((ooc) is my last post appearing...dang work computers... THE OMNISSIAH COMPELS YOU WRETCHED MACHINE)

Manchu wrote:I am not convinced. No, I am not convinced, as the rest of you seem to be, by this dubious self-sacrifice. If anything, it reminds me of the smarter, sicker scummers who'd play mind games with us Arbitors, wheedling at us for pity when Emperor knows they deserve none at all. No, I think you all should trust your instincts about this one. I know I will.

Vote: Drk_Oblitr8r

Lord of the Ghosts may very well be insane and even a heretic for all I know. His ravings are certainly damning enough, as you all clearly recognize. But I would remind you that none of us--and I realize this means even me--can be above suspicion in each other's eyes.

The fact that so many of you seem eager to absolve Drk_O of guilt in this matter astounds me and I refuse to let him off that easily. Whether it makes me unpopular with his sympathizers is immaterial to me, for I'll have done my duty to Him as I always have and always will.

Let me pose these questions: How many of us have sacrificed everything to be on this ship bound for Holy Terra? For how many of us is this the summation of all our lives' goals? And this one claims he got on by mistake? I must say again, I am not convinced.

I have not absolved anyone of guilt. I would just rather eliminate the threat I do not understand (possible 3rd party maniac assassin) before narrowing down the subjects to the threat I have more knowledge on (Genestealer Scum)

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:((ooc) is my last post appearing...dang work computers... THE OMNISSIAH COMPELS YOU WRETCHED MACHINE)

OOC: No, it isn't. Mine isn't either.

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:((ooc) is my last post appearing...dang work computers... THE OMNISSIAH COMPELS YOU WRETCHED MACHINE)

OOC: This is the only post I can see of yours since my last post before this one.

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:((ooc) is my last post appearing...dang work computers... THE OMNISSIAH COMPELS YOU WRETCHED MACHINE)

OOC: Looks like it got ate... it was showing up on the preview (and in your post log), but not in the thread itself.

IC: Aye... we should still keep our eyes on DarkO. However, according to the Emperor's Razor, one should look to the simplest theory or solution. When one hears hoof-beats, it's most likely horses for the Rough Riders, not heretically-stripped Zebras. DarkO may very well be guilty, but LoG appears more likely to be guilty for now.

Manchu wrote: am not convinced. No, I am not convinced, as the rest of you seem to be, by this dubious self-sacrifice. If anything, it reminds me of the smarter, sicker scummers who'd play mind games with us Arbitors, wheedling at us for pity when Emperor knows they deserve none at all. No, I think you all should trust your instincts about this one. I know I will.

Vote: Drk_Oblitr8r

Lord of the Ghosts may very well be insane and even a heretic for all I know. His ravings are certainly damning enough, as you all clearly recognize. But I would remind you that none of us--and I realize this means even me--can be above suspicion in each other's eyes.

The fact that so many of you seem eager to absolve Drk_O of guilt in this matter astounds me and I refuse to let him off that easily. Whether it makes me unpopular with his sympathizers is immaterial to me, for I'll have done my duty to Him as I always have and always will.

Let me pose these questions: How many of us have sacrificed everything to be on this ship bound for Holy Terra? For how many of us is this the summation of all our lives' goals? And this one claims he got on by mistake? I must say again, I am not convinced.

The deed may already be done.

I don't believe "oops I thought I was going to Baal" either, but actions speak louder than words, and words have spoken "I belive in the emperor/hive fleet" in Lord of Ghosts case at any rate.

DrkO was on the brink of death before, it's hardly a matter of coming to his defense without warrant. He really would need a great deal of skill to have been a Genestealer and done what he did. It's not impossible, but it's improbable, and we have no reason not to suspect any other person on this ship.

You guys say "know one can be above suspicion", but there are quite a few people who seem to have been "above suspicion" until this point. In truth the only people who can say they truly were not "above suspicion" are DrkO and Lord of Ghosts, at this point. I'm not saying we need to start pointing fingers everywhere, but we need to play it by probability. A Genestealer is smart enough to play a concerned citizen; and there are certainly enough people in the "concerned citizen" role here.

::EDIT:: Added quote.

You guys had posts go invisible too? Hasn't happened in this thread yet, but it's happened to me other times. Probably just the currents of the Warp.

[agreement] indeed Subject Manchu, I do concur with your thinking. Simply because my vot has changed, does not mean that Oblitr8r is now innocent in my sight.

Sometimes lessons must be learned and sacrifices must be made before genuine guilt or innocence is identified.

[conclusion] our voting of LoG shall prove either to be beneficial, or lead us to the correct target, Omnissiah allowing.

OOC: If you look at Thor's post log, it appears a post of his got eaten too. It looks like LoG is dead and doesn't know it yet.

OOC: Mekboy, I don't know if Thor will allow you to retract your vote (noticed the change in your post log). LoG might get lynched as soon as there are 8, or there might be wiggle room until the story post is up. Something to take up with him.

(OOC: I do indeed think it's 8 votes and insta-gone, Thor has the call mind ^^)

Orkeosaurus wrote:You guys say "know one can be above suspicion", but there are quite a few people who seem to have been "above suspicion" until this point.

This is the exact error I was trying to point out. We've drawn lines in the sand far too early when we should each only be sure of ourselves (for those of us who really are humans, at least) and now those lines are being wiped and re-drawn so quickly as to encompass in safety those who seem quite obviously suspicion. Lest anyone accuse me of speaking in the abstract, let me reiterate I'm talking about Drk_O here. How have we gone from "he behaves oddly and has a suspicious background" to "he's a martyr for the Emperor"? I don't know whether Lord of the Ghosts is a genestealer or not. I never heard of any Gheistos Cataclysm, or whatever. But I know this: the real genestealers would be quick to jump on the chance of laying the blame at the feet of an obvious target, especially when they themselves have already been an obvious target. Drk_O, consider this a challenge: I'd rather you can the passion play theatrics and give us some explanation about why anyone could believe that bogus story about winding up on a ship for Holy Terra by accident. I guess that's where it will have to stand, considering the mob is already bent--maybe justifiably--on lynching LotG.

Thor wrote:It does appear to be 8 votes now to lynch lord of ghosts - I'm about to head out to the glories that are on-site filming so there'll be a few hours for anyone who thinks to question the numbers to double check them.

Orkeosaurus, Gornall, Drk_Oblitr8r, Lord-Loss,Demogerg, Dark Lord Seanron, Valhallan42nd, and Mekboy have all voted for lord of ghosts.

Story post shall come when I get back as shall movement to Night Phase.

[agreement] indeed Oblitr8r, consider your survival tonight as temporary respite. If you fail to garner any kind of acceptable or believable information, I doubt the Omnissiah will be so forgiving next time...

OOC: I have a family emergency, y'all. I'm really sorry. I won't be internetting until probably late sunday. Hopefully, I won't die.

Manchu wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:You guys say "know one can be above suspicion", but there are quite a few people who seem to have been "above suspicion" until this point.

This is the exact error I was trying to point out. We've drawn lines in the sand far too early when we should each only be sure of ourselves (for those of us who really are humans, at least) and now those lines are being wiped and re-drawn so quickly as to encompass in safety those who seem quite obviously suspicion. Lest anyone accuse me of speaking in the abstract, let me reiterate I'm talking about Drk_O here. How have we gone from "he behaves oddly and has a suspicious background" to "he's a martyr for the Emperor"? I don't know whether Lord of the Ghosts is a genestealer or not. I never heard of any Gheistos Cataclysm, or whatever. But I know this: the real genestealers would be quick to jump on the chance of laying the blame at the feet of an obvious target, especially when they themselves have already been an obvious target. Drk_O, consider this a challenge: I'd rather you can the passion play theatrics and give us some explanation about why anyone could believe that bogus story about winding up on a ship for Holy Terra by accident. I guess that's where it will have to stand, considering the mob is already bent--maybe justifiably--on lynching LotG.

BrotherStynier wrote:

I have knowledge little beyond what any of us here, save the ones that killed the Captain, do about the murder. I've no real idea why it was committed, I have a theory, but that is all. As for who is next I haven't the foggiest, sure another theory or two. And with these unknowns there is a slight measure of fear, but do I let it control me? Most certainly not.

Who is it that falsely claims to be of the cloth? Manchu? Yes, his claim to have given up his job in the Arbites to become 'priestly' seems hard to swallow, but if the Emperor guided him so be it. I turn to him for fellowship based off his claimed past, he seems to fit the bill for an Arbites and thus far I've no reason to think other wise. Like I've little reason to question Stubby or even Valhallan. You how ever, I don't know anything thing about, even if its but a lie. Eventually one of us will discover the truth, and with a bit of luck and guidance from the Emperor perhaps it won't be too late.



It is often said the first answer regardless of being premature is often a correct one. I thank you for your tact and honesty in these dark times. So Manchu you say?

Manchu what say you good sir? What was your last job and when did you realize your calling?

(OOC) I reposted this in the event you may have missed this jab at you. If not well

It has been some time and the night is coming. Are you ignoring this question Manchu? This was asked much earlier and you dodged it. So I ask again.

Manchu what say you good sir? What was your last job and when did you realize your calling?

So LoG is lynched then, it seems to me that we are going to be wrong about him being the culprit.

Edit spelling

Mekboy wrote:Wait.. I've just realised. He's a psyker, right? And there's only one role that can be a psyker? Therefore:

Unvote: Lord of Ghosts
Vote: Drk_Oblitr8r

To me it seems you were just looking for an excuse to not destroy LoG. How do you know he is not a psyker? Protecting one of your own Mekboy or Should I say Genesteelerboy?

: Peers :

Ultrafool wrote:So LoG is lynched then, it seems to me that we are going to be wrong about him being the culprit.

Well, probability says we won't lynch a Genestealer on the first day. Unfortunately.

I don't see why LoG is a worse shot than anyone else, though.

Manchu wrote:This is the exact error I was trying to point out. We've drawn lines in the sand far too early when we should each only be sure of ourselves (for those of us who really are humans, at least) and now those lines are being wiped and re-drawn so quickly as to encompass in safety those who seem quite obviously suspicion. Lest anyone accuse me of speaking in the abstract, let me reiterate I'm talking about Drk_O here. How have we gone from "he behaves oddly and has a suspicious background" to "he's a martyr for the Emperor"?

But for everyone else (besides Lord of Ghosts, obviously) we've never even gone to suspicion.

You guys are still focusing too much on DrkO. How many other people are on this ship? 13 or something, who have yet to be investigated in any sense?

lord of the ghosts wrote:For have you not heard of the great stories about my kind!!
May you know of my suffering!!
1000s of peple have this-this-this-mutagen!!
Emperor forgive me...
*mutters to himself*

lord of the ghosts wrote:My 'plight'
MY 'PLIGHT'
my 'plight'
most people fall to this 'plight'
some of them costing many lives, planets even
Yet I, thank His forgiveness, suvived this 'plight'
some of my kin have made something of this 'plight'
Some...
some...
*mutters more*

lord of the ghosts wrote:You are making a mistake!!
You shall be sorry, my 'plight' is clear to you!!
May He do my will, I have failed...I have 5 votes damming me.
I will say more, may these words save me, and you all.
The Gheistos Cataclysm
He was one of my kin.
HE FAILED, COSTING A WHOLE PLANET!!!
*starts to weep*
*Emperor forgive me*

I have heard of the 'Ghiestos Cataclysm' from someone (OOC: 5th ed rulebook, Daemons bit). Apparently a psyker was possessed and summoned an army of daemon which destroyed the world. It's pretty obvious with this, and the whole 'plight' thing that he's a psyker.

It's worth noting that Genestealers are known for having many psykers in their ranks as well.

Eh. On the off chance the Lynch hasn't already gone through, I Vote: No Lynch.

Orkeosaurus wrote: Well, probability says we won't lynch a Genestealer on the first day. Unfortunately. I don't see why LoG is a worse shot than anyone else, though.

But for everyone else (besides Lord of Ghosts, obviously) we've never even gone to suspicion.

You guys are still focusing too much on DrkO. How many other people are on this ship? 13 or something, who have yet to be investigated in any sense?

I agree. I did not think that LoG would have been lynched so soon. However, I will not lose any sleep at his death. I suspected him for two reasons: His comments about the "Hive Fleet" and "plight" and certain travler's desires to shift suspicion away from him onto DarkO. In my mind that made him more of a likely suspect. It is unlikely that we will be perfect in finding the evil among us. However, we must be logical and as we make sacrifices of those we feel to be tainted, we should observe the patterns of voting and behavior. If we make mistakes, so be it. We must use them and the Emperor's divine guidance to make better choices each day, lest we fail to uncover the traitors. If it turns out that LoG was in fact loyal, that is a tragedy, but one that rests almost soley on him. He did very little to temper our suspicions, and in many cases simply made them worse. Maybe his demise will allow us to focus on the less obvious traitor(s) in our midst.

Once again, these are the suspicions I have of members of our party:

LoG: 25% of being loyal. See above (my only reservation is if he might be a sanctioned pysker who is just addled).
Manchu: 50% of being loyal as I see no current problems with his story or actions.
DarkO: 60% of being loyal. His actions earlier would either make him the smartest or the absolute dumbest Xenos ever.
Orkesaurus: 40% of being loyal as his story of survival with no limbs seems somewhat suspect.
Ultrafool: 30% of being loyal as I do not know what to make of his story about his hidden "brother". They could be the very traitors themselves
Mekboy: 40% of being loyal as he was the last person to vote for LoG
Valhallan: 40% of being loyal as he was the last person to vote for DarkO
Dark Lord Seanron: 35% of being loyal as he was quick to throw DarkO under the bus when things were first heating up against LoG
Airman: 40% of being loyal as he wanted to dispose of the body
Stynier: 50% of being loyal as I see no current problems with his story or actions.
Gwar!: 45% of being loyal as he is almost too quiet. And he still smells like troll.
Demogerg: 45% of being loyal. He seems to know too much about the heretical Xenos.
Lord-Loss: 40% of being loyal. He follows everyone elses votes too much.
Frenzied Potato: 45% of being loyal. He also has been too quiet.


OOC: Wall of Text crit...

Sorry about my post being eaten (I blame Gwar!). But, for those that PMed me the question and asked it here I shall channel a little bit of Gwar! and offer up the following from the rules posting.

Thor665 wrote:
3) Lynching will require a simple majority of votes. Once a player has reached the necessary majority, their pleas are useless and any attempts to unvote will be unheeded. Thus, as soon as any player has a majority vote that player will be lynched and all subsequent voting does not count. Feel free to post other thoughts while waiting for the lynch scene if you desire. With 7 alive 4 votes are required to lynch. With 3 alive, 2 votes would be required. Ect. ect.

Story post shall follow...

OOC: Raise a toast...

OOC: I LIEK CERIAL!

Thor665 wrote:Sorry about my post being eaten (I blame Gwar!). But, for those that PMed me the question and asked it here I shall channel a little bit of Gwar! and offer up the following from the rules posting.

Thor665 wrote:
3) Lynching will require a simple majority of votes. Once a player has reached the necessary majority, their pleas are useless and any attempts to unvote will be unheeded. Thus, as soon as any player has a majority vote that player will be lynched and all subsequent voting does not count. Feel free to post other thoughts while waiting for the lynch scene if you desire. With 7 alive 4 votes are required to lynch. With 3 alive, 2 votes would be required. Ect. ect.

Story post shall follow...

Okay. Sorry for not noticing that.

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Day 1 has Ended!
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Orkeosaurus, Gornall, Drk_Oblitr8r, Lord-Loss, Demogerg, Dark Lord Seanron, Valhallan42nd, and Mekboy all turned on lord of the ghosts. With quick nods of agreement they sprang upon him. He shouted in shock and protested his innocence as they dragged him down and ended his heretical wails with a few quick applications of lead pipe to cranium. Some of the rest of their fellows stood around, uncertain of the outcome. Perhaps some silently agreed with the decision whilst others thought it was obviously wrong - but the majority had made its decision. When the conflict had ended they quickly began a search of lord of the ghosts.

In his pockets they found a certificate congratulating him for three weeks on the job with no accidental Warp incursions and a large bottle of aspirin.

lord of ghosts was a Sanctioned Imperial Psyker!

With the psyker gone you feel a extra level of gloom settle around you as you realize his powers might have been useful in protecting you from the xenos threat that still lurks amongst you. You all ease away from each other and seek through the ship for a safe spot to spend the night, uncertain if you will live to see the dawn.

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Night 1 has begun. 72 hour timer begins from this post
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The Night Phase has begun - any and all of you with a Night Phase action may send it in to me at this time. At the deadline or upon receipt of all night actions (whichever comes first) I shall end the Night phase and begin Day 2.

Sweet dreams.

EDIT: I forgot it was Night Phase, Sorry

[hologram] As I said, you shall pray to the Emperor as soon as I die...
I must explain myself...
I was hired to protect the ship, we have sucpected genesteelers...
I had to go undercover as a madman to keep myself hidden...
*Emperor forgive me I have failed*
[end transmission]

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Night 1 Ends
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You all awaken and shake out the stiffness in your muscles as you head to the communal area. You grimly take an accounting of each other and realize that there is one less of you then there should be. Mekboy is missing! You all rush to his room and find it in violent turmoil after a great struggle. Mekboy lies in the middle of the floor, his eyes wide and accusatory as they seem to stare out at all of you. You commence a thorough search of his belongings and find a bag of Leman Russ Kibble Treats, the Snack Guaranteed to kick Heresy out of your Colon, under his pillow.

Mekboy was killed in the night, he was a regular Imperial Citizen

You all turn to each other and realize that once again you must make a decision today.

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Day 2 begins here, 3 week deadline begins here
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With 13 alive it is 7 to Lynch.

Too many innocent people have died.
Vote: no lynch

Poor Mekboy, I'l pray for him.

'Highly Suspicous Personal'

Drk8_Oblit: Most of us agree, that he suspicous.

Thats all I got, the thing is, that nobody suspected MekBoy and no-one disliked him.

Yeah, MekBoy was something of an odd choice. My guess is the Stealers are exploiting that.

Goddamn Wyrd. Who let one of them on the ship anyways? What if got possessed by a "Bloodkiller" or something while we were investigating the murders?

So, I still feel that Drk_Oblit is suspicous and I would have voted for him yesterday but I thought LOG was a Genestealer.

So Vote: Drk8_Oblit

Lord-Loss wrote:So, I still feel that Drk_Oblit is suspicous and I would have voted for him yesterday but I thought LOG was a Genestealer.

So Vote: Drk8_Oblit

Personally I think Drk8_Oblit is just a
scatter-brained fool who is drawing people's
attention away from the genestealers.

airman wrote:Too many innocent people have died.
Vote: no lynch

I agree that we hastily killed LotG (as I said before it was done), but we aren't responsible for Mekboy's death. At least I'm not. ::narrows eyes at Airman:: I don't see how letting the chance to try to find one of the genestealers slip past us today is going to help matters. Frankly, isn't it in the best interests of the xenos that we citizens not lynch anyone?

As I said yesterday, my Vote: Drk_Oblitr8r stands until new information arises.

No way in hell am I voting for Drk_Oblit. We have way too many other suspects who are more of a threat.

Let's see if the ship's logs can tell us anything about this psyker...

Manchu has it right, into some more evidence comes around then my vote stands.

Manchu wrote:::narrows eyes at Airman::

::narrows eyes at Manchu::

*Typing with a stump and a hook*

Alright, let's see here... on Order of the Emperor's Most Holy Orders of the Imperial Inquisition? What the feth?

*Type type type*

Alright... there seems to be a few sentences referencing a sanctioned psyker on board. Something about a representative of the Inquisition... it doesn't say they're on the ship though, it might be a false lead.

There's a small section regarding the Officio Assassinorum as well, and a note about some... "Night Lords"? They look like some sort of cult. I don't think they're related to Genestealers though, it says Ordo Malleus... and "Xenos" is aliens, right? I mean, I know xenos are aliens, but I don't remember the orders of the Inquisition anymore, and I never learned much High Gothic. It doesn't say either of these are in relation to this ship, it looks like they're part of a larger report. They might not mean anything.

::full stop::

You know about the Inquisition?

How exactly did you come across that sort of information, guardsman?

Manchu wrote:::full stop::

You know about the Inquisition?

How exactly did you come across that sort of information, guardsman?

He just said he looked up the ships logs!

They were behind the battle with the Eldar I mentioned earlier; they didn't tell us much beyond that, and that the Inquisition was to be obeyed at all times (yeah, thanks for telling us that, we couldn't have figured that out ourselves), and that there were a bunch of orders of the Inquisition (they named a few of them, but I can't remember what they were now, except I think there was a "Xenos" one), and that both this mission and this meeting were of the utmost secrecy and that we were never supposed to mention them again (which reminds me, if there actually is an Inquisition guy on board I should probably stop telling this story).

And yes, as Gwar pointed out, I looked through the ship's logs for all of the information specific to our.. uh.. conundrum?

Yes, I am well aware that you just were looking into the logs as I was standing here watching you do it. But I didn't understand why you spoke of "not remembering all the orders" of the Inquisition, like it was some offhand trivia. I didn't think Inquisitors were as loose-lipped about their internal organization as the ones you claim to have met. In my own experience, the very mention of the Inquisition is enough to drive chemmers and worse scurrying into their dens for a fortnight as well as setting every mid-grade chastener to polishing his citations while slavering over the possibility of being taken up as an enforcer. It seems odd to me that your supposedly average quadriplegic guardsman is privy to facts about the Holy Orders that Adeptus Abites considers strictly need-to-know information. And to be blabbering about all of this in front of at least two mortal enemies of the Imperium after being vowed to secrecy . . . I wonder more and more at your willingness to voice any thought that pops into your mind.

Uh... not to sound indignant, but as I said, I was a tank commander. Not regular crew, and certainly not frontline infantry.

Only officers were briefed. And like I said, we weren't briefed on much. Never even met any of the Inquisition's henchmen, much less an Inquisitor.

And no matter what I say, the Genestealers aren't getting off this ship. Battlefleet Sol won't let them past the Asteroid belt without extensive testing on everyone in the ship; and if "everyone in the ship" is two suspicious looking guys, the navigator, and a pile of corpses, they'll probably shoot them on the spot and turn the ship into scrap.

Which makes me wonder: why are they here in the first place?

That's a good question. To take out an important personage perhaps? If it was to kill a sanctioned psyker, mission accomplished--and some of you here are their unwitting accomplices. How about to kill one of the temple assassins? Or an Inquisitor?

Maybe some other cargo? I would suspect a lot of interesting things make their way to the Sol System. But what would Tyranids be after?

Space Marine geneseed, or DNA samples.

So we might have Gene-Stealer Genestealers on our hands?

Gaaaaaaakkkkkkkkk.....

Orkeosaurus wrote:So we might have Gene-Stealer Genestealers on our hands?

Gaaaaaaakkkkkkkkk.....

-Gruffly Chuckles-

The Imperial Church teachs us that we should not attempt to think like the mutation, xenos or heritic. For this is The Most Divine Majesty's Will

I guess LoG was right, we're kicking ourselves now. But his loss means two things.

We've lost an important ally, who may have been able to help.
I'm now the most suspected of everyone.

But most of my suspicion came from my behaviour and my background story.

But if theres one thing we've learnt, it's that we shouldn't suspect someone because their different, we should suspect someone who's the same.

Unfortunately, what I say we should do and what I do are different things, so I'm going to have to VOTE:airman I know two many innocent people have died already, but if we don't try to find out who is doing all of this, then MORE will die. Now isn't the time for Pacifism.

I was slow to set my initial vote, I had believed LotG to be an infected agent of evil, and not an undercover agent of Our Beloved Emperor.


Dark Lord Seanron and Valhallan both changed their votes to LotG after I set my vote on him in error. could this have been the work of Xenos, to jump on the bandwagon of votes? I do not know.


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I knew that voting LoG was a bad choose, we have lost a powerful ally, and now mekboy is dead. May they both rest in peace.

Many people are jumping on the vote bandwagons, we should make be making more educated votes or else someone innocent will die again.

People are jumping on the bandwagon because we dont know nothin', we got no clues and as soon as someone gives a theory about someone and votes, we all pile in.

(OCC, post moved should be below GWAR's post)

(OOC, my posts are not in the correct place they should be in, damn computer)

There are a few I expect more than others.

Manchu, you seemed offended when people stopped suspecting me at the end of yesterday, though I beleive you had good reasons for suspecting me.

Gwar!, you're always hiding, and sometimes we barely notice you at all. You're the most obscure target, and I beleive theres a reason for it.

and airman, (see previous post)

So for the moment.

UNVOTE: airman
VOTE: Manchu

I mean no offence, I am naught but a Simple Pilgrim.

I raise up from my kneeling position by the body. "What's all this talk of Inquisitors and Assassins? Seems odd that their type would be on one of these ships, surely they have a better way to get around?"

*Still somewhat shellshocked over the deaths*

I made a grave error in my voting yesterday as I was one of the main proponents in voting for LoG over DarkO. I still believe DarkO to be a less grave threat than some others in our company. However, beyond that, I do not know and shall listen more than I talk today as we unravel the results of the previous day.

I beleive now is an important time to discuss who we think is the traitor.

Well its obviously not Mekboy...

BrotherStynier wrote:Well its obviously not Mekboy...

I belive that's been established, but maybe, he knew who it is...

Drk_obitr8r, you seem to have a point, that's why the traitors wanted him dead. He first voted you to be lynched, but then changed his vote to LoG. It seems to me that you may wanted him dead because he knew what you were the killer.

Ultrafool wrote:Drk_obitr8r, you seem to have a point, that's why the traitors wanted him dead. He first voted you to be lynched, but then changed his vote to LoG. It seems to me that you may wanted him dead because he knew what you were the killer.

By that reasoning, if anyone died, at all, then it'd be my fault because most, if not all voted for me.

Well sort of, mekboy was the first to vote against you , then everyone else jumped on the bandwagon, if you are the traitor, I would imagine you killing him first.

To me, it has seemed that you're personality a bit.

Ultrafool wrote:Well sort of, mekboy was the first to vote against you , then everyone else jumped on the bandwagon, if you are the traitor, I would imagine you killing him first.

To me, it has seemed that you're personality a bit.

I'm betting the third or fourth were the traitors, but I don't know who they are atm.

We're supposed to find someone who's different because they kill people, not different cause they have a different personality.

Third person to vote for me was Lord-Loss, and the fourth was airman, he unvoted me however, and then Gwar! voted for me, so if my theory is right, at least one of them is infact, a traitor.

I agree with your theory, but what of those who didn't vote for you, are you not worried about them?







EDIT: spelling

Sort of. I'm more worried of those who HAVEN'T voted for anyone. And coincidentally enough. There are only TWO who haven't ever voted for anyone.

Frenzied Potato and Ultrafool.

So my current list of people I suspect is atm:

Frenzied Potato (hasn't voted)
Ultrafool (Hasn't voted)
Lord-Loss (quick to vote for me)
airman (voted for no one to die
Gwar! (quick to vote for me)
Manchu (offended that people unvoted me too quickly)

(OOC: Family emergency turned out well, and I was able to wrap up early...)

I will remind you that I had voted for lord of ghosts first, while expressing my suspicions about drk_obliter8r as well. I had been suspicious of both and would have been happy taking either out.

I am horrified to find out the fruits of my suspicions. If I could be so wrong as to choose an agent of the Imperium... Truly, my judgement is faulty. The blood of a true servant of the Emperor is on my hands, as it is on hands of seven others.

The only absolution that we will know is ferreting out the true traitors in our midst. We must stick to our duty as the Emperor demands.

I recant the vote I made against drk_obliter8r. His behavior, though erratic, seems too overt. I think our foe is perhaps more subtle.

(OOC: I'm glad your family emergency turned out well)

(OOC: Yay you're back)

As Drk_oblitr8r mentioned, that we should look past personalities.

Their are two people think about the most, GWAR who hardly talks and votes quickly, and Orkeo who seems to trusting.

I will not vote for anyone until I have reached a logical decision and not be on the bandwagon with everyone else, which is how LoG was killed and now we are in a worse position since we have lost a powerful ally.

Ultrafool wrote:(OOC: Yay you're back)

As Drk_oblitr8r mentioned, that we should look past personalities.

Their are two people think about the most, GWAR who hardly talks and votes quickly, and Orkeo who seems to trusting.

I will not vote for anyone until I have reached a logical decision and not be on the bandwagon with everyone else, which is how LoG was killed and now we are in a worse position since we have lost a powerful ally.

Unfortunately, I don't think we will all agree on who to vote for, unless we do.

For the moment, I'm sticking with my vote for Manchu.

There is No Such Thing As BandWagon Voting!

When someone suspects another person and then gives a theory about why, then think he/she is a traitor.

Well If Its good enough for me, I'l vote.

Some people dont want to be the first to vote, so they wait for someone else to vote for said person first.

Stop With The Silly BandWagon Talk!

[speculation] indeed, a grave error of judgement was made by our collective yesterday, and one I hope we do not repeat.

If I had stayed with my initial logical target instead of switching to allow the collective to function more efficiently and effectively, then maybe our esteemed and unfortunate comrades would still be among us.

[conclusion] To that end I recast my origianl vote:

Vote: Dark_Oblitr8r

Your sudden change in character from hysterical screaming child to calm and collective after the deaths of your possible rivals cements my suspicion. I only wish I had remained with more origianl instinct. Indeed, Manchu also suspected you (in my mind quite correctly) and the silencing of him by you would be grave indeed...

I really don't know what to think.

Hopefully, we can use better judgement today.

Vote: Dark_Oblitr8r

I admit yesterday was a grave error.

Ye Sixth Vote Accounting
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0 - Vote BrotherStynier
0 - Vote Frenzied Potato
1 - Vote Manchu (Drk_Oblitr8r)
0 - Vote Orkeosaurus
0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
4 - Vote Drk_Oblitr8r (Lord-Loss, Manchu, Dark Lord Seanron, Gwar!)
0 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron
0 - Vote Gwar!
0 - Vote Demogerg
0 - Vote Lord-Loss
0 - Vote Gornall
0 - Vote airman
0 - Vote Ultrafool

1 - Vote No Lynch (airman)

7 - Not Voting (BrotherStynier, Frenzied Potato, Ultrafool, Orkeosaurus, Gornall, Demogerg, Valhallan42nd)

With 13 alive it requires 7 to Lynch
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Vote: No Lynch ... for now.

Voting for no lynch is pretty pointless IMO.

if we somehow get up to 7 votes for no lynch, then we have wasted a day, only to lose another civilian at night.

you are better off abstaning from placing a vote entirely, that way we do not waste a day.

I urge you to unvote for no lynch.

I'd have to agree that voting no-lynch is foolish, almost as foolish as voting for one's self.

OOC: Didn't realize that it worked like that. I thought it was basically the same as a non-vote.

Unvote: No Lynch

To clearly clarify...(poor sentence construction aside)

A vote for No Lynch means you are specifically voting that there should be no lynch in this Day Phase. A majority of No Lynch votes will end the Day Phase with No Lynch.

Not voting is simply not voting.

Its time to pray Children of the Emperor.

All hail the power of Emperor’s Name! Let space marines see traitors fall;
Bring forth the royal diadem, and crown Him Lord of all Mankind
Bring forth the royal diadem, and crown Him Lord of all Mankind
Let highborn seraphs tune the lyre, and as they tune it, fall
Before His Imperial Army, and crown Him Lord of all Mankind
Before His Imperial Army, and crown Him Lord of all Mankind

Crown Him, ye morning stars of light, Who fixed this floating ball;
Now hail the The Emperor’s Might, and crown Him Lord of all Mankind
Now hail the The Emperor’s Might, and crown Him Lord of all Mankind

Crown Him, Servants of the Emperor, who from Ancient Terra call
May Heritics, Feel the wraith of the Emperors blade, and crown Him Lord of Mankind
May Heritics, Feel the wraith of the Emperors blade, and crown Him Lord of Mankind

Ye seed of Emperor’s chosen race, spread through the stars
Hail Him Who saves you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of all Mankind
Hail Him Who saves you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of all Mankind

Hail Him, Lord of All Mankind
Hail Him, and crown Him Lord of all Mankind
Hail Him, and crown Him Lord of all Mankind

Heritics, whose will die, feel the Emperor’s blade
Go spread your trophies at His feet, and crown Him Lord of all Mankind
Go spread your trophies at His feet, and crown Him Lord of all Mankind

Let every heretic and Mutant, fall before him
And shout in universal song the crownèd Lord of all Mankind
And shout in universal song the crownèd Lord of all Mankind


(You Better all Apreciate this, it took me half an hour to make it from a hymn )

[refutal] whilst your belief in prayer is noble, Lord Loss, prayer alone will do nothing but waste what little time we have left in rooting out the heresy that stalks us...

[query] unless of course you prefer to do nothing and let our unwelcome xenos guests pick us off at leisure?

Now now Seanron, no need to jump to conclusions.

DLS, you are mistaken.

Prays draws The Emperors light to this damned vessal, unless you question the power of the Emperor?*Raises Eyebrow*

Lord-Loss wrote:DLS, you are mistaken.

Prays draws The Emperors light to this damned vessal, unless you question the power of the Emperor?*Raises Eyebrow*

From what little I have gleaned on my travels, the Mechanus hold... somewhat different views on The Most Holy Emperor than the Imperial Creed, steaming from The Time Before the Imperium.

Indeed, Gwar is correct the Machine Priests of the Mechanicus have rather different views on our beloved Emperor.

*Mumbles something about silly machines and turns back on DLS*

[clarification] I meant no insult to your faith gentleman. Indeed, Mars was a desolate, soulless place before The Omnissiah came to us sheathed in gold and bearing the Flag of the Imperium.

And I too commune with our Lord in differing ways from most of you. Whereas you see a simple datacore reprocessing & distribution node, Isee the Omnissiah's will & divine countenence.

[correction] I simply postulate that now is a time for action as opposed to inaction.

Faith is a stronger weapon than any mere tool, Dark Lord Seanron. It would do you well to remember that.

Into thy hands, my Emperor, I commend myself this day. Let thy presence be with me even to its close, that at night I may again give thanks unto thee; through thy Holy Light, our Lord. Ave.

Grant, Divine Emperor, that I may not be afraid to follow the will of the Divine Emperor, and manfully to fight under his banner against sin, the xenos, and the daemon, and to continue as Your faithful soldier and servant unto my life‘s end. Ave.

Defend, Divine Emperor, this thy Child with thy heavenly grace; that I may continue thine for ever; and daily increase in thy righteous zeal more and more, until thine enemies breathe no more. Ave.

May your divine wisdom grant our hands guidance, to smite your enemies.

UNVOTE: Manchu
VOTE: No Lynch

I thought I'd be able to help better if I tried and surpressed that part of myself. But if that's such a problem for you DLS, then I won't say anything.

I think it would be prudent for everyone to air their suspicions about the other members on the vessel. That way we know why each person is voting the way they are.

I think we would all like to hear from those who have not voted.

I am undecided, as I think a vote against Drk_Obliter8r may be an incorrect vote.

That leaves me confused about whom I should not trust. All others seem so trustworthy, but I know that there are killers amongst them.

Manchu seems trustworthy, as a former Arbitor should. BrotherStynier, also seems to fall into the same category. Stubbs seems physically incapable of such acts, but as others pointed out, perhaps there is alien trickery involved.

I find Airman's interesting in trying to dispose of the body of the Captain, and his subsequent vote of "no lynch" to be telling. He's kept a low profile, and I think that "no lynch" vote might be a tactic to make him appear innocent. It is a nagging voice, but I think my instinct is correct in this choice. I think Airman might be one of our traitors.

Vote: Airman

I can't really decide whom to vote, I have suspicions and theories of who it might be the culprits but it will probably lead nowhere.

EDIT spelling

I also believe that Airman might be one of the culprits.

VOTE: Airman

Something about our resident gearhead isn't sitting right with me.

He claims to be operating under very logical principles, but doesn't seem that logical in action. I've been paranoid about that AdMech stuff before, but I think it's more than that upsetting me.

Orkeosaurus wrote:Something about our resident gearhead isn't sitting right with me.

He claims to be operating under very logical principles, but doesn't seem that logical in action. I've been paranoid about that AdMech stuff before, but I think it's more than that upsetting me.

Aye... While I am trying hard to not let my contempt of DLS to color my judgement, I have also found his reasoning suspect. However, a large part of that was because of his very clear desire to lynch DarkO, even though at the time LoG seemed to be a more likely suspect. We all know how that turned out, though, so I am unsure what to say. I am still of the mind that DarkO is not a likely suspect simply because his actions almost lead to him being lynched. I don't think an actual Xenos would make himself such a likely target.... something that LoG's death has taught me.

I, too, am unsure about Airman, as well as many others who seem very quiet. The Xenos may be just biding their time while we lynch one another before cleaning up the survivors. The less they say means the less we have to go on to suspect them. At the same time, I even suspect Manchu, Stynier, and Gwar!, as they all seem almost "too good". It is a confusing situation and only His guidance will allow us to unravel it.

What voting patterns have people observed?

Wait, our captain is dead.

Who's flying the ship?

The astropaths and pilots.

OOC: IM quite drunk and will be ceasing my posting for the night.

The Navigator is guiding us through the warp.

Otherwise our course has already been charted.

Manchu you were right in identifieing the Imperial Psyker. I am just bothered by the fact you identified him but did nothing to save him. If you were so confident in who he was why was your only action a change of vote? With an innocent life on the line I figured you would be fighting every vote.

Drk_Oblitr8r is desperately clinging to life. I understand why, but in the process he is making strange bedfellows. He wants to live regardless of the reason. I serve the God Emperor and will die accordingly.

Mekboy was close to something. I will find out what. Till then Drk_Oblitr8r pick your side very carefully. The God Emperor does not take kindly the traitors innocent of being genestealer or not.

Twice I brought up your loyalty and twice I have been ignored. I have enough doubt to cast my first vote...

Vote: Manchu

My reason is you knew a Loyal Servant of the Emperor...A Psyker and did nothing to save his life. Even someone who questioned your loyalty not once but twice and did nothing? That is worse then death.

[clarification] Indeed, I still maintain my suspicion of Dark_Oblitr8r - the reason I changed my vote was to accordingly coincide with the votes of the collective.

Admittedly, whilst not the most logical course of action to the unaugmented it was a perfectly logical desicion: it allowed us to thin our numbers and possibly come closer to the genuine suspect(s)

This may seem cold, but that is our nature my friends. We are the Mechanicum and to shirk from knowledge, no matter how terrifying is a sin.

[additional point] furthermore, my reason fro Dark_Obltr8r is sound.

>>> His sudden change in characer now two are dead

>>> His apparent ignorance of both this ships course and the death of our captain {point of interest: the body was lying in front of us all day yesterday - who did he think it belonged to? Also considering we talked about it all day yesterday also. He is either poorly attempting to cover his own xenos tracks, or he is an idiot}

>>> His rapid changing of his vote from Manchu (probably the most level headed of you all) when it was clear he lacked the support.

And again, I care not whether or not you like or dislike me based on my faith or appearance. I am 73.98% augmetics with an extra 39.77% additional mechanical mass. I weigh just over 1.6 tons, but can function due to high-gauge suspensor fields. If I cared what the small-minded thought of me, I would not be what I am.

I did not recognize LotG as a psyker. You should have listened more carefully. What I actually said was that I didn't know whether or not he was a heretic and that he was certainly acting strangely enough. I voted for and still vote for Drk_O because I feel that he hoodwinked most of the rest of you with that little martyrdom trick. Absent that, I probably would have followed Orkeosaurus's logic in evaluating LotG's seeming identification of the Emperor with a "hive fleet" and voted along with the majority to lynch him. What made me hesitate was the extremely suspicious way that the votes suddenly piled against LotG when they had previously been heavily against Drk_O even though LotG had already behaved suspiciously. What cements my suspicion of Drk_O is that instead of trying to clear his name with logic he continued to play the martyr, claimed to have been persecuted merely for being different, and then vindictively turned against m,e despite the fact that I voted for him, as I told him and the rest of you at that time, as a warning that he had better explain himself. So far, he has only seemed more suspicious. Gone is the whimpering child who lacked all self-control and instead we have what seems to be a rather cunning manipulator. As the techpriest has just pointed out, he also dropped his accusations against me once it became apparent that the rest of you wouldn't follow him into madness for no logical reason.

I understand your reasoning, FPotato. If I recognized a loyal servant of His Divine Majesty and did nothing to save him then I would of course be a traitor, whether perfidious genestealer or no. It would have been enough to damn my soul to the warp if I had merely stood by and done nothing. But your argument, however valid in itself, fails on its foundational premise: I did not recognize LotG as a psyker. I appreciate that you are at least trying to fit the pieces together and invite your to continue trying--although to perhaps be more careful when framing your arguments. If you go about making accusations in such a careless manner, you will undoubtedly be suspected of doing so on purpose . . . to mask your own guilt.

Only in Death does our duty end.

While unfortunate, it is soothing to know that LotG proved himself loyal to the end and thus earned himself a place at The Emperors side.

If LOG was psyker, and not an Imperial pyker, he could have been a danger to us all!

*nods hooded cowl toward Manchu*

[agreement] whilst we have not seen eye to eye subject Manchu, I do concur.

[information] And there would be little to fear from the lat subject LoG gentlemen. This class of Dauntless Frigate come equipped with the VHR55 Melchior Class Geller Field generators, plus each bulkhead is coated with a 0.6652mm thin veneer of Psyochtas Mineral. Even a catostrophic Psy-backdraft would be halted by the fields effects.

Which would save the ship, but would compartmentalize the damage to the area where we're currently residing, if I read you correctly. Not so comforting.

I still say that Airman deserves looking at. Again, Drk_O seems too obvious.

Manchu wrote:I am not convinced. No, I am not convinced, as the rest of you seem to be, by this dubious self-sacrifice. If anything, it reminds me of the smarter, sicker scummers who'd play mind games with us Arbitors, wheedling at us for pity when Emperor knows they deserve none at all. No, I think you all should trust your instincts about this one. I know I will.

Vote: Drk_Oblitr8r

Lord of the Ghosts may very well be insane and even a heretic for all I know. His ravings are certainly damning enough, as you all clearly recognize. But I would remind you that none of us--and I realize this means even me--can be above suspicion in each other's eyes.

The fact that so many of you seem eager to absolve Drk_O of guilt in this matter astounds me and I refuse to let him off that easily. Whether it makes me unpopular with his sympathizers is immaterial to me, for I'll have done my duty to Him as I always have and always will.

Let me pose these questions: How many of us have sacrificed everything to be on this ship bound for Holy Terra? For how many of us is this the summation of all our lives' goals? And this one claims he got on by mistake? I must say again, I am not convinced.

Mekboy wrote:Wait.. I've just realised. He's a psyker, right? And there's only one role that can be a psyker? Therefore:

Unvote: Lord of Ghosts
Vote: Drk_Oblitr8r

This is the chain I noticed and having trouble wrapping my head around. You did not say he was a psyker but inferred enough for someone to say it. That person is dead.

Manchu wrote:I did not recognize LotG as a psyker. You should have listened more carefully. What I actually said was that I didn't know whether or not he was a heretic and that he was certainly acting strangely enough. I voted for and still vote for Drk_O because I feel that he hoodwinked most of the rest of you with that little martyrdom trick. Absent that, I probably would have followed Orkeosaurus's logic in evaluating LotG's seeming identification of the Emperor with a "hive fleet" and voted along with the majority to lynch him. What made me hesitate was the extremely suspicious way that the votes suddenly piled against LotG when they had previously been heavily against Drk_O even though LotG had already behaved suspiciously. What cements my suspicion of Drk_O is that instead of trying to clear his name with logic he continued to play the martyr, claimed to have been persecuted merely for being different, and then vindictively turned against m,e despite the fact that I voted for him, as I told him and the rest of you at that time, as a warning that he had better explain himself. So far, he has only seemed more suspicious. Gone is the whimpering child who lacked all self-control and instead we have what seems to be a rather cunning manipulator. As the techpriest has just pointed out, he also dropped his accusations against me once it became apparent that the rest of you wouldn't follow him into madness for no logical reason.

I understand your reasoning, FPotato. If I recognized a loyal servant of His Divine Majesty and did nothing to save him then I would of course be a traitor, whether perfidious genestealer or no. It would have been enough to damn my soul to the warp if I had merely stood by and done nothing. But your argument, however valid in itself, fails on its foundational premise: I did not recognize LotG as a psyker. I appreciate that you are at least trying to fit the pieces together and invite your to continue trying--although to perhaps be more careful when framing your arguments. If you go about making accusations in such a careless manner, you will undoubtedly be suspected of doing so on purpose . . . to mask your own guilt.

I do not mask guilt for I have guilt. We as citizens failed to save now two of our own. The signs are becoming more obvious but I fear we are all dead before an answer emerges.

You seem to have no guilt why is that?

Valhallan42nd wrote:I still say that Airman deserves looking at. Again, Drk_O seems too obvious.

Best place to hide is in the open.


Manchu, I still have my suspicions about you but they are steadily declining. The point is Mekboy ate the bullet I believe in your stead. You should be dead not him. My next questions are: Was it a mistake and you should of been the mark? Or was Mekboy on to something? Did you set up Mekboy?

He suspected Airmen, Gornell , Lord Seanron and Brother Stynier.

Some inquisitor acolyte I have turned out to be. I will solve this even if it costs me my life.

EDIT: Spends his time re-studying each recorded log for the last few days.

Frenzied Potato wrote:Best place to hide is in the open.

I don't think the fact that Drk_Oblit came so close to being lynched everyone thought he was lynched supports this theory.

I would say the best place to hide is where you're well-known but not particularly scrutinized. Being the target of everyone's accusations isn't good, and neither is being the quiet kid in the corner. The Genestealer should strive to be involved just as much as he has to be.

Some inquisitor acolyte I have turned out to be.

Hmm. Perhaps you can shed some light on what's going on?

Guilt is something that every person bears. I never claimed innocence. I did not kill LotG; I just wasn't smart enough to figure out what he really was in time to try and save his life. Thank the Emperor that I didn't contribute to his murder in fact but, as I already said, if it hadn't been for the suspicious circumstances of Drk_O's ordeal I probably would have agreed with those that did. I, too, am guilty in this way.

Frenzied Potato wrote:The point is Mekboy ate the bullet I believe in your stead. You should be dead not him. My next questions are: Was it a mistake and you should of been the mark? Or was Mekboy on to something? Did you set up Mekboy?

First of all, absolutely not. Second of all, that is an intriguing point but I must confess I don't follow the reasoning of your deduction. Please explain to us what you mean--at least it will preclude any one else from attempting that strategy if you openly explain it. The more talking we loyal citizens do, the better the chance that we'll hit upon the xenos scum rather than helping them massacre us. Those who dissuade us from logical argumentation are, in my opinion the most suspicious. Which brings me to Orkeo's point:

Orkeosaurus wrote:The Genestealer should strive to be involved just as much as he has to be.

I tend to agree, although this statement is so broad as to make many of us--including myself and even you, Orekosaurus--look more suspicious.

*Edits for very poor formatting

OOC: When is our cut-off time before night begins?

Frenzied Potato wrote:

Manchu wrote:I am not convinced. No, I am not convinced, as the rest of you seem to be, by this dubious self-sacrifice. If anything, it reminds me of the smarter, sicker scummers who'd play mind games with us Arbitors, wheedling at us for pity when Emperor knows they deserve none at all. No, I think you all should trust your instincts about this one. I know I will.

Vote: Drk_Oblitr8r

Lord of the Ghosts may very well be insane and even a heretic for all I know. His ravings are certainly damning enough, as you all clearly recognize. But I would remind you that none of us--and I realize this means even me--can be above suspicion in each other's eyes.

The fact that so many of you seem eager to absolve Drk_O of guilt in this matter astounds me and I refuse to let him off that easily. Whether it makes me unpopular with his sympathizers is immaterial to me, for I'll have done my duty to Him as I always have and always will.

Let me pose these questions: How many of us have sacrificed everything to be on this ship bound for Holy Terra? For how many of us is this the summation of all our lives' goals? And this one claims he got on by mistake? I must say again, I am not convinced.

Mekboy wrote:Wait.. I've just realised. He's a psyker, right? And there's only one role that can be a psyker? Therefore:

Unvote: Lord of Ghosts
Vote: Drk_Oblitr8r

This is the chain I noticed and having trouble wrapping my head around. You did not say he was a psyker but inferred enough for someone to say it. That person is dead.

Manchu wrote:I did not recognize LotG as a psyker. You should have listened more carefully. What I actually said was that I didn't know whether or not he was a heretic and that he was certainly acting strangely enough. I voted for and still vote for Drk_O because I feel that he hoodwinked most of the rest of you with that little martyrdom trick. Absent that, I probably would have followed Orkeosaurus's logic in evaluating LotG's seeming identification of the Emperor with a "hive fleet" and voted along with the majority to lynch him. What made me hesitate was the extremely suspicious way that the votes suddenly piled against LotG when they had previously been heavily against Drk_O even though LotG had already behaved suspiciously. What cements my suspicion of Drk_O is that instead of trying to clear his name with logic he continued to play the martyr, claimed to have been persecuted merely for being different, and then vindictively turned against m,e despite the fact that I voted for him, as I told him and the rest of you at that time, as a warning that he had better explain himself. So far, he has only seemed more suspicious. Gone is the whimpering child who lacked all self-control and instead we have what seems to be a rather cunning manipulator. As the techpriest has just pointed out, he also dropped his accusations against me once it became apparent that the rest of you wouldn't follow him into madness for no logical reason.

I understand your reasoning, FPotato. If I recognized a loyal servant of His Divine Majesty and did nothing to save him then I would of course be a traitor, whether perfidious genestealer or no. It would have been enough to damn my soul to the warp if I had merely stood by and done nothing. But your argument, however valid in itself, fails on its foundational premise: I did not recognize LotG as a psyker. I appreciate that you are at least trying to fit the pieces together and invite your to continue trying--although to perhaps be more careful when framing your arguments. If you go about making accusations in such a careless manner, you will undoubtedly be suspected of doing so on purpose . . . to mask your own guilt.

I do not mask guilt for I have guilt. We as citizens failed to save now two of our own. The signs are becoming more obvious but I fear we are all dead before an answer emerges.

You seem to have no guilt why is that?

Valhallan42nd wrote:I still say that Airman deserves looking at. Again, Drk_O seems too obvious.

Best place to hide is in the open.


Manchu, I still have my suspicions about you but they are steadily declining. The point is Mekboy ate the bullet I believe in your stead. You should be dead not him. My next questions are: Was it a mistake and you should of been the mark? Or was Mekboy on to something? Did you set up Mekboy?

He suspected Airmen, Gornell , Lord Seanron and Brother Stynier.

Some inquisitor acolyte I have turned out to be. I will solve this even if it costs me my life.

EDIT: Spends his time re-studying each recorded log for the last few days.

"Inquisitor Acolyte?" I ask, my interest peaked by the sudden claim. "In my service as an Arbitor that was a common claim from people we had apprehended as a way to try and get out of their crimes. Needless to say it never worked, no Inquisitors ever showed up to help them out of those messes. So if you are the Acolyte, then where is your master?"

Valhallan42nd wrote:OOC: When is our cut-off time before night begins?

Three weeks (Terran standard), I believe.

Time flows strangely in the warp.

BrotherStynier wrote:
"Inquisitor Acolyte?" I ask, my interest peaked by the sudden claim. "In my service as an Arbitor that was a common claim from people we had apprehended as a way to try and get out of their crimes. Needless to say it never worked, no Inquisitors ever showed up to help them out of those messes. So if you are the Acolyte, then where is your master?"

Somewhere outside the Geller Field we're enveloped in, I'd suppose? Claiming that you're a field agent of an Inquisitor is useless, as you'll likely have no proof which we can accept. By the Throne, man! Any one of us could claim to be a direct agent of the Emperor's Holy Will. Doing so only makes you look more suspicious, in fact.

My Vote for Drk8_Oblit still stands, he has proven himself to be loyal yet.

Lord-Loss wrote:My Vote for Drk8_Oblit still stands, he has proven himself to be loyal yet.

You knowingly vote for an innocent man? And misspell his name?

Orkeosaurus wrote:

Lord-Loss wrote:My Vote for Drk8_Oblit still stands, he has proven himself to be loyal yet.

You knowingly vote for an innocent man? And misspell his name?

Oh gak, I meant to say:

"My vote for Drk_Oblit8 still stands, he has not proven himself to be loyal yet.

Ah.

In that case, I must ask: do you consider all of the others to have proven themselves loyal?

::EDIT:: Typos of my own! The irony!

Well he hasnt proven himself to be loyal after becoming suspicous in my eyes.

Valhallan42nd wrote:

BrotherStynier wrote:
"Inquisitor Acolyte?" I ask, my interest peaked by the sudden claim. "In my service as an Arbitor that was a common claim from people we had apprehended as a way to try and get out of their crimes. Needless to say it never worked, no Inquisitors ever showed up to help them out of those messes. So if you are the Acolyte, then where is your master?"

Somewhere outside the Geller Field we're enveloped in, I'd suppose? Claiming that you're a field agent of an Inquisitor is useless, as you'll likely have no proof which we can accept. By the Throne, man! Any one of us could claim to be a direct agent of the Emperor's Holy Will. Doing so only makes you look more suspicious, in fact.

"Is this directed at me? I was the one that questioned him on it, I wasn't shooting of my mouth making ludicrous claims."

The real question is, what investigative powers does this "Inquisitor's acolyte" have? Any of note?

We might not be able to trust that he is what he says he is, but knowing what he thinks may prove useful.

So, "acolyte", who do you think are the Genestealers?

Valhallan42nd wrote:OOC: When is our cut-off time before night begins?

2009/11/14 11:57:45

BrotherStynier wrote:

Valhallan42nd wrote:

BrotherStynier wrote:
"Inquisitor Acolyte?" I ask, my interest peaked by the sudden claim. "In my service as an Arbitor that was a common claim from people we had apprehended as a way to try and get out of their crimes. Needless to say it never worked, no Inquisitors ever showed up to help them out of those messes. So if you are the Acolyte, then where is your master?"

Somewhere outside the Geller Field we're enveloped in, I'd suppose? Claiming that you're a field agent of an Inquisitor is useless, as you'll likely have no proof which we can accept. By the Throne, man! Any one of us could claim to be a direct agent of the Emperor's Holy Will. Doing so only makes you look more suspicious, in fact.

"Is this directed at me? I was the one that questioned him on it, I wasn't shooting of my mouth making ludicrous claims."

No, Brother Stynier, it was most assuredly directed at Brother Potato. Calm yourself.

Forgive me then, I was out of line.

All is forgiven. We are all under stress.

Even if we had all the resources of the Holy Inquistion at our disposal, this would still be a difficult task. We must choose properly this time.

If there are only two killers, as the Mekboy's and the captain's murders suggest, then the odds are on our side. The Emperor protect us if there are other agents at work, as Orkeosaurus's research suggests.

Odds on our sides? Did you forget that our most Powerful ally LoG is dead. If we are to truly get the upper hand, we must make the right choices.

Absolutely agreed. We've lost two and taken none. If we don't even the odds by the night cycle, we'll be down four tomorrow.

Ultrafool wrote:Odds on our sides? Did you forget that our most Powerful ally LoG is dead. If we are to truly get the upper hand, we must make the right choices.

I hope that the Lord of Ghosts was not our only ally, Ultrafool. I do not know, but I pray that the Emperor's Hand will protect us in this time of desperate struggle.

Or three. If we don't decide who we believe to be a genestealer, then it'd only be one.

I'm sorry about getting angry before, I've been hearing church bells in my head all day...(OOC: I'm in the middle of my final highschool exams )

True enough but we'll definitely lose another the next night and so on until we develop the nerve to work this out properly.

: Sensing he has some attention he goes further :

I am naive to the true ways of my order. I can divulge that I am indeed an acolyte and this trip to the holy land is to find my master. Consider it a right of passage. If you can find your master you can find the heretics.

I believe this is my charge.

Manchu hit a very solid note when it came to the rantings of the now lost Imperial Psyker. Albeit accidental or intentional is yet to be determined. Mekboy took this one step further and concluded to the identity of one such Psyker. The psyker is dead and now mekboy is dead. I doubt the coincidence.

I haven't found a conclusive point of interest yet. But I am following each connection and theory to the fullest. I just need a little bit more time but here is my theory.

My Theory / Notes / Timeline of Mekboy:

- Mekboy first doubted Airman who went out of his way to dispose the body for it scared Dark Oblit
- He voted Dark Oblit
- Airman and Gwar agree with Mekboy's Reason of voting Oblit and Airman Votes Dark Oblit
- Mekboy suggest Gornell and Brother Styner may be trying to save their fellow Genesteeler
- Airman changes his vote from Dark Oblit to Brother Styner
- Mekboy further insinuates that Brother Styner may be a genesteeler
- Airman Unvotes after be called out on a hasty vote immiediatly agreeing with Lord Loss (interesting)
- Orkeosaurus attempts a rally against the LotG
- Brother Styner unvotes Airman (maybe the genesteelers voted eachother as a show, since they both unvoted eachother)
- Orkeosarus continues the warcry against LotG

Quoting Lord Loss "LOG is becoming increasing suspicous, the way he talks....planets destroyed by indiviuals, mutations, sacrificed to the Emperor.


He's a psykers! "

- Mekboy votes Lord of Ghosts
- Mekboy unvotes Lord of GHosts and re votes Dark Oblit
- Mekboy is dead

Mind you these are my notes on Mekboy I will not divulge my other notes till I am sure.

Here is what I believed to be Mekboy's Theory (Not Mine):

Mekboy successfully identified three very good canidates of genesteelers.

- Airman takes his ques from Lord - Loss.
- Airman and Brother Styner go against each other but find excuses to forgive eachother but no one else.
- Lord - Loss called out to kill the Psyker not once did the possibility of an Imperial Psyker come into play.
- Orkeosaurus continues war cries and unwavering march to the first Lynch

- I claim to be an Inquisitor Acolyte
- Orkeosaurus first to respond
- Manchu responds
- Brother Stynier responds

Out of the three main people I believed that Mekboy suspected two become immediately curious to my claim. Two whom happen to be of Mekboy's primary concern.

Airman / Brother Styner / Lord Loss / Gornell / Orkesosaurus

Out of these five I believe Lord - Loss / Brotherstynier / Airman are the three that should be focused on.

This is a good place to start. Sadly in Mekboy's memory. We will continue with your leads Mekboy and will not falter. As for my claim to be an Inquisitor Acolyte or Inquisitor you may never know. A bait if you will. I just wanted to let the Genesteelers know that among the Loyal there may be one with the God Emperor's charge.

EDIT: Fixing grammar / Spelling / names and OOC message
<OOC>I apologize for the delay. Long week. I will try not to keep suspense when I start an interesting topic.

Then what do you suggest we do, Manchu? Who would you have me cast my vote for? The seemingly obvious choice of drk_obliter8or? Or Mr. Dispose of the Evidence Airman? Or Dark Lord Seanron, because he's different? Or Stubbs because he could be hiding prostethic murder limbs?

I still suspect Airman, but I know me must act. If the group's wisdom suggests drk_obliter8r is the prime suspect, then I must bow to it's wisdom. May the Emperor guide the hands of justice.

Unvote Airman
Vote drk_obliter8r

May He have mercy on your soul.

::edit to remove double capitalization on the word "IF" in the second paragraph's second sentance.::

::That last comment is one that Valhallan directs at Drk_obliter8r::

@Frenzied Potato: Again, your thoughts are very interesting. But I don't understand the line you're taking about Stynier. If there's anything suspicious about him, it's his interest in the Inquisition. But if he really is an arbitor then it's understandable. Similarly, could you draw out your point about Lord Loss and Airman? But I agree with you completely on one point--the question that we must answer is this: why Mekboy? I remind you that upon his epiphany--too late though it was--that LotG was a psyker, he changed his vote to Drk_O. Perhaps you might find me dead tomorrow for the same reason? Although I appreciate that he no longer wishes to kill me in public and make all of you accomplices to the deed, I also note that Drk_O has yet to answer my continued challenges.

@Valhallan: I can give you no better advice than this: If you are among the Emperor-fearing, then trust in your conscience as it is guided by faith and reason. If you are among the repugnant xenos, confess as much and may the warp take you! But here is my innermost thought on the matter: the wisdom of the group, if there is such a thing that can be named that, is no substitute for one's own carefully studied opinion. I fear it will be the wisdom of the group that proves the enemy's most cunning tool.

Valhallan42nd wrote:
Vote drk_obliter8r

May He have mercy on your soul.

He will. I just hope his mercy encompasses the rest of you.

Drk_O, there is plenty of time to unvote you. The threat is far from imminent. Use your newfound confidence and defend yourself, for Throne's sake, so that another human life is not lost!

Manchu wrote:@Valhallan: I can give you no better advice than this: If you are among the Emperor-fearing, then trust in your conscience as it is guided by faith and reason. If you are among the repugnant xenos, confess as much and may the warp take you! But here is my innermost thought on the matter: the wisdom of the group, if there is such a thing that can be named that, is no substitute for one's own carefully studied opinion. I fear it will be the wisdom of the group that proves the enemy's most cunning tool.

That's just it! I suspected both Lord of Ghosts and drk_obliter8r on day one, and look what that did for Lord of Ghosts. Look what that did for us! My instincts are honed to file proper requesition requests, not mete out brutal justice to random strangers.

My vote will stand for now, but I will ponder it for a short while. (OOC: as I go to bed!)

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:
[additional point] furthermore, my reason fro Dark_Obltr8r is sound.

>>> His sudden change in characer now two are dead

(OOC: I want to use shock as an excuse for this, because acting the way I was, was way to difficult to maintain. I'm explaining this out of character because it's the only way I beleive possible to do.)

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:
>>> His apparent ignorance of both this ships course and the death of our captain {point of interest: the body was lying in front of us all day yesterday - who did he think it belonged to? Also considering we talked about it all day yesterday also. He is either poorly attempting to cover his own xenos tracks, or he is an idiot}

I think you misheard me. I knew the captain was dead, but I didn't think of what was making the ship stay to course. I hadn't thought about it.

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:>>> His rapid changing of his vote from Manchu (probably the most level headed of you all) when it was clear he lacked the support.

It IS possible to change my mind on a whim, as opposed to support. I beleived that Manchu was guilty, because he seemed offended that everyone decided that I wasn't suspicious, for some reason, when someone seems offended that I'm not about to die kinda rubs me the wrong way, but then I decided against it.

I can also decide to:
UNVOTE: No Lynch
Vote: Dark Lord Searnron
Unvote: DLS
Vote: Manchu
Unvote: Manchu
Vote: Gwar!
Unvote: Gwar!
Vote: Lord-Loss
Unvote: Lord-Loss
Vote: No Lynch

Did anyone support me when voting then? Did I change my votes because no one supported lynching them?

Manchu wrote:(...) I'm talking about Drk_O here. How have we gone from "he behaves oddly and has a suspicious background" to "he's a martyr for the Emperor"? I don't know whether Lord of the Ghosts is a genestealer or not. I never heard of any Gheistos Cataclysm, or whatever. But I know this: the real genestealers would be quick to jump on the chance of laying the blame at the feet of an obvious target, especially when they themselves have already been an obvious target. Drk_O, consider this a challenge: I'd rather you can the passion play theatrics and give us some explanation about why anyone could believe that bogus story about winding up on a ship for Holy Terra by accident. I guess that's where it will have to stand, considering the mob is already bent--maybe justifiably--on lynching LotG.

The only mention of being a matyr for the Emperor came from very early, when I asked Orkeo how I could be less of a coward.

Orkeosaurus wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Mr... uhhh... Stumps? Can you help give me some pointers to being less of a coward? Mother used to say I'd grow out of it under the right leadership.

Just remember to die for the Emperor. Then you will be a martyr, and you won't have the dark creatures of the warp feast upon your immortal soul until the end of time.

Also, imagine the enemies of man to be wearing only their underwear. It makes them far less intimidating.

You yourself said that he could teach me

Manchu wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:My mom died giving to birth to me, and you don't see me complaining!

That's right. Stumps here is full of nothing but piss and vinegar. He'll teach you how to stand up straight and grow chest hair.

As a direct answer to your challenge. I will explain how I mistakenly boarded this ship, which seems to be floating through hell on the way to heaven.

Flashback wrote:
I was walking to the boarding section, when I saw someone I saw someone I thought to be suspicious. So I tried to get a look at their face, but I couldn't see it, so I told someone in charge of secruity, and they said "I'll check up on it".
When I got to the dock for my ship to Baal, I bumped into the official collecting tickets, dropping them all and mine. The official rushed me on the ship, as it was about to leave. And here I am.

I hope this explains things.

@Frenzied: If you would have paid better attention you would know that I didn't forgive Airman I simply changed my vote. In addition if you were paying attention you would see that I have been turning to several of the others, Manchu one of them to try and figure this out.

@Manchu: My interest in the Inquisition is less an interest in the Inquisition over all and more an interest in figuring out Frenzied's story. I have herd the argument in the past.

Where did you get the conclusion that I might be a Genestealer?


LOG could have been a rogue pyker, I dont know about you, but I will not die before I see Holy Terra!

Airman was being unreasonable and I showed him sense.

Though I will unvote: Drk_Oblitr8r , as I now believe Airman to be a Genesteraler!


Vote: Airman

[conclusion] Subject Oblitr8r - I know you to be one of the guilty. Now you twist and now you turn but the cold hard light of the Omnissiahs gaze is upon you!

BrotherStynier wrote:@Manchu: My interest in the Inquisition is less an interest in the Inquisition over all and more an interest in figuring out Frenzied's story. I have herd the argument in the past.

As I said, given what you claim about your past, this is completely understandable. What do you make of Frenzied's story? Do you agree that finding out why Mekboy was killed should be our priority?

Lord Loss, please explain your vote against Airman otherwise you will merely look like you are distancing yourself from him. That, in turn, merely validates Frenzied's claims that you two are partners in crime.

I think this may be the one situation where I'd actually hope an agent of the Emperor's Holy Office was nearby. In the meantime, no sense in flinging accusations back and forth out of mere spite and defensiveness. We're all of us going to be accused and re-accused while trying to figure this out.

Frenzied Potatoe's reasoning is just the kind of logic we need to uproot the Xenos. If we could all explain our logic in a similar method, I think we could make real progress.

Airman, wanted to 'get rid of the evidence' aka the captains body.

When someone voted against him, he voteD against them.

He's barely posted and when he does, it makes him more suspicous.

I think we should be more worried about people who dont talk to each other. For example: Drk_Oblit8er and Airman, then have barely said a word to each other.

OOC: Anyone have a vote count? I've lost track.

OOC: As have I.

unvote Drk_Obliter8r
VOTE: Airman

I pondered for a while, and bent my head in prayer. I think my instincts were right about Airman. I think Drk_oblit is too obvious.

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[conclusion] Subject Oblitr8r - I know you to be one of the guilty.

How are you so certain, you overgrown tin can? You have set your sights on him from the beginning and haven't entertained the possibility of anyone else being guilty, besides your "I'll vote for LoG since everyone else is" vote.

While I agree that DarkO is suspicious, I would ask that the people voting for him please explain how they interpret the events of the first day where he almost offed himself. That is my biggest sticking point right now, as I think he walked too close to the edge of death to be a genestealer. However, unlike the garbage disposal here, I'm FAR from set in my thoughts. If someone can provide a plausible explanation, I would not be opposed to voting for DarkO. Until then, I think other suspects are more likely.

It could be taken in two ways:

A desperate plea, or a desperate ploy.

Either way, it worked.

He didn't actually nearly do himself in at all, as he could have easily known at the time. The vote count was wrong and it was a perfect chance to play the martyr. LotG wasn't off the hook while this was going on, either. There were already a couple of votes against him because--as Frenzied points out--Orkeosaurus was whipping up opinion against him. Once it became clear that Drk_O's brush with death was totally fake, Drk_O changed his vote to LotG, leading the renewed charge on the poor psyker. Meanwhile, Orkeosaurus declared that Drk_O was the least suspicious because it was somehow unlikely that he knew the count was wrong and fruthermore that he took a long time (OOC: about 40min) to change his vote.

In reviewing this matter, I think you Gornall may have a piece of evidence in your favor. You could have easily switched your vote to Drk_O in that interval and done him in for good. But you didn't. Then again, it might also be that you and Drk_O are both genestealers and that's why you didn't change your vote and also why you're defending him now. I tend to think that unlikely, however. Drk_O's biggest defender has been Orkeosaurus, afer all.

Ye Seventh Vote Accounting
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0 - Vote BrotherStynier
0 - Vote Frenzied Potato
1 - Vote Manchu (Frenzied Potato)
0 - Vote Orkeosaurus
0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
3 - Vote Drk_Oblitr8r (Manchu, Dark Lord Seanron, Gwar!)
0 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron
0 - Vote Gwar!
0 - Vote Demogerg
0 - Vote Lord-Loss
0 - Vote Gornall
3 - Vote airman (BrotherStynier, Lord-Loss, Valhallan42nd)
0 - Vote Ultrafool

2 - Vote No Lynch (airman, Drk_Oblitr8r)

4 - Not Voting (Gornall, Ultrafool, Orkeosaurus, Demogerg)

With 13 alive it requires 7 to Lynch
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You're right in that I could have voted to end him. However, I was more concerned with DLS and LoG, as when the votes had started mounting against LoG, DLS quickly offered up DarkO as a suspect. At the time, that struck me as rather odd, almost as if DLS was trying to protect LoG. That reasoning proved to be erroneous as LoG was actually an ally, however. So maybe I was duped by DarkO's show of faith...

I have to say, a "no lynch" vote seems suspicious on its face. Being undecided is one thing, but deciding to do nothing is quite another. Notice that the two voting "no lynch" both have three votes against them.

Airman, Drk_Oblit,

Voting for a no-lynch scenario does neither of you any good.

Gornall, Demogerg, Orkesaurus, and Ultrafool:

If we don't find the traitors during this day cycle, we are at a severe disadvantage. I'm not suggesting jumping on one or another band wagon, but if you have theories, we'd all like to hear them.

I see Manchu has come to a similar conclusion before I did.

Im not sure about Drk_Oblit, maybe he just took Stumpy's advice and became a man?

[explanation] Subject Gornall, I have explained already why I maintain my suspicions of Olitr8r, although it would not surprise me that you weren't listening. Indeed, everything I seem to say is pounced upon by yourself as some kind of heretical monstrous ploy.

Your suspicions of LoG and his subsequent death were a hard lesson, and maybe you should learn it quick insted of showing yourself to be a small-minded, biased simpleton.

I have pointed out why I suspect Oblitr8r several times, and I will remain on that path until our investigations point otherwise. I will not reiterate myself for the slow-learning, I have seen 31st cogitators that compute faster than yourself...

[conclusion] my vote stands, and no amount of small-mindedness or bullying on your part will change that!

Valhallan42nd wrote:Airman, Drk_Oblit,

Voting for a no-lynch scenario does neither of you any good.

Gornall, Demogerg, Orkesaurus, and Ultrafool:

If we don't find the traitors during this day cycle, we are at a severe disadvantage. I'm not suggesting jumping on one or another band wagon, but if you have theories, we'd all like to hear them.

I see no need to rush into a decision just yet. The more we talk and communicate today, the more patterns will emerge that will help us tomorrow. If I am not convinced of anyone's guilt before the hour becomes late, then I will simply vote with the majority to make sure inaction does not doom us. Until that point, however, I think it best that we look at all possibilities. I say we discuss each person individually.

For example, I could potentially be a Xenos, as I voted for LoG rather than DarkO yesterday. You could infer that I'm trying to protect DarkO because we are both heretics. This is not the case, but I feel it best to confront any suspicions head-on. What other things make me seem suspicious?

After piling up allegations against me, we would then move on to the next person, explaining why they could potentially be Xenos scum. By doing this for everyone, we force people to express their logic, and those without strong logic are possibly the ones trying to play us off of each other.

Why I might be suspicous:

I switched my vote from Drk_Oblit to LOG

Reason why: I thought that he was a rogue pyker, he was also distracting us from the real threat with his suspicous posts.

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[explanation] Subject Gornall, I have explained already why I maintain my suspicions of Olitr8r, although it would not surprise me that you weren't listening. Indeed, everything I seem to say is pounced upon by yourself as some kind of heretical monstrous ploy.

Your suspicions of LoG and his subsequent death were a hard lesson, and maybe you should learn it quick insted of showing yourself to be a small-minded, biased simpleton.

I have pointed out why I suspect Oblitr8r several times, and I will remain on that path until our investigations point otherwise. I will not reiterate myself for the slow-learning, I have seen 31st cogitators that compute faster than yourself...

[conclusion] my vote stands, and no amount of small-mindedness or bullying on your part will change that!

::Glares at DLS:: You seem more like a dog gnawing on a bone than a logical machine. You set your sight on a target and have not even considered other possibilities. LoG's death imparted on me the importance of looking at this from every angle and not simply settling on the first theory that makes sense and following it to its logical conclusion. To me, I think you are making the same mistake I did yesterday in focusing on one individual and not looking at ALL the evidence. My mistake helped doom LoG... I don't want to see you repeat it with another. However, I guess I should have known that a rusty machine would not feel pain or guilt at the loss of an Emperor-fearing man at our own hands.

Lord-Loss wrote:Why I might be suspicous:

I switched my vote from Drk_Oblit to LOG

Reason why: I thought that he was a rogue pyker, he was also distracting us from the real threat with his suspicous posts.

We will get to you soon enough... To keep things clear and avoid confusion, lets have everyone air their suspicions about one person at a time. Lord-Loss, what doubts do you have about me?

None about you, apart from you seem to hate tin cans.

OOC:: If hating tin cans is wrong... then I don't wanna be right!

I don't know about suspicious, but "off-putting" could certainly be used to describe our friend from Mars.

I will follow the advice given above and present my current opinions on a one-by-one basis.


BrotherStynier nothing particularly suspicious.

Frenzied Potato nothing particularly suspicious, however his logic seems sound.

Manchu (Frenzied Potato currently voting for) nothing particularly suspicious, however his logic seems sound.

Orkeosaurus nothing particularly suspicious.

Valhallan42nd nothing particularly suspicious, however his logic seems sound.

Drk_Oblitr8r (Manchu, Dark Lord Seanron, Gwar! currently voting for) Very suspect, he may have kept an accurate count of votes for himself, and as a gamble it seems to have paid off. Is also voting for no lynch, which is against us all.

Dark Lord Seanron Very suspect, hiding behind a shroud of the Mechanicus and the Omnissah is a clever rouse to keep us away from a potential genestealer sympathizer.

Gwar! nothing particularly suspicious.

Demogerg is not a genestealer

Lord-Loss suspect. seems to flip around a bit in his opinions, I cannot tell what he is fearing, the genestealers, or the wrath of the Emperor.

Gornall nothing particularly suspicious, however his logic seems sound.

airman (BrotherStynier, Lord-Loss, Valhallan42nd currently voting for) Very suspect, I cannot pin my finger on it, but the logic presented in voting patterns put him high on my list of suspects. voting for no lynch does not help his case.


Ultrafool nothing particularly suspicious.

EDIT* double post

My experience with these scum tells me that their opinions about everyone will change on a whim, with the only real logic behind it being their own survival.
(OOC): when i was a genestealer last game, I had to work the town against itself, which means my "opinion" about people would change depending on who posted what about whom, If we can get everyones "concrete" opinions out in the open, then trying to adjust their opinion wildly on the fly will be harder to justify, and help to expose the Genestealers
.

(OOC) that was some suspicious OOC, demo!

Manchu wrote:(OOC) that was some suspicious OOC, demo!

OOC: I no rite?

Im keeping my eye on Drk_Oblit, but airman seems to be more of a threat In my eyes.

Demogerg, I fear that we will never reach Terra. I fear that I shall die in this metal shell, my bones scatted through space.

Lord-Loss wrote:Im keeping my eye on Drk_Oblit, but airman seems to be more of a threat In my eyes.

Demogerg, I fear that we will never reach Terra. I fear that I shall die in this metal shell, my bones scatted through space.

This response to my opinion does not even answer the rhetorical question posed in my opinion.

"we" as in us humans? or you genestealers? Fearing death is something best left for the Xenos. Humans have nothing to fear from death, if it is our one duty it is to die for the Emperor, then so be it.

Certainly--but to die grappling with His enemies, to bring His wrath! What ignominy to die cowering before them . . .

OOC: 1500th Post! For the Emperor!!!

OOC: Nevermind...

'We' as in humans.

I have no fear of dieing on Terra or any other planet, but I fear dieing in this metal tub.

If I die, I shall never fulfill the quest that The Holy Emperor sent me.

That quest being?

Lord-Loss wrote:Where did you get the conclusion that I might be a Genestealer?


LOG could have been a rogue pyker, I dont know about you, but I will not die before I see Holy Terra!

Airman was being unreasonable and I showed him sense.

Though I will unvote: Drk_Oblitr8r , as I now believe Airman to be a Genesteraler!


Vote: Airman

Valhallan42nd wrote:OOC: As have I.

unvote Drk_Obliter8r
VOTE: Airman

I pondered for a while, and bent my head in prayer. I think my instincts were right about Airman. I think Drk_oblit is too obvious.

BrotherStynier wrote:I also believe that Airman might be one of the culprits.

VOTE: Airman

May the Emperor have mercy on the innocent, and may he expose the guilty.

Pretty weak stuff, Airman. You have been accused. It'd be best to clear you name rather than relying on pious ejaculations.

OOC: Don't get too excited, I used that word correctly.

BrotherStynier wrote:That quest being?

To enrole in the Imperial Church and become a Priest.

Manchu wrote:pious ejaculations.

Hey, I love the Emperor as well, but lets not get distracted from the task set before us...

[query] so it is in fact not my actions, votes or alliances that make me suspect, but in fact my faith to Mars and the Omnissiah. Interesting - by that logic, then every one of you who has spouted some form of religious rhetoric is also highly suspect.

[clarification] all I have done is seen the suspect behaviour of Dark_Oblitr8r and analysed it, trying to shed some light on him and prove he isn't who he says he is. I have not tried to barter any compassion, petty temporary alliances or erratically vote to try turn you against each other. All I have done is work on my own internal logic and present my thoughts.

Subject Gornall has been a racist and biggoted piece of dirty code since he first laid eyes upon me, however that in itself is comforting. Our foe would be far cleverer than a low-brow fleshling such as him so I aim no suspicion toward him, plus it is comforting to know that I am so very different from him as well.

Valhallan has been a literal rhetoric factory since we discovered the captain...whether he is simply useless or biding his time I cannot say.

Manchu, whilst uncouthe, is by far the most trustworthy as he has been the most open about himself and to new evidence.

Airman, quiet quiet airman, could be the silent second monstrosity, however only time will tell.

Lord-Loss, Orkeosaurus and the others do not appear to be dangerous either. Indeed they appear to be blindly flailing, seeking the answer to our conundrum.

I have stood firm toward voting Oblitr8r because I believe in my power-core and soul that he is the arch-culprit. If I was indeed the monster, then I would simply sway with the others and pick off who was easy. Indeed Gornall, if I was the monster, you would have been dead long ago. However, I am an Omnissia-fearing priest of Mars, I am no alien, no xenos and certainly no enemy of our beloved Imperium.

The redrobe is all worked up but essentially right. I don't think anyone has made a particularly good case against him yet, either, other than his vote flip yesterday--which more people than him are guilty of, I believe.

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:Airman, quiet quiet airman, could be the silent second monstrosity, however only time will tell.

I prefer to be called "Airman, the insane hobgoblin."

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:
Valhallan has been a literal rhetoric factory since we discovered the captain...whether he is simply useless or biding his time I cannot say.

That "rhetoric" is the word of Faith, sir. And Faith alone moves mountains. Choose your words carefully, lest you tip towards heresy.

*sounds of mechanical function and digital scrapes issue from DLS's robes*

[apology] I do apologise for that outburst. I am still sadly connected to the wrath that allmankind feels toward itself.

Subject Gornall, I withdraw what I said about you. You are indeed biased and prejudice, but you are far from a simpleton. I offer a data-packet of apology to you.

As stated, I believe Oblitr8r to be the culprit. His behaviour has been too erratic to be left to chance. If he wishes to defend himself then let him voice his innocence.

And you are correct, I do not feel guilt or shame to what we all did, some of us through action, and some through inaction. Life is a formula, to be analysed and solved, and LoG was simply a deletion that had to be in order to shine light on key parts of lifes algorithm. Through his sacrifice, hopefully we can solve this complex algorithm together, and without further innocent bloodshed.

My Machine worshiping companion, if both Airman and Olitr8r are the genestealers than would not killing one of them draw the other out? Either ones death would be beneficial.

[caution] I am not sure what you are insinuating Brother Stynier...I have already cast my suspicion on Oblitr8r...

Either you are reiterating what I am saying, or you are trying to draw me into some form of morale debate which I will no doubt lose, as I am the only Mechanicus Adept here...

I am simply supporting your decision to kill Oblitr8r, with out removing my vote for Airman, as I believe there is a great possibility that they are the culprits and removing either one would be good for our group.

airman wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:Airman, quiet quiet airman, could be the silent second monstrosity, however only time will tell.

I prefer to be called "Airman, the insane hobgoblin."

Insane Hobgoblin? My suspicion of you being the culprit has risen.

It also splits our vote, however.

Indeed it would... which could be a problem. Continue to vote for Oblitr8r then, my vote will still stand for Airman. Something strikes me as odd about him. Like when you interrogate a witness you know in your gut knows more than they are letting on.

We've plenty of time yet. The quiet ones will undoubtedly rouse themselves for another confusing domino-effect pattern of voting to best hide their true intentions/motivations as the cycle winds down.

Then perhaps extra close attention should be paid to the quite ones?

You know, if it wasn't important to have every true man left alive to fight the Genestealers I would be fine with Drk_Oblit being lynched.

Seriously, I think you've got the wrong guy, but all of this talk has me curious...

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:
As stated, I believe Oblitr8r to be the culprit. His behaviour has been too erratic to be left to chance. If he wishes to defend himself then let him voice his innocence.

*facepalm* I did, I went into great detail explaining everything.

You replied with:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[conclusion] Subject Oblitr8r - I know you to be one of the guilty. Now you twist and now you turn but the cold hard light of the Omnissiahs gaze is upon you!

I say my words of innocence and explanation, and you beat me with a stick.

@Orkeosaurus: I understand your objection. The misadventure of LotG's eventual murder looked convincing enough especially if you had already bought into Drk_O's "I'm a confused, weak-willed innocent" personality. But isn't it more likely that someone who suspected they might be close to death would very carefully keep track of the votes against him? I admit, he did not change his vote until forty minutes after he allegedly lynched himself. That I cannot explain, having not witnessed it directly myself. (OOC: I was asleep dammit!) I, too, am not interested in seeing another innocent perish. I will readily change my vote if someone convinces me. As to Drk_O's change in personality, I understand that he had to pull himself together in a tight spot. As to his mistakenly boarding a vessel bound for Terra, that's absolute rubbish. He's hiding something. If it's not that he's a genestealer, we still need to find out what.

*Edit to reflect speaking to Orkeosaurus

Manchu wrote:As to Drk_O's change in personality, I understand that he had to pull himself together in a tight spot. As to his mistakenly boarding a vessel bound for Terra, that's absolute rubbish. He's hiding something. If it's not that he's a genestealer, we still need to find out what.

If you stare at Holy Terras blue sky long enough, you'll find out it's blue.

If you mean that I should be able to observe the obvious, my lad, then let me tell you that I can: it is obvious to me that you are keeping something from the rest of us, that you are advocating that we take no action in dire circumstances, and that you have not contributed to the discussion of late except as to complain that others might suspect you--which is itself the most absurd piece of rubbish yet given that the only people who do not suspect each other of any kind of treachery are the two damned xenos, warp take them, who know that they are working together to murder the rest of us. Now, you shifty little enigma, speak plainly: are you an alien, yea or nay? What is your mind with regard to these others? And as to Airman? You have been accused of being his accomplice. What say you?

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Manchu wrote:As to Drk_O's change in personality, I understand that he had to pull himself together in a tight spot. As to his mistakenly boarding a vessel bound for Terra, that's absolute rubbish. He's hiding something. If it's not that he's a genestealer, we still need to find out what.

If you stare at Holy Terras blue sky long enough, you'll find out it's blue.

Are you drunk?

Even the most brain dead child knows Holy Terra has a Holy Yellowgrey Sky!

More proof that Drk_Oblitr8r is a heretic!

Gwar! wrote:Even the most brain dead child knows Holy Terra has a Holy Yellowgrey Sky!

More proof that Drk_Oblitr8r is a heretic!

What color is Baal's sky? He might be getting them confused again.

Perhaps, Gwar!, perhaps. But we must allow that the Imperial Palace is portrayed in as many ways as there are deacons illuminator. Perhaps on Baal they claim Terra's sky is blue.

*Edit for really dreadful spelling

To answer both Manchu's and Lord-Loss's Questions.
No, I am neither Xenos nor Drunk.

And Gwar! it was only a saying. It means if you keep trying to look for something out in the open, you'll only find common knowlegde.

Also Manchu, I beleive I was the first to vote for airman today.

Also, I'll change my vote to not voting for now
Unvote: No Lynch
I don't want my vote to cause another innocent to die, and a vote for pacifism will lead to that. Unless the Genestealers turn ont themselves for some reason.

Yes, you did vote for Airman. You voted for him because you said you agreed with my criticism of him for voting "no lynch." (And, might I add, when I criticized Airman, I reiterated my vote for you.) Very soon afterwards, you then changed your vote to me claiming that it was because I was offended by people unvoting you. Then, in a most perplexing turn of events, you changed your vote to "no lynch," the very vote that had earned Airman you earlier vote. You have just now changed your vote again, this time from "no lynch" to nothing because you acknowledge, as I have said all along, that it will only result in our having yet slimmer chances.

You have got to admit, this looks rather bad.

In the words of Cardinal Dexeleius III:

"It is better for a hundred innocent men to die than for one guilty man to go free."

But did you just say . . .

Orkeosaurus wrote:You know, if it wasn't important to have every true man left alive to fight the Genestealers I would be fine with Drk_Oblit being lynched.

The Cardinal has authority in this matter, I'm sure. I hope that we can reconcile both positions, however. And as Stynier and others have reminded us--who is really innocent? Innocent of the alien taint, yes, but guilty of something or another.

Oh, of course we can reconcile them: Killing innocents reduces our ability to fight the Emperor's foes.

Otherwise we could simply have the lot of us burned, and the Aliens would pay for their crimes.

Manchu wrote:Yes, you did vote for Airman. You voted for him because you said you agreed with my criticism of him for voting "no lynch." (And, might I add, when I criticized Airman, I reiterated my vote for you.) Very soon afterwards, you then changed your vote to me claiming that it was because I was offended by people unvoting you. Then, in a most perplexing turn of events, you changed your vote to "no lynch," the very vote that had earned Airman you earlier vote. You have just now changed your vote again, this time from "no lynch" to nothing because you acknowledge, as I have said all along, that it will only result in our having yet slimmer chances.

You have got to admit, this looks rather bad.

It does.

I changed my vote to you, because I FELT that you were, I don't know if you were, but I'm guessing you weren't now, but you haven't really said.

I changed my vote to no lynch because I was angry, and voting for no one to die is the quickest way to let someone die. I'm sorry for doing so for this reason.

Haven't said what? That I'm not a fething genestealer? That I'm the same species as our beloved God-Emperor? Well, I am. I don't know what consolation it gives you or how you feel you can trust it, but here it is: I am not an alien. I am a human being.

Well, you have now at least admitted to wanting to kill us. The others will decide for themselves what your motives were. As for me, that you were angry is not enough.

Orkeosaurus wrote:Oh, of course we can reconcile them: Killing innocents reduces our ability to fight the Emperor's foes.

Otherwise we could simply have the lot of us burned, and the Aliens would pay for their crimes.

I sort of agree, if we blow the ship up, we could kill the genestealers more easily, and those amoung us who are not, would make the ultimate sacrifice to save Holy Terra.

Manchu wrote:Haven't said what? That I'm not a fething genestealer? That I'm the same species as our beloved God-Emperor? Well, I am. I don't know what consolation it gives you or how you feel you can trust it, but here it is: I am not an alien. I am a human being.

Well, you have now at least admitted to wanting to kill us. The others will decide for themselves what your motives were. As for me, that you were angry is not enough.

I believe you've misheard me. I meant that you haven't said whether or not you were really offended. But I'm almost 90% sure you weren't

Do any of us here know how to accomplish such a thing?

*edit (OOC: can we mass suicide? if so, which side wins?)

I was not offended. I was suspicious. It was like you held them in the palm of your hand, like you were guiding them to do your bidding. That seemed rather unnatural. The whole mess was a storm of suspicious behavior with you at its eye.

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:I sort of agree, if we blow the ship up, we could kill the genestealers more easily, and those amoung us who are not, would make the ultimate sacrifice to save Holy Terra.

The counter argument would have to be "there's no chance of them getting off the ship anyways". I mean, they wouldn't have gotten past Cadia's security, and I would guess the Sol System is better guarded.

And what if the Genestealers themselves hope to destroy something (or someone) on the ship? Or perhaps only seek to destroy the ship itself for the spite they have towards our manifest destiny.

There is no telling what motives lurk deep within the brain of the alien. On the other hand, it could be in their best interest that we destroy the ship if it is carrying something precious to the Imperium--whether in cargo or in passengers. Mayhap there is an Inquisitor here present. And what about the alleged little brother we heard about before?

Manchu wrote:I was not offended. I was suspicious. It was like you held them in the palm of your hand, like you were guiding them to do your bidding. That seemed rather unnatural. The whole mess was a storm of suspicious behavior with you at its eye.

I can see where you're coming from, but, if I didn't lead them to make the decision they did, you'd be voting for me because of what others have done.

I assure you, I did beleive I was Lynched, (OOC: I even wrote my death speech thingy). It was no stroke of tactical genious, but simply luck.

I hate luck. I'd rather it had been some trick than luck, because luck brought me here, and luck will kill me.

Drk_Oblit, If we blow up the ship, what happens to your poor mother on Bal?

Your first point is actually quite valid. But Orkeosaurus has already attempted to make it. I find a weakness in his argument--that you truly thought yourself a goner--and a strength--that you left yourself exposed to danger for a while afterward. If I conclude that you knew that you were actually in no danger, the strength of his argument is easily squared: you did not bother to change your vote because you knew it would not contribute to your death in any case. But how could you know that? You couldn't, not with certainty at least. But you could have a good chance if the only people around were (a) not terribly great in number, (b) either already mobilized or being mobilized, by Orkeosaurus for example, to vote for LotG, and if (c) you are a genestealer and your fellow xenos was present at the time so you knew you could count on him. As for (a) and (b), I do not know for I was not present. And as to (c), it must serve as a premise and a conclusion at the same time. It is not the best argument, I concede, but it is the best one I have yet come up with.

I have not turned my full attention to Airman yet, however.

In any case, your voting pattern as I have outlined it above also makes you look guilty.

Manchu wrote:Your first point is actually quite valid. But Orkeosaurus has already attempted to make it. I find a weakness in his argument--that you truly thought yourself a goner--and a strength--that you left yourself exposed to danger for a while afterward. If I conclude that you knew that you were actually in no danger, the strength of his argument is easily squared: you did not bother to change your vote because you knew it would not contribute to your death in any case. But how could you know that? You couldn't, not with certainty at least. But you could have a good chance if the only people around were (a) not terribly great in number, (b) either already mobilized or being mobilized, by Orkeosaurus for example, to vote for LotG, and if (c) you are a genestealer and your fellow xenos was present at the time so you knew you could count on him. As for (a) and (b), I do not know for I was not present. And as to (c), it must serve as a premise and a conclusion at the same time. It is not the best argument, I concede, but it is the best one I have yet come up with.

I have not turned my full attention to Airman yet, however.

In any case, your voting pattern as I have outlined it above also makes you look guilty.

Very good points Manchu. I am interested to hear your analysis of Airman also. These types of logical arguments are what we need, not rhetoric.

Lord-Loss wrote:Drk_Oblit, If we blow up the ship, what happens to your poor mother on Bal?

Simply put she would die if she existed at all. Just one more sacrifice to protect the Imperium from the foul xenos.

Manchu wrote:Haven't said what? That I'm not a fething genestealer? That I'm the same species as our beloved God-Emperor? Well, I am. I don't know what consolation it gives you or how you feel you can trust it, but here it is: I am not an alien. I am a human being.

Well, you have now at least admitted to wanting to kill us. The others will decide for themselves what your motives were. As for me, that you were angry is not enough.

As much as I hate to take his side Manchu, even the enemy could claim to be the same species as the most glorious Emperor. Also I have stated my desire to kill at least two of our group numerous times. Does that make me a xenos or over zealous in my ways?

I made it clear that may mere claim to be human could not and should not be convincing in and of itself. As to killing--killing a suspect is one thing (hence my scorn for the "no lynch" option) but standing by and intentionally doing nothing when the result will surely be the death of another citizen is quite another thing altogether. Stynier, surely you see the distinction?

Indeed I do. I would think the death of an innocent by our hands would be a better option than not killing and allowing the xenos to claim another. For us killing one who may be human and the xenos claiming another could ultimately help us solve this mystery.

There is no way to proceed without risk. That we might kill a fellow human is actually less risky than refusing to kill any one at all, I agree. But by using our full faculties of reason, we may yet steer a better course than we have before.

Well then let us note who have acted most suspiciously in the past, I will put forth us as an example.

Both of us claim to be Arbites or former Arbites, we seem to have no issue killing our own and in the past we have agreed and supported each other several times.

Don't forget, we have both implacably voted for a single suspect today.

What about Gwar!--the intensely quite fellow? There are a few others that make me nervous for their nigh interminable silence, but he is the worst offender.

Gornall, you insist on reason and logic often enough but seem prepared to let others do the cyber mastiff's share of the argumentation.

DLS has done a very good job of alienating several other people and recently lost his cool altogether in the face of persistent if singular accusations.

BrotherStynier wrote:

Lord-Loss wrote:Drk_Oblit, If we blow up the ship, what happens to your poor mother on Bal?

Simply put she would die if she existed at all. Just one more sacrifice to protect the Imperium from the foul xenos.

And she would be proud of me, and died knowing her son made an honorable sacrifice. She'd be even happier than if I was there caring for her, because all my life she wanted me to be brave, like her father, he was a Commisar.

Ah, perhaps Stynier would recognize his name. Stynier was at the Schola, you know.

Wouldnt your dad be ashamed, that only after two people died, you stopped acting like a child?

Lord-Loss wrote:Wouldnt your dad be ashamed, that only after two people died, you stopped acting like a child?

I'm ashamed of my father, I've never known him.

Indeed we have.

Gwar yes he is rather quite it is suspicious, though it could be he is a simple traveler and the fact he maybe trying to put that aura off adds suspicion.


Gornall, the simple farmer seems to be more than that. Have you ever met a simple farmer that insists on reason or logic? I think not.

DLS has been doing a rather good job at alienating people, though in my experience that Mechanicum does a good job at alienating. If the xenos knew this they could try to play off of that.

Airman and Oblitr8r both arouse my suspicion for obvious reasons.

Frenzied has attracted my attention through his rather suspicious claim.

Manchu wrote:Ah, perhaps Stynier would recognize his name. Stynier was at the Schola, you know.

Indeed I was, perhaps we attended the same Schola? What was your grandfather's name Oblitr8r?

Manchu wrote:Gornall, you insist on reason and logic often enough but seem prepared to let others do the cyber mastiff's share of the argumentation.

I gave my reasoning for each member late yesterday. Not much has changed. I will compile my notes and respond very soon with my latest thoughts.

Frenzied is voting for me. I addressed his reason more than adequately, in my opinion. He did not himself challenge my arguments but his vote stands. I don't know what to make of that.

Manchu wrote:Frenzied is voting for me. I addressed his reason more than adequately, in my opinion. He did not himself challenge my arguments but his vote stands. I don't know what to make of that.

Welcome to my world.

Manchu wrote:(OOC: can we mass suicide? if so, which side wins?)

As with many rules system - we have a permissive one here at Genestealer!. Since there is no mass suicide option you may not mass suicide. I suppose arguably if everyone managed to die it would be a Genestealer victory since their win condition is primarily to kill all the townies, not necessarily to survive till the end. In actuality it would probably be ruled a draw.

BrotherStynier wrote:

Manchu wrote:Ah, perhaps Stynier would recognize his name. Stynier was at the Schola, you know.

Indeed I was, perhaps we attended the same Schola? What was your grandfather's name Oblitr8r?

I'm not sure if you met him. He was Colonel Janssen of the Cadian 23rd.

You said he was a Commissar...

Maybe he's like Gaunt.

BrotherStynier wrote:Gornall, the simple farmer seems to be more than that. Have you ever met a simple farmer that insists on reason or logic? I think not.

My many years of farming taught me that moaning about the drought doesn't water the crops. It's best to think the problem through and either dig an aqueduct or grab a bucket and start hauling.

Here are my notes:
LoG: Dead(my only reservation is if he might be a sanctioned pysker who is just addled). (We know how that turned out)
Manchu: I see no current problems with his story or actions. My one concern is he is almost too active, but the same could be said about myself.
DarkO: His actions earlier would either make him the smartest or the absolute dumbest Xenos ever. Manchu makes a convincing argument about his "sacrifice", however. I am not above voting for him if a more suitable suspect is not found.
Orkesaurus: His story of survival with no limbs seems somewhat suspect. I'm still unsure of his voting pattern.
Ultrafool: I do not know what to make of his story about his hidden "brother". They could be the very traitors themselves. He has also been very quiet of late, possibly laying low.
Mekboy: Dead
Valhallan: He was the last person to vote for DarkO/LoG... he also seems to vote with Orkesaurus regularly.
Dark Lord Seanron: He was quick to throw DarkO under the bus when things were first heating up against LoG
Airman: He wanted to dispose of the body... also, no rhyme or reason to his voting patterns other than jumping on wagons.
Stynier: I see no current problems with his story or actions. Seems to be very focused on Airman.
Gwar!: He is almost too quiet. He only seems to talk as he is casting a vote for whoever has the most votes. And he still smells like troll.
Demogerg: He seems to know too much about the heretical Xenos. However most of what he says seems to make sense. I am unsure of his voting patterns.
Lord-Loss: He follows everyone elses votes way too much. Specifically he seems to follow Valhallan quite a bit.
Frenzied Potato: He also has been too quiet.

I'm having a difficult time keeping up with all the voting changes, and I think that is probably intentional by the Xenos. The more they muddy the waters, the harder it is for us to determine their true intentions. Further, I do not know what if any conclusions we can draw from Mekboy's murder. I think it is still early in the voyage, so it is quite possible the Xenos picked someone at random rather than risk tipping their hands.

BrotherStynier wrote:You said he was a Commissar...

My mother told me he was...

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

BrotherStynier wrote:You said he was a Commissar...

My mother told me he was...

Wait Drk_Oblitr8r, you said your father was a commissar, than Stynier said what was your grandfathers name, you replied, then he said that you said he was a commissar,and than you said your mom told me so.

So who is the commissar your father of your grandfather?

Gornall,

Let me establish my voting pattern for you:

I vote for people I think might be genestealers.

Like Airman.

Ultrafool wrote:So who is the commissar your father of your grandfather?

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:She'd be even happier than if I was there caring for her, because all my life she wanted me to be brave, like her father, he was a Commisar.

So supposedly your grandfather was the Commissar.

Oh Sorry I was confused.

BrotherStynier wrote:So supposedly your grandfather was the Commissar.

Mhmmm....

[loading data spool] Subject: Baal - Millennia before the founding of the Imperium, Baal and its two moons were all but destroyed by in a terrible war. Ancient viral and nuclear weapons had turned the once idyllic worlds into toxic wastelands. The survivors became scavengers, constantly moving from places to places, and warring to preserve the spoils they gathered.

Baal's two moons are designated Baal Primus and Baal Secundus, from which the Astartes Blood Angels take their new recruits {clarification required}

In ancient days Baal and its moons had earth-like atmospheres. Baal itself was always a world of red rust deserts, but its moons were close to paradises. As the Dark Age of Technology (Omnissiah preserve us) ended in the Age of Strife, civil war erupted between the world and its colonised moons, leading to the nuclear devastation of the planets.

Baal Secundus has since been a nuclear-blasted desert world with deadly levels of radiation. This forced the world's human tribes to build cumbersome radiation suits in order to survive. Mutants were once rife upon the world, frequently at war with the remaining pure humans for dominance of the planet.

[conclusion] hardly a suitable locale to find a commisar, or even for one to settle his family down upon. Indeed, unless your grandfather was a mutant posing as a commisar or he and your mother had a disagreement that had her shipped to Baal as punishment, I find your story highly suspect...

[furthermore] you are quoted as stating your Father was Cadian. How can it be that someone from Cadia came to Father yourself with a woman from Baal? Cadia is part of the Segmentum Obscurus, whilst Baal is in the Ultima Segmentum. Baal's system itself has no standing PDF or Imperial Guard, however is policed by the Astartes, so the likliehood of a Cadian regiment (Cadians being loath to leave their homeworld undefended) being within 240 parsecs of Baal is highly dubious. Your stories and answers do not add up Obitr8r.

[furthermore] Also, surely fraternisation with a Commisar's daughter is something the usually strictly disciplined and loyal soldiers of Cadia would not do...

Gornal, I voted for LOG cause I thought he was a rogue pyker.

I voted for Drk_Oblit because he was acting strange, trying to make himself less suspicous.

I voted for Airman because He wanted to dispose of the evidence and voted 'no:Lynch'.

OOC: So quiet today...

OOC: busy at work, stupid halloween sale.

(OOC:going on camping trip, will be gone for two days.)

-Turns to the people who haven't voted-

So, are you just gonna sit there with your jaws flapping all day or are you actually gonna do something to protect the ship?

A bit blood thirsty are we, Gwar!?

Still, just because we have three terran standard weeks, doesn't mean we need to use those weeks.

Manchu wrote:Frenzied is voting for me. I addressed his reason more than adequately, in my opinion. He did not himself challenge my arguments but his vote stands. I don't know what to make of that.

<OOC> Long day havnt got to posting that and Tekken 6 came out very sorry.

UNVOTE: MANCHU


My reasoning was in the previous argument I made. I believe this is what Mekboy intended and I can see why he would have "if" he was allowed. Especially if I die following suit.

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:It does.

I changed my vote to you, because I FELT that you were, I don't know if you were, but I'm guessing you weren't now, but you haven't really said.

I changed my vote to no lynch because I was angry, and voting for no one to die is the quickest way to let someone die. I'm sorry for doing so for this reason.

So you changed your vote to no lynch because you believe it is the quickest way for someone to die?

Explain yourself.

In my eyes and the reasoning from my previous arguement I will follow Mekboy's line of thought I believe he had. Airman or You Drk_Oblit.

I don't know that either of them can or will explain themselves any better than they already have. My instinct tells me that Airman is involved, and that Drk_Oblit is not. But you may come to a different answer.

I realise that I am one of the most suspected people so far, but because of this, many have escaped suspicion almost purely by luck (As Manchu said). I as someone who hates luck, I think we have to try and find out more about everyone else.

DLS, I would think that you of all people should know my grand father. He should be in at least your records.(OOC:He's from actual fluff)

Frenzied Potato wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:It does.

I changed my vote to you, because I FELT that you were, I don't know if you were, but I'm guessing you weren't now, but you haven't really said.

I changed my vote to no lynch because I was angry, and voting for no one to die is the quickest way to let someone die. I'm sorry for doing so for this reason.

So you changed your vote to no lynch because you believe it is the quickest way for someone to die?

Explain yourself.

In my eyes and the reasoning from my previous arguement I will follow Mekboy's line of thought I believe he had. Airman or You Drk_Oblit.

My comment explained itself. Please, listen to what I say before you decide you're against it.

Just incase it's still unclear.

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[furthermore] you are quoted as stating your Father was Cadian. How can it be that someone from Cadia came to Father yourself with a woman from Baal? Cadia is part of the Segmentum Obscurus, whilst Baal is in the Ultima Segmentum. Baal's system itself has no standing PDF or Imperial Guard, however is policed by the Astartes, so the likliehood of a Cadian regiment (Cadians being loath to leave their homeworld undefended) being within 240 parsecs of Baal is highly dubious. Your stories and answers do not add up Obitr8r.

[furthermore] Also, surely fraternisation with a Commisar's daughter is something the usually strictly disciplined and loyal soldiers of Cadia would not do...

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Ultrafool wrote:So who is the commissar your father of your grandfather?

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:She'd be even happier than if I was there caring for her, because all my life she wanted me to be brave, like her father, he was a Commisar.

Bolded the importantest part.

I have made no mention of my father, because as I have said

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Lord-Loss wrote:Wouldnt your dad be ashamed, that only after two people died, you stopped acting like a child?

I'm ashamed of my father, I've never known him.

I haven't even heard about him. Even when I asked my mother she would look at me with a look of fear, which was a rare occurance for her, and if she was scared, then you'd have to realise how scary that was for me. I only ever asked twice.

I still think DarkO to be too obvious. I am not convinced of Airman's guilt however. Currently my focus lies on Lord-Loss as he seems to follow Valhallan's lead on votes. That and both of them seemed very defensive about my notes. However, that is just a nagging thought and I do not have enough evidence to back it up.

Still, a decision has to be made, one way or the other. Even deciding not to take out a suspected xenos is a decision.

I still say that I am right and Airman is a prime suspect.

OOC: We have a lot of time here don't we?

OOC: Yes, AND my ADD is making me WANT TO FORCE CHOKE PEOPLE. And I mean that in the most loving way possible.

Once again allow me to say I too believe we should take out Airman...

How about we just vote for someone, the more time we waste thinking about what we're going to do, the more likely the genestealers reach Holy Terra.

VOTE: airman

Drk Oblit, have you voted since the last official vote tally? Since you're on the St. Laura Roslin Expressway to Airlock City, you might want to excercise your sufferage prior to arrival.

EDIT: Ninja'ed. Still, the above comment is funny, so it stays.

As I do not think DarkO is the most pressing suspect, and I do not forsee more evidence turning up until after another lynching, I will vote for Airman. However, I still think the ones who tend to vote with each other should be watched closely.

Vote: Airman

I've been saying Airman for quite sometime now.

BrotherStynier wrote:I've been saying Airman for quite sometime now.

I know

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:How about we just vote for someone, the more time we waste thinking about what we're going to do, the more likely the genestealers reach Holy Terra.

VOTE: airman

They need the Captain's pass codes to get past the fleet as Stubbs has mentioned. Well her's or some other important figure but our Psyker is dead.

Where is Stubbs, anyway? I haven't seen him recently...

Sorry, tired. Not easy getting to sleep knowing what could come crawling through your doorway.

Think I should vote Airman? He does seem fairly suspicious. Although as the Techpriest noted, Oblitr8r's story is getting more and more unlikely.

Airman has been quieter, more subtle. I think he constitutes the larger threat.

Emperor guide my words.

Vote: Airman

I will vote Airman, he was suspicious from the start. He has been quite I think that he is hiding something from us.

I hope that our decision was a right one men. Vote Airman

I just did a worked out the votes since the last time they were checked, and this is how it looks atm

0 - Vote BrotherStynier
0 - Vote Frenzied Potato
0 - Vote Manchu
0 - Vote Orkeosaurus
0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
3 - Vote Drk_Oblitr8r (Manchu, Dark Lord Seanron, Gwar!)
0 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron
0 - Vote Gwar!
0 - Vote Demogerg
0 - Vote Lord-Loss
0 - Vote Gornall
7 - Vote airman (BrotherStynier, Lord-Loss, Valhallan42nd, Drk_Oblitr8r, Gornall, Orkeosaurus, Ultrafool)
0 - Vote Ultrafool

1 - Vote No Lynch (airman)

2 - Not Voting (Demogerg, Frenzied Potato)

7 to lynch

[EDIT: Ninja'd, fixed to include Ultrafool]

May the Emperor grant us justice, and may He guide our hands. Ave.

May he have mercy on our souls if we are wrong.

Many of the reasons given recently for voting Airman are quite superficial. This is the second time Drk_O has rather quickly escaped a lynch--and I see you've been keeping a close tally of the votes along the way. Still, what's done is done. The result will either discredit all of my suspicions about your or completely cement them.

Manchu wrote:Many of the reasons given recently for voting Airman are quite superficial. This is the second time Drk_O has rather quickly escaped a lynch--and I see you've been keeping a close tally of the votes along the way. Still, what's done is done. The result will either discredit all of my suspicions about your or completely cement them.

I made that tally in a grand total of 2-3 mins, and I didn't save it.

I didn't actually think that encouraging people to vote would be this quick, and I made the tally so we could deicide appropriately.

Why is it all of my decisions seem suspicious in hindsight.

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Why is it all of my decisions seem suspicious in hindsight.

That's a very good question.

Ye Seventh Vote Accounting
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0 - Vote BrotherStynier
0 - Vote Frenzied Potato
0 - Vote Manchu
0 - Vote Orkeosaurus
0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
3 - Vote Drk_Oblitr8r (Manchu, Dark Lord Seanron, Gwar!)
0 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron
0 - Vote Gwar!
0 - Vote Demogerg
0 - Vote Lord-Loss
0 - Vote Gornall
7 - Vote airman (BrotherStynier, Lord-Loss, Valhallan42nd, Drk_Oblitr8r, Gornall, Orkeosaurus, Ultrafool)
0 - Vote Ultrafool

1 - Vote No Lynch (airman)

2 - Not Voting (Demogerg, Frenzied Potato)

With 13 alive it requires 7 to Lynch

airman is lynched.
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Day 2 is now over
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With grim certainty the mob turns upon airman - certainly he is the heretic amongst them! They descend on him quickly and mete out the Emperor's justice in various painful and unpleasant ways.

When it is over a quick search through his belongings uncovers a book of epic interpretive man-love poetry by L.E. Johnson and a meritorious badge of heretic purging.

airman was a normal Imperial Citizen
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Night Phase 2 has now begun, 72 hour timer for all night decisions begins now
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All Night choices are now in
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The hunt would go well.

The hunter slipped out of the air duct and positioned himself quietly in the corner. He eyed his prey carefully and smiled. The figure slept soundly, no doubt dreaming weak dreams of a perfidious Emperor corpse. The hunter reached over and ever so slightly opened the valve on the water basin. The gentle drip of moisture onto the bare metal was as unto a funeral march.

::plink:: ::plink::

The prey shifted uneasily in his sleep, perhaps managing to sense the danger on some primal level, perhaps a simple reaction to the noise. The hunter grinned, readying his blade as he waited for the moment to ripen. Like a sweet fruit you had to make sure to pluck terror at just the right moment, else all would be for naught. Finally the moment came, sleep bleary eyes opened slowly and then widened in terror as they saw the shape in the corner. Yes! There! The instant of recognition had come and the terror of imminent death mixed with ever so sweet betrayal became a bounty of which he would drink deeply.

The hunter struck fast and hard, his prey never managed to even scream.

His work done he returned to his chambers after cleaning up. The evidence had been removed and all that would be found was a body, a body that would bring more sweet terror with the coming of day. The hunter grinned as he opened the door to his room and slipped inside. He paused as he secured the lock - something was wrong here. He turned slowly, faintly hearing the sound of other beings breathing the air in his small chamber. His eyes widened as he saw the figures waiting for him, saw the gleaming claws and grinning faces. 'Clever beasts' he mused to himself as they sprang forward.

Their hunt had gone well.
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You all awaken in the morning and do a quick head count. Two of you are missing! Neither Orkeosaurus nor Manchu have appeared! Wondering if perhaps they are the foul xenos you all first rush to Orkeosaurus' room. The old (slightly battered) Guardsmen looks even worse then you would have expected. Horrible things have been done to him and vile Chaos spawned propaganda has been carved into his flesh. With growing horror you turn and rush for Manchu's room. You find him slumped against the door, sprawling out into the hallway as you open it. His body ripped at and torn apart by xenos claws.

(normally I wouldn't reveal who killed whom in the Night phase, but this one seems fairly obvious once you learn the roles so I took the chance for artistic liberty)

Orkeosaurus is dead - he was an Imperial Citizen
Manchu is dead - he was a Night Lords Aspirant

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Day 3 has now begun, 3 week timer starts here
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With 10 alive it requires 6 to lynch

Holy Emperor! How many Xenos and Heretics are there!?!? Only by His grace have the xenos killed the unknown heretic amongst us. Now we must seize upon this stroke of divine grace and finally uproot the rest of the scum hiding among us.

I think we all know who is behind this...

(makes the cog-symbol of the Mechanicus) Omnissiah preserve us...the great enemy was amongst us...

::Catching his breath and thinking::

Why would Manchu kill Stumpy? Why would the xenos target Manchu, especially if they didn't know that he was a heretic?

Poor old Stumpy, he never stood a chance.

Im seriously confused and I have a new strategy for voting.

Suspect those who you never suspected before.

There was something going on with Frienzed Potatao and Manchu, Manchu seemed to be closing in on him.

So I vote : Frienzed Potatoa

[disbelief] I concured with the heretic... there is a grave flaw in my logic if my thoughts can reach the same end as a hide-cursed heretic...

(visibly shudders)

[query] did the xenos know? did something lead them to him?? Did he make an enemy of one of us...

[mourning] The truth is shrouded from me...

This is most uneventful, Stumps a loyal guardsman dead, and Manchu was a traitor. My mind is confused, is there more traitors on the ship?!

Ultrafool wrote:This is most uneventful, Stumps a loyal guardsman dead, and Manchu was a traitor. My mind is confused, is there more traitors on the ship?!

Of course there are, who do you think killed Stumps!

::at the mention of the accursed traitor's name the room chills ever so slightly and one might almost have sworn that there was a low, icily mirthful chuckle on the air; then all fades into silence and suspicion once again::

[query] Subject Gwar, you stated it that it was obvious who the culprit is...I am...lost and addled, who did this?? who?

It is Drk_Oblitr8r! Manchu was the most vocal against him, and now he winds up dead. Even if he was a filthy traitor who deserved nothing less, we can use his death to prevent ours!

voterk_Oblitr8r

[agreement] the evidence is damning indeed...and stacking up against Oblitr8r. That is twice now he has dodged the vote, and twice more people have died.

I must concur with Gwar...the evidence is too steep for you all to ignore now...

vote: Dark_Oblitr8r