Sorry for the bad pic quality, I´m not good at taking pics.
These are going into the mail today.

I put them up on SM torsos for stability and angles when taking pics and for scale. They are slightly more lowered in reality since I used a blob of greenstuff to hold them in place in the torso so it raised the helmets a little bit.

I used some WW2 german helmet and old preussan helmet concept ideas and after sculpting up a bunch of those I added various things like rebreather filters with different patterns on them etc etc.

I also made something that can be used as an old styled chaplain helmet.

Hope you like some of those.





A


B


C


D


E


F


G


H


I

If you could make some of the Skull Helmets WITHOUT the 'cap' aspect, I'd buy a lot!

Please?

I think they all look really great.

Although the last one does kinda have a goofy "cap-placed-too-high-on-the-head-look".

Frankly, they look more like something you'd see on Traitor Guardsmen than Astartes.

Liking C, E, and F. I could see outfitting a Deathguard army with those bad boys.

second the 'cap' comment...
they all look sweet though, especially E...
i feel like some could look better without the spikes on top, and A kinda looks to snarling-ie...

Amen on the no cap comment. I like a few, but just from me - I've never been a chaos player.

If you could make some of the Skull Helmets WITHOUT the 'cap' aspect, I'd buy a lot!

Please?

Dont quite get you. Elaborate.

i feel like some could look better without the spikes on top, and A kinda looks to snarling-ie...

That is really no problem. If the spikes are not needed it is a simple matter to remove them with a knife.
Better they be there for those that like them as it is harder to add spikes then to remove them.


Also, tell me more about the "cap" thing. There is still time to hold them back one more day in order to do changes.
I guess you would like to see a plain, round helmet on the skull instead of a german typed one?
Maybe with some kind of traditional air intake on top?

Well, its up to you guys, no feedback means no changes.

I would get 50 of A and G - A for some pre heresy marines, G I would use for storm troopers.

i think what they mean by cap is in picture "I", the front shot on the left looks like a cool skull helmet that someone laid a beenie on his head as a practical joke. it seems to sit way too high on his head.

it looks out of place.

Pyriel- wrote:

If you could make some of the Skull Helmets WITHOUT the 'cap' aspect, I'd buy a lot!

Please?

Dont quite get you. Elaborate.

He means the part that looks like a German Stahlhelm. If you blended the helmet a few mm back and made it all one flat feature it would give it more of an Astartes look than "Guardsman wearing a Gas Mask" look.

These would make a great ww2/ww1 aesthetic. Good accompaniment for a krieg or steel legion force.

Nice heads looks sweet!


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These fit in well with a great crusade, personally I would get rid of the spikes myself. On the side I agree with alpharius as I don't like the helment on the skull.

I really like them overall.

The first one would make an awesome base to go off of for some generic pre-heresy heads. I'd personally like to see some Thousand Sons ones

I'd also like to echo that these would make AWESOME traitor guard heads. It might be easy, the neck just sits differently for IG. It's a bit tough converting SM heads to fit IG bodies.

What I think the others meant on the last head was removing the head altogether. But, I think you could also go a different route. I believe the issue people are seeing is that the rim in the front is pretty high. If you can, either lower the brim to right at brow level, or remove the helm altogether.

Kind of like this:

I think that all the heads look a little too much like a facemask and helmet deal instead of the astares 'one piece' helmet look. The bill in front looks fine, but I think reducing the bill around the sides and back and blending with the back of the head would look more astares-ish.

Ah ok, I might remake it fast for tomorrow.

Nice heads looks sweet!


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I think that all the heads look a little too much like a facemask and helmet deal instead of the astares 'one piece' helmet look. The bill in front looks fine, but I think reducing the bill around the sides and back and blending with the back of the head would look more astares-ish.

You obviously have not looked into the HH artbooks

Usually a fan of your work but I’m not so sure of these. I think they would look better without the German style helmet bit on the top. Maybe more like the helmets in the visions of heresy art books.

However these will really look good as traitor guard heads as mentioned earlier.

Looking good man! keep up the good work!

The helmets are fantastic. Seriously cool.

Although I will echo the comment on the skull helm. The helmet on top is sitting too high. That, combined with the apparent lack of a lower jaw (which gives a bit of a grinning aspect) makes it look a little goofy. I think it would look much better without the added helmet.


The others, though... great work.

I'm going to have to agree with the "half ww2 half spacemarine" looks weird. They aren't quite right for traitor guardsmen, and aren't quite right for SM. I would tone down the "stahlhelm" aspect.

Pyriel- wrote:You obviously have not looked into the HH artbooks

You're right, I haven't. But, I'd rather look cool and not match the artbooks than match and not look as good.

Hmm, they were meant for traitor usage so I guess I hit right somewhere.
The germen helmets are actually found in HH artbooks as well.

Anyway, other helmet types are in making so there will be plenty for all kinds of tastes, remember, these are just the first and all "series" will have a theme, this was the german WW2 theme.

As for the skull helmet, there cant be a lower jaw since in that case the helmet wont fit on a torso. In the place of a jaw there are cables and such.
But you guys have convinced me, I mean when everyone says A and I say B I am hardly in a position to argue that I am right now am I
The skull helmet will be removed then and remade to a smooth skull-alike helmet.
It will be finished by tomorrow.


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You're right, I haven't. But, I'd rather look cool and not match the artbooks than match and not look as good.

True.
Well, maybe you´ll find the later helmets more to your taste.

Yeah most of the face plates look good.its just the ww2 helmet part.

but as you say will suit traitor marines.

It's always nice when feedback is actually taken into account. Thanks.

insaniak wrote:

Although I will echo the comment on the skull helm. The helmet on top is sitting too high. That, combined with the apparent lack of a lower jaw (which gives a bit of a grinning aspect) makes it look a little goofy. I think it would look much better without the added helmet.

Agreed!

I was hoping for a Skull Helmet a lot closer to this:



The 'helmet on top of a skull' isn't something I'd want.

JUST the Skull helmet, scaled for a marine body? (Even with no lower jaw!)

Yes please!

I was hoping for a Skull Helmet a lot closer to this:

Then that is what you will get!

A = AWESOME.
B = Not 100% sold on the WW2 style helmets on SM.
C = Same.
D = Same, but I like the front.
E = Not bad on this one,
F = nice.
G = Not my tastes.
H = Nice.
I = Lose the cap!...



(BTW - how about Roman /Greek / Spartan (Whatever!) Style helmets ;P)

Hey Pyriel- perhaps you could keep the cap on that skull, and just model up another skull instead? I for one like the cap/skull combo, as there are already quite a few skull-helmet options out there from GW (all the chaplain minis, the WHFB Chaos Warrior one, berzerkers, etc. etc.).


And really, really nice work here, man. Can't wait to see these on some traitors!

I second the Greek style helmet I love that mini.

Savnock wrote:Hey Pyriel- perhaps you could keep the cap on that skull, and just model up another skull instead?

I could live with that - happily!

Savnock wrote:I for one like the cap/skull combo, as there are already quite a few skull-helmet options out there from GW (all the chaplain minis, the WHFB Chaos Warrior one, berzerkers, etc. etc.).

Actually, there aren't a lot out there that don't involve a lot of cutting metal and/or having to perform additional sculpting work, so a 'straight up regular skull helmet' (no cap) would be greatly appreciated by many!

I second the Greek style helmet I love that mini.

Yepo!
That mini is very hard to find - and is highly valued on eBay. I'd say there is a strong market for it.
It would just be pretty bad Arse - to have a company of Greek Style SMs ;P.

Combine that with your guy's dope shields/shoulder pads.

The heads you have created are decent no doubt- but maybe if you can translate that to IG? You'll get the next best thing to great coats (you make em eventually? then you'll jack the DKOK market = $$$!).

Thinking about it those heads will look good on the wargames factory great coats.

Hey Pyriel- perhaps you could keep the cap on that skull, and just model up another skull instead? I for one like the cap/skull combo, as there are already quite a few skull-helmet options out there from GW (all the chaplain minis, the WHFB Chaos Warrior one, berzerkers, etc. etc.).


And really, really nice work here, man. Can't wait to see these on some traitors!

Oh, hmm. The time it would take to make a whole new skull head would upset Nick to much since the things are already to late for molding.
If however, the heads will be cast in resin there is no problem to cut of a halmet from one head and place it on another.

I´ll do a really nice looking skull helmet though.

As for roman styled heads, those are on the table but sadly are pushed back due to the eldar-ish stuff that is more important as I´m helping out with finalizing the jetbike bodies.

You guys and maxmini make me deliriously happy.

These are lovely I really like the aesthetic as their a great nod to the old 2nd Ed Plague Marines I'm rather tempted by an army of them unfortunately wallet says no......

Pyriel- wrote:

I´ll do a really nice looking skull helmet though.

Awesome!

I'll be waiting for that one...

Pyriel- wrote:
As for roman styled heads, those are on the table but sadly are pushed back due to the eldar-ish stuff that is more important as I´m helping out with finalizing the jetbike bodies.

Roman style heads and/or plume "add ons" would also sell very, very well I think...

or Adeptus Custodes heads.... hell the whole of the Custodes would be nice as would sisters of siliance

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:or Adeptus Custodes heads.... hell the whole of the Custodes would be nice as would sisters of siliance

They are the two coolest pre heresy units.

like hte pre heresy helmets, ive been using alot of old mark armour for my Fists, if you had some MK2 style helmets (the ones with a grill on the front), I'd eat them up, been using the maxmini ones, but they are slightly too narrow

Cool looking but strike me as traitor IG more than heresy era marines.

I hereby officially approve of these heads. Although I'm not a fan of the spiky ones, as you said, they are easily removed.

Put me in the Roman/Greek camp. I would buy obscence amounts of them.

What a fantastic improvement, your skills are developing really quick pyriel. The last 2 CH efforts have been crisp and symetrical, and the design is also becoming more and more flavorful!

These particular helmets wouldn't be for me personally as they wouldnt fit the mini's I gravitate to look wise, but I am very sure IG, DG and a whole bunch of other similar armies will love these.

Congrats!

I concur with the others though, CH has been mining neglected or little supported armies with their releases so far, I think your strongest sales may be through supporting armies that simply do not exist... Custodes, GS cults, Squats etc etc. Obviously prepping enough to make a whole new army is out of reach for now, but a lot of these things can be counts as, custodes/Grey Knights, Squats/Rattling Snipers, Engineseers, GS Cults/Traitor Ig, LATD etc etc.

I will agree on that very note - your skills as a sculptor has been incrementally increasing in awesome quality. Keep it up ;P The stuff is coming out nice.

I'd like to see a different take on SM Biker helmets the way Storm Trooper bikers have different helmets than the regular infantry guys in Star Wars. Any chance of that?

Also, some bits that could be used as Legion of the Damned would go a LONG way in getting me to place another order.

Oh! B, C, E & H are ace! Very interesting ...

- Salvage

I actually like the 'helmet head' look, to me it seems to suit the pre-Heresy look when maybe their primitive armour really did have a helmet on top of a full face mask, before slowly evolving to the modern one piece helmet?

Yeah, definitely put 'brush-top' helmets on your to-do list, and with a decent variety so people can make a full army with that look, I think they'd sell well.

Kanluwen wrote:Frankly, they look more like something you'd see on Traitor Guardsmen than Astartes.

exactly what i was thinking

Pretty darned nice!

I like style "H", I think I will have to order 7 or 14....

A seems ok as an old, pre-heresy loyalist helmet.
B seems a tad too small in scale.
C seems a tad generic and not 40k-ish enough - like a pig iron head.
D though H are the best ones, IMO - for traitor legions. G & E are especially good.
I - not fond of the helmet, but the faceplate is GWS or FW quality sculpting, IMO. Outstanding.

All of the helmets show a clear progression as far as sculpting skill goes compared with earlier works. Truly top notch work whether you like the aesthetic or not.

I third (or fourth or whatever number we have reached) the idea of greek/spartan heads. That would really rock.

Scottywan82 wrote:You guys and maxmini make me deliriously happy.

Second that emotion.

You know what else would be awesome? A truescaling kit. Pre-cast leg extensions (slice and place), torso and shoulder spacers, etc. Might be a bit farfetched but if you could make it work they would probably sell like gangbusters. Who the heck wouldn't want to TS their Marines if it took less than several hours per mini?

Love these. They're so iconic, I will definitely be getting some.

Thanks guys, apparently people notice some kind of sculpting improvement, I havent thought of that since you never see things yourself when you are immersed in something. Kind of like I painted and thought they look great but looking at them six months later I had to repaint every one of them since by then I thought they looked awful.

Second that emotion, and without regret as it's okay to be a fanboy of someone who listens to their consumers.

You know what elase would be awesome? A truescaling kit. Pre-cast leg extensions (slice and place), torso and shoulder spacers, etc. Might be a bit farfetched but if you could make it work they would probably sell like gangbusters. Who the heck wouldn't want to TS their Marines if it took less than several hours per mini?

Well, you know it might sound weird but Nick and I had this idea for some time now, we just havent agreed on weather to proceed with it or not but it is a very real possibility that I might do some sort of true scale thing later on if legals allow us to that is.

And thanks for the ideas streaming in, spartan themed helmets I havent thought about and roman themed are as I said on my table.
Today will see further work put into the "I" skull helmet, already did a basic smooth shape yesterday cutting of the german helmet. Today will see me experiment with various styles of skull helmet tops instead. I aim to be finished with it this day.

As for other helmets I am working on something that might appease thousand sons players and ultramarine players as well but all in due time.


Soon time for another update me thinks and a hint would be that it will fit nicely into any Blood Angel or Raven Guard army out there

Alpharius wrote:If you could make some of the Skull Helmets WITHOUT the 'cap' aspect, I'd buy a lot!

Please?

you planning on doing mortifactors? (chaos warriro skull helmest useful fro this and those zerker helemts)

also will these be in a pack, singularly or mix an match deal packs or all three?

loving the work guys keep it up

*looks for a job to try and fund chapter house purchases*

Spartan helmets> You do realise that I'd have to collect three entire companies of Space Marines if you did that, right?

Please don't hurt my wallet like that. ;(

you planning on doing mortifactors? (chaos warriro skull helmest useful fro this and those zerker helemts)

Not really but maybe the skull helmet will fit in there.

also will these be in a pack, singularly or mix an match deal packs or all three?

Not decided yet. If they are cast in resin they will be in packs, if they are cast in metal they will most probably come single but also rish a bit of detail degrading such as spikes being unevenly long etc.
Basically it is up to you guys what you would want.

*looks for a job to try and fund chapter house purchases*

Or you could always trade some bitz with me if you arent in a hurry (takes a while for me to get them myself)

Please don't hurt my wallet like that. ;(

*cough* Trade? *cough*

nice work, I did some brush top helmet casts for one of the GW staff, if anyone saw simons emperors fist on line, its not green stuff, its one of my casts!

I think these would be great alternative heads for guardsmen.

GG

Do we get to see the end result on the changes for the last helmet?

That's the only one I did not like, for the same reason as many other people.

Kanluwen wrote:Frankly, they look more like something you'd see on Traitor Guardsmen than Astartes.

I completely agree can we see some pictures on guard bodies? I think they would look pretty good on guard.

Do we get to see the end result on the changes for the last helmet?

That's the only one I did not like, for the same reason as many other people.

Hold your horses, it takes some time to resculpt and recut something as delicate as a miniature head.

Here are some progress pics for you to see if you are ok with the basic helmet/head shape. I will add detail and alter it as I sculpt further on, more pics will come.

Looking good! And if you are looking for trade, I happen to have a small GW store in my basement

I like it only recomendations is bring the back and sides out a little and I dare say I like it without a jaw. If you want nurglesk then one wiht a horn would work.

I like it only recomendations is bring the back and sides out a little and I dare say I like it without a jaw. If you want nurglesk then one wiht a horn would work.

Tried that, didnt look to good and besides things at the sides will be sculpted on to bulk it up.

No nurgle theme for this helmet though, you can use it as a death guard in that it is a skull (death, traitor etc) or a chaplain or loyalist elite squads, maybe a deathwatch or legion of the damned helmet.

I will be doing this more in the "Iron Man" theme.

Awesome work Pyriel! These are now my fav bits from Chapter House. Almost makes me wanna start up a Nurgle themed chaos list.

AWESOME!

THAT was what I was hoping for!

When can I order some???

These are great. I would totally get some for Storm Troopers etc.

I also agree with the Greek Helmet idea - if you made some of those (like a more stylised version of the faceplate for the average Chaos Warrior without the horns) then I would be there in a second.

Pyriel - I think that if most of the heads are meant for traitor guardsmen or chaos worshipers, you might want to update the title on the thread?

I also agree with the Greek Helmet idea - if you made some of those (like a more stylised version of the faceplate for the average Chaos Warrior without the horns) then I would be there in a second.

Pyriel - I think that if most of the heads are meant for traitor guardsmen or chaos worshipers, you might want to update the title on the thread?

Any pics of what you mean with the chaos helmet?

Well, I guess people are smart enough to see what various bitz could be used for without it saying so in the name, besides cant have to long thread titles

Pyriel- wrote:

I also agree with the Greek Helmet idea - if you made some of those (like a more stylised version of the faceplate for the average Chaos Warrior without the horns) then I would be there in a second.

Pyriel - I think that if most of the heads are meant for traitor guardsmen or chaos worshipers, you might want to update the title on the thread?

Any pics of what you mean with the chaos helmet?

Well, I guess people are smart enough to see what various bitz could be used for without it saying so in the name, besides cant have to long thread titles

From dakka images (props to the owners)





Basically, a greek helmet, with or without a crest or plume, with a bit more open face than seen here. Check out google for Greek Helmets or Spartan Helmets to see what I am talking about.

Just a suggestion for a cool looking head, but I am loving those others coming through too!

The biggest problem I have with the skull-helm is that it isn't centered. The eys should vertically be at the center of the head, and as it stands, the upper head looks overly inflated.

Lack of a jaw is one thing, but you have to compensate for that. Attaching a jawless skull onto a neck aligns the "face" lower on the head.

See the attachment on how the eyes aren't vertically centered and how a human head 'would' fit into the helmet and be off-center. Assuming the eyes are aligned, the lack of jaw 'shifts' the wearer's head out of the helmet and adds a lot of unnecessary space to the top of the head.

Also, pardon the crude MSPaint job.

Its a helmet or mask, its not going to be a perfect representation of a skull.

Saying that, there is some fixin' that will be done.

How much will this stuff cost? I will take all of them except the skulled ones!

Does CH give discount to Dakka members?
I want some discounts xD

Agree the upper skull could be shaved a touch, and maybe the temples indented in a touch? The face is spot on, the upper dome of the skull seems to be...um... skinned I guess would be the term? A shaved head.

That being said, jeebus you whipped it out fast, and the back detailing and the face itself are kick ass, so is the no jaw thing if you ask me.

I would love to jump forward a year and see what you guys are up to then, if things keep getting better and better like they are it's going to be mental!

man you whipped that up fast... I love it. Even without the lower jaw, it looks fine to me.

these will make for some good helmets to supplement my FW Plague Marines.

Absolutionis wrote:The biggest problem I have with the skull-helm is that it isn't centered.

What about the fact that it doesn't have a jaw???

Well, with a jaw it looks more "real", however I had to remove the jaw (it actually looks ok then, just as taking a jaw away would create a non centered eye line).

The main reason for the removal of the jaw though is it would mean it wont fit on a mini and then you would all complain about a head that cant be used at all

Also, it is no longer "shaved" I added detail that make it look and feel like an armoured helmet but still with a distinct skull shape. Pics coming in a wee while.

Pyriel- wrote:Well, with a jaw it looks more "real", however I had to remove the jaw (it actually looks ok then, just as taking a jaw away would create a non centered eye line).

The main reason for the removal of the jaw though is it would mean it wont fit on a mini and then you would all complain about a head that cant be used at all

Also, it is no longer "shaved" I added detail that make it look and feel like an armoured helmet but still with a distinct skull shape. Pics coming in a wee while.

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Awesome!

The quick changes and response to feedback are quite something!

Looking forward to updated pictures...

http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=53
For those that want Greek styled helmets then look here.

They are nice, but I think people* are after more of a 'power armored helmet' in that style, rather than an archaic Greek looking one.

*I know I am!

So finished resculpting the skull helmet, removed the "cap" added a skull, made it look armoured and added small vents on top to tie in more with the SM feel.
Hope it looks better then the previous one. I´m going to use it on legion of the damned minis myself and maybe as an imperial assassin.

Remade the "headphones" or audio augurs (whatever they are called).
Added those hallow spaces behind the eye bones as well thanks to being reminded to do skulls as they are supposed to look.

I want them right now. When can I order them?

They are nice, but I think people* are after more of a 'power armored helmet' in that style, rather than an archaic Greek looking one.

*I know I am!

Sculpting. Just hold your horses.

Very nice!

The changes 'finish' the look, and I suspect you'll now sell quite a few of them!

whoa... Lobot on a severe diet.

Damn.. I hate seeing coolness and having to wait until they become available for sale. I want NOW..

(mainly cause I can use em NOW and hate having models sitting unfinished for a month)

Chapterhouse wrote:Its a helmet or mask, its not going to be a perfect representation of a skull.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:The biggest problem I have with the skull-helm is that it isn't centered.

What about the fact that it doesn't have a jaw???

Lack of a jaw and artistic representation of a skull is fine.
My issue is that if you imagine a human(oid) head inside that helmet/mask, the helmet/mask's eye sockets are going to align with the wearer's nose.
You removed the jaw, but the wearer still has a jaw.
Even the GW Lemartes figure has some breathing unit where his jaw should be.

Nevertheless, the new sculpts really do look awesome. You have amazing skill as a sculptor and don't let my comments discourage you.

Pyriel- wrote:

They are nice, but I think people* are after more of a 'power armored helmet' in that style, rather than an archaic Greek looking one.

*I know I am!

Sculpting. Just hold your horses.

Horses holding.

Love it want them(though personally I would file off the vents) but hot stuff.

Like the improvements to the skull helmet, especially the over lapping armour.

really looking forwad to thess and i will defo pick some up.

just interested in future head designs is there any cahnce of a wolf skull style one?

Lack of a jaw and artistic representation of a skull is fine.
My issue is that if you imagine a human(oid) head inside that helmet/mask, the helmet/mask's eye sockets are going to align with the wearer's nose.
You removed the jaw, but the wearer still has a jaw.
Even the GW Lemartes figure has some breathing unit where his jaw should be.

Nevertheless, the new sculpts really do look awesome. You have amazing skill as a sculptor and don't let my comments discourage you.

Its ok man, I appreciate your help on this matter.

But small anatomical errors are and will frequent, the only thing I can do about it is to put in a lot more time into the sculpts in order to correct a millimeter of anatomical error here and there and the end result will be much less things done.

As for the skull helmet, well looking at a GW space marine EVERYTHING anatomical-wise is laughable. Imagine the thin thighs and arms, how on earth is a super beefy space marine with over developed muscles ever going to squeeze in his arms and legs into those thin tubes?
Are the GW marines anorectic?

And the poor terminators with head and shoulders made to fit a gorilla?

I did the skull with a jaw but it simply did not fit into/onto a marine torso so I removed it and added some cabling there, it still looks like a death mask (I hope) on a helmet and the teeth will mostly be hidden inside the SM torso neck ring so it is made more with a practical eye rather then anathomically correct.

But As I learn maybe those things will come more naturally over time, it is people like you who point out these things that help me learn to do better and no matter how crappy or good I may be today, I would like to think that I can only get better tomorrow.

I think I love A..... My iron warriors will be very, very pleased =D Also, G looks good, might have to trim the spikes off though.....

just interested in future head designs is there any cahnce of a wolf skull style one?

Hmm, GW already sell those so I dont know really.
Maybe if enough people nag about them I can cook something up

The extra detail finishes off the skull helmet nicely.

You could make EVERYTHING anatomical correct if you make that true scaling kit.

Pyriel- wrote:

just interested in future head designs is there any cahnce of a wolf skull style one?

Hmm, GW already sell those so I dont know really.
Maybe if enough people nag about them I can cook something up

I was going to ask the same thing, I think he means something like Ulrik the Slayer's wolf skull helm, not so much the one that comes in the grey hunter box.

Don't know what demand would be like for them, since you really only need them for Wolf Priests, but I know I'd probably by at least 3.


Love the final result on the skull, btw. I intend to purchase these helmets when they come out.

Wolf skull helm, not a bad idea.

You should do whole minis of death guard and sell them. You would make a lot of money

Wow they look great I just mite buy some

You should do whole minis of death guard and sell them. You would make a lot of money

Hehe, I´d go back 3k in legal fees and even then I would probably learn that no matter how I do it it will violate IP and be illegal.

Looking awesome! The dome of the skull is still a bit tall if you ask me, but it doesnt stick out to me quite as much now that the design is clearly a mechanical helmet.

I totally agree with Pyriel's decision to lose the jaw, it will really allow some flexibility in positioning the head into the neck and shoulders of the model that aren't normally available. I have shaved many a chin in my day trying to fit a helmet into the collar in a more characterful pose.

Beamo wrote:

Pyriel- wrote:

just interested in future head designs is there any cahnce of a wolf skull style one?

Hmm, GW already sell those so I dont know really.
Maybe if enough people nag about them I can cook something up

I was going to ask the same thing, I think he means something like Ulrik the Slayer's wolf skull helm, not so much the one that comes in the grey hunter box.

Don't know what demand would be like for them, since you really only need them for Wolf Priests, but I know I'd probably by at least 3.


Love the final result on the skull, btw. I intend to purchase these helmets when they come out.

yes what this guy said

Sgt.Roadkill wrote:

Beamo wrote:

Pyriel- wrote:

just interested in future head designs is there any cahnce of a wolf skull style one?

Hmm, GW already sell those so I dont know really.
Maybe if enough people nag about them I can cook something up

I was going to ask the same thing, I think he means something like Ulrik the Slayer's wolf skull helm, not so much the one that comes in the grey hunter box.

Don't know what demand would be like for them, since you really only need them for Wolf Priests, but I know I'd probably by at least 3.


Love the final result on the skull, btw. I intend to purchase these helmets when they come out.

yes what this guy said

yes please and a terminator one

I've never liked Space Marines, but I like these helmets. They convey a sense of exactly what I think Space Marines should convey, but the official GW models rarely do. That is, they walk the fine line of looking sinister and imposing, without crossing into cartoon supervillain land or frat-boy-esque macho chest thumping.

Though I would probably file off the spike mohawks on G and E, because they fall off the fine line for me. But that looks easily done, and I can see how some people would like them.

...

So, it's been a couple of weeks. where are we in the grand scheme of being able to get these?

They were shipped to me monday, so still waiting for the Post office to get them to me.

Those are awesome except for the last one with the turtle shell on his head.

Reecius wrote:Those are awesome except for the last one with the turtle shell on his head.

They ended up changing that one. you can see the new, awesome head further in the thread.


Good to know, Chapterhouse. I'm looking forward to these.

Part the 1st:
Love all these marine helmets. Beautiful work!

part the 2nd:
Skull helmet is just astounding, especially turnaround time.

I have to put my marine project on hold now for that jetpack and these helmets you're doing. My wife has demanded I use these instead of the GW stock product.

These are quite goodl!

Specific commentary:
A - the "halo" doesn't match the vertical line of the facemask. Lose the halo and the helmet should have a longitudinal crease running from nose to nape.

B - this is very good, tho the mouth slit should be narrower and not go so high - remember, there's supposed to be a nose under there...

C - this is wierd having rebreather and mouth. Lose the mouth and make the rebreather cartridges round, not squished ovals.

D - the uneven spacing of the slits detracts from the design. Also, what are they slits for? Maybe just do a knight's thing, with slits that don't reach the bottom.

E - vagina face! Actually, the spikes are really good decoration. And again, can't you punch some plasticard to make your rebreathers round?

F - why doesn't the cross banding match the facemask - it's like two different concepts?

G - this has a mohawk biker vibe.

H - this looks like you carry the flat bit down to the facemask. Good! Also, the rebreathers look round. Bravo!

I - agree with the others that this concept would work far better as a hockey-style skull mask full frontal, rathr than the current design.

In many ways, it seems like you want to do helmets and facemasks separately, rather than as a unified concept. If you made them available mix & match, maybe that would be best?

I have to put my marine project on hold now for that jetpack and these helmets you're doing. My wife has demanded I use these instead of the GW stock product.

Gotta be the single best comment I have yet seen on dakka!
I know all about it as my gf keeps "demanding" I sculpt this and that, all for her own armies use of course and the best thing is she thinks shes very subtle about it and not do stuff solemnly for her own armies use

A - the "halo" doesn't match the vertical line of the facemask. Lose the halo and the helmet should have a longitudinal crease running from nose to nape.

Eh what?
The halo is 90 degrees to the imaginary line that goes from the nose to the back of the helmet.

B - this is very good, tho the mouth slit should be narrower and not go so high - remember, there's supposed to be a nose under there...

Hmm, I have no problem imagining a nose fitting inside the mask. None what so ever.

C - this is wierd having rebreather and mouth. Lose the mouth and make the rebreather cartridges round, not squished ovals.

Why, extra heavy duty rebreathers might come in handy on atmospheres that are to hard for the helmet grille to breathe through.
I actually used official Raptor fluff on that one so its 100% background correct.

(think it was raptors, a chapter that specializes in jungle warfare and had severe difficulties once due to the rebreathers failing in a too hostile atmosphere so the tecchies had to come up with additional stuff). I´m a fluff nut so most things I do have some kind of fluff anchor.

All rebreather cartridges are slightly "oval-led" at one side to add a look of symmetry to the helmet. Its deliberate.
The second reason was that round cartridges were a hindrance in what ways you can position the helmet on a torso since round ones extend further down and collide with the neck collar so nope, remaking them to round shapes aint gonna happen since it will spoil practical aspect of it.

D - the uneven spacing of the slits detracts from the design. Also, what are they slits for? Maybe just do a knight's thing, with slits that don't reach the bottom.

The inspiration for them come from the death guard IA.
Look and though shall find!

As said, I do very few things without fluff anchoring them somewhere.

E - vagina face! Actually, the spikes are really good decoration. And again, can't you punch some plasticard to make your rebreathers round?

Inspiration for the "face slit" can be found in HH art. Look and you will see for yourself.

And for the explanation for the not so round shape of the cartridges read above.

F - why doesn't the cross banding match the facemask - it's like two different concepts?

Que?
I see nothing not pleasing to the eye.
All angles are 90 and symmetrical to the helmet shape from above.
What cross bands do not match what face mask?

Do you mean to say the standard SM helmet also have a face mask that doesnt match with the top air intake?

G - this has a mohawk biker vibe.

Cool

H - this looks like you carry the flat bit down to the facemask. Good! Also, the rebreathers look round. Bravo!

Well, they arent
Bummer

I - agree with the others that this concept would work far better as a hockey-style skull mask full frontal, rathr than the current design.

I suggest you take a look at the resculpted version of the skull helmet and then complain about it anew as the first page skull helmet will not be the final one

In many ways, it seems like you want to do helmets and facemasks separately, rather than as a unified concept. If you made them available mix & match, maybe that would be best?

Dont blame me man, blame the HH artbooks, its the helmet-separate-from-facemask concepts there that inspired me. Sorry bad you dont like them but this is one aspect of the ancient pre heresy look.

I love the revision for the skull helmet. I never liked the GW Chaplains, because they were too much skull and not enough helmet. This though, is perfect.

Pyriel- wrote:

A - the "halo" doesn't match the vertical line of the facemask. Lose the halo and the helmet should have a longitudinal crease running from nose to nape.

Eh what?
The halo is 90 degrees to the imaginary line that goes from the nose to the back of the helmet.

And it should be replaced by a crease in-line.


[quoet]Dont blame me man, blame the HH artbooks, its the helmet-separate-from-facemask concepts there that inspired me. Sorry bad you dont like them but this is one aspect of the ancient pre heresy look.

I'm not blaming you. I'm critiquing you. There's a difference.

Basically you are criticizing the HH artbooks

Also, there's no need to be slavish to the HH artbooks.

If you didn't want criticism, sorry.

I´m not slavish at all, had I been they would be illegal to sell.

And sure I want criticism but that means criticism of the sculpt skills and new ideas, not criticism of the very pre heresy style I´m emulating since that is NOT of my doing.
You want to change and criticize the helmet + mask concepts for example then by all means go and criticize the artists that made and invented the concepts per se, not me that is trying to give the gaming community something they can touch that is inspired on said concept.

That, my friend is not criticism pointed in the right direction.

Besides I gave you all a time frame on suggesting changes to be made to the helmets, for example the skull one was altered by "your" request.
It is pretty pointless actually to start dishing out criticism and heavy suggestions one week AFTER the helmets are sent to casting wouldnt you say?

So next time I sure can and will listen to you but as long as the critique is pointed towards areas of my own doing and as long as I still have the things home so I can alter whatever you guys want to be altered.

They look awsome, I just want some more SW goodies

It's funny, but books, movies,and everybody else has to deal with post-production reviews.

But as I said, I won't make that mistake with you again. Sorry.

John,

You are ok, dont worry about it. I appologize for his replies.

Nick

Chapterhouse wrote:John,

You are ok, dont worry about it. I appologize for his replies.

Nick

You should apologize, JohnWangDD's opinion is the most important on Dakka. Just ask him!

And remember, he's never being rude or overly critical - it's 'telling it like it is!'

Keep on rocking Wang, you crazy crazy diamond...

In other news, I have no criticisms of the heads and nothing but praise. They look great.

Now... about some grecian Hoplite-ish styled helms. Suitable for, say, a bunch of purple armour wearing 'offspring of the imperial ruler' kinda guys...

JohnHwangDD wrote:
But as I said, I won't make that mistake with you again. Sorry.

And so JohnHwangDD has now officially become a martyr and a saint of Dakkadom. In other news at ten.....

I feeled ignored. I asked the question how much are these going to be worth?

Can we have more bionic sculpts?
They look great , wont infringe GW , im sure lots of people want them.

I think they will be priceless!

Honestly, I cant give an answer until they have been molded and cost to make is found out.

ZOMG(sorry to excited to actually read the thread, so apologies if its already been mentioned) but some of these helmets remind me of the dudes standing behind/next to the emperor in this pic:
http://gamingtp.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/fullview_emperor-horus.jpg

If you could sculpt helmets that look like the ones in the lower right corner of that image (I.E. - capture that level of detail/intricacy in the sculpt) I will buy a chapters worth of these heads from you (that may be an exaggeration), especially if you can sculpt matching shoulder pads The helmets look fairly similar to the second image you posted, I'm sure you could easily modify it...

...and I dont even play marines... although this could persuade me otherwise...

Although I did catch a comment about truescaling kits... yeah, those would be awesome too... definitely start marines then...

chaos0xomega wrote:ZOMG(sorry to excited to actually read the thread, so apologies if its already been mentioned) but some of these helmets remind me of the dudes standing behind/next to the emperor in this pic:
http://gamingtp.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/fullview_emperor-horus.jpg

You're quite right!

WHO exactly are they? I can't tell which Legion they're supposed to represent...

My comments...

A: I severly dislike the greek style "ear to ear" plumage, and wouldn't buy this head, However, the proportions, mask, and helmet design all look ace. Without the row of spikes I would jump on it.

B: It appears that the bottom of the "jaw" vent is not symmetrical, I do love the layered style of the helmet in the back.

C: Looks stellar, nothing strikes me as odd or out of place, and it definately captures the style you were going for (I assume).

D: This is one of my favorite, I cant pin my finger on exactly why, I just really like this one a lot.

E: Looks like a "pignosed" varient of C, Also looks stellar, the biker comment above was accurate. I like it.

F: it appears the front band with rivets on the helmet tapers off into the lip of the helmet, this is fine as I can see you did that on the sides too, but it looks like the slope is a bit off, its nitpicking, but I know honest critique is hard to get. It looks like between the two rivets on the front its about 1mm too short. I would bulk that out just a smidge, then have the band taper off at a sharper angel after the bottom rivet. Other than that this helmet almost made me nergasm. Great job.

G: DO WANT! Love it. Second Favorite.

H: F+G almost made me nergasm, this pushed me over the edge, my favorite of all, Between the smooth front stylized faceplate to the "Y"s in the rebreathers, to the rivets on the sides of the helmet, all is full of win.

I: Honestly this one doesnt belong in this batch. There is a need for someone to make a Space Marine skull helmet, but this just isn't it. If you want to do a jaw-less skull helmet it needs to look a bit less like a real skull supported by a helmet, and more like a helmet fashioned to look like a skull. The eyes are too low, the top of the head is too big, I like the detail work and I Wish it worked, but getting proportions wrong just turns everything off on a model.

Hope my opinion helps, And I look forward to getting a batch of these+the heresey Jump Packs from you guys soon

I love the gass mask look, and am a big fan of converting stormtroppers. I see good things hapining here.

Alpharius wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:ZOMG(sorry to excited to actually read the thread, so apologies if its already been mentioned) but some of these helmets remind me of the dudes standing behind/next to the emperor in this pic:
http://gamingtp.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/fullview_emperor-horus.jpg

You're quite right!

WHO exactly are they? I can't tell which Legion they're supposed to represent...

Those are old school Custodes. They were the only ones able to make it to the fight with the Emperor and Horus, if I remember right...

It's funny, but books, movies,and everybody else has to deal with post-production reviews.

But as I said, I won't make that mistake with you again. Sorry.

My point was and is, it is not ok to criticize concepts that are already set in stone. for that people go to the source of said concepts and complain there, not to the writer of a book during a post production interview.

Lets take your book and its post production criticism as a perfect example:
Tolkien et al came up with elven concepts.
A writer later publishes a book about orks and elves.
Then as a post production interviewer, as you say it, it would be ok for me to point out, suggest, complain about and criticize things like writing skills, bad storyline etc but NOT complain to the writer about the elves that I would like to see short and muscular instead of tall and thin since that "concept" is already set and not in the hands of the writer.

A: I severly dislike the greek style "ear to ear" plumage, and wouldn't buy this head, However, the proportions, mask, and helmet design all look ace. Without the row of spikes I would jump on it.

Ah, ok. Sorry it didnt fell to your tastes. Maybe it could still be usable in your hands after filing of the spiky plume?
Cutting metal is hard but filing I have no problems with myself.

B: It appears that the bottom of the "jaw" vent is not symmetrical, I do love the layered style of the helmet in the back.

Hmm, yes it appears to be this way in the pic. I honestly dont recall this one being non symmetrical when I finished with it. Weird but you seem to be right, hopefully the slight symmetrical flaw can be overlooked by people.

C: Looks stellar, nothing strikes me as odd or out of place, and it definately captures the style you were going for (I assume).

Thanks
I recall having trouble with the mesh pattern on the front of the rebreather cartridges, it could be crisper but I had a hard time doing them since even the scalpell tip was rather to big for the small space there.

D: This is one of my favorite, I cant pin my finger on exactly why, I just really like this one a lot.

Its inspired by the death guard IA pics. Official fluff that is.

E: Looks like a "pignosed" varient of C, Also looks stellar, the biker comment above was accurate. I like it.

Inspired by an amalgamation of concepts found in HH artbooks, HH novel cover art and german ww2 helmets...and some madmax.
Also the spikes are easy to cut of if people dont like them.

F: it appears the front band with rivets on the helmet tapers off into the lip of the helmet, this is fine as I can see you did that on the sides too, but it looks like the slope is a bit off, its nitpicking, but I know honest critique is hard to get. It looks like between the two rivets on the front its about 1mm too short. I would bulk that out just a smidge, then have the band taper off at a sharper angel after the bottom rivet. Other than that this helmet almost made me nergasm. Great job.

You are right, the bands display a slight thickness flaw in that place.
The bulbs/rivets are perfectly symmetrical though, the different spacing that you pointed out between the bottom front rivet and the upper ones is a deliberate thing by me and the spacing is copied on all sides so it looks ok. Dunno why I did it like that, just felt like it I guess.

And the band ending at the helmet edge and not going over the face mask is deliberate, as I already said after the top quote, I wanted a distinct feeling of helmet + mask as opposed to a one piece head gear because this is a strong concept of old looking marine armour, a concept kinda set in stone that I choose to follow.

G: DO WANT! Love it. Second Favorite.

Cool

H: F+G almost made me nergasm, this pushed me over the edge, my favorite of all, Between the smooth front stylized faceplate to the "Y"s in the rebreathers, to the rivets on the sides of the helmet, all is full of win.

Nice that you liked it. The cartridges really gave me a headache. I wanted different patterns on them and also conversion and placing functionality.
For that I needed the round shapes to go, hopfully people can accept non perfect round cartridges anyway.

I: Honestly this one doesnt belong in this batch. There is a need for someone to make a Space Marine skull helmet, but this just isn't it. If you want to do a jaw-less skull helmet it needs to look a bit less like a real skull supported by a helmet, and more like a helmet fashioned to look like a skull. The eyes are too low, the top of the head is too big, I like the detail work and I Wish it worked, but getting proportions wrong just turns everything off on a model.

I assume you are talking about the resculpted skull version?
Yeah, its kinda an love it or hate it helmet, what can I say

But you are right, it doesnt belong in the death guard -ish category and sure, it wont be placed there either.

I think I figured out what I don't like about these sculpts. The attempt to give them a Stahlhelm look makes it look like they're wearing helmets on their helmets. "Yo, Dawg! I heard you like helmets..."

Well it's a much better idea than running around without a helmet at all.

Wow, these are so cool! I love them because they're so different to what's out there. Especially the ones with the bumps on the helmets... I'm a sucker for bumps on helmets (just like bumps on shoulder pads)...

Can't wait to see them casted! Great work, Pyriel and it's awesome to see that you were able to change the last one in response to feedback, too!

Very nice - I think these would make excellent CSM heads - great for a 'lower profile' army where you dont want every model to have horns or a topknot jutting out the top of the helmet!

If I were starting a new army I would definately consider buying these, however as I already have large amounts of glued together CSM, Im unlikely to need any more heads!

Just wanted to let everyone know, these are going in for molding today.

The spike helmets will be in a resin set, as well as the gasmask helmets.

The skull helmet will be alone.

Also the Resin Jumppack is being molded in sets of 5.

Nick

Can't wait to see these guys painted up... Have been quiet on new models this week, I was getting used to the constant good news!

Nice!

These are being molded next week so I will have preorder prices available then

I like these heads - and especially the improved/resculpted skull head.
Some of the heads are a bit too much "Warzone" for my taste - but I might use them for traitor guard anyway.


As for a skull helmet needing I lower jaw (or breathing apparatus):
I do not agree.
In this picture I wear my live role playing gear - which includes a home made helmet with a skull mask (inspired by General Kael in Willow):

...actually it is me X3 in the picture, due to photoshop duplication

Pyriel- wrote:So finished resculpting the skull helmet, removed the "cap" added a skull, made it look armoured and added small vents on top to tie in more with the SM feel.
Hope it looks better then the previous one. I´m going to use it on legion of the damned minis myself and maybe as an imperial assassin.

Remade the "headphones" or audio augurs (whatever they are called).
Added those hallow spaces behind the eye bones as well thanks to being reminded to do skulls as they are supposed to look.

This allows me to make my own chaplins for my Flesh Tearers. I can't wait.

Hehe, wait till you see the Fleshtearer Terminator Pads one of our new guys just did, youll #@$% yourself.

Any pics and what is the eta? Starting my FT from scratch and want to be sure everything is perfect.

2-3 weeks. No pics yet (that I can show ).

I can hardly wait I ordered 20 jump packs for pre heresy and these will go nicely

Whips are in hand, I need to photo them and post on the site, the warrior ones will go for $2 each the extra beefy tyrant ones will for $4.

P.S. First sets of boneswords will ship to customers tommorow. Demand is way outstripping supply, but if your order is in, they will be shipped.

Heresy jumppacks were not molding well, so they will be in next week (quality over speed).

Damn, dont say the green master was ruined...

Pyriel- wrote:

just interested in future head designs is there any cahnce of a wolf skull style one?

Hmm, GW already sell those so I dont know really.
Maybe if enough people nag about them I can cook something up

GW has a wolf head...and some wolf skulls ornaments. Unfortuantely, the wolf skulls are a bit too small to use as a helmet for my wolf priest conversions . But yeah...nag, nag, nag, nag . By the way the skull helmet does look very impressive and would be a great addition for someone who wanted to make a entire chapter of "the legion of the damned".

Those are some excellent looking helmets. Personally, I really think that these would go great on space marines. Awesome job.

Gotta ask, how's the Jet-seer coming? I've had an interest in 'em recently, and a Farseer on a bike would be amazing for what I've got planned.

I have them, photoed the greens, and are sending them in for molding tommorow

ETA 2 weeks till presales.

Nick

Helmets look nice, not to my personal tastes but still awesome work as always. Definetly gonna be big among the nurgle lovers. Honestly I'm anxious to see some of those new pre heresy shoulder pads I spotted on here a while ago, not the thunder armor ones, the layered ribbed ones.

All of the helmets look really nice!

I like these helmets a lot, I've purchased a couple of your vehicle upgrade kits before and they were great. Any idea how these heads would look or fit on Terminator armor? Of course I'd probably have to cut the spikes off

Will there ever be more (better) female IG heads? Or any other IG gear? You guys have shown how good you are with nids and SM but your IG offering was sort of... well...

The heads are in the works right now, as well as torso concepts.

Chapterhouse wrote:The heads are in the works right now, as well as torso concepts.

I would like to say that Torsos may be slightly unnecessary considering bits sites online sell Space Marine torsos of Mk5-7 armor for around 0.50 USD.

Personally, I would love to see Mk8 armor, but in spite of your designers' superb skills thus far, I am skeptical if you can get Mk8 or any armor to fit the current GW aesthetic.
Perhaps some really deviant armor may be nice, but it would be nice to keep this in consideration.

I was referring to female IG torsos

Guess he was talking about female IG torsoes, fitting the female IG heads he was referring to

Chapter

First a big up - received the genestealer heads yesterday and they are great, especially loved the ones with the open mouths. Bought them for my lads birthday, he's building a nid army from scratch for his birthday and was really chuffed that his ymargl's will be unique

Second - How's the jetseer/warlock coming on, I am chomping at the bit for these. prices and preorder dates required

third - do you have anymore eldar bits in the pipeline?


Will post some pics of the stealers once painted


cheers

Kroothawk wrote:Guess he was talking about female IG torsoes, fitting the female IG heads he was referring to

and we know how much all you pervs out there like to refer to IG female torsos. Damn you, slaaneshi traitor guard!

ruminant wrote:Chapter

First a big up - received the genestealer heads yesterday and they are great, especially loved the ones with the open mouths. Bought them for my lads birthday, he's building a nid army from scratch for his birthday and was really chuffed that his ymargl's will be unique

Second - How's the jetseer/warlock coming on, I am chomping at the bit for these. prices and preorder dates required

third - do you have anymore eldar bits in the pipeline?


Will post some pics of the stealers once painted


cheers

Glad he liked them

News on the seerbikes, molds are made, production is beginning, we are looking at a $15-17 price range for the kits (with tons of bits). I think its a good price, consider GW charges 20$ for a metal character simple sculpt, this one will have many bits for the bike and the riders.

I recieved the Female Farseer on foot yesterday, Its a NICE sculpt, with sword and spear right arms, and "energy ball" or palm out left arms. This will be molded soon and up for release as well, price range 14$ or so.

Nick

Hate to be a pester, but I'm getting excited about the heads/jumppacks/shoulders I ordered, any idea approx when the jump packs will be shipping out for order numbers over 800 and under 900?

cheers for the update

put me down for at least one, I don't suppose there will be spare legs and arms etc to build the three torso's up?

to buy separately I mean


hmmm female farseer, got a seer council to paint may wait now, pics would be nice


again really pleased with heads, my congrats to the sculpter

Demogerg wrote:Hate to be a pester, but I'm getting excited about the heads/jumppacks/shoulders I ordered, any idea approx when the jump packs will be shipping out for order numbers over 800 and under 900?

Relax. I haven't gotten mine yet either, and I'm toward the bottom of the 800s.

Ill list which ones ship out once they are in the mail tommorow.

Hey can we post ideas of things we would love to see sculpted here?

The female IG torsos aren't going to be overtly sexualized, are they?

Shoo, post good art and we will see what we can do.. ideas are like bung-holes.... good concept art is like gold..

What, so you'd like some good concept art for IG torsos?


I'm trying not to laugh, since female torsos are right up there in things I'm commissioned to draw, sexualized or otherwise.

And in defense of sexualized: if they're catachans (or tankies), there's going to be some cleavage.

Cadians, valhallans, Talleran, not so much.

BaronIveagh wrote:What, so you'd like some good concept art for IG torsos?


I'm trying not to laugh, since female torsos are right up there in things I'm commissioned to draw, sexualized or otherwise.

And in defense of sexualized: if they're catachans (or tankies), there's going to be some cleavage.

Cadians, valhallans, Talleran, not so much.

Yes please! Shoot me an email if you want to help us out - nick@chapterhousestudios.com

BTW Orders up to PO# 709 are shipped with Jumppacks, everything is is way ahead (boneswords, whips and alien heads are well on the way to being caught up). We have 3 molds of jetpacks in production now.

Chapterhouse wrote:

BaronIveagh wrote:What, so you'd like some good concept art for IG torsos?


I'm trying not to laugh, since female torsos are right up there in things I'm commissioned to draw, sexualized or otherwise.

And in defense of sexualized: if they're catachans (or tankies), there's going to be some cleavage.

Cadians, valhallans, Talleran, not so much.

Yes please! Shoot me an email if you want to help us out - nick@chapterhousestudios.com

Ok, give me a day or two and I'll get on it. Not sure how the next few days will play out.

You may want to have a look, how "tins bitz" http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?list=WG934 , Shadowforge http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?list=WG1078 and Dr. Death over at Warseer made these.

BTW, how about concepts of female Tau fire warriors and Eldar guardians. And you should not do upper bodies only, like GW does.

... I bought some shadowforge ones. I would prefer that if I do draw these, they're modeled to a higher standard then that. The ones I got from SF look Ok from the angle their photographed at, but have some serious deformations and loss of detail. tins bitz's heads are ok. they're not great, the barrette one looks squashed laterally.

I was looking more at how DarkSoul did them for TPC. They were a head/torso/leg set, that by and large was OK. The heads had serious quality control issues, but the bodies fit together well and required a minimum of greenstuff to make look good.

Yeah,

I heavily persued Dark Soul and tried to find Dr. Thunder (he is gone from the scene). I was quickly told by DS that he owns the molds and refuses to let anyone else do anything with them (as far as I know hes not casting them either). Maybe it was just me but he was very much short with his reply.

Disappointing, as that means starting at step one, but I guess we can do it better then it was done.

Nick

Well, the moulds were done under an official agreement with GW that they are a limited release just for the people who signed up. So he is not allowed to make recasts, as he has told people for maybe 3 years now (explains the short answer )

Ah, now see, that would have been a great answer

I am surprised GW had any input, they arent copied of anything, though they look like cadians, that isnt exactly an original uniform.

The project people asked GW if it is okay, GW didn't approach them on its own.

Yeah, DS isn't a very happy camper. Apparently some people at warseer have been continuously sending people his way to ask him for the female cadian minis. I have about 20 left still on the sprues, but I've had offers as high as 200 dollars for them.

I haven't heard from Doc since TPC's site got hacked. He's been AWOL since then, at least.

Better yet, how about something NOT marine related for a change... Maybe Tau or Eldar

Um, Havoc: they're producing Eldar. You know, that jetbike seer's council thing?

ATM we're talking IG. But don't get me wrong, some female Tau would be sweet...

Just add concept sketches of female Fire Warriors and we will see

For some reason, an image of the Knight Sabers just flashed in my mind when you wrote that...

That's the right spirit

BaronIveagh wrote:And in defense of sexualized: if they're catachans (or tankies), there's going to be some cleavage.

Cadians, valhallans, Talleran, not so much.

Pretty much what I was thinking, so no worries.

Jetpacks finally arrived Promptly stabbed self with xacto knife.