Just to clarify, this isn't a "make a new army like this" thread... I'm basically talking about "oh it would be cool if this existed in 40k" or "imagine if *blank* fought a Space Marine!"
I'll start:
Predators...
Headcrabs...
Predators because I love their philosophy, and watching one stalk some Marines through a jungle would be interesting Though I imagine if they have any form of thermal vision it's dead...
Headcrabs because the idea of a Space Marine zombie is awesome...
Henners91 wrote:Just to clarify, this isn't a "make a new army like this" thread... I'm basically talking about "oh it would be cool if this existed in 40k" or "imagine if *blank* fought a Space Marine!"
I'll start:
Predators...
Headcrabs...
Predators because I love their philosophy, and watching one stalk some Marines through a jungle would be interesting Though I imagine if they have any form of thermal vision it's dead...
Headcrabs because the idea of a Space Marine zombie is awesome...
Reavers from "Firefly"...wait nevermind we already have that in Chaos.
Borg...wait never mind we already have that in the Adept of Mars.
um...
Predators is a good choice. We would then need to see a story about Sly fighting Predators on a jungle planet.
Xenomorphs,I would love to see them get slaughtered by the Terminators and their jaw and tail could do nothing to the armor well maybe the acid,but the Terminator armor was designed to stand that and o wait we've already got the Genestealers.
Heh, I just don't see the predator thing working well.
In the movies and comics it stalks humans with its superior senses, strength, technology, and cunning.
I don't see them doing to well trying to stalk a space marine, what with the space marines having superior senses, strength, technology, and cunning to the predator. It would be a massecre.
I would say Xenomorphs...but that is what the tyranids are right?
Hmm.
Every non-anime style race I think of ends the same way. Space marines have just out grim-darked everything else out there.
Yeah another vote for Predators here. They are just too cool to ignore, I love their battle style, and philosophy.
I am pretty sure a predator could take a marine. They seem close in a normal 1v1 fight and the idea of predators is to draw the marines into a trap. They have a cunning that isn't there in marines.
Predators are pretty cool. You just have to envision them with the technology upgrades of the 41st millenium and they'll compete. Make them "super kroot" and work them right into the Tau.
I'd love to see a true robotic/artificial intelligence army. The Necrons just don't feel right and there's the whole Egyptianesque tint to them. It'd be great if they had infiltrators where you took over a random soldier in an enemy unit and he became a rampaging terminator (i.e., Arnold Schwarzenegger) in disguise.
Its always forgotten that marines are trained in every aspect of war, from guerrilla warfare to special ops to traditional. There is plenty of fluff to support them being sneaky b*, using traps, ambushes, and camouflage when necessary.
Physically...even if we assume their strength is even, marines have speed, redundancy, and the ability to insta-clog fatal wounds.
Ok, off topic I know. I'm just saying, 40k goes WAY overkill on the fluff. It is difficult for any of the more realistic sci-fi universes to compete.
4M2A wrote:Yeah another vote for Predators here. They are just too cool to ignore, I love their battle style, and philosophy.
I am pretty sure a predator could take a marine. They seem close in a normal 1v1 fight and the idea of predators is to draw the marines into a trap. They have a cunning that isn't there in marines.
It would be like if Kroot had invisbility, really awesome weapons and the ability to impersonate someone else laughing.
Other than obvious aesthetics, the Tyranids are nothing like the Xenomorphs. Look them up.
NORLY? RLY?
Xenomorphs are boring. The Hive Mind aspect of Tyranids is far better than a killer ant colony designed with a phallic perspective courtesy of Giger.
Kanluwen wrote:
NORLY? RLY?
Xenomorphs are boring. The Hive Mind aspect of Tyranids is far better than a killer ant colony designed with a phallic perspective courtesy of Giger.
vleermie wrote:Aliens from alien. 'nuff said =)
Your response:
Kanluwen wrote:Pssst.
Tyranids. Look them up.
You may have your opinion, but just because you don't share the same view, doesn't give you the right or reason to shoot down other people's ideas. If some people want to see the Xenomorphs in the 40k universe despite you thinking they're "boring", you have no right to tell them otherwise.
By the way, I hate to tell you, but without Giger and his design of the Xenomorphs, there would be no Tyranids (at least none that are close to those we have today). Giger made everything that the Xenomorphs are, and by default, everything (aesthetically) the Tyranids are.
P.S. I find it hillarious how worked up you're getting when someone calls you out on something that could be easily settled in a civil manner.
Darth Bob wrote:Predators and Kroot have nothing in common; so how you got that logic, I don't know.
Kroot are hunters of a sort, so are Predators.
I was just trying to be funny and not shoot someone's idea down so you know. But was also trying to point out how Kroot can handle Marines, more or less, so why couldn't a Predator?
Darth Bob wrote:Predators and Kroot have nothing in common; so how you got that logic, I don't know.
Kroot are hunters of a sort, so are Predators.
I was just trying to be funny and not shoot someone's idea down so you know.
Well, I guess that's kinda true, perhaps my comment came off as a bit harsh....sorry .
Don't worry about it. I edited my first response to you to explain a little of what I tried to do so others don't feel I was being too vague in my comparison.
Kanluwen wrote:
NORLY? RLY?
Xenomorphs are boring. The Hive Mind aspect of Tyranids is far better than a killer ant colony designed with a phallic perspective courtesy of Giger.
vleermie wrote:Aliens from alien. 'nuff said =)
Your response:
Kanluwen wrote:Pssst.
Tyranids. Look them up.
You may have your opinion, but just because you don't share the same view, doesn't give you the right or reason to shoot down other people's ideas. If some people want to see the Xenomorphs in the 40k universe despite you thinking they're "boring", you have no right to tell them otherwise.
By the way, I hate to tell you, but without Giger and his design of the Xenomorphs, there would be no Tyranids (at least none that are close to those we have today). Giger made everything that the Xenomorphs are, and by default, everything (aesthetically) the Tyranids are.
P.S. I find it hilarious how worked up you're getting when someone calls you out on something that could be easily settled in a civil manner.
Sarcasm is apparently lost on you.
I'm very much aware of the influence that the Xenomorphs had on Tyranids, thanks. I'm also aware of the influence that Robert Heinlein's description of the 'Bugs' had on that same design(when was the last time you saw Xenomorphs carrying guns?)
I'm just saying there's no reason to bring another 'hive' based alien race into the mix, considering the similarities between Tyranids, the Bugs from SST, and the Xenomorphs.
Kanluwen wrote:
NORLY? RLY?
Xenomorphs are boring. The Hive Mind aspect of Tyranids is far better than a killer ant colony designed with a phallic perspective courtesy of Giger.
vleermie wrote:Aliens from alien. 'nuff said =)
Your response:
Kanluwen wrote:Pssst.
Tyranids. Look them up.
You may have your opinion, but just because you don't share the same view, doesn't give you the right or reason to shoot down other people's ideas. If some people want to see the Xenomorphs in the 40k universe despite you thinking they're "boring", you have no right to tell them otherwise.
By the way, I hate to tell you, but without Giger and his design of the Xenomorphs, there would be no Tyranids (at least none that are close to those we have today). Giger made everything that the Xenomorphs are, and by default, everything (aesthetically) the Tyranids are.
P.S. I find it hilarious how worked up you're getting when someone calls you out on something that could be easily settled in a civil manner.
Sarcasm is apparently lost on you.
I'm very much aware of the influence that the Xenomorphs had on Tyranids, thanks. I'm also aware of the influence that Robert Heinlein's description of the 'Bugs' had on that same design(when was the last time you saw Xenomorphs carrying guns?)
I'm just saying there's no reason to bring another 'hive' based alien race into the mix, considering the similarities between Tyranids, the Bugs from SST, and the Xenomorphs.
Well I could fall back on my thought of Borg...A hiveminded Necron like army!
Xenomorphs, ok, so you guys are just thinking standard way Aliens, now imagine this, queen sneaks onto a Space Marine held world, face hugger go in, faces get humped, Aliens will be massive, cause we know what happened with preds, now we got supa humans getting even more superized. Also, ORKALIEN! fungal spreading xenomorphs! or... FISHALIEN i mean tau... I mean, the options for xenomorphs aren't limited to impregnating humans, Hybrid species ftw.
Ok, now for Predator, are we all forgetting that they will probably have the best functioning plasma weapon featured in any race? Not to mention weapons made of nigh indestructable materials wich would more then dent a set of power armor. And don't forget, they have Space ships with cloaking capabilities, eat that Imperium.
Other race I'd loven to see.... Bugs from Starship troopers for the slaughtery fun...
Covenant would be fun for all the obvious reasons... though they are very Tau like in the whole multiple races under one banner way... And I want to see Hunters fighting nids....
Mass Effect reapers :3 though that would be kind of game over...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_species_in_the_Mass_Effect_universe#Reapers ( for the un knowing)
Kanluwen wrote:The modifications to the Space Marine physiology aren't inheritable traits, so you wouldn't have "Xenomarines".
Actually they are, since their actual DNA is altered through the progenoid glands etc. Though I agree that the extra organs that are just implanted and such won't be inheritable.
I'd like to see the "lizardmen in space idea", but I'd rather if their appearance was similar to Bossk (From star wars). A sort of technologically adept race, more scientifically minded than the Imperium, but not as sleek as the Tau. There's alot of cool vehicle disign asthetic to be explored that is not As gothic/spikey as Imperium and DE, as polished as Tau/eldar, or as rough as Ork.
The Mangalores from 5th element would be a good choice also. They are a bit orc'ish, but as they aren't hunched, have a much less bulky apperance and weapons, and a different coloration, it wouldn't be hard to make them significantly un-orcish.
Kanluwen wrote:
NORLY? RLY?
Xenomorphs are boring. The Hive Mind aspect of Tyranids is far better than a killer ant colony designed with a phallic perspective courtesy of Giger.
vleermie wrote:Aliens from alien. 'nuff said =)
Your response:
Kanluwen wrote:Pssst.
Tyranids. Look them up.
You may have your opinion, but just because you don't share the same view, doesn't give you the right or reason to shoot down other people's ideas. If some people want to see the Xenomorphs in the 40k universe despite you thinking they're "boring", you have no right to tell them otherwise.
By the way, I hate to tell you, but without Giger and his design of the Xenomorphs, there would be no Tyranids (at least none that are close to those we have today). Giger made everything that the Xenomorphs are, and by default, everything (aesthetically) the Tyranids are.
P.S. I find it hilarious how worked up you're getting when someone calls you out on something that could be easily settled in a civil manner.
Sarcasm is apparently lost on you.
I'm very much aware of the influence that the Xenomorphs had on Tyranids, thanks. I'm also aware of the influence that Robert Heinlein's description of the 'Bugs' had on that same design(when was the last time you saw Xenomorphs carrying guns?)
I'm just saying there's no reason to bring another 'hive' based alien race into the mix, considering the similarities between Tyranids, the Bugs from SST, and the Xenomorphs.
And civility is apparently lost on you.
You're just saying you're right and everyone else is wrong. You may not think theres a reason to have another hive-based-race, but obviously some people do, so stop bringing peoples' ideas down, as you have no right or reason to do so. Your sarcasm was recognized, bro. However, it came off as extremely rude and condescending.
P.S. I still find it hillarious how worked up you're getting over this...
Darth Bob wrote:
And civility is apparently lost on you.
You're just saying you're right and everyone else is wrong. You may not think there's a reason to have another hive-based-race, but obviously some people do, so stop bringing peoples' ideas down, as you have no right or reason to do so. Your sarcasm was recognized, bro. However, it came off as extremely rude and condescending.
P.S. I still find it hillarious how worked up you're getting over this...
Worked up would be me taking the time to flame and inform you that not everyone's been involved in 40k as long as either of us have been, and might just be unaware of the original linkage between Xenomorphs and Tyranids.
As it is, I think I'll just put you on Ignore as you never really seem to contribute much to the forums other than ridiculous animated avatars and 4chan references.
Darth Bob wrote: And civility is apparently lost on you.
You're just saying you're right and everyone else is wrong. You may not think there's a reason to have another hive-based-race, but obviously some people do, so stop bringing peoples' ideas down, as you have no right or reason to do so. Your sarcasm was recognized, bro. However, it came off as extremely rude and condescending.
P.S. I still find it hillarious how worked up you're getting over this...
Worked up would be me taking the time to flame and inform you that not everyone's been involved in 40k as long as either of us have been, and might just be unaware of the original linkage between Xenomorphs and Tyranids.
As it is, I think I'll just put you on Ignore as you never really seem to contribute much to the forums other than ridiculous animated avatars and 4chan references.
Aaaah immaturity at its finest. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
P.S. No-one let this silly argument which could have been avoided derail the thread. Some people just don't like it when they're called out for acting like a troll.
Critters from the movies( thoug fur balls with teeth)
ALF yeah the loveable cat eating alien...
Transformers.... would love too see a spacemarine weapon or landraider transformer in front of them...
All ridiculousness aside, I think Demogerg wins. LM in space, *ahem ahem,* Slaan would be the best entry. Good archnemesis for the otherwise blue-headed stepchildren known as Tau.
The Geth from mass effect could be interesting, which also ties in with the whole Terminator vibe of machines destroying their creators and actual A.I. as opposed to the Necrons souls in a metal husk approach. (which is by all means just as awesome)
Perhaps a Combine style army(from the half life series), in which living creatures are enhanced with technology. Species enslaved, re-educated and either absorbed or destroyed depending on their overall usefulness. Kind of like an evil Tau now that I think about it.
Critters would be the ultimate horde army. They got shooting attacks already with those stun spines. Heck I could see a rule where when you have 50+ of them, they get into a giant rolling ball of eating fury.
Gremlins would be interesting as well, albeit only ever playable under night fighting rules
Jawas. Could be the unsquatted squats, Numbers so few that most of there army is made up of AI. Oh, and anytime someone mentions Rancor, it reminds me of that scene in the pineapple express movie where the black dude tells saul to get into the hole and he's like "Whats in there? A F******RANCOR!?!"
competivly/fluff wise i would seriously consider Some races from the Mass Effect Universe (totally support the Geth Collective Idea) organized in much the same manner as the Tau (as far as multitude of races are concerned). Though it'd probably would be boiled down to the Citidel Races circa ME2; Humans, Asari, Salarian, Turian.
The Galactic Empire from Starwars i can totally see surviving in a 40K universe, as with either the jedi or sith from the Old Republic Era.
Now Eldar, Nids, and Space marines competing against both their HALO and Blizzard counter parts (3 way FFA for each) would be very interesting
for those that dont know:
Space Marines= Terrans = Spartans
Eldar = Protoss = Covenant
Nids = Zerg = Flood
though the covenant would be more comparable to Tau as far as a multitude of races. And the Flood to Nurgle
Both Chuck Norris and Captain Falcon could be stand alone unique units, both costing at roughly 700-1000 pts each
Wookies. They appear to be a ramshackle race on par with the orks, and then you realise that their apparently primitive weapons are actually technologically advanced and quite effective. Something so furry would be interesting from a design and painting point of view. And you could do interesting vehicles that were sort of organic (not just smooth lines like the eldar and tau) and yet mechanical. No square boxes.
Yoda species could be interesting. Interesting psykic powers, not much shooting but a knack of deflecting it. Good in CC in a 'why can't I hit you!' way. Probably represented as high armour (hard to get a hit going through) and low toughness (if you do they don't tend to survive). Elite army with very few vehicles.
Morgrim. wookies would be cool if the sculpters at GW could get the fur right. so far with the beastmen and new skaven, and the spacewolves. the fur for me has been a miss. Id hope the could pull it off but currently im doutful.
That would be heaps of fun, but aren't the Ur-quan (both flavors) a more interesting matchup?
Personaly, I'd prefer the kohr ah.
"We are the Ur-quan Kohr ah. We cleanse our destiny. You will soon die. Make whatever rituals are necessary for your species."
I mean really, They have extarminated at least 25000 intelligent races in half the galaxy.
Against the imperium, a civilization with a very similar attitude against other races, they would start an immidiate war of attrition, that neither side would ever back down from.
Though I imagine if they have any form of thermal vision it's dead...
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