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Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 19:43:02


Post by: Frazzled


http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/20/website-warns-south-park-creators-face-retribution-depicting-muhammad/?test=latestnews
'South Park' Creators Could Face Retribution for Depicting Muhammad, Website Warns
By Joshua Rhett Miller
- FOXNews.com

A radical Islamic website is warning the creators of "South Park" that they could face violent retribution for depicting the Prophet Muhammad in a bear suit during an episode broadcast on Comedy Central last week.

RevolutionMuslim.com posted a warning following the 200th episode of Trey Parker and Matt Stone's "South Park," which included a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad disguised in a bear suit.
A radical Islamic website is warning the creators of "South Park" that they could face violent retribution for depicting the Prophet Muhammad in a bear suit during an episode broadcast on Comedy Central last week.

RevolutionMuslim.com posted the warning following the 200th episode of Trey Parker and Matt Stone's "South Park," which included a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad disguised in a bear suit. The Web posting also included a graphic photo of Theo van Gogh, a Dutch filmmaker who was murdered in 2004 after making a documentary on violence against Muslim women.

"We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo Van Gogh for airing this show," the posting reads. "This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them."

Reaching by phone early Tuesday, Abu Talhah al Amrikee, the author of the post, said he wrote the entry to "raise awareness." He said the grisly photograph of van Gogh was meant to "explain the severity" of what Parker and Stone did by mocking Muhammad.

"It's not a threat, but it really is a likely outcome," al Amrikee said, referring to the possibility that Parker and Stone could be murdered for mocking Muhammad. "They're going to be basically on a list in the back of the minds of a large number of Muslims. It's just the reality."

Al Amrikee said the website is considering a protest against the "disgusting" show, which also depicted the Prophet Muhammad in an episode on July 4, 2001.

"This is not a small thing," he said. "We should do whatever we can to make sure it does not happen again."

The posting on RevolutionMuslim.com also includes audio of a sermon by Anwar al-Awlaki -- a radical U.S.-born preacher now believed to be hiding in Yemen -- who discusses assassinating individuals who defame the Prophet Muhammad. It also included a link to a 2009 story in the Huffington Post that gave details of Stone and Parker's mansion in Colorado.

A Comedy Central spokesman told FoxNews.com that the network has no comment on the posting.




Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 19:45:05


Post by: Corpsesarefun


South park offended the muslims? seriously thats not the worst thing they have done

Durhka durhka, muhammed jihad!


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 19:51:20


Post by: Iron_Chaos_Brute


Frazzled wrote:
The posting on RevolutionMuslim.com also includes audio of a sermon by Anwar al-Awlaki -- a radical U.S.-born preacher now believed to be hiding in Yemen -- who discusses assassinating individuals who defame the Prophet Muhammad. It also included a link to a 2009 story in the Huffington Post that gave details of Stone and Parker's mansion in Colorado.

There's an Obama-approved hit out on this guy


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 0033/04/20 19:53:54


Post by: Soladrin


Really?...


God, can't they just blow themselves up and be done with it?

You know it's gone on long enough when even religious violence becomes boring...


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:00:22


Post by: Orkeosaurus


I'm pretty sure Parker and Stone were hoping for this anyhow.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:04:36


Post by: Soladrin


Most likely yea. More incentive? I think so.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:09:46


Post by: metallifan


Really? I mean... Really?

South Park makes fun of Jesus all the time, but do you see Christians screaming bloody murder and making death-threats? Cartman is clearly Anti-Semitic, so should we also be worried that an army of enraged Jews are going to be rolling up to Matt and Trey's studio any day now? I really don't understand why these Muslim radicals always have to jump straight into violence every time someone makes a crack at Allah or Muhammed. Why can't they just settle for sending angry letters and calling them devilspawn? Said plan seems to work for other religions. I say they need to pull the stick out of their collective arse and take it as the innocent locker-room humour that it is.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:12:59


Post by: Soladrin


Because they have a literal rule of "may not be portrayed in any way" and seem to think their religion has might over all humans regardless of who it is.

To bad they are dumb feths.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:16:05


Post by: ShumaGorath


Really? I mean... Really?

South Park makes fun of Jesus all the time, but do you see Christians screaming bloody murder and making death-threats?


They used to get a significant amount of press for threats and hatemail from christian sources, but that cooled over the years. More recently they got the same attention from their scientology episodes.

I really don't understand why these Muslim radicals always have to jump straight into violence every time someone makes a crack at Allah or Muhammed. Why can't they just settle for sending angry letters and calling them devilspawn? Said plan seems to work for other religions. I say they need to pull the stick out of their collective arse and take it as the innocent locker-room humour that it is.


I think you missed the part where you said the word radicals. By definition they aren't going to react to things the old lady way.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:23:50


Post by: metallifan


Soladrin wrote:Because they have a literal rule of "may not be portrayed in any way" and seem to think their religion has might over all humans regardless of who it is.

To bad they are dumb feths.


No kidding. I find it completely comical that Islamic extremists criticize the world for not respecting their religion, and Christians for taking over their lands, when their policy on respecting other religions is "Islam is the only true religion, all others are a lie", and they refuse to realize or accept any state that is not ruled by an Islamic Theocracy.

I've heard some crazy double-standard ideals before, but these extremists take the cake. I have yet to come across another group that contradicts itself even a tenth as much. I'm not even religious and groups like these still offend me by their behavior and mindset.


ShumaGorath wrote:They used to get a significant amount of press for threats and hatemail from christian sources, but that cooled over the years. More recently they got the same attention from their scientology episodes.


I suppose that's true. But to this degree? Not so much, I think.


ShumaGorath wrote:I think you missed the part where you said the word radicals. By definition they aren't going to react to things the old lady way.


Unlike a lot of folks these days, I do see the difference between a Muslim and a Muslim Extremist. Doesn't justify such infantile behavior from these groups though. I would've hoped that by the time a person of faith has reached the age to legally be considered an adult, they would have developed half a brain. I find myself extremely let down by things like this, however.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:28:05


Post by: ShumaGorath


No kidding. I find it completely comical that Islamic extremists criticize the world for not respecting their religion, and Christians for taking over their lands, when their policy on respecting other religions is "Islam is the only true religion, all others are a lie", and they refuse to realize or accept any state that is not ruled by an Islamic Theocracy.

I've heard some crazy double-standard ideals before, but these extremists take the cake. I have yet to come across another group that contradicts itself even a tenth as much. I'm not even religious and groups like these still offend me by their behavior and mindset.


Oh? I would think that any racial supremacist movement would be similarly balking to you. Violent extremism isn't the sole property of islam, and there have been plenty of christians, jews, communists, and good white folk that have done the same. Acting like radical islamists have taken it to a new extreme just shows a bit of a lack of perspective.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:32:33


Post by: Soladrin


Radical Islamists are just in the news to much these days... Can't we get a different war yet?


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:40:15


Post by: Tyyr


They are just now getting pissed at South Park? Apparently they just now tuned in.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:44:44


Post by: Frazzled


Now that I think about it. Why are terrorists watching Infidel TV in the first place? here's a hint to Alqaeda's accounting department. Reality TV and the Playboy channel are not "current events"...


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:46:10


Post by: ShumaGorath


Frazzled wrote:Now that I think about it. Why are terrorists watching Infidel TV in the first place? here's a hint to Alqaeda's accounting department. Reality TV and the Playboy channel are not "current events"...


It's a website forum, not everyone on it's a terrorist. Some are probably just disenfranchised tools, and disenfranchised tools watch tv to get mad. It's the same thing that makes Glen Beck millions.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:49:27


Post by: Frazzled


ShumaGorath wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Now that I think about it. Why are terrorists watching Infidel TV in the first place? here's a hint to Alqaeda's accounting department. Reality TV and the Playboy channel are not "current events"...


It's a website forum, not everyone on it's a terrorist. Some are probably just disenfranchised tools, and disenfranchised tools watch tv to get mad. It's the same thing that makes Glen Beck millions.


Am I only person who remembers when Beck was on the radio doing imitation interviews?


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:52:35


Post by: gorgon


Hate can take you a long way.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:53:04


Post by: metallifan


ShumaGorath wrote:
Oh? I would think that any racial supremacist movement would be similarly balking to you. Violent extremism isn't the sole property of islam, and there have been plenty of christians, jews, communists, and good white folk that have done the same. Acting like radical islamists have taken it to a new extreme just shows a bit of a lack of perspective.



The difference is, I don't believe we should deny them their right to exist, which is more than I can say in regards to their opinions on other religious or ethnic groups. Of course violent extremism has existed throughout history. The Crusades, the Irish civil war, the Holocaust, Soviet persecution of the Ukranian Orthodox Church, the KKK, so on and so forth. In medieval times, when people didn't have the education they do now, when State and Religion were one and the same for most of the world, this wasn't out-of-place. Extremism was a fact of life for most of Europe and the Middle-East. That doesn't make it alright, but that's how it was.

We don't live in the middle ages though. Such behavior has no place anymore. There -are- extremist groups for a wide spectrum of ideals and religions, true. But none seem as easily offended as Islamic extremists. It seems like every little joke or jab against them results in a call for blood. And there's a long list of things that'll cause that call, it would seem. One of them being an adult cartoon that really is impossible to take seriously.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:54:49


Post by: Ahtman


Frazzled wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Now that I think about it. Why are terrorists watching Infidel TV in the first place? here's a hint to Alqaeda's accounting department. Reality TV and the Playboy channel are not "current events"...


It's a website forum, not everyone on it's a terrorist. Some are probably just disenfranchised tools, and disenfranchised tools watch tv to get mad. It's the same thing that makes Glen Beck millions.


Am I only person who remembers when Beck was on the radio doing imitation interviews?


Most of us weren't around when there was only one radio station west of the Mississippi, and just one east of it.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:55:09


Post by: ShumaGorath


metallifan wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:
Oh? I would think that any racial supremacist movement would be similarly balking to you. Violent extremism isn't the sole property of islam, and there have been plenty of christians, jews, communists, and good white folk that have done the same. Acting like radical islamists have taken it to a new extreme just shows a bit of a lack of perspective.



The difference is, I don't believe we should deny them their right to exist, which is more than I can say in regards to their opinions on other religious or ethnic groups. Of course violent extremism has existed throughout history. The Crusades, the Irish civil war, the Holocaust, Soviet persecution of the Ukranian Orthodox Church, the KKK, so on and so forth. In medieval times, when people didn't have the education they do now, when State and Religion were one and the same for most of the world, this wasn't out-of-place. Extremism was a fact of life for most of Europe and the Middle-East. That doesn't make it alright, but that's how it was.

We don't live in the middle ages though. Such behavior has no place anymore. There -are- extremist groups for a wide spectrum of ideals and religions, true. But none seem as easily offended as Islamic extremists. It seems like every little joke or jab against them results in a call for blood. And there's a long list of things that'll cause that call, it would seem, one of them being an adult cartoon that really is impossible to take seriously.


You do realize that a majority of violent islamists come from regions without functioning public education and literacy rates that are similar to those seen in the medieval ages?


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 20:58:17


Post by: Valhallan42nd


Wait, South Park is still on the air?


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:00:37


Post by: metallifan


ShumaGorath wrote:
metallifan wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:
Oh? I would think that any racial supremacist movement would be similarly balking to you. Violent extremism isn't the sole property of islam, and there have been plenty of christians, jews, communists, and good white folk that have done the same. Acting like radical islamists have taken it to a new extreme just shows a bit of a lack of perspective.



The difference is, I don't believe we should deny them their right to exist, which is more than I can say in regards to their opinions on other religious or ethnic groups. Of course violent extremism has existed throughout history. The Crusades, the Irish civil war, the Holocaust, Soviet persecution of the Ukranian Orthodox Church, the KKK, so on and so forth. In medieval times, when people didn't have the education they do now, when State and Religion were one and the same for most of the world, this wasn't out-of-place. Extremism was a fact of life for most of Europe and the Middle-East. That doesn't make it alright, but that's how it was.

We don't live in the middle ages though. Such behavior has no place anymore. There -are- extremist groups for a wide spectrum of ideals and religions, true. But none seem as easily offended as Islamic extremists. It seems like every little joke or jab against them results in a call for blood. And there's a long list of things that'll cause that call, it would seem, one of them being an adult cartoon that really is impossible to take seriously.


You do realize that a majority of violent islamists come from regions without functioning public education and literacy rates that are similar to those seen in the medieval ages?


Sadly I do, and I consider it very unfortunate that the circumstances in which they live mean they likely won't see any other point of view aside from "Kill the Infidels!", or understand that there are better ways to resolve things. But there's also the fact that several also come from educated states, which are often the groups getting offended by things like this. The group in question is one of these.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:03:14


Post by: Ahtman


Valhallan42nd wrote:Wait, South Park is still on the air?


I feel the same way. I was hoping they were working on Basketball 2.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:11:33


Post by: isthatmycow


Well, I didn't see the episode, so I wouldn't know. I like south park. I are muslim, so, unless they were like, i dunno, doing crap like that one Danish newpaper did, Then I ain't got no beef with them, and all my other muslim friends would say the same.

Oh and one more thing.

People Dakka:

Wake the feth up.

That ONE site, with that ONE comment, doesn't mean that that's what Islam is about. If Islam was hateful, bigoted and violent, I would drop it in a heartbeat. But Islam is tolerant, loving and peaceful religion. So don't think for a second that comment is what all muslims think.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:25:21


Post by: metallifan


isthatmycow wrote:Well, I didn't see the episode, so I wouldn't know. I like south park. I are muslim, so, unless they were like, i dunno, doing crap like that one Danish newpaper did, Then I ain't got no beef with them, and all my other muslim friends would say the same.

Oh and one more thing.

People Dakka:

Wake the feth up.

That ONE site, with that ONE comment, doesn't mean that that's what Islam is about. If Islam was hateful, bigoted and violent, I would drop it in a heartbeat. But Islam is tolerant, loving and peaceful religion. So don't think for a second that comment is what all muslims think.



They showed Muhammed wearing a bear suit. Somehow that that gives this extremist group justification to make threats of torture, mutilation, and murder.

If you're reading this thread, which I'm assuming you are, many of us are not criticizing Muslims in general. Only the extremists that give the Islamic religion a bad name. Most (Not all) folks have the mental capacity to differentiate between the two.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:28:33


Post by: isthatmycow


Oh, sorry, was not reading right, cowfail :(

I can understand and agree with you


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:32:22


Post by: Frazzled


Ahtman wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Now that I think about it. Why are terrorists watching Infidel TV in the first place? here's a hint to Alqaeda's accounting department. Reality TV and the Playboy channel are not "current events"...


It's a website forum, not everyone on it's a terrorist. Some are probably just disenfranchised tools, and disenfranchised tools watch tv to get mad. It's the same thing that makes Glen Beck millions.


Am I only person who remembers when Beck was on the radio doing imitation interviews?


Most of us weren't around when there was only one radio station west of the Mississippi, and just one east of it.


Well yea.

"Now listen here Buchanan. I knew George, and you're no George Washington." Frazzled debating a future President Buchanan at Billy Bob's on why Buchanan would never amount to anything. He was right.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:34:59


Post by: Soladrin


Cow, no offense, but what was so bad about those cartoons... can't you take a joke? :\


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:38:48


Post by: Major Malfunction


I can see from the quotes no time was wasted dragging Jesus and Glen Beck through the mud. How incredibly imaginative and refreshing.

How can anyone in their right mind possibly defend Islamic head sawing feths and try to compare Christians and political opinion show hosts to death threats for cartoons?

Some people are seriously self deluded.



Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:43:27


Post by: isthatmycow


Well yeah, me and my best friend (who is a hardcore christian) joke around all the time, he calls muhammad a terrorsit, I call Jesus gay, and we joke around, but we respect each other's beliefs. But what was the intention of the artist? From what I've heard, the artist drew those cartoons because he DID hate muslims, and he DID think muhammad was terrorist. i've nothing against jokes, but it's when the jokes aren't just jokes, but malicious, and that's when I get offended, when people are trying to insult you, because they hate you.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:46:17


Post by: Soladrin


isthatmycow wrote:Well yeah, me and my best friend (who is a hardcore christian) joke around all the time, he calls muhammad a terrorsit, I call Jesus gay, and we joke around, but we respect each other's beliefs. But what was the intention of the artist? From what I've heard, the artist drew those cartoons because he DID hate muslims, and he DID think muhammad was terrorist. i've nothing against jokes, but it's when the jokes aren't just jokes, but malicious, and that's when I get offended, when people are trying to insult you, because they hate you.


So let me get this straight...
A guy, half way around the world, was drawing something dumb, and you actually gave a gak?

I can pretty much say something like that is being drawn any second of any day, about any religion, you've got a lot of feeling offended to do.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:48:04


Post by: MadEdric


Saw the episode and it's pretty funny how these guys are reacting. The whole episode basically is how to depict Mohamed without offending Muslims. Of course they go to the silly lengths to do it. First putting him in a U-haul van. Then the mascot suit since it seems to fit all criteria. None of Mohamed is showing and the suit is padded and what not so even his shape is not shown.
There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.

What this reaction basically shows is some Muslims are tight-arsed idiots with no sense of humor and seem to look forward to reasons to be "outraged!".

Not all, not even a majority, but the vocal fringe.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:52:42


Post by: dogma


The Green Git wrote:I can see from the quotes no time was wasted dragging Jesus and Glen Beck through the mud. How incredibly imaginative and refreshing.


No one mentioned Jesus.

The only comment directed at Glen Beck dealt with the fact that he profits from the enhancement of anger, which is indisputably true.

The Green Git wrote:
How can anyone in their right mind possibly defend Islamic head sawing feths and try to compare Christians and political opinion show hosts to death threats for cartoons?


No one did any such thing.

A statement was made which indicated that violent extremism is not the sole purview of Islam, and that statement included a reference (among others) to violent, Christian groups. But that does not indicate that all Christians are comparable to militant Islamists, which seems to be the conclusion that you're drawing.

Similarly, the comment about Beck was not a comparison to the act making a death threat, but a comment on the psychological reasons that people watch TV.

The Green Git wrote:
Some people are seriously self deluded.


Yes, some people are.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 21:56:33


Post by: metallifan


The Green Git wrote:How can anyone in their right mind possibly defend Islamic head sawing feths and try to compare Christians and political opinion show hosts to death threats for cartoons?

Some people are seriously self deluded.



No one was "defending" them. History will show you just how easy it is to compare.

Close-minded statements like this do you no favors.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:08:49


Post by: Clthomps


Soladrin wrote:Cow, no offense, but what was so bad about those cartoons... can't you take a joke? :\



Other than the fact that they believe there is a mandate from God against it? I would think thats enough.






On a side note, this thread is getting really offensive in itself. While I am not a Muslim I one of my best friends is, so while voicing your opinion on the subject is fine, calling all all Muslims "Stupid as feth" is not. Use some common courtesy people! This is why there is a debate on banning the religion based off-topic threads.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:12:39


Post by: isthatmycow


Soladrin wrote:
isthatmycow wrote:Well yeah, me and my best friend (who is a hardcore christian) joke around all the time, he calls muhammad a terrorsit, I call Jesus gay, and we joke around, but we respect each other's beliefs. But what was the intention of the artist? From what I've heard, the artist drew those cartoons because he DID hate muslims, and he DID think muhammad was terrorist. i've nothing against jokes, but it's when the jokes aren't just jokes, but malicious, and that's when I get offended, when people are trying to insult you, because they hate you.


So let me get this straight...
A guy, half way around the world, was drawing something dumb, and you actually gave a gak?

I can pretty much say something like that is being drawn any second of any day, about any religion, you've got a lot of feeling offended to do.


Well he did that like what... 4 years ago? And at that time i was 11, very hot-headed and ws easily angered. I mean, it doesn't bother me now, but of course when some says *insert offesive racist term here* to me, I get angry, like moest would, but it's not like i'm gonna murder your family for. I just get angry and get over it 98 seconds later.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:18:03


Post by: Clthomps


Saw the episode and it's pretty funny how these guys are reacting. The whole episode basically is how to depict Mohamed without offending Muslims. Of course they go to the silly lengths to do it. First putting him in a U-haul van. Then the mascot suit since it seems to fit all criteria. None of Mohamed is showing and the suit is padded and what not so even his shape is not shown.


So what you are saying here is that you saw the episode, and yet still don't understand that the episode is about making fun of certain religious rules?



There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.


That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have seen in a long time... Congratulations



What this reaction basically shows is some Muslims are tight-arsed idiots with no sense of humor and seem to look forward to reasons to be "outraged!".

Not all, not even a majority, but the vocal fringe.


Do you even know anyone that is Muslim? That is one of the most offensive responses yet. While it is a small minority of Muslims that would act upon their outrage, I would say the vast majority are offended. I assume that you yourself are not religious and therefor have no idea how strong feelings are regarding mandates from god.


Do you think someone keeping Kosher would be happy if you fed them pork? How is displaying a picture of the Prophet any different? Its a direct violation of the word of god.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:23:29


Post by: Soladrin


Clthomps wrote:
Saw the episode and it's pretty funny how these guys are reacting. The whole episode basically is how to depict Mohamed without offending Muslims. Of course they go to the silly lengths to do it. First putting him in a U-haul van. Then the mascot suit since it seems to fit all criteria. None of Mohamed is showing and the suit is padded and what not so even his shape is not shown.


So what you are saying here is that you saw the episode, and yet still don't understand that the episode is about making fun of certain religious rules?



There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.


That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have seen in a long time... Congratulations



What this reaction basically shows is some Muslims are tight-arsed idiots with no sense of humor and seem to look forward to reasons to be "outraged!".

Not all, not even a majority, but the vocal fringe.


Do you even know anyone that is Muslim? That is one of the most offensive responses yet. While it is a small minority of Muslims that would act upon their outrage, I would say the vast majority are offended. I assume that you yourself are not religious and therefor have no idea how strong feelings are regarding mandates from god.

Do you think someone keeping Kosher would be happy if you fed them pork? How is displaying a picture of the Prophet any different? Its a direct violation of the word of god.


And you seem to be talking out of your ass


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:24:53


Post by: Frazzled


Everyone gets offended. I get offended at my own breath. So what?

Not so vague threats that you are going to stab cartoonists to death in the streets should be universally responded to with derision, distate, and maybe some nice hacker attacks (or JDAM if in the correct jurisdiction). This group's (and I am not saying Muslims I am saying these nutjobs) right to be offended ends at my nose. In the rest of the civilized world a proper response is using your own freedom of speech.

Modquisition on. Having said that I posted the thread to make fun of these nutjobs. Lets all remember Rule #1 and be polite to other posters.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:27:35


Post by: Soladrin


Frazzled wrote:
Modquisition on. Having said that I posted the thread to make fun of these nutjobs. Lets all remember Rule #1 and be polite to other posters.


But they make it so hard... ( or should I say easy? )


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:29:40


Post by: Clthomps


Soladrin wrote:
Clthomps wrote:
Saw the episode and it's pretty funny how these guys are reacting. The whole episode basically is how to depict Mohamed without offending Muslims. Of course they go to the silly lengths to do it. First putting him in a U-haul van. Then the mascot suit since it seems to fit all criteria. None of Mohamed is showing and the suit is padded and what not so even his shape is not shown.


So what you are saying here is that you saw the episode, and yet still don't understand that the episode is about making fun of certain religious rules?



There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.


That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have seen in a long time... Congratulations



What this reaction basically shows is some Muslims are tight-arsed idiots with no sense of humor and seem to look forward to reasons to be "outraged!".

Not all, not even a majority, but the vocal fringe.


Do you even know anyone that is Muslim? That is one of the most offensive responses yet. While it is a small minority of Muslims that would act upon their outrage, I would say the vast majority are offended. I assume that you yourself are not religious and therefor have no idea how strong feelings are regarding mandates from god.

Do you think someone keeping Kosher would be happy if you fed them pork? How is displaying a picture of the Prophet any different? Its a direct violation of the word of god.


And you seem to be talking out of your ass



Would you care to actually make a point or do you always respond with such childish remarks?


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:31:08


Post by: Soladrin


Depends on the day of the week.

But, I think that comment spoke for itself.

I don't like people with those tall horses.. you know...


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:31:28


Post by: Frazzled


Modquisition on. One more time guys. Lets keep this one polite.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:32:23


Post by: Clthomps


A simple "no, I have nothing intelligent to say" would have sufficed.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:33:14


Post by: Soladrin


I'm just going to heed Frazzies second warning and not bother with you.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:33:43


Post by: Frazzled


Clthomps wrote:A simple "no, I have nothing intelligent to say" would have sufficed.

No I have nothing intelligent to say.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:36:21


Post by: RustyKnight


Someone should let loose the hounds of 4chan upon revolutionmuslim.com.

Let's see them make death threats towards entertainers while their threads are full of child porn.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:38:39


Post by: Frazzled


RustyKnight wrote:Someone should let loose the hounds of 4chan upon revolutionmuslim.com.

Let's see them make death threats towards entertainers while their threads are full of child porn.


Now that is executive thinking!


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:38:51


Post by: Soladrin


LOL, i think you could call the 4chan crowds radicals too xD


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:41:41


Post by: metallifan


RustyKnight wrote:Someone should let loose the hounds of 4chan upon revolutionmuslim.com.

Let's see them make death threats towards entertainers while their threads are full of child porn.


And that's a very mild punishment considering.

I once remember reading about a time one member hacked into a White Supremacy site and made each link in the menu go to a rather infamous video of a horse humping some guy until he died.

Nuff' said.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:42:34


Post by: Orkeosaurus


Clthomps wrote:Do you think someone keeping Kosher would be happy if you ate pork yourself? How is displaying a picture of the Prophet any different? Its a direct violation of the word of god.
Fixed it for you, because your example really wasn't comparable.

There is a huge difference between trying to force someone into violating their own religious beliefs, and violating their religious beliefs yourself. Islam says you shouldn't depict the prophet Muhammad. Hinduism says you shouldn't eat beef. Catholicism says you shouldn't have sex out of wedlock. None of this gives the religious the right to declare that others cannot do these things, no matter how strongly they believe that it's a "mandate from God" that they don't.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:42:42


Post by: Soladrin


Hah, yea I remember that, respect for the hacker.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:48:27


Post by: Ahtman


Orkeosaurus wrote:Hinduism says you shouldn't eat beef.


That actually isn't quite right, but close enough. Judaism also doesn't allow for man-made representations of g-d.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:54:36


Post by: Clthomps


Orkeosaurus wrote:
Clthomps wrote:Do you think someone keeping Kosher would be happy if you ate pork yourself? How is displaying a picture of the Prophet any different? Its a direct violation of the word of god.
Fixed it for you, because your example really wasn't comparable.

There is a huge difference between trying to force someone into violating their own religious beliefs, and violating their religious beliefs yourself. Islam says you shouldn't depict the prophet Muhammad. Hinduism says you shouldn't eat beef. Catholicism says you shouldn't have sex out of wedlock. None of this gives the religious the right to declare that others cannot do these things, no matter how strongly they believe that it's a "mandate from God" that they don't.



Correct, it's hard to find a comparable example that the average reader would be familiar with. The real difference is that Islam does have rules on how society should act, since its traditions were written after the creation of Islamic states. I suppose its equivalent to killing a cow around a Hindu while they are not doing the act themselves they are witnessing it, and more than likely having strong feelings against it.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Judaism also doesn't allow for man-made representations of g-d.


In Islam the Muhammad is a prophet not a god.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 22:57:53


Post by: Anung Un Rama


I'm trying to put this as non-offensive as I can.

It's South Park. Get the feth over it. They've been doing stuff like this for, oh look, 200 episodes!

I don't think I can contribute any more to this thread.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 23:05:55


Post by: CitizenPrime


This is a case of people who hold nothing sacred being unable to understand a group who hold something so sacred as to go to extreme violent acts to defend it.



Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 23:06:11


Post by: Clthomps


Back to the topic, has anyone else noticed that RevolutionMuslim.com is down. Maybe 4-chan did get to them


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2015/04/01 23:06:56


Post by: dogma


Clthomps wrote:
In Islam the Muhammad is a prophet not a god.


And the prohibition of depictions of the prophet (and God) comes, primarily, from the Hadith, not the Koran. Therefore the prohibition is not necessarily a derivation of the Word of God, though many Muslims may believe that.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 23:08:59


Post by: Pslotha


lol extremists, they're like "that guy" at your GW or LFGS.


Hopefully when they decide to show Muhammad he'll look better than this : /




Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 23:11:19


Post by: Corpsesarefun


isthatmycow wrote: Then I ain't got no beef with them, and all my other muslim friends would say the same.


What about pork?



Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 23:12:47


Post by: Ahtman


Clthomps wrote:In Islam the Muhammad is a prophet not a god.


As soon as I hit "post" I realized I had phased it poorly, and that it might imply just such a thing. Then I remembered where I was posting it and that no one here is smart enough to make such a distinction. Am I right? HIGH FIVE!



Seriously though I did realize it, I just didn't care enough to edit it.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 23:15:24


Post by: Anung Un Rama


Is that the original cartoon which caused all that ruckus?


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 23:24:31


Post by: metallifan


MeanGreenStompa wrote:


But... But...

I loves me Applejuice! And nothing beats a hangover like Fresh Squeezed Oranges


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 23:31:40


Post by: Lord-Loss


Metallifan wrote:I once remember reading about a time one member hacked into a White Supremacy site and made each link in the menu go to a rather infamous video of a horse humping some guy until he died.


I've watched that video and honestly, no one deserves that.

I still can't look a horse in the eye, not that I need to anway... and I'm permantly scarred for life. It's just not funny.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/20 23:42:54


Post by: ShumaGorath


The Green Git wrote:I can see from the quotes no time was wasted dragging Jesus and Glen Beck through the mud. How incredibly imaginative and refreshing.

How can anyone in their right mind possibly defend Islamic head sawing feths and try to compare Christians and political opinion show hosts to death threats for cartoons?

Some people are seriously self deluded.



No one did that. Try to read the fething posts you pretend to respond to. At least put that last tiny bit of effort in.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 00:47:29


Post by: Albatross


Lord-Loss wrote:I still can't look a horse in the eye, not that I need to anway... and I'm permantly scarred for life.


Hey, it's okay folks - he didn't die after all! He's just got a few scars. Understandable, really.



@Frazzled - What were you thinking? How did you honestly think this thread would end? If someone had posted something about Christians being violent and idiotic, you would have locked it quicker than a very quick thing indeed. I honestly expected better from you, but that's not your fault - it's mine.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 00:56:37


Post by: MadEdric


Clthomps wrote:Saw the episode and it's pretty funny how these guys are reacting. The whole episode basically is how to depict Mohamed without offending Muslims. Of course they go to the silly lengths to do it. First putting him in a U-haul van. Then the mascot suit since it seems to fit all criteria. None of Mohamed is showing and the suit is padded and what not so even his shape is not shown.

So what you are saying here is that you saw the episode, and yet still don't understand that the episode is about making fun of certain religious rules?


I see them making fun of a group that demands the entire world adhere to their religious interpretation and having a fit when it doesn't happen. This is the response of a child when someone makes fun of them, not the response of adults. Southpark set these guys up and they fell for it hard. That is the true comedy of a show that's not really that good.



There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.

That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have seen in a long time... Congratulations


What? That other religions can stand having their Gods/Prophets mocked and that this one fringe group makes theirs look stupid by their childish outbursts over a stupid cartoon?



What this reaction basically shows is some Muslims are tight-arsed idiots with no sense of humor and seem to look forward to reasons to be "outraged!".

Not all, not even a majority, but the vocal fringe.

Do you even know anyone that is Muslim? That is one of the most offensive responses yet. While it is a small minority of Muslims that would act upon their outrage, I would say the vast majority are offended. I assume that you yourself are not religious and therefor have no idea how strong feelings are regarding mandates from god.


I know people of all religions, Muslims included and besides one jerk "Nation of Islam" fella I knew in the Army I found Muslims to be great people. These same Muslims I know would agree that the statements of these radicals damage the image of Muslims everywhere.
Whether I'm religious or not means nothing and has no bearing. Other Muslims can look at this, sigh and carry on with their lives. Other Muslims can laugh at it. Then there are the fringe groups (and they exist in every religion/political party) that want to create violence over something stupid.


Do you think someone keeping Kosher would be happy if you fed them pork? How is displaying a picture of the Prophet any different? Its a direct violation of the word of god.

If I did, certainly. As others have sad. If I ate pork in front of them and they got upset, that's their problem and not mine.
Again, it's their religion and they have absolutely no right in the world to demand that anyone outside of their religion adhere to their beliefs and threatening violence shows them as thugs.
Thank you for your oh so level headed response.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 04:32:39


Post by: Clthomps



There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.

That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have seen in a long time... Congratulations



What? That other religions can stand having their Gods/Prophets mocked and that this one fringe group makes theirs look stupid by their childish outbursts over a stupid cartoon?



wow I did't think it was necessary to explain why this is one of the most ridiculous quotes ever, but I guess it is...

Buddhism boils down to the removal of all negative thoughts and actions, it is the cornerstone of their religion. Hence and outraged Buddhist is an oxymoron.



Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 04:43:37


Post by: ShumaGorath


Clthomps wrote:

There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.

That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have seen in a long time... Congratulations



What? That other religions can stand having their Gods/Prophets mocked and that this one fringe group makes theirs look stupid by their childish outbursts over a stupid cartoon?



wow I did't think it was necessary to explain why this is one of the most ridiculous quotes ever, but I guess it is...

Buddhism boils down to the removal of all negative thoughts and actions, it is the cornerstone of their religion. Hence and outraged Buddhist is an oxymoron.



Incorrect. Zen buddhism is far from the entirety of buddhism and the removal of negative emotions and distorted thoughts are the merest fraction of it's purpose. Try again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism

The conflicts in thailand and burma alone prove that wrong, let alone significant historical eras of violence in practicing buddhist cultures such as China japan or india. Buddhists can be just as violent as any other religious practitioner, violence is an inherent aspect of human nature and is not something religion can simply do away with.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 04:45:34


Post by: Wrexasaur


Clthomps wrote:wow I did't think it was necessary to explain why this is one of the most ridiculous quotes ever, but I guess it is...

Buddhism boils down to the removal of all negative thoughts and actions, it is the cornerstone of their religion. Hence and outraged Buddhist is an oxymoron.


http://www.sangam.org/articles/view/?id=118

The Buddha's sermons seem, however, to condemn all violence, toward oneself and toward others. Suicide, it is true, is not formally forbidden. And Buddhism remains ambivalent toward the interiorized form of violence that is asceticism. Well-ordered violence begins with oneself. Chinese monks, to show their determination, would sometimes mutilate themselves—cutting off or burning one or more of their fingers. In extreme cases self-denial could extend to self-immolation by fire. We recall the horrific image of the Vietnamese monk who, at the start of the U.S. military intervention in his country, chose this death as a sign of protest.


You can call what the monk is doing in this image whatever you want, but for me, this is far and beyond outrage, while being on the same scale of reaction.

I guess it is fun to believe whatever you want, really...

Something else that is interesting, is the fact that Buddhism has 'a' hell. Looks pretty cool if you ask me.







Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 04:59:52


Post by: JEB_Stuart


Anung Un Rama wrote:Is that the original cartoon which caused all that ruckus?
Yes...


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 05:01:25


Post by: Arctik_Firangi


Anung Un Rama wrote:Is that the original cartoon which caused all that ruckus?


That's one of 'em. There were many cartoons by many artists, the famous 12 created on the request of the newspaper that published them. One, containing arabic writing, actually attacked the newspaper itself - overlooked by the non-arabic-reading editor.

When the delegation of imams discussed the offensive imagery in the middle east, they actually included three more cartoons that were far more offensive, but completely unconnected to the publications in the newspaper other than the subject matter. The most offensive one was probably of a dog mounting a praying Muslim, with the caption saying something along the lines of 'this is why they pray'.

The Danish imams who provided these three additional images were obviously trying to stir up controversy, unless of course they were misled themselves.

There are plenty of examples of Mohammed in full view in period artwork, however. Many left the face blank but drew the figure, but this is artwork from 1307.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 06:15:19


Post by: Kilkrazy


The issue is not depictions of the Prophet, it is insults to the Prophet.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 06:53:53


Post by: Orkeosaurus


In that case they have far less of an excuse to throw a tantrum.

The satire was of the Muslim practice of refusing to depict Mohammad, it had nothing to do with Mohammad personally. And many other religious (and political, and cultural...) figures actually have been insulted by the show, and are insulted by many other shows to a worse degree, without this kind of immaturity showing up everywhere.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 07:32:27


Post by: Emperors Faithful


Albatross wrote:
Lord-Loss wrote:I still can't look a horse in the eye, not that I need to anway... and I'm permantly scarred for life.


Hey, it's okay folks - he didn't die after all! He's just got a few scars. Understandable, really.


This was worth reading through the entire thread for.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 07:37:13


Post by: ShumaGorath


Orkeosaurus wrote:In that case they have far less of an excuse to throw a tantrum.

The satire was of the Muslim practice of refusing to depict Mohammad, it had nothing to do with Mohammad personally. And many other religious (and political, and cultural...) figures actually have been insulted by the show, and are insulted by many other shows to a worse degree, without this kind of immaturity showing up everywhere.


I think this is the part where we all have a big epiphany and understand that reactionary and extremist people are not creatures of logic or restraint.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 07:49:37


Post by: Ahtman


ShumaGorath wrote:
Orkeosaurus wrote:In that case they have far less of an excuse to throw a tantrum.

The satire was of the Muslim practice of refusing to depict Mohammad, it had nothing to do with Mohammad personally. And many other religious (and political, and cultural...) figures actually have been insulted by the show, and are insulted by many other shows to a worse degree, without this kind of immaturity showing up everywhere.


I think this is the part where we all have a big epiphany and understand that reactionary and extremist people are not creatures of logic or restraint.


You just blew my mind.

As for Buddhism, it is like most other major religions in that there are many different forms and not everyone the belongs to it thinks the same of it. Much like Westboro Baptist and Quakers are dissimilar but are both Christian groups.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 07:51:34


Post by: Lord-Loss


Albatross wrote:
Lord-Loss wrote:I still can't look a horse in the eye, not that I need to anway... and I'm permantly scarred for life.


Hey, it's okay folks - he didn't die after all! He's just got a few scars. Understandable, really.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kenneth_Pinyan

Anway watch the video and tell me that man could have survived.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 11:58:33


Post by: Emperors Faithful


Um, no. It's bad enough that that image is banded into my imagination, so I think I'll think I'll spare the scarring of my retinas with the same thing.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 12:25:21


Post by: Frazzled


Albatross wrote:
Lord-Loss wrote:I still can't look a horse in the eye, not that I need to anway... and I'm permantly scarred for life.


Hey, it's okay folks - he didn't die after all! He's just got a few scars. Understandable, really.



@Frazzled - What were you thinking? How did you honestly think this thread would end? If someone had posted something about Christians being violent and idiotic, you would have locked it quicker than a very quick thing indeed. I honestly expected better from you, but that's not your fault - it's mine.


No we had an 11 page post on the pope. I think that noe is still open.
You can attack these nutjobs as the nutjobs they are. We (and the moderates in the religion) need to start separating the nutjob crazies from the rest of the religion or it will beomce accepted dogma that that does indeed represent the entire religion.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 12:36:51


Post by: Albatross


Frazzled wrote:
Albatross wrote:
Lord-Loss wrote:I still can't look a horse in the eye, not that I need to anway... and I'm permantly scarred for life.


Hey, it's okay folks - he didn't die after all! He's just got a few scars. Understandable, really.



@Frazzled - What were you thinking? How did you honestly think this thread would end? If someone had posted something about Christians being violent and idiotic, you would have locked it quicker than a very quick thing indeed. I honestly expected better from you, but that's not your fault - it's mine.


No we had an 11 page post on the pope. I think that noe is still open.
You can attack these nutjobs as the nutjobs they are. We (and the moderates in the religion) need to start separating the nutjob crazies from the rest of the religion or it will beomce accepted dogma that that does indeed represent the entire religion.


Whatever, man. It just strikes me that by starting a thread on an issue like this, you're making more work for yourself. Islam threads rarely end well.

On the plus side, they ARE often fun to read...


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 16:02:17


Post by: Major Malfunction


metallifan wrote:
The Green Git wrote:How can anyone in their right mind possibly defend Islamic head sawing feths and try to compare Christians and political opinion show hosts to death threats for cartoons?


No one was "defending" them. History will show you just how easy it is to compare.


Beg to differ. All sorts of excuses were offered in this very thread and it's inexcusable.

Defend your beliefs on intellectual grounds... but murdering those who disagree with you on the sole basis of their disagreement, ethnic heritage or perceived slights against your beliefs is backwards, savage and wrong. Period.




Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 16:16:51


Post by: ShumaGorath


The Green Git wrote:
metallifan wrote:
The Green Git wrote:How can anyone in their right mind possibly defend Islamic head sawing feths and try to compare Christians and political opinion show hosts to death threats for cartoons?


No one was "defending" them. History will show you just how easy it is to compare.


Beg to differ. All sorts of excuses were offered in this very thread and it's inexcusable.

Defend your beliefs on intellectual grounds... but murdering those who disagree with you on the sole basis of their disagreement, ethnic heritage or perceived slights against your beliefs is backwards, savage and wrong. Period.




I think you posted in the wrong thread. Your post is clearly a blatant lie when it's here.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 16:42:54


Post by: SagesStone


Can't we get rid of religion and simply just go back to fighting over land if we must fight so much >_>

Obviously at first they were meant to provoke hope, but that seems to have been misinterpreted ages ago.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 16:49:47


Post by: metallifan


The Green Git wrote:
Beg to differ. All sorts of excuses were offered in this very thread and it's inexcusable.

Defend your beliefs on intellectual grounds... but murdering those who disagree with you on the sole basis of their disagreement, ethnic heritage or perceived slights against your beliefs is backwards, savage and wrong. Period.




Like Shuma said, why don't you try -reading- a thread before posting comments in it? No one was standing up for extremist behavior at any point. Rather, people were defending the Muslim faith, and pointing out that it's a very ignorant person that makes the mistake of assuming "Muslim" and "Extremist" are one and the same. Such assumptions could also be called "backwards, savage and wrong."


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 17:39:32


Post by: sebster


Is it really news to anyone that wingnut Muslims threaten violence over minor offences? They're out there, they're crazy, and we all know about it. Like talking about every single thing the Westboro Baptist church does, at some point I suspect the only effect is to tar the majority with the craziness of the minority. We shouldn't ignore the crazy fringe, but we should keep it in perspective.


Also, it doesn't make much sense to me that Muhammed can't be depicted, but it doesn't have to make sense to me, taboos don't have to make much sense, and certainly not to anyone outside of that group. That isn't to say depictions of Muhammed should be banned, but it stands to reason that someone should exercise restraint and decent judgement. The image with the bomb turban would be a pretty good example of completely and utterly failing to do that.

I haven't seen the South Park episode in question, but I liked the last episode they used to address the topic, with Family Guy and the manatees. I figure this will probably be worthwhile as well.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 17:47:07


Post by: ShumaGorath


n0t_u wrote:Can't we get rid of religion and simply just go back to fighting over land if we must fight so much >_>

Obviously at first they were meant to provoke hope, but that seems to have been misinterpreted ages ago.


Getting rid of religion and doing much better things like race based tribal violence, ethnic cleansing (Hitler!), communist national reformation (cultural revolution!), and forced industrial-economic revitalization (soviet collective industry!) is a great idea. Clearly religion (rather than what caused napoleons invasions, alexander the greats conquests, Ghengis Khans empire building, or the ethnic cleansing of north and south america by european colonists!) is the issue here. It has absolutely nothing to do with inherent human indecency towards other humans when under the guise of movements or great changes for progress.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 17:49:31


Post by: MadEdric


Clthomps wrote:

There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.

That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have seen in a long time... Congratulations



What? That other religions can stand having their Gods/Prophets mocked and that this one fringe group makes theirs look stupid by their childish outbursts over a stupid cartoon?



wow I did't think it was necessary to explain why this is one of the most ridiculous quotes ever, but I guess it is...

Buddhism boils down to the removal of all negative thoughts and actions, it is the cornerstone of their religion. Hence and outraged Buddhist is an oxymoron.



And wow... I thought maybe you had some grounding in the real world. I don't need to add how Buddhists kill and slaughter others since people already supplied that for me.



Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 18:03:52


Post by: ShumaGorath


MadEdric wrote:
Clthomps wrote:

There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.

That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have seen in a long time... Congratulations



What? That other religions can stand having their Gods/Prophets mocked and that this one fringe group makes theirs look stupid by their childish outbursts over a stupid cartoon?



wow I did't think it was necessary to explain why this is one of the most ridiculous quotes ever, but I guess it is...

Buddhism boils down to the removal of all negative thoughts and actions, it is the cornerstone of their religion. Hence and outraged Buddhist is an oxymoron.



And wow... I thought maybe you had some grounding in the real world. I don't need to add how Buddhists kill and slaughter others since people already supplied that for me.



I think you need to turn that kill into "have killed". Minor changes in word structure prevent major misinterpretations!


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 18:47:58


Post by: MadEdric


ShumaGorath wrote:
MadEdric wrote:
Clthomps wrote:

There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.

That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have seen in a long time... Congratulations



What? That other religions can stand having their Gods/Prophets mocked and that this one fringe group makes theirs look stupid by their childish outbursts over a stupid cartoon?



wow I did't think it was necessary to explain why this is one of the most ridiculous quotes ever, but I guess it is...

Buddhism boils down to the removal of all negative thoughts and actions, it is the cornerstone of their religion. Hence and outraged Buddhist is an oxymoron.




And wow... I thought maybe you had some grounding in the real world. I don't need to add how Buddhists kill and slaughter others since people already supplied that for me.



I think you need to turn that kill into "have killed". Minor changes in word structure prevent major misinterpretations!


True.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 19:43:23


Post by: Kilkrazy


As far as Buddhism goes there is a fair amount of bad crap going down in Thailand ATM and their main religion is Buddhism.

Zen was the Samurai's religion (or philosophy) of choice.

None of human behaviour is to do with religion. Religion is to do with human behaviour. Humans with biases use religion to justify their pre-conceived notions.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 22:55:29


Post by: Orkeosaurus


Ahtman wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:I think this is the part where we all have a big epiphany and understand that reactionary and extremist people are not creatures of logic or restraint.


You just blew my mind.
Dammit Shuma! I was going to lead up with a parable or two, maybe a little tangent about the Spanish inquisition... you can't just come in and steal my work!


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/21 22:57:17


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Actually watching that episode right now.

It's piss funny!

Let's all just ignore the loony Muslim faction, and they will go away.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/22 15:20:49


Post by: BloodDrop101X


Or send more of our troops over for a little more population control would be nice


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/22 16:43:18


Post by: Kilkrazy


Yes, that's bound to get the "nice" muslims on our side.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/22 16:58:26


Post by: metallifan


BloodDrop101X wrote:Or send more of our troops over for a little more population control would be nice


You mean like everyone is already doing?

That's certainly worked out -very- well.

Much as I support the mission, "MOAR GUIZE!!!1!" Isn't a plan that's going to work.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/22 17:02:09


Post by: Soladrin


metallifan wrote:
BloodDrop101X wrote:Or send more of our troops over for a little more population control would be nice


You mean like everyone is already doing?

That's certainly worked out -very- well.

Much as I support the mission, "MOAR GUIZE!!!1!" Isn't a plan that's going to work.


How about... MORE DAKKA?!


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/22 17:10:17


Post by: metallifan


Now that's a plan I can put faith in!


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/22 17:36:00


Post by: Kilkrazy


MOAR DIPPIN DOTZ!!


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 10:01:11


Post by: Anung Un Rama


For anyone who's interested, you can watch both episodes here. 200 and 201.

In the first episode they never show Muhammed and in the second Comedy Central had even the name bleeped out, but it's still South Park at its finest.

At this point it is unclear when 201 will be available on the usual site.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 12:32:56


Post by: Frazzled


Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Actually watching that episode right now.

It's piss funny!

Let's all just ignore the loony Muslim faction, and they will go away.

No, they won't.


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Kilkrazy wrote:As far as Buddhism goes there is a fair amount of bad crap going down in Thailand ATM and their main religion is Buddhism.

Zen was the Samurai's religion (or philosophy) of choice.

None of human behaviour is to do with religion. Religion is to do with human behaviour. Humans with biases use religion to justify their pre-conceived notions.

Your forgot the bad crap is South thailand. GGuess whats in South Thailand-extremist terrorist muslims trying to form their own state.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 12:36:43


Post by: Khornholio


Saw both episodes. As it turns out, it was all about censorship and that Cartman unwittingly committed patricide. Far-out.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 14:23:46


Post by: halonachos


The second one was not all about censorship, Comedy Central censored the show. Trey Stone and Matt Parker aren't airing the show on the website because Comedy Central censored it without their consent.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 17:34:47


Post by: Anung Un Rama


Comedy Central also pulled the original episode with the Super Best Friends. You can still watch it here though.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 18:26:37


Post by: ShumaGorath


Your forgot the bad crap is South thailand. GGuess whats in South Thailand-extremist terrorist muslims trying to form their own state.


The redshirt protests are predominantly buddhist (including their leadership), and there has lately been several acts of what could be considered terrorist violence.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 18:28:03


Post by: Frazzled


The beheadings of Buddhist monks aint.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 18:59:08


Post by: ShumaGorath


Frazzled wrote:The beheadings of Buddhist monks aint.


Nope. It's a big 'ol world isn't it!


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 20:31:19


Post by: Mannahnin


The Daily Show did a great segment on this last night. Jon Stewart railed this fringe group, and did a musical "Go F yourselves" number with a choir group. It was awesome.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 20:32:12


Post by: Frazzled


Mannahnin wrote:The Daily Show did a great segment on this last night. Jon Stewart railed this fringe group, and did a musical "Go F yourselves" number with a choir group. It was awesome.



Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 20:36:39


Post by: RustyKnight


Anung Un Rama wrote:For anyone who's interested, you can watch both episodes here. 200 and 201.

In the first episode they never show Muhammed and in the second Comedy Central had even the name bleeped out, but it's still South Park at its finest.

At this point it is unclear when 201 will be available on the usual site.
That website attacked my computer.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 20:52:30


Post by: ShumaGorath


Frazzled wrote:
Mannahnin wrote:The Daily Show did a great segment on this last night. Jon Stewart railed this fringe group, and did a musical "Go F yourselves" number with a choir group. It was awesome.



Yeah, that blew my mind when I saw it. It was glorious.


Radical Islamic site sends warning to SouthPark creators @ 2010/04/23 22:03:32


Post by: Anung Un Rama


RustyKnight wrote:
Anung Un Rama wrote:For anyone who's interested, you can watch both episodes here. 200 and 201.

In the first episode they never show Muhammed and in the second Comedy Central had even the name bleeped out, but it's still South Park at its finest.

At this point it is unclear when 201 will be available on the usual site.
That website attacked my computer.
Really? I didn't get anything. Maybe I should run scan.