The Brits are definitely Eldar. The whole nose in the air 'im better than you and you're worthless except as a pawn' has Britain written all over it.

True i would say they were british cos they aren't the best when it comes to size but when it comes to things like tactical genius (Ill let someone else do the honours)

Eisenhower? Rommel? Schwartzkopf?

ugh, The Eldar are Chinese.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:ugh, The Eldar are Chinese.

We won? Bloody good show! Right ho Jeofry finish your tea and we'll go mutant fox hunting in my new landraiderrover! Also " From theemprah's mouhf to moi eah!"

Klawjaw wrote:

-Catachans: Americans from Vietnam war.

The catachans win wars.

I lol'd.

But what's with the hostility toward our American cousins, eh? ;P


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Klawz wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:ugh, The Eldar are Chinese.

I didn't know Monty Python were racists o.O

Luco wrote:The Brits are definitely Eldar. The whole nose in the air 'im better than you and you're worthless except as a pawn' has Britain written all over it.

True i would say they were british cos they aren't the best when it comes to size but when it comes to things like tactical genius (Ill let someone else do the honours)

Eisenhower? Rommel? Schwartzkopf?

Celts are eldar. The craftworlds are all named after old festivals and the eldar tongue is mostly modified gaelic and celtic.

Eldar are elves.

Rube wrote:

Shaman wrote:So going by that the eye of terror is the US..

Um, no! They're nothing alike. We're talking about a hellish nightmare realm of insanity and suffering, where grotesque and bloated monstrosities rule with an amoral disregard for all life! The Eye of Terror hasn't got anything on that.

Yeah! Eye of terror is Spain! the only place where monsters such Belen Esteban (and even worse that i don't dare to ment ) are popular, where the double of Mr Bean is president and society are growing slowed, in the best cases!.....

Henners91 wrote:Eldar are elves.

*ahem* You are quite mistaken, young fellow. I shall have you know that elves are not, and never have been, associated with Rainbow Parades. Now...

Henners91 wrote:

Klawjaw wrote:

-Catachans: Americans from Vietnam war.

The catachans win wars.

I lol'd.

But what's with the hostility toward our American cousins, eh? ;P


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Klawz wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:ugh, The Eldar are Chinese.

I didn't know Monty Python were racists o.O

They were racists FOR FUN.

I don't see where you think that Britian has won. After all according to all of the fluff I've read I've never seen a referance to a "Lory" but I have seen truck written a few times. I've never seen "boot" refer to anything except the things that cover your feet. There is only a small amount of swearing when even the grunts talk to eachother. They don't whine about not having tea in their field rations. The militarisitic zeal of the IG and the SM's is more inline, in my opinion, with the American mid-west then any place in England that I have heard of.

In Englands defence however I will say that they have given birth to some amazing things the first and best of which is of course America. They also invented the English language however, for some reason they refuse to speak it correctly. They invented the lager, even though they serve it wrong they still get credit. The Greeks invented boxing, the English made it into a game, America made it into a sport.

Oh, and according to GW and 40k, the year 2012 wasn't the end of the world!

KamikazeCanuck wrote:I'm going by Dawn of War were they are super-british.
So british that it took my hours to figure out "tankdaemprah" was "Thank the Emperor" in English. (British and English are different languages apparently).

Actually, british has no accent. There's the welsh accent, scottish, irish (northern ireland is part of britain too), that posh queen accent, liverpuddlian accent, yorkshire accent, budgey accent, cockney accent, basicly loads of accents in britain. And in britain scottish, most welsh, irish and english speak english, while %5 of welsh speak welsh. Anyway,

Valhallans: Soviet Russia red army, since they wear cold war stuff and use shear numbers
Vostroyans: Different sort of Russian army
Catacachans: American 'nam guerilla soldiers
Cadians: Any modern army, probably british judging by DoW accent+they say arse, got Usarkston Creedchill, plus they're crack shots (which the British army is, were not crap, ever heard of the Royal Navy? SAS? Ring any bells?)
Comissars: Soviet Russia. Who else executes their own men in spades? (In soviet russia, lasgun shoots YOU!)
Tallarn: Middle East
Tanith: Scottish
DKoK:WWI Germans
Preatorians: British Redcoats
Mordians: Not sure, probably nazis
Armaggedon: Those Nazis who worked at concentration camps (coz the gas mask is like what they used when they gassed the showers)
Attilan: Mongolians
Elysians: Not really any modern force, maybe a bit like any Western parachuters

And PLEASE, stop all the americans saying we drive on the wrong side! Your the ones who changed it when you declared independance from us, so we have more right to say who drives on the wrong side! (Just like you spell honour and armour and favour incorrectly, seeing as we INVENTED that language)


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Snowman90 wrote:Oh, and according to GW and 40k, the year 2012 wasn't the end of the world!

WHY IS EVERYONE AFRAID OF THAT?!

JUST BECAUSE THE INCAS MADE 10,000,000 PROFICIES AND 3 OF THEM CAME TRUE DOESN'T MEAN THIS ONE IS TRUE!!!!!!!


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ComputerGeek01 wrote:I don't see where you think that Britian has won. After all according to all of the fluff I've read I've never seen a referance to a "Lory" but I have seen truck written a few times. I've never seen "boot" refer to anything except the things that cover your feet. There is only a small amount of swearing when even the grunts talk to eachother. They don't whine about not having tea in their field rations. The militarisitic zeal of the IG and the SM's is more inline, in my opinion, with the American mid-west then any place in England that I have heard of.

In Englands defence however I will say that they have given birth to some amazing things the first and best of which is of course America. They also invented the English language however, for some reason they refuse to speak it correctly. They invented the lager, even though they serve it wrong they still get credit. The Greeks invented boxing, the English made it into a game, America made it into a sport.

You just used a stereotype that every brit hates.
I HATE TEA AND NOBODY I KNOW DRINKS IT!!!!
Plus, actually you refuse to speak it correctly. We speak English how it was made to be spoken, and the USA speak it differently. GET OVER IT. Plus, when you said about good inventions, you forgot to mention the car, the train, the lightbulb (Tom Eddison copied Joseph Swan's design and lost the lawsuit. Lasy fer) and the internet. And Australia. Yes, I think that was a good idea. Also, only 4 year olds say the word lorry. Plus all the best singers are British, we have the unique ability to make fun of ourselves, are women are smart and hardworking as well as good-looking without being made of plastic. And we don't blow up are own troops in combat. And beer wasnt a good invention, you know. Especially american beer. That stuff is horrible. Oh, by the way, I'm unique. An Englishman who praises his own country. USA is a great country too, by the way. (note how I said USA. NOT America. America is a continent, USA is a country)

in all fairness we invented the Automobile, so we get to say what side you should drive on

Grey Templar wrote:in all fairness we invented the Automobile, so we get to say what side you should drive on

Yeah, but the carts from England drove on the right side before America was colonised.
Anyway, who the hell gives a damn?


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You know, this thread is turning into a battleground to decide whether the British do it correctly or the Americans do it correctly.

felixthecat345 wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:I'm going by Dawn of War were they are super-british.
So british that it took my hours to figure out "tankdaemprah" was "Thank the Emperor" in English. (British and English are different languages apparently).

Actually, british has no accent. There's the welsh accent, scottish, irish (northern ireland is part of britain too), that posh queen accent, liverpuddlian accent, yorkshire accent, budgey accent, cockney accent, basicly loads of accents in britain. And in britain scottish, most welsh, irish and english speak english, while %5 of welsh speak welsh. Anyway,

Valhallans: Soviet Russia red army, since they wear cold war stuff and use shear numbers
Vostroyans: Different sort of Russian army
Catacachans: American 'nam guerilla soldiers
Cadians: Any modern army, probably british judging by DoW accent+they say arse, got Usarkston Creedchill, plus they're crack shots (which the British army is, were not crap, ever heard of the Royal Navy? SAS? Ring any bells?)
Comissars: Soviet Russia. Who else executes their own men in spades? (In soviet russia, lasgun shoots YOU!)
Tallarn: Middle East
Tanith: Scottish
DKoK:WWI Germans
Preatorians: British Redcoats
Mordians: Not sure, probably nazis
Armaggedon: Those Nazis who worked at concentration camps (coz the gas mask is like what they used when they gassed the showers)
Attilan: Mongolians
Elysians: Not really any modern force, maybe a bit like any Western parachuters

And PLEASE, stop all the americans saying we drive on the wrong side! Your the ones who changed it when you declared independance from us, so we have more right to say who drives on the wrong side! (Just like you spell honour and armour and favour incorrectly, seeing as we INVENTED that language)


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Snowman90 wrote:Oh, and according to GW and 40k, the year 2012 wasn't the end of the world!

WHY IS EVERYONE AFRAID OF THAT?!

JUST BECAUSE THE INCAS MADE 10,000,000 PROFICIES AND 3 OF THEM CAME TRUE DOESN'T MEAN THIS ONE IS TRUE!!!!!!!


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ComputerGeek01 wrote:I don't see where you think that Britian has won. After all according to all of the fluff I've read I've never seen a referance to a "Lory" but I have seen truck written a few times. I've never seen "boot" refer to anything except the things that cover your feet. There is only a small amount of swearing when even the grunts talk to eachother. They don't whine about not having tea in their field rations. The militarisitic zeal of the IG and the SM's is more inline, in my opinion, with the American mid-west then any place in England that I have heard of.

In Englands defence however I will say that they have given birth to some amazing things the first and best of which is of course America. They also invented the English language however, for some reason they refuse to speak it correctly. They invented the lager, even though they serve it wrong they still get credit. The Greeks invented boxing, the English made it into a game, America made it into a sport.

You just used a stereotype that every brit hates.
I HATE TEA AND NOBODY I KNOW DRINKS IT!!!!
Plus, actually you refuse to speak it correctly. We speak English how it was made to be spoken, and the USA speak it differently. GET OVER IT. Plus, when you said about good inventions, you forgot to mention the car, the train, the lightbulb (Tom Eddison copied Joseph Swan's design and lost the lawsuit. Lasy fer) and the internet. And Australia. Yes, I think that was a good idea. Also, only 4 year olds say the word lorry. Plus all the best singers are British, we have the unique ability to make fun of ourselves, are women are smart and hardworking as well as good-looking without being made of plastic. And we don't blow up are own troops in combat. And beer wasnt a good invention, you know. Especially american beer. That stuff is horrible. Oh, by the way, I'm unique. An Englishman who praises his own country. USA is a great country too, by the way. (note how I said USA. NOT America. America is a continent, USA is a country)

In my opinion, Americans don't speak English. We speak American. When i say that, everyone thinks I'm joking. I'm not. We don't speak english, we speak an American version of English. Thus I named it "American." That's just my view on it though.

felixthecat345 wrote:
Mordians: Not sure, probably nazis
Armaggedon: Those Nazis who worked at concentration camps (coz the gas mask is like what they used when they gassed the showers)

Get over this obsession with nazis.

felixthecat345 wrote:
And PLEASE, stop all the americans saying we drive on the wrong side!

Would it change if we, the continental europeans tell you: stop driving on the wrong side!
Would it?
Cause your really driving on the wrong side.....

felixthecat345 wrote:
when you said about good inventions, you forgot to mention the car, the train,....

Ok train, but CAR?
Keep on dreaming.
Driving on the wrong side and claiming others ideas.

felixthecat345 wrote:
Plus all the best singers are British, our women are smart and hardworking as well as good-looking without being made of plastic.

1) examples. 2) maybe no more funny looking pills 3)

felixthecat345 wrote: And beer wasnt a good invention, you know. Especially american beer. That stuff is horrible.

Egyptians had beer several thousands of years BC....
Plus everyone knows real beer can't be found on that foggy island north of us.

Klawjaw wrote:...the guards accents and speech are not only there because its sexy, but also to give an impression of the cultural divide between them (high and low gothic) and you cant do this with america because its a cultural wasteland.
If you had to fit the americans in theyd probably be the ultramarines..their not manly enough to be guardsmen.

I object, your honor.
We do have a culture, with such amazing things as beer, baseball, football (AKA Rugby with sissy pads), deep-fried anything, and butchery of the English language. We look to the rest of the world how Texas looks to us (Whether that's a positive thing... I can't really say.)

Henners91 wrote:But what's with the hostility toward our American cousins, eh? ;P

Jealousy.

felixthecat345 wrote:Actually, british has no accent. There's the welsh accent, scottish, irish (northern ireland is part of britain too), that posh queen accent, liverpuddlian accent, yorkshire accent, budgey accent, cockney accent, basicly loads of accents in britain. And in britain scottish, most welsh, irish and english speak english, while %5 of welsh speak welsh.

Yeah, but to us many of those sound the same. Hell, I only know Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Cockney, and Royal (Which is more than many people in the USA can say). It's probably the opposite way over there.

felixthecat345 wrote:Armaggedon: Those Nazis who worked at concentration camps (coz the gas mask is like what they used when they gassed the showers)

Those gasmasks were also used on the battlefield. The Steel Legion does look a bit like the Nazis with the whole mechanized army thing, though.

felixthecat345 wrote:WHY IS EVERYONE AFRAID OF THAT?!

JUST BECAUSE THE INCAS MADE 10,000,000 PROFICIES AND 3 OF THEM CAME TRUE DOESN'T MEAN THIS ONE IS TRUE!!!!!!!

Not to mention December 21st 2012 is just the end of their calender, like December 31st is the end of ours. No, they didn't actually think it was the end of the world.

Also, it was the Mayans. The Mayans lived in Mexico, the Incas lived all the way down in the Andes. They also had very different cultures, government systems, etc.

felixthecat345 wrote:You just used a stereotype that every brit hates.
I HATE TEA AND NOBODY I KNOW DRINKS IT!!!!
Plus, actually you refuse to speak it correctly. We speak English how it was made to be spoken, and the USA speak it differently. GET OVER IT. Plus, when you said about good inventions, you forgot to mention the car, the train, the lightbulb (Tom Eddison copied Joseph Swan's design and lost the lawsuit. Lasy fer) and the internet. And Australia. Yes, I think that was a good idea. Also, only 4 year olds say the word lorry. Plus all the best singers are British, we have the unique ability to make fun of ourselves, are women are smart and hardworking as well as good-looking without being made of plastic. And we don't blow up are own troops in combat. And beer wasnt a good invention, you know. Especially american beer. That stuff is horrible. Oh, by the way, I'm unique. An Englishman who praises his own country. USA is a great country too, by the way. (note how I said USA. NOT America. America is a continent, USA is a country)

Just a few notes: Tea is a more common drink over there than it is over here. Edison improved Swan's design a considerable amount, leading to its general acceptance. We have plenty of self-deprecating humor (Even relegated to certain states. What do Iowan cheerleaders do at a football game? They graze.). The "being made of plastic thing" is laughable; our celebrity magazines do NOT show the general populace (do you see a general obesity trend in celebrity magazines? No.). And according to my father (I'm just a minor), beer is great.

America is a nickname, silly. Try saying United Statians. Sounds awfully funny, doesn't it?

1hadhq wrote:1) examples. 2) maybe no more funny looking pills 3)

Even as an American, I know the huge British influence on our music industry. Queen and the Beatles, anyone?

Grey Templar wrote:in all fairness we invented the Automobile, so we get to say what side you should drive on

Germans.

1hadhq wrote:

felixthecat345 wrote:
Mordians: Not sure, probably nazis
Armaggedon: Those Nazis who worked at concentration camps (coz the gas mask is like what they used when they gassed the showers)

Get over this obsession with nazis.

Its not an obsession with nazis, to me they look a bit like nazi soldiers if you paint them grey

felixthecat345 wrote:
And PLEASE, stop all the americans saying we drive on the wrong side!

Would it change if we, the continental europeans tell you: stop driving on the wrong side!
Would it?
Cause your really driving on the wrong side.....

Actually, now that I think of it no side is the wrong side. They're just different sides

felixthecat345 wrote:
when you said about good inventions, you forgot to mention the car, the train,....

Ok train, but CAR?
Keep on dreaming.
Driving on the wrong side and claiming others ideas.

Well, I meant the motorcar, which im pretty sure we did make but I dont know who made one first.

felixthecat345 wrote:
Plus all the best singers are British, our women are smart and hardworking as well as good-looking without being made of plastic.

1) examples. 2) maybe no more funny looking pills 3)

1)the beatles, queen, the clash, girls aloud, spice girls, pixie lott, florence & the machine, taylor swift, james blunt, the who, the rolling stones, tom jones, mika, susan boyle, charlotte church, I could go on you know 2) we're no way near as ugly as the media makes us out to be, plus in Britain the good looking people can still be smart and independent, ever heard of elizebeth hurley, cheryl cole (shes not under singers since she uses autotune), mylene klass, jennifer metcalffe, amanda holden, all the singers I mentioned (except susan boyle), etc, etc...

felixthecat345 wrote: And beer wasnt a good invention, you know. Especially american beer. That stuff is horrible.

Egyptians had beer several thousands of years BC....
Plus everyone knows real beer can't be found on that foggy island north of us.

I assumed that kamikaze was right when he said we invented it. Wait, he said lager, not beer. My mistake. Anyway, I never said we made good beer.


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felixthecat345 wrote:Actually, british has no accent. There's the welsh accent, scottish, irish (northern ireland is part of britain too), that posh queen accent, liverpuddlian accent, yorkshire accent, budgey accent, cockney accent, basicly loads of accents in britain. And in britain scottish, most welsh, irish and english speak english, while %5 of welsh speak welsh.

Yeah, but to us many of those sound the same. Hell, I only know Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Cockney, and Royal (Which is more than many people in the USA can say). It's probably the opposite way over there.

Yeah, in the UK we know their are lots of accents in the USA but usually think of it as alll 1 accent, even though we know about the new york accent, deep south accent, californian accent and all the rest

felixthecat345 wrote:WHY IS EVERYONE AFRAID OF THAT?!

JUST BECAUSE THE INCAS MADE 10,000,000 PROFICIES AND 3 OF THEM CAME TRUE DOESN'T MEAN THIS ONE IS TRUE!!!!!!!

Not to mention December 21st 2012 is just the end of their calender, like December 31st is the end of ours. No, they didn't actually think it was the end of the world.

Also, it was the Mayans. The Mayans lived in Mexico, the Incas lived all the way down in the Andes. They also had very different cultures, government systems, etc.

Yeah, I always get Mayans, Incas and Aztecs mixed up. And I didn't know about it not being a doomsday prediction because of all the things the media says.

felixthecat345 wrote:You just used a stereotype that every brit hates.
I HATE TEA AND NOBODY I KNOW DRINKS IT!!!!
Plus, actually you refuse to speak it correctly. We speak English how it was made to be spoken, and the USA speak it differently. GET OVER IT. Plus, when you said about good inventions, you forgot to mention the car, the train, the lightbulb (Tom Eddison copied Joseph Swan's design and lost the lawsuit. Lasy fer) and the internet. And Australia. Yes, I think that was a good idea. Also, only 4 year olds say the word lorry. Plus all the best singers are British, we have the unique ability to make fun of ourselves, are women are smart and hardworking as well as good-looking without being made of plastic. And we don't blow up are own troops in combat. And beer wasnt a good invention, you know. Especially american beer. That stuff is horrible. Oh, by the way, I'm unique. An Englishman who praises his own country. USA is a great country too, by the way. (note how I said USA. NOT America. America is a continent, USA is a country)

Just a few notes: Tea is a more common drink over there than it is over here. Edison improved Swan's design a considerable amount, leading to its general acceptance. We have plenty of self-deprecating humor (Even relegated to certain states. What do Iowan cheerleaders do at a football game? They graze.). The "being made of plastic thing" is laughable; our celebrity magazines do NOT show the general populace (do you see a general obesity trend in celebrity magazines? No.). And according to my father (I'm just a minor), beer is great.

I was actually refering mainly to the models, I know your not all like that. Especially as the USA is the fattest nation on Earth. Also, there seems to be an annoying stereotype among a lot of Americans that British drink tea and nothing else 24/7 when most of us drink about a cup every 2 days and we much prefer coke or beer. I'm a minor too, but as you can see on the news beer is killing people all the time and kills thousands of people a year. And all you get in return is a few brief periods of forgetting stuff and happiness, apparently. And Eddison, let's be honest, probably wouldnt have created the lightbulb if not for Swan. And I know you have some self depreciating humour but British humour is based around making fun of yourself.

felixthecat345 wrote:
Well, I meant the motorcar, which im pretty sure we did make but I dont know who made one first.

One of the inventors of automobiles: ( daimler, maybach, benz ):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottlieb_Daimler

felixthecat345 wrote:
1)the beatles, queen, the clash, girls aloud, spice girls, pixie lott, florence & the machine, taylor swift, james blunt, the who, the rolling stones, tom jones, mika, susan boyle, charlotte church, I could go on you know 2) we're no way near as ugly as the media makes us out to be, plus in Britain the good looking people can still be smart and independent, ever heard of elizebeth hurley, cheryl cole (shes not under singers since she uses autotune), mylene klass, jennifer metcalffe, amanda holden, all the singers I mentioned (except susan boyle), etc, etc...

You know quality is subjective.
I am sure you could go on, but spice girls? Maybe stop right there..
The media has influence, but your list could be the exception, not the rule so the media is still correct.
See, the singers you mentioned and good looking? Want to reword to female singers maybe?


Before this gets out of hand, let me move it to the subject of pre-heresy remembrancers. All of them from different places of terra.
Go find brits....

Or it probably has more to do with the fact that 40k is made by a company in on the British Isles, and therefor it is THEIR cultural bias that seeps into it.

@ Melissa: You seem to be missing the point of this thread, a title like "41st Millenium, the British won" is an invite to screw around.

@ 1hadhq: felixthecat345 might want to reword that but then again just look at Freddy Mercury, I mean come on... (This passes for humor in some parts of the US).

@ British Humor: Dressing in womens clothing and falling down can only get me to laugh so much. Most of our stand up comedians are catching on to an Americanized version of satire though and are doing quite well check out Bo Burnham for example.

Yes we all recognize that Thomas Edison was probably the first patent troll, you only have to know what he tried to do to Nicoli Tesla or Guglielmo Marconi to know that. But the man did take those ideas that would have fallen to the sideline never to be used and inject them into the main stream industry which none of the people who he took from had the resources to do.

British music influenced a lot of American, and American influenced a lot of British. The Blues, for example, were started here, and they were the ancestors of rock and jazz.

Freddy Mercury is a legend.

felixthecat345 wrote:Yeah, in the UK we know their are lots of accents in the USA but usually think of it as alll 1 accent, even though we know about the new york accent, deep south accent, californian accent and all the rest

Yeah, accents are funny things.

I remember on a trip to New Zealand, I thought the accent sounded like an Australian accent. Then I actually went to Australia. Turns out the two are nothing alike. And there's probably plenty of different accents in what I generalize as Australian and New Zealander.

felixthecat345 wrote:Yeah, I always get Mayans, Incas and Aztecs mixed up. And I didn't know about it not being a doomsday prediction because of all the things the media says.

I only know the real differences between the three because of World History. Easiest way for me to remember the difference is that Incas were in the mountains, Mayans had city-states, and Aztecs had human sacrifice on a scale of thousands per year (Mayans also had sacrifice, but not near that level).

felixthecat345 wrote:I was actually refering mainly to the models, I know your not all like that. Especially as the USA is the fattest nation on Earth.

Can't dispute that.

felixthecat345 wrote: Also, there seems to be an annoying stereotype among a lot of Americans that British drink tea and nothing else 24/7 when most of us drink about a cup every 2 days and we much prefer coke or beer.

You do drink more tea than over here, although I know you definitely don't drink only tea. The stereotype is probably at least partially based on the American Revolution; a lot of people in the colonies stopped drinking tea in protest of the tea tax, which of course made the British the primary tea drinkers in our eyes.

(Fething loyalists )

felixthecat345 wrote:I'm a minor too, but as you can see on the news beer is killing people all the time and kills thousands of people a year. And all you get in return is a few brief periods of forgetting stuff and happiness, apparently.

Same as any alcoholic drink. Wine, vodka, sake, beer... As long as they are taken in moderation (And you don't do something stupid like driving after drinking), you'll be good.

felixthecat345 wrote: And Eddison, let's be honest, probably wouldnt have created the lightbulb if not for Swan.

Agreed.

felixthecat345 wrote: And I know you have some self depreciating humour but British humour is based around making fun of yourself.

True, and American humor is typically based around making fun of others.

ComputerGeek01 wrote:

@ 1hadhq: felixthecat345 might want to reword that but then again just look at Freddy Mercury, I mean come on... (This passes for humor in some parts of the US).

Freddy isn't what I would question in his sentence of "singers-good looking-...."


Lacking pics of singers of the year M41...return to:

In the 41st millenia, british influence is reduced to lords and ladies / aristocracy alongside parliaments as form of government.

Being about 30% Native American by blood I would have to say that the Brits did win, the Empire is in Fact British. However us American get: Chaos, The Ultramarines(Come on how much more proof do you need.. the almost say "Oorah" in the novels people!(which is an army thing not a marine thing.)), The Space Wolves(Alaska, Native Americans), The Cadians and Catachans( all joking aside America invented guerrilla warfare, and with the exception of the later years of the Vietnam war has used it to great effect.. just think of how we tossed all you Tosser's out in 1776.) The Imperial Navy is run more like America's (Yeah we OWNED you there too.) Oh right and we got to the moon first and are probably gonna get to Mars first too so give us the Adeptus Mechanius, might as well blame about half the other Chapters on us too, and whatever else I left out.

At the end of the day, any sustaining world government will probably be just that, a world government, just cause the Emperor is form Britain, and looks like Jesus in Power-armor(Most likely the Emperor should be from the Middle-east... just saying, Jesus wasn't white.. ) doesn't mean that all his troops and his vast war-machine didn't come form Britain's fat capitalist cousin!

Oh and a good argument as to how they lost and the Empire is in fact American. It is an Emperor, not a Queen Mum.

Cadians are generic modern military archetype, predominantly based on the US army afaik

Armageddon troops are based on German mechanized / parachute regiments from WWII

Mordians are heavily based on the Prussians

Vostroyans are based on Russian strelky militia armies

Elyisians are based on parachute commando regiments (101st Airborne, Royal Commandos)

And wow, there is so much wrong in thegrav's post :\

Actually, you're all wrong: The Romans drove their wagons on the right side, just like the British later adopted; we all know how Romanesque (or more properly, Byzantinesque) the Imperium is- its because its a world where the Eastern Roman Empire got restarted in the 31st millennium

how is Gothic everything Byzantinian in origin?

thegrav wrote:Being about 30% Native American by blood I would have to say that the Brits did win, the Empire is in Fact British. However us American get: Chaos, The Ultramarines(Come on how much more proof do you need.. the almost say "Oorah" in the novels people!(which is an army thing not a marine thing.)), The Space Wolves(Alaska, Native Americans), The Cadians and Catachans( all joking aside America invented guerrilla warfare, and with the exception of the later years of the Vietnam war has used it to great effect.. just think of how we tossed all you Tosser's out in 1776.) The Imperial Navy is run more like America's (Yeah we OWNED you there too.) Oh right and we got to the moon first and are probably gonna get to Mars first too so give us the Adeptus Mechanius, might as well blame about half the other Chapters on us too, and whatever else I left out.

At the end of the day, any sustaining world government will probably be just that, a world government, just cause the Emperor is form Britain, and looks like Jesus in Power-armor(Most likely the Emperor should be from the Middle-east... just saying, Jesus wasn't white.. ) doesn't mean that all his troops and his vast war-machine didn't come form Britain's fat capitalist cousin!

Oh and a good argument as to how they lost and the Empire is in fact American. It is an Emperor, not a Queen Mum.

Space Wolves are definitely Scandinavian. I believe it was mentioned somewhere that the Emperor was actually from Turkey. Which is kinda odd considering the Lion has his genes and has blonde hair and the only race that has blonde hair that I know of is central/northern europeans. So I guess the Emperor is kinda everything... Native Americans definitely had guerrilla warfare before we did. If I remember correctly from us history, we (and the brits) considered them cowards for it.

Tea? The stereotype is a brit thing but its def a southern thing as well. I think I go through nearly a gallon of sweet black tea a day. My family is much the same.

Hannibal used guerrilla warfare tactics long before the Americans

As to the "American mis-spelling" of ENGLISH (I recognize that the language is a british "creation"), that was all part of a plan instituted by Benjamin Franklin and Noah Webster (of the Merriam-Webster dictionary, started in Massachusetts, now owned by Encyclopedia Brittanica Inc. [since 1964 to settle any disputes]) to simplify the english language in the United States, not only to differentiate ourselves from the British, but also in preparation for the eventual mandatory educational systems in the US (if I recall my US History class correctly)

felixthecat345 wrote:
Mordians: Not sure, probably nazis
Armaggedon: Those Nazis who worked at concentration camps (coz the gas mask is like what they used when they gassed the showers)

thegrav wrote:
just saying, Jesus wasn't white..

I always wonder why those who believe Jesus is the son of God would ignore the divine half of his origins. We have no idea what Mary would have looked like, we have little idea what the average person looked like 2000 years ago in that part of the world which was a multi-racial area even then. Add to that the power of god and Jesus could have looked like anyone of any race. To say he didn't look white is as ignorant as saying he did; we have no idea.

As for the Emperor being from Turkey, what does a Turk look like? They range from everything between looking like europeans to looking like arabs and asians. It is also possible that the Emperor has been around so long that he is descended from the ancient Greeks or maybe even the celts that lived in Turkey at one time.

The American form of English spoken today is developed from Middle English, as is modern UK English.

Modern English is actually further from these roots than American English however. And since spelling wasn't standardised for a long time, a lot of the cross-pond bickering is just pointless. Very fun though, as this thread has shown.

Also, the world 'Guerilla' is Spanish for 'the little war', and entered English as a result of the Peninsular Campaign of the Napoleonic wars. That doesn't go any way to anull the fact that practically every culture conducted Asymmetric Warfare in one form or another when it had to. I believe the Native Americans tended toward a style that always seemed like Guerilla to the European settlers, but that doesn't mean they thought of it in those terms.

British humour-wise, I'd rather show off this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0jgZKV4N_A

Anyway, I'm Scots, descended from a Norman family (like any Scot without 'Mac' in their surname), and the Anglo-Saxons were German. The pre-Roman British now only really survive in Wales and Cornwall, since the Aenglish and the Scots invaded, The English tongue was for obvious reasons heavily dominated by first Danish then French for a long time in its development, and every single European is a descendant of Charlemagne, because of all the cross-border boning over the years. That includes any of you Yanks with any white in you

Oh, sorry, I'm going off-topic, the point in this thread was that the British won.

Well, every time you buy a GW mini the cash comes back into our economy, so up yours Americanos!

And yes, the Emprah is Turkish culturally, but as the Star-Child I think he gets any old passport he wants, being the rebirth of all of Mankind's shamans.

Oh, and we're all from Africa anyway, in case anyone forgot that...

cadbren wrote:

thegrav wrote:
just saying, Jesus wasn't white..

I always wonder why those who believe Jesus is the son of God would ignore the divine half of his origins. We have no idea what Mary would have looked like, we have little idea what the average person looked like 2000 years ago in that part of the world which was a multi-racial area even then. Add to that the power of god and Jesus could have looked like anyone of any race. To say he didn't look white is as ignorant as saying he did; we have no idea.

What is this, I don't even...

ComputerGeek01 wrote:@ Melissa: You seem to be missing the point of this thread, a title like "41st Millenium, the British won" is an invite to screw around.

In that case I'd rather amuse myself by being completely and utterly serious in a non-serious thread

*AHEM*

USMC


Mordian Iron Guard


My case, I rest it.

isn't that a commisar model?

I wonder if Earth was a lost world 15,000 years ago lol that was off topic

felixthecat345 wrote:America is a continent, USA is a country)

Technically speaking, America is two continents.

As for the OP... I suspect the real answer is that the Inuit eventually got tired of everybody else screwing up and took us all over, but since they never bothered to manufacture cars they just kept the factories the way they were.

Happygrunt wrote:*AHEM*

USMC


Mordian Iron Guard


My case, I rest it.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

cadbren wrote:

thegrav wrote:
just saying, Jesus wasn't white..

I always wonder why those who believe Jesus is the son of God would ignore the divine half of his origins. We have no idea what Mary would have looked like, we have little idea what the average person looked like 2000 years ago in that part of the world which was a multi-racial area even then. Add to that the power of god and Jesus could have looked like anyone of any race. To say he didn't look white is as ignorant as saying he did; we have no idea.

What is this, I don't even...

LOL! I was gonna come up with a response, but there seemed to be some anger in it all and I am being silly in general.


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You know, I could get all mathematical and determine how much Continental drift would occur between now and then, which would probably reduce most of this conversation to an argument over math and geological theory, rather than all this who is better than who BS.

Uh, Jesus was a jew. And not white one. He would have looked pretty Arab.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Uh, Jesus was a jew. And not white one. He would have looked pretty Arab.

Were you alive then?

Yes.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Yes.

Well then you can say what you want(although i don't believe you were alive then so I'm not going to take it to heart) but i wasn't.

Do you beleive I died and came back to life after rotting for 3 days?

This topic got serioused fast.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Do you beleive I died and came back to life after rotting for 3 days?

Snowman90 wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Yes.

Well then you can say what you want(although i don't believe you were alive then so I'm not going to take it to heart) but i wasn't.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Do you beleive I died and came back to life after rotting for 3 days?

Haha, NEVER!!!

Necroman wrote:This topic got serioused fast.

I'm not serious. Ever.

Serious is as serious does.

After reviewing the available resources on Continental Drift and Tectonic Plate theory I came to the conclusion that their currently is not a consensus on how much they move a year... however A good Average is 5cms a year. So these are the "facts" we are working with:

1.The Emperor is from Eastern Europe (Turkey).

2.His palace is in China, but the throne room is in Britain.

3.On Average the Contents drift 5cms a year.

4. Jesus is either white, or not white depending on the current theory of relativity, and how angry the white Christian you are talking to is.

For ease of mathematics we will enlist the help of the Commissars to deal with rule four.. swiftly.. and since the Emperor is Chinese.. someone will bill the family of rule four.

So it is 2010, and the Empire was formed at the end of the Age of Strife so lets say todays date in the year 30,000. Assuming that the current idea of countries had somehow managed to endure THAT LONG, and that nuclear war hadn't reformed our entire planet that would mean that the continents all drifted and average of 193350cms or 1933.5 meters, or 1.9335 km (I could give it to you all in feet, but lets face it.. AMERICAN STANDARD IS STUPID and metric wins.) along there present courses.. Meaning that the current locations of all those places above are slightly shifted.

Now to those pesky Himalayan Mountains... Currently Everest is 8850 meters tall and according to some crazy dudes at MIT, Boston Museum, and some other places is growing as well. About 6.1cms a year. So in the year 30,000 Everest would be 25923.9 meters in height about 4923 meters taller than Olympus Mons. Of course Everest and the Himalayas would have moved 1.9335 km and in that case would be a bit bigger.

I will allow the jury to speculate on how this changes anything.

eh..................

thegrav wrote:After reviewing the available resources on Continental Drift and Tectonic Plate theory I came to the conclusion that their currently is not a consensus on how much they move a year... however A good Average is 5cms a year. So these are the "facts" we are working with:

1.The Emperor is from Eastern Europe (Turkey).

2.His palace is in China, but the throne room is in Britain.

3.On Average the Contents drift 5cms a year.

4. Jesus is either white, or not white depending on the current theory of relativity, and how angry the white Christian you are talking to is.

For ease of mathematics we will enlist the help of the Commissars to deal with rule four.. swiftly.. and since the Emperor is Chinese.. someone will bill the family of rule four.

So it is 2010, and the Empire was formed at the end of the Age of Strife so lets say todays date in the year 30,000. Assuming that the current idea of countries had somehow managed to endure THAT LONG, and that nuclear war hadn't reformed our entire planet that would mean that the continents all drifted and average of 193350cms or 1933.5 meters, or 1.9335 km (I could give it to you all in feet, but lets face it.. AMERICAN STANDARD IS STUPID and metric wins.) along there present courses.. Meaning that the current locations of all those places above are slightly shifted.

Now to those pesky Himalayan Mountains... Currently Everest is 8850 meters tall and according to some crazy dudes at MIT, Boston Museum, and some other places is growing as well. About 6.1cms a year. So in the year 30,000 Everest would be 25923.9 meters in height about 4923 meters taller than Olympus Mons. Of course Everest and the Himalayas would have moved 1.9335 km and in that case would be a bit bigger.

I will allow the jury to speculate on how this changes anything.

SCIENCE RULES ALL

You're assuming that the Himalayas are rising linearly. They won't hit that high, Olympus Mons only has because it is a geostationary hot spot.

In geological terms 30k years isn't long at all, most changes will be cosmetic and vastly outweighed by the impacts of humanity. So keep the landmasses themselves broadly the same and just add and substract coverings like plantlife, cities, and water.

i kind of wish there was a picture with a cuppa right now... soo instead i will jsut say this

I have loved reading this thread and for all those beer naysayers you are either children or not married. Being a husband and a parent makes beer better than God!

Ed_Bodger wrote:I have loved reading this thread and for all those beer naysayers you are either children or not married. Being a husband and a parent makes beer better than God!

According to my faith, beer has always been better than any "god"!

Sgt.Roadkill wrote:i kind of wish there was a picture with a cuppa right now... soo instead i will jsut say this

You do realise that tea was taken to Britain by the Portuguese right?

Yeah, but then we invaded the pants out of asia to get more of it - and that makes it OURS. Woo imperialism!

Also, yay for maths!

HOORAY BEER! BOO TEA!

thegrav wrote:HOORAY BEER! BOO TEA!

+1

thegrav wrote:Being about 30% Native American by blood I would have to say that the Brits did win, the Empire is in Fact British. However us American get: Chaos, The Ultramarines(Come on how much more proof do you need.. the almost say "Oorah" in the novels people!(which is an army thing not a marine thing.)), The Space Wolves(Alaska, Native Americans), The Cadians and Catachans( all joking aside America invented guerrilla warfare, and with the exception of the later years of the Vietnam war has used it to great effect.. just think of how we tossed all you Tosser's out in 1776.) The Imperial Navy is run more like America's (Yeah we OWNED you there too.) Oh right and we got to the moon first and are probably gonna get to Mars first too so give us the Adeptus Mechanius, might as well blame about half the other Chapters on us too, and whatever else I left out.

At the end of the day, any sustaining world government will probably be just that, a world government, just cause the Emperor is form Britain, and looks like Jesus in Power-armor(Most likely the Emperor should be from the Middle-east... just saying, Jesus wasn't white.. ) doesn't mean that all his troops and his vast war-machine didn't come form Britain's fat capitalist cousin!

Oh and a good argument as to how they lost and the Empire is in fact American. It is an Emperor, not a Queen Mum.

I thought the space wolves were Scandinavian.... they all have scandinavian names, & do vikingey things like quaffing ale & pillaging!

somecallmeJack wrote:

thegrav wrote:Being about 30% Native American by blood I would have to say that the Brits did win, the Empire is in Fact British. However us American get: Chaos, The Ultramarines(Come on how much more proof do you need.. the almost say "Oorah" in the novels people!(which is an army thing not a marine thing.)), The Space Wolves(Alaska, Native Americans), The Cadians and Catachans( all joking aside America invented guerrilla warfare, and with the exception of the later years of the Vietnam war has used it to great effect.. just think of how we tossed all you Tosser's out in 1776.) The Imperial Navy is run more like America's (Yeah we OWNED you there too.) Oh right and we got to the moon first and are probably gonna get to Mars first too so give us the Adeptus Mechanius, might as well blame about half the other Chapters on us too, and whatever else I left out.

At the end of the day, any sustaining world government will probably be just that, a world government, just cause the Emperor is form Britain, and looks like Jesus in Power-armor(Most likely the Emperor should be from the Middle-east... just saying, Jesus wasn't white.. ) doesn't mean that all his troops and his vast war-machine didn't come form Britain's fat capitalist cousin!

Oh and a good argument as to how they lost and the Empire is in fact American. It is an Emperor, not a Queen Mum.

I thought the space wolves were Scandinavian.... they all have scandinavian names, & do vikingey things like quaffing ale & pillaging!

I think of them as Native American personally but I can see them being more Scandinavian in nature too, possibly the main idea was to combine several "nature" based cultures that fought and drank too much.

thegrav wrote:

somecallmeJack wrote:

thegrav wrote:Being about 30% Native American by blood I would have to say that the Brits did win, the Empire is in Fact British. However us American get: Chaos, The Ultramarines(Come on how much more proof do you need.. the almost say "Oorah" in the novels people!(which is an army thing not a marine thing.)), The Space Wolves(Alaska, Native Americans), The Cadians and Catachans( all joking aside America invented guerrilla warfare, and with the exception of the later years of the Vietnam war has used it to great effect.. just think of how we tossed all you Tosser's out in 1776.) The Imperial Navy is run more like America's (Yeah we OWNED you there too.) Oh right and we got to the moon first and are probably gonna get to Mars first too so give us the Adeptus Mechanius, might as well blame about half the other Chapters on us too, and whatever else I left out.

At the end of the day, any sustaining world government will probably be just that, a world government, just cause the Emperor is form Britain, and looks like Jesus in Power-armor(Most likely the Emperor should be from the Middle-east... just saying, Jesus wasn't white.. ) doesn't mean that all his troops and his vast war-machine didn't come form Britain's fat capitalist cousin!

Oh and a good argument as to how they lost and the Empire is in fact American. It is an Emperor, not a Queen Mum.

I thought the space wolves were Scandinavian.... they all have scandinavian names, & do vikingey things like quaffing ale & pillaging!

I think of them as Native American personally but I can see them being more Scandinavian in nature too, possibly the main idea was to combine several "nature" based cultures that fought and drank too much.

The Native America spot is taken by the DA.

But I don't like the DA...

Oh well, GW can't please Romans and Trojans. xD

Krauser wrote:Oh well, GW can't please Romans and Trojans. xD

You sir are full of win.

ITT: My country is better then yours because I was born in it.. + some invention.

I also laugh at some of the warped perceptions in this thread..

And I saved that awesome facepalm image..

Sgt.Roadkill wrote:i kind of wish there was a picture with a cuppa right now... soo instead i will jsut say this

Well...

This is us!

Im Quite Amazed That People Say 'British' To Be British You Have To Have Scotsmen,Welshmen,Irishmen And Englishmen In Your Family, So Most Of You Mean Either Scottish,Welsh,Irish Or English.And Just So You Know I'm English Not British

Necroman wrote:

Sgt.Roadkill wrote:i kind of wish there was a picture with a cuppa right now... soo instead i will jsut say this

Well...

This is us!

Hogan? Really? The rock should be there, not Hogan.

MenOfTanith wrote:Im Quite Amazed That People Say 'British' To Be British You Have To Have Scotsmen,Welshmen,Irishmen And Englishmen In Your Family, So Most Of You Mean Either Scottish,Welsh,Irish Or English.And Just So You Know I'm English Not British

I've always considered myself British, probably because I associate "ENGERLAND" with yobs. 'S'not like England's even a country anyway.

MoarDakka wrote:

And by this we can conclude that the Emperor is, in fact, Margaret Thatcher.

Huzzah!

That explains the End Times.

MenOfTanith wrote:Im Quite Amazed That People Say 'British' To Be British You Have To Have Scotsmen,Welshmen,Irishmen And Englishmen In Your Family, So Most Of You Mean Either Scottish,Welsh,Irish Or English.And Just So You Know I'm English Not British

That is like saying you are not European because you don't have Italians, French, Germans and everyone else in your family.

Alternatively it makes me Japanglish as I have Japanese people in my family.

Kilkrazy wrote:

MenOfTanith wrote:Im Quite Amazed That People Say 'British' To Be British You Have To Have Scotsmen,Welshmen,Irishmen And Englishmen In Your Family, So Most Of You Mean Either Scottish,Welsh,Irish Or English.And Just So You Know I'm English Not British

That is like saying you are not European because you don't have Italians, French, Germans and everyone else in your family.

Alternatively it makes me Japanglish as I have Japanese people in my family.

I'm mostly irish. Does that make me Iringlish?

I am American, and I drink tea.
Thank you, have a nice day.

On-Topic: If the British won, then why do they still have beer?

Beer is a quintessential British drink, I think you'll find. Why, who doesn't enjoy a pint of stout?

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:Beer is a quintessential British drink, I think you'll find. Why, who doesn't enjoy a pint of stout?

Stout? Nah I'm more of a Lager fan my self, I've been gaining an apreciation for Hefes to recently (That's Hefeweizen for the rest of you). But I don't want to count out the American High Gravity beers (211 anyone?).

ComputerGeek01 wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:Beer is a quintessential British drink, I think you'll find. Why, who doesn't enjoy a pint of stout?

Stout? Nah I'm more of a Lager fan my self, I've been gaining an apreciation for Hefes to recently (That's Hefeweizen for the rest of you). But I don't want to count out the American High Gravity beers (211 anyone?).

Lager? Well, if you must.
To be honest, I'm not that fussy with beers. I do, of course, have a few favourites, such as Newcastle Brown Ale or (from the Lager front) Leffe Blond, but otherwise as long as it isn't Stella Artois or something like it I'll enjoy it.

Snowman90 wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

MenOfTanith wrote:Im Quite Amazed That People Say 'British' To Be British You Have To Have Scotsmen,Welshmen,Irishmen And Englishmen In Your Family, So Most Of You Mean Either Scottish,Welsh,Irish Or English.And Just So You Know I'm English Not British

That is like saying you are not European because you don't have Italians, French, Germans and everyone else in your family.

Alternatively it makes me Japanglish as I have Japanese people in my family.

I'm mostly irish. Does that make me Iringlish?

It makes you Great British! You come from the archipelago of Great Britain which includes Britain, Ireland and a number of smaller islands such as Man and Wight.

No in 40k UK don't win CREEEEEEEEDDD does .

Krauser wrote:
The Native America spot is taken by the DA.

How did you arrive at that theory? Please explain, I am intrigued.

Luco wrote:

Krauser wrote:
The Native America spot is taken by the DA.

How did you arrive at that theory? Please explain, I am intrigued.

Apparently, one of their recruitment planets was modeled after the Great Plains.

That's Death Wing isn't it?

Cambak wrote:I am American, and I drink tea.
Thank you, have a nice day.

On-Topic: If the British won, then why do they still have beer?

I'll have you know we've been brewing beer since before yer independence!

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

ComputerGeek01 wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:Beer is a quintessential British drink, I think you'll find. Why, who doesn't enjoy a pint of stout?

Stout? Nah I'm more of a Lager fan my self, I've been gaining an apreciation for Hefes to recently (That's Hefeweizen for the rest of you). But I don't want to count out the American High Gravity beers (211 anyone?).

Lager? Well, if you must.
To be honest, I'm not that fussy with beers. I do, of course, have a few favourites, such as Newcastle Brown Ale or (from the Lager front) Leffe Blond, but otherwise as long as it isn't Stella Artois or something like it I'll enjoy it.

Leffe is what God would sweat <3

I don't think the Deathwing recruits are enough to make them modeled after NA's. The naming conventions are very much pulled from middle eastern angelic names (Azrael, Sammael, Belial, Ezekial, and Asmodai are all angel names) and Naaman was one of the generals in the middle east back before Israel was destroyed and rebuilt.

Also the lore of the chapter is very reformation-era. After all it was Luther who split the chapter in two (referencing the split in the Catholic Church by Martin Luther) and maintains the DW and RW which were segments of the knightly order. Let's not forget about the monk's robes that every veteran wears.

In the Death Wing expansion of Space Hulk (first edition) the Death Wingers' planet is completely North American Plains Indian.

That means that they recruited from the planet and that generation was not that the chapter is native american. One of the things I believe that was mentioned was that the members of the squad that returned returned to using their original names, indicating that they had been given judeo-islamic-christian names as is held by the rest of the chapter.

Keep in mind that the Deathwing doesn't have a planet and neither do the Dark Angels, they recruit in whatever system The Rock is in for a generation then head to the next system.

Caliban resembled, according to Descent of Angels and the 4th ed codex, more of a feudal european state than a native american ones as there were no tribes but rather castles and defenses commanded by knightly orders.

Snowman90 wrote:

Necroman wrote:

Sgt.Roadkill wrote:i kind of wish there was a picture with a cuppa right now... soo instead i will jsut say this

Well...

This is us!

Hogan? Really? The rock should be there, not Hogan.

pfff. Rock is not "A Real American" with red white and blue running wild through you!


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Cambak wrote:I am American, and I drink tea.
Thank you, have a nice day.

On-Topic: If the British won, then why do they still have beer?

My God man!? get your stereotypes in order! The real question is does England have tap-water or is it just a pipe hooked into the pub's beer tap that every home in the country has 10 feet away?

(to the British)
Or is it that You all are afraid to call your sister country successful, for the most part. You all are still fuming, I bet, over the fact that he did best you and gained our independence.

Cambak wrote:(to the British)
Or is it that You all are afraid to call your sister country successful, for the most part. You all are still fuming, I bet, over the fact that he did best you and gained our independence.

Not really, as we ended up with Australia. That's a continent, y'know. Also, the aussies are pretty damn friendly and make good wine.
So, in a way, everything balanced out

Oh, and most of us were born a hundred years or so after American Independance was declared, so most of us don't care so long as you yanks keep producing cool technological stuff.

Yeah, your right, it does even out, doesn't it? You all have Forge World, which sells cool things at ridiculous prices. And we have Bungie, which makes cool video games at normal video game prices.

GRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW NOTICE ME!!!!!!

Ehem.

May I say to him that dared to say "Spess marienz are american lulz" :O

No, GW is ENGLISH therefore everybody is ENGLISH in it..

You can have that planet called I think.. Birmingham; the black planet?


That's such a jibe GW lol but ur kwwwwwwlllll


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And you are all still fuming that you originate from us.

Cambak wrote:(to the British)
Or is it that You all are afraid to call your sister country successful, for the most part. You all are still fuming, I bet, over the fact that the French did best you and gained our independence.

Fix'd.

America is not Britian's sister. More like its rebelious son. Canada is his brother, but the "good son". The obediant one that always does what its told.

This thread is full of stupidity. Highlights include:

- A GERMAN making disparaging remarks about British music.

- If you're English you aren't British. Or some bollocks. As long as you were born in one of the constituent countries of The United Kingdom you are British, whether you like it or not. Check your passport for further details. That reminds me:

- England isn't a country. Yes it is. Stop being silly.

- 13 year old Americans saying things like 'WE KICKED YOUR ASSES IN THE WAR OF INDEPENDENCE!!!1!!one!!' 'You' didn't kick anyone's ass. You COULDN'T kick anyone's ass. You probably get YOUR ass kicked on a regular basis by more popular children.

Damn, this thread makes me feel like ShumaGorath.

ON-TOPIC: Yes, in the 41st millenium the British won. You can tell because there's an empire. Americans love Freedom (c) too much to have an empire.

So they teach you that you won the revolutionary war? Obviously we did something right as we split from you and became our own nation.

Nope, Brits win for sure, they thought up the game. But I'd like to see a Leman Russ make it around a traffic circle (or roundabout if preferred) .

Meh. The American War of Independence means a lot more to you guys than us because it's part of your nation's (brief) history. We've lost plenty of wars, liberated a lot of colonial territories, but we're still lucky enough to be punching way above our weight culturally, economically and politically.

This is such a silly thread, I can't believe it's lasted this long. MS hits it on the head (and a Leman Russ as physically portrayed is as maneuverable as a shed) that it was made up in the UK, and 99% of the minds still inputting into the idea are British.

On the other divergent topics, what does the future hold for US/UK rivalry? Anyone want to make any predictions as to where we'll all be 2100?

Apart from under 20ft of water, fighting Mad Max style over ipods and viagra of course...

Luco wrote:So they teach you that you won the revolutionary war? Obviously we did something right as we split from you and became our own nation.

There's that 'we' again.... Of course they don't teach British children that The British Empire won the American War of Independence. In fact they don't teach the War of Independence at all, it's a footnote to British history.

My point is that kids going around saying 'yeah, we kicked your ass and got our independence!!' is pathetic. You personally had about as much to do with it as I have to do with defeating the Kaiser, conquering India or discovering Australia. It's stupid.


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Captain Roderick wrote:On the other divergent topics, what does the future hold for US/UK rivalry? Anyone want to make any predictions as to where we'll all be 2100?

Apart from under 20ft of water, fighting Mad Max style over ipods and viagra of course...

I don't think America will last another 100 years in it's present incarnation. I think that in that time, one or more states will secede from the union and the whole thing will break apart into smaller countries.

Albatross wrote:I don't think America will last another 100 years in it's present incarnation. I think that in that time, one or more states will secede from the union and the whole thing will break apart into smaller countries.

And Frazz will get his happy Great Country of Texas

"But I'd like to see a Leman Russ make it around a traffic circle (or roundabout if preferred) "

its a battle tank. it goes over the roundabout.

Albatross wrote:

Luco wrote:So they teach you that you won the revolutionary war? Obviously we did something right as we split from you and became our own nation.

There's that 'we' again.... Of course they don't teach British children that The British Empire won the American War of Independence. In fact they don't teach the War of Independence at all, it's a footnote to British history.

My point is that kids going around saying 'yeah, we kicked your ass and got our independence!!' is pathetic. You personally had about as much to do with it as I have to do with defeating the Kaiser, conquering India or discovering Australia. It's stupid.

I'm sorry that you have no connection with your people or care for the successes of your family. You standing for only yourself is kinda sad.

Luco wrote:

Albatross wrote:

Luco wrote:So they teach you that you won the revolutionary war? Obviously we did something right as we split from you and became our own nation.

There's that 'we' again.... Of course they don't teach British children that The British Empire won the American War of Independence. In fact they don't teach the War of Independence at all, it's a footnote to British history.

My point is that kids going around saying 'yeah, we kicked your ass and got our independence!!' is pathetic. You personally had about as much to do with it as I have to do with defeating the Kaiser, conquering India or discovering Australia. It's stupid.

I'm sorry that you have no connection with your people or care for the successes of your family. You standing for only yourself is kinda sad.

WTF are you talking about? I am very patriotic, I'm basically a nationalist! However, I'm not about to claim credit for something I had feth all to do with, and neither should you.

Albatross wrote:

Luco wrote:
I'm sorry that you have no connection with your people or care for the successes of your family. You standing for only yourself is kinda sad.

WTF are you talking about? I am very patriotic, I'm basically a nationalist! However, I'm not about to claim credit for something I had feth all to do with, and neither should you.

Language 'Tross!

I think the defining line here is that (from what I've observed) Americans tend to set more importance in their ancestry, since they have only a short history. Thus 8th-generation Americans call themselves Irish, or Scots or whatever whereas in the UK we have a long, long history and take a more philosophical view. I, for example, am British, even though my family is Scots since about the 13th century and I spent most of my life there, and I don't claim any personal connection to historical events, no matter how pivotal and important to my nation's history.

Luco, you should read Made In America by Bill Bryson.

And 'Tross, a nationalist you are indeed.

It is ridiculous to think that modern-day Britain and modern-day USA went back in time to the 18th century to fight a war to see who is the hardest, and the Americans won so that makes their nation the greatest.

At the time the colonists were almost entirely British and had very British political ideas -- they wanted representation in Westminster and couldn't get it.

One of the reasons the rebellion succeeded was that a large chunk of the British population and power elite had sympathy with their claims and aims, so they did not support the war.

Kilkrazy wrote:It is ridiculous to think that modern-day Britain and modern-day USA went back in time to the 18th century to fight a war to see who is the hardest, and the Americans won so that makes their nation the greatest.

At the time the colonists were almost entirely British and had very British political ideas -- they wanted representation in Westminster and couldn't get it.

One of the reasons the rebellion succeeded was that a large chunk of the British population and power elite had sympathy with their claims and aims, so they did not support the war.

QFT.

The war that included American's winning independance was France, Spain, the Dutch Republic, and America (in descending order of military importance to the war) VS Britain. Without the French to save you you'd all be drinking tea right now like good little colonials!

Not that British people really care about that war. As someone else noted, it's just a historical footnote. The raw wound that's more likely to annoy us is saying you won WW2, when really it was the Russians.

Rube wrote:
Not that British people really care about that war. As someone else noted, it's just a historical footnote. The raw wound that's more likely to annoy us is saying you won WW2, when really it was the Russians.

The Russians "helped" by steamrolling nazi Germany, the Americans helped by sending supplys and troops, it was teamwork mate.

Klawjaw wrote:

Rube wrote:
Not that British people really care about that war. As someone else noted, it's just a historical footnote. The raw wound that's more likely to annoy us is saying you won WW2, when really it was the Russians.

The Russians "helped" by steamrolling nazi Germany, the Americans helped by sending supplys and troops, it was teamwork mate.

QFT. Let's not leave anyone out, after all. Besides, technically the US did win WWII, as they were on the winning side at the time.

While we remember the sterling Soviet contribution to Allied victory, let's also not forget that the Nazis would not have got so far if the Soviets hadn't been their allies for nearly the first two years.

The ordinary people of the USSR paid in blood for the mistakes of the leaders.

Luco wrote:

Krauser wrote:
The Native America spot is taken by the DA.

How did you arrive at that theory? Please explain, I am intrigued.

Read the fluff for the deathwing, when they first painted their armour white.

Its something like:
DA get to a recruiting planet most (or all, cant recall correctly) of the population is 'nid food.
Population which was pretty much a copy paste of native americans.

add to that the feathers you find in some of the miniatures and some other descriptions in that book and you have Native America DA.

Luco wrote:So they teach you that you won the revolutionary war? Obviously we did something right as we split from you and became our own nation.

I believe he's referring to you personally, since you choose to refer to the exploits of your country in the past as your own:

AKA, "we kicked your ass!"

Besides, everyone knows the Frenchies did it >

Ya know guys, this site IS meant for discussion on plastic soldiers, not political debate....

Besides, as Roderick said, an event a hundred years ago has no connection with you whatsoever. At that time you were just a speck of DNA in you're ancestors sperm....
And besides, the entire reason the Americans were the majority of the D day landing force was American was coz our amy had been fighting overseas for 4 years already and was in a bit of a poor state. And the Russians invaded Germany. The Americans mainly were island hopping in the pacific. And then they went completely over-the-top and nuked horashima, killing 100,000 people 15,000 of whom were children. But that was your ancestors, not you (unless you're really sad.)

Just would like to say that over across the sea, teachers teach us that the only reason we won was because of Valley Forge and the nattle of Saratoga. The French are as just as much of a footnote as the Miamis were.

Thus are national myths created and sustained.

Krauser wrote:

Luco wrote:

Krauser wrote:
The Native America spot is taken by the DA.

How did you arrive at that theory? Please explain, I am intrigued.

Read the fluff for the deathwing, when they first painted their armour white.

Its something like:
DA get to a recruiting planet most (or all, cant recall correctly) of the population is 'nid food.
Population which was pretty much a copy paste of native americans.

add to that the feathers you find in some of the miniatures and some other descriptions in that book and you have Native America DA.

I have read the Tale of Two Heads Talking. That is one incident on a single world that the DA recruited from of the hundreds. Caliban was a knight world and the Dark Angels keep Knightly traditions (distinctly European), the naming convention is distinctly from Judeo-Christian lore, the history is that of the Holy German Empire and the Reformation and yet 4 members are native american and it makes the entire chapter native american? You must be joking yes?

And then they went completely over-the-top and nuked horashima, killing 100,000 people 15,000 of whom were children

If you think that invading Japan and having a body count of over 2 million is better than a mere 100,000 something is wrong with you. I thank God that my ancestors had the spine to do what the modern man does not. If it were up to modern men to wage the war we would have invaded, taken 5,000 losses then arranged a peace deal and left the Imperial structure of Japan and much of its infrastructure left to strike back.

aka_tizz wrote:

eldarbgamer13 wrote:Most countries in Europe have the drivers seat on the left, and Another reason they may have won is because the Guardsmen use the british curse, "arse"

I assume that's what you meant in fact, as in most European countries the driving is done on the right. Except UK of course, they are the ones doing it wrong

Ahem.
The original reason for driving on the left was to enable you to draw your sword with your right hand.
However, with the prevelance of CC combat in 40k it is logical to drive on the left.

Luco wrote:

Krauser wrote:

Luco wrote:

Krauser wrote:
The Native America spot is taken by the DA.

How did you arrive at that theory? Please explain, I am intrigued.

Read the fluff for the deathwing, when they first painted their armour white.

Its something like:
DA get to a recruiting planet most (or all, cant recall correctly) of the population is 'nid food.
Population which was pretty much a copy paste of native americans.

add to that the feathers you find in some of the miniatures and some other descriptions in that book and you have Native America DA.

I have read the Tale of Two Heads Talking. That is one incident on a single world that the DA recruited from of the hundreds. Caliban was a knight world and the Dark Angels keep Knightly traditions (distinctly European), the naming convention is distinctly from Judeo-Christian lore, the history is that of the Holy German Empire and the Reformation and yet 4 members are native american and it makes the entire chapter native american? You must be joking yes?

[Fanatic mode ON] Nah, the knight theme is taken by the black templars, sorry, get another boat [Fanatic mode OFF]

Well, if you add to the novel/text I mentioned the fact that DA miniatures love to be adorned by feathers (besides robes) and you have a plausible explanation for them being Native americans. (Even though caliban was in fact ruled by a knightly society IIRC)