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What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 13:35:45


Post by: Henners91


Do you support the noble intentions of the Tau?

Do you owe your loyalty to the species and its survival and thus the Imperium?

Or are you some nihilistic cretin who thinks the extermination of life under the Necrons is sweet?

Post replies and reasons!

Personally I'm an Imperial guy, for the reason stated above, the human species should go down fighting!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 13:45:23


Post by: Colossal Donkey


Cretin here!

Have to say the Necron idea of harvesting all life in the galaxy is pretty dark, but utterly awesome. Probably find that life isn't completely destroyed, just kept in check. Worlds turned into farms essentially ending all war. So people could probably live in blissful denial before some star god chooses your world for his next snack. Plus, in the current Necron codex some kind of mind manipulation is used (or hinted at being used, may just be madness) on the people, so they believe that all is well and good even as they are about to be processed.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 13:52:57


Post by: Tortoiseer


I'm spilt between the eldar and the imperium. I really respect the dream upon which the emperor founded the imperium on, but its undeniable that they've drifted pretty far from that ideal. Still they still have a shot at it eventually so I can't turn my back on the humies.
Stuck up or no, the eldar are really just trying to survive and prevent humanity from making the same mistakes they did. So really I can root for both them and the imperium.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 14:08:38


Post by: tiberius183


The Imperium is awesome and all, but the thing is pretty much ALL the fluff is about them. I would like to see some xenos races get more time in the spotlight.

As for a specific race I'm rooting for, I'd say Tau. Tau have an interesting history, and they do have a decent amount of fluff, but I'd like more (especially about Farsight).

I really would like the Black Library to write books from the perspective of other races (Fire Warrior doesn't count because that book sucked)

Seriously, what Ork player wouldn't want to read a book about a group of boyz and their antics? Or, an Eldar book about political intrigue and backstabbery ala Vampire: The Masquerade? Or, a Fire Warrior's Uplifting Primer?


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 15:16:00


Post by: Storm Lord


For some odd reason I find myself rooting for the Orks in the fluff.

Maybe its there never say die attitude, the fact they're green or because they have no greater plan in life than hitting things really hard!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 18:17:26


Post by: 4M2A


Tau. Aside from the imperium killing everyone else, they are the only chance of peace for the galaxy.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 18:22:33


Post by: Soladrin


I support the Ork's way of life (that's all they have as goals go for Orks)

If aiming for a specific goal... probably Imperium.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 18:31:50


Post by: IvanTih


I'm no motherfu**** unlike the Jake Sullly so I would fall in the defence of the Imperium.
Otherwise I would rather be a mercenary who serves anybody.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 18:46:05


Post by: combatmedic


The Dark Angels back story has always been a personal favorite. Though if they complete their quest, what then? Will they jut start being another space marine chapter? Its almost come to that now with the last of hunt the fallen rules and their main target gone from the chaos codex.



What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 18:51:03


Post by: Fifty


Weeeell... Eldar or pre-Heresy Imperium.

But like someone else, you gotta love the Orks. I'd hate to see them competely annihilated.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 18:57:02


Post by: tiekwando


I generally go for the imperium, if only because in the end that means my necrons (well c'tan) and daemons will have more to feed on!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 19:16:47


Post by: Anavrin


Well, I'm pretty hungry, so Imma have to go with Tyranids. Om nom nom.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 20:18:46


Post by: Shadowbrand


I dont want to win a war, I don't want to be a saviour. I just want to set the Galaxy on fething fire.

Chaos.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 20:26:37


Post by: brickhouse


Has got to be the Imperium. As much as i would enjoy watching the galaxy crumble under all the other xeno scum, the heroic triumph of mankind allways wins out


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 21:17:39


Post by: Retribution


Tau / Pre-heresy Imperium; but lets be real, the only race that ever wins in the fluff is the Imperium so there's no need to worry


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 22:00:58


Post by: Saintspirit


Thoug I am primary chaos player, I am on the Eldar side. They really know what's going on. They will always make sure no one attacks them... Even if it takes killing alot of other guys


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 22:18:27


Post by: TherVadam


Go Nids! Although honestly, I quite like all the races... except Chaos. After the Horus Heresy, I can no longer love them.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 22:19:33


Post by: Durandal


Space Wolves, because a universe run by beer drinking space vikings is awesome.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 22:53:34


Post by: Corporal Redshirt


I'm an Imperial through and through, just need to bide our time until the Illuminati can acheive its goals then huzzah! Don't mind dying to da Orks though so long as its against da biggest of da orks den ma beakie boyoz can blow up da planet from orbit!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 22:53:43


Post by: Fafnir


The more radical ends of the Inquisition would get my vote. Destroy the Imperium to save it, all whilst embracing newty--psykers as the natural evolution of human kind.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 23:00:22


Post by: Krellnus


Sqauts, nuff said.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 23:04:28


Post by: spamandchips


For me the idea of viking space kings kicking ass ans saving evryone is pretty awesome but the inevitable victory by the nids in my mind makes me sway towards them.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 23:44:40


Post by: MinMax


Marbo.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/09 23:51:26


Post by: Lemming eater


If humanity won and sorted out well almost every thing about the way they lived then that would be great but if that's to much to ask for then I think that the necrons wouldn't be so bad ever thing would be nice and peaceful...... until a C'tan decided he was a bit hungry and stopped of for a visit at your planet but everybody has to die some time.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 00:27:25


Post by: MekanobSamael


Orks. Hands down. Specifically, Wazdakka Gutsmek and his plan for the warp highway. Being able to motorcycle across the galaxy = AWESOME!!!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 02:12:21


Post by: Cheese Elemental


The Imperium. Seriously, I'd rather serve a fanatically religious and utterly ruthless galaxy-spanning empire than a bunch of brainwashing, human-sterilising Space Koreans.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 02:19:06


Post by: radiohazard


Heresy Era, Eldar or Nids.

Nids because they are the biggest threat to the galaxy and every other faction knows it.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 02:31:49


Post by: Zed


Chaos Space Marines, because the obsession with destroying the galaxy in the name of the Dark Gods is awesome. However, you have to give credit to the imperial guard, just for trying to hold out against pretty much everything.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 02:38:47


Post by: Inquisitor Lord Bane


I'm an imperial player, and as much as I'd love to see them win, I gotta say "Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, and if we die we die fightin so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"

Who can argue with that?


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 04:55:35


Post by: Orkeosaurus


Rebel grots. Fight da powa!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 04:59:17


Post by: Emperors Faithful


Imperium all the way. I am expecting a sort of loose alliance between the Imperium, the Eldar and the Grot Rebellion to occur sometime this millenium.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 08:32:37


Post by: sniperjolly


Gottago with the species. Humanity Undevided FTW!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 08:40:34


Post by: Shatter.proof


I personally think that eventually the hive fleets are going to evolve past the technologies of the galaxy and eventually leave it a baron rock field and move on.

The only things I can really see stopping that would be maybe unifying all the chapters of space marines to one banner (yet hundreds of boarder and hot zones would be over run or converted to other species)

Or maybe some super boss uniting the green skins under one waaaagh banner and then just taking over the galaxy with their waaaagh magic.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 12:33:43


Post by: Morgrim


Fafnir wrote:The more radical ends of the Inquisition would get my vote. Destroy the Imperium to save it, all whilst embracing newty--psykers as the natural evolution of human kind.

I do like this one. But I hold a fondness for my own dark eldar.

"The jungle creed is the strongest feed on any prey it can."

They're predators that take joy in the hunt. They are utterly ruthless in pursuit of their own survival. There is no such thing as an incompetent general in dark elder kabals: you can't prove your skills exceed your rivals' then you die. Their technology is odd but advanced (needles that make the target's bloodstream explode cannot be easy to make) and unlike their craftworld cousins they aren't going extinct but expanding. No other race has found a way of protecting themselves from the galaxy at large. And from the point of view of the galaxy at large they are debatedly the second more benign race after the tau. Maybe third after the craftworld eldar. Sure, there is no way you want to be captured by them. But on a broader scale they are raiders. Fast ambush predators. They might wipe out a hive city but that means nothing on the scale of the Imperium. They are never going to conquer the galaxy and I don't think they want to.

People keep thinking they're just kinky torturers. :(


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 13:23:05


Post by: Shaman


Chaos.. But you soon realize they are only there to be knocked down by Shouty Evil that is loyalist space marines..

So Chaos.. But often I betray the Chaos faction if

1 its obvious they will fail miserably.. or

2 on the off chance that the imperial perspective is more compelling.



What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 19:41:02


Post by: Snikkyd


Even though I play Imperial armies most of the time, I have to go with Orks, since they were my first and favorite army.


They're the most successful race. They've already completed their goal, and are the only race that can never truly be defeated. Eldar, Imperium, Tau, they'll all fall eventually, but the Orks will never die!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/10 19:45:21


Post by: Gorskar.da.Lost


Orks, of course. Kick seven shades of hell out of everything they meet, and have a damn good time doing it!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/11 03:20:33


Post by: JSK-Fox


Personally, I am rooting for a very strange, strange thing to 40k...

Death to all. Perhaps some uber-explosion, or some epic fight, but I want death to all people.

Other than that, I am rooting for the Imperium. Huzzah!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/11 11:44:22


Post by: Little lord Fauntleroy


Shadowbrand wrote:I dont want to win a war, I don't want to be a saviour. I just want to set the Galaxy on fething fire.


This man...has my respect...

Anyway, I suppose in all reality I'm on the (and this may sound odd) Daemon's "side". Because in a galaxy where preety much everything wants you dead, I find the prospect of being killed by a reflection of your darker side quite comforting, and actually rather funny. And I still don't see why people think the Tau are noble.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/11 14:21:36


Post by: KingCracker


Orks.

The biggest baddest one is the boss, and kicking ass from sun up to sun down. Unless your a speed freak. Then its riding around as fast as possible, kicking ass from sun up to sun down.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/11 15:09:48


Post by: InquisitiveInquisition


The Fate of the galaxy will probably be decided (IMNSHO) by a star-spanning battle of the 'crons fighting the 'nids, obviously because they have the most fluffy destreuctive potential (Also IMNSHO). Of those two, I'd probably choose Necrons.
Robots and Star Gods>Bugs and Biomass


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/11 18:02:18


Post by: Distortionist


I'm rooting on the Alpha Legion, provided they're a 'reverse mole.'


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/12 13:23:34


Post by: MassDriver


I'm tempted to say the Imperium, especially the guard. You have to have some serious balls to take on the whole galaxy with naff weapons and WW1 attrtion tactics.

But really it's got to be the orks, green hard as nails space cockneys armed with axes, homebrew and a total disregard for their or anyone elses safety.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/12 23:03:45


Post by: pops101


tau because they are the only rational race in the universe


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/12 23:10:59


Post by: Orkeosaurus


They obey every word a secretive ruling class says because they smell good.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/12 23:47:43


Post by: Morgrim


That and rationality aren't mutually exclusive.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 02:07:32


Post by: Distortionist


Altruism (for the greater good!) and reason don't go together, but then again, 'reason' may be different for aliens than for humans.

They're more of a totalitarian society.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 02:14:00


Post by: Lethargic Ulfur


Durandal wrote:Space Wolves, because a universe run by beer drinking space vikings is awesome.

I would have to go Imperium as well. Specifically SW, simply because they seem to treat people better than the Imperium at large. The 1st war for Armageddon anyone?


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 02:14:46


Post by: eldarbgamer13


Eldar could pwn everything if they could get their empire started again. (unlikely though)


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 03:58:44


Post by: Manchu


Humanity survives through dominance.

Dominance is achieved through intolerance.

Purge the mutant.

Burn the heretic.

Slay the alien.

Praise the Emperor.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 08:44:15


Post by: Lupe


Normally, I would have rooted for the Space Wolves as being the only (comparatively) sane people in the Universe. Or, maybe, the Iron Warriors, because I think they happened to be screwed over by both the Imperium and Horus.
Then the BA Dex happened.

I'm very inclined to root for the NEcrons now, for some reason.

Aside from the inherent "cool factor" of an army of silent metal skeletons that can't really be killed, the said Dex sketches a damned new and interesting side to them.

If the Silent King is any indication of the new background for the race, they definitely get my vote, regardless of their reasons.

Now, we know the Necrons aren't ones to back off from a fight just because they might take losses, so the fact they pretty much left Dante alone implies several possibilities.

1.) the ranking Necron Lords are allowed to keep some of their personality, and the Silent King just displayed a shadow of his formal martial honor - that would make the Necrons more like tragic heroes somehow, at least the ones who maintain some measure of self-awareness

2.) they're just the soulless omnicidal bastards we know and love, but they have all the time in the Galaxy, and they can simply afford to arse around and let victims slip through their fingers. Although this is pretty much standard 'cron practice, the fact that they can pull out of fights they stand a fairly even chance of winning is news to me, and it paints them as far more ruthless than I'd have expected

3.) their endgame wasn't really to extinguish all life, that was just their SOP to achieve their goals, and as soon as the BA stopped being a threat, they refocused their efforts on the task at hand instead. The fact that you have an ancient, mind-bogglingly advanced civilization with a history of wiping out entire systems is scary enough. The fact that they're only doing that to achieve their goals takes it to a whole new level and shrouds them in mystery

4.) The Silent King might simply be an anomaly among the Necrons, or maybe a different faction with a different agenda. Think of most Necrons as armies of the Nightbringer - blunt, straightforward. Then the Silent King would be an agent of the Deciever - cunning, but always avoiding direct action whenever possible.

Personally, I'm leaning towards option 1, but to be damn honest, every other one seems to have a kind of depth that the other factions have somehow lost along the way.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 10:33:02


Post by: Distortionist


Remember the Salamanders Chapter ALSO treats people well (they would never sacrifice civilians for a better position).


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 11:00:47


Post by: The Defenestrator


I think the space wolves slightly edge out the orks for my vote. Both have a fantastic philosophy; when the galaxy's going to hell, might as well enjoy the ride! Only difference is while both love nothing more than a scrap, the space wolves kicked it up a notch by always going out like a badass, at least *try* to be an ok guy in the process, and after a big fight always throw an equally big party.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 11:17:14


Post by: Lupe


The Defenestrator wrote:and after a big fight always throw an equally big party.


I don't even think the Orks have different words for "fight" and "party"


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 11:20:08


Post by: children of filth


chaos, they belived they were right, and still do, they're fighting the same war they started 10,000 years ago to throw down the man they think betrayed them.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 15:56:13


Post by: Tyyr


The Sisters of Battle.

I don't care about the Imperium, humanity, or human decency. I just support the nuns with guns and their right to have slumber parties and communal showers.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 16:06:25


Post by: Grey Templar


I am voting for the Grimdark.

In the nightmare of the far future there is only war and grimdark, and, no matter what happens the Grimdark always wins




Impierium all the way, but seriously the grimdark wins.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 20:15:32


Post by: ductvader


I really believe that in the end...either Necrons or Tyranids will win out.

Though Eldar appear to have a master plan for everything.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 20:18:31


Post by: Trilobite


It's just gotta be the Nids, the way Chaos and the Imperium keep going at each other just pales into the insignificance of a playground tantrum when you realise the true strength and numbers of the fully massed Nid fleets that have come, and the untold hugeness of that which is still arriving.
Orks are also pretty cool due to the fact that they are the only really honest, straight up race in the universe. Less evil, more just up for a good fist-fight to burn off some steam.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/13 20:46:15


Post by: Huffy


Sorry. . . but I need to go with my heart. . . ORKZ ARE DA BEST


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/15 13:33:30


Post by: Space_Potato


WWAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!!11!11!!1!!!!!ONE!!!

Despite this, i'm rooting imperium. Vive la Imperium!

If they die out though, i'm going straight to greenskins

S_P


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/15 15:01:48


Post by: ductvader


Greenskins aren't outlasting bugs though.

And technically nobody beats chaos...but chaos is never going to take over.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
But if any kind of Marines are going to win...It's going to be Templar due to the sheer amount of them.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/15 21:56:46


Post by: BeRzErKeR


Except that even if the Tyranids wipe out the whole galaxy, the orks still win.

Remember the fluff in the BBB, about the probe sent out from Mars around the time of the Horus Heresy? That's been going for 10,000 years and is STILL picking up signals, in distant galaxies, identified as Orkish?

Yep. That's right. The universe belongs to the greenskins.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/15 22:13:21


Post by: UppityGrot


Da orks!!
Why? Because they're the only race getting any joy out of life. And once they Galaxy is mostly populated by orks there would still be war but hey they don't care "cus' they died fightin"
For example the what are all the humans going to do after they beat chaos? Sure they hate them but don't have any other reasons to live except a dead emperor and the Tau are going to expanding because it's never enough. Its all misery, obsession, and hate. But orks their means is also their end and they enjoy every minute of it.

Waaagh!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/15 22:52:43


Post by: ductvader


UppityGrot wrote:Da orks!!
Why? Because they're the only race getting any joy out of life. And once they Galaxy is mostly populated by orks there would still be war but hey they don't care "cus' they died fightin"
For example the what are all the humans going to do after they beat chaos? Sure they hate them but don't have any other reasons to live except a dead emperor and the Tau are going to expanding because it's never enough. Its all misery, obsession, and hate. But orks their means is also their end and they enjoy every minute of it.

Waaagh!


Sounds like space wolves...


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/15 23:01:07


Post by: sc0ttfree


im rooting for the guardsman and that sorta moderate imperial places. like that BL novel fifteen hours (it was actually pretty good) where it follows a guard recruit for a day.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/15 23:07:09


Post by: sugna the repairible


Freedom though CHAOS!
I do not like the dark gods, but I hate the Imperium!
It burned Roman catholoisum!
Maybe, on the other hand
Soul Drinkers!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/15 23:21:27


Post by: Happygrunt


Humanity as a whole. Nuff said.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/15 23:45:50


Post by: Mr-_-Flidd


The Chaos Gods.

Because Slaanesh whispers sweet and vile things to me in my dreams. I wake up sticky!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/16 05:25:05


Post by: Owain


I tend to root for The Emprah.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/23 22:26:02


Post by: 1337m45747r0y


FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!!!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/23 22:54:19


Post by: cadbren


I'm rooting for my descendants.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/24 01:27:21


Post by: UrbanCowboy


Root for: Mankind, specifically the end to the age of Imperium with the reemergence of the emperor and so forth. Let the rape then ensue.
Know should actually win: Tyranids have everything owned. If you lose, they process you into strength. They evolve ridiculously fast. Are single minded. I may be wrong here, but I would not be surprised if they even raped chaos. GASP! hear me out. If they cleanse the galaxy, no more worship or war=no enfeeblement of the chaos gods. Then take into effect the idea of the shadow in the warp... Ya I think they have the goods on everyone. Even if every one united against them RIGHT NOW, they still would be out numbered, out evolved, and out smarted. I mean how do you mess with something designed purely to kill? They say marines are made for that but... they are humans beefed up in an effort to make them the ultimate killing machines. Nids work from the ground up. Much more functional and efficient.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/24 02:03:49


Post by: ShadowAngel159


Let the galaxy burn!
Need I say more?


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/24 03:17:11


Post by: Darth Bob


One thing I like about the 40k universe is that there's no "good" factions. Alsmost every faction is "evil" in their own way. I'm not big on "evil agendas", which is why I'm rooting for the Tyranids.

The Tyranids are the only race in 40k without actions based out of some emotion or malicious agenda. Even the Necrons are driven by the cruel will of the C'tan. They aren't evil, they're just driven by an insatiable will to feed. I think it's their neutrality and total lack of a motive that makes them seem to me at least, to be the best race to root for.

They're about as close to "good guys" in 40k as you get (IMO).


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/24 04:10:46


Post by: Snikkyd


Darth Bob wrote:One thing I like about the 40k universe is that there's no "good" factions. Alsmost every faction is "evil" in their own way. I'm not big on "evil agendas", which is why I'm rooting for the Tyranids.

The Tyranids are the only race in 40k without actions based out of some emotion or malicious agenda. Even the Necrons are driven by the cruel will of the C'tan. They aren't evil, they're just driven by an insatiable will to feed. I think it's their neutrality and total lack of a motive that makes them seem to me at least, to be the best race to root for.

They're about as close to "good guys" in 40k as you get (IMO).


Yeah, but the Orks are also driven by their instinct to fight. So technically they have no evil intentions, unless you count killing people which you probably aren't since tyranids do that too.

I think both the Tyranids and Orks have no concept of good and evil.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/24 06:02:37


Post by: Necroman


I want either the Imperium or the Tau. Imperium has the most populace (Other than Orks/Tyranids), so watching them fall would be sad.

The Tau from what I can tell have a higher standard of living, but they are tiny and have yet to go through the experiences of larger races. Hence, a galaxy run by them could be unstable, even if trade would probably flourish.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/24 06:20:33


Post by: Corvus


Necrons. The rest of the galaxy is filled with total D-bags. Also it would make us Necron players who are tired of watching their beloved army languish in the bottom tier feel better.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/24 06:23:43


Post by: Necroman


Corvus wrote:Necrons. The rest of the galaxy is filled with total D-bags. Also it would make us Necron players who are tired of watching their beloved army languish in the bottom tier feel better.


It would also mean more Necron models... Hey, without Space Marines, GW will need another poster child!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/24 06:58:55


Post by: Blitza da warboy


i vote for grandpa nurgle. I mean just the name grandpa nurgle! he seems really nice even though he is a filthy rotting flesh who makes deseases for poor beings, but if you are on his side, he will be very nice to you well thats (sort of) what the fluff says


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/24 17:47:57


Post by: MekanobSamael


UrbanCowboy wrote:Know should actually win: Tyranids have everything owned.

What if you have no biomass to be harvested? Like for example if you cleaned all of it off your planets millions of years ago?





What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/24 18:18:46


Post by: TheStomach44


My vote goes to Man. Nids may be huge but they have troubles thinking for themselves with all that Hive Mind business. One mind can only concieve one plan. Humans can come up with billions of plans. 1 of those plans has to ensure a victory for the species somewhere down the line


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/24 18:57:29


Post by: crazypsyko666


I was going to say Eldar, but then I remembered that they were enormous dicks. Grey Knights, FTW!


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/24 20:18:58


Post by: TBD


I am not sure why some people think the Space Wolves are so noble. Well, maybe because their codex depicts them as such, or at least somewhat tries too, but there is much more background than just the codex.

If you read some of the Heresy novels you clearly get the message that they are enormous douchebags to anyone but their own chapter and the Emperor, being his lapdogs who, once unleashed at a target, just kill and destroy everything and ask questions later. Who cares if they unnecessarily destroy the cultural heritage and knowledge of a world, or if they take out countless civilians if that is the shortest way to their (military) opponents? Sure it is not the Space Wolves. "Befehl ist befehl". They view everything black & white and their minds are too easily manipulated.

Either something is good or something is evil. That is not a mentality I personally root for.

Granted I have not read any of the more present Space Wolves novels (yet), so maybe their philosophies and stances changed for the better since the Heresy. In that case I might change my opinion.

The most righteous Space Marine chapters seem to be the Ultramarines and the Salamanders.

The Imperium of Man in the 40K universe is a place where a lot of "necessary evil" happens in name of survival of mankind, which taints a lot of chapters and factions in all kinds of different ways (including the Emperor himself, with the sacrifice of 1000 souls every day to sustain his form), yet as far as I can tell these two chapters have been able to find the most balance between operating as part of that Imperium's military and all the obligations that come with that, and staying respectful towards all forms of life, including non-threatening non-human life, in the way they accomplish their goals.







What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/25 07:19:54


Post by: Snikkyd


TBD wrote:I am not sure why some people think the Space Wolves are so noble. Well, maybe because their codex depicts them as such, or at least somewhat tries too, but there is much more background than just the codex.

If you read some of the Heresy novels you clearly get the message that they are enormous douchebags to anyone but their own chapter and the Emperor, being his lapdogs who, once unleashed at a target, just kill and destroy everything and ask questions later. Who cares if they unnecessarily destroy the cultural heritage and knowledge of a world, or if they take out countless civilians if that is the shortest way to their (military) opponents? Sure it is not the Space Wolves. "Befehl ist befehl". They view everything black & white and their minds are too easily manipulated.

Either something is good or something is evil. That is not a mentality I personally root for.

Granted I have not read any of the more present Space Wolves novels (yet), so maybe their philosophies and stances changed for the better since the Heresy. In that case I might change my opinion.

The most righteous Space Marine chapters seem to be the Ultramarines and the Salamanders.

The Imperium of Man in the 40K universe is a place where a lot of "necessary evil" happens in name of survival of mankind, which taints a lot of chapters and factions in all kinds of different ways (including the Emperor himself, with the sacrifice of 1000 souls every day to sustain his form), yet as far as I can tell these two chapters have been able to find the most balance between operating as part of that Imperium's military and all the obligations that come with that, and staying respectful towards all forms of life, including non-threatening non-human life, in the way they accomplish their goals.






Yeah, now compare the SW to other chapters and the Inquisition. In the codex there are several accounts of them refusing to kill civilians. Like the First War for Armegeddon, where the civilians were killed to prevent the spread of Chaos, the SW objected to this. I doubt Calgar would have been as enraged over it as Logan was.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/25 07:44:07


Post by: DA's Forever


Rooting for Cyhper... Whatever his intentions may be.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/25 09:08:29


Post by: UrbanCowboy


As to Good vs Evil
The whole, there are no good guys, argument is rather... ambiguous. The first thing to ask is what it 'good' and what it 'bad'. If there is no such thing in your mind in the first place then how could fictional universe have any such thing?

As for me, good is to reject the baser nature of oneself, have elements of integrity, honor, a moral code you keep, a positive intentions, exercising self control, selflessness, and compassion. You need not have all of these to be more or less good (no one is perfect) Bad would be a lacking of or opposite to the listed elements. With this in mind...

If you look at most factions, you can generally divide them up into the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Good
Grey Knights
Sisters of Battle
Craftworld Eldar
Most SM chapters
The average guardsman
the bulk of the tau

The Bad
Chaos.
Dark Eldar
Majority of the Inquisition
Many SM chapters
Most of the imperial hierarchy and bureaucracy.
Necrons/C'tan
Tau Ethereal Caste

The Ugly-neutral-forces of nature
Tyranids
Orkz

It is all a matter of relativity, but there are good elements, although they are not disney style simple good. Take the Blood angels for example. They have the red thirst and black rage. The flaw. Thus they are doomed to go insane... violently and bloodthirstily insane. Yet they also cling to sanguinius' vision of a better future for mankind, to their honor, to beauty, and basically to their good side despite the great propensity to do evil that they have. They resist and hold back the flaw day by day. It is easy for something that is inherently good to be good, but something so deeply flawed, doomed, and with a huge urge and nature to do very nasty evil things, that fights that nature every day in order to fufill a code of honor and duty and in many cases to make things better where they can... that is true nobility and goodness.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/25 09:18:26


Post by: InventionThirteen


The Sons and Daughters of Commorragh.

Where others go to war for the sake of achieving dominance, protection or the greater expansion of their boundaries, the dark kin go to war for the sole reason to inflict pain and enslave.
They're like nothing else in the galaxy, in the sense that they are capable of a conscience and still choose to bring misery and death to all, including their own kind.

Where others come from vast worlds, aboard vast warships and the like, the dark kin come from the webway, the place that is near unreachable and exists between real space and the warp.
There is no telling when or where they will strike, but when they come, they come for your life and your soul. There is nowhere to hide, they are coming and they will take you.

Death to the imperium of the corpse god Mon-Keigh. Death to the Craftworld cowards, the exodites and the mad. Death to chaos and it's weakness. Death to the Ork inferiority. Death to the hive mind and it's insects.
Death to the Necrontyr and their lack of control. Death to the greater good, the Eldar couldn't find it and neither will you.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/25 16:26:27


Post by: Morgrim


I feel that 'good' is acting according to the greater morals of your society, and 'evil' against it. Killing, torturing and enslaving others is not an evil act within their society, no more than restraining, breeding and slaughtering pigs is to ours. I'm still rooting for DE. They are one of the 'purer' cultures, in most respects; they don't apologise for their actions and rarely waste time justifying it. They do what they must because they can.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/26 21:02:47


Post by: UrbanCowboy


InventionThirteen wrote:The Sons and Daughters of Commorragh.

Where others go to war for the sake of achieving dominance, protection or the greater expansion of their boundaries, the dark kin go to war for the sole reason to inflict pain and enslave.
They're like nothing else in the galaxy, in the sense that they are capable of a conscience and still choose to bring misery and death to all, including their own kind.

Where others come from vast worlds, aboard vast warships and the like, the dark kin come from the webway, the place that is near unreachable and exists between real space and the warp.
There is no telling when or where they will strike, but when they come, they come for your life and your soul. There is nowhere to hide, they are coming and they will take you.

Death to the imperium of the corpse god Mon-Keigh. Death to the Craftworld cowards, the exodites and the mad. Death to chaos and it's weakness. Death to the Ork inferiority. Death to the hive mind and it's insects.
Death to the Necrontyr and their lack of control. Death to the greater good, the Eldar couldn't find it and neither will you.


WRONG. The dark eldar piss their pants at the thought of slaanesh. They take slaves MAINLY to offer their souls instead of their own to slaanesh. They have no protection against him. They may have developed a taste for inflicting pain and some such, but that began for this reason and continues for the same reason. Know what your are talking about before you go on some power trip and act like a DE expert.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/26 21:17:44


Post by: Dr. Cheesesteak


I do not support the Imperium! Brainwashing and enslaving. Although at least the IG aren't genetically enhanced, so they're slightly more acceptable than SM. Inquisition is cool, just b/c of their shadiness.

I do root for:
Orks - previously stated they're having fun and their simple logic is actually quite admirable
Tau - For the Great Good
CSM - don't worship the false god! Plus I like Slaanesh so more specifically EC. But I don't root for Chaos Daemons, b/c, well...they're freaks.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/26 21:20:16


Post by: UrbanCowboy


Dr. Cheesesteak wrote:I do not support the Imperium! Brainwashing and enslaving. Although at least the IG aren't genetically enhanced, so they're slightly more acceptable than SM. Inquisition is cool, just b/c of their shadiness.

I do root for:
Orks - previously stated they're having fun and their simple logic is actually quite admirable
Tau - For the Great Good
CSM - don't worship the false god! Plus I like Slaanesh so more specifically EC. But I don't root for Chaos Daemons, b/c, well...they're freaks.


lol, and the EC arnt?


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/26 21:27:30


Post by: Dr. Cheesesteak


UrbanCowboy wrote:
Dr. Cheesesteak wrote:I do not support the Imperium! Brainwashing and enslaving. Although at least the IG aren't genetically enhanced, so they're slightly more acceptable than SM. Inquisition is cool, just b/c of their shadiness.

I do root for:
Orks - previously stated they're having fun and their simple logic is actually quite admirable
Tau - For the Great Good
CSM - don't worship the false god! Plus I like Slaanesh so more specifically EC. But I don't root for Chaos Daemons, b/c, well...they're freaks.


lol, and the EC arnt?


Well yeah...but they look cooler, i suppose. Really, I'm just a fan of indulgence, pleasure, and lust.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/27 01:54:42


Post by: crazypsyko666


UrbanCowboy wrote:
InventionThirteen wrote:The Sons and Daughters of Commorragh.

Where others go to war for the sake of achieving dominance, protection or the greater expansion of their boundaries, the dark kin go to war for the sole reason to inflict pain and enslave.
They're like nothing else in the galaxy, in the sense that they are capable of a conscience and still choose to bring misery and death to all, including their own kind.

Where others come from vast worlds, aboard vast warships and the like, the dark kin come from the webway, the place that is near unreachable and exists between real space and the warp.
There is no telling when or where they will strike, but when they come, they come for your life and your soul. There is nowhere to hide, they are coming and they will take you.

Death to the imperium of the corpse god Mon-Keigh. Death to the Craftworld cowards, the exodites and the mad. Death to chaos and it's weakness. Death to the Ork inferiority. Death to the hive mind and it's insects.
Death to the Necrontyr and their lack of control. Death to the greater good, the Eldar couldn't find it and neither will you.


WRONG. The dark eldar piss their pants at the thought of slaanesh. They take slaves MAINLY to offer their souls instead of their own to slaanesh. They have no protection against him. They may have developed a taste for inflicting pain and some such, but that began for this reason and continues for the same reason. Know what your are talking about before you go on some power trip and act like a DE expert.
The inflicting pain part probably has to do with them being the final remnants of the pleasure cults that birthed the bitch, not because they're worshipping him/her. It's hilarious, really.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/27 02:04:46


Post by: UrbanCowboy


crazypsyko666 wrote:
UrbanCowboy wrote:
InventionThirteen wrote:The Sons and Daughters of Commorragh.

Where others go to war for the sake of achieving dominance, protection or the greater expansion of their boundaries, the dark kin go to war for the sole reason to inflict pain and enslave.
They're like nothing else in the galaxy, in the sense that they are capable of a conscience and still choose to bring misery and death to all, including their own kind.

Where others come from vast worlds, aboard vast warships and the like, the dark kin come from the webway, the place that is near unreachable and exists between real space and the warp.
There is no telling when or where they will strike, but when they come, they come for your life and your soul. There is nowhere to hide, they are coming and they will take you.

Death to the imperium of the corpse god Mon-Keigh. Death to the Craftworld cowards, the exodites and the mad. Death to chaos and it's weakness. Death to the Ork inferiority. Death to the hive mind and it's insects.
Death to the Necrontyr and their lack of control. Death to the greater good, the Eldar couldn't find it and neither will you.


WRONG. The dark eldar piss their pants at the thought of slaanesh. They take slaves MAINLY to offer their souls instead of their own to slaanesh. They have no protection against him. They may have developed a taste for inflicting pain and some such, but that began for this reason and continues for the same reason. Know what your are talking about before you go on some power trip and act like a DE expert.
The inflicting pain part probably has to do with them being the final remnants of the pleasure cults that birthed the bitch, not because they're worshipping him/her. It's hilarious, really.


I agree, I guess I miscommunicated there. Take cultists and add the need for slaves and you get an evolved desire to inflict pain and to torture, beyond they were even before the fall.


What faction are you all "rooting" for in the fluff? @ 2010/04/27 05:30:29


Post by: InventionThirteen


UrbanCowboy wrote:
crazypsyko666 wrote:
UrbanCowboy wrote:
InventionThirteen wrote:The Sons and Daughters of Commorragh.

Where others go to war for the sake of achieving dominance, protection or the greater expansion of their boundaries, the dark kin go to war for the sole reason to inflict pain and enslave.
They're like nothing else in the galaxy, in the sense that they are capable of a conscience and still choose to bring misery and death to all, including their own kind.

Where others come from vast worlds, aboard vast warships and the like, the dark kin come from the webway, the place that is near unreachable and exists between real space and the warp.
There is no telling when or where they will strike, but when they come, they come for your life and your soul. There is nowhere to hide, they are coming and they will take you.

Death to the imperium of the corpse god Mon-Keigh. Death to the Craftworld cowards, the exodites and the mad. Death to chaos and it's weakness. Death to the Ork inferiority. Death to the hive mind and it's insects.
Death to the Necrontyr and their lack of control. Death to the greater good, the Eldar couldn't find it and neither will you.


WRONG. The dark eldar piss their pants at the thought of slaanesh. They take slaves MAINLY to offer their souls instead of their own to slaanesh. They have no protection against him. They may have developed a taste for inflicting pain and some such, but that began for this reason and continues for the same reason. Know what your are talking about before you go on some power trip and act like a DE expert.
The inflicting pain part probably has to do with them being the final remnants of the pleasure cults that birthed the bitch, not because they're worshipping him/her. It's hilarious, really.


I agree, I guess I miscommunicated there. Take cultists and add the need for slaves and you get an evolved desire to inflict pain and to torture, beyond they were even before the fall.


Thanks captain. I apologize for this lack of wondrous knowledge that you so possess. It's a game...