'm sure you must be absolutely traumatized!
Do you even know what devil's advocate means?
And if we lock threads about games being previously mentioned, movie trailers, etc--crap like this should be locked too.
There is NOTHING new posted.
There is NOTHING ever added to the conversations.
It's the same people, over and over and over crying about how a Redshirt violated their personal space/harassed them at the till/asked if they could help them.
Kanluwen wrote:Why did you come on whining about a topic that comes up every other week?
And frankly, I'm "being a jerk" because of the fact that someone has to play devil's advocate here. Too many posters come on whining about their experiences with GW staff--and then fail to mention that they were in part responsible.
And man, I wish I worked for GW. Lurking forums and getting paid? That'd be a blast!
well heres, the deal, I have NEVER had anything bad to say about GW, staff, quality of mini's, customer service, nothing... well except maybe their prices.... but I have never had an experience like that, i have never met a good sales person that didn't know when to tone it down a little, I was a little shocked, and my wife was down right uncomfortable. I honestly did nothing but go into the store to buy a pair of clippers and that apparently wasn't good enough for this DM, who felt like he had to turn the heat up on me. I made this post to see if I was the only one that's had this experience or if its a relatively common thing.
Kanluwen wrote:Why did you come on whining about a topic that comes up every other week?
And frankly, I'm "being a jerk" because of the fact that someone has to play devil's advocate here. Too many posters come on whining about their experiences with GW staff--and then fail to mention that they were in part responsible.
And man, I wish I worked for GW. Lurking forums and getting paid? That'd be a blast!
well heres, the deal, I have NEVER had anything bad to say about GW, staff, quality of mini's, customer service, nothing... well except maybe their prices.... but I have never had an experience like that, i have never met a good sales person that didn't know when to tone it down a little, I was a little shocked, and my wife was down right uncomfortable. I honestly did nothing but go into the store to buy a pair of clippers and that apparently wasn't good enough for this DM, who felt like he had to turn the heat up on me. I made this post to see if I was the only one that's had this experience or if its a relatively common thing.
Fair enough, I can see if the guy was that bad.
But if that's the case, look him straight in the eyes and say the following:
"No thank you, I've got exactly what I came for. And please tone down your sales approach or I will go elsewhere."
and this guy wasn't a redshirt, he was wearing a black button up with a GAMES WORKSHOP over his right front pocket. like i have said, I have never had a problem with a Red Shirt.
I think now I'll go back to cleaning my guns, drinking beer and listening to country as any red-blooded American would do.
If it makes you feel any better Fate--I'm managing all this in between waiting for paint layers on a Veteran Kazak for Infinity to dry.
And listening to Bill Shatner's soothing voice.
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hcordes wrote:and this guy wasn't a redshirt, he was wearing a black button up with a GAMES WORKSHOP over his right front pocket. like i have said, I have never had a problem with a Red Shirt.
But that brings up another point I wanted to make.
How do you know he was a district manager?
Because from the experiences I've had in several GW stores--they don't just restrict themselves to Redshirts.
Kanluwen wrote:
Fair enough, I can see if the guy was that bad.
But if that's the case, look him straight in the eyes and say the following:
"No thank you, I've got exactly what I came for. And please tone down your sales approach or I will go elsewhere."
It always works.
It literally did not work, I told the guy, "no thanks, just the clippers" he did not stop talking to me until i left.
I should post a thread in OT about how my waiter violated my personal space by standing 2 feet away and asking me what I wanted to order, standing in my personal space while writing the order down and then taking the menu away from me since I had ordered.
Kanluwen wrote:
But that brings up another point I wanted to make.
How do you know he was a district manager?
Because from the experiences I've had in several GW stores--they don't just restrict themselves to Redshirts.
he said "i manage from San Jose to Antioch", that's about an hour n'half drive one way..... i am pretty sure that means area manager if I ever heard one.... i doubt they have "floating managers"????
I could be wrong about him being a DM but when he says he manages an area that size....?
Fateweaver wrote:I should post a thread in OT about how my waiter violated my personal space by standing 2 feet away and asking me what I wanted to order, standing in my personal space while writing the order down and then taking the menu away from me since I had ordered.
I mean, what if I wanted something to read FFS?
You know Fate, the pizza delivery guy yesterday? He tried to invade my home. I mean really. The nerve!
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hcordes wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
But that brings up another point I wanted to make.
How do you know he was a district manager?
Because from the experiences I've had in several GW stores--they don't just restrict themselves to Redshirts.
he said "i manage from San Jose to Antioch", that's about an hour n'half drive one way..... i am pretty sure that means area manager if I ever heard one.... i doubt they have "floating managers"????
I could be wrong about him being a DM but when he says he manages an area that size....?
I have seen/heard of floating managers for GW operations before. It depends on the density of stores in the area you mentioned.
hcordes wrote:he said "i manage from San Jose to Antioch", that's about an hour n'half drive one way..... i am pretty sure that means area manager if I ever heard one.... i doubt they have "floating managers"????
I could be wrong about him being a DM but when he says he manages an area that size....?
They are DMs , and i believe you when you say he is .
Because when ever there is one in our GW , the red shirt always brag about it like "hey! let me just double check with the DM , he happens to be here today!"
Just like if some celebrity is there lol...
hcordes wrote:he said "i manage from San Jose to Antioch", that's about an hour n'half drive one way..... i am pretty sure that means area manager if I ever heard one.... i doubt they have "floating managers"????
I could be wrong about him being a DM but when he says he manages an area that size....?
They are DMs , and i believe you when you say he is .
Because when ever there is one in our GW , the red shirt always brag about it like "hey! let me just double check with the DM , he happens to be here today!"
Just like if some celebrity is there lol...
Work in retail sometime.
Having a district manager present dramatically changes the atmosphere.
hcordes wrote:he said "i manage from San Jose to Antioch", that's about an hour n'half drive one way..... i am pretty sure that means area manager if I ever heard one.... i doubt they have "floating managers"????
I could be wrong about him being a DM but when he says he manages an area that size....?
They are DMs , and i believe you when you say he is .
Because when ever there is one in our GW , the red shirt always brag about it like "hey! let me just double check with the DM , he happens to be here today!"
Just like if some celebrity is there lol...
And I would have to say he's the GM, the usual manager I've known in my gaming circles for years, he hurt himself, and they had the new hobby manager in, and this guy, and the usual red shirt (that knows me) so.... if there was a new hobby manager it would make sence to have a DM there to help.
hcordes wrote:he said "i manage from San Jose to Antioch", that's about an hour n'half drive one way..... i am pretty sure that means area manager if I ever heard one.... i doubt they have "floating managers"????
I could be wrong about him being a DM but when he says he manages an area that size....?
They are DMs , and i believe you when you say he is .
Because when ever there is one in our GW , the red shirt always brag about it like "hey! let me just double check with the DM , he happens to be here today!"
Just like if some celebrity is there lol...
Work in retail sometime.
Having a district manager present dramatically changes the atmosphere.
Working in a situation like a GW store, having a district/regional manager present changes the work atmosphere.
It's notorious at Best Buy, at least in NC. It goes from a joking, friendly atmosphere(with no managers present)--to the most uptight and stuffy working environment that people call in sick if it's a scheduled visit.
Working in a situation like a GW store, having a district/regional manager present changes the work atmosphere.
It's notorious at Best Buy, at least in NC. It goes from a joking, friendly atmosphere(with no managers present)--to the most uptight and stuffy working environment that people call in sick if it's a scheduled visit.
Me comprehend? does anything in that post state that i dont believe the GW make a big deal out of it?
Does this sentence from me mean nothing?
LunaHound wrote:Just like if some celebrity is there lol...
I guess the hilarity of it is that the Op feels that it's only GW that does this. At any retailer, restaurant, place of business there is always a more "professional" and uptight atmosphere.
I know when I walk into Best Buy when the DM is there as the staff seem a lot more serious and everywhere you walk you get someone in a blue shirt asking you if you need help, if you do don't hesitate to ask. It's common courtesy and you are supposed to offer assistance but you can just feel the tension in the air. Same goes for wait staff. I know their mannerisms so well I can tell whenever one of the big shots is present. The air changes.
He might have seemed pushy but if he's feeling under pressure he might not have known how it was making you feel. Complaining to the manager would have resulted in more than walking away and than posting about it on the web.
Doing that just makes you look like a 12yo crying for attention.
just so EVERYONE is clear, I am not crying about my ONE bad trip to a GW store. This was my FIRST run in with a GW guy like this, it was a little un-nerving. I am NOT trying to Insult, whine, or complain. I started the poll/thread to see if my experience was unique or not. Also this guy WAS NOT a red shirt, he TOLD ME he was the DISTRICT MANAGER. I have had NO problems with a red shirt.
As it stands, I DID write a letter to GW Customer Service, since this guy was the District Manager, and that's where to go from there. I am not just "blasting GW" on the internet because I got my feelings hurt, this was the other day, i've had to THINK about my expirience, and decided to do a quick poll to see if my experience was a singularity or the norm.
Speak appropriately. If your words are not understood, then you don't understand your words.
I understood what he was saying. It's not always easy to accurately describe events that depend on experience within a context in sarcastic or semi inflammatory fashion while having that context simultaneously be well understood or accepted. The sentiment hinged on the understanding it attempted to convey having been understood previous to the statement being stated for it's content to be understood.
Speak appropriately. If your words are not understood, then you don't understand your words.
I understood what he was saying. It's not always easy to accurately describe events that depend on experience within a context in sarcastic or semi inflammatory fashion while having that context simultaneously be well understood or accepted. The sentiment hinged on the understanding it attempted to convey having been understood previous to the statement being stated for it's content to be understood.
wow that is awesome... no sarcasm intended. only admiration!
ShumaGorath wrote:
I understood what he was saying. It's not always easy to accurately describe events that depend on experience within a context in sarcastic or semi inflammatory fashion while having that context simultaneously be well understood or accepted. The sentiment hinged on the understanding it attempted to convey having been understood previous to the statement being stated for it's content to be understood.
Yes, I know he's fat. That's not a legitimate excuse (in my mind).
ShumaGorath wrote:
I understood what he was saying. It's not always easy to accurately describe events that depend on experience within a context in sarcastic or semi inflammatory fashion while having that context simultaneously be well understood or accepted. The sentiment hinged on the understanding it attempted to convey having been understood previous to the statement being stated for it's content to be understood.
Yes, I know he's fat. That's not a legitimate excuse (in my mind).
LunaHound wrote:Not quoting another member's name , but supposedly he said if you arnt enjoying GW's sales pitch or you are having issues with them , its supposed to be our own fault for been socially challenged.
Whoever said this, is an assmaster. Not their post, not their style or their outlook. THEY are a slow.
dogma wrote:I get pushed all the time. I'm not sure if it's because I don't look like a gamer, or if it's simply a result of their boldness.
It's because you can't be a gamer and still be that sexy. Fact.
hcordes wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:So wait.
Once again, run this by me.
The guy who DOESN'T know you is the one who gave you the spiel?
My God. You poor thing. I'm sure you must be absolutely traumatized!
why are you being a jerk?? you work for GW or something??
And I told him more than enough, and me AND my wife's body language said we were UNCOMFORTABLE with his over aggresiveness, and he continued to push. That is my complaint.
Thick skin. It's useful.
LunaHound wrote:hcordes , quoting from someone wise that once told me:
keep in mind that its hard for most people (especially American men) to account for the experiences of others.
Not saying you're wrong in taking offense, simply providing some information.
What in the wide, wide world of feth are you talking about Luna?
grizgrin wrote:
What in the wide, wide world of feth are you talking about Luna?
Dont push it mister
but to be constructive i'll explain it i guess.
Its meant to say that some people only see /believes in incidents only themselves have experienced
while completely shut out / deny what others tell they have experienced.
I have been careful in remove that person's name from the quote that i forgot to remove the
american men part out.
Hence is why you see , i just gave an opening for myself to be trolled.
grizgrin wrote:
What in the wide, wide world of feth are you talking about Luna?
Dont push it mister
but to be constructive i'll explain it i guess.
Its meant to say that some people only see /believes in incidents only themselves have experienced
while completely shut out / deny what others tell they have experienced.
I have been careful in remove that person's name from the quote that i forgot to remove the
american men part out.
Hence is why you see , i just gave an opening for myself to be trolled.
Again.
You are making generalizations about Americans and go to try and call me out for language? Really?
So what you are describing sounds to be a specific subset of empirical thinking. Dogma, I'm sure you have a name for it, care to wade in?
As far as the quote, I'd wager you are avoiding the name for a good reason (and i will respect that) so I am not pushing for the name. But htey are still a slow.
The original context was that massive FUBAR'd thread about Redshirt experiences where I made the statement that "If you have some kind of problem with something as simple as a 'Hello, how can I help you?' from a redshirt--you might need to work on your social skills, because they're dysfunctional" or something to that effect.
I once had a Walmart employee ask me if I needed help. I was like "sure, where can I find some rope, a shovel and some lime and could you point me to the nearest HS).
i like how this thread turned into a "he said, she said" ridiculous stereo typical online arguement where a bunch grown men act like children. awesome.
Kanluwen wrote:Actually, Griz, she's quoting me out of context.
The original context was that massive FUBAR'd thread about Redshirt experiences where I made the statement that "If you have some kind of problem with something as simple as a 'Hello, how can I help you?' from a redshirt--you might need to work on your social skills, because they're dysfunctional" or something to that effect.
Yeah, some might wonder why I glazed right on over that.
Just posted that video for those words "he said, she said".
So what if I do? I also listen to Johnny Cash, Hank Jr, and my collection of black, death, goth, and all other metals under the sun fills the trunk of my car if I put all the cd's I have in towers in the trunk of my car.
Thats why i have been banned while trolls lare still here in dakka and well.
Justice?
Well if they give one person multiple chances they have to give others. I know fateweavers been banned, I'm pretty sure gwar has, and I think GBF has been banned even more times than myself (possibly). The only one I can remember off the top of my head that got a permaban was stelek, though I'm sure there have been others. Either way, try to shy away from outright insults or dirty language, that'll get you picked up by the modpolice faster than virtually anything else. Being banned is reserved for the real trolls, just not the posters with short tempers .
Thats why i have been banned while trolls lare still here in dakka and well.
Justice?
Well if they give one person multiple chances they have to give others. I know fateweavers been banned, I'm pretty sure gwar has, and I think GBF has been banned even more times than myself (possibly). The only one I can remember off the top of my head that got a permaban was stelek, though I'm sure there have been others. Either way, try to shy away from outright insults or dirty language, that'll get you picked up by the modpolice faster than virtually anything else. Being banned is reserved for the real trolls, just not the posters with short tempers .
Fateweaver wrote:Naw, compared to most that troll you aren't even close. I think I'm a bigger troll than you Luna.
Pew, pew, pew. I'm killing eZombies with my illegally obtained eAK-47.
Good , because if i get banned again before the troll does , heaven will lose all hope in humanity -_-
and no you cannot , not even log in account.
Unless you create another account , but i assume they'll be watching your action and give you perma ban
if you creat an alt account.
Oh and shuma , i dont think i have ever insulted anyone in dakka before on my own conscious unless you count the time it was from me quoting someone else.
Infact , im so worried about insulting someone here that i wanted to ask something for the longest time but decided not to , because i might offend him with the question.
Even though me and others just curious.
Fateweaver wrote:Bah, I don't worry bout offending someone. In this world you'll find someone offended by your haircut or your clothes or the way you talk.
Actually if you follow the thread , you'll see how it escalated , and by whom it escalated by.
Im just worried that mods dont check.
You and I both know how I feel about 4 individuals for sure that lurk in OT and one other that has never set foot in OT land and none of the 5 are Kan.
You and I both know how I feel about 4 individuals for sure that lurk in OT and one other that has never set foot in OT land and none of the 5 are Kan.
LunaHound wrote:Not quoting another member's name , but supposedly he said if you arnt enjoying GW's sales pitch or you are having issues with them , its supposed to be our own fault for been socially challenged.
When you start off a thread by purposefully misquoting someone and then saying something as ridiculous as "not quoting another member's name" like that gets you off the hook for a sneaky and underhanded tactic...
You've pretty much set the atmosphere of the thread right there.
If Obama was smart he'd stay away from Dakka. Though it would be good political maneuver as he could use the percentage of people that like him on Dakka and use that to "prove" that he is more popular than he was 12 months ago.
Wow, if I was a democrat I'd be encouraging Obama to post on Dakka.
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dogma wrote:
Fateweaver wrote:Haha.
Yeah, I won't comment on that dogma.
You and I both know how I feel about 4 individuals for sure that lurk in OT and one other that has never set foot in OT land and none of the 5 are Kan.
I've never had a problem in a GW Store. Ever. They show me the new stuff, and I've either decided I'm getting it, or decided I'm not getting it long before I entered the store. Say the same to them, and communicate like a human being.
Sadly, DM in question sounds like he might have been demonstrating something to the other staff (one hopes it was the wrong way to do things) and you just happened to land in the wrong place at the wrong time.
LunaHound wrote:Not quoting another member's name , but supposedly he said if you arnt enjoying GW's sales pitch or you are having issues with them , its supposed to be our own fault for been socially challenged.
When you start off a thread by purposefully misquoting someone and then saying something as ridiculous as "not quoting another member's name" like that gets you off the hook for a sneaky and underhanded tactic...
You've pretty much set the atmosphere of the thread right there.
Underhanded? I dont think so. If i quoted your name right away , that would have sparked a war again.
If i left the name out which i did , it atleast gave you a chance to think " hmm maybe i was wrong to have said that to her "
And you know something? Here is something "real"
this thread isnt about you or me. Its about OP . And you attacked OP early since PAGE 1
All i did was stand up for him , knowing perfectly well that you'll ignore your actions on hcordes while going right back on me.
Its funny , because a bunch of us had a convo in PM when this was going on.
And i went ahead and redirected the fight you 2 had towards myself , because the last thing i want is for you to successfully get some
innocent new member banned while you get away with it.
So , if i get banned for this , so be it . Atleast it wont be him. And there is no way you can walk clean out of this one either.
There will be justice.
Oh and here is another quote of you , that you seem to have zero feelings or 2nd thoughts about.
Kanluwen wrote:So wait.
Once again, run this by me.
The guy who DOESN'T know you is the one who gave you the spiel?
My God. You poor thing. I'm sure you must be absolutely traumatized!
Unfortunately there are no mods on to take care of this when it first happend at page 1 , because by few pages later i have lost my patience against your BS.
Now I KNOW KK and Frazz and RedS8n are asleep, getting drunk, getting laid or both because this thread (and a few others) deteriorated hours ago into a flame war and nothing has been done yet.
I mean isn't it like 9AM in GB? It's 3AM in Tx so Frazz probably is asleep.
Actually, since you want to get technical, my first post was in response to your little underhanded attempt at being clever.
Which I made sure to report before ever even posting in this thread, given that it was pretty obvious.
And since this is all about you:
Get the feth over yourself. You're not martyring yourself for some new member. You're pulling your standard passive/aggressive BS and then attempting to claim the high ground after you're called on it.
But hey. Might as well end the thread on a high note.
Kanluwen wrote:Actually, since you want to get technical, my first post was in response to your little underhanded attempt at being clever.
Which I made sure to report before ever even posting in this thread, given that it was pretty obvious.
And since this is all about you:
Get the feth over yourself. You're not martyring yourself for some new member. You're pulling your standard passive/aggressive BS and then attempting to claim the high ground after you're called on it.
But hey. Might as well end the thread on a high note.
Im sure most of are dying to see this , including myself.
Show me whats underhanded in my quote please
Well Luna we won't see justice served. I'll probably be banned too by morning.
No hard feelings Luna. I know I didn't attack you and I have no problems with Kan so don't hate me.
It really is amazing this thread has lasted this long. It should have been put down at page 1 about 4 hours ago when the mods were awake (I know because KK posted in an OT thread about 5 hours ago).
hcordes wrote:i like how this thread turned into a "he said, she said" ridiculous stereo typical online arguement where a bunch grown men act like children. awesome.
Indeed.
Must be Monday morning already then. Whole bunch of Pms to be sent. Thanks.
