Hello guys,

As you may have heard we have been working very hard over the past year on a top secret project. Well, here it is. It’s the Battle Foam X-Board Travel Display. This is the industry’s first modular travel display board that will allow gamers to show off their armies while on the road. This plastic injection molded board is built like a tank and comes fully textured ready for dry brushing and flocking. The construction of the board is meant to support a full metal army and will not collapse or bow.

The most exciting part about the X-Board is that it comes completely apart and makes for easy airport travel. The board measures 24” x 18” when assembled but breaks down to half that size while on the go. One other great feature is that the X-Board works for any game system. Regardless if you play 40k, Fantasy, Warmachine, Hordes, FOW, or any other miniature game.

Future releases will include different removable panels that will allow for an even more customized look to your board. Trench lines, water features, and even lava fields are in the works. Every X-Board comes unpainted and unassembled but includes an easy to use carry sack to keep your painted pieces from rubbing together.

The X-Board will be available in the next couple of months and will completely change the way people display their armies. Look for more information to go up on the Battle Foam website next month.

MSRP $65.00

Romeo
Battle Foam
Protecting Your Army

Wow - new products Romeo. You never fail to amaze =P Price tag?

Sweetness

Very clever idea, and looks good.

Looks great, too bad my ork army is too big fit on that. Might get one for my new marines though.

I think i got my display board for tournies that award painting scores.


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Nice work guys.

I'm interested in the add on parts described.

How thick are the inserts?
You say its 24” x 18” so I'm assuming each piece is 12" x 18" right?

Other than price, which is pretty awesome for what it is, is there anything this thing does that you couldn't do with a Realm of Battle segment?

Nice!

I thought there was another secret project that was supposed to unveiled soon, too? A bag between the size of two of your other ones...?

Will these be available at or before Adepticon?

Commander Endova wrote:Other than price, which is pretty awesome for what it is, is there anything this thing does that you couldn't do with a Realm of Battle segment?

If they are truly coming out with expansion tiles, it sound like you could play games on varied terrain, instead of boring 'ol... pits with skulls in them (did that ever make sense to anybody? Do tell, I never got why they were there). Plus, this makes a great sized board for skirmish games (get two, have a 4'x3' table) for much cheaper than the RoB board.

Edit - WOW completely missed that these are a display board, not a game board . Makes sense for the dimensions, but I'd like to think that my points still stand, just change "play games" to "display models" (or keep it on play, I think it'd work for it). Plus, it's a looooot cheaper than a RoB segment.

It all flows with the grimdark that is 40k do not question the grimdark it is simply too grim and dark to understand!!!! GRIMDARK! ...no it makes no sense.

I like it. Any way to get custom inserts for that?

I'd be all over one with an army logo in the center.

Great idea! I'd love a necron symbol carved into the center!

Very nice Romeo!

G

Can you put 2 together to make a bigger one?

That seems cool yet somewhat expensive...

It's two pieces of flat plastic and a frame...

It's probably that I'm just dense...

Sold! Can't wait to see them for sale.

Hello,

Sonofruss - No, sorry but the outer rails only fit together to make one display. The X-Board is meant to keep traveling light so it can go everywhere you go.

blood angel - I don't know what you mean by custom inserts but for an added cost you could have a specific logo or image engraved into the board.

Sarrazon - I'm sure with enough of them you could build a huge game board but we never tried.

NecronLord3 - We are planning on having these at Adepticon for viewing. We will also bring a small batch to the show for sales. Being that we are bringing so many bags we are limited on travel space. Pre-Orders for these will be up on our site on the 15th of March.

RiTides - Yes, we are unveiling the 720 next week and that also will be at Adepticon and on our site for pre-order on the 15th.

Commander Endova - Considering that the board is 24 x 18 and breaks down into half that size it does the one thing the realms of battle does not. It makes it possible to travel with your display as carry on.

Foda_Bett - You are almost dead on. The boards are an extra thick 1" and really make the board bomb proof when it comes to its panels.

Vindicator#9 - That's great to hear. I personally got killed every event because of the lack of display and this I hope will solve that problem for most.

Thanks

Romeo
Battle Foam
Protecting Your Army

Will we be able to pre-order on the site and pick up at Adepticon?

All you need to do now is expand on the idea, release tiles for a table, that just happen to link in perfectly with the GW ones, undercut GW by 30%, and let me buy some.

Am I right in figuring that it would take eight of them to make a standard 6' x 4' board? That would make these more expensive per square foot than the GW board which everyone on these forums LOVES to complain about.

Since BF has moved to the realm of injection molding, please tell us that you will create your own version of the modular gaming table and sell it in sets or as 2' sections alone? PLEASE!!!

If you do I'll buy at least 2 tables worth and just to motivate you I'll also buy a full bag workup for my 3 current armies!!!!

You have no idea(well maybe you do) as to how huge of a market you would have if you priced it right. I know that setup costs for injection molding is steep, but I could see this being a huge seller.

That being said, I will very much be buying 2 of these for my lizardmen and my wife's dark elves.

Sgt Diablo wrote:

blood angel - I don't know what you mean by custom inserts but for an added cost you could have a specific logo or image engraved into the board.

Yep, that pretty much answers the question. Any idea what that cost would be?

Thanks.

I don't understand - What purpose does this serve? I'm not being rude or trolling. Disclaimer: I've gotten BF products and have been happy with them. I assume this is also well made.

I just don't understand what this is for?

Breotan wrote:Am I right in figuring that it would take eight of them to make a standard 6' x 4' board? That would make these more expensive per square foot than the GW board which everyone on these forums LOVES to complain about.

It's a ridiculous comparison, though. Like comparing two mopeds with a Prius because put together, they have the same amount of wheels.

Agamemnon2 wrote:It's a ridiculous comparison, though. Like comparing two mopeds with a Prius because put together, they have the same amount of wheels.

Except in this case the two mopeds wind up costing more than the Prius.

Ouze wrote:I don't understand - What purpose does this serve? I'm not being rude or trolling. Disclaimer: I've gotten BF products and have been happy with them. I assume this is also well made.

I just don't understand what this is for?

When attending tournaments you often need to leave your army out to be judged for painting/appearance and then when you return after the lunch/break you need to immediately pick up your army and transport it to your next game to start playing, so you don't really have time to pack your army up to move it, or else you're left starting your next game late.

Some people simply use simple dinner serving trays to set their army on...but honestly this doesn't present your army very well to the judges and/or other players who may be voting for a 'players choice' award in the tournament.

Those players who are more talented with terrain building often construct an army terrain tray for displaying/transporting their army in tournaments, but this requires a bit of skill that not everyone possesses AND these items are pretty unwieldy in a suitcase if you're traveling by plane.


This product seems to fill that void...you can buy a board to display/carry your army at tournaments and it deconstructs to for travel convenience. While not for every gamer, this seems like a fantastic niche-filler IMHO and you can consider me SOLD.


Great job Romeo!

Thanks for that. Glad you got the email.

Romeo

No comment on a future game board?! PLEASE!!!!


BTW you're up late. Don't you have to work in the morning?

yeah,
Looks good.
Once assembled, how strong is it?
Can you carry your army around ontop of it, or will it collapse?

Panic...

Wow, that looks pretty cool

I love the idea of a trench system board. Though I don't really play/display enough to warrent getting one :(

If I win the lottery though, I will get several

As to your earlier point that the rods do not connect together to form larger display bases - I think that such a display base would have its place and the idea is certainly worth looking at seriously, even if in the end you decide that you have already invested enough on the current design, and retooling to a new design would outweigh the benefits of being able to construct larger display bases.

cool idea. i am curious to see how it is assembled that you can put a heavy load of large metal models on it to not risk falling apart, must be a pretty clever system.
im not a tournament goer but if i was i would certainly want a set of tiles topped with or made of sheet metal for magnetized bases.

Please tell me your also going to look into terrain board sets! 4x4 plastic terrain boards would make you millions!! MILLIONS!!!

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:All you need to do now is expand on the idea, release tiles for a table, that just happen to link in perfectly with the GW ones, undercut GW by 30%, and let me buy some.

Now that's something I'd be interested in, this doesn't really fit anywhere into my needs.

Superscope wrote:Please tell me your also going to look into terrain board sets! 4x4 plastic terrain boards would make you millions!! MILLIONS!!!

I'd rather have one foot square boards, I have the RoB and two foot square tiles are just too unwieldy rreally. Plus smaller tiles mean more variation and cheaper expansion sets.

Wow this guy is really trying to make people spend money on things! Clever. It is plastic that you have to paint? Why not have one that is already painted without a huge seam in the middle? Nice idea.

Panic wrote:Once assembled, how strong is it?
Can you carry your army around ontop of it, or will it collapse?

I'd like to know the answer to that question, too!

It looks like it has recessed handles on the ends, and combined with the reinforcing beam in the centre it looks like it is designed to carry stuff around on.

Just when I thought I had seen everything in this hobby ...

Great idea, Romeo !! It looks really well-made and sturdy.

Next, you need to offer the option of a clear acrylic cover for it I don't do tourneys but I do display my models at home.

Literally all I can say romeo is wow. So many people have complained about traveling with their boards and seeing how you jsut did ti will have fixed that porblem for many people. the price is amazing too not gonna lit so cheers to that.

Yawn....

Romeo, will you be making inserts without the molded hill?

Maxstreel - We will have several inserts over the coming months and we may have something without the hills. I know the next 4 boards have already been designed and they all have features.

RiTides - I designed the board to carry really heavy models from table to table without any problems. When doing weight tests I took my entire Cygnar army along with my Cryx and placed as many metal models together as possible. I had over 20 jacks and every model was base to base across the entire board. Not only did the board support the models but we had no flexing or bowing of any kind. When we do the review video on it next month you'll be able to see it for yourself with models and weight tests.

Everyone - These will be available at Adepticon for pre view. We may also bring a few to sell but we have a huge amount of bag going to the show already and space is limited.

Romeo
Battle Foam
Protecting Your Army

Sold!

Nice, I look forward to the trenches and water features x-board. From the broken down view, I assume the dimensions are 12" x 18" when in the bag?

You guys rock.

Also, I wanted to put my 2 cents out there regarding the new Warmachine bags. I received mine in the mail the other day, and it's fantastic.

Keep up the great work.

I'd hit it.

orkyorky wrote:Wow this guy is really trying to make people spend money on things! Clever. It is plastic that you have to paint? Why not have one that is already painted without a huge seam in the middle? Nice idea.

The problem is that a display board needs to be broken down for travel, so there will be a seam (or you can use some conversion work to hide it). On of the biggest problems for people who fly to events is to have a decent display board. If you are local you can take whatever you want, but if you are flying you need a display board that can fit in your luggage.


And to expand on the point Yakface made, not only do people use it to carry their armies around at tournaments, but a lot of tournaments are grading you on your display base.

Here are the rules from the Broadside Bash last week:
Display Base Bonus (1–3pts): If your army includes a display base (it must be large enough to fit your army onto) it can be worth bonus points for your paint score. Display bases will be judged to be Tournament Quality, Fine Detail Quality, or Master Class quality. Tournament quality display bases are worth one bonus point and are very basic; mostly being used to just transport your army from table–to–table and give in a common display area (a flat board with a hill or a couple of trees). Fine Detail quality display bases are worth two bonus points and are meant to tie the theme of the army together even more (a castle background with extra conversions, bodies hanging from the wall, etc.). Master Class quality display bases are worth three bonus points. They are really works of art and not only tie the army theme together but in conjunction with the army models play out a scene in front of you.


Here is the scoring from the Adepticon Championships:
Display Base (Check the one that applies)

No display base, Rubber Maid lid, etc.= 0 points
Basic, just one flock= 1 point
Multiple flock, or painted with highlights one flock, framed edge: 2 points
Multiple flock, or painted with highlights one flock, terrain elements, shading and highlighting of elements= 4 points
Intricate diorama that just ‘wows’ the judge= 5 points

So I might dive over to Gilbert and pick one up before Adepticon.

Sgt Diablo wrote:When we do the review video on it next month you'll be able to see it for yourself with models and weight tests.

Don't forget the -now requisite- "Fat guy standing on it" test.

After all, ou don't want GW making you look bad. Right? ; )

Eric

Fantastic idea AND brought to reality. Great job.

- Blackbone

Great idea. I'll definitely be considering one of these.

Why oh why Romeo can't it be ready before Adepticon. I've been agonizing over making a display board that fits in my suitcase and this would make my life so much easier.

This would have been great for me at Conquest Seattle. I got -5 points for not having a display board, which then hurt me in the painting category. I just don't have the time to make some elaborate display board, especially one large enough for my Orks that is also effective for travel. X-Board seems relatively easy on the wallet for what it does, effective in design and especially good for us tourney players. I'm soo going to be looking for you guys at Adepticon so I can get my hands on one of these. One of the best products I’ve seen in awhile.

Can I reserve one? lol

nevermind, I tried reading the whole thread (d'oh!)

Breotan wrote:Am I right in figuring that it would take eight of them to make a standard 6' x 4' board? That would make these more expensive per square foot than the GW board which everyone on these forums LOVES to complain about.

I think you're missing the point, Breotan.

The point here is to have a collapsable display board for your army of uberness to look uber on during the obligatory non-uber paint judging at GT style events. That this thing can be collapsed to be a carry on on our every-increasingly nazi-esque airlines (not that I particularly mind their newish policies on baggage, everyone has a bottom line) is exactly what makes it uberfied.

While you could slap several together to form a table on, that isn't their intended purpose, and the price point doesn't apply to unintended uses. The price point is based on what it DOES.


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aerethan wrote:No comment on a future game board?! PLEASE!!!!


BTW you're up late. Don't you have to work in the morning?

I'll bet dollars to pesos he was still at work.

Breotan wrote:

Agamemnon2 wrote:It's a ridiculous comparison, though. Like comparing two mopeds with a Prius because put together, they have the same amount of wheels.

Except in this case the two mopeds wind up costing more than the Prius.

Yeah, but they're still two fething mopeds. I.e. the comparison is still fething meaningless. Were you born this stupid or did you take lessons?

Agamemnon2 wrote:

Breotan wrote:

Agamemnon2 wrote:It's a ridiculous comparison, though. Like comparing two mopeds with a Prius because put together, they have the same amount of wheels.

Except in this case the two mopeds wind up costing more than the Prius.

Yeah, but they're still two fething mopeds. I.e. the comparison is still fething meaningless. Were you born this stupid or did you take lessons?

Surely if you take lessons on being stupid and learn to be stupid you aren't stupid because you have learnt something. Wow, did I just divide by zero?

Agamemnon2 wrote:Yeah, but they're still two fething mopeds. I.e. the comparison is still fething meaningless. Were you born this stupid or did you take lessons?

Let's take a look, shall we?

1. You violated Rule #1 (click on the link above!). For clarity, you called another poster stupid. This is "Rude".

2. Profanity. Just because our profanity filter picks it up doesn't mean you should still say it.

You also have a history of this sort of behavior and have skirted the edge of the Dakka Rules. Further violations of the Dakka rules will result in disciplinary action.

Lorek wrote:

Agamemnon2 wrote:Yeah, but they're still two fething mopeds. I.e. the comparison is still fething meaningless. Were you born this stupid or did you take lessons?

Let's take a look, shall we?

1. You violated Rule #1 (click on the link above!). For clarity, you called another poster stupid. This is "Rude".

2. Profanity. Just because our profanity filter picks it up doesn't mean you should still say it.

You also have a history of this sort of behavior and have skirted the edge of the Dakka Rules. Further violations of the Dakka rules will result in disciplinary action.

mmm ... must disagree with you there. If it is the truth why would it necessarily be rude. I am over-weigh - some people would call me fat. Calling some-one fat shouldn't be rude. If you post something that is illogical on a forum for all the world to revel in you debating skills don't you deserves to be call stupid when you don't make sense. I will agree that parts of the last sentence were excess, but somewhat amusing, and is rude but calling someone stupid isn't.

Sorry, Fullhead. Just because something is true doesn't make it "not rude" it just makes it "not libel". Our rule is against rudeness, which is a lower threshold for offense.

Respectfully, the Mods are paid this extravagant amount of money to keep the peace, and they disagree with your assessment, nor are they particularly inclined to discuss the terms as written by the Great and All Powerful Yakface. To disagree with the sacred words of the Tau of Yakface is to invite heresy...

I believe the terms were originally set by Russ, begging your pardon grumpy old sheriff.

Anyway, here's my question:

Will judges now start to consider prefab less quality than scratch built?

But affirmed by Russ so nana!

Mannahnin wrote:Sorry, Fullhead. Just because something is true doesn't make it "not rude" it just makes it "not libel". Our rule is against rudeness, which is a lower threshold for offense.

Ok, I can agree that asking Breotan "Were you born this stupid or did you take lessons?" was a tad rude and I understand that rule #1 is there to facilitate intelligent discourse. I can also agree that Aggy has a history of this - but come on, at some point surely someone needs to understand that the point they are making is dumb. I suppose you could politely point out that they are stupid, rather akin to saying someone is "economic with the actuality" as opposed to be a "big fat liar" as I referred to a poster the other day.

However, I find it a tad disingenous to point out that some-one is relying onto the swear filter. If there is meant to be no swearing why not just block the words or a post that contains swear words. Is not having a swear filter enabling rude behavior. The position you (as in Mods & Yak) take on this does't make logical sense and I think it needs addressing.

fullheadofhair wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:Sorry, Fullhead. Just because something is true doesn't make it "not rude" it just makes it "not libel". Our rule is against rudeness, which is a lower threshold for offense.

Ok, I can agree that asking Breotan "Were you born this stupid or did you take lessons?" was a tad rude and I understand that rule #1 is there to facilitate intelligent discourse. I can also agree that Aggy has a history of this - but come on, at some point surely someone needs to understand that the point they are making is dumb. I suppose you could politely point out that they are stupid, rather akin to saying someone is "economic with the actuality" as opposed to be a "big fat liar" as I referred to a poster the other day.

To quote Heinlein: "I was not making fun of you personally - I was heaping scorn on an inexcusably silly idea - a practice I shall always follow."
To is perfectly possible (and permissible!) to address the logic of someone's position, without resorting to ad hominem attacks on the person themselves.

We're wandering rather afield, though.

Romeo, is there no way you can have these shipping by early March? I'd dearly love to buy one pre-Adepticon, with enough time to receive & paint it. Also, for future inserts: consider making some flat ones, to let us model on top of. (Also, it'd let us apply magnetic/metal sheeting, which would be handy for those who embed magnets into their bases.)

Modquisition on.
Lets take this private fullheadofhair and drop it from this thread.

We are trying to get them here as we speak. These are being made in China and require us to have them shipped by boat. After all we are shipping thousands, not hundreds so it does take a bit. Our hopes is to have them in our warehouse by Adepticon but customs always makes the call.

Sometimes containers can get stopped for days or even weeks for customs to inspect them. I just don't want to make promises that I'll be forced to break because of shipping delays.

I will promise that if at all posible I will have them out for Adepticon. I do know for sure that they will be available for pre-order on the 15th of March but other then that the hard ship date has not been set. We will know more in two weeks. Please stand by and we'll keep everyone informed as we know more.

Thanks

Romeo

Ozymandias wrote:Why oh why Romeo can't it be ready before Adepticon. I've been agonizing over making a display board that fits in my suitcase and this would make my life so much easier.

I agree. I am in the same boat as you. This piece has also been the deciding factor for me not to make a tray of my own.

I really think you are going to miss out on major sales if this thing isn't ready at or before Adepticon, Romeo. I guarantee you I will not be buying any battlefoam(I already have an army transport) I guarantee you I would buy this tray at or before Adepticon if you make it available. If not I might pick one up IF I attend another tournament in the future.

Rom,

Nice idea, I can see merits of it.

Question, Considering quite a few of us oldergamers who are ignored by GW as not been core market also on the whole have displays at home, consideration to a "rail" system to "fit" shelving units ?

or perhaps have the ability to slot on to cabinet shelf pins

Also have you considered free standing "Rests" or stands ?

Sgt Diablo wrote:We are trying to get them here as we speak. These are being made in China and require us to have them shipped by boat. After all we are shipping thousands, not hundreds so it does take a bit. Our hopes is to have them in our warehouse by Adepticon but customs always makes the call.

Sometimes containers can get stopped for days or even weeks for customs to inspect them. I just don't want to make promises that I'll be forced to break because of shipping delays.

I will promise that if at all posible I will have them out for Adepticon. I do know for sure that they will be available for pre-order on the 15th of March but other then that the hard ship date has not been set. We will know more in two weeks. Please stand by and we'll keep everyone informed as we know more.

Thanks

Romeo

China, eh? Okay, I won't lick it when I get one, as I don't need any more cadmium in my diet.

Thanks for the explanation. I fully understand customs issues (although I rarely associate them with my hobbies; my wife, with her garage kits, seems more customs flak than I).

It still comes down to the point that people on this site whine and moan at every nickle GW charges for pretty much anything. When GW released their 6' x 4' board, the bitching pretty much became a cacophony. Now BF releases a board that is demonstrably more expensive and more nitch-oriented than GW's and everyone loves it - to the point of personally (and repeatedly) insulting me because I disagree and dare to point out the "cons" while everyone else sings on an on about the "pros". Yes, the BF display is collapsable but you can easily take a single 2' section of GW's board and use it for your display. Given that GW's 2' x ,2' section is only marginally bigger than a pizza box, I don't see this as being an unfair comparison or a huge burden of space when travelling.

A previous poster suggested that BF make a regular sized board and undercut GW's prices. I may be wrong, but given the price of this display product I think it is unlikely to happen.

Breotan, you're still missing the point.

This is NOT INTENDED AS A GAMING TABLE. This is a display board for an individual gamer to display their tournament army on, and on which to carry said army from table to table between games at said tourney. It's collapsible to solve the problem of carrying your board if you're flying to tournaments.

Anyone who flies to GTs on any kind of regular basis, and who would find this appealing, probably could afford the Realm of Battle board. So I am highly skeptical that any of the people in this thread, interested in this product, were complaining about the price of the RoBb.

Breotan wrote:It still comes down to the point that people on this site whine and moan at every nickle GW charges for pretty much anything. When GW released their 6' x 4' board, the bitching pretty much became a cacophony. Now BF releases a board that is demonstrably more expensive and more nitch-oriented than GW's and everyone loves it - to the point of personally (and repeatedly) insulting me because I disagree and dare to point out the "cons" while everyone else sings on an on about the "pros". Yes, the BF display is collapsable but you can easily take a single 2' section of GW's board and use it for your display. Given that GW's 2' x ,2' section is only marginally bigger than a pizza box, I don't see this as being an unfair comparison or a huge burden of space when travelling.

A previous poster suggested that BF make a regular sized board and undercut GW's prices. I may be wrong, but given the price of this display product I think it is unlikely to happen.

I can fit a 12"x18" footprint into my luggage. I cannot fit a 2"x2" footprint.

It really is that simple.

This is a nice product. I can see them selling like hotcakes.

In general I like the concept and the product looks good, but a one-size-fits-all display does run into the problem of some armies simply taking up obscene amounts of room. My current Vendetta heavy IG list fits somewhat comfortably on a realm of battle tile at 24"x24", but getting it to go an 18"x24" just wouldn't work. I've also made displays for a few customers and while many armies could fit on this pretty easily a few (DE paper air force, IG mech, foot Orks) need something more like a 24" square.

I can see the arguement for making it carry-on friendly and for most armies this would work fine, but it would be nice to see a larger version.

Wow, very very cool, makes a lot of plain sense. Will we be seeing these April 16 at Slaughter in Space?

I think this is great. I have done the "drill the holes so my models are seamless with the terrain for this GT season" and I am so over that. It was fun, but I will never do it again. Any slight tweak and BAM, half the board is useless as I begin to have empty holes or need extra holes.

So I have no problem using a blank board my models sit on top of. If I lose points, I am cool with that. I care about making my life easy at this point in my gaming career.

This fits that role for me. Sure I can make my own board, I just don't really care to as I can customize this board highly and make it look great and still fold it up and transport it to tourneys.

Consider me advance advance ordered.

Any chance of getting a few shots with different armies displayed? Maybe an infantry heavy and a mech heavy?

I've got a few ideas for my Valks/ Vulteres depending on the construction of the panels. What were they made of again?

Mannahnin wrote:Breotan, you're still missing the point.

Actually, I think you're missing my point. If this exact display table were made by GW at this exact same price instead of by BF, the responses would be completely opposite of what they are in this thread. Other people would have made the same price comparison I did much earlier and run much farther with it. Still others would have already mentioned how you can do the exact same thing with foam, paint, and tape for a lot less money. The guys who love to build their own displays would have decried the board as boring and unimaginative. The supporting posts would be almost non-existant. But this display isn't made by GW, it's made by BF and for that reason alone the fawning happens and derision is heaped upon dissenter. Look at the Realm of Battle thread: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/223652.page#460851 The FOURTH reply is the first one that is supportive in any way shape or form with mixed results after that. Why? Because GW made it.

I'm not saying BF shouldn't make and sell what they want or that people shouldn't buy from them. I'm saying that a lot of people on this Dakka are hypocrites and I'm calling them on it.

Ok Breotan, I understand your point but by bring this up you just look like your attacking us. We did nothing wrong here but make a cool product that needed to be made for some gamers. No one product is for everyone that is why we are left with choice.

I just don't see why everyone seems to get so personal about everything we make. We come up with a good idea, it must be ripped apart and dragged in the mud because we are Battle Foam. Wow, if you don't like the board that is ok. We made it for people that need it. We also made it at a very reasonable price for what it is meant to do.

I have 3 display boards that I have made over the years and I can't remember one of them costing me less then $60.00 in parts to make. I also waisted no less then a full weekend on each. For some people time is money and this is just another fast way to get something done to benefit the gamers.

I'm not attacking you here so don't get worked up. I'm just saying that BF threads on Dakka always turn ugly because of posts just like yours. Please be kind to the other opinions on the forum and let people say what they want. Why beat them down because they like it.

I personally don't mind anything you have said but I just want this thread to be left unlocked so I can find out if any of the gamers require future items or ways to make it better.

Thanks for understanding.

Romeo

I don't see why you would compare this product to GW at all. GW doesn't offer anything that competes with it. It is unique in this market, and it has room for expansion. It is a one of a kind product and at a very reasonable price. Also, don't price it by sqare footage compared to a GW table. It has display sides, and the ENTIRE point is that it is carry on friendly for flying. It is made to be small and lightweight.

If and when BF releases a game table THEN we can compare that pound for pound against the GW table.

And if price was no object, I'd rather pay a few bucks more for the BF sections to make a tabel than waste money on the skullpit that is the GW table. releasing specialty tiles in a modular table as mandatory and without immediate options to replace them is slowed. The skull tiles should have been expansions, not mainstays.

I'm personally stoked about it. I'm hoping to see a city scape style board soon. Things with built in rubble and a few flat places to put building parts from ::cough cough:: other companites

Either way I'm probably gonna pick up the basic one regardless since something like this will push me just that much closer to the top 2 spot

Breotan wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:Breotan, you're still missing the point.

Actually, I think you're missing my point. If this exact display table were made by GW at this exact same price instead of by BF, the responses would be completely opposite of what they are in this thread. Other people would have made the same price comparison I did much earlier and run much farther with it. Still others would have already mentioned how you can do the exact same thing with foam, paint, and tape for a lot less money. The guys who love to build their own displays would have decried the board as boring and unimaginative. The supporting posts would be almost non-existant. But this display isn't made by GW, it's made by BF and for that reason alone the fawning happens and derision is heaped upon dissenter. Look at the Realm of Battle thread: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/223652.page#460851 The FOURTH reply is the first one that is supportive in any way shape or form with mixed results after that. Why? Because GW made it.

I'm not saying BF shouldn't make and sell what they want or that people shouldn't buy from them. I'm saying that a lot of people on this Dakka are hypocrites and I'm calling them on it.

This product is appealing to a totally different market segment. Display boards for tourneys and gaming tables are not the same thing and are not designed to be sold to the same audience.

I do need a display board that is portable which I will take with my army to tournaments. I do not need a portable gaming table as most places I play at provide terrain and gaming space. Since they are stores and not frequently transporting thier tables and terrain, the added feature to pay for a portable table is dubious in value so they use custom built tables and terrain.

If I needed to carry a gaming table with me everywhere, or even infrequently, or wanted a table that could pack up at home to be out of the way, i could see the Realm of battle table being useful and I would consider paying the premium for it. Right now I don't need the product.

This product is something I do need, and I feel like I would pay the premium for it.

Different products, different targets, fill different roles... not sure how that makes people hypocrites.

nkelsch wrote:
This product is something I do need, and I feel like I would pay the premium for it.

Different products, different targets, fill different roles... not sure how that makes people hypocrites.

This. I'm planning on pre-ordering this as soon as it becomes available. I'm playing guard and I'm on public transport. This is ideal for my needs.

I would like to see an army on it, if possible.

I just did a mock-up of the 24x18 space, and it fits 5 chimera bodies and a valk base side by side and would fit three rows of that and have room to spare for infantry. As per Romeo's earlier post, that 24 x 18 does not include the side bumpers, so that's a good size.

NecronLord3 wrote:

Ozymandias wrote:Why oh why Romeo can't it be ready before Adepticon. I've been agonizing over making a display board that fits in my suitcase and this would make my life so much easier.

I agree. I am in the same boat as you. This piece has also been the deciding factor for me not to make a tray of my own.

I really think you are going to miss out on major sales if this thing isn't ready at or before Gencon, Romeo. I guarantee you I will not be buying any battlefoam(I already have an army transport) I guarantee you I would buy this tray at or before Gencon if you make it available. If not I might pick one up IF I attend another tournament in the future.

Adepticon is in like a month, Gencon is not till later in the year. They should definitely be ready by then.

I might end up picking one up with some more foam at Gencon if I can get away from my own booth, maybe I'll get lucky and BF will be a neighbor.

Sgt Diablo wrote:I just don't see why everyone seems to get so personal about everything we make. We come up with a good idea, it must be ripped apart and dragged in the mud because we are Battle Foam. Wow, if you don't like the board that is ok. We made it for people that need it. We also made it at a very reasonable price for what it is meant to do.

I don't think people should attack you simply because you are Battle Foam. I also don't think people should attack GW simply because they are GW.

aerethan wrote:I don't see why you would compare this product to GW at all.

nkelsch wrote:This product is appealing to a totally different market segment.

The comparison is there simply to point out that when GW makes something, anything, people come out of the woodwork to cry about the price or value or anything else they can think of. When a company that isn't GW makes something, all those arguments suddenly disappear. They vaporize. Vanish.

Breotan wrote:

Sgt Diablo wrote:I just don't see why everyone seems to get so personal about everything we make. We come up with a good idea, it must be ripped apart and dragged in the mud because we are Battle Foam. Wow, if you don't like the board that is ok. We made it for people that need it. We also made it at a very reasonable price for what it is meant to do.

I don't think people should attack you simply because you are Battle Foam. I also don't think people should attack GW simply because they are GW.

aerethan wrote:I don't see why you would compare this product to GW at all.

nkelsch wrote:This product is appealing to a totally different market segment.

The comparison is there simply to point out that when GW makes something, anything, people come out of the woodwork to cry about the price or value or anything else they can think of. When a company that isn't GW makes something, all those arguments suddenly disappear. They vaporize. Vanish.

There is no reason to keep bringing up that point in this thread. Yes, some people are hypocrites...that is their right (there's no 'anti-hypocrisy' rule here on Dakka and if there were how would that be enforced?).

This thread is about Battlefoam's product, so can we accept that some people may or may not be hypocrites and leave it at that, alright?

Hey Romeo, will there be an option to purchase a tag for the front of the display?

I was curious since it seems to have a spot for it. Thanks!

Hmmm, I think its a great item and although the price is ideal. I think one major reason I wouldnt want to buy them is because it wouldnt be very unique. I know plenty of people at my local gaming store that have BF products and will probably buy this for tournament use. With even just a few people using it, you wouldnt have your army standing out as much as you would if it had been made customly...

Great product but personally (at least in my area) with even just a few people using it, your army might not be as unique as hoped for.

Cyporiean wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:

Ozymandias wrote:Why oh why Romeo can't it be ready before Adepticon. I've been agonizing over making a display board that fits in my suitcase and this would make my life so much easier.

I agree. I am in the same boat as you. This piece has also been the deciding factor for me not to make a tray of my own.

I really think you are going to miss out on major sales if this thing isn't ready at or before Gencon, Romeo. I guarantee you I will not be buying any battlefoam(I already have an army transport) I guarantee you I would buy this tray at or before Gencon if you make it available. If not I might pick one up IF I attend another tournament in the future.

Adepticon is in like a month, Gencon is not till later in the year. They should definitely be ready by then.

I might end up picking one up with some more foam at Gencon if I can get away from my own booth, maybe I'll get lucky and BF will be a neighbor.

I meant adepticon. Using iPod in class typing small.

Buttlerthepug wrote:I think one major reason I wouldnt want to buy them is because it wouldnt be very unique.

Just because a lot of people buy this product doesn't mean they will all show up to the same conventions as you. Paint and flock your board then see how other people are setting up theirs and set yours up a little differently. Plan ahead for how your army should be displayed on a central hill, in a diagonal valley, or with both hills on one edge. The modular design should help you out a little when dealing with a ton of "clones".

NecronLord3 wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:

Ozymandias wrote:Why oh why Romeo can't it be ready before Adepticon. I've been agonizing over making a display board that fits in my suitcase and this would make my life so much easier.

I agree. I am in the same boat as you. This piece has also been the deciding factor for me not to make a tray of my own.

I really think you are going to miss out on major sales if this thing isn't ready at or before Gencon, Romeo. I guarantee you I will not be buying any battlefoam(I already have an army transport) I guarantee you I would buy this tray at or before Gencon if you make it available. If not I might pick one up IF I attend another tournament in the future.

Adepticon is in like a month, Gencon is not till later in the year. They should definitely be ready by then.

I might end up picking one up with some more foam at Gencon if I can get away from my own booth, maybe I'll get lucky and BF will be a neighbor.

I meant adepticon. Using iPod in class typing small.

understandable, I congradulate you on getting your ipod to work with Dakka, mine seems to hate the place.

@Buttler

Add stuff to it I fully intend to use it as a template for my army and will add battlefield accessories/trees whatever matches my army that I buy it for

But yeah, i could see it becoming very prevalent on the tourney circuit.

Interesting product I must say, although I have a problem with it, no its not the price ( I think there is lots of plastic on that frame alone so its a competitive price IMO) its the concept I have problems with.

If I got this display I would have to create holes for my army bases and change the terrain textures and style to my preferences add in a considerable extra cost and time/work to this display... why not built my own from scratch if I have to spend time on it anyway?

As is its a nice starting point for a display but it still needs lots of work to please my Pickyness and nerdyness.
I think it will sell like hotcakes and more power to you to come up with another sucessfull formula.

NAVARRO wrote:Interesting product I must say, although I have a problem with it, no its not the price ( I think there is lots of plastic on that frame alone so its a competitive price IMO) its the concept I have problems with.

If I got this display I would have to create holes for my army bases and change the terrain textures and style to my preferences add in a considerable extra cost and time/work to this display... why not built my own from scratch if I have to spend time on it anyway?

As is its a nice starting point for a display but it still needs lots of work to please my Pickyness and nerdyness.
I think it will sell like hotcakes and more power to you to come up with another sucessfull formula.

I don't think you are quite the target audience for this product!

This shouldn't (and won't) stop highly talented hobbyists like yourself from scratch-building army terrain boards for exactly the reason you pointed out. If you love (and are able) to make personalized boards then you might as well start from scratch, and I hope tournaments that give points for display boards keep rewarding those who do make magnificent display boards cause you deserve it.

But for the rest of us not so gifted folks, this thing looks like just the ticket.

To make
"thousands" without testing it, is a huge risk for a new company. Yea, GW can afford a few losing ideas and games, but this? BF makes great foam. One bad product out there and that is all people remember unfortunately. I know I customize all of my display boards. Using a tray, I create unique displays for very little money. No one wants "clones" of the same thing in the land of creation . Would have been a better idea to 'test market' this before spending a boatload of cash. If everyone is walking around with these boards at a con, where are they going to set them down? People will be clunking into one another.

mangames50 wrote: To make
"thousands" without testing it, is a huge risk for a new company. Yea, GW can afford a few losing ideas and games, but this? BF makes great foam. One bad product out there and that is all people remember unfortunately. I know I customize all of my display boards. Using a tray, I create unique displays for very little money. No one wants "clones" of the same thing in the land of creation . Would have been a better idea to 'test market' this before spending a boatload of cash. If everyone is walking around with these boards at a con, where are they going to set them down? People will be clunking into one another.

The same place everybody already puts their display boards in a tournament...on the table between games and on the floor/chair during a game.

While space-wise it may not be ideal at a tournie to have every gamer walking around with a display board, that *is* what tournaments are pushing for generally, with handing out points to gamers who have them.

Again, nobody's saying you have to go out and buy this and stop making your own display boards...the opposite even. Those who are talented enough to make display boards will have unique ones that showcase their talents. For the other gamers, at least now their armies will look a little better at the tourney and be easier to move around.


And if you're worried about this product being the one that sinks Battlefoam...I think you better take a read at most of the comments in this thread. I think in general the tone would be 'chomping at the bit to get one'.

Mannahnin wrote:Sorry, Fullhead. Just because something is true doesn't make it "not rude" it just makes it "not libel". Our rule is against rudeness, which is a lower threshold for offense.

As a point of law, truth is not in itself a defence against libel in English courts.

yakface wrote:

NAVARRO wrote:Interesting product I must say, although I have a problem with it, no its not the price ( I think there is lots of plastic on that frame alone so its a competitive price IMO) its the concept I have problems with.

If I got this display I would have to create holes for my army bases and change the terrain textures and style to my preferences add in a considerable extra cost and time/work to this display... why not built my own from scratch if I have to spend time on it anyway?

As is its a nice starting point for a display but it still needs lots of work to please my Pickyness and nerdyness.
I think it will sell like hotcakes and more power to you to come up with another sucessfull formula.

I don't think you are quite the target audience for this product!

This shouldn't (and won't) stop highly talented hobbyists like yourself from scratch-building army terrain boards for exactly the
reason you pointed out. If you love (and are able) to make personalized boards then you might as well start from scratch, and I hope tournaments that give points for display boards keep rewarding those who do make magnificent display boards cause you deserve it.

But for the rest of us not so gifted folks, this thing looks like just the ticket.

Yes I agree Im not the target, and thanks for the compliment mate. I have to confess that even so I'm tempted to buy it

Kilkrazy wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:Sorry, Fullhead. Just because something is true doesn't make it "not rude" it just makes it "not libel". Our rule is against rudeness, which is a lower threshold for offense.

As a point of law, truth is not in itself a defence against libel in English courts.

And that's why the rest of the world hates English libel laws....

Actualy this is even more beneficial for tournies thinking about it. Often I would spend all that time on a tray and it would get knocked around by others yes while I play. this way I customize it and use it as a frame for my armies and when i'm in game just break it apart and pack it away until I need it. BRILLIANT!!!

This product looks great Romeo... I'll definitely be picking up at least one of these... looking forward to seeing the upcoming inserts as well...

Looks like a great special purpose board.

If I did tourneys, I might get one.

One thing of concern to me is that models might skid on the surface.

That was my big dislike with the RoBB. Unless you texture the surface, models slide right off the thing.

That would be horrible for a carry/display tray. A slight jostle and your army is on the floor.

Though I can really see using it as a base for some putty work to hide magnets where needed.

I wonder if it is too big for using with Warmachine, 35pts. I will have to check that out.

Romeo, how hard is the plastic? I'm wondering if it would be possible to countersink some rare earth magnets, with corresponding magnets in the bases, so models will stay put, even while carrying the tray from table to table?

Holy Run-On Sentence, Batman!

DeathGod - without getting into to much tech detail I can tell you that the boards are rock hard. We have the cross plastic on the back of all the parts to give the board durability over time. Think GW Battle Board backing but on steroids.

We also use a harder plastic then the GW board so it can last longer. We will be doing a demo of us running it over with a car when the item goes live next month. Look for that very soon. We actually already filmed it and the board survived with zero issues. Oh, keep in mind that the rails did get pulled off for the video.

Hope that helps.

Romeo
Battle Foam
Protecting Your Army

I'm not a tournament gamer, but I'm now frothing at the mouth in the hope you someday extend this to full size battlefields that I can use at FoW and 40k scales. Drool...

Wow, running it over with a car! That's an extreme way to test it, but very cool

You can be damn sure I'll be buying one of these. Mucho props Romeo. Tell the guys that worked on this Bravo!

CAR?! Hot dang.

Breotan wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:Breotan, you're still missing the point.

Actually, I think you're missing my point. If this exact display table were made by GW at this exact same price instead of by BF, the responses would be completely opposite of what they are in this thread...

...I'm not saying BF shouldn't make and sell what they want or that people shouldn't buy from them. I'm saying that a lot of people on this Dakka are hypocrites and I'm calling them on it.

Unless you can find a particular person or person who's posted in this thread, and who you can quote as complaining about the Realm of Battle board previously, then your whole line of complaint is an irrelevant distraction in this thread. If you feel the compulsion to complain generally about what you perceive to be hypocrisy on the part of Dakka posters in their reactions to GW products vs. those of independent companies, maybe that's worth a thread in Dakka Discussions. You could even link back to this thread for reference. But from what I can tell, I don't think any of the people being positive in this thread WERE in fact negative in any of the RoB threads, at least over the price/value point, so your complaint is entirely off-topic.

I'll admit that I have had issues with the price of the GW Realms of Battleboard, and I also love this product from BF. I would be happy for this to cost around $35 and I think allot of what BF produces is out of my price range. That may very well be the only way BF can produce and sell their products at a profit, it might not be, for all I know they could be paying pennies for this tray and selling it at an insane profit. I am a retail manager and have worked in the retail sector for over 10 years. I know that mark-ups can be ridiculous, probably in ways some of you cannot even imagine. Regardless the issue is not relevant to this situation. We are talking about a $65 product versus a $290 product. That is a big difference in affordability. And there are more issues about the price tag on the GW RoB board than its final price, such as the advertised price versus the final cost and GW's overall pricing strategy in general.

Yeah, I will not be getting the Realm of Battle Board, nor this product, because I have no need for either. But I have to say, something that is overpriced at 65$ is not apples to apples compared to an overpriced $290 product. Especially when these respective products fill two different niches.

Rated G wrote:Yeah, I will not be getting the Realm of Battle Board, nor this product, because I have no need for either. But I have to say, something that is overpriced at 65$ is not apples to apples compared to an overpriced $290 product. Especially when these respective products fill two different niches.

This is straying so far from the topic seriously. Battlefoam just posted a kick butt product. Now so many complain but you know what the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I build my own boards but intend to pick one o fthese up as I can use it as a great foundation and not worry about it getting destroyed in transit. The GW realm boards have nothing to do with this product so why not just stop bringing it up. If you won't buy one of these fine then don't post because the rest of us like them.

Empchild wrote:

Rated G wrote:Yeah, I will not be getting the Realm of Battle Board, nor this product, because I have no need for either. But I have to say, something that is overpriced at 65$ is not apples to apples compared to an overpriced $290 product. Especially when these respective products fill two different niches.

This is straying so far from the topic seriously. Battlefoam just posted a kick butt product. Now so many complain but you know what the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I build my own boards but intend to pick one o fthese up as I can use it as a great foundation and not worry about it getting destroyed in transit. The GW realm boards have nothing to do with this product so why not just stop bringing it up. If you won't buy one of these fine then don't post because the rest of us like them.

Oh, boohoo. Get over it and reread my post. I was defending Diablo and the xboard. It's called being subjective. I don't want the thing, but I think it is silly comparing it to the battle board. Nothing more, nothing less.

Empchild wrote:

Rated G wrote:Yeah, I will not be getting the Realm of Battle Board, nor this product, because I have no need for either. But I have to say, something that is overpriced at 65$ is not apples to apples compared to an overpriced $290 product. Especially when these respective products fill two different niches.

This is straying so far from the topic seriously. Battlefoam just posted a kick butt product. Now so many complain but you know what the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I build my own boards but intend to pick one o fthese up as I can use it as a great foundation and not worry about it getting destroyed in transit. The GW realm boards have nothing to do with this product so why not just stop bringing it up. If you won't buy one of these fine then don't post because the rest of us like them.

I really don't think rated G was saying anything out of line. IMO, the previous mod comment by Mannahnin took this thread back off topic with a message that could easily be conveyed one on one with a PM. Rated G simply indicated that neither the RoB board or this tray are products he is interested in but that a $65 dollar product doesn't compare to a $290 product that is entirely unrelated and any discussion to that effect really doesn't belong here. I would urge the moderators to police this topic appropriately but don't contribute to the problem by derailing a thread that returned to an on topic discussion.

Let's everyone just stick to the main topic...


http://jopereira.deviantart.com/art/Greater-Good-137951154

Great idea I love that it breaks down. Really that is an awesome product. will you be making custom tags for the front or is that something you would need to get else where? only thing I dislike is the price would have liked to see it more around 50 ish but still not bad at all glad to see something new on the market for tourny players.

Angeloftheblood - Yes, we will offer custom front plates so people can name their armies. We will also do custom logos in the middle of the boards at an additional cost. All of these along with the different panels will be released over the next several months. Custom work will be available as soon as the boards launch.

Pricing and pre-order information will all be available soon.

Romeo
Battle Foam
Protecting Your Army

Are you going to do different boards or just the hill would mind a flat board that looked like cobble stone with the BA symbol engraved in the middle.

Awesome!

I need to get a display board for my armies and I was just thinking about how I was going to make one, this is sweet.

It's a cool idea to be sure, doesn't interest me.....but I'm sure it will be ideal for others. Only thing you might consider changing is that price tag, seems pretty steep for that size of a display.

Sgt Diablo wrote:Hello,

NecronLord3 - We are planning on having these at Adepticon for viewing. We will also bring a small batch to the show for sales. Being that we are bringing so many bags we are limited on travel space. Pre-Orders for these will be up on our site on the 15th of March.

Thanks

Romeo
Battle Foam
Protecting Your Army

Is this up yet for pre-order. I can't find it on the site?

Not that I've seen. I went on yesterday looking and couldn't find it either. I want one to keep from having to do the major work myself....

Ughh... I really hope these are available at Adepticon, or my great plan will be ruined.

Hello guys,

Here is the update on the board and the P.A.C.K. 720. Both items are going up on the site later today and will be available for pre order.

I do have some bad news for people planning on buying the boards at Adepticon. Due to the amount of items we needed to ship we did not have room for the X-Boards to make the trip. This along with retailers wanting first dibs on sales we are releasing the X-Board as a street date of May 3rd.

Pre-Orders will be up on our site tonight. Both the 720 and the X-Board will be available with multiple load outs for the 720.

Hope that helps.

Romeo
Battle Foam
Protecting Your Army

Damn you, Romeo, damn you to hell.

Or at least to Ohio. Which is eerily similar.

Sgt Diablo wrote:Hello guys,

Here is the update on the board and the P.A.C.K. 720. Both items are going up on the site later today and will be available for pre order.

I do have some bad news for people planning on buying the boards at Adepticon. Due to the amount of items we needed to ship we did not have room for the X-Boards to make the trip. This along with retailers wanting first dibs on sales we are releasing the X-Board as a street date of May 3rd.

Pre-Orders will be up on our site tonight. Both the 720 and the X-Board will be available with multiple load outs for the 720.

Hope that helps.

Romeo
Battle Foam
Protecting Your Army

Well you've just lost a sale. I only really have a need for this product at tournaments and the only major tournament I have plans on attending are Adepticon. Maybe next year I'll think about buying one.

Really disappointed.

NecronLord3- would it have done you any good for Adepticon, if you had to buy it AT Adepticon? Would you have flocked/painted it up that same day?

I guess the answer's yes...

LOL @ Valhallan42nd...

Well, Adepticon lasts for a few days, doesn't it?

Is there a list of vendors that are going to have it before your street date? Since your focusing on them? I'm just curious as I was fully intending to pick one up for a GT in April. Thanks

RiTides wrote:NecronLord3- would it have done you any good for Adepticon, if you had to buy it AT Adepticon? Would you have flocked/painted it up that same day?

I guess the answer's yes...

LOL @ Valhallan42nd...

Buy on Friday have finished by Sunday morning. No problem.

Any way I can drive over an pick one up before Adepticon?

-Allan

Blackmoor wrote:Any way I can drive over an pick one up before Adepticon?

-Allan

Hey, if that works, pick me one up too if you can fit it into your luggage!

Valhallan42nd wrote:Damn you, Romeo, damn you to hell.

Or at least to Ohio. Which is eerily similar.

Hey now.. no hatin' on the Buckeye State..

yakface wrote:

Blackmoor wrote:Any way I can drive over an pick one up before Adepticon?

-Allan

Hey, if that works, pick me one up too if you can fit it into your luggage!

And me. And get one for Bill, too, and we'll have matching display boards!

I just think it is kinda ridiculous that if we are willing to preorder(a guaranteed sale) that a few can't be brought along. It's also ironic that a selling point is the X-boards ease of travel, but they are unable to find the room to bring them to adepticon.

Guys, lets not make this into something bigger then it is. We have commitments to our retailers and wholesale accounts that require all products go into a pre-order status before they have a street date. This give each of your FLGS a chance to order theirs and have them in stock when ours on the site are shipping.

Its the only way we can protect the FLGS owner and help them with sales.

Again, we will have a couple samples (not for sale) at Adepticon that people can see and try out.

Thanks

Romeo
Battle Foam
Protecting Your Army

It's funny that nearly all other companies sell advanced product in limited quantities at conventions like Adepticon all the time, and it doesn't interfere with retail sales and/or commitments.

Please try to avoid making commitments or even vague suggestions in the future, when the obvious situation is that you have other commitments to your retailers.

You know what else is funny that all the time you have wasted complaining about that you cant get the display board you could have been making your own one. We get it man you are mad you cant get one at adepticon. Can you please stop beating the dead horse? I will now add my two cents.....cool idea.....not sure if I will get one as I stink at 40K and dont play in many if any tournaments

I understand Necronlord's issue though. Romeo did say that there would only be some for sale at adepticon if he could fit them into the luggage which they can't so he did cover himself ahead of time on the Adepticon selling issue. I personally am more annoyed that he originally announced they'd be available for purchase much sooner than the actual reality. It happens but I'd almost prefer no hint of actual time it may come out until it can't change than to be disappointed when it doesn't come out on time.

In all fairness though....who cares? Necronlords whining doesn't really help the situation, and Romeo already explained that he is unable to have any at Adepticon. It happens. I mean, at least he told you now rather than wait till you got there?

Seriously, the stuff that we gamers get our underwear in a twist over is amazing.

Cato Sicarius wrote:You know what else is funny that all the time you have wasted complaining about that you cant get the display board you could have been making your own one. We get it man you are mad you cant get one at adepticon. Can you please stop beating the dead horse? I will now add my two cents.....cool idea.....not sure if I will get one as I stink at 40K and dont play in many if any tournaments

Actually you hit the nail on the head because I'm pissed that between the time this board was announced(with the commitment that they would be for sale at Adepticon) I could have made my board. When this product was announced I stopped the plans I had to make the board myself. A) I didn't want to make the board and B) Purchasing the board from Battle Foam would be cheaper and a hell of allot easier, not to mention that it is just sweet as hell and portable. Its a very nice board. Now, the word comes out that is won't be available and my vacation that just ended is over and I won't have a day off again until the first day of Adepticon. Yeah, I'm pissed!

It's also nice to see Sgt. Diablo calling up his friends to defend his companies bad decisions. Very professional.

NecronLord3 wrote:Actually you hit the nail on the head because I'm pissed that between the time this board was announced(with the commitment that they would be for sale at Adepticon) I could have made my board.

Pro tip: you still can.

Breotan wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:Actually you hit the nail on the head because I'm pissed that between the time this board was announced(with the commitment that they would be for sale at Adepticon) I could have made my board.

Pro tip: you still can.

Sorry I have a Job that interferes with my hobby. It requires that I spend approx. 10 hours away from home(5 days per week) and if I'm lucky I sleep 5 or 6 hours a day. I guess, I could stop taking care of my kids(and extremely ill wife) and concentrate on rushing to make a Board.

NecronLord3 wrote:

Breotan wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:Actually you hit the nail on the head because I'm pissed that between the time this board was announced(with the commitment that they would be for sale at Adepticon) I could have made my board.

Pro tip: you still can.

Sorry I have a Job that interferes with my hobby. It requires that spend approx. 10 hours away from home and if I'm lucky I sleep 5 or 6 hours a day. I guess, I could stop taking care of my kids(and extremely ill wife) and concentrate on rushing to make a Board.

Sound like you have bigger problems than a board.

Maybe you need to think about your priorities.

NecronLord3 wrote:(with the commitment that they would be for sale at Adepticon)

No such commitment. Commitment to showing a couple, which has been kept. Promise to have a few IF available, and space allowed. As has been explained, space not available, so original promise stands.

UltraPrime wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:(with the commitment that they would be for sale at Adepticon)

No such commitment. Commitment to showing a couple, which has been kept. Promise to have a few IF available, and space allowed. As has been explained, space not available, so original promise stands.

BULL!

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We will also bring a small batch to the show for sales.

You're upset, we know. Get over it already.

Awesome.

NecronLord3 wrote:BULL!

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We will also bring a small batch to the show for sales.

I give up. I suggest everyone else does, I don't think there is a reasonable way out of this one.

NecronLord3 wrote:Well you've just lost a sale.

At the risk of sounding like a jerk, this comment really irks me. Enough for me to say that I think Romeo just gained a sale from me, due to his being upfront and honest about the situation. He won't have them before Adepticon, and he let us know ahead of time. So Romeo, you just made a customer out of me.

And to top it all off, maybe I'll find a way to buy two, and make up for the one that Romeo is losing because Necronlord isn't buying one.

What a great product idea. You identified a gap in the hobby community and moved to fill it with your product. Looking foward to seeing how your company grows and what you have to offer in the future.

This ultimately means that Battlefoam is doing REALLY well on a lot of products - which is a good thing.

Keep it up.

cheers to romeo on all this because how many companys out there "Want" to make sure the FLGS's get the first run. He is not trying to take sales away from them but help a lot of stores. My good sir I look at this like I look at a bottle of fine wine. If you are patient, and wait for the right moment then it makes it all the better when you get it, but if you rush the bottle(in this case product) before it has properly aged then you have ruined your investment. Take your time and I look forward to when these release.

May huh? Looks like I can get one in time for Kublacon so I can stop using my wife's breakfast-in-bed tray.

Will we be able to see and/or preorder these at the Slaughter in Space 2?

Hi Bootlegbaker, Yes we will be at Slaughter and will have the new P.A.C.K 720 and the X-BOARDS on display for everyone to see. We will be taking pre - orders and will be offering special sales and discounts during the weekend. Look for great savings and new products like the Malifaux bag due to release early this summer.

Battle Foam
Protecting Your Army

Saw the board at adepticon, and impressed would be an understatement.

Sgt Diablo wrote:Hi Bootlegbaker, Yes we will be at Slaughter and will have the new P.A.C.K 720 and the X-BOARDS on display for everyone to see. We will be taking pre - orders and will be offering special sales and discounts during the weekend. Look for great savings and new products like the Malifaux bag due to release early this summer.

Battle Foam
Protecting Your Army

Will these sales include orders via your website?