Am I truly the only one who likes This particular genre on Dakka? It seems "punkish" for lack of a better word or older types of music are the majority's favorite genres.
This thread can be about anything so long as it has something to do with Black Metal.
I guess I will throw in my favorite Albums and a song.
Whoa, whoa. Cheese ain't on Dakka's Most Wanted. Shadowbrand, you have been letting us know about this Norse/Metal/Norwegian thing for a while now, however. I feel like you're a bit stuck. Maybe because you're feeling down and bored? Have you ever listened to Wagner?
Alright, Manowar is sweet, only girly men diss Man of War, but this is not the place for it.
Just had to point that out.
@Manchu Not all black metal is Norwegian and I guess I'm just shallow when it comes to music. Albatross and FITTZ took me around the Punk and Jazz worlds kind of. But I just go back to the kind of music I typically listen too.
I guess I'm just a person who can't change.
I've also noticed I'm abit more... Aggressive then usual.
I'm basically a loner, the only reason I think my band took me in was because I was I guess, the only drummer in town who would play for them. They did let me name the band after something in 40k though...
I used to have a decent handful of friends but then I changed schools.
Also I have this gut feeling the Mods will crush my thread anyways. :/
Shadowbrand wrote:I'm basically a loner, the only reason I think my band took me in was because I was I guess, the only drummer in town who would play for them.
Oh. Well then, I have nothing to say that can make you feel better, I'm afraid. Toodle-pip!
To get back on topic however, I never much understood black metal(or perhaps heavy metal as a whole). I do like to listen to the occasional Hellhammer track though.
Give me Dragonforce or give me...Odin...or failing that Dethklok...(what do mean I don't have any dethklok or odin right now)...Ok...hmm...Hey Disturbed done in Bluegrass
Yeah I know that, acctualy I havent listened to much Black metal since I was in junior high and that was...along time ago, long enough I had to look some of these up just to remember them...Heck most of these bands didn't even exist the last time I listened to real Black Metal, I kinda remember Venom, to be honest when I'm in the mood for the kind of music to inspire nightmares I go for some Dark Bluegass or some realy old Pimitive Mountain Gospil
'corse I'm almost twice your age so most of this stuff is old school and out of date for me, but I do live by The Hive Minds Motto "Evolve, Consume, Evolve"
Cheese Elemental wrote:It's a phase, bro. We all get dark and moody at some point in our teenage years.
Yeah and that phase usually lasts until you die with the odd pleasant spike at a good Christmas or when you find $100 on the road or something. Ask any old guy.
OT - Black Metal is OK, but there is only so much abuse your ears can take. I still enjoy the classic Slayer albums and the Melodic Death Metal out of Sweden, but that heavy, heavy, raspy voice cookie monster stuff is just a bit too much. Although I do like Dimmu Borgir quite a bit.
@Shads - Hey, if you're interested in expanding the types of music you want to listen to, why not try Prog Rock? It's not as a massive a departure from Extreme Metal as say, Jazz. It's also pretty deep musically and thematically, so maybe that would appeal?
I can recommend 'In The Court Of The Crimson King' by King Crimson, and 'Pawn Hearts' By Van Der Graaf Generator as a possible starting point.
^^ - The Arch Enemies are good. I liked their previous singer compared to Angela though (Starbreaker and Aces High are some of the best covers ever. Especially Starbreaker). I'm a bit spoiled as I bought all of their CDs here and they have the bonus tracks.
Mayhem is hilarious in buddy's metal documentary being about 20 beers past bedtime. Immortal...I just can't get down with them. When I see make-up on dudes with long hair I think two things: Cross dresser or KISS.
When I was a teen, I used to listen to numetal and death metal pretty heavily. And I swore its all I would listen to. I still do on occasion, but I just cant stomach most of it anymore. I swear Ive turned into my father, and sometimes that is scary
I was going to post a local black metal band.....but the only song they had on youtube was imo the worst they ever made. Damn now I not a contributer
Ah Black Metal a genre I cannot take seriously to save my life. Despite this, I like some of the 'half genre' Black metal bands, like Summoning or Equilibrium (Bathory I'd also add there aswell). All the same, it's among my least favourite of the metal subgenres.
On a side note, Arch Enemy black metal? Er sorry no. Melodic death for sure.
Oshunai wrote:
On a side note, Arch Enemy black metal? Er sorry no. Melodic death for sure.
Thats another reason I dont really care for the metal category. Everyone is wrong as to what area a band falls in. Its annoying. They arnt this...they are that, like *insert band*
no no no nooooo, *insert band* is nothing like *random category* *insert band* sounds like *insert band* and *insert band* is a strong example of *insert category*
well maybe that would be true if you werent a friggin panzy sisy boi! YEA I SPELLED boy BOI! *insert band* is TOTALLY *insert category*
The bad thing about Black Metal is its general low quality. I love metal, real metal, stuff like Iron Maiden, and while that touches on Black Metal themes, Number of the Beast for example, it does so as part of a broad spectrum of topics covered. Most Black Metal I have encountered bangs the Satan or Pagan drum just to try and stir up religious controversy and appear rebellious to cover a dirth of talent.
It rarely if ever works. Most fundies haven't heard of Black Metal, they dont go to those sorts of concerts and few Black Metal bands make it big enough to draw attention anyway. Those that do such as myself don't care, as we are of different cultures, if we can share our hobby time with Bloodthirsters and not get offended why should Cradle of Filth have anything to rile.
So Black metal keeps on saying the same old stuff and gets ignored, I am yet to find anyone in Black Metal who has much talent, Angela Glossow being the one one I can think of, and she raises attention mainly because she looks different to what you might expect. Frankly most Black Metal is a bit like worn out TV series that add new hot lesbian characters when the plots dry up to stop jumping the shark. If you cannot sing or play the guitar properly enough to do Rock shout something Satanic to whatever riffs you can manage and you have a career in Black Metal.
I used to be in to it, and i still know often talk with a Norwegian Black Metal vocalist/guitarist (Aptorian Demon) and still get in free when he comes over for a concert, but i really only go there for the free beerz he treats me to and because he's completely insane, in a funny way.(met him on UT2k4)
But yea, I grew out of it pretty quickly, seeing Cradle of Filth live at rock am ring (2006 i think) only made this worse and i couldn't keep myself from laughing when they started to play Nymphetamine... but Liv Kristene(which is totally awesome and hot) was replaced with a big fat opera... blimp....thing.....
These days i listen to pretty much anything. I do sometimes listen to black metal every now and then, but that's mostly just nostalgic value and nice guitar work.
I've been stuck on Machinae Supremacy and Machine Head for the last 6 years though...
I was into black metal briefly during my highschool days.
I currently work for an online music gear retailer, so I'm surrounded by fantastic musicians in active gigging bands all day long, and because of this my musical taste has evolved into listening to the subtle details of music vs the overarching theme behind any given band.
A poster above mentioned that he couldnt find any good black metal bands, that they were all terrible musicians, and as much as broad generalizations like these hurt to admit to, I have to agree.
I want to like Black Metal, there are even members from 2 different black metal bands working in the same building as me, but I just can't turn off my ears to the crap black metal bands push through their amps or onto their records.
*shrug* Oh well like what you want. I love it, and at the last concert I went too about 200-400 people showed *This being a small town* It was awesome.
Demogerg wrote:I was into black metal briefly during my highschool days.
I currently work for an online music gear retailer, so I'm surrounded by fantastic musicians in active gigging bands all day long, and because of this my musical taste has evolved into listening to the subtle details of music vs the overarching theme behind any given band.
A poster above mentioned that he couldnt find any good black metal bands, that they were all terrible musicians, and as much as broad generalizations like these hurt to admit to, I have to agree.
I want to like Black Metal, there are even members from 2 different black metal bands working in the same building as me, but I just can't turn off my ears to the crap black metal bands push through their amps or onto their records.
Well look its the smugtroll. Nobody forces you to like it, and what makes a musician good? it depends on the people listing to said music... And waht woul you define as good music? Lady Gaga?
@ Shadowbrand... They are NOT Bm they are soft man metal. But yes that discussion can be fun at times. And yes they are the instrumestns of the blessed lord Slaanesh And yes im a metal head, and darned proud of it!
I prefer melodic death metal, Dethklok FTW! I haven't really listened to black metal much tbh though, just a few songs here and there.
I suppose I should give it more of a try before I make my decision.
I'm not a huge Black Metal fan,I like some of it,Dimmu Borgir in particular,simply becuase they seem a bit more "textured" than the average Black Metal band,and as a "musician",I can appreciate them on a technical leval.
@ Shadow.
Enjoy the music you enjoy my friend,and never let anyone convince you that you have to "grow up" and listen to Barry Manilow & "lite rock",I'm 40 years old and I've been listening to Punk/Oi! since I was 12 (first Ramones album),if you enjoy it...keep listening.
That being said,don't limit yourself...keep an open mind concerning music (and indeed everything),you'll be amazed at how much you find you enjoy.
I just watched a Dimmu Borgir vid on youtube (I take what FITZZ says seriously) and it just made me laugh. Looked like a poor 40k fanfilm. This stuff isn't for everyone. Doesn't mean it's for no one, however.
I think Manchu, you found the newer Dimmu Borgir and the band has basically shot itself in the foot. Now the stuff they did when they still sung in Norwegian owned.
Thanks for the compliment my friend,it's nice to know that I'm taken seriously.
I should however have clarified that my coment concerning Dimmu Borgir was ment that "with in the Black Metal scene,Dimmu Borgir are (IMO) the most musicly advanced (perhaps that isn't even exactly accurate)....more accurately,I play guitar and bass,and becuase of this I can recognize a more "textured" song structer in Dimmu Borgirs music then I can In most other Black Metal...alot of the stuff they play is quite technical/complexed...even if it just sounds like a wall of noise.
It's definitely harder to laugh at a joke told in a language you cannot understand. I don't mean to carry this too far. I can see that if someone doesn't "get" this genre then they probably won't give it much a chance. Whether that's fair or not is kind of beside the point, however.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Fitzz, I'm not very knowledgable about musical technique. I know that some speed metal is quite theoretical, taking its cue from Bach's ideas concerning counterpoint. That stuff seems technically impressive to me (in the same way that a really big explosion is impressive) but I can't get into listening to it.
I can definatley understand where your coming from Manchu,alot of Black Metal just sounds like "GROWLROARGROWL!!!" to me as well,but if I hear somthing that I can appreciate on a musical leval..I'll give it a whirl.
I also think that part of my "understanding" of Black Metal comes from my own love of Punk/Oi...yet another Genre(s) that one either loves or hates...or is totally indiferent about
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Albatross wrote:A suspension bridge is also quite technically impressive. That's just not enough to get me excited.
Oh come on now Alba,you know my taste in music dazzles you.
@FITZZ - True... Hell, I like Yes, ferchrisakes! I appreciate the hell out of musical virtuosity - but for it's own sake?
Nah.
Saying that, I have been known to enjoy Metal - I am rather fond of Meshuggah and Fear Factory for example. I'm not too keen on all that Pagan/satanist caper though. I will give Cradle of Filth SOME credit - they seem to be aware of the slight ridiculousness of the genre they inhabit.
At the end fight scene of the first one, I thought "Ringwraiths." Is that a bad thing? But OT: I like the instrumental parts moreso then the lyrics tbh.
@Shadowbrand A blast from the Dark Ages...realy...then you sould try the band Rondellus and there album Sabbatum, Warpigs in Latin is suprisingly awsome
Automatically Appended Next Post: Hey Shadowbrand I actualy want to thank you for this thread, it has sent me on a journy of rediscovery of my musical past and helped me rediscove several bands I haven't thought about, or even rememberd, since the early '90's, bands such as Primordial, Skyclad, Corvus Corax, Horslips and Winter's Reighn, In fact I'm listing to Dearg Doom right now
Shadowbrand wrote:Don't worry Albatross baby, I still love you too.
I feel left out here, So I guess the things you told me last nigth dosent mather? Anyways I think we all need to go on a hardcore journey true the Norwegian woods.
@ Albatross and Shadowbrand.... you make my blood boil in a good way
I shared a house for a couple of years with a DM bass player and his girlfriend (who was in another band - more hard rock ). I always found the "cookie monster" vocals a little OTT for my own tastes.
That said, I was starting my SFX training at the time (with prosthetics work) and ended up doing some of the makeup and prosthetics for his band and as such, got into their shows free (and their rider), and also got to hang with some other "well known" (well, in the Aussie DM scene - they reunited a few months back for an awards show - Sadistik Execution) band guys.
I do like Dimmu borgir. My current tastes verge more towards the symphonic stuff though.
Just had a moment of pure metal happiness, I got my hands on the first Red Harvest album... And it was signed. So now I am gonna find a frame and hang it on the wall
Awesome, at the metal shop in a town called Kamloops by where I live.
The guy said he saw a interview and the singer from Satyricon has a Burzum demo album, not just any demo album one with euros blood on it.
This was also the day I bought my Mayhem and Burzum shirt as well as a Vindicator and a Dreadnought. That was a happy day.
Shadowbrand wrote:Awesome, at the metal shop in a town called Kamloops by where I live.
The guy said he saw a interview and the singer from Satyricon has a Burzum demo album, not just any demo album one with euros blood on it.
This was also the day I bought my Mayhem and Burzum shirt as well as a Vindicator and a Dreadnought. That was a happy day.
wOOt! lucky man then. and gratzs with the purchase then my lord, today my chaos spwns arrived my hero and another formation of WoC, my army is beginning to look good
@Shadowbrand: A&W Burgers are always amazing...to bad there aren't many left out by me...oh well, to the In & Out...hmm wounder what those are like on pain killers...
@Shadowbrand, wisdom teeth, at your age...ouch...well enjoy vicadin land while you can, 'cuse when you come back there will be sharks...it's always sharks...
Shadowbrand wrote:@Anshal please tell me you got the older looking Slanneshi lord that looks like a naughty police man.
I would also like announce eating A&W burgers while on painkillers is amazing.
AMAZING.
Oh yes indeed he looks VERY naughty man... Want to come and see?? We could always use moar fresh meat here in "un slaanshi Norway"
And those burgers spunds good indeed
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Oshunai wrote:Back on topic...
This is the closest I'll get to Black Metal Shadowbrand. Try this band:
Generally I'm more of a punk guy, but there's significant crossover between crust punk and black metal.
I'm a fan of:
-Bathory (the originals)
-DARKTHRONE (love 'em. New stuff is actually very punk)
-Gorgoroth (interesting sound)
-Mayhem is decent, interesting back story to say the least
-Marduk (best BM band since Darkthrone IMO)
I also like viking metal like Bathory's later stuff and a lot of early death metal like Entombed/Nihilist.
If you like black metal, I'd suggest looking up Blackened Crust. Most obvious example of this is Darkthrone's latest, Circle the Wagons. Amebix is a great band that plays punk with a strong BM influence too.
Mad Rabbit wrote:Generally I'm more of a punk guy, but there's significant crossover between crust punk and black metal.
I'm a fan of:
-Bathory (the originals)
-DARKTHRONE (love 'em. New stuff is actually very punk)
-Gorgoroth (interesting sound)
-Mayhem is decent, interesting back story to say the least
-Marduk (best BM band since Darkthrone IMO)
I also like viking metal like Bathory's later stuff and a lot of early death metal like Entombed/Nihilist.
If you like black metal, I'd suggest looking up Blackened Crust. Most obvious example of this is Darkthrone's latest, Circle the Wagons. Amebix is a great band that plays punk with a strong BM influence too.
This is one of my favorite "crossover" bands from way back in '85....
You may like them as well Shadow.
Its more Death, but I think its dark enough for this thread.
Also i'm pleased to see this thread alive, its nice to see something else then the spammed politics threads and etc.
I have honestly really tried to give a rats ass about whats going on the world. But I'm a emotionally defunct teenager, so headbanging and drinking are all what I care about.
Not Obama and the what the hell is going on the mideast lol or the pope making sweet sweet love to little boys.
Old Fav's now rememberd -Primordial -Corvus Corax -Slough Feg -Cruachan New Fav's now to remember -Alestorm (Pirate Metal ) A group you should check out if you can ever find Them -The Pirates Charels (Not black metal but still quit cool, anyone not only willing to do an acappella version of the 1812 and do it well deserves a look, "A hundred million dead, and this is just the overture")
Shadowbrand wrote:I think tommrow I will look into this "Pirate Metal"
It sounds like a blast in the ass, in a good way.
Yes, Yes it is, I actualy know The Pirates Charles they're fun and from what I can tell they may realy be pirates, I first met them 3 years ago at a Ren Fair in Palm Springs, they came, they sang, the ate all our encampments leftovers, they got kicked out for smugling in some Cat Island Girls (or maby just Rum this is where the storie gets a little confused ) and they even have a Fidle Wentch, she is scary good I haven't seen them in three years...I wounder why
Shadowbrand wrote:I think tommrow I will look into this "Pirate Metal"
It sounds like a blast in the ass, in a good way.
Yes, Yes it is, I actualy know The Pirates Charles they're fun and from what I can tell they may realy be pirates, I first met them 3 years ago at a Ren Fair in Palm Springs, they came, they sang, the ate all our encampments leftovers, they got kicked out for smugling in some Cat Island Girls (or maby just Rum this is where the storie gets a little confused ) and they even have a Fidle Wentch, she is scary good
I haven't seen them in three years...I wounder why
And yes im a metal head, and darned proud of it!
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(or maby just Rum this is where the storie gets a little confused 
) and they even have a Fidle Wentch, she is scary good