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Forge World Newsletter #233: Wrath of the Tau! Update: #234 hit. Not much news though. @ 2010/03/25 16:33:39


Post by: Kanluwen


Fresh from my inbox to your eyes:

Forge World wrote:
Hi There,

There’s just enough time before our Open Day this weekend to fill you in with some further previews and news of what’s going on at the event. Remember, entry to the Open Day is free and it takes place this coming Sunday, the 28th of March at Warhammer World in Nottingham. Doors will open at 10am, and the event will finish at 4pm. We hope to see as many of you there for what is always one of the best shows we do in the year.

Thanks
Alan Bligh



We hope to have limited stocks of the following brand new models to purchase at the show. This is a great opportunity to get hold of these great new models, well before their standard release date.

New Tau Battlesuits!

Our first exciting preview for the weekend are three new variant XV9 Battlesuits, which you can see below, and include a new Tau Commander. These fantastic and characterful new Tau battlesuits have been designed by Daren Parrwood. Rules for the XV9 can be found in Imperial Armour Apocalypse II.


First of a new set of resin upgrades for the plastic Stompa kit, we have a titan-killing Claw Arm, a new Ork Stompa Head complete with the baleful gaze of Mork (or possibly Gork) and fighting-platform jaw, and the devastating if dangerously erratic Lifta-Droppa! These wonderfully ramshackle looking sets have been designed by Stuart Williamson, with crew by Mark Bedford.

We also hope to have the first examples of our new Space Wolves Transfer Sheet available for sale at the Open Day. These large (A4) full colour sheets contain the symbols for each of the Space Wolves Great Companies, allowing you to customise the Sons of Fenris in any manner you choose. The sheet has over 400 symbols, including symbols sized for Terminator shoulder pads, and extensive wolf head and claw vehicle icons. The Space Wolves Transfer Sheet has been produced by Paul Rudge.

As a special offer at Open Day 2010, attendees will be the first to be able to pre-order the soon-to-be-released Imperial Armour 8 -Raid on Kastorel-Novem. Copies paid for at the show will be signed by the author, and sent without any postage charge when the book is released.

Other New Models also Available at the Show

As featured in our last preview newsletter, we also expect to have Raven Guard Rhino Doors, Raven Guard Land Raider Doors, Raven Guard Terminator Land Raider Doors, Elysian Troops for the Valkyrie, the four wheeled Tauros Assault Vehicle, and our new show-only model for 2010, the Ork Runtbot with Grot available to buy in limited quantities.

Things to do at the Show

At the Forge World Open day, we'll have all our studio staff on hand to answer your questions and show off lots of previously unseen models and other cool things we have in store for you. We'll also have a well-stocked sales stand, participation games, a pre-production copy of our next Imperial armour book on display, and of course the facilities of Warhammer World and Bugman's Bar will also be open.


Oh man, I like those new XV-9s.


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Post by: Death By Monkeys


The battlesuits almost make me wish I played Tau. Almost. They're pretty hot. Any idea what the weapons on the first two are supposed to be? The first one looks like it's got a V-8 engine strapped to it. I'd expect that out of Orks, but Tau? I figured they'd at least managed to develop hybrid technology. Don't they look like they ought to drive Priuses?


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Post by: Ketara


GW won't be releasing a new plastic kit then. Not if Forgeworld just made new ones.


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Post by: DEATH89


Sweet, now I need a payrise


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Post by: Kanluwen


Ketara wrote:GW won't be releasing a new plastic kit then. Not if Forgeworld just made new ones.

These are the XV-9 "Hazard" suits and the new weapon variants we were told about awhile ago. Not the XV-8s. It's still possible we'll see XV-8s redone in the style of the FW ones.


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Post by: LEEQAEX


Tau have some of the nicest Elite walker type vechicals . Shame I dont like the troops not enough spikey scary bits on them


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Post by: Kanluwen


Death By Monkeys wrote:The battlesuits almost make me wish I played Tau. Almost. They're pretty hot. Any idea what the weapons on the first two are supposed to be? The first one looks like it's got a V-8 engine strapped to it. I'd expect that out of Orks, but Tau? I figured they'd at least managed to develop hybrid technology. Don't they look like they ought to drive Priuses?
I have no clue what the weapons are. But if I had to guess?

Left one seems to have some type of either a railgun or ion weapon. I'd guess ion, since the weapon body itself has the same general shape as the Hammerhead's ion cannon.
Middle one seems to be a commander, which means...I have no clue what the primary weapon is. It has a shield though! Guessing some form of souped up plasma rifle or 'heavy' rail cannon?
Right one has what looks like some form of fusion gatling weapon. Again, may be completely wrong...but the weapon body looks about right.


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Post by: Kirasu


Id actually consider playing Tau if GW redid the X-8s so they didnt look like anime inspired chicken legged warriors


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Post by: Myrthe


Damn !!! I've dodged placing a Forge World order for months but now I will have to place one ... for the Space Wolf Transfers of all things !!!!!


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Post by: Bloodthirster


And this is why ladies and gentlemen, that if your going to buy an army from GW and not stores like, "The Warstore", you should buy it from FW. The extra invesment needed isn't as much as used to be . I hoping to start a Army for IA8 thanks to this! Cheers, BT


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Post by: AesSedai


They look great, thanks for posting!

Burst cannon: Str 5 AP5 6 shot with re-rolls
Polarised ion gun: 18" range Str 6 AP6, assault 6, rending
Fusion cascade: 12" range Str 6 AP1, D6 shots melta
Pulse sub munition rifle: 24" range, STR 5, AP 6 assault 1, 5" blast, no cover saves.

I read this on Tau Tactica a while ago. I wonder which is which.


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Post by: Kanluwen


With actual names to work from?

Left is Polarised Ion Gun, Fusion Cascade is right, and Pulse Submunition Rifle is middle.


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Post by: Death By Monkeys


AesSedai wrote:They look great, thanks for posting!

Burst cannon: Str 5 AP5 6 shot with re-rolls
Polarised ion gun: 18" range Str 6 AP6, assault 6, rending
Fusion cascade: 12" range Str 6 AP1, D6 shots melta
Pulse sub munition rifle: 24" range, STR 5, AP 6 assault 1, 5" blast, no cover saves.

I read this on Tau Tactica a while ago. I wonder which is which.

I'm gonna guess that the one on the left is the Pulse Sub Munition Rifle or the Polarised Ion Gun (but that thing looks like it's got a range of at least 24") and the one in the middle is the Fusion Cascade (due to the flattened, rectangular shape being similar to the Tau's other fusion guns).

Edit: LOL. Ninja'd by Kanluwen who makes completely different guesses than mine.


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Post by: Steelmage99


I HATE those new suits!

What was biggest gripe with the existing models (besides looking a bit boxy)?

The had flimsy ankles that looked like they would never carry the weight of the suit.

What does FW do?

They fix the ankles, but they make the waist look absolutely idiotic.
It's like they have a directive telling them to make something flimsy-looking no matter what.

*Sigh*


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Post by: Kanluwen


Of course I do. I make the RIGHT ones, Death!

Look at the actual weapons though. The one in the middle has the general look of the rail weapons we've seen--which make perfect sense for it to be just a railgun by another name.

As for the Fusion Cascade being the one on the right--it's the barrel that makes me think that one would be the Fusion Cascade weapon. The 'vents' that are sleeved around the round drum barrel just scream "FUSION WEAPON!" to me.

Either way, I wish I could get to the Open Day and grab some stuff. Maybe take a few FW sculptors home with me and get them working on a multi-part Kasrkin kit with options for snipers, heavy weapons, and a heavy stubber setup.


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Post by: Fateweaver


Damn, I'll need more money soon. And to get off my ass and get my Tau done.


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Post by: Commander Endova


Decals for all the Great Companies?

THE RAZORBACKS OF EGIL IRONWOLF'S GREAT COMPANY RIDE TO GLORIOUS BATTLE!!!!


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Post by: Uriels_Flame


Burst Cannon not shown (or is on the first one they had out)

Ion - Fusion - Plasma Sub in the pic shown.

ALL FREAKING COOL!


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Post by: Scottywan82


I want... pretty much all of this.


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Post by: Little lord Fauntleroy


Damn. I almost want to play a Tau army now.

Almost.


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Post by: Breotan


Steelmage99 wrote:They fix the ankles, but they make the waist look absolutely idiotic.
The waist is typical of anime.


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Post by: Death By Monkeys


Kanluwen wrote:Look at the actual weapons though. The one in the middle has the general look of the rail weapons we've seen--which make perfect sense for it to be just a railgun by another name.

As for the Fusion Cascade being the one on the right--it's the barrel that makes me think that one would be the Fusion Cascade weapon. The 'vents' that are sleeved around the round drum barrel just scream "FUSION WEAPON!" to me.

Mm. Good call on the ion gun. I forgot that the big ion cannons were also powered by V-8 engines. And I'll also give you that the lack of venting on the middle one could indicate that it's the sub munition rifle, but frankly, I don't see that it has any more resemblance to a rail gun than it does to fusion gun - they're both rectangular and flat. <shrug> And as far as the one on the right goes, I think those ones look more like plasma guns than either fusion or burst cannons. It has the two barrel muzzles like the fusion gun does, but the cylindrical shape makes it look more like a burst cannon, imho. I don't spend much time with Tau models, so this is all speculation based on pics, though.

Kanluwen wrote:Either way, I wish I could get to the Open Day and grab some stuff. Maybe take a few FW sculptors home with me and get them working on a multi-part Kasrkin kit with options for snipers, heavy weapons, and a heavy stubber setup.

Chain them up in the basement with the rest of your sculpting staff?


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Post by: Kanluwen


Who told you about the rest of my sculpting staff?!


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Post by: The Dreadnote


Oh man, those are awesome. I think the ion gun's my favourite.


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Post by: Kanluwen


Oh, and just as a reminder:

The Burst Cannon XV-9 Hazard has been available for quite awhile at 25 GBP. So consider the prices of the new ones accordingly.(Photo for reference)


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Post by: Fafnir


The guns on the one to the left look like the Kojima Cannons from AC4/fa... so, by that logic, they should be absurdly powerful, but with an incredibly slow projectile and with the requirment of charging for 15 seconds between each shot.

But that's only the Raven in me (RAVEN! NOT LINX! RAVEN!) talking.


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Post by: ShumaGorath


AesSedai wrote:They look great, thanks for posting!

Burst cannon: Str 5 AP5 6 shot with re-rolls
Polarised ion gun: 18" range Str 6 AP6, assault 6, rending
Fusion cascade: 12" range Str 6 AP1, D6 shots melta
Pulse sub munition rifle: 24" range, STR 5, AP 6 assault 1, 5" blast, no cover saves.

I read this on Tau Tactica a while ago. I wonder which is which.


Those are not the correct gun stats. Burst canons only have three shots, the PHASED ion gun is strength 4 ap4 with 4 shots, and the melta weapon is d3 shots. The submunition round is right though.


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Post by: carmachu


Looks good from the waist up. Not liking the legs.


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Post by: H.B.M.C.


I knew they'd do Stompa conversion kits eventually.

And those suits are ace.


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Post by: Breotan


If I ever resurrect my Tau army, I'm definately grabbing FW suits.


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Post by: Casper


Breotan wrote:If I ever resurrect my Tau army, I'm definately grabbing FW suits.


Same, I may have to dust my tau off for these. Then again thats if I don't spend all the money on new ork stuff.


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Post by: DEATH89


ShumaGorath wrote:
AesSedai wrote:They look great, thanks for posting!

Burst cannon: Str 5 AP5 6 shot with re-rolls
Polarised ion gun: 18" range Str 6 AP6, assault 6, rending
Fusion cascade: 12" range Str 6 AP1, D6 shots melta
Pulse sub munition rifle: 24" range, STR 5, AP 6 assault 1, 5" blast, no cover saves.

I read this on Tau Tactica a while ago. I wonder which is which.


Those are not the correct gun stats. Burst canons only have three shots, the PHASED ion gun is strength 4 ap4 with 4 shots, and the melta weapon is d3 shots. The submunition round is right though.


Guessing from the way its written that he knows burst cannons are three shot and the suit has 2 sets of twin linked so he wrote it as 6 shots with re-rolls same goes for the fusion weapon i'd say, not a clue on the ion gun tho


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Post by: juraigamer


LEEQAEX wrote:Tau have some of the nicest Elite walker type vechicals . Shame I dont like the troops not enough spikey scary bits on them


Actually the battlesuits, the ones you see and broadsides, all count as infantry. In fact tau have no walkers, just skimmer vehicles and infantry, nothing else (unless we count stuff not in the codex, but it's not much more)


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Post by: faeslayer



I'm not a fan of the stompa bits... I was hoping the FW arms would be less weedy. Ah well.

Those new battlesuits are so cool. FW battlesuits are what makes me want to play Tau sometimes, and these are the best so far.


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Post by: Kanluwen


faeslayer wrote:
I'm not a fan of the stompa bits... I was hoping the FW arms would be less weedy. Ah well.

Those new battlesuits are so cool. FW battlesuits are what makes me want to play Tau sometimes, and these are the best so far.

"The first of our Stompa conversion kits".

They've got more coming.


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Post by: Anung Un Rama


And now I'm happy I still haven't build my Stompa yet I bought over a year ago.

I just hope they release the upgrade kits seperatly.


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Post by: jspyd3rx


Are all the guns on the xv9 TL?


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Post by: Kanluwen


According to Shuma, nope. I can't say though as I don't have IA: Apocalypse


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Post by: The Dreadnote


You can mix and match at will, and of course any you take twice becomes twin-linked.


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Post by: ShumaGorath


jspyd3rx wrote:Are all the guns on the xv9 TL?
No. Only the burst canons are twin linked.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
DEATH89 wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:
AesSedai wrote:They look great, thanks for posting!

Burst cannon: Str 5 AP5 6 shot with re-rolls
Polarised ion gun: 18" range Str 6 AP6, assault 6, rending
Fusion cascade: 12" range Str 6 AP1, D6 shots melta
Pulse sub munition rifle: 24" range, STR 5, AP 6 assault 1, 5" blast, no cover saves.

I read this on Tau Tactica a while ago. I wonder which is which.


Those are not the correct gun stats. Burst canons only have three shots, the PHASED ion gun is strength 4 ap4 with 4 shots, and the melta weapon is d3 shots. The submunition round is right though.


Guessing from the way its written that he knows burst cannons are three shot and the suit has 2 sets of twin linked so he wrote it as 6 shots with re-rolls same goes for the fusion weapon i'd say, not a clue on the ion gun tho
You can mix and match guns, so counting them as "together" is disingenuous. Also 2d3 is not the same as 1d6.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
The Dreadnote wrote:You can mix and match at will, and of course any you take twice becomes twin-linked.
Incorrect. You switch a twin linked weapon for one that is not. The twin linked burst canons are base and can be switched to any of the alternatives at cost, but no where does it say that the alternatives are twin linked. It also doesn't state that taking multiples imbues a single twin linked weapon. They all have multi trackers so they can all fire an additional weapon per shooting phase.


This is actually confusing to me as the submunition gun has some sort of giant shield arm. The suits all have two weapons, there is no way to not have two weapons. Why doesn't it have a second gun and what use is the shield arm on a model that can't use the arm? It's obviously the "shield generator" upgrade, but it's on an arm that has to have a gun. The model with the sub rifle is an illegal model.


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Post by: combatmedic


Oh cool, the mek stompa add-ons will help. Iv been trying forever to make a cool looking lifta-droppa.



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Post by: squilverine


Well that Stompa kit has now confirmed my attendance. I must have one!

Sorry I have to go and console my wallet, its hidden itself away in the corner rocking backwards and forwards whilst weeeping softly...


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Post by: Railguns


Or the model with the shield arm could just be the commander version.


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Post by: Scottywan82


Railguns wrote:Or the model with the shield arm could just be the commander version.


Or he could have the awesome upgrade, which allows you to do things you can't normally do.


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Post by: Drake_Marcus


Wow wow wow... those new Tau suits are simply stunning. I'm itching to know just what those guns are supposed to be. I think I see some type of rail gun variant in there.

The stompa is pretty meh for my tastes... I hope the arm we see there isn't supposed to be a lifta-dropa.


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Post by: The Dreadnote


From left to right, phased ion gun, pulse submunitions rifle, fusion cascade.


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Post by: Crablezworth


The 3 new guns are as follows:

Phased Ion Gun 18 inch ST4 AP4 Assault 4, Rending
Fusion Cascade 12 inch ST6 AP1 Assault D3, Melta
Pulse Submunitions Rifle 24 inch ST5 AP6 Assault 1, 5 inch blast, no cover saves



You can replace one or both of the twin linked burst cannons with any of those weapons. Thet're pretty badass.


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Post by: Kanluwen


I'm unaware as to why people keep repeating that information?

What weapons are which and the stats are on the first page. Scroll down(while reading) to the bottom and read the actual entire first page.


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Post by: H.B.M.C.


Kanluwen wrote:I'm unaware as to why people keep repeating that information?


Jesus Kan, weren't you listening?

Phased Ion Gun 18 inch ST4 AP4 Assault 4, Rending
Fusion Cascade 12 inch ST6 AP1 Assault D3, Melta
Pulse Submunitions Rifle 24 inch ST5 AP6 Assault 1, 5 inch blast, no cover saves

The one on the right has the hockey stick, the one in the middle has the ball, and the one on the left is stealing second.

Try to keep up.












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Post by: jspyd3rx


So the xv9 can take two of the same weapons? I can have 3x suits with basically 6 five inch blasts? Also, another unit with six d3 melta shots? That is whole lotta shooting goodness. Things like this would make tau very lethal at higher point games. I am drooling at the thought of maxed out broadsides and xv9's. Wonder how many suits one can squeeze in at 2k? I imagine shield drones for the xv9's would make them very survivable. Now I need to come up with about 350 smakeroonies for nine suits. I am looking at you 'nids.


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Post by: stonefox


Welp, I logged in after ~9 months of inactivity. Saw more FW Tau. I guess I'll play Tau again.

Let's hope they still honor my year-old $250 giftcard.


edit: Huh, guess I need a new banner too. It is no longer d09.


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Post by: ShumaGorath


jspyd3rx wrote:So the xv9 can take two of the same weapons? I can have 3x suits with basically 6 five inch blasts? Also, another unit with six d3 melta shots? That is whole lotta shooting goodness. Things like this would make tau very lethal at higher point games. I am drooling at the thought of maxed out broadsides and xv9's. Wonder how many suits one can squeeze in at 2k? I imagine shield drones for the xv9's would make them very survivable. Now I need to come up with about 350 smakeroonies for nine suits. I am looking at you 'nids.


It seems like the submunition rounds or the basic burst canons are the best configurations for cost. The melta is nice in theory, but the low strength and range makes it incredibly dangerous to use and actually pretty ineffectual.


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Post by: Crablezworth


With 2 of the submunition rifles you're lookin at like 120pts a model and very little ability to deal with armor. Still badass though.


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Post by: Uriels_Flame


I still haven't seen the new pics on their site yet. Do they normally move the newsletter prior to posting on the site?


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Post by: ShumaGorath


Crablezworth wrote:With 2 of the submunition rifles you're lookin at like 120pts a model and very little ability to deal with armor. Still badass though.


True, but the unit's not really an anti armor unit regardless. You're better off using those rail guns or hammerheads. The tau army lacks good methods for dealing with massed infantry at this point, and the sub round or burst canons deal with those nicely.


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Post by: rogueeyes


ShumaGorath wrote:
Crablezworth wrote:With 2 of the submunition rifles you're lookin at like 120pts a model and very little ability to deal with armor. Still badass though.


True, but the unit's not really an anti armor unit regardless. You're better off using those rail guns or hammerheads. The tau army lacks good methods for dealing with massed infantry at this point, and the sub round or burst canons deal with those nicely.


Really? S6AP4 pieplates don't deal with massed infantry? S5AP5 shots everywhere don't deal with infantry? Mass marines no. Anything with a 4+ or 5+ save is basically doomed. In 1750 I run 3 pie plates plus lots of other goodness.


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Post by: Uriels_Flame


The "ignoring cover" is the part I'm interested in. Only one HQ item is able to do this from range and it's only 18".


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Post by: insaniak


Kanluwen wrote:
Ketara wrote:GW won't be releasing a new plastic kit then. Not if Forgeworld just made new ones.

These are the XV-9 "Hazard" suits and the new weapon variants we were told about awhile ago. Not the XV-8s. It's still possible we'll see XV-8s redone in the style of the FW ones.


It's also possible (given the short timeframe between Forgeworld releasing the original Piranha and GW deciding to include it in the codex and release a plastic kit for it) that the XV-9s will be included in the codex. Or that they'll jump ahead to XV-10's or somesuch.


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Post by: ShumaGorath


rogueeyes wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:
Crablezworth wrote:With 2 of the submunition rifles you're lookin at like 120pts a model and very little ability to deal with armor. Still badass though.


True, but the unit's not really an anti armor unit regardless. You're better off using those rail guns or hammerheads. The tau army lacks good methods for dealing with massed infantry at this point, and the sub round or burst canons deal with those nicely.


Really? S6AP4 pieplates don't deal with massed infantry? S5AP5 shots everywhere don't deal with infantry? Mass marines no. Anything with a 4+ or 5+ save is basically doomed. In 1750 I run 3 pie plates plus lots of other goodness.


Currently tau have a big issue bringing those good gun stats to bear. Taking firewarriors out of their transport is almost suicide as you need those to score, and if the crisis suits aren't bringing plasma, missiles, or fusion, then you lack for the ability to deal with transports or good armor saves. The hammerhead is a good all-rounder but isn't something you can really take in effectively large numbers. Three st6 ap4 pie plates isn't really the kind of output you need these days, and three hammerheads also means no broadsides, so no concentrated anti vehicle firepower. They can do anti infantry, but it's a hard request for tau to fulfill.


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insaniak wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Ketara wrote:GW won't be releasing a new plastic kit then. Not if Forgeworld just made new ones.

These are the XV-9 "Hazard" suits and the new weapon variants we were told about awhile ago. Not the XV-8s. It's still possible we'll see XV-8s redone in the style of the FW ones.


It's also possible (given the short timeframe between Forgeworld releasing the original Piranha and GW deciding to include it in the codex and release a plastic kit for it) that the XV-9s will be included in the codex. Or that they'll jump ahead to XV-10's or somesuch.


It would be a slap in the face if they weren't included in the codex. There's nothing "apocalypse" about the unit. Its one of the few datasheets I've yet seen that really has a strong place in the main book. If IG gets ICBMs and the tyranids get trygons tau should at least get XV9s.


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Post by: jspyd3rx


Amen Shuma. These xv9's fill and incredible need in the tau list. It allows one to focus other units for antivehicle. 6 splitfire broadsides and a hammerhead can concentrate on tanks, then xv9's can deepstrike and mop up troops. Throw some drones on them so they can auto break from melée and then fire next turn. They could even hit TH/SS and make it hurt. I guess the trick is what is the best optimal loadout? Gonna order the book first I guess before spending money, after all I still want to win.


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Post by: Crablezworth


I'd be awesome if they sold the weapons arms seperately, at least that way you could magnetize them so you can take advantage of all the options.

I gotta agree though, these really do help plug a whole in the tau empire codex. I love how they're fast attack choices too, they're not competing with other important choices.


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Post by: Tau Battlesuit


this Is AWESOME!! I want all of these but I only use games workshop rules in a codex. I could use these a lot and I want these for a new tau codex.


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Post by: ShumaGorath


Tau Battlesuit wrote:this Is AWESOME!! I want all of these but I only use games workshop rules in a codex. I could use these a lot and I want these for a new tau codex.


Games workshop owns forgeworld. These are games workshop rules.


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Post by: cerebaton


Tau Battlesuit wrote:I only use games workshop rules in a codex.


I don't think that's really his point, Shuma.


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Post by: Dysartes


The dude with a shield is a special Shas'o, according to the tag at the FW Open Day.


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Post by: Gannon


Meh I don't care about the suits, but those stompa conversions, that's the sauce right there!


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Post by: Chamleoneyes


Sigh, being that I already own 20+ of the orginal GW XV-8 I don't really want to replace them all with these new suits. Having said that, I really like the new suits. All the new parts/weapons/bits should add lots of potential for very unique battle suit commanders.

i realize the XV-9's are a 'Fast' in the FOC, but I think they would look a little weird next to the old GW plastic suits if feilded in the same force.


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Post by: JohnHwangDD


Chamleoneyes wrote:i realize the XV-9's are a 'Fast' in the FOC, but I think they would look a little weird next to the old GW plastic suits if feilded in the same force.

Why? The old ones are Heavy / Elite, and these are Fast. It's like wondering why the US Air Force has A-10's as Heavy, F-23s as Elite, and F-16s as Fast. Similar units with forward cockpit, dual wings, vert & horiz stabs, but different look for different roles.


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Post by: Uriels_Flame


They are on 40mm bases too, iirc.


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Post by: Grot 6


Is there a way to twin link that stompa gun when you put that Klaw on as well as the lifta droppa? DAKKA DAKKA!!!!!

On a funnier note, The Deff Dredd costs 50 bucks here, and the Stompa costs 100. Wonder whos getting shafted?


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Post by: ShumaGorath


Chamleoneyes wrote:Sigh, being that I already own 20+ of the orginal GW XV-8 I don't really want to replace them all with these new suits. Having said that, I really like the new suits. All the new parts/weapons/bits should add lots of potential for very unique battle suit commanders.

i realize the XV-9's are a 'Fast' in the FOC, but I think they would look a little weird next to the old GW plastic suits if feilded in the same force.


I think you misunderstand the scale of the suits. They're roughly 50% taller and considerably wider. They're comparably sized to a space marine dreadnaght though they lack the sheer bulk. These are not crisis suit replacements.


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Post by: shas'o vera


Dysartes wrote:The dude with a shield is a special Shas'o, according to the tag at the FW Open Day.


Shas'o R'alai ?



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Post by: Scottywan82


Shas'o R'alai - Special Rules:

The Shas'o R'alai Factor


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Post by: DEATH89


I wonder what the little drones are in that pic


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Post by: Klawz


DEATH89 wrote:I wonder what the little drones are in that pic
News reporters?


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Post by: shas'o vera


tokugawa wrote:Anime?



*gets the anti-anime launcher, loaded with dakkites*

back........ on....... topic.....






















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Post by: Tau Battlesuit


Yes I was talking about the official codices and not the imperial armour books


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Post by: ShumaGorath


Crablezworth wrote:shas



Thats the first thing I thought of as well.


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Post by: shas'o vera


damn, i have seen the rules for these things and there is only one thing i can say......... goodbye nid's ork's guard and all others, my tau is going to........

FIRE EVERYTHING!!!!


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Scottywan82 wrote:
Railguns wrote:Or the model with the shield arm could just be the commander version.


Or he could have the awesome upgrade, which allows you to do things you can't normally do.


i bet the rule is:

pure awesome: this battlesuit gets this for being pure awesome.


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Post by: Kanluwen


As an update(since I don't feel like going through my normal hooplah of copy/pasting an entire newsletter):

#234 just hit. The stuff previewed in 233 is going up for order, along with the new weathering powders.

It's on the FW site. Have fun.


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Post by: Scottywan82


Wait, the stuff in 233 went up? don't you mean 232?

I don't see XV-9, or SW transfers.


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Post by: BrookM


Raven Guard Rhino, Land Raider, and Terminator Land Raider Doors, Elysian passengers, Elysian Tauros Assault Vehicle and eight new powders.


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Post by: Kanluwen


Yeah, I should have said it better.
Thanks Brook.


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Post by: bubber


£30 for a tiny little 4x4 is a bit much even from FW (unless it's for 3)


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which i just check & isn't :(


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Post by: Kanluwen


It's the same price as a high end kit from Tamiya or Haesagawa.

I see no problem.


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Post by: BrookM


I just ordered two, here's hoping I can get them before my birthday.


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Post by: Scottywan82


Kanluwen wrote:Yeah, I should have said it better.
Thanks Brook.


I was just making sure. I really want to buy those puppy transfers.


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Post by: Kanluwen


I'm debating on them myself. Some good "Wolf" iconography wouldn't go wrong for some Sentinels if I go with the background I'm thinking I will.


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Post by: Scottywan82


I want the Great Wolf Decals. I think I'll sell the rest.

Maybe I'll do some sea wolves too, honestly...


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Post by: Alpharius


Raven Guard goodness!

I must resist... until ALL the RG stuff is available...


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Post by: sonofruss


Give in to your like of the rg stuff alpharius and buy it


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Post by: Tau Battlesuit


I want those suits! this screams to be in our new codex!


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Post by: LunaHound


Tau Battlesuit wrote:I want those suits! this screams to be in our new codex!

Where did you get those animated Tau gifs from in your siggy? o_O


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Post by: Kroothawk


Well there is a small collection here http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/TheSteelPanther/Tau%20Pixel%20Art/
but I once had a link to a greater collection including the Sa'cea scheme, but lost it by a harddrive crash.

Edit: Saved that art and could google the file name. Here the original website:
http://herocomplex.info/WH40K/


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Post by: ghosty


damn, why is there no win tyranid kits?

stoopid fail tau, stealing all our jobs...

*dig dig*