looking at gw's battlewagon, i saw that it was 74$. this struck me odd as i remembered it being 69 dollars. i then looked and saw that the ork boys are now 29 dollars. The ork trukk is now 39 dollars!but if you look on the bright side at least; the ork buggies are 1$ cheaper. (whoopie )
but seriously, 74 freaking dollars for the battlewagon? WTH
Yes, GW have increased the prices worldwide. They are running out of truffles and champagne in the ivory tower and so decided to squeeze yet more from all us geeks.
It's highly necessary as the previous price increases have led to a decrease in sales, so they increased the prices again...
Here's a helpful pictoral guide to the business model currently being employed:
eff GW, that's what online retailers are for lol. I don't understand their strategy, knowing full well that almost any other store sells them for 15% less.
That being said, obviously the online retailers will also go up, so the issue remains, it just seems a bit stupid. Especially considering our dollar is very high right now and it was already over-priced relatively anyways.
Melissia wrote:Poor Canadians, paying roughly 70 USD for an item that we get for 62 USD...
The problem is, that it all adds up. that little 5 dollars we have to pay more of, turns bigger and bigger each time, with each set we buy, making us pay quite alot more than the US has to. :/
also, i did sense the sarcasm (and small bit of trollishness) melissia put
GW raised prices all over the world as of today. Different items and differing amounts of items changed in price from country to country. Consult your country's GW website or your local shop for details.
Unlike previous recent years GW did not put up a formal announcement about this increase on their website ahead of time. GW US shop managers and operators were not given official notice till two days before the increase. Thanks to independent sellers who were notified due to necessity a month ago, this news has been around the Internet for weeks now.
Three threads about this year's GW price increases have already been closed due to uncivil behavior here on Dakkadakka during the past few weeks.
My strategy as a Canuck: occasionally buy from the independent FLGS but do a lot of the buying online/on craigslist. There are always a ton of models going cheap online, the only real downside being shipping & stripping paint.
With current exchange and the discount from someplace like UK store Wayland. lootas are $19 CDN and the Battlewagon is 47.50 and the trukk is $25 instead of 40 and the shok attack gun is $22.25 instead of 40, that is almost half price!
The differences are far too large for anyone in North America who cares at all for how they spend their money to keep buying locally when such savings can be had with a little patience.
I guess if there's one thing both countries can be thankful for, it's this...
At least we're not Australia. A $20 price increase here or south of the border = a $50 price increase down-under, for no reason other than GW's redshirts believe in maintaining the British Empire
Whenever the Canadian Dollar goes above the American I just exchange my money for American dollars and go down to the state and buy some GW stuff from there. I also take a few friends and do a few other things there to. I live pretty close to the border.
metallifan wrote:An entire mall devoted to miniature companies?
No. Because I'd crap myself and giggle like an excited schoolgirl the second I stepped inside of it.
They'd definately need a loan shop in the mall, as I forsee many, many wargamers running out of cash in the first hour of their visit too.
It's called Historicon.) Even without the gaming, I'd go there just for the shopping.
The difference is, that's a temporary thing. We're talking about a fixed 0800-2200,7d/wk, 365d/yr shopping mall devoted purely to the awesomeness of the hobby
I haven't bought any WH40k items locally in the last 3-4 years. Even when shipping across the Atlantic (for free!) Maelstrom games is my buying place. Sad for the local retailers, but it's my hard earned money...
boreas wrote:I haven't bought any WH40k items locally in the last 3-4 years. Even when shipping across the Atlantic (for free!) Maelstrom games is my buying place. Sad for the local retailers, but it's my hard earned money...
Phil
I am not sure if I will be buying any more GW for a while but if I do it will certainly come from Wayland or Maelstrom in the UK. Nothing in North America can be justified as far as I am concerned. My hard earned money gets spent with discretion too.
Well, here in Canada a Land Raider costs me 75$+taxes (15%) so roughly 86$. Ordered from the UK, it's roughly 55$ shipped to my door (usually within 10 days).
GW are idiots... If it weren't that they make the only really complete miniature sci-fi wargame, I'd ditch them. Unfortunately for my wallet, no other company comes even close to the range, quality and fluff of the models. Now if the marketing, finance and game development divisions could get their heads out of their backside...
I can imagine why GW is hiking up the prices of orks. They've got to balance out the affordability of BA.
You might not agree, but I happen to think Blood angel are quite a bargain, for the quality of the miniatures. I've never seen a marine kit better than the sanguinary Guard. Those have to be some of the best models they make.
I knew there was a price rise, but I somehow missed that Battlewagons are now going for $62 USD! Weren't they just $55?
They were $57.75 like the Land Raider(s) and Defiler. It seems everything that was at the $57.75 price point is now $62 US.
OH S***, you're right! Every 57.75 model is 62 now. WTF? That's almost a five dollar increase!
Automatically Appended Next Post: WAIT FORGET THAT!!!! EVERYTHING GOT A PRICE HIKE!!! NOOOOO, the perfect trinity of the 35$ troop choice is gone!
Even the tactical squad is now 37.75 !!!! I've gotta pay that much???how dare they??
Okay,sent a polite message to customer service,haha,here read it:
Is there a real reason that almost every plastic kit you make has gone up in price? I usually set my budget around the "standard" price of a kit, and you've basically ruined it by making the sets have odd prices. $37.75 for a unit of Chaos Space Marines? Really? It's much easier to figure out 35$ than that.... Are you guys losing money or something? This price hike has a little excessive, to be honest. This is the kind of business that your customers dislike so much, don't you listen to us?
Samus_aran115 wrote:
Okay,sent a polite message to customer service,haha,here read it:
Is there a real reason that almost every plastic kit you make has gone up in price? I usually set my budget around the "standard" price of a kit, and you've basically ruined it by making the sets have odd prices. $37.75 for a unit of Chaos Space Marines? Really? It's much easier to figure out 35$ than that.... Are you guys losing money or something? This price hike has a little excessive, to be honest. This is the kind of business that your customers dislike so much, don't you listen to us?
Yea, because Customer Service is really responsible for the price hikes. I work in the retail business myself, though it's auto parts rather than plastic men for me. And to be brutally honest, I can tell you from experience -exactly- what they're going to think of that message (and how much effort - or lack thereof that they'll make to reply), but I prefer being able to post on Dakka.
Long story short, they're going to roll their eyes at you as nothing more than another pissed-off teenager. Honestly, getting mad at customer service for something that isn't up to them makes about as much sense as kicking your dog because your cat crapped on your couch, for example.
I heard about the price increase a few days before it hit. I needed either a 5e 40k rulebook, or the AOBR set as it has a condensed version in it. I heard the AOBR was going up to 120, so I bought it for 81 on the 30th of May. It's now gone up to 108 (not quite the 120 that was expected, but still much more expensive.)
Alot of items have gone up for everyone, and it seems pretty random in what they increaced.
For example: Greater daemons and soulgrinders were both £35.
Daemons are still £35, but grinders are now £37.50
Fiends: £12 - £13.50
Beast of nurgle: £12 - £15
Flamers: £12 - £15 (was going to buy 12 this week, guess not from them now)
Plastic daemon box's went from £12 - £15
plague command went up £2 too.
Nurglings went up a whole £0.50
Takes the piss if you ask me.
Dont see why they keep going with the price hikes but other nothing new.
If they started a promotional offer or something like that it might bring in more buisness.
But as it stands now, maelstrom games all the way
I bet you the price hikes are due to the supposed up-coming release of the Dark Eldar this summer. You know, the DE that they didn't want to release sooner because they weren't sure if they'd sell, on account of no one buying the outdated DE rulebook and horrendously ugly pieces of plastic turd that passed as their minis range. That couldn't be why they didn't sell. No, it must just be because the players want them utterly gone. GW would -never- apply circular logic to their marketing strategies . That's my guess as to why they're jacking prices. Because they're afraid the DE will sell poorly.
Meh, all they have to do is release a book with a few strong power builds.
In step the tournie gamers, ugly models or not, they will win.
But i say bring back skullz Or atleast some form of offer for regular customers.
Some people have been buying from them since the beginning, and they still get nothing.
But yea, thats GW's typical gakky logic towards everyone.
On a better note, need to get this LoC finished :(
Only taken me 5 days to do 1 wing XD
Also glad I grabbed my Space Puppy codex before June 1st. Codex's appear to have gone up 4.75 each. Also, I could be crazy, but I think the 5e Rulebook actually had a price decrease of .75 lol! It was 69.99 when I checked last IIRC and now its listed at 69.25.
Samus_aran115 wrote:Haha,yeah, I'm sure they will,lol. I don't care though,I feel better than if I did nothing..
Explain to me the difference though. How is chewing out a Customer Service agent that really doesn't know (or care) what things are priced at going to amount to 'doing something'? Isn't the end result going to be the same either way? That previously $70.00 kit is still going to be $110.00, regardless of whether 1 or 100 people chewed out that agent. Prices will probably stay up until GW realizes that their DE fears were quite unfounded.
If you're going to get pissed at a company, at least get pissed at the proper levels of command.
Lol stopping point? the more they sell the more they will raise prices man. why not? it's a "collection" thing, they know you have to come back to them....
On that note, You guys are puffed, in Australia we were suffering $96 For a battlewagon, it's now $102!!!
Lucky i bought 3 from wayland before hte prices went up (means i ended up getting all 3 for around $40 AUD each)
ow and templeorks, where the hell does that asain girl avatar come from, it's so transfixing
Not allways, things like this have been known to ruin much bigger companies in the past.
GW is no different.
There will be a point in which people just refuse to buy.
Samus_aran115 wrote:Haha,yeah, I'm sure they will,lol. I don't care though,I feel better than if I did nothing..
Explain to me the difference though. How is chewing out a Customer Service agent that really doesn't know (or care) what things are priced at going to amount to 'doing something'? Isn't the end result going to be the same either way? That previously $70.00 kit is still going to be $110.00, regardless of whether 1 or 100 people chewed out that agent. Prices will probably stay up until GW realizes that their DE fears were quite unfounded.
If you're going to get pissed at a company, at least get pissed at the proper levels of command.
Um,okay, dude. Just take it easy there.
I seriously doubt GW cares that much about a DE release (if there is one anyway), and most likely is just poking fun with us. They'll probably make significantly larger profits in the long run of this price hike, so I doubt they'll lower it back down.
Well, looks like I won't be expanding any of my armies from now on. Short of smaller, single mini projects (inquisitors, etc.), I guess I'm done with GW :/
Fafnir wrote:Well, looks like I won't be expanding any of my armies from now on. Short of smaller, single mini projects (inquisitors, etc.), I guess I'm done with GW :/
I wouldn't go that far. It's only a very slight increase for most things. 20 dollar set becomes 22.75. 57.75 set becomes 62 dollar set.
It's not significant enough for me to stop playing, but significant enough to make me reconsider what I'm paying for in the first place.
It costs less than a dollar to make a land raider (For GW,not us). They sell it for 60-some dollars. That's a 6000% Profit,if my arithmetic is right...Or maybe it costs more for them, but I doubt it. They own the machines that make the sprues, and bulk plastic isn't that expensive for a little plastic mold of a tank.
Vreith wrote:Rent of stores, Wages of employees, bills, Shipping & Tax would make up some of that 6000% but def not all of it, now where near
Although much of that cost comes from GW being poorly managed.
QFT.
"We're gonna blow all our money on the studio armies, make enormous terrain pieces that can't fit out the door (that involve like 300 imperial sectors), and pay out sculptors several thousand dollars to make crappy beastmen.
That's almost $5, I wouldn't call that "slight". Same with codices too, which are now $4 more expensive and for what reason? They're still mostly black and white, they're still paperbacks...back when I got into the hobby I personally thought $20 was asking for a little too much for them, it's just getting ridiculous now.
As I said, I just can't support a hobby like this on an army scale anymore. I love painting miniatures, it's great fun, but gamesworkshop has really started to cross the line. This price increase is much larger than I would have expected. I was always turned away from vehicles because of the cost, but this makes it even worse. And with the large amount of mechinization required in todays metagame, I just can't keep up. Going in, I knew that the hobby's expensive. It's something that you have to accept from hobbies. But this is getting nothing short of rediculous.
Short of pet projects and skirmish games, it looks like GW wants to remove me from their consumer base.
GW are making money off the people that see it as "its only a few dollar increase , god"
when the reality is they have just raised the price by 15%-20% or more.
That's almost $5, I wouldn't call that "slight". Same with codices too, which are now $4 more expensive and for what reason? They're still mostly black and white, they're still paperbacks...back when I got into the hobby I personally thought $20 was asking for a little too much for them, it's just getting ridiculous now.
True,but relative to the price of the set,if you set it up as a ratio: 57.75/62 and 35/37.25 ......
You get something like 0.939597 or around a 10% increase on basic infantry and about 0.931451 for tanks,which is about the same:10%
So really, with respect to the "original" cost of the set, we're paying roughly 10% more for the exact same thing. If anyone else did this (let's say..Apple,the computer manufacturer), people would care more,because their product's cost more. Not only that, but since GW is a relatively small business (compared to something like Apple inc., or even something like Mattel), their products have a limited audience, and they need to make as much money as possible from their limited customers to equal out their spending (equilibrium,or whatever).
After reviewing the evidence I compiled, I've reached the conclusion that GW can charge as much as it wants for the products it sells, and we have no say in their decision,at all . I can see why the price hike is a good idea for them, and from a business perspective, it was a good move. From a customer perspective, it was a dreadful move. I've gotta pay 10% more than usual for things I've been saving up for,great.
EVERY year after memorial day weekend, GW does their price increase....Every year.....And every year people are dumb founded and confused why a business raises prices (not that I like it either)......Geez, I remember when a can of coke was 20 cents....
spartanlegion wrote:EVERY year after memorial day weekend, GW does their price increase....Every year.....And every year people are dumb founded and confused why a business raises prices (not that I like it either)......Geez, I remember when a can of coke was 20 cents....
Sorry,haven't been falling for GW's tricks for very long. I wouldn't know.
Blitza da warboy wrote:looking at gw's battlewagon, i saw that it was 74$. this struck me odd as i remembered it being 69 dollars. i then looked and saw that the ork boys are now 29 dollars. The ork trukk is now 39 dollars!but if you look on the bright side at least; the ork buggies are 1$ cheaper. (whoopie )
but seriously, 74 freaking dollars for the battlewagon? WTH
Welcome to inflation at least the warbuggies are cheaper tough they are horrendous sculpts
Our dollar is roughly equal to $0.9 American dollars, but while you are paying $62 for a large tank, we are paying $103, where an equivalent price using equivalent currency values should have us paying $69.
Seriously, I honestly do not know why there are still people out here in AUS who pay RRP, it's stupidly over inflated.
Winter wrote:Once again, at least your not in Australia.
Our dollar is roughly equal to $0.9 American dollars, but while you are paying $62 for a large tank, we are paying $103, where an equivalent price using equivalent currency values should have us paying $69.
Seriously, I honestly do not know why there are still people out here in AUS who pay RRP, it's stupidly over inflated.
I purchase retail price because i want to support GW
Winter wrote:Once again, at least your not in Australia.
Our dollar is roughly equal to $0.9 American dollars, but while you are paying $62 for a large tank, we are paying $103, where an equivalent price using equivalent currency values should have us paying $69.
Seriously, I honestly do not know why there are still people out here in AUS who pay RRP, it's stupidly over inflated.
At least you don't live in argentina
A large tank should cost 250 pesos instead we get it for 375 thats 50% more
Even though we always find a way to make good cuality *****(i would get banned if i say what i it) even in resin so the hobby is kept alive at the cost of our innocence
Melissia wrote:Poor Canadians, paying roughly 70 USD for an item that we get for 62 USD...
Whoa!
I knew there was a price rise, but I somehow missed that Battlewagons are now going for $62 USD!
Weren't they just $55?
HOly friggin frack they really ARE $62 each. I also just recently paid (GW price of $55, though my LFGS usually undercuts the GW price by $5 or more dollars) for a battlewagon. When the hell did that take place? I hope the rest of my army isnt getting a price hike, Ill be a sad panda for sure
The biggest price hikes are going to the plastic kits, or at least that's what I've noticed. None of the metal kits I've been looking at have gone up at all.
KingCracker wrote:
HOly friggin frack they really ARE $62 each. I also just recently paid (GW price of $55, though my LFGS usually undercuts the GW price by $5 or more dollars) for a battlewagon. When the hell did that take place? I hope the rest of my army isnt getting a price hike, Ill be a sad panda for sure
Well then, it looks like you're going to be a sad Panda. Nobz, Boyz, Stormboyz, Kommandos, Tankbustas, and Lootas all got an increase of about $5 (that's 20% in some cases!). It seems to hold true for most units in other armies as well. Basically a $5 increase across the board.
Fafnir wrote:Well then, it looks like you're going to be a sad Panda. Nobz, Boyz, Stormboyz, Kommandos, Tankbustas, and Lootas all got an increase of about $5 (that's 20% in some cases!). It seems to hold true for most units in other armies as well. Basically a $5 increase across the board.
Where are you getting your numbers from? Nobz and Stromboyz stayed the same. The rest went up by $3. Exaggerate much?
Check the site. Stormboyz used to be $25 per box, now they're $30. Nobz used to be 25, also 30. Kommandos and Tankbustas were $40, now $44.75. Lootas and boyz were 23.95 (or were they $25? I remember buying my Lootas for $23.95), now they're 29.75.
It was also funny noting that the normal Dreadnaught costs more than the Venerable Dreadnaught.
A 40K tank (in Australia) costs the equivalent of a new release PC/Console game with the increase.
It's the same in the US. A new tank is now $49.50, $62 for a Land Raider or Valkyrie. These are comparable prices for new Wii and Xbox type video games.
I don't believe you can do that. Once they change the price to the new one it's the only one that shows. Unless you've recorded the old prices somewhere you'll have to go from memory. Of course, it's not much help to know the old prices anyway. Not sure what good that information is at this point except to wax nostalgic for a less expensive past.
omg thats a lot $74 is £48.15 thats a lot for a battle wagon the thing i cant under stand is that why is th battle wagon £37.50??? can anyone else not understand that
GW will never listen to a petition, let alone one to lower prices. The only thing you can do to prove that this won't work is by not buying from GW. Significantly lower your purchasing habits, or stop purchasing from GW completely. You can sign as many petitions as you want, but so long as GW still makes money, it won't matter. They're not obligated to do anything for you, and you're not entitled to anything from them.
I agree with Fafnir , GW will never care about petition even if they know you are dead serious about it.
Because they know there are plenty of others willing to pay for their product , so they lose you patronage
but there are plenty of fishes in the sea , thats how GW do their business.
As I've said, I plan to limit my GW spending from now on. If I want to buy a GW model, I'll buy in small quantities, or as bits (one thing I love about Sentry Box is that they sell individual sprues ), I'll avoid GW plastic kits (the main victems of the price increase), and focus more on metal and resin kits. If an alternative kit is available from another company, I'll buy that instead. Simple. You don't have to give up your hobby completely to voice your economic opinion.
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