With most locations having completed their prelims...


How did you do?

Did you have fun?

Did the whole thing turn into a massive argument about KP for drop pods (yes, I know they were fixed)?

I'm still waiting for tommorow. :(

I won with nids in Fairborn ohio.
Kevin Kirby took second with green skins.
I feel bad (forget the name of the third place fellow.) But he played Eldar.(great guy i just suck with names.


First round was orcs for me. This pretty much ended up being me being lucky and forcing him into a bottle neck. But this was a well played game and was lots of fun.

Second round was against Term marines. Bad reserve rolls for him and amazing Tervagon rolls for me were the swing in this game.

Third round was against mounted orcs. this went in my favor only because of the mission. He kills ones of my units and i get a 2 point swing when I kill one of his. If this was victory points straight up I lose. Because its funky fast unit scoring I win.

I had lots and lots of fun.


I think that at this point level Tervagons are a bit to strong when you can run them apart from each other and have more than one go off. These dudes were my life raft.




hope everyone had a great time.

Sweet i won worst dice rolling EVER seen! I got dead last and yeah i know 1k sons arent the greatest but you know what i had tons of fun losing....why you ask because i couldnt help but laugh at my ridiculous rolling. First game i did alright and would have done better had i not bottle necked my opponents so much which in turn forced me away from objectives. The other two were just me watching my army get shredded because most of my rolls werent over a two. Bad thing is i didnt have any other dice and just laughed the other two rounds away.

Played at Rhubarb Games here in Florida
I won with 'Stealer heavy 'Nids.
2nd was won by a Foot Guard list.
3rd place was Black Templars.

My first game was against a Hybrid Mech Guard. Massacre + 4

My second game was against a Dark Eldar Raider Spam. Tabled him on turn 4. Massacre + 4

Last game was against Black Templar list. Massacre + 3 for me.

It was quite fun to watch the guys go at it. Watched the new Blood Angels get steamrolled by mechanized guard. phew. Watching one of the Dark Angels greenwing get run over by BA, not so fun. One of the necron players had a chance of getting up there but got massacred on the last round.

Top 5
1) Tyranids
2) Imperial Guard
3) Blood Angels
4) Daemons
5) Tyranids

Very good games. I love our store as all the players are lighthearted and everyone has jokes to be made about how their troops are "Sleepy after noms" when nids get poor consolidation rolls and such.

I personally didn't enter as I haven't played a game in so long due to uni classes and wasn't comfortable enough with the rules. The next one though I'll be in. Hopefully as either Ravenwing or Deathwing, though not sure if I'll be able to give up my dev buddies.

Played at a small event -

1st Foot Eldar
2nd Vulcan Drop Pod
3rd - Sub Optimal Tyranids (me)

You know, for all we hear that tyranids are lousy, they look great so far!

Top 3

1st Tau (me)
2nd Necrons
3rd Tyranids

I won, with a pretty balanced IG list.
Straken, 2 platoons, a few Chimera transports, a couple of Vet squads, a couple assorted LR tanks, some sentinels, an Ogryn squad with a Comm lord.

First game was against a Vulkan list, with 3 Land Raiders
Game two against BA with 4 Land Raiders and 3 Baal Preds.
Game three vs. a Vanilla Marine list with 2 Land Raiders.

Yes, I faced 9 Land Raiders today, and I am tired.

Ended up being me in 1st, a BA list took 2nd, and Vanilla Marines in 3rd headin' to the semi-finals.

Great day, lots of fun

I took first with Foot BAs. Third scenario was too easy.

I had a good day of gaming,as well as a close game against a friendly rival. My brother didnt make it so I was a little bummed out.

Top 3
1. Mech (I mean mech) IG
2. Deamons
3. All foot Chaos Marines

Tournament was
5 x vanilla marines
3x Wolves
2 x Chaosmarine
1 bloodangel
1 daemon
1 D eldar
1 IG
1 Tau
1 Nid

I had a good time but didn't do very well. Also the guy I played in round three had played a very similar army the round before, not to mention I made some very newbie mistakes :(

But I still had a great time, and got to meat a few new people.

So at the event I was at the top three was

1) Bugs
2) Battlewagon Orks (similar to mine)
3) Mech Eldar

Edit: the fact that two very similar ork builds did very differently proves to me that orks are not a bad army, I just can't seem to embrace the ork mindset.

Placed 6th...had the initiative stolen from me in all 3 games...Somehow managed a minor victory, a draw and a massacre.

Pittsburgh

I won with loganwing
2nd and 3rd were orks

Timmah wrote:Top 3

1st Tau (me)
2nd Necrons
3rd Tyranids

That's interesting. Crappy competition, good player, surprise factor, or combination of all three?

Im more surprised about the tau player in the number one spot personally... no offense...

Small town game store 'Ard Boyz today had six players (after two players ended up having to cancel because of work, I think.) Amazingly, no Imperial players at all. Two Tyranid players, two Chaos Daemon players, a Dark Eldar and a Tau. (The extra two probably would have ended up being Ork and Chaos Space Marines.) Top three ended up being Tyranid, Chaos Daemons and Chaos Daemons.

I believe much fun was had by all. I think the biggest complaint about the scenarios was that almost no one realized that they needed to keep track of the victory points from scenario one for use in scenario three.

I won at Fortress in East Lansing, MI, with Chaos Daemons. We had a good turnout-about 20 players or so.

2nd Place was Blood Angels, 3rd was Space Marines.

Nids, CSM, CSM

I took third with an uninteresting CSM list.

Nid list had heavy shooting and gaunt spawning units.

Other CSM had Abaddon and relatively low mech.

1st: Nids
2nd: SM
3rd: IG

For my first time at Ard Boyz, I had fun.

Above Board Games, Ft Mill (NC? SC? Borders confuse me)

I took 1st with Horde Ork/Kan Wall

Second was a SW list (kaotik on dakka)

Third was actually a tie between 2 vanilla marines, with VP being the decider.

5th was another Columbian, Kyle, with a Vulkan list.


Crazy Beanz and Beadz in Easley was

1st - Blake with Tyranides

2nd - (?) with Tau (!)

3rd - Jeremy (I'm assuming Vulkan, as that's what he plays in Columbia... not sure though).

I placed 6th which means I'm 3rd alternate..yoohooo. (I totally should have done better, made a few bad choices)

I had speedfreaks, 2 bw's, 4 trukks, ghazzgull, nobs... etc etc.

The top 3 at my location, in Roanoke VA were

1:Chaos Demons
2:Nilla Space marines
3:Horde orks

GG

I feel like everyone who is surprised by Tau placing high has never actually played against a quality tau army/player before.

But w/e I guess.

I'll continue to tell my friends tau are bad because the internet told me and they will continue to laugh at me.

The Portal in PA

1st Space puppies
2nd Mech Guard
3rd Tau

I got SMASHED by the guard guy in the last game. I was playing a mostly raider spam DE. Despite my MANY Dark Lances and Blasters and Haywire grenades I ended the game with a ridiculous 4 kill points. He had around 40 to offer! It was the kind of luck that was so bad that you had to laugh and enjoy it. My only silver lining was that I made 16 obscured cover rolls for vehicles IN A ROW! It was pretty damn cool. ...And he still tabled me! Wacky day. But I did have 3 fantastic games! Good luck to semi finalists!

I finished 7th with vanilla biker marines (KAHHHHNNN). Denver, CO, USA

1) IG with WH allies
2) Space Wolves
3) some guy who i didn't play or see or remember wtf he played with

I was running the show, was quite fun... If only I could find where to imut results now...

Top 3 in my store were:
Quebec, Canada

1st: IG ( Medusas, Demolishers, Vendettas, 150 infantry )
2nd: Chaos MArines ( 4LR, Abaddon, Kharn)
3rd: Space Marine gunline ( 2 Vindy, assault bikes

Cheers to Semis!

Marc Parker got 1st with Dark Eldar and 2nd place was a Foot Ork.

I got 3rd of 12 with all Biker Marines with 10 TH/SS Terminators. The Terminators were a very important anchor that allowed me to compete against armies that I couldn't run from without a nasty speedbump.

There were 3 Tyranids, 3 Orcs, 3 Marines and a 3 Monolith Necron.

Maybe Tyranids are better at higher point costs due to how expensive their shooting units are? Hard to say. Skill is more important than build/race and that may shine through when some people are augmenting their basic strategy and other people are trying to cast a silver bullet list to play with.

Top three in my store:

1. Orks
2. Black Templar
3. Space Wolves


The Space Wolf player can't go to semis and passed his ticket onto 4th, who was Tyranid.

My orks took first after three 24 point massacres, two of which tabled my opponents. Battle reports will be forthcoming over the next day(s).

Well, I had a poor day rolling the dice. I have never missed that many Lascannon shots in my life. I went 1-1-1, Minor Victory, Draw, and Major Defeat.

I lost handily to the Salamanders and Vulkan He'Stan, twin linked MM and Flamers really don't like the IG. I only managed to kill a Sternguard marine, two assault marines, a Drednought & his dropod, and a rhino. Yay!

I drew ( I still can't beleive he was allowed to play, see my other thread) against arguably the worst player I have ever played. I understand if someone is new, that's fine we were all new once, but this guy wasn't new, he just stunk, and of course fate would give me the worst bit of rolling I have endured in my time playing 40K against this guy. He threw his HQ's right in front of my guns and acted surprised he lost them. I needed one more turn against him. I was going to turn something fierce. Whatever, I am just being bitter. Stupid table quarters fighting!

The Third guy ran Nids with a Tervigon (which I ignored, and he kept hidden behind cover.) He gave me 4 KP from the beginning with his spore mines, the I proceeded to slaughter his Genestealers and two of his Tyrant Guard fairly quickly. He also had a Trygon prime, three lictors and three Raveners that didn't get into the battle till late. A huge unit of Termaguants out flanked right onto my left and I proceeded to kill 25 of 30 in one turn. He also had two Hive Tyrants, A regular and a Flyrant) I got the regular Hive Tyrant down to one would, and killed the other one. But we drew on Killpoints, so we went to VP's I lost 671 out of 2497, he lost about 1300 points.

The top 3 at my store were:
1. Tyranids
2. Orks (me)
3. Imperial Guard

I played battlewagon orks and tabled 2 of my opponents, which was dumb on game 1. Lost first place to the nid player by somewhere around 5 points. Played him second game and we drawed barely, needed 100-200 points to have been minor victory in my favor, as we weren't able to get through all our turns based on how swarmy his army was.

Imperial guard cant make it so our 4th was ultramarine's! which gets to go.

Oh forgot the winners! Our victor had a Chimera heavy IG list with Inquisitorial allies. But he was mostly Guard. He had 64 Killpoints out of 72 possible, one of the nicest guys I have met playing 40K.

Our second place finisher had a DE list that was loaded up with Raiders. he annihilated a guy in 20 minutes today! He finished with 47 Killpoints.

Our third place had Blood Angels, he won on the last turn of round three by one Killpoint. He had 38.

Our 4th and fifth place guys had 37 and 35 Killpoints respectively.

Asgaurd Games Houston TX.

1. Loganwing Space Wolves (me, Jonathan Willingham)
2. Battle Wagon Orks (Sean, don't know last name)
3. Dark Eldar Dark Lance Spam (Anton Zaleski)

Well things ended all right but didn't start well... I played against the Dark Lance Spam list, won turn to go first AND he stole the initiative... well I got hit hard turn and it hurt, but managed to pull the minor victory.

After that, got major win then massacre.

Top 3;

1. Guard
2. Blood Angels
3. Ultramarines
5. Necrons

So close... I went into the third round tied for first with the Guard player. Unfortunately he got first turn, and plays Leaf Blower... Still took him four turns to Phase me so I call Morale victory!

3 minor victories earned my tau 4th place. I guess consistency paid off. Above me were

Nids with an insane day. I think he hit 74 points no one close.
CSM
IG

We had 16 peeps, fair mix of amies. and I wish I would of known that Eldar rangers get a +2 cover save in cover, I would of inflicted kroot to deny them the good cover spots. ... maybe next round, maybe next year.

Base Camp in Russel, MA.

1.) Orks - 58 VP

2.) Blood Angels - 54 VP (Me; I played against CSM, the winner and a very good Tau list)

3.) Blood Angels - 42 VP

This was actually my first tournament ever and I had a ton of fun. I'm definitely looking forward to round 2.

I pulled really tough opponents every round with tough armies. We had three guys go to finals out of mys tore last year, one guy got 4th over all, so we have a tough group.

1.) Horde Orks, 68 points, smashed pretty much everyone.
2.) Battlewagon Orks, 4th place last year in ard boyz, somehow managed to get enough points against me in the last turn of the game to to deny me a minor victory.
3.) Wolves (Me)

I had a great time, and some seriously good players from my store didn't make it.

Team San Diego is looking to represent in the semis! Glad to hear everyone had so much fun today.

Oh yeah, and we had just under 20 players.

The Inquisitive (Albuquerque NM)
1st Nids
2nd Ultramarine (Assault style list)
3rd IG Mech Company

1st passed his ticket to the semis and I landed in the 3rd Alt slot playing a dumbed down Logan Wing list... First time I have played since 2004 so I didn't feel too bad. I drew the IG Mech Company in 3rd place in the first round, and went from a small loss to being massacred by the Ultramarines in 2nd in the final round.

All around, it was a fun day.

The other store in town is running their tourney tomorrow so I may get another shot at it.

What store were you at?
I grew up in Dayton, live in Huber Heights until I moved further west after graduating from College there.

keeblerpowell wrote:I won with nids in Fairborn ohio.
Kevin Kirby took second with green skins.
I feel bad (forget the name of the third place fellow.) But he played Eldar.(great guy i just suck with names.


First round was orcs for me. This pretty much ended up being me being lucky and forcing him into a bottle neck. But this was a well played game and was lots of fun.

Second round was against Term marines. Bad reserve rolls for him and amazing Tervagon rolls for me were the swing in this game.

Third round was against mounted orcs. this went in my favor only because of the mission. He kills ones of my units and i get a 2 point swing when I kill one of his. If this was victory points straight up I lose. Because its funky fast unit scoring I win.

I had lots and lots of fun.


I think that at this point level Tervagons are a bit to strong when you can run them apart from each other and have more than one go off. These dudes were my life raft.




hope everyone had a great time.

Acardia wrote:3 minor victories earned my tau 4th place. I guess consistency paid off. Above me were

Nids with an insane day. I think he hit 74 points no one close.
CSM
IG

We had 16 peeps, fair mix of amies. and I wish I would of known that Eldar rangers get a +2 cover save in cover, I would of inflicted kroot to deny them the good cover spots. ... maybe next round, maybe next year.

Just find another store hosting it tomorrow and do it again!

Also, 72 points was the maximum if you got a 20 point massacre each game with 4 bonus points.

1: Tyranid
2: DARK ELDAR!!!!!!! (yea thats right I beat the system!)
3: Space Puppies


Syracuse NY

1st: Horde Orks
2nd: Battlewagon Rumble
3rd: Vulkan Marines(Me! )

I had really good games against Daemons and IG, and played the guy that came in second and managed to fight him to a minor victory(for him) that allowed me to sneak into third with a major victory +2 against IG in the third round.

The tournament was comprised of:

Orks
Orks
Daemons
Ravenwing
Codex Space Marines
IG
Tyranids
Tyranids

I'm actually happy with the way it turned out, since my buddy was the guy that came in first, so we both moved on to the semis. Luckily, Mannahin wasn't there to whoop my ass second round. See you in Bangor or Londonderry, boy!

How did you do? Massacre round 1, Draw round 2, Minor victory 3 = Tied for first and whole via VPs with just over 4900

Did you have fun? Had a balst

Did the whole thing turn into a massive argument about KP for drop pods (yes, I know they were fixed)? Nope, faced Mech Vulcan SM vs my Eldar Skimmer spam so round three was rather even.

Top lists for us were:

Mech Eldar (me)
Black Temple Pod spam
Melta Spam Vulkan SM

Wow it amazes me that in some places people are placing without going 3:0 and scoring all major victories.

SilentBob367 wrote:Asgaurd Games Houston TX.

1. Loganwing Space Wolves (me, Jonathan Willingham)
2. Battle Wagon Orks (Sean, don't know last name)
3. Dark Eldar Dark Lance Spam (Anton Zaleski)

Well things ended all right but didn't start well... I played against the Dark Lance Spam list, won turn to go first AND he stole the initiative... well I got hit hard turn and it hurt, but managed to pull the minor victory.

After that, got major win then massacre.

Hobbytown USA, Plano, TX.

1. Bugs
2. DAngel Multi-wing(me!)
3. Green Tide Orks

I would love to see your Loganwing @ Semi's . I'm going to go full Deathwing... tired of wasting points on high costing bikes

Round 1 Massacre +2 BP against Ork Biker spam, Round 2 was 1kSons spam which was also a Massacre +1. The Green tide orks completely owned me, but I managed a KP draw purely on amazing Helfire spam from my Terminator librarian. +1 BP. 54 points baby! Go Go DAngels!

Had a ton of fun at ard boyz. Our tourny had a lot of solid list.

Top 3 for us in Salt lake were,

1st Mech Eldar (me)
2nd Tyranids
3rd Space wolves

At the Game Kastle in San Jose, CA, 24 players:

1st: Tyranids (mine)
2nd: Horde orks
3rd: Dual-lash, 9 oblit Chaos

I massacred BA in round 1 (5 LRs, 2 Baals), massacred BA in round 2 (wipeout), and took a very cautious minor victory against the aforementioned dual-lash CSM (I knew what the overall points looked like behind me, so didn't need anything more than a Draw).

Picked up a couple boxes of Gargoyles, to try out something new.

Predator Games in South Houston, TX

1) Blood Angels (me)
2) Space Wolves
3) Tyranids

Massacred Orks and Chaos the first two rounds and pulled a minor win against a Pedro/Calgar Terminator Spam list the 3rd round.

Anthem Games, Tampa FL

1. CSM Mech
2. IG
3. Dark Eldar

I had a good time the first two games but had a lot of disputes the last game which was a damper. I was on the top table the 3rd mission -> my four lanraiders & two Baals versus 6x rhinos. I got to go 1st and over the course of five turns only managed to destroy two rhinos... So I lost & will not be playing in the semis this year. Had a really tough go the 1st turn vs. Salamanders but managed to pull a major. Really bad dice karma the last game losing 3 landraiders & both Baals. It happens.

G

Clthomps wrote:Wow it amazes me that in some places people are placing without going 3:0 and scoring all major victories.

It is hard to massacre in the first two missions if you play anyone decent.

1nids (me)
2csm(passed inv to 4th sm)
3csm

Tie vs Eldar round 1, plenty of victory points though. Major Victory vs Tau round less than 70 pts from massacre!. Minor loss (7 pts)vs marines round 3 ( Darn KP's)

I played battle wagons and burnas. Took 4th, first ever tourney it was fun! Played 3 new people. I made some mistakes, last game I forgot to re-roll dangerous terrain tests.....demobilized 1 wagon with a rolla and a truck round 1.

Oh, well, live and learn. Anyone reading this I played, thanks for the games at SnG in CDA.

Oh first place was leaf blower guard. 2nd nids, 3rd was tau. I rolled the tau player round 2, he rolled 2 of his opponents, including another ork wagon list. Good for him!

1: CSM (passed his inv to Imperial Fists player tied for 3rd)
2: Eldar (me)
3: CSM (my brother)

Had a great day. I got waxed the first game (I had a feeling I would, I took too few troops, but I was willing to sort of throw away the first game or risk trying to table the guy - didn't work out so well against his 3 Zerker squads and 2 plague marine squads). Then, I got two massacres back-to-back against BA, then Guard.

Glen Burnie, MD @ Games and Stuff

I took first with a Mechanized BA list. As I hoped, I ended up facing a Mech IG list in the third scenario, and I ended up taking him 42 KPs to about 12-15.

Chaos got second, and I forget who got third.

There was no drama at all. Play proceeded very well.

Game Empire Phoenix AZ 20+ Players
#1) Mech IG
#2) ?
#3) ?

I was thinking about playing Nids but I have been really busy and could not finish them, so I broke out the old standby…Foot Eldar.

Round 1 I play against the one of the best players I have played against here in Phoenix (Mundar on Dakka) and his 70 jump pack blood angels and Draw.

Round 2 I massacre a Space Wolf army.

Round #3 I massacre a Tyranid army.

I end up with 58 battle points, and I had the most VPs at 6500, but it was only good enough for 5th place. It looks like in most of the stores that was good enough to win, but not in mine.

Village Games, Anoka, MN

IIRC, the top 3 were:

1st: Blood Angels - never saw his list, but apparently he managed some good victories, even in the one that handicapped him.
2nd: Space Marines - never actually finished a game, but managed a Minor, a close Draw (which would have been another Minor given another turn) and a Massacre when he went up against a 40+ KP Dark Eldar army.
3rd: Orks - I believe it was a horde list, though it was hard to keep track, given that there were 3 of them.

I came in 4th with a Space Wolves list - which was pretty good for it being the first tournament I ever attended (and only having played a handful of games in the leagues prior to the tourney). My games were:

Round 1 - Fought the resident Dark Eldar player, who has raised the army to an art form. Managed to scrape up a Draw, which was partly because he forgot we were playing objectives and only had time to grab one before time was up.

Round 2 - Faced off against a balanced Ork list running Nob bikers, some Boyz, and a Nob squad led by Ghazghkull. I got a really lucky first turn and toasted one of his Battlewagons, taking out a good chunk of boyz in the explosion. Then his Bikers proceeded to wipe out my heavies one at a time, though I did actually beat him by 200 VPs, ending the game in a Draw.

Round 3 - Went against the sole Sisters of Battle player in the tourney. He fought valiantly, but luck was on my side - one of his units (Not sure what it was, don't know the codex at all) basically went nuts, charged my Dreadnought, and failed to do any damage throughout the entire game. My LRC with Wolf Guard did a lot of damage through massive amounts of gun (along with a Vindicator sitting next to it) and I eventually got him down to one squad left, most of mine intact. Though I lost all my vehicles (Giving him a 15 KP boost) all but one of my other units remained alive until the end, and I scored 26 KPs in the end.

Rivals Games in Hillsboro, Oregon.
1st: Space Wolves 55 points (Logan/Long Fang spam)
2nd: Blood Angels 54 points(Heavy Mech)
3rd: Me, Space Wolves 45 points(Drop Assault Force)

We had a decent turnout, and the venue was well organized. There were about 10 players ( we had a bunch drop last min), and there was only one TFG.

I had mission 1 vs Fate Crusher. This game was a slaughter fest. I dropped down on the objectives and was poised to make the mother of all assaults, and then I make the dumbest mistake of my life, and assault 4 crushers with a wolf lord (ss/fb) and 10 Skyclaws. That assault was painfull, but the wolf lord managed to hold his own for 2 & 1/2 turns. The game finished with me in an assault with his Daemon Prince, him winning the combat an being able to contest the objective. I held 2 objectives and he did to. Final score 13-12 me. VP's earned Me 1648, Him 1730.

Game 2 was vs Foot slogging Chaos Marines. This was by far the worst game of 40k I have ever played. The player was not the issue it was the fact that I went all reserves and only had 30 marines on the table until turn 4. The game came down to the fact that even though the chaos player had nearly killed me to the man, my assault squads, HQ's, tac squad, and 2 drop pods lived, and I got enough stuff of his to eek out a minor loss. The score was 14-8. VP's earned Me 748, Him 1386.

Game 3 was me vs Mech Eldar. This game went as bad as it could get for the eldar player. I was made to go first (first time of the night), and deployed my 30 Skyclaws on the board. Then it was my 2nd turn, and I had everything come down ( talk about making up for last game). The rest of the game was me killing his tanks, and him not having the ability to kill enough marines to win. We called the game top of turn 5. Final score 24-0. VP's earned a whole lot to not enough to matter.

I will post a battle report later.

Mattoon IL 20+ people:

1. Nids
2. Nids (me)
3. Dark Eldar

Great day. I had good tables and drew the right people.

At my LGS in Altoona,Pa it was
1. Josh- nids (tervi-gons???)
2.brad- fluff marines (awesomeness)
3.gary- Chaos (nurgle/khorne/kharne list)

i didn't do so hot but it was a blast i love any time i get to use my Chaos warbands (warriors of mayhem, world eaters, thousand sons, and Dark wolves)

I got Third Place where I live with Orks. My HQ was Thraka, I got small squads of Meganobs. A Mega Armor Warboss, I got Three Troops of boyz and everything transported by Trukk for speed factor. Some Deff Kopters and Lootas and a Looted Wagon With Boomgun. Anyway, I can get a $20 blister. I wanna know what to go for an HQ choice!?

MY first match was against Chaos Space Marines, I got a Minor Victory!
Second Match I was Against Space Wolves...got a perfect score!
Third Match I got massacred.

I am most likely not playing in the semi Finals so I wanna know what to go for and here is what I am thinking.

Space Wolves:

Logan Grimnar
Terminator Armored Rune Priest


Orks: - What I played with
Big Mek with KFF
Mad Doc

Battle Creek, MI

1st - Ultramarines - MoTF Dreadnought Drop Pod Spam(me)
2nd - Black Templar - Sword Brethren/Land Raiders
3rd - Chaos Space Marines - DP Lash Princess

Had a blast great fights every game. I massacred footslogging Orks the first round (24points), I had a draw with the Black Templar due to 8 melta weapons all in melta range (4 Multi-meltas, 2 Meltaguns, 2 combi-meltas) totally missing on turn one, it was unreal! (13points), and I had a draw with a really good Tau player (13points)

at ye olde hobby games in cinnaminson NJ:

1st:blood angel raider wall (me)
2nd: black templar raider wall (guy I drove to the tourney)
3rd: mixed bag orks

I played greenwing first round, he had something like a full company of marines and 2 dreds (he said it was dark angels 3rd company per story line). I had 5 land raiders. Dark angels needed to replace the whole company afterwards.

Game 2 put me against the mixed ork army that came in 3rd. He left both his hqs (zogwart and a SAG mek) out of units and i sniped them off turn 2. He really didnt have anything to threaten my tanks, he did have 10 nobs with pks (no painboy though), but they died after they nuked an immobilized raider in terrain. I only lost a raider and 2 attack bike squads, tabling him in return.

Game 3 put me against one of my clubmates that I had brought to the tournament. Between us we had 11 land raiders on the table. Between us, we killed 8 of those raiders, as well as 90% of each others armies. It was devastating, but on the last turn he pulled out a minor win by gunning down my librarian and killing a whittled down assault squad. I had enough of a points buffer at that point that i needed to lose bigger to fall out of first. I had 3 squads of attack bikes that cost me dearly mission 3, but did manage to kill 3 raiders in the bargain.

I'm kind of shocked to see this many Mech guard armies place this well. Those scenarios are probably the worst missions I've ever seen in 20 years of playing Warhammer games. They were definitely designed to screw Mech lists over (with mech guard being the most vulnerable) and clearly it didn't work very well. I would love to know how so many mech guard players won with such a massive disadvantage in that one scenario.

Because the player base has adapted to the rapid, sometimes absurd changes gw makes to the game system?


Nah, people don't learn.

Kasrkinlegion wrote: I would love to know how so many mech guard players won with such a massive disadvantage in that one scenario.

Reply: I gues it would be that leaf-blower is just a solid list. If you take something that is well rounded and has stuff to deal with everything then you walk into the last mission at the top of the hill anyway. The mission did hold them down but they could get around it. If they get the first turn and they have agerage or better rolls then they are still going to have a good chance of locking the game in their favor anyway.

I was supprised to see do much DE in the top of the lists. And to a lesser point I was happy to see so many mech eldar lists. A little fresh air me thinks.

Kasrkinlegion wrote:I'm kind of shocked to see this many Mech guard armies place this well. Those scenarios are probably the worst missions I've ever seen in 20 years of playing Warhammer games. They were definitely designed to screw Mech lists over (with mech guard being the most vulnerable) and clearly it didn't work very well. I would love to know how so many mech guard players won with such a massive disadvantage in that one scenario.

I placed second at the Portal, PA with mechanized guard. I played Gobstomp420 in game 3 with mech DE (he posted our results already)

TBH I struggled with the decision of what to play, but I've been playing mech IG for the last 4 years or so, and don't have another suitable army at the points level. After himm'ing and haw'ing over needing to completely revamp the list to fit the last mission, I decided to gamble on keeping it as is. In missions 1 and 2 mechanized was an advantage I feel, and if people stay mech, then game 3 should be mech players versus each other, which leads to a fairly equal KP playing field.

Game 1 was versus loganwing (the one that took first): drew with 12 points (and lucky to get that)
Game 2 was versus Pedro marines: Massacred with 23 points
Game 3 was versus DE Raider Spam: Massacred wih 24 points

I had a great day gaming as I typically do at ard boyz, I feel at least in my area since everyone comes expecting cheese lists, theres far less whining and people just play.

Game 2 and 3 my opponents rolled fairly poorly I must admit, especcially the DE in game 3. I don't feel better rolling would have saved him though once he failed the most important roll in a matchup of paper tanks with large guns: first turn. He was a great guy and a blast to play against, so I hope to run into him again. I'm hoping for some more interesting scenario's round 2.

And no, my mechanized guard is not leafblower. Its gun heavy, but nothing like the leafblower list except that it boasts lots of chimeras and armor in general.

Lost Legion Games & Comics, Beckley, WV

1.) Blood Angels (acsmedic)
2.) Tyranids (me)
3.) Tyranids (mike_houghton98)

Round 1 - Massacre Victory vs space marines, 5 objectives to 0, with all 4 battle points.
Round 2 - Minor victory vs tyranids (mike), 2 battle points --that one was tough!! our lists were nearly identical!--
Round 3 - Massacre Victory vs Blood Angels, 3 battle points

I had a great time, this is my first 'ard boyz tournament so it's really exciting that i placed in the top 3.

I have noticed that the 'Monster Farm' list for tyranids is showing up in many of the top lists, the missions were almost designed right down to the letter to favor tervigon spam w/ hive guard support. Just an idea. I have a list for the semi's that i'm playtesting that turns this one on its head, though.

-jvr

Black Blow Fly wrote:I had a good time the first two games but had a lot of disputes the last game which was a damper.

One note about your third game opponent: I never saw him smile the entire time he was there (a full 12 hours). I didn't really get the warm fuzzies from that guy at all.

Hi

Another Tau winner here (me). - I thought I would leave my orks at home this year and challenge myself

Second was Wolves, third went to Blood Angels.

The turn out was small, but many of us took silly lists.

Round 1: 8 Land Raider Black Templars
Round 2: 11 Dreadnought Blood Angels
Round 3: 6 Raider & 3 Ravager Dark Eldar - Last Year's Local Winner (I was on table one in the final round, but my opponent and I bludgeoned each other into a perfect 10-10 draw, allowing this player to slip past us both) - and I had 32 kill points at the end of turn 2 (8 skimmers, 2 HQ, and 4 units) and really enjoyed crushing last year's champ.

Needless to say, my 6 railguns worked overtime!

Cheers,
Carlos the Craven

Yeah Lorek I agree and I really appreciated your help with his whacked rules interpretations. You did an excellent job as the TO. : ) My dice rolls on the AP table were horrible the last game so I have to hate on Lady Luck today. My other two opponents were pretty cool. The IG player had a very solid list.

G

At Sarge's Comics, in New London, Connecticut:

1st Place: Eldar (me!)
2nd Place: Chaos Marines
3rd place: Necrons

It was a pretty good turnout - 13 people, a little less than we normally get for our tournaments

My army was kind of silly, since I had to take every model I own to get to 2500 points, but I had lots of tanks, bikes, and Aspect Warriors. I never, ever, table anyone, ever, but I somehow tabled every opponent yesterday (expect in the 1st mission, when I left one drop pod alive to score max points) and ended up with 70 points. 2nd place had 47. So, yeah, I had one of 'those days.' I never have one of 'those days.' But I'm not complaining!

We had:

1 Space Marines
2 Blood Angels
1 Space Wolves
1 Black Templars
1 Chaos Marines
1 Chaos Demons
1 Necrons
2 Eldar
1 Imperial Guard
1 Tyranid
1 Sisters of Battle

The third mission was awful. Just absolutely awful. I had to table my opponent (Tyranids) if I wanted any chance at winning. My brother (with Black Templars) almost annihilated the Chaos Marine player and still got massacred on Kill Points. So, poo on the third mission, but hooray to everything else!

Kasrkinlegion wrote:I'm kind of shocked to see this many Mech guard armies place this well. Those scenarios are probably the worst missions I've ever seen in 20 years of playing Warhammer games. They were definitely designed to screw Mech lists over (with mech guard being the most vulnerable) and clearly it didn't work very well. I would love to know how so many mech guard players won with such a massive disadvantage in that one scenario.

Apparently you haven't seen the 70-100 killpoint Dark Eldar lists; I'm flabbergasted to see any of them placing. =p

Randolph, NJ


1. Foot BAs (Me!)
2. Jump Pack BAs w/ Mephy
3. Tau



Was a fun tourney, the third scenario gave me a Major Victory because of only giving up 1 or 2 KPs max.

houston, fat ogres

1)horde orcs
2)my wych cult raider spam
3)mech ig

Fourteen of us mostly very close games I got second by 2 points and between 9th and 5th place their was only a 4 point difference.

Not a shocker with mech lists. If the final match up had two mech lists paired against each other, it's kind of a wash regarding the KP. It can get really lopsided when there's a fully mech list vs a foot slogging list. I can foresee mech lists doing quite well in missions 1 and 2, and then face off against another mech list for mission 3.

First match for me:

Store owner filling in a spot.

Orks, I took out half his battle wagons turn 1, the other two managed to take out Yriel, 5 warlocks, 4 serpents, a vyper, and 6 walkers... talk about a bad day...

Cool guy. I squeezed out a major victory, with 2 of the battle points.

Last match:

Cool guy that sounded just like Eric from that 70's show...

I massacred him, 21 KP's to 9 KP's. All the battle points ^^

This was the best match of the night...

Second match:

...I really should have said something, this player took first.

He constantly cheated with things from reserves rolls, to hitting and wounding, he was triple my age.

My friend who was being a pest while spectating, also saw this.

I called him on many things, though I gave up, I might have been able to place in the top 5th if he had cheated less, maybe even 3rd if he hadn't cheated at all.

First comment he gave to me:

"Those bases are illegal" because I happened to be using small bases for my vypers...

No one else had a problem with it...

Turn 3, a mycetic spore comes in, it was a styrofoam egg painted purple and brown... he was also using a carnifex as a tervigon.


Game two ruined my 'Ard Boyz experience, game three redeemed the 3 hour trip.

I was also late when my friend woke up 11:45, when we planned to leave at 11. They waited for us though.

Sarigar wrote:Not a shocker with mech lists. If the final match up had two mech lists paired against each other, it's kind of a wash regarding the KP. It can get really lopsided when there's a fully mech list vs a foot slogging list. I can foresee mech lists doing quite well in missions 1 and 2, and then face off against another mech list for mission 3.

Heh, that's exactly what happened with me. Round three was hot and heavy Mech on Mech action.

I had a really tough game against Daemons in round one. Deep Striking everything is a handy advantage in a 5 objective mission! Oh, and I really hate the Fateweaver... I won though.

18 people showed up at Agents of Comics in Wichita, Kansas (regional store, we get players from Oklahoma as well):

1st place: Me, Loganwing (58 pts)
2nd place: imweasel, mixed mech Space Wolves (57 pts)
3rd place: BA Maximum Overdrive variant (55? pts)

No Dawn of War for the entire tournament and the S3 mission really made me re-think bringing my guard. I didn't see any real reason not to use a non-mech gunline, so the 'meta' altered my thinking there. I would have brought mech guard otherwise.

Unfortunately neither I nor imweasel will be able to make the R2 semifinals due to scheduling conflicts, so we had to pass our tickets to 4th and 7th place, playing Vulkan and Mech Marines respectively.

we had 15 show up to The End Game Center in VA. I ended up having to run the tournament, so I couldn't play :( Top 3 were:

1. Mech IG
2. Mech IG
3. Vulkan SM

I had a great time playing at The Bookery in Fairborn, Ohio. Thanks To Charles Kidd, KevinKirby, and Starbomber109 for some wicked fun games.

The Standings were:

1. Keeblerpowell with Nids
2. KevinKirby with Deffwagon Orks
3. Me with Mech Eldar
4. Bachus248 with Shrike Terminators
5. Starbomber109 with Deffwagon Orks
6. Charles Kidd with Deathwing + Ravenwing sprinkled in.

I Massacred Charles Kidd in the first round by putting all my transports in the way of his advancing 40 Terminators and strung 2 squads of Dire Avengers across 4 Objectives.

I got Massacred in Round 2 by KevinKirby. From the get go I was losing 1-2 grav tanks to his two full Loota squads. He had them placed behind his army so I couldn't get to them in time to stem the damage he was doing per turn. Also didn't help that out of 2 Bright lance Wave Serpents and 3 Fire Prisms I could not get a damage result more than Crew Shaken over 5 turns until turn 6 when my last Bright lance popped one of his Deffwagons. Still a fun game.

I Massacred Starbomber109 in Round 3 he ran a list very similar to KevinKirby’s so the mistakes and trials I just went through were fresh in my head. I was able to take his lootas out by turn 2 and was able to pop his deffwagons by turn 4.

All in all I had a great time.

Monster Rain referred to our results - I was the horde ork player who took first in Londonderry NH (semi horde actually, I only have 115 footsloggers - the rest of my points are in kanz, lootaz, nobz and wagons). 3 good games and 3 good opponents.

Regarding mech and their apparent success, I think the victory point preservation side of mech and the inherent advantage that gave them the edge in scenario two. Basically, I think Mech armies did so well in round 2 that they were likely playing each other in round 3.

Not that it happened that way with me, but only by the grace of Gork. Round 2 I was up against a battle tank formation of IG. Spearhead victory points is probably the worst thing that can happen to my orks. I got lucky with a few leadership tests and was able to charge his tanks turn 3 with much-reduced mobz and shut down his shooting.

The dreaded over-powered deffrollaz accounted for GASP - a single lascannon from a vendetta in my first two games. It was at its best in round three against some other orks - I blew up a battle wagon and 3 kanz with them.

Droofus wrote:Regarding mech and their apparent success, I think the victory point preservation side of mech and the inherent advantage that gave them the edge in scenario two. Basically, I think Mech armies did so well in round 2 that they were likely playing each other in round 3.

I think this was the conclusion drawn by many people before 'Ard Boyz. If S3 had been S1, there may have been a much greater impact. As it was, mech lists rolled over S1 and S2, and went on to play other mech lists S3.

Here at Guardian Games Portland:

1st Place: Blood Angels (me)
2nd Place: Mech Guard
3rd Place: Crimson Fist
4th Place: Witchhunters

I had Brought a mix of Dread and Assault Marines with a Large Foot DC BA.

I came in 6th out of 22 players with my mech guard. First mission minor victory, second mission massacre, and last mission minor loss. The last mission I killed 1600 points of his army and he killed 1050 of mine, but because of the kill point scenerio(51 kp) he beat me by 1 kill point. It was my friend that beat me and he placed 1st so its still a win to me.

I am glad to see Nids dong so well in so many stores. They are my next army sort of by default (I have won a bunch of Nid stuff in tournies) and I am happy to see people winning with them.

I am very curious to see how things pan out in the Semis.

For those in SoCal, are the Semis going to be at GMI Games? We are trying to figure out where we are going?

Mega Games and Comics in Gainesville, FL.
1. Orks walking 2 squads of nobs in trukk and wagon, snikrot and 3 koptas
2. AV heavy deep strike Nids
3. Really weirdly mixed tank heavy guard

I finished 5th with mech guard. Our store was pretty well run by 2 of the local regulars. There were some wrong rule calls by the refs but what can you do.
Game 1: I played a mixed MC and stealers nids. Played pretty poorly and faught my way back to what I though was a Tie until his "count as tervigon" carnifex just happened to be right at 3 inches from an extra objective. minor loss. +2 bp
Game 2: I played a fast attack Space Wolves army. Tabled him minus 1 rhino massacre +4 bps. Ended up in First place at the end of 2 rounds
Game 3: Played the Orks who won first. Setup horribly. Did exactly what I said I wouldn't and instead of focusing on the nobs round 1 mainly shot the mobs. Didn't end well. He was rolling all 5-6 on saves the whole game. massacre loss +1 bp.
Expecting to see more "walking" armies I took Colossus and lost some of my long range AV punch. Hurt me in the end. One thing that bothered me at the end of the day was how the seeding is done in round 3. I can understand round 1 random, 2 you play someone who did well as you in round 1. But penalizing players for doing well at the end of 2 by playing other top ranked people means likely 1/2 of the top people in the first 2 rounds won't make top 3, is that always how ard boys seeds? Also bothered me that several people who didn't do well in the first 2 rounds bailed for round 3 or threw the games and thats how the 3rd place guard got in. A SW player gave him the game and every BP. I think that is just as poor sportsmanship as cheating.

Played with my Tyranids and won 3rd. Very fun games.

Our top 3,

1. Tyranids
2. Orks
3. Tyranids (me)

Janthkin wrote:At the Game Kastle in San Jose, CA, 24 players:

1st: Tyranids (mine)
2nd: Horde orks
3rd: Dual-lash, 9 oblit Chaos

I massacred BA in round 1 (5 LRs, 2 Baals), massacred BA in round 2 (wipeout), and took a very cautious minor victory against the aforementioned dual-lash CSM (I knew what the overall points looked like behind me, so didn't need anything more than a Draw).

Picked up a couple boxes of Gargoyles, to try out something new.

Yeah just barely got second, second missions screwed me badly. They pitted the 2 biggest armies against each other in that mission. we were both playing fast but he had as many models as I did plus tanks. But I do have to say that 'ard boyz this year was much better than last year, had awesome opponents every round, and none of the shenanigans that happened last year at game kastle. Oh but the prizes were annoying, couldn't pay the difference on it so no wave serpent Lookin forward to semis again

I was in second place over-all with a dual landraider chaos list. The list in itself was unusual from normal chaos lists but it worked well as at the end of round 2 i was in second place.

Then i played the first place guy who was running a 9 broadside tau list. The board i played on had all area cover and nothing that i could hide behind that would block line of sight. All of my transports were killed turn 1. It was by far the most ridiculously one sided game i have ever played. I ended up taking 5th overall as i was completely destroyed.

If i had played on any of the other boards at the tournament i would have actually had a good match, but instead i instant lost. The tournament overall was fun, but the end game being so ridiculously one sided with no chance for me to even attempt to win left a very bitter taste in my mouth.

Wow. Stoked to see nids win so much. The third scenario have anything to do with that? Either way. its good to see bugs win.

Nids have a pretty big advantage in VP missions as well. Nids can get half points from every squad they reduce below 50% or immobilize a vehicle, but only give up points if a MC dies. S2 and S3 were both very friendly for good Nid players.

So at my local store I took 1st with Eldar. It turned out like this:

1st: Eldar (me)
2nd: Lysander Marines
3rd: Farsight Tau

I took a horrible list but played well so did okay. I only started playing again after 8 months about 10 days ago so I made some serious mistakes or would have done much better. I only had 51 battle points, luckily the fact that players were very well matched prevented anyone from really coming out on top, most rounds were minor victories. I had help that someone with two major victories was massacred in the last round and went to 4th. I also massacred in round 3 which pushed me to the top.

At my place of gaming it was

1. Daemons
2. Tyranids
3. Wolves
4. Guard
5. Guard (Me)
6. Blood Angels
Dont remember past that.

First and third players didnt want to go to semis so the honor was passed down to myself and the 4th place player. Yay... Im not going to take mech guard to the semi finals, it made me too jittery and scatter brained...

Omaha, NE - Game Shoppe

1) Mech Guard (4 Vendetta List)
2) Nids - big bugs
3) ? Not sure but think it was SM variant

And why don't I know you ask?

I got the bye on the last round . . . So out of 16, I was unlucky 13th.

Each squad had the potential of knocking out tanks/vehicles, but the dice were not kind.

Probably would have done better with my 2500pt list of Tau.

Rivals in Hillsboro, OR.

1st - LF missile spam SW
2nd - Mech BA (me)
3rd - Drop Wolves (rednekgunner)

Great opponents, no issues.

Game 1 was nearly an autowin for me, as I went 2nd w/plenty of fast vehicles to contest.

Game 2 was a tense bloodbath against a 6-predator mech BA list.

Game 3 I massacred a Vulkan mech list which had 12kp more than mine.

HQ
Edrad = 210
5x Warlocks w/ spears, 1 Enhance, 1 Embolden = 160
Wave Serpent w/ BL, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 155
Autarch w/ fusion gun = 80

Elites
5x Fire Dragons = 80
Wave Serpent w/ EML, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 140
5x Fire Dragons = 80
Wave Serpent w/ EML, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 140
5x Fire Dragons = 80
Wave Serpent w/ EML, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 140

Troops
5xDA = 60
Wave Serpent w/ Scatter laser, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 135
5xDA = 60
Wave Serpent w/ Scatter laser, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 135
5xDA = 60
Wave Serpent w/ Scatter laser, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 135
5xDA = 60
Wave Serpent w/ Scatter laser, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 135

Heavy
3x Warwalkers w/ 2x scatterlasers = 180
Fire Prism w/ spirit stones, shuriken cannon = 135
Fire Prism w/ spirit stones, shuriken cannon = 135
Came in 5th out of 18, 2 pts away from number 4 spot, 4 pts from number 2/3 spot (it was tied), and about 10 from number 1.

1st battle vs. SMurfs
Major Victory for me. I had about 400 more kp than my opponent, so he put up a good fight (and also ended up in the 4th place spot...). I ended up winning the game by DAVU-shocking him off of the objectives on the last turn of the game.

2nd battle vs. ork swarm/hordes
Major LOSS for me. Spearhead deployment against a 192 model ork swarm? By turn 2 I was literally surrounded. In fact, I spent most of the game trying to fight my way out of the corner. Everytime I opened a hole, it was filled back up by the horde. Fire prisms proved to be absolutely useless (which is bad, because I expected them to save me in the (what I thought was an unlikely) event that I went up against a horde army. Everytime I fired the pieplate, at a unit which would have taken a brutal punishing blow... it scattered about 8" to the right... into a unit of ork nobz, which got a nice 4+ cover save, PLUS they had cybork bodies... Can you say I didn't really kill all that much? Yeah...

In the end I missed getting the minor loss (and possibly 3 place) by about 20 pts...

3rd battle vs. blood angels
Massacre for me. I claimed 18 killpts, and I only gave up 9 (2 of which were fireprisms... yeah, those actually ended up being the weakest link in my list, 1 survived the second game... somehow.... but thats about it)...

New World Games & Comics, OKC

1) Mech Eldar
2) SW World Wolf army (I think)
3) Massive Horde Ork army (240 models)

I did not play, but got to watch some increadible games. 14 players started 12 were able to stay to finish.
Round 1 had only one Major and one Draw every other game was a Minor.
Round 2 hurt a few players but it was still fairly close.
Round 3 had some straight out massacres and some tight games.
The Horde Ork was impressive just to see, had almost no speed and lost less than 1000 points in each off his games.

Played Sunday at Ancient Wonders in Tualatin, OR.

Brought my Sisters with Guard Allies. Got 6th.

Top 3
1) Demons
2) Foot / Mech mix Wolves
3) Eldar

Massacred my first opponent. Khan bikes with LR and a couple tac squads.

Tied a Mech Dar with bike council and foot council. Great guy, tough game.

My score at this point put me on the top table against Daemons.

Got WTFPWND by Daemons. Like seriously. I know I haven't played against anyone but people at my house in a while, but I just did not know how to deal with Daemons. Add to that a person with the rules knowledge and precision I last saw in Ragnar, and I ate some serious death.

Highlights. Changeling having my vets drop 3 meltas and a demo on my Canoness and an Exorcist killing another Exorcist.

Venue was VERY hot and stuffy, but three games against three armies that I don't get to play normally made it fun.

And now I know how I'd deal with fast daemons next time (no crushers, 4 heralds, 3 Fiends, 1 dogs, 3 DPs, ouch)

MikhailLenin wrote:Here at Guardian Games Portland:

1st Place: Blood Angels (me)
2nd Place: Mech Guard
3rd Place: Crimson Fist
4th Place: Witchhunters

I had Brought a mix of Dread and Assault Marines with a Large Foot DC BA.

Love the WH there...

My store:
1st - CSM
2nd - Tau
3rd - Orks (bikers)

I think the breakdown for mine was.

1st. Chaos Marines
2nd. Marines
3rd. Orks

I took fifth with Marines, but afterwards we found out my first opponent had an illegal list and was over the points limit. I would have taken 3rd had the catch been made early enough. It was very close over all. 1st and 2nd was a tie breaker by victory points, and 4th and 5th was as well.

First game was against Abbaddon and Kharn leading 80 Berserkers. I pulled a Minor Victory.

Second was against the Orks. He had a maxed out Nob Bike Squad, Mega Armor Nob Squad, and about 120 boys. Minor Loss on that one.

Third was against a very balanced Chaos Marines army. Started off strong with a solid massacre in the first half of the game, then the dice went to hell on me and ended with a Minor Victory.

sourclams wrote:Nids have a pretty big advantage in VP missions as well. Nids can get half points from every squad they reduce below 50% or immobilize a vehicle, but only give up points if a MC dies. S2 and S3 were both very friendly for good Nid players.

Not here to discuss rules, but that's incorrect. An MC gives up half points if it is reduced to half of its wounds or below - pg. 300, BGB (unless there was a section I missed in the Scenario rules. . .).

Its nice to see Tau doing well.
1) BA
2) Black Templar
3) Orks (me...missed 2nd by one point)

Most tourneys I either suck really bad or I get really close to third.

Nice to see the cries of "OMG NIDS ARE WEAK AND WON'T DO WELL AT 'ARDBOYZ" being proven wrong.

Played at Avalon Comics and GAmes in Silverdale, WA

1) SW - me
2) Chaos Marines
3) BA

played at gamers inn, mesa, az

Placed 1st with Mech IG - 1st rd -BA 24 bp (2500 vp) 2nd - SM White scar 23 bp (2400 vp) and 3rd rd- DE raider spam 23 bp (2200 vp)
- 70 bp final and 7100 vp

My List
had Commander with chimera with 4 Plasma guns and astro and officer
Inquisitor Lord with 3 mystics and acolyte
Infantry platoon - platoon command with auto cannon and 4 platoons with chimera/auto cannon/melta and 1 commissar
2 vets with 3 flamers and demo
vet with 3 plasma sgt lucas and chimera
5 ratlings
3 vendettas all separate
manticore
2 leman russ with lascannon
1 leman russ with HB

alot of good players but not to bad for me

final there i belive was 1st Me (IG) then 2nd -BA and 3rd -Orcs

Played at Sci-Fi City in Orlando

I tied for 3rd with my Templars with a 60 man jump troop BA army. I lost the tie breaker on VPs. Got bounced by a c*nt hair. However, the player that took first can't make it to the Semi Finals, so I still ended up qualifying anyways.

Placings went like this:

1. Foot Orks
2. Khornate Daemons
3. Jump pack BA tied with BT

Revised placings based on player 1 passing his ticket to me.

1. Khornate Daemons
2. Jump Pack BA
3. Black Templars

Fateweaver wrote:Nice to see the cries of "OMG NIDS ARE WEAK AND WON'T DO WELL AT 'ARDBOYZ" being proven wrong.

Surely getting a free massacre against most mech armies in the third scenario had nothing to do with this.

Danny Internets wrote:

Fateweaver wrote:Nice to see the cries of "OMG NIDS ARE WEAK AND WON'T DO WELL AT 'ARDBOYZ" being proven wrong.

Surely getting a free massacre against most mech armies in the third scenario had nothing to do with this.

Which is a slight advantage at best. Even if you get a single massacre, you dont get in by getting annihilated in the other two games.

People will find any excuse to support this nonsense. Guess what? Anyone not playing nids (ex. Mech vs Mech) would have had an easy time getting massacres as well. Considering it seems like there were only a couple Nid players at each store, S3 shouldnt have affected the totals of most of the "top tier" armies and their tournament scores anyways.

Wargames LLC in Nashville TN

1. Dark Eldar (me)
1. Codex Marines Bikers (yep straight tie for first)
3. Space Wolves

Grand Adventures Comics Murfreesboro TN

1. Space Wolves
2. Chaos Daemons
3. Imperial Fists.

Night Lords wrote:Which is a slight advantage at best. Even if you get a single massacre, you dont get in by getting annihilated in the other two games.

People will find any excuse to support this nonsense. Guess what? Anyone not playing nids (ex. Mech vs Mech) would have had an easy time getting massacres as well. Considering it seems like there were only a couple Nid players at each store, S3 shouldnt have affected the totals of most of the "top tier" armies and their tournament scores anyways.

Getting a free pass for 1/3 of the tournament only constitutes a "slight advantage" in your mind? Reality check, please.

I agree that Mech vs Mech could score a massacre easily--another flaw with the mission. 7 killpoints over an opponent when 30-50 points are available is tiny, analogous to a 2-4 advantage in a normal game. Now play those numbers with 20 kp Tyranids vs 50 kp IG, or 65 kp DE. Slight advantage indeed.

I got 2nd with Blood Angels in Des Moines.

1st was Leaf blower internet list
2nd BA
3rd was Space Marines foot sloggers

My only problem was I faced Big Bugs round 1, and he got the int from me. Was abel to work out a draw, and then had minor win, and Massacure on next two rounds.

The Only game in Town in NJ

1st) Me (Therkorn) with Orks
2nd) Dan from Army of salvation with Guard
3rd) Nick Nanavati with Nids
4th) Orks hoard...

Huge pointed Nob mobs are strong in mission 3!

Complaining about the 3 mission crap

Let's not derail this thread with this crap again. We all get it.

In the Sudbury Ontario Ard Boyz

1st: Nids (me) 66pts
2nd: Tie DE and SM got 49pts a piece.

I massacred in the first round; tabling my opponent (BA) in round 3 and then got two solids in the next two rounds with all 4 bonus soft points. I tried to build a well rounded list (and succeeded i think) but even I will admit that the new Nids codex makes the bugs a bit ridiculous. I beat the 2 second place dudes in my next two matches (major victories with all 4 bonus points) and they were able to pull off massacres in their other games barely beating out the other competition.

Can't wait for the next round in Kingston

I played Hybrid Wolves, changed from 13 vehicle Mech Wolves due to last mission. Turns out I picked up more firepower, and with no DoW I had those Long Fangs pumping out shots from turn 1. Was a good day all in all, and thanks again to Above Board Games for some great tables/scenery, and comfortable (OMG I <3 good A/C) gaming.

Store Results:

1. Foot/Can Orks
2. Priest/Fang Wolves (me)
3. LR/Term Lysander SM


Round 1 - IG Leaf Blower

Started out real well, but around turn 3 the game kinda stalled. Both of our dice went to crap and it became more of a dance until turn 6 when we went for the last minute node grabs. Ended up pulling a minor here, because I thought that I required the shots from the guys inside my RB holding the center to finish of his squad contesting their node. Turns out I required about two more squads of guys since his cover saves were 90-95% on point. The light show from his unit that followed managed to finish the squad and cost me the contest for that one. End result 13pt minor for me.

Round 2 - BA Vind/Pred Spam

I all but tabled the opponent here. He had 3 Vinds, 3 Baal Preds, LRC+assault squad, some tac squads on foot with Lascannons, Walking CC Dread, and a Huge DC Jump squad with Meph flying with them. There was a large ruin in the center of the table, and I got to go first chosing the corner with a nice three story building to stack my Long Fangs in. None of his vehicles except one Baal Pred that wasted the game taking the long way around a flank to avoid the fire, and a vind with no weapons made it past midfield. When the nasty jump squad finally made it to me I rolled up 3 transports full of guys and proceeded to shoot the 90% of my army still up into that unit. They really shoulda let me add a crater to the scenery. End result 23pt massacre for me.

Round 3 - SM LR/Term Vulcan.

I would like to take full credit for this one. However I will have to point out here that there was a 3 story building about 2 ft long that would fit 3 of my transports as well as ALL of my Long Fangs across the top of it. Clear field of elevated vision to all but the very corners of his deployment. He had a building about half that size which would hold maybe 2 vehicles. My army was made for bunkering up while his was not so my gaining that vantage was the deciding factor in this. He decided to hold what would not hide in that building in reserve. I had placed half my vehicles out to make him decide if he wanted to go for them early or hope to make some good shots when his reserves arrived, and he chose the later. Rounds 2 everything but the DS terms and the Raiders comes in. His Speeders and Razors show up and pop 2 of my transports. The resulting barrage 21 + 2d6 hvy weapon shots coming out of that building killed all but one of his Razorbacks and it was stuck behind wreckage in the corner. The next round the terms show up and since I have the inside of the building packed up they port in out front hoping to weather the storm of fire, or hope that I focused on his raiders. With some good dice against the tanks for me and some horrible saves for him after my turn there was one raider and 2/10 terms still on the board. From then on it was his remaining guys in the building and his immobile landraider trading shots with my Longfangs. By the end though I had lost a couple 5 man squads, and all but one of my transports so he did the best he could with a crap situation. End result Major Victory 20 pts.

Ended up finishing second right under kartofelkompf (sp?), and will be heading to the Semi's again this year. Will probably be heading up to The Hobbit in NC again this year. Hope to see you there.

Caboose wrote:At my place of gaming it was

1. Daemons
2. Tyranids
3. Wolves
4. Guard
5. Guard (Me)
6. Blood Angels
Dont remember past that.

First and third players didnt want to go to semis so the honor was passed down to myself and the 4th place player. Yay... Im not going to take mech guard to the semi finals, it made me too jittery and scatter brained...

You're welcome.

Fateweaver wrote:Nice to see the cries of "OMG NIDS ARE WEAK AND WON'T DO WELL AT 'ARDBOYZ" being proven wrong.

no kidding. Seems like both orks and nids did very well, not as many IG placings as I would have though.

CaptKaruthors wrote:

Complaining about the 3 mission crap

Let's not derail this thread with this crap again. We all get it.

Why certain armies performed well is directly relevant to the thread. Complaining about complaining, however, is not. Perhaps follow your own advice?

I played in Delaware at the ice house. I'm really happy to see I'm the only sister’s player that placed. I've been playing 40k for about 4 months now so that’s cool. Allot of fun hope I do well in the next round.

1st Me with sisters of battle
2nd No idea
3rd space marines

Also someone asked a question or made a comment, about the 3rd mission.

I'm kind of shocked to see this many Mech guard armies place this well. Those scenarios are probably the worst missions I've ever seen in 20 years of playing Warhammer games. They were definitely designed to screw Mech lists over (with mech guard being the most vulnerable) and clearly it didn't work very well. I would love to know how so many mech guard players won with such a massive disadvantage in that one scenario.

If you look at it from a Mech list it goes like this. From what I’ve noticed about 40k the person with the tanks has a better chance of winning. Again I'm new to 40k so keep the nerd rage to a minimum. So wouldn't it make since that in the final round if the IG leaf whatever list is there he would be playing against another tank heavy list. The kill points don't really change anything. If they were trying to hurt Mech IG they should have made squadrons worth more kill points. Just my too cents, again I'm new to 40k so I could be way wrong on this. I had 48 kill points my opponent hat 39.

I mass all my opponents to it was allot of fun.

I played at Sci-Fi City in Orlando as well. Played this Blood Angels list:

Sanguinor
Reclusiarch w/ Combi-melta
Furioso Librarian Dread w/ Heavy Flamer, Might of Heroes, Blood Lance in Drop Pod w/ Locator Beacon
Corbulo
Sanguinary Priest
5 Assault Terminators w/ 4 Lightning Claws in Land Raider Crusader
8 Death Company w/ Powerfist, 2 Power Weapons in Land Raider Redeemer
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Blood Talons, Heavy Flamer in Drop Pod with Locator Beacon
10-man Assault Squad w/ 2 Flamers, Power Weapon in a Rhino
5-man Assault Squad w/ Meltagun, Power Weapon in Razorback w/ Twin-linked Heavy Flamer
5-man Assault Squad w/ Meltagun, Power Weapon in Razorback w/ Twin-linked Heavy Flamer


In testing, I was able to tie against Black Templars once, and I beat a foot logan list in the third mission by 5 kill points.


In actual play, I had a by the first round because I was the odd man out.

I faced a good Necron player in the second round, and it literally came down to his passing of 6 armor saves and passing his moral test, or I would have swepped him and phased him out. Considering I had no answer for Monoliths in a Victory Point mission, I had to throw everything at phasing him out. Without being able to phase him, I took a minor loss.

Second round I faced off against a Blood Angels list that was all jump troops (60 actually) and 9 Multimelta attack bikes. I had some bad rolls, he had some good ones. (like breaking out of combat with the MM attack bikes, regrouping in his turn and shooting up more tanks), and at the end of the game I still had a massive amount og KPs over him, however, he was able to kill me to the man at the very end of turn 6, giving him full points.

Needless to say, I will not be going to the semi finals.

SilentBob367 wrote:Asgaurd Games Houston TX.

1. Loganwing Space Wolves (me, Jonathan Willingham)
2. Battle Wagon Orks (Sean, don't know last name)
3. Dark Eldar Dark Lance Spam (Anton Zaleski)

Well things ended all right but didn't start well... I played against the Dark Lance Spam list, won turn to go first AND he stole the initiative... well I got hit hard turn and it hurt, but managed to pull the minor victory.

After that, got major win then massacre.

Now if only you had used a rune priest instead of your silly bob the inquisitor, you would have had 3 massacres! ;P

I tied for first at Battleground Games in MA. People that moved on were:

1) Me with Space Marines with Vulkan, Pedro, thunderfire cannons, 30 tac marines, 10 TH/SS termies, and the kitchen sink
1) IG with a good mix of infantry platoons and russes
3) Blood Angels

Danny Internets wrote:

Night Lords wrote:Which is a slight advantage at best. Even if you get a single massacre, you dont get in by getting annihilated in the other two games.

People will find any excuse to support this nonsense. Guess what? Anyone not playing nids (ex. Mech vs Mech) would have had an easy time getting massacres as well. Considering it seems like there were only a couple Nid players at each store, S3 shouldnt have affected the totals of most of the "top tier" armies and their tournament scores anyways.

Getting a free pass for 1/3 of the tournament only constitutes a "slight advantage" in your mind? Reality check, please.

I agree that Mech vs Mech could score a massacre easily--another flaw with the mission. 7 killpoints over an opponent when 30-50 points are available is tiny, analogous to a 2-4 advantage in a normal game. Now play those numbers with 20 kp Tyranids vs 50 kp IG, or 65 kp DE. Slight advantage indeed.

No, it's a slight advantage. Since you agree S3 was easy to massacre another mech army even if you were playing mech, I fail to see how the players playing in the other 95% of the games (playing non tyranids) were affected at all. You cant massacre one game and get into the top 3, and a Nid massacre against one player has no affect on maximum gain for any other player in the tournament.

Again, you agreed it was easy for anybody to get a massacre, so anybody who got one in S3 against a non Tyranid army would have an equal amount of points as any Nid player. It would then fall to the results for rounds 1 and 2, where tyranids had no advantage at all. Except, if tyranids were a weak codex like the ignorant keep claiming, that would surely mean that Tyranids would have a disadvantage, no? Why didnt the Space Wolves/BAs/IG who all got massacres in S3 against weak, non tyranid armies beat out the nids in points in S1 and S2?

The fact is, you dont get 60 points, even with a free massacre, by drawing or losing the other 2 games. If S3 made it easy for Tyranids, and ONLY Tyranids to massacre, then yes, it would be an advantage.

I played at Hero Zone in sandusky OH. It's kind of sparse on terrain but has lots of table space and some cool guys, though maybe not the best players. After I won the honors I donated my scratch built terrain just to get a little more interesting tables.

Last year's league tournament had 18 players and took place over about 3 months, with a game or three every monday night end results of this drawn out challenge was:

1) mixed mech/harlequin/gunline Eldar (mee!) 11/0/1

2) very fierce ghaz+boyz player 10/1/1 a very close second... fear the waagh... I just got lucky against him

3) drop pod heavy marines with 3 speeders 8/1/3

4th was the store owners carnifex heavy nids, who were pretty scary even before the new codex 8/2/2

5th went to space wolves... the player was kind of sub-par but his army kept him afloat

past that I don't remember who won what place. That FLGS has 18 players... 2 chaos, 1 BA, 1 SW, 8 nilla(is this common!?!?!), 1 nid, 1 guard, 1 tau, 1 ork, 1 eldar (mee!), 1 necron
I thought it was cool that some the armies that only are represented by one player did the best in the end. 1 Nid, 1 ork, 1 eldar all rocked the 13-14 MEQ the whole time (depending on if you count necrons as MEQ).

When the area is so stacked with MEQ you learn that more often than not you'll want you some plas and some power weapons, and get used to tailoring your list against MEQ, so it is kind of an unfair advantage - because they all tailor theirs versus MEQ too, so when they do get one of the wierdo Xenos players they don't know what to do. But there it is... don't be predictable I guess is the moral of this story.

San Luis Obispo, CA

1st: Chaos Space Marines (non-cult)
2nd: Daemonhunters
3rd: Dark Angels Doublewing (me)

4th: Ork Kan Wall
5th: Deathguard

Ozymandias wrote:San Luis Obispo, CA

1st: Chaos Space Marines (non-cult)
2nd: Daemonhunters
3rd: Dark Angels Doublewing (me)

4th: Ork Kan Wall
5th: Deathguard

O RLY?

List?

Played at Lost Legion Games in Princeton, WV (2 hours from me lol). 18 People attended.

1. Black Templars (4 LR with a bunch of super-termintators) 55
2. Space Wolves Cav 54 (me)
3. Salamanders (I think)

Very fun tournament.

Why certain armies performed well is directly relevant to the thread. Complaining about complaining, however, is not. Perhaps follow your own advice?

The topic of the thread was "How did everyone do?" not "OMG mission 3 still sucks", etc, etc. We get it. You don't like it. I don't like it. Nobody really liked it. If you want to bitch some more about it you can do it in this thead:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/295073.page

Hey I just wanted to point out how the makeup of the game community really affects the outcome and metagame analysis of which lists are best based on who comes in where. I won my tourney because I knew that I was playing against 3/4 MEQs, as did all the other xeno players who did well. It skews the analysis of 'which army does best?' when some game clubs have very predictable lists to play against. I think the only unbiased way of seeing 'who has the best codex' is at the big national cons where opponents aren't as predictable. If half the players are spamming rune priests and JoTWW (just for instance, or whatever flavor of the month codex is expected )then the other half already know to stay in their transports and plan accordingly when making a list. Sorry RP spam... too predictable, y'know?

Guitardian wrote:Hey I just wanted to point out how the makeup of the game community really affects the outcome and metagame analysis of which lists are best based on who comes in where. I won my tourney because I knew that I was playing against 3/4 MEQs, as did all the other xeno players who did well. It skews the analysis of 'which army does best?' when some game clubs have very predictable lists to play against. I think the only unbiased way of seeing 'who has the best codex' is at the big national cons where opponents aren't as predictable. If half the players are spamming rune priests and JoTWW (just for instance, or whatever flavor of the month codex is expected )then the other half already know to stay in their transports and plan accordingly when making a list. Sorry RP spam... too predictable, y'know?

This is known as the tailoring phenomenon. Exactly as you said, it works well at the local level but starts to fall apart the larger the sample you have. It stops becoming tailoring when you are adapting to 100 different players. Then it is called building an 'all comers list'.

As a side note, tailoring is often considered an anti-competitive crutch. Not for your opponent, but for you expanding your game and skills. Learning to take a flexible and adaptive list and then react to your opponent appropriately is one of the hallmarks of a true competitor.

Congrats to Ozymandias with hte Doublewing!! Very impressive that is.

G

Sorry, pretre, don't have his list. I'll ask on our local forums and see if I can get it.


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Ozymandias wrote:Sorry, pretre, don't have his list. I'll ask on our local forums and see if I can get it.

No biggie. Just surprising. Between a doublewing and a DH in the top 3, that turns 'conventional wisdom' upside down for list building. Although it does reinforce the more sensible player > list idea.

pretre wrote:

Guitardian wrote:Hey I just wanted to point out how the makeup of the game community really affects the outcome and metagame analysis of which lists are best based on who comes in where. I won my tourney because I knew that I was playing against 3/4 MEQs, as did all the other xeno players who did well. It skews the analysis of 'which army does best?' when some game clubs have very predictable lists to play against. I think the only unbiased way of seeing 'who has the best codex' is at the big national cons where opponents aren't as predictable. If half the players are spamming rune priests and JoTWW (just for instance, or whatever flavor of the month codex is expected )then the other half already know to stay in their transports and plan accordingly when making a list. Sorry RP spam... too predictable, y'know?

This is known as the tailoring phenomenon. Exactly as you said, it works well at the local level but starts to fall apart the larger the sample you have. It stops becoming tailoring when you are adapting to 100 different players. Then it is called building an 'all comers list'.

As a side note, tailoring is often considered an anti-competitive crutch. Not for your opponent, but for you expanding your game and skills. Learning to take a flexible and adaptive list and then react to your opponent appropriately is one of the hallmarks of a true competitor.

Hey I completely agree with you, and much prefer 'take all comers' games, but when a certain codex just gets released and gets spammed in the same predictable way over and over, it's very hard to fight the urge to think to yourself "maybe I WON'T be playing against Blood Angels/Space woves again this week"... Everyone knows about Codex creep. It's hard to play competatively against an army that hits harder, costs less and has more options than your own. In a friendly game with my brother I just take what looks cool. In a competative tournament, I look at it like this:

Player A has the advantage of shiney new cheesey broken codex
Player B has the advantage of knowing in advance that half his opponents will be spamming the same cheese out of said codex, yet has inferior options, overpriced units, etc... psychehammer. If you can predict who is going to jump on the latest spam list in droves it makes up for your outdated codex. It's not my fault half the players pick JoTWW and I saw it coming the moment the dex came out, any more it's their fault that I happened to load up on power weapons.

It IS part of the game on a tournament level, to predict your likely opponent's list. The only people I ever hear complain about list-tailoring are MEQ players... who usually have the GW favoritism advantage in the first place... Well tough gak buddy, next time bring something I haven't seen 10 times before and I won't be sitting here waiting for you with my powerswords.

If lists didn't get cheesed in the first place I would be MUCH happier to bring my take all comers army, but that's just asking to lose against spammy flavor of the month codex creep.

The psychology of the player, to me, is just as much a part of the game as what cool new toys he gets to abuse into spam'n'cheese sandwiches and how good a list he can make with the flavor of the month (usually spam'n'cheese flavor) Codex. If Everyone around me were playing guard, I would be dumb to make an army that couldn't mow down with dakka. If everyone around is playing assault termie rush, I would be dumb to not plan for that with appropriate alterations too. If everyone is doing nidzilla, or lash+lash+olblits, you get used to just knowing what you are likely to face. Not taking appropriate precautions in your list build is like trying to play chess without your queen. You have to use every advantage, including psychological insight into what you are up against. That's not being a bad player, it's meta-gaming.

Guitardian wrote:Not taking appropriate precautions in your list build is like trying to play chess without your queen. You have to use every advantage, including psychological insight into what you are up against. That's not being a bad player, it's meta-gaming.

There is a difference between taking precautions and tailoring. Tailoring generally means you tool for that kind of opponent. i.e. MEQ killer. The problem with tailoring is your narrow focus gets you killed when something weird happens, like maybe a horde orks army.

Taking precautions is just smart. If you know that you may face Psychic powers, why wouldn't you take a hood? If you know that people might shoot at you and stun your vehicles, why wouldn't you take extra armor?

I'm not arguing taking precautions. I'm arguing against tailoring for 1-2 armies.

Of course this will get very potaeto/potahto pretty quick, so I'll probably concede we're saying the same thing in different ways.

edit: Oh and the whole point behind a good 'all comers' list is that it can take all threats. Even 'spammy FOTM lists'.

Up in Sacramento, CA we had:

1. 100 foot berzerkers with Kharn
2. Dual nob Bikers
3. Tau (ME!!! )

My first round was a draw against the #2 player and a lot of fun.

Second was major victory against a somewhat hodge podge Marines

3rd was a massacre against a mixed ork army.

MrDrumMachine wrote:Up in Sacramento, CA we had:

1. 100 foot berzerkers with Kharn
2. Dual nob Bikers
3. Tau (ME!!! )
/quote]


How did 100 foot bezerkers deal with walkers?? or pie plate spam? Must have had some good matchups. Sounds like fun.