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Post by: Jimsolo
What is your favorite member of the Ruinous Powers? I'm thinking about building a new army, and wondering what other people think about the Chaos deities. And, for the reason I posted this in the 40k Background section, why is your choice your favorite? I'm not trying to find out what people play, just what Chaos deity they like the most, and the reasons they like it.
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Post by: KamikazeCanuck
Nurgle. In the end there is only death.
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Post by: Nitros14
Tzeentch is described as the Chaos god of Change, Ambition, Knowledge, Hope and Sorcery. His titles include the Changer of Ways, the Architect of Fate and the Great Sorceror. Tzeentch excels in subtle machinations and is patron to schemers and conspirators of all sorts and he favours the clever over the strong.
Born out of the survivalist emotion of Hope, Tzeentch is the greatest of the four great Chaos Gods of the Warp. Tzeentch is the Warp God of change, sorcery, Machiavellian scheming, power craving and subtle manipulation. He bears the titles of "the Changer of Ways", "the Architect of Fate", "the Weaver of Destiny", "the Herald of Hope", "the Grand Schemer", "the Great Conspirator", "the Great Mutator" and "the Lord of Sorcery"
The emotion that is most closely associated with Tzeentch is hope. Tzeentch represents the hopeful dreams and aspirations of mortals run entirely out of control. He is the will to change and evolve, to improve and to build, to cunningly outmaneuver others. Anyone who ever hoped to improve their station in life unknowingly empowers Tzeentch. It is in the hearts of those with the strongest desire to prevail that Tzeentch whispers his insidious promise: the means to life eternal for those unwilling to accept death and oblivion as inevitable. This refusal to accept the inevitable makes Tzeentch the opposite and nemesis of the Chaos God Nurgle.
There is a way through the coming darkness.
But to find it we must change.
We must change and change until Change is our master. For nothing neither god nor mortal can hold that which has no form.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed. 
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Post by: Necroman
KILL MAIM BURN KILL MAIM BURN
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
HARRIERS FOR THE CUP!
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Post by: Krauser
I'd say Khorne, closely followed by Tzeentch
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Post by: BAD2
Tzeentch because of victory through smarts and trickery. >=)
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Post by: Mr. Self Destruct
Well let's think...
KHORNE: No. I don't even like work.
NURGLE: I already smell like gak on weekends, so...
TZEENTCH: No. Math is hard.
SLAANESH: More glamourous than smelling like gak, hedonistic, precocious....easy peasy.
In other words: Slaanesh.
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Post by: Jimsolo
Canuck: I always thought that death was Khorne's thing. Nurgle's influence ends at death. I kind of thought Nurgle was all about the decay, the lead up to death, but never actually granting the release that death would bring. Ironically, Nurgle seems to promote life (in a twisted, perverse kind of way).
Am I wrong on this?
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Post by: Krauser
Jimsolo wrote:Canuck: I always thought that death was Khorne's thing. Nurgle's influence ends at death. I kind of thought Nurgle was all about the decay, the lead up to death, but never actually granting the release that death would bring. Ironically, Nurgle seems to promote life (in a twisted, perverse kind of way).
Am I wrong on this?
Depends how you look at it.
Is Nugle the God of Death and Decay? Yes, most certainly.
If you look at his followers they are all decaying, rotten,, plagued and so on.
But if you look at his opponents they all die because of the diseases his soldiers/minions carry.
So on the one hand you have the god of decay, which infects his minions with diseases but doesn't kill them (in most cases anyway) while on the other hand you have the god of death, which kills his enemies through the same diseases his minions are able to withstand (in most cases at least).
In the end Nugle is a double edge sword (like all chaos gods) worship him and live, even if its not a very pleasant life. Defy him and you die, in a most agonising way.
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Post by: Nitros14
Nurgle's minions are already dead. They're walking dead.
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Post by: Melissia
Gork and Mork.
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Post by: Nitros14
Melissia wrote:Gork and Mork.
Get out of here heretic.
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Post by: Melissia
You're the heretic dude 
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Post by: Nitros14
Melissia wrote:You're the heretic dude
NOT IN THIS THREAD.
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Post by: Melissia
Besides, Codex: Orks does in fact say that Gork and Mork exist as gods in the warp.
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Post by: Nitros14
Melissia wrote:Besides, Codex: Orks does in fact say that Gork and Mork exist as gods in the warp.
The Emperor and every human soul also exist in the warp, do you call them Chaos Gods?
Gork and Mork are warp entities, but not the specific four Gods known as "Chaos Gods" by the parameters of this thread.
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Post by: Jimsolo
I totally take back my comments, Canuck. I reread my info from my sources, and I had my supposition ass backwards. *bow* Forgiveness please.
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Post by: Nitros14
The Chaos Gods are nothing more than a reflection of every mortal's deepest darkest emotions.
So the question is really, what emotion resonates most with you?
It's less Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle, Slaanesh and more
Anger?
Hope?
Despair?
Desire?
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Post by: Melissia
No, as the Emperor was once a living being. The Chaos Gods are reflections of the emotions of the various mortal races-- and Gork and Mork are the reflections of the emotions and subconscious of Orks.
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Post by: garret
Malal.
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Post by: Nitros14
Melissia wrote:No, as the Emperor was once a living being. The Chaos Gods are reflections of the emotions of the various mortal races-- and Gork and Mork are the reflections of the emotions and subconscious of Orks.
Yeah well no one cares about Orks! You're still a heretic! AWAY VILE WOMAN!
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Post by: Blitza da warboy
garret wrote:Malal.
agreed 
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Post by: Dr. Cheesesteak
Melissia wrote:Besides, Codex: Orks does in fact say that Gork and Mork exist as gods in the warp.
Gork and Mork are incarnated as cunningly brutal and brutally cunning, right? Sounds like Khorne and Tzeentch rip-offs to me turned slowed by the Ork brain...
Anyway, back to actual Chaos Gods. I voted Slaanesh. I'm addicted to sex.
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Post by: Shadowbrand
Their called Orcs for feths sake! What the hell are orks anyways? 
I guess now it would be obvious I am Khorne.
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Post by: Slarg232
Jimsolo wrote:Canuck: I always thought that death was Khorne's thing. Nurgle's influence ends at death. I kind of thought Nurgle was all about the decay, the lead up to death, but never actually granting the release that death would bring. Ironically, Nurgle seems to promote life (in a twisted, perverse kind of way).
Am I wrong on this?
Nurgle's abilities end at death, but not in the way that actually sounds. Of all the Dark Gods, Nurgle is a creator. He creates viruses and bacteria, which are the simplest of living things, but yet they also destroy much more complicated life, and as such Nurgle is seen as a killer instead of a creator. His powers end with life, but since he also technically creates life. Nurgle strives off of fear of desease and death, which is why his followers turn to him, they don't want to die and as such give themselves to Nurgle.
As for me, I like all the gods equally. They are all based off of flaws in the human psyche, Khorne being blind rage that leads to regret, Nurgle being fear, Slaanesh as uncontrollable fetishes, and Tzeentch as a power lust. All four can be used to great effect, but if you're not careful, they will destroy you. To put it simply: The Dark Gods embody those perfect imperfections of the human race. You hate them, and those who succomb to them, but you can't help but feel sorry for them too.
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Post by: Zed
Slaanesh. He/She/It promotes sex, drugs and noise, what more could you want? I also got an excuse to put an electric guitar on one of my models (my Noise Champion).
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Post by: rabidaskal
Malal! The aspect of Chaos turning on itself.
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Post by: Slarg232
Zed wrote:Slaanesh. He/She/It promotes sex, drugs and noise, what more could you want? I also got an excuse to put an electric guitar on one of my models (my Noise Champion).
Off Topic, but that has some basis to it, as the first ever Sonic Blasters were just instruments that were at too high of a pitch that burst eyeballs and caused people to bleed out of every orifice.
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Post by: Nitros14
Slarg232 wrote:Jimsolo wrote:Canuck: I always thought that death was Khorne's thing. Nurgle's influence ends at death. I kind of thought Nurgle was all about the decay, the lead up to death, but never actually granting the release that death would bring. Ironically, Nurgle seems to promote life (in a twisted, perverse kind of way).
Am I wrong on this?
Nurgle's abilities end at death, but not in the way that actually sounds. Of all the Dark Gods, Nurgle is a creator. He creates viruses and bacteria, which are the simplest of living things, but yet they also destroy much more complicated life, and as such Nurgle is seen as a killer instead of a creator. His powers end with life, but since he also technically creates life. Nurgle strives off of fear of desease and death, which is why his followers turn to him, they don't want to die and as such give themselves to Nurgle.
As for me, I like all the gods equally. They are all based off of flaws in the human psyche, Khorne being blind rage that leads to regret, Nurgle being fear, Slaanesh as uncontrollable fetishes, and Tzeentch as a power lust. All four can be used to great effect, but if you're not careful, they will destroy you. To put it simply: The Dark Gods embody those perfect imperfections of the human race. You hate them, and those who succomb to them, but you can't help but feel sorry for them too.
Tzeentch is much more of a creator than Nurgle. Nurgle's powers are fear and despair but also stagnation, apathy and acceptance of what is.
Tzeentch is a blazing furnace of creation. Everchanging growth and evolution. Tzeentch is creation gone wildly out of control, as all the hopes and dreams of mortals are unleashed to their fullest potential. He's constantly creating intricate plans and weaving new webs of deception. He's curiosity and knowledge taken to their farthest extremes.
You know Lords of Change come up with 100+ new names and titles for themselves every day, Horrors and Flamers recreate their bodies in a new way every few seconds 
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Post by: Melissia
Dr. Cheesesteak wrote:Gork and Mork are incarnated as cunningly brutal and brutally cunning, right? Sounds like Khorne and Tzeentch rip-offs to me turned slowed by the Ork brain...
Arguably, Khorne is a weaker variant of Gork . Back when the Orks were created, the chaos gods were in their infancy and Slaanesh had certainly not been born yet. Back then, they were the Krork mind you.
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Post by: Slarg232
Nitros14 wrote:Slarg232 wrote:Jimsolo wrote:Canuck: I always thought that death was Khorne's thing. Nurgle's influence ends at death. I kind of thought Nurgle was all about the decay, the lead up to death, but never actually granting the release that death would bring. Ironically, Nurgle seems to promote life (in a twisted, perverse kind of way).
Am I wrong on this?
Nurgle's abilities end at death, but not in the way that actually sounds. Of all the Dark Gods, Nurgle is a creator. He creates viruses and bacteria, which are the simplest of living things, but yet they also destroy much more complicated life, and as such Nurgle is seen as a killer instead of a creator. His powers end with life, but since he also technically creates life. Nurgle strives off of fear of desease and death, which is why his followers turn to him, they don't want to die and as such give themselves to Nurgle.
As for me, I like all the gods equally. They are all based off of flaws in the human psyche, Khorne being blind rage that leads to regret, Nurgle being fear, Slaanesh as uncontrollable fetishes, and Tzeentch as a power lust. All four can be used to great effect, but if you're not careful, they will destroy you. To put it simply: The Dark Gods embody those perfect imperfections of the human race. You hate them, and those who succomb to them, but you can't help but feel sorry for them too.
Tzeentch is much more of a creator than Nurgle. Nurgle's powers are fear and despair but also stagnation, apathy and acceptance of what is.
Tzeentch is a blazing furnace of creation. Everchanging growth and evolution. Tzeentch is creation gone wildly out of control, as all the hopes and dreams of mortals are unleashed to their fullest potential. He's constantly creating intricate plans and weaving new webs of deception. He's curiosity and knowledge taken to their farthest extremes.
You know Lords of Change come up with 100+ new names and titles for themselves every day, Horrors and Flamers recreate their bodies in a new way every few seconds
I don't really think that's creation, per say, more just evolution.
I picture it as Nurgle will create something that will destroy what is already there, where as Tzeentch will build upon what is already there. Nurgle creates something to undermine the basis of life, but Tzeentch builds upon it. Tzeentch is that crazy construction worker you had no choice hireing, Nurgle are those damned termites.
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Post by: Nitros14
Zed wrote:Slaanesh. He/She/It promotes sex, drugs and noise, what more could you want? I also got an excuse to put an electric guitar on one of my models (my Noise Champion).
From what I've read of his fluff, Slaanesh also expands your senses a thousand fold, but then you grow used to that level of stimulation and can't find the slightest scrap of fulfillment from anything. Thus the ironic damned torment of those who turned to him for pleasure. They can't experience pleasure ever again. Noise Marines can only find the tiniest bit of it from the explosions and screams of the dying.
Granted there's drawbacks to the other Chaos Gods. Khorne is likely to get you killed very rapidly. Nurgle should be self explanatory. Tzeentch is liable to expend you like the pawn you are when you outlive your usefulness.
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Post by: Slarg232
Nitros14 wrote:Zed wrote:Slaanesh. He/She/It promotes sex, drugs and noise, what more could you want? I also got an excuse to put an electric guitar on one of my models (my Noise Champion).
From what I've read of his fluff, Slaanesh also expands your senses a thousand fold, but then you grow used to that level of stimulation and can't find the slightest scrap of fulfillment from anything. Thus the ironic damned torment of those who turned to him for pleasure. They can't experience pleasure ever again. Noise Marines can only find the tiniest bit of it from the explosions and screams of the dying.
Just adding on to that: That also includes pain, to an extent. They become so used to pain that it truely takes a whole hell of a lot of it to stimulate them. They don't care, either, anything but boredom.
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Post by: Krauser
Melissia wrote:Dr. Cheesesteak wrote:Gork and Mork are incarnated as cunningly brutal and brutally cunning, right? Sounds like Khorne and Tzeentch rip-offs to me turned slowed by the Ork brain...
Arguably, Khorne is a weaker variant of Gork . Back when the Orks were created, the chaos gods were in their infancy and Slaanesh had certainly not been born yet. Back then, they were the Krork mind you.
Funny enough there was a piece of fluff suggesting that Gork was actually Khorne, but Orks simply saw it has Gork, a big, meant and tough ork.
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Post by: blood reaper
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD ! and i like tzeentch a bit.  
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Post by: Temujin
I'm torn between Tzeentch and Slaanesh. In fluff terms I might lean slightly towards the Changer of Ways, but I much prefer Slaaneshi daemons (the Forgeworld Keeper of Secrets is up there with the MK II Cobra as my favourite ever model).
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Post by: xxmatt85
Change Real Change  .
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Post by: SagesStone
Tzeencth definitely.
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Post by: baroncrowle
Tzeentch because having a parrot for a Greater Daemon is always a win
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Post by: SpeedingParticle
Tzeentch are pretty cool. I mean at least they LOOK like they shower!!!
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Post by: Devastator
chuck norris
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Post by: Krauser
Devastator wrote:chuck norris
He's not a chaos god!
he's one of the old old one that created the old ones which created the 40k universe.
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Post by: KamikazeCanuck
Jimsolo wrote:I totally take back my comments, Canuck. I reread my info from my sources, and I had my supposition ass backwards. *bow* Forgiveness please.
s'ok. I think of Korne as the God of killing. All Killing involves death but not all death involves killing.
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Post by: Jimsolo
True true. As for my personal pick, I went with Nurgle. The thing i like most about Nurgle is that those affected by him see their infections as a blessing. Khornate cultists still don't want to die, and live with the ever growing knowledge that their dark god makes no distinction between them and their victims. Both of their skulls will wind up on the skull throne one day. Tzeentch's followers understand that everything is transitory, and the guy who sits on the top of the pile one day might be the sacrificial lamb the next. And has already been stated, Slaaneshi cultists get so MUCH experience that they get burned out. Nurgle gives his followers the blessing of madness, because they truly don't seem to realize the horror of what has happened to them. In point of fact, they often seem jovial and good natured, from what I've read. So there's my pick, Big Papa Nurgle.
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Post by: KamikazeCanuck
Nurgle's scary because he's within all of us. He claims every virus and bacterium is his agent. Every sniffle and cough could be him coming for you. He's also the oldest god.
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Post by: Beer_&_Bolters
While Nurgle isn't the most popular, he gets my vote. Why? he's jolly, like a decaying Santa.
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Post by: Extinction Angel
Tzeentch, the god of A.D.D.!
All of the Chaos gods are double edged swords seeing as how you sacrifice your immortal soul to them, but as long as I have to be eternally damned, I'm going to gain as much knowledge as possible.
Sex, drugs, rock 'n roll? I can enjoy those things without Slaanesh's help. Unlocking the mysteries of the universe? Little beyond my normal abilities.
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Post by: Sasori
Nurgle. He and his followers are a lot more jovial than the other Daemons.
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Post by: VikingScott
garret wrote:Malal.
Beat me to it.
As soon as i saw this thread i thought that only the so-called '4 chaos gods' would be the options.
And i was right!
Malal the God of renegades, It which hates all other chaos.
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Post by: KamikazeCanuck
VikingScott wrote:garret wrote:Malal.
As soon as i saw this thread i thought that only the so-called '4 chaos gods' would be the options.
And i was right!
Malal the God of renegades, It which hates all other chaos.
He's no longer Cannon cuz he was never owned by GW.
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Post by: Gorskar.da.Lost
I'm partial to a bit of Nurgle myself, he has such a great sense of humour. You should hear his jokes.
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Post by: KamikazeCanuck
Ya, how can Papa Nurgle be losing this thing?
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Post by: VikingScott
KamikazeCanuck wrote:VikingScott wrote:garret wrote:Malal.
Beat me to it.
As soon as i saw this thread i thought that only the so-called '4 chaos gods' would be the options.
And i was right!
Malal the God of renegades, It which hates all other chaos.
He's no longer Cannon cuz he was never owned by GW.
Yeah i know because the guy who made it left GW.
But if it was never owned by Gw then why do i have a fantasy roleplay book where Malal is listed as a Chaos God?
This book was made by GW.
And there are the lesser gods. But they just don't get the coverage.
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Post by: Nitros14
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Ya, how can Papa Nurgle be losing this thing?
Nurgle can't disease that which has no form
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Post by: Darkchild
Khorne. If you have to ask why, you clearly need to be hit in the face by a chainaxe.
Darkchild
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Post by: KamikazeCanuck
VikingScott wrote:KamikazeCanuck wrote:VikingScott wrote:garret wrote:Malal.
Beat me to it.
As soon as i saw this thread i thought that only the so-called '4 chaos gods' would be the options.
And i was right!
Malal the God of renegades, It which hates all other chaos.
He's no longer Cannon cuz he was never owned by GW.
Yeah i know because the guy who made it left GW.
But if it was never owned by Gw then why do i have a fantasy roleplay book where Malal is listed as a Chaos God?
This book was made by GW.
And there are the lesser gods. But they just don't get the coverage.
Weird. What year is that book?
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Post by: Melissia
Krauser wrote:He's not a chaos god!
No, he's a gakky actor with an ego that rivals Steve Jobs'.
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Post by: VikingScott
KamikazeCanuck wrote:VikingScott wrote:KamikazeCanuck wrote:VikingScott wrote:garret wrote:Malal.
Beat me to it.
As soon as i saw this thread i thought that only the so-called '4 chaos gods' would be the options.
And i was right!
Malal the God of renegades, It which hates all other chaos.
He's no longer Cannon cuz he was never owned by GW.
Yeah i know because the guy who made it left GW.
But if it was never owned by Gw then why do i have a fantasy roleplay book where Malal is listed as a Chaos God?
This book was made by GW.
And there are the lesser gods. But they just don't get the coverage.
Weird. What year is that book?
The copyright says: 1988.
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Post by: shaunzo
Its my understanding that since time does not exist in warp space that the chaos gods have always been and have never been... and true, gork probably did exist before Khorne but Khorne easily surpasses gork in power, in fact its possible that gork may have become Khorne and is now just one aspect of him (just my speculation). The power of conflict, an infinite universe in a constant state of conflict, is what powers Khorne. My faves are Khorne and Slaanesh... both come from desire... the desire to indulge every sense beyond the limits and the desire to mindlessly destroy everything and everyone just for the sake of doing it.
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Post by: MekanobSamael
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Post by: CKO
Slaanesh all the way, how can you choose another god when you can have one that wants you to pursue whatever it is that gives you pleasure?
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Post by: Slarg232
To tell the truth, I am kinda shocked that it is as close as it is. I figured that Khorne would be way up there.
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Post by: Nitros14
Slarg232 wrote:To tell the truth, I am kinda shocked that it is as close as it is. I figured that Khorne would be way up there.
Tzeentch is probably hacking the polls. He's sneaky like that.
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Post by: Nakis
I personally prefer Khorne. He doesn't pull punches, he doesn't actively beat around the bush. He punches you as hard as he can, and tears the bush up going for the throat.
Beaky would be curious for awhile, but then you slowly go mad trying to predict all the ways you could die, only to have your sanity break as you realized he wanted you to go insane.
Slaneesh...ehh, I got better things to do than figure out that someone else's pleasure is my decapitation and desecration.
Nurgle is Nurgle. I'm sure he's a great guy, but I just don't see eye to eye with him. Yeah, everything dies, but the whole "I'm a great big greasepot full of bacteria which have claimed a million worlds, and I've named them all" thing would be a bit creepy. Then Emprahmas comes around, and you really, really don't want to open his present to you, but you kinda gotta to avoid hurting his feelings, and it's puppy, but it's a really sick puppy. And you want to put him down, but Nurgle would know...
It's not him, it's me.
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Post by: Erasoketa
Blood for the Blood God!
The votes amount is quite similar for all of them, I don't know why I thought there would be bigger differences.
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Post by: Morgrim
Nitros14 wrote:The Chaos Gods are nothing more than a reflection of every mortal's deepest darkest emotions.
So the question is really, what emotion resonates most with you?
It's less Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle, Slaanesh and more
Anger?
Hope?
Despair?
Desire?
Nitros has nailed it. It is less what you'd chose and more what your are.
Which is why it doesn't matter if I may will it otherwise, that I know the horrors of She Who Thirsts...
I have and always have craved sensation in all its forms. Thus my soul is damned to Slaanesh.
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Post by: Jimsolo
Nakis, that's one of the funniest things I have seen on this forum.
And yeah, they are really close, which surprises me as well. I see a lot of people playing Khorne, but I guess the fan favorite of the Chaos deities is a little more even.
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Post by: Nitros14
Jimsolo wrote:Nakis, that's one of the funniest things I have seen on this forum.
And yeah, they are really close, which surprises me as well. I see a lot of people playing Khorne, but I guess the fan favorite of the Chaos deities is a little more even.
A lot of people WANT to play Tzeentch but his army sucks so they stay away
For Chaos Marines anyway, I see a lot of Fateweaver Daemon armies. Certainly more than Khorne based ones.
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Post by: Space_Potato
Beer_&_Bolters wrote:While Nurgle isn't the most popular, he gets my vote. Why? he's jolly, like a decaying Santa.
This. A thousand times this.
S_P
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Post by: KamikazeCanuck
VikingScott wrote:KamikazeCanuck wrote:VikingScott wrote:KamikazeCanuck wrote:VikingScott wrote:garret wrote:Malal.
Beat me to it.
As soon as i saw this thread i thought that only the so-called '4 chaos gods' would be the options.
And i was right!
Malal the God of renegades, It which hates all other chaos.
He's no longer Cannon cuz he was never owned by GW.
Yeah i know because the guy who made it left GW.
But if it was never owned by Gw then why do i have a fantasy roleplay book where Malal is listed as a Chaos God?
This book was made by GW.
And there are the lesser gods. But they just don't get the coverage.
Weird. What year is that book?
The copyright says: 1988.
Ah, well that explains it. I like the idea. The fact that Chaos's all destroying power even applies to itself.
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Post by: Quintinus
I don't recall "Slaves to Darkness" talking about Malal. Maybe "Lost and the Damned". Too bad I don't have that one. 
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Post by: karimabuseer
Tzeentch used to rule, till the other powers united and fricked him up. He then broke his staff 
Malal has been renamed malice in the new fluff, due to copyright. His greater daemon is summoned by the Sons of Malice (Heroes of the Space Marines-The Labyrinth.).
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Post by: Slarg232
karimabuseer wrote:Tzeentch used to rule, till the other powers united and fricked him up. He then broke his staff
Malal has been renamed malice in the new fluff, due to copyright. His greater daemon is summoned by the Sons of Malice (Heroes of the Space Marines-The Labyrinth.).
New as in we will be able to field his forces in the next edition, or will he remain outside of playability?
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Post by: Happygrunt
Nitros14 wrote:The Chaos Gods are nothing more than a reflection of every mortal's deepest darkest emotions.
So the question is really, what emotion resonates most with you?
It's less Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle, Slaanesh and more
Anger?
Hope?
Despair?
Desire?
Nurgle, I love zombies.
But the way this man put it, I would go with hope.
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Post by: somecallmeJack
Im surprised Tzeentch has as much of the vote as he does.
"or vote for change.... vote Tzeetntch"
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Post by: irtaco
Tzeentch.
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Post by: Dark
Malal/Malice... if not, Khorne shall be
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Post by: Pvt. Jet
Tzeentch, change we can believe in...
Oh, that's too perfect. :p He's awesome, and the quotes are great. :p
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Post by: Cryonicleech
Khorne.
Whilst Slaanesh was busy indulging, Nurgle in spreading plague, and Tzeentch in endlessly scheming, one Chaos God had to keep the blood flowing.
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Post by: karimabuseer
Slarg232 wrote:karimabuseer wrote:Tzeentch used to rule, till the other powers united and fricked him up. He then broke his staff
Malal has been renamed malice in the new fluff, due to copyright. His greater daemon is summoned by the Sons of Malice (Heroes of the Space Marines-The Labyrinth.).
New as in we will be able to field his forces in the next edition, or will he remain outside of playability?
I doubt he'll be playable. Limited to books by the looks of things
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Post by: Extinction Angel
Nitros14 wrote:
A lot of people WANT to play Tzeentch but his army sucks so they stay away
Hasn't stopped me! I do use the SW rules for my Tzeetch marines from time to time when I'm playing someone I don't like, or really want to clobber.
Nitros14 wrote:
I see a lot of Fateweaver Daemon armies. Certainly more than Khorne based ones.
I think you'll find plenty of Fatecrusher lists combining both Tzeentch and Khorne. With Demons you really have to spread the love around, in 40k at least. It's hard to do well with a mono-god list. Nurgle probably does it best, but even then it's tough.
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Post by: Slarg232
karimabuseer wrote:Slarg232 wrote:karimabuseer wrote:Tzeentch used to rule, till the other powers united and fricked him up. He then broke his staff
Malal has been renamed malice in the new fluff, due to copyright. His greater daemon is summoned by the Sons of Malice (Heroes of the Space Marines-The Labyrinth.).
New as in we will be able to field his forces in the next edition, or will he remain outside of playability?
I doubt he'll be playable. Limited to books by the looks of things
Ah, I suppose thats a good thing. They barely do anything with the four they've got....
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Post by: Nitros14
Tzeentch is liable to expend you like the pawn you are when you outlive your usefulness.
I might add something to this point. The primary tenet of the Tzeentchian faith is that everything can be changed. Nothing is inevitable, including your own demise. Tzeentch isn't known as the architect of fate because he has any respect for fate. Rather he's the architect because he builds his own fate and expects his followers to do the same.
It's NURGLY talk to sit on your hands and wait for the end and to blindly follow. Anyone with the true spirit of hope, change and ambition that Tzeentch represents would be trying to outmaneuver their own god and change their fate so that they aren't cast aside.
There's actually some amusing fluff about the scheming that goes on between Lords of Change and Tzeentch and how they try to trick eachother.
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Post by: Jimsolo
I dunno. It seems that the chaos god of change would (eventually) cast you aside. All things being equal. It always seemed to me like Tzeentch and Khorne's followers were too easily cast aside. From my observations, Nurglish and Slaaneshi followers were actually rewarded based on service and usefulness, rather than cast away whenever it suited the deity in question. In other words, it seems like Slaanesh and Nurgle place some kind of value on their followers. That fact alone was what guided my decision. The deciding factor between those two was that I felt Slaanesh's powers came at too high a price.
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Post by: Nitros14
Jimsolo wrote:I dunno. It seems that the chaos god of change would (eventually) cast you aside. All things being equal. It always seemed to me like Tzeentch and Khorne's followers were too easily cast aside. From my observations, Nurglish and Slaaneshi followers were actually rewarded based on service and usefulness, rather than cast away whenever it suited the deity in question. In other words, it seems like Slaanesh and Nurgle place some kind of value on their followers. That fact alone was what guided my decision. The deciding factor between those two was that I felt Slaanesh's powers came at too high a price.
Tzeentch only casts you aside if you, intentionally or unintentionally, fall into his schemes and give him the opportunity to gain by sacrificing you.
The reason Ahriman is so highly favoured by Tzeentch is precisely because he doesn't acknowledge Chaos as his master and dedicates all his considerable intellect into scheming for more knowledge, power and mastery of his own fate. Tzeentch actually appreciates his own followers being extremely ambitious, manipulative and basically giving him the finger, because by acting as such they embody everything he represents and increase his power in the warp by their reflection in it.
Similarly, Tzeentch is the patron god of Liars and Manipulators. So when Magnus the Red proclaims to the Thousand Sons:
"The minds of Gods are not for mortals to know or to judge. Accept that Tzeentch has a place for us all and be happy in the part you have to play."
This is actually a bald-faced lie to the entire Legion. Only the stupid or the weak would believe that, and those that do are pawns to be expended in the Great Game, rather than the true disciples of Tzeentch who would pretend to accept it and scheme to subvert it.
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Post by: Jimsolo
Good point. But that's like walking a tightrope made of razorwire over a vat of chilled alcohol. No one can keep balancing forever. And when you do fall, it's going to be a kind of pain you can't begin to imagine.
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Post by: Nitros14
Jimsolo wrote:Good point. But that's like walking a tightrope made of razorwire over a vat of chilled alcohol. No one can keep balancing forever. And when you do fall, it's going to be a kind of pain you can't begin to imagine.
The path of the Changer of Ways is not for the stupid nor the faint of heart or the weak of spirit...
Tzeentch wrote:Be strong, only the strong are welcome.
-Libra Chaotica
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Post by: aka_tizz
Having Tzeentch as your master is like playing an eternal game of chess against a team of 10000000000 Gari Kasparov, and actually believe you can win. Actually it all comes down to your self-confidence.
Nurgle follower - "I'm too small to evade my fate and try to fight, i'd rather stay put and let it come"
Tzeentch follower : "I will take him on with everything i've got"
That, and it's actually funny to read your enemies minds, or point a finger at them, say "BOOM" and watch them blow into 100 pieces
Jimsolo wrote:Good point. But that's like walking a tightrope made of razorwire over a vat of chilled alcohol. No one can keep balancing forever. And when you do fall, it's going to be a kind of pain you can't begin to imagine.
Yes, but this is the same for every God. Sooner or later, any of their followers will fail. Except Abaddon. He's actually the Champion of Fail. 13 times over. He makes gaining from failing art
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Post by: Jimsolo
Rather than sit on their hands and take what's coming, I think that Nurglites take their fate and turn it around. By using their own inevitable decay as a weapon, they manage to A) prolong their own life despite their decay, and B) speed the demise of their enemies along. Seems like a decent plan to me.
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Post by: aka_tizz
Jimsolo wrote:Rather than sit on their hands and take what's coming, I think that Nurglites take their fate and turn it around. By using their own inevitable decay as a weapon, they manage to A) prolong their own life despite their decay, and B) speed the demise of their enemies along. Seems like a decent plan to me.
I actually meant fighting against the fate that's been given to them by their own God, not by their enemies. But you are right in what you said
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Post by: CrazyThang
I used to love Papa Nurgle but lately I'm being drawn more towards Khorne. I suppose I was reading too much about Kharn :/ Now theres a fun guy! But I do like all the Chaos gods pretty dang close to equal.
Oh and someone mentioned that Nurgle was the first Chaos god. Nope, of the four it was Khorne.
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Post by: Nitros14
Tzeentch is described as the Chaos god of Change, Ambition, Knowledge, Hope and Sorcery. His titles include the Changer of Ways, the Architect of Fate and the Great Sorceror. Tzeentch excels in subtle machinations and is patron to schemers and conspirators of all sorts and he favours the clever over the strong.
Born out of the survivalist emotion of Hope, Tzeentch is the greatest of the four great Chaos Gods of the Warp. Tzeentch is the Warp God of change, sorcery, Machiavellian scheming, power craving and subtle manipulation. He bears the titles of "the Changer of Ways", "the Architect of Fate", "the Weaver of Destiny", "the Herald of Hope", "the Grand Schemer", "the Great Conspirator", "the Great Mutator" and "the Lord of Sorcery"
The emotion that is most closely associated with Tzeentch is hope. Tzeentch represents the hopeful dreams and aspirations of mortals run entirely out of control. He is the will to change and evolve, to improve and to build, to cunningly outmaneuver others. Anyone who ever hoped to improve their station in life unknowingly empowers Tzeentch. It is in the hearts of those with the strongest desire to prevail that Tzeentch whispers his insidious promise: the means to life eternal for those unwilling to accept death and oblivion as inevitable. This refusal to accept the inevitable makes Tzeentch the opposite and nemesis of the Chaos God Nurgle.
There is a way through the coming darkness.
But to find it we must change.
We must change and change until Change is our master. For nothing neither god nor mortal can hold that which has no form.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
The Chaos Gods are nothing more than a reflection of every mortal's deepest darkest emotions.
So the question is really, what emotion resonates most with you?
It's less Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle, Slaanesh and more
Anger?
Hope?
Despair?
Desire?
Tzeentch is much more of a creator than Nurgle. Nurgle's powers are fear and despair but also stagnation, apathy and acceptance of what is.
Tzeentch is a blazing furnace of creation. Everchanging growth and evolution. Tzeentch is creation gone wildly out of control, as all the hopes and dreams of mortals are unleashed to their fullest potential. He's constantly creating intricate plans and weaving new webs of deception. He's curiosity and knowledge taken to their farthest extremes.
You know Lords of Change come up with 100+ new names and titles for themselves every day, Horrors and Flamers recreate their bodies in a new way every few seconds
The primary tenet of the Tzeentchian faith is that everything can be changed. Nothing is inevitable, including your own demise. Tzeentch isn't known as the architect of fate because he has any respect for fate. Rather he's the architect because he builds his own fate and expects his followers to do the same.
It's NURGLY talk to sit on your hands and wait for the end and to blindly follow. Anyone with the true spirit of hope, change and ambition that Tzeentch represents would be trying to outmaneuver their own god and change their fate so that they aren't cast aside.
There's actually some amusing fluff about the scheming that goes on between Lords of Change and Tzeentch and how they try to trick eachother.
Tzeentch only casts you aside if you, intentionally or unintentionally, fall into his schemes and give him the opportunity to gain by sacrificing you.
The reason Ahriman is so highly favoured by Tzeentch is precisely because he doesn't acknowledge Chaos as his master and dedicates all his considerable intellect into scheming for more knowledge, power and mastery of his own fate. Tzeentch actually appreciates his own followers being extremely ambitious, manipulative and basically giving him the finger, because by acting as such they embody everything he represents and increase his power in the warp by their reflection in it.
Similarly, Tzeentch is the patron god of Liars and Manipulators. So when Magnus the Red proclaims to the Thousand Sons:
"The minds of Gods are not for mortals to know or to judge. Accept that Tzeentch has a place for us all and be happy in the part you have to play."
This is actually a bald-faced lie to the entire Legion. Only the stupid or the weak would believe that, and those that do are pawns to be expended in the Great Game, rather than the true disciples of Tzeentch who would pretend to accept it and scheme to subvert it.
The path of the Changer of Ways is not for the stupid nor the faint of heart or the weak of spirit...
Tzeentch wrote:
Be strong, only the strong are welcome.
-Libra Chaotica
You know all this gives me an idea. I should start a book on the nature of Tzeentch! NEW PROJECT COMMENCING.
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Post by: Slarg232
Tzeentch schemes to no end, because the end of schemes would be the end of tzeentch, that would be an interesting book.
Also, can you find the entire Libre Chaotica? It would be an interesting read.
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Post by: Nitros14
Slarg232 wrote:Tzeentch schemes to no end, because the end of schemes would be the end of tzeentch, that would be an interesting book.
Also, can you find the entire Libre Chaotica? It would be an interesting read.
I own the entire Libra Chaotica, you can buy it on Amazon.
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Post by: Manchu
Slaanesh is the most interesting of them and my favorite. But S/He's been done to death (well, Her/His cults have anyway) in the mostly banal books and not to interesting effect. Tzeentch comes in second for me but mostly because of how vivid and strange His servants are. Next comes Nurgle who is interesting because of His twisted "benevolence" but also overdone in the fiction. Last IMHO is Khorne, Chaos God of the Obvious.
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Post by: CrazyThang
Yay I'm finally home and waited all day to post this: 
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Post by: Slarg232
Nitros14 wrote:Slarg232 wrote:Tzeentch schemes to no end, because the end of schemes would be the end of tzeentch, that would be an interesting book.
Also, can you find the entire Libre Chaotica? It would be an interesting read.
I own the entire Libra Chaotica, you can buy it on Amazon.
No internet copy?
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Post by: sir mongo
Nurgle with support of Khorne.
What Khorne kills Nurgle brings back. Never ending Marine Factory.
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Post by: Nitros14
sir mongo wrote:Nurgle with support of Khorne.
What Khorne kills Nurgle brings back. Never ending Marine Factory.
The Planet of the Sorcerors is a neverending Marine factory. The Thousand Sons' Sorcerors summon and bind the souls of their dead marines back into more power armour tombs of dust. They serve eternally!
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Post by: sir mongo
Nitros14 wrote:sir mongo wrote:Nurgle with support of Khorne.
What Khorne kills Nurgle brings back. Never ending Marine Factory.
The Planet of the Sorcerors is a neverending Marine factory. The Thousand Sons' Sorcerors summon and bind the souls of their dead marines back into more power armour tombs of dust. They serve eternally!
Thousand Sons' are mindless drones, controlled by a Sorceror who is afraid of fighting.
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Post by: Morgrim
Less 'afraid of fighting' and more 'has a brain'.
"Now, I can go toe to toe with an enemy and let them hack at me with weapons, or I can stay behind some difficult to damage unflinching warriors and blast the enemy with lightning while remaining untouchable..."
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Post by: Black Corsair
BLOOOD FOR THE BLOOOOD GOD!!!!!! BLERELBLRERLELRELRELBERE!!!!
(a little hint of my poll vote)
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Post by: Noobtodagame
Nurgle of course.
The chaos god of life through death. Whats not to love with that duality?
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Post by: Melissia
I want to like Tzeentch, but mutation is not my idea of a good time.
Khorne may be a bastard, but he is straightforward and honest.
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Post by: Nitros14
Melissia wrote:I want to like Tzeentch, but mutation is not my idea of a good time.
Khorne may be a bastard, but he is straightforward and honest.
You just don't realize how useful three extra mouths (one of which is inside out and one of which has an arm growing out of it) are.
Of course the Thousand Sons Sorcerors solved the issue by fusing themselves to their armour with the Rubric and freeing themselves from mutation, just do that!
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Post by: Jimsolo
Now, I don't know that much about some of the Chaos histories...are the Rubric marines like free thinking individuals trapped in a life AS their own power armor, or are they instead just mindless golems animated by the souls of their former wearers?
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Post by: Wyvern
Jimsolo wrote:Now, I don't know that much about some of the Chaos histories...are the Rubric marines like free thinking individuals trapped in a life AS their own power armor, or are they instead just mindless golems animated by the souls of their former wearers?
Their bodies were turned to dust, and their Souls are trapped inside their armour. They are mindless automatons, guided by the Sorcerers who are also sealed in their armour, but were made much more powerful by the Rubric.
Tzeentch is definitely my favourite. He is the most interesting by far, and is the most intelligent of the gods, his ultimate plan and reasons for his manipulations are the hardest to discern.
Khorne is too blunt and simple. He's admirable for his single minded devotion, but it doesnt particularly endear him to me.
Nurgle is too pessimistic, despite the fact he and all his daemons are usually quite jubilant (Isnt there a constant ring of dancing around the equator of his capital daemon world?). He is too accepting of the enivitable, which directly contrasts Tzeentch.
Slaanesh I find hard to decide on. I like that He/She manipulates you through what you desire, and the Divine Comedy references in gaining access to his throne in his warp realm. But the way He/She manipulates isnt as clever as Tzeentch. And Tzeentch also lets his followers pursue their own goals, rather than simply fufilling his all the time. As long as their goals are beneficial to him in some way, like in the case of Arihman.
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Post by: Nitros14
Jimsolo wrote:Now, I don't know that much about some of the Chaos histories...are the Rubric marines like free thinking individuals trapped in a life AS their own power armor, or are they instead just mindless golems animated by the souls of their former wearers?
The Rubrics don't consciously think per se but in battle according to fluff 'something of their former battle hunger returns and they move with greater clarity and purpose'. They still have their old Space Marine instincts and battle skills. They just are utterly unquestioning and totally instinctual and fall into dormancy outside of battle when not directed by a Sorceror.
The Sorcerors still have bodies (though they're fused to their armour) and are much more intelligent and powerful post-Rubric.
Rubrics are also capable of speech when directed to speak by their Sorcerors. It comes out as a ghostly whisper.
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Post by: sniperjolly
I love nurgle the most, b/c he loves ME the most! Plus he has the coolest CSMs behind him. Can't argue with FNP!
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Post by: Nurglitch
In an argument with Plasma, Feel No Pain always loses.
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Post by: Nitros14
The poll results actually pretty much represent the supposed 'strength' of the Gods in the lore, amusingly enough.
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Post by: Jimsolo
Yeah, I am a little surprised at the results. I honestly expected Slaanesh and Khorne to be tied for first, with Tzeentch trailing in the rear.
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Post by: LDOG NZ
Khorn- mostly because it involves alot of violence and death
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Post by: Ailaros
God of perpetual orgasm? Yes, please, lord Slaanesh.
I may get wiped out in a tide of gore or plague or tzeenchey-lightning-bolts, but at least I'll die doing what I love.
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Post by: Chongara
Khrone feels a bit generic.
Slaanesh just feels.. forced. Like they just need an excuse for silly, creepy booby-demons. I dunno I've never really like the whole god of dark pleasures angle anywhere I've encountered it. Just not my thing.
Tzeentch is cool. I've always like the scheming types. Still feels a bit generic though. I mean it has a few extra dimensons to it unlike Mr. "GRRR! SKULLS AND BLOOD! KILL KILL! I'M AN EVIL WAR GOD! RAAAARGH! SKULLS AND BLOOD I SAY, SKULLS AND BLOOD."
Nurgle is just plain awesome. Certainly the whole happy abomination thing as has been elsewhere, but not quite in the same drippy I-love-my-children fashion. His stuff is kind of silly but still manages to feel like it belongs in the universe. He's a bloated bag of fun, puss and fun.
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Post by: JMZ
What can I say that hasn't been said, Slaanesh is about sensation, and desire fits what s/he feeds on. I always thought it was interesting that s/he basically entraps followers through pleasure, but then they pursue it so much that desensitization forces them to more extreme acts. Its a 'too much of a good thing is way bad' sort of god. I also <3 the daemons, daemonettes and greater daemons, and am very glad they reworked the model for the fiend.
Khorne,.... all Khorne is about is caps lock. I very much dislike caps lock, so khorne can go build his own skull pile.
Tzeentch, I dig the change approach, and the scheming is a fun addition, but I've never really liked that the greater daemon looks like an overgrown turkey-vulture thing. Cmon now, really.
Nurgle, fat and happy and smells like a porta potty,.... awesome appearance on the followers when you want to create gross looking stuff, but something about an eternity of BO makes me think otherwise.
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Post by: Ed_Bodger
I'm not particularly clever, I have a great 'adult' life and I like keeping fit.
On the other hand there are a lot of people who would benefit by getting a chain axe to the face.
Therefore Khorne by a country mile.
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Post by: Jimsolo
Ed, while I can't support your decision, I love your reasons for it! (I'm totally quoting this at the table.)
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Post by: Lupe
Tzeentch.
A being whose schemes are so complex and so far reaching that if any single grand plan would come into existence, Tzeentch would be annihilated, as his purpose for existing would be fulfilled.
A being that's incredibly scary because you don't know whether he's incredibly crazy, or very very sane...
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Post by: Ilkhan
I favor Slaanesh, then Tzeentch, then Nurgle, with Khorne coming in a distant fourth.
Chaos in general is fun for me because the gods represent potentially positive, useful emotions taken way, way too far.
Slaanesh appeals to me not because of the sex angle, or even the pleasure angle, but because Slaanesh promotes art and beauty. There's a bit somewhere that describes the effect of a Noise Marine's sonic weapon, and it notes that although the sound produced by it is murderously loud, it is never discordant, for to kill with unpleasant music would be to shame oneself in the sight of Slaanesh, or something along those lines. Slaanesh will kill you, your hive, your planet, and your system if it pleases him/her/it, but the death of every last person will, in some grisly fashion, be a work of art. There's a certain poetry in a killer dedicated entirely to the aesthetics of death.
Tzeentch as a manifestation of hope intrigues me. The 40k universe is so terribly grim that even the bright light at the end of the tunnel is lit by a being who believes in ambition for the sake of ambition, change for the sake of change, a master planner perpetually orchestrating an endless array of schemes simply because he cannot abide stability. Following him may mean the fulfillment of your greatest fantasies, but it may just as well mean unchecked mutation or a fall into spawndom, or even all of the above in random order, and no matter what path he leads you down, you will always be his pawn.
While I like the life/death, growth/decay, joviality/morbidity dichotomies of Nurgle, he doesn't fit quite as well with his compatriots because his emotional underpinnings aren't as enticing as those of the other gods. Slaanesh, Tzeentch, and even Khorne seduce mortals; Nurgle must simply collect worshipers from those too broken to accept any other power; those overwhelmed by fear, despair, apathy.
Khorne is too much of a blunt instrument for my tastes. It's true that Khorne's force can be applied with some intelligence, even subtlety, but at the end of the day brute force is still his tool of choice, and the majority view of him still paints him as the god of berserkers screaming "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE." There's not nearly so much to work with there.
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Post by: zechariahsword
Ilkhan wrote:
Slaanesh appeals to me not because of the sex angle, or even the pleasure angle, but because Slaanesh promotes art and beauty. There's a bit somewhere that describes the effect of a Noise Marine's sonic weapon, and it notes that although the sound produced by it is murderously loud, it is never discordant, for to kill with unpleasant music would be to shame oneself in the sight of Slaanesh, or something along those lines. Slaanesh will kill you, your hive, your planet, and your system if it pleases him/her/it, but the death of every last person will, in some grisly fashion, be a work of art. There's a certain poetry in a killer dedicated entirely to the aesthetics of death.
Hit the nail on the head for me.
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Post by: Azure
Nurgle, because what is more bad ass then a totally evil god who loves his followers like children? Nothing.
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Post by: Jimsolo
As much as I appreciate the necromancy on MY thread (a personal first for me! I'm so excited!) I think this one had pretty much wound down. Maybe we should just let it die.
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Post by: Viper217
Nurgle for me. As a mortal in the 40k universe, you can go anywhere in the galaxy and all there is to see is atrophy. So embrace that despair and further the decay of the universe! Death to the false emperor!
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Post by: Jayden63
Ilkhan wrote:I favor Slaanesh, then Tzeentch, then Nurgle, with Khorne coming in a distant fourth.
Chaos in general is fun for me because the gods represent potentially positive, useful emotions taken way, way too far.
Slaanesh appeals to me not because of the sex angle, or even the pleasure angle, but because Slaanesh promotes art and beauty. There's a bit somewhere that describes the effect of a Noise Marine's sonic weapon, and it notes that although the sound produced by it is murderously loud, it is never discordant, for to kill with unpleasant music would be to shame oneself in the sight of Slaanesh, or something along those lines. Slaanesh will kill you, your hive, your planet, and your system if it pleases him/her/it, but the death of every last person will, in some grisly fashion, be a work of art. There's a certain poetry in a killer dedicated entirely to the aesthetics of death.
Tzeentch as a manifestation of hope intrigues me. The 40k universe is so terribly grim that even the bright light at the end of the tunnel is lit by a being who believes in ambition for the sake of ambition, change for the sake of change, a master planner perpetually orchestrating an endless array of schemes simply because he cannot abide stability. Following him may mean the fulfillment of your greatest fantasies, but it may just as well mean unchecked mutation or a fall into spawndom, or even all of the above in random order, and no matter what path he leads you down, you will always be his pawn.
While I like the life/death, growth/decay, joviality/morbidity dichotomies of Nurgle, he doesn't fit quite as well with his compatriots because his emotional underpinnings aren't as enticing as those of the other gods. Slaanesh, Tzeentch, and even Khorne seduce mortals; Nurgle must simply collect worshipers from those too broken to accept any other power; those overwhelmed by fear, despair, apathy.
Khorne is too much of a blunt instrument for my tastes. It's true that Khorne's force can be applied with some intelligence, even subtlety, but at the end of the day brute force is still his tool of choice, and the majority view of him still paints him as the god of berserkers screaming "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE." There's not nearly so much to work with there.
I hate to just add line to a quoted long post, but this almost exactly matches my opinions as well.
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Post by: TsarNikolai
Khorne. Why?
Because Khorne has Kharn
.....and Kharn's a fun guy to be around
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Post by: Sarnath666
Undivided- I enjoy corrupting people for the sake of corruption.
Whether I use their Rage, Depression, Arrogance or Lust to turn them, I enjoy insanity in all its forms.
Order and Safety are for Squares.
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
Tzeench, cause he gives you the awesomeest powers. Ever. Plus, nothing stays constant, so ther it is. Worship Change!
Slaneesh comes a close second, followed by Nurge and Khorne.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Meh. All of them except slaanesh...
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Post by: Sarnath666
Samus_aran115 wrote:Meh. All of them except slaanesh...
Dude you need to get laid.
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Post by: Nitros14
Oh my god this thread is still alive?
THE CHAOS GODS SPEAK CLEARLY NOW.
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Post by: Asgeirr Darkwolf
They do? Huh. Last time I heard that... no... It can't be... Kairos Fateweaver? (We have an ongiong parody of him at my club...)
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Post by: Unreal Toast
I like Slaanesh but only because of the back story between 'it' and the Eldar, for instance the meeting between Fulgrim and Eldrad and the blade Fulgrim carries which is tainted by Slaanesh. i found the novel to be really interesting, and it gave me a certain curiosity to Slaanesh and all that 'it' entails.
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