It does make sense why he would want Manchu dead.
I will take this under deep consideration until someone else cracks even more then he did.

It could also be a setup to make him look guilty. I am still unconvinced of his ability to be that cunning with the votes on the first day. I am more concerned about those who are voting together or jumping on at the end to make sure someone is lynched. However, it may just be best to get him out of the way so everyone will start looking at other alternatives. I think we're focusing way too much on DarkO... to the point where we missed a heretic in our midst. Furthermore, this heretic was voting for DarkO. It's not in his interest to vote for genestealers. Rather he would rather have their help until he is able to deal with them later. (A plan that didn't work out so well for him though...)

Just some thoughts.

[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!one!!

His Stumpy Stumps were an inspiration to at least me.

Well, this is, at least, a very twisty twist.


[edit: added crying faces]

Gornall, from your thought their where three people who voted for Drk_obliti8r, Manchu who is dead, DLS, and Gwar.The do you think the two have something to do with murders?

*Turns to Lord-loss* vote those who seem less suspicious? Your tactic will not help and cause more confusion.

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

Dark Lord Seanron, who do we know among us to have claws?

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

Dark Lord Seanron, who do we know among us to have claws?

[clarification] do not seek to take that tone with me child...

*Seanron activates his four mechandrites, each tipped with various mechanical tools and Mechanicum paraphinalia. None of you have the slightest idea what each device is for, however you do know they definately don't look like claws*

[explanation] I am blessed that the Omnissiah saw fit to augment me so, however I lack the physical claws you speak of.

[accusation] You are making very light of this situation. No doubt by the end of this night I will have your claws at my throat Oblitr8r.

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

Dark Lord Seanron, who do we know among us to have claws?

[clarification] do not seek to take that tone with me child...

*Seanron activates his four mechandrites, each tipped with various mechanical tools and Mechanicum paraphinalia. None of you have the slightest idea what each device is for, however you do know they definately don't look like claws*

[explanation] I am blessed that the Omnissiah saw fit to augment me so, however I lack the physical claws you speak of.

[accusation] You are making very light of this situation. No doubt by the end of this night I will have your claws at my throat Oblitr8r.

[edited: for stupidity]

I meant no mistone.

I hope the others do not condemn you Dark Lord Seanron.

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

Dark Lord Seanron, who do we know among us to have claws?

[clarification] do not seek to take that tone with me child...

*Seanron activates his four mechandrites, each tipped with various mechanical tools and Mechanicum paraphinalia. None of you have the slightest idea what each device is for, however you do know they definately don't look like claws*

[explanation] I am blessed that the Omnissiah saw fit to augment me so, however I lack the physical claws you speak of.

[accusation] You are making very light of this situation. No doubt by the end of this night I will have your claws at my throat Oblitr8r.

WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT, You have claws?

[chastisement] Quite clearly, you imbecile, I just pointed out I don't...pay attention to your betters, heretic...

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

Dark Lord Seanron, who do we know among us to have claws?

[clarification] do not seek to take that tone with me child...

*Seanron activates his four mechandrites, each tipped with various mechanical tools and Mechanicum paraphinalia. None of you have the slightest idea what each device is for, however you do know they definately don't look like claws*

[explanation] I am blessed that the Omnissiah saw fit to augment me so, however I lack the physical claws you speak of.

[accusation] You are making very light of this situation. No doubt by the end of this night I will have your claws at my throat Oblitr8r.

WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT, You have claws?

[chastisement] Quite clearly, you imbecile, I just pointed out I don't...pay attention to your betters, heretic...

(OOC: I edited it when I realised my stupidity before)

Seanron, you misunderstood me. I meant Gwar! hiding in the shadows and remaining silent unless he has to. But seem quick to defend yourself, perhaps that is because your chaos background is coming into the light?

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

Dark Lord Seanron, who do we know among us to have claws?

[clarification] do not seek to take that tone with me child...

*Seanron activates his four mechandrites, each tipped with various mechanical tools and Mechanicum paraphinalia. None of you have the slightest idea what each device is for, however you do know they definately don't look like claws*

[explanation] I am blessed that the Omnissiah saw fit to augment me so, however I lack the physical claws you speak of.

[accusation] You are making very light of this situation. No doubt by the end of this night I will have your claws at my throat Oblitr8r.

WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT, You have claws?

[chastisement] Quite clearly, you imbecile, I just pointed out I don't...pay attention to your betters, heretic...

(OOC: I edited it when I realised my stupidity before)

Seanron, you misunderstood me. I meant Gwar! hiding in the shadows and remaining silent unless he has to. But seem quick to defend yourself, perhaps that is because your chaos background is coming into the light?

[sarcasm] oh no Oblitr8r, you caught me, looks like I am indeed a heretic, and your superior brain-power has thwarted me.

[genuine] or maybe you are indeed the xenos, as I have claimed these past few days and simply seek to opportunistically turn us on each other and whittle down our numbers. I saw the slight in your phrase, you wanted to suggest that I am the clawed monstrosity that stalks this ship. I should have you deleted where you stand for your veiled insults and the damage I suspect you have inflicted upon us all.

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

Dark Lord Seanron, who do we know among us to have claws?

[clarification] do not seek to take that tone with me child...

*Seanron activates his four mechandrites, each tipped with various mechanical tools and Mechanicum paraphinalia. None of you have the slightest idea what each device is for, however you do know they definately don't look like claws*

[explanation] I am blessed that the Omnissiah saw fit to augment me so, however I lack the physical claws you speak of.

[accusation] You are making very light of this situation. No doubt by the end of this night I will have your claws at my throat Oblitr8r.

WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT, You have claws?

[chastisement] Quite clearly, you imbecile, I just pointed out I don't...pay attention to your betters, heretic...

(OOC: I edited it when I realised my stupidity before)

Seanron, you misunderstood me. I meant Gwar! hiding in the shadows and remaining silent unless he has to. But seem quick to defend yourself, perhaps that is because your chaos background is coming into the light?

[sarcasm] oh no Oblitr8r, you caught me, looks like I am indeed a heretic, and your superior brain-power has thwarted me.

[genuine] or maybe you are indeed the xenos, as I have claimed these past few days and simply seek to opportunistically turn us on each other and whittle down our numbers. I saw the slight in your phrase, you wanted to suggest that I am the clawed monstrosity that stalks this ship. I should have you deleted where you stand for your veiled insults and the damage I suspect you have inflicted upon us all.

Geez, I'm sorry. Don't cry now >_>.

I'm sorry you thought I sought to insult you. But you are indeed wrong in thinking I am a Xenos, a Heretic, or meaning to insult you. If I meant to insult you, I'd be direct about it, like, "Do you get satelite TV?" or "Can look up on Wiki to see who the traitors are?"

[disdain] moronic fleshling...

[conclusion] my vot for Oblitr8r stands, if you all see sense then you will do the same.

(OOC: Night guys ^^ off to the pit of sleep for me)

Ultrafool wrote:It does make sense why he would want Manchu dead.
I will take this under deep consideration until someone else cracks even more then he did.

Exactly, reguardless of what Manchu thought of me, I had the respect for him to not want him to die. However, that was our main problem.

That is why I shall VOTE: Dark Lord Seanron. I'm voting for him because I don't believe him to be a traitor/xenos.

What? you voted him because you don't believe he is a traitor?

Ultrafool wrote:What? you voted him because you don't believe he is a traitor?

Exactly, have you seen how voting for those who you think are a traitor have gone?

I like your thinking.

Ultrafool wrote:I like your thinking.

I just hope I'm right, or, wrong? gah, confusion.

<OOC> Night Lords Aspirant is what? Was what? Once I get an answer to this I will proceed with my vote / comment.

Quietly I rub my stubbled chin deep in thought, two more dead, one of them a person that made themselves an ally to most of us, most suspiciously and the other a Veteran Guardsman who tried to lighten the dark with his amusing quips. Wearily I glance around the room looking to my 'companions'.

"Deceived by a heretic we all have been, at least we can take solace in the fact he's now dead.

Frenzied Potato wrote:<OOC> Night Lords Aspirant is what? Was what? Once I get an answer to this I will proceed with my vote / comment.

(OOC: It's a role, if he only wins if he's the last surviving character)

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

Like I mentioned earlier, I am concerned that Lord Loss and Valhallan seem to share similar voting patterns. Also, Ultrafool seems to only jump in when the vote is pretty much decided. Valhallan also seems to wait until towards the end. Lord-Loss is almost always the first to offer a canidate for lynching. Further, all three are quick to jump on whichever person is closest to being lynched. My suspicion seems to lie with Lord-Loss the most. However, Ultrafool and Gwar! are so quiet that I am unable to figure out their motives, making them worthy of consideration too.

I am still against lynching DarkO for guilt reasons, as I think Manchu was trying to get him lynched because he was probably not a genestealer. The genestealers and Manchu share a common goal of killing all of us, so I think it is unlikely that he would want to kill someone with a common goal. Rather, he tries to get to us lynch DarkO while he personally kills Stubby, eliminating two innocents. I think the genestealers were probably just as suprised as we were that Manchu was a heretic. I assume (possibly incorrectly) that they chose him to make DarkO an obvious choice to lynch today. That would buy them another day of safety, allowing them to kill another one of us, making it that much harder for us to get the votes to lynch one of them.

Once again, this is wild speculation on my part. If we decide to lynch DarkO today and that allows the survivors to better investigate other suspects, then so be it. Before we do so, I do think we should take some time to question everyone on their voting to this point. That way in tomorrow's light, anyone who the Emperor blesses to survive the night will have more information to root out evil.

OOC The Aspirant is dead, killed by the Genestealers, there is only one of them.

Gornall wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

Like I mentioned earlier, I am concerned that Lord Loss and Valhallan seem to share similar voting patterns. Also, Ultrafool seems to only jump in when the vote is pretty much decided. Valhallan also seems to wait until towards the end. Lord-Loss is almost always the first to offer a canidate for lynching. Further, all three are quick to jump on whichever person is closest to being lynched. My suspicion seems to lie with Lord-Loss the most. However, Ultrafool and Gwar! are so quiet that I am unable to figure out their motives, making them worthy of consideration too.

I am still against lynching DarkO for guilt reasons, as I think Manchu was trying to get him lynched because he was probably not a genestealer. The genestealers and Manchu share a common goal of killing all of us, so I think it is unlikely that he would want to kill someone with a common goal. Rather, he tries to get to us lynch DarkO while he personally kills Stubby, eliminating two innocents. I think the genestealers were probably just as suprised as we were that Manchu was a heretic. I assume (possibly incorrectly) that they chose him to make DarkO an obvious choice to lynch today. That would buy them another day of safety, allowing them to kill another one of us, making it that much harder for us to get the votes to lynch one of them.

Once again, this is wild speculation on my part. If we decide to lynch DarkO today and that allows the survivors to better investigate other suspects, then so be it. Before we do so, I do think we should take some time to question everyone on their voting to this point. That way in tomorrow's light, anyone who the Emperor blesses to survive the night will have more information to root out evil.

Also, there is something I noticed. Gwar! and Dark Lord Seanron jumped to voting for me immediately.

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Also, there is something I noticed. Gwar! and Dark Lord Seanron jumped to voting for me immediately.

I've noticed that too. However, them voting together seems less suspicious to me than the others, simply because the Tin-can has been after you from the get go and hasn't hardly budged. The ones that bounce around to the easiest target are the ones that worry me more.

I am going to step out on a limb and place my vote where my suspicions lie...

Vote: Lord-Loss

While I don't have hard proof, this is what my gut is telling me is the right choice for now.

Gornall wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Also, there is something I noticed. Gwar! and Dark Lord Seanron jumped to voting for me immediately.

I've noticed that too. However, them voting together seems less suspicious to me than the others, simply because the Tin-can has been after you from the get go and hasn't hardly budged. The ones that bounce around to the easiest target are the ones that worry me more.

True, but I feel that the "tin can" has been acting suspiciously.

Dark Lord Seanron, if you manage to convince people that I am infact a genestealer, and have me lynched, then you will realise how wrong you are. Unless of course, you are a genestealer, then it will only serve to proove that you are. Or at least convince everyone that you are.

That's the risk you've taken by being hell bent on trying to get me lynched.

Gornall wrote:I am going to step out on a limb and place my vote where my suspicions lie...

Vote: Lord-Loss

While I don't have hard proof, this is what my gut is telling me is the right choice for now.

Sometimes, all you have to go on is your gut feeling and hope for the best. I hope it works out for you.

Gornall wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

Like I mentioned earlier, I am concerned that Lord Loss and Valhallan seem to share similar voting patterns. Also, Ultrafool seems to only jump in when the vote is pretty much decided. Valhallan also seems to wait until towards the end. Lord-Loss is almost always the first to offer a canidate for lynching. Further, all three are quick to jump on whichever person is closest to being lynched. My suspicion seems to lie with Lord-Loss the most. However, Ultrafool and Gwar! are so quiet that I am unable to figure out their motives, making them worthy of consideration too.

I am still against lynching DarkO for guilt reasons, as I think Manchu was trying to get him lynched because he was probably not a genestealer. The genestealers and Manchu share a common goal of killing all of us, so I think it is unlikely that he would want to kill someone with a common goal. Rather, he tries to get to us lynch DarkO while he personally kills Stubby, eliminating two innocents. I think the genestealers were probably just as suprised as we were that Manchu was a heretic. I assume (possibly incorrectly) that they chose him to make DarkO an obvious choice to lynch today. That would buy them another day of safety, allowing them to kill another one of us, making it that much harder for us to get the votes to lynch one of them.

Once again, this is wild speculation on my part. If we decide to lynch DarkO today and that allows the survivors to better investigate other suspects, then so be it. Before we do so, I do think we should take some time to question everyone on their voting to this point. That way in tomorrow's light, anyone who the Emperor blesses to survive the night will have more information to root out evil.

Gornall, your observations of my voting patterns is incorrect. I was the second person to vote for Lord of Ghosts, after the Gwar! noticed him equating the Emperor to the Hive Fleet. And I was the first to vote against Airman, when I could have added my vote to the votes against Drk_Obliter8r. I did change my vote on the first day from LoG to Drk_oblit, and then back to the LoG. Perhaps that is what confused you. Both those votes, regrettably, were wrong.

I am hoping that this one is not. Drk_Oblit was very much opposed by Manchu. Manchu is dead, thankfully as it turns out, but it still points the finger to Drk_Oblit.

Vote: Drk_Oblit

Valhallan42nd wrote:

Gornall wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

Like I mentioned earlier, I am concerned that Lord Loss and Valhallan seem to share similar voting patterns. Also, Ultrafool seems to only jump in when the vote is pretty much decided. Valhallan also seems to wait until towards the end. Lord-Loss is almost always the first to offer a canidate for lynching. Further, all three are quick to jump on whichever person is closest to being lynched. My suspicion seems to lie with Lord-Loss the most. However, Ultrafool and Gwar! are so quiet that I am unable to figure out their motives, making them worthy of consideration too.

I am still against lynching DarkO for guilt reasons, as I think Manchu was trying to get him lynched because he was probably not a genestealer. The genestealers and Manchu share a common goal of killing all of us, so I think it is unlikely that he would want to kill someone with a common goal. Rather, he tries to get to us lynch DarkO while he personally kills Stubby, eliminating two innocents. I think the genestealers were probably just as suprised as we were that Manchu was a heretic. I assume (possibly incorrectly) that they chose him to make DarkO an obvious choice to lynch today. That would buy them another day of safety, allowing them to kill another one of us, making it that much harder for us to get the votes to lynch one of them.

Once again, this is wild speculation on my part. If we decide to lynch DarkO today and that allows the survivors to better investigate other suspects, then so be it. Before we do so, I do think we should take some time to question everyone on their voting to this point. That way in tomorrow's light, anyone who the Emperor blesses to survive the night will have more information to root out evil.

Gornall, your observations of my voting patterns is incorrect. I was the second person to vote for Lord of Ghosts, after the Gwar! noticed him equating the Emperor to the Hive Fleet. And I was the first to vote against Airman, when I could have added my vote to the votes against Drk_Obliter8r. I did change my vote on the first day from LoG to Drk_oblit, and then back to the LoG. Perhaps that is what confused you. Both those votes, regrettably, were wrong.

I am hoping that this one is not. Drk_Oblit was very much opposed by Manchu. Manchu is dead, thankfully as it turns out, but it still points the finger to Drk_Oblit.

Vote: Drk_Oblit

Vallhallan42, What would I hope to gain from killing Manchu? Like you said Manchu was very much against me, but if I was a Genestealer, that would be a good reason NOT to kill Manchu, because I'd go from 90% suspicous to 100% suspicious. I'd go after Gornall for example, because he's NOT after me.

Valhallan42nd wrote:Gornall, your observations of my voting patterns is incorrect. I was the second person to vote for Lord of Ghosts, after the Gwar! noticed him equating the Emperor to the Hive Fleet. And I was the first to vote against Airman, when I could have added my vote to the votes against Drk_Obliter8r. I did change my vote on the first day from LoG to Drk_oblit, and then back to the LoG. Perhaps that is what confused you. Both those votes, regrettably, were wrong.[/b]

Those first few days were certainally confusing. Therefore, I will have to double-check my notes, but in the mean time, I'm almost certain that Lord-Loss has generally followed your lead. Whether that is him jumping on band-wagons or following an insidious master, I do not know.

Ye Eighth Vote Accounting
---------------------------------------
0 - Vote BrotherStynier
1 - Vote Frenzied Potato (Lord-Loss)
0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
3 - Vote Drk_Oblitr8r (Dark Lord Seanron, Gwar!, Valhallan42nd)
1 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron (Drk_Oblitr8r)
0 - Vote Gwar!
0 - Vote Demogerg
1 - Vote Lord-Loss (Gornall)
0 - Vote Gornall
0 - Vote Ultrafool

0 - Vote No Lynch

4 - Not Voting (Demogerg, Frenzied Potato, BrotherStynier, Ultrafool)

With 10 alive it requires 6 to Lynch
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Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Ultrafool wrote:It does make sense why he would want Manchu dead.
I will take this under deep consideration until someone else cracks even more then he did.

Exactly, reguardless of what Manchu thought of me, I had the respect for him to not want him to die. However, that was our main problem.

That is why I shall VOTE: Dark Lord Seanron. I'm voting for him because I don't believe him to be a traitor/xenos.

Vote: Drk_Oblitr8r

Lord-Loss wrote:Poor old Stumpy, he never stood a chance.

Im seriously confused and I have a new strategy for voting.

Suspect those who you never suspected before.

There was something going on with Frienzed Potatao and Manchu, Manchu seemed to be closing in on him.

So I vote : Frienzed Potatoa

So you believe that since the traitor and I were at each other you favor the dead traitor and not the man who was the only person who voted him. Genesteeler / Traitor all the same. He would of killed us all. I will be watching you. I think there was truth in the direction Mekboy was going. I will see it to the end.

I have voted only one time. Counting this is my second. I wanted to be as sure as possible. As time begins to dwindle I am seeing desperation on those who didnt show signs earlier.

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Valhallan42nd wrote:

Gornall wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[agreement] You are correct as well Subject Gornall. Perhaps my quick logic is harming the collective...

[query] To whom do you think we should be looking?

Like I mentioned earlier, I am concerned that Lord Loss and Valhallan seem to share similar voting patterns. Also, Ultrafool seems to only jump in when the vote is pretty much decided. Valhallan also seems to wait until towards the end. Lord-Loss is almost always the first to offer a canidate for lynching. Further, all three are quick to jump on whichever person is closest to being lynched. My suspicion seems to lie with Lord-Loss the most. However, Ultrafool and Gwar! are so quiet that I am unable to figure out their motives, making them worthy of consideration too.

I am still against lynching DarkO for guilt reasons, as I think Manchu was trying to get him lynched because he was probably not a genestealer. The genestealers and Manchu share a common goal of killing all of us, so I think it is unlikely that he would want to kill someone with a common goal. Rather, he tries to get to us lynch DarkO while he personally kills Stubby, eliminating two innocents. I think the genestealers were probably just as suprised as we were that Manchu was a heretic. I assume (possibly incorrectly) that they chose him to make DarkO an obvious choice to lynch today. That would buy them another day of safety, allowing them to kill another one of us, making it that much harder for us to get the votes to lynch one of them.

Once again, this is wild speculation on my part. If we decide to lynch DarkO today and that allows the survivors to better investigate other suspects, then so be it. Before we do so, I do think we should take some time to question everyone on their voting to this point. That way in tomorrow's light, anyone who the Emperor blesses to survive the night will have more information to root out evil.

Gornall, your observations of my voting patterns is incorrect. I was the second person to vote for Lord of Ghosts, after the Gwar! noticed him equating the Emperor to the Hive Fleet. And I was the first to vote against Airman, when I could have added my vote to the votes against Drk_Obliter8r. I did change my vote on the first day from LoG to Drk_oblit, and then back to the LoG. Perhaps that is what confused you. Both those votes, regrettably, were wrong.

I am hoping that this one is not. Drk_Oblit was very much opposed by Manchu. Manchu is dead, thankfully as it turns out, but it still points the finger to Drk_Oblit.

Vote: Drk_Oblit

Vallhallan42, What would I hope to gain from killing Manchu? Like you said Manchu was very much against me, but if I was a Genestealer, that would be a good reason NOT to kill Manchu, because I'd go from 90% suspicous to 100% suspicious. I'd go after Gornall for example, because he's NOT after me.

Good point Gornell is not after you while everyone is...

OOC: Make sure to put an unvote: lord-loss in there, as thor665 has you down for lord loss.

EDIT: Sorry, Lord Loss is voting for you. Read that wrong, my bad. It's late, and I'm off to bed!

Frenzied Potato wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

Ultrafool wrote:It does make sense why he would want Manchu dead.
I will take this under deep consideration until someone else cracks even more then he did.

Exactly, reguardless of what Manchu thought of me, I had the respect for him to not want him to die. However, that was our main problem.

That is why I shall VOTE: Dark Lord Seanron. I'm voting for him because I don't believe him to be a traitor/xenos.

Vote: Drk_Oblitr8r

Frenzied Potato, I'm going off our past experiences for voting for people we think might actually be a traitor. It's caused 4 innocent people to die. How many of us are actually left?

Unvote: Frienzed Pototoa

I was tired and troubled by the loss of Stumpy, I aplogise.

Now, I have a theory about Gornal!

He obviously hates DLS, so when DLS didnt turn up dead, we didnt suspect him. But if DLS did turn up dead, then we would have all be suspicous, my friends you must agree that this is strange.

Lord-Loss wrote:Now, I have a theory about Gornal!

He obviously hates DLS, so when DLS didnt turn up dead, we didnt suspect him. But if DLS did turn up dead, then we would have all be suspicous, my friends you must agree that this is strange.

[query] Even I myself fail to see how this is relevant...In my eyes Gornall is the least likely to be the Xenos, even though his opinion of me is extremely low.

[secondary query] The fact that I didn't turn up dead could also suggest that I'm not the biggest threat to the Xenos yet.

[conclusion] you can't seriously suspect Gornall using that logic

Think about it, he hates you, so if you turn up dead, they would suspect him. But your not dead, so people dont suspect him.

[clarification] that could also be said of Dark_oblitr8r...or even myself. Speculative logic is dangerous Lord_Loss, be very careful.

Lord-Loss is doing to much finger pointing, and as DLS mentioned, speculative logic.

I agree with Gornalls' logic.

The Genestealers could have killed manchu to drive the vote towards Dark Oblit, I shall not fall prey to this trickery.

vote: Lord-Loss

Well I believe Gornal to be a genestealer.

Vote:Gornal

Demogerg wrote:Lord-Loss is doing to much finger pointing, and as DLS mentioned, speculative logic.

I agree with Gornalls' logic.

The Genestealers could have killed manchu to drive the vote towards Dark Oblit, I shall not fall prey to this trickery.

vote: Lord-Loss

I agree. I think his actions cement my suspicion of him. As soon as he was threatened he started grasping at straws to implicate me.

Further, If DarkO was truly the mastermind he would have to be to have kept track of all the votes, I doubt he would have been so obvious as to kill Manchu and damn himself in all of our eyes. He would have been better to kill someone random.

[concur] I do believe that a solid case has been made... in his attempt to turn myself against Gornall, I think Loss has made a grave error.

unvote: Dark_Oblitr8r

Vote: Lord_Loss

Today's vote must be sure. If we vote wrong, we will lose two innocents, leaving only six of us versus the two xenos.

If I die and you find I am a inocent, then you will know who to lynch, you will know I was correct!

It seems very much in the mentality of "claming innocents only proves guilt" but as Gornall mentioned, Lord-Loss is attempting to suede the vote to Gornall now, knowing that if LL kills G in his sleep that everyone will know who the culprit is, where as if he gets us to lynch, then he will not have any problems in killing someone who has been targeted by someone else.

Frenzied... how does Lord-Loss fit into your theory of Mekboy's death?

Have we come up with any theories as to why Manchu killed Stumpy?

Are we missing any suspects? Who seems to be voting in tandem? Who tries to drum up support to lynch quickly? Who piles on at the end of votes or goes wherever the vote is highest?

These are the questions we should be asking ourselves.

Lord-Loss, one thing that causes me to scratch my head and think you are suspicious is your vote for Frenzied... why did you vote for him? And why do you believe me to be the traitor now?

Valhallan, my concern with you was your constant changing of votes. It appears to be dog-piling in my eyes. However, it could simply be indecisiveness.

Gwar! and Ultrafool, I would love to hear more from you both. You have been very quiet, but I think your inputs and reasoning would be valuable.

Tin-can and Demogerg, I am glad to have your support in voting for Lord-Loss, but do you have anything else to add as to why you changed your vote? Especially you, Blinky... for someone who thinks I'm a simpleton, you must have some theories of your own... I doubt you would just follow my logic.

Also, who all hasn't voted for DarkO at all besides myself? If he is actually a xenos (which I still doubt), who are his likely cohorts?

EDIT: Spelling/Grammar and added "And why do you believe me to be the traitor now?"

::Continues to pontificate::

One final thing that I think bears consideration is the people who have consistently voted for the wrong people. I know I am forced to include myself in that tally. However, DLS, Demogerg, DarkO, Valhallan, and Lord-Loss also join me in this dubious group. These people either all have flawed judgement or are intentionally lynching innocents.

I have been suspicious of Lord-Loss from the start, and his vote changes the most frequnetly.

Remember what I had said yesterday about the genestealer opinions about people changing on a whim. For this reason I feel that Lord-Loss is the most suspicious, Manchu was NOT directing attacks at Lord-Loss and for that it makes Manchu a perfect target for murder, to try and push our votes elsewhere. I will go through an post my full opinions about everyone again, to keep up with my theory that the more we know about everyones opinions the better off we are.

0 - Vote BrotherStynier
Nothing particularly suspicious at this time

1 - Vote Frenzied Potato (Lord-Loss)
Nothing particularly suspicious at this time

0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
Seems to be a swing voter, something that is definately not helpful, it is in the best interest of us all to draw these days out as long as possible to root out the Genestealers.

3 - Vote Drk_Oblitr8r (Dark Lord Seanron, Gwar!, Valhallan42nd)
Very suspicious, although he has the greatest motive for killing Manchu, it was a little too obvious of a choice for murder, so anyone could have realistically done it, to pin blame on him.

1 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron (Drk_Oblitr8r)
It is still odd dealing with this one, I do not trust his word, but I am keeping my eye on him.

0 - Vote Gwar!
suspicious, he has said very little, which gives us very little information to work off of. could be part of the sly cunning of the Xenos. He also appears to be a swing voter, going with the masses eagerly to lynch as soon as the opprotunity presents itself.

0 - Vote Demogerg
Is not a Genestealer

1 - Vote Lord-Loss (Gornall)
Suspect. Has flipped his vote many times, and regularly attempts to incite confusion in our masses.

0 - Vote Gornall
Nothing particularly suspicious, has provided valuable questions which have been dodged by many of the associated parties.

0 - Vote Ultrafool
Nothing particularly suspicious, which in itself IS suspicious, he has said very little, which gives us very little information to work off of. could be part of the sly cunning of the Xenos.

Gornall wrote:::Continues to pontificate::

One final thing that I think bears consideration is the people who have consistently voted for the wrong people. I know I am forced to include myself in that tally. However, DLS, Demogerg, DarkO, Valhallan, and Lord-Loss also join me in this dubious group. These people either all have flawed judgement or are intentionally lynching innocents.

Excuse me sir, I did not vote in the last round.

EDIT* in addition to not voting in the last round, the first day has very little chance of making a correct judgement of lynching with 15 players.

I don't find Gwar! to be that suspicious... he hasn't been a swing voter on any of the lynches. (I think... I'll have to check my notes). Same with Ultrafool. That doesn't mean they aren't just setting back and letting our suspicions do their work for them however.

[clarify] I have never been targetted for my vote, or been asked to sway it, however Lord_loss's sudden concern for my wellbeing against you seems too planned.

I still hold that there is something highly peculiar about Dark_Oblitr8r (indeed, I do not expect to lst the night)

However, Loss's actions seem an obvious ploy to draw me against you. I know both you and I have our differences, and that is between us and our cultures, but to try and draw on that to affect my vote seems highly suspicious.

I fully believe you are not the Xenos Gornall. I believe you are simply angry and lashing out at what's different. I will not have someone I logically know to be innocent used as a bartering chip or a threat is too insidious to ignore.

Gornall wrote:I don't find Gwar! to be that suspicious... he hasn't been a swing voter on any of the lynches. (I think... I'll have to check my notes). Same with Ultrafool. That doesn't mean they aren't just setting back and letting our suspicions do their work for them however.

As a genestealer becoming THE swing voter does them no good, but being a voter who is part of the opinion shift of the group does.

Demogerg wrote:

Gornall wrote:::Continues to pontificate::

One final thing that I think bears consideration is the people who have consistently voted for the wrong people. I know I am forced to include myself in that tally. However, DLS, Demogerg, DarkO, Valhallan, and Lord-Loss also join me in this dubious group. These people either all have flawed judgement or are intentionally lynching innocents.

Excuse me sir, I did not vote in the last round.

EDIT* in addition to not voting in the last round, the first day has very little chance of making a correct judgement of lynching with 15 players.

I was mistaken. I apologize. (OOC:: Oops! My bad!)

Yes the first day alone is not enough to make a judgement on... the trend, though I think helps to provide insight.

[finality] I suspect that Dark_OBlitr8r is a xenos (a deliberate 'fall guy' if you will).

However, we all know that he is not alone, and is working in cohesion with another. His voting pattern has been erratic at best and unthinkably diversive at worst.

It does appear that Lord_Loss is the most obvious culprit along with him. I suspect that this night whichever xenos is left will claim myself or Gornall...

Whether the xenos is Lord_Loss, or maybe even the scatterbrained Valhallan, I cannot be sure. I applaud the strong case drawn against Lord-Loss, and have changed my vote accordingly.

My death is unimportant...so long as I take at least one of the filthy xenos with me...

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[finality] I suspect that Dark_OBlitr8r is a xenos (a deliberate 'fall guy' if you will).

While I do not share your assumption of his guilt, if it turns out we are wrong today and I manage to survive the night, I will admit that he has possibly duped me and I will cast my vote against DarkO tomorrow. Some might think this strange to say, but I do think that we spend too much time focusing on him, so even if he is innocent, if his death allows us to focus on greater threats, then so be it...

Frienzed Pototaos summaries make sense. But Gornals only seem to confuse and cast suspicon were there was no suspicon.

His hate for DLS is a cleaver tactic to make the masses see him as a inocent. Sadly it has worked.

[clarify] His dislike of me has not affected his votes or the outcome of this investigation at all. He has never voted for myself, regardless of his views on my faith. Your point is moot.

Actually... I did vote for you on the first day... you had driven me to the point of exasperation and I was ready to throw you down the garbage chute.

Lord-Loss... If you want to clear your name, give your justification for your vote switching. Trying to cast doubt on me is not the way to prove yourself innocent, especially in my eyes.

EDIT:: I fail at grammar.

OOC: oops!

Gornall wrote:Actually... I did vote for you on the first day... you had driven me to the point of exasperation and I was ready to throw you down the garbage chute.

{ERROR} you are correct, however it was a quickly changed vote out of malice and not genuine suspision.

Lord-Loss wrote:Frienzed Pototaos summaries make sense. But Gornals only seem to confuse and cast suspicon were there was no suspicon.

If his summaries make sense, why did you vote for him THIS VERY DAY?!?! And I do not try to cast suspicion. I simply ask questions aloud that we should all be asking ourselves so we do not get led around by our noses by the xenos, like lambs to the slaughter. I just want people to think about why they are voting the way they are and more importantly try to determine why other people are voting in certain ways... is it in good faith or with a malicious purpose?

So far I've voted for:

Drk_Oblit
Lord Of Ghosts
Airman
Frienzed Pototao
Gornall

I unvoted Frienzed Potatoa and I no longer believe Drk_Oblit to be suspicous.

We've been through 23 pages and new evidence comes up fairly quickly. After LOG was killed, I started becoming suspicous of Airman, I then voted for him.
After three people died in one day/night, I had no suspicons and It seemed Manchu had been slowly closing in on Frienzed Potatoa. I unvoted him after reviewing my posts, looking through Gornalls posts it seemed that his 'summaries' seemed to cast suspicon.

Unvote:Gornall

I cant see to find a lead and we're all guessing here, I have some suspicons but not enough evidence to back them up.


I feel that some people aint posting enough, Gwar!, Ultrafool and Frienzed Potatao have all avoided suspicon through there lack of posting.

I am going to recount significant points on this journey up to this point. If anyone has any notion idea etc please say something. We need to work together to survive this one. Mind you this is only a part of the beginging it will take me some time to go through the rest. So don't feel threatened but also dont stay quite.

Drk_Oblit seems to make an amazing spring board to killing innocent people. I am going to take another look at possible patterns.

Gornell votes DarkLordSean -- reason was apparent character dislike
Gornell unvotes DarkLordSean -- reason is possible hasty decision

Brotherstynier insuinates against Manchu / Demogerg / Airman

Brotherstynier mentions orkeousaurus is smarter then he lets on

Airman / Orkeo go on the offensive questioning BrotherStynier

Drk_Oblitr8r begins his incomprehensible behavior more befitting a coward then a traitor or xenos

Brotherstynier hesitates with the option of going after "twitchy"

Valhallan says oblit is not the one we should fear

LoG jibberish mentinos of possible misloyalities and orkesaurus is against him

Orkesaurus votes LoG
Valhallan votes LoG
Drk Oblit votes LoG in a way that he can turn attention away from him (His reasoning is this "WAIT!!! Lord of Ghosts story seems too lazy IMO, either he's just lazy, or LoG is trying to make us think so. "

Brotherstynier again hesistates and says "Before we... execute him I purpose we continue our investigation into the others, perhaps he simply is ill like Manchu suggests. If that is the case we can always kill him when we are done."


Frenzied continues to recount the past days events speaking of any possible pattern or idea. Continuesly seeking any input or arguement because now four innocent have died and 2 more are about to occur if no real link is made.

<OOC>Have to head to work will post as I can asap. Making a note for myself here too. (Page 5). Yeah there is a possibility if people vote quickly this post may not finish.

My vote stands. If I live this night Brotherstynier will get my next vote.

<OOC> Just incase I dont get time to post even further. Btw loving this game. The only problem I have is I take physical que's from people and I cant get them here. So its hard to find a liar just in words. Great game though.

Why wait? Why not come for me out in the open right now? Afraid to show the others your claws? Don't forget you've proclaimed yourself an Inquisitorial Acolyte, something that could have been an attempt to lure out your 'master' when that failed you went for the obvious choice at the time, Manchu the Heretic. Now you go for Obltr8r with the vote, maybe thinking if the most rational was a heretic than perhaps the one who seems to have a few screws loose is the Inquisitor. Killing him in a vote would seem less obvious than killing him at night.

Gentlemen, please calm yourselves. We need to find the traitors, and we need to do it now. There must be some way of wrinkling this out, despite our lack of success so far.

We do believe we have a solid lead in drk_oblit, on this most of us can agree.

Valhallan42nd wrote:We do believe we have a solid lead in drk_oblit, on this most of us can agree.

I don't particularly agree. I think Lord-Loss's behavior when faced with scrutiny has been just as flaky as DarkO's. I'm paitently waiting for the rest of Frenzied's reasoning, as I think his detailed notes of who voted for who when will shed some light on this situation.

Remember, our only reasons for suspecting DarkO are his random behavior and backstory. I am MUCH more concerned about those who fit in well, but sentence people to death with their votes. Yes, Twitchy is annoying, but I don't think it will kill any of us. The xenos drumming up votes against us or attacking us in our sleep will.

EDIT:: More grammar fail.

Is there one person who as been a consistant final vote?

I have examined all the votes that involve the death of an innocent. Of the two votes cast, there are only four in common with both:

Lord-Loss, Drk_Oblitr8r, Gornall, and... myself.

I think you you look inside those common votes, you'll find the Genestealers. I realize that by pointing this out, I'm making myself vulnerable to finger pointing. But considering that lord-loss just tossed out a vote to Gornall, which he swiftly retracted, I think that bears further investigation.

Unless one of our genestealers doesn't vote with the others, which would still mean one of you is a genestealer as well.

There is that possibility. But considering that it took as long as it did to reach consensus (OOC:12 pages and 8 pages, respectively), and that not everyone was voting, I don't know that the genestealers had that luxury. The lack of votes may have forced their hands.

Valhallan42nd wrote:There is that possibility. But considering that it took as long as it did to reach consensus (OOC:12 pages and 8 pages, respectively), and that not everyone was voting, I don't know that the genestealers had that luxury. The lack of votes may have forced their hands.

This was my reason for witholding my vote on the 2nd day, to try and create a pattern of votes from the others to draw conclusions from to figure out who the stealers are.

Demogerg wrote:

Valhallan42nd wrote:There is that possibility. But considering that it took as long as it did to reach consensus (OOC:12 pages and 8 pages, respectively), and that not everyone was voting, I don't know that the genestealers had that luxury. The lack of votes may have forced their hands.

This was my reason for witholding my vote on the 2nd day, to try and create a pattern of votes from the others to draw conclusions from to figure out who the stealers are.

Good idea. I think we have have our suspects, then.

Valhallan42nd wrote:There is that possibility. But considering that it took as long as it did to reach consensus (OOC:12 pages and 8 pages, respectively), and that not everyone was voting, I don't know that the genestealers had that luxury. The lack of votes may have forced their hands.

The lack very well may have forced their hands, but still we should be wary and approach the situation as though only one of the 4 is one of the foul creatures.

Four? I would have hoped you'd say three, BrotherStynier. Of course, I know that you cannot remove me as a suspect.

Still I think a firm case could be made against any of the other three.

Valhallan42nd wrote:Gentlemen, please calm yourselves. We need to find the traitors, and we need to do it now. There must be some way of wrinkling this out, despite our lack of success so far.

We do believe we have a solid lead in drk_oblit, on this most of us can agree.

I disagree.

I like your logic Valhallan, even if it does implicate myself also. I do agree that while it is possible for the lack of votes to have forced the genestealer's hands (or claws), Stynier is right in pointing out that it may not be a valid assumption to think that they always voted together. They may have even been so smart as to have one of their filth vote for an innocent one day and the other one vote the next.

As for myself, I know I have made grave errors in voting. However, I have been transparent in my decisions and consistent in my reasoning. That's all I can offer in my defense.

My vote for Lord-Loss still stands for now. If we look to be at impass for the day, I will change my vote as needed to avoid inaction, but I still think in my gut that Lord-Loss is the right vote.

So, we got four suspects (That we can all agree on)


Handsome, charming and amazing Lord-Loss (Me), Gornall, Valhallan and Drk_Oblit.

Well since many people want my input on this situation I will give it to them.

Gronall: I have slight suspicions about you, you dislike
DLS and it seems to me it is a little trick that you are pulling to distract us.

Lord-Loss: high suspicions, you changing your votes constantly makes me think that you are masking yourself from what you really are.

DLS: slight

Drk_obilit8r: moderate to slight suspicions, many people are gunning for you, but something in my gut tells me you are not the culprit.

Demogerg, Valhallan42nd, Styneir : none to slight, I have nothing to hold up against you.

Gwar: moderate, seems to trusting, agree with everyone, votes to quickly.

Potato: Slight to moderate, hardly says anything, can't get any info from him.

I am comfortable voting for at least two of the four, though I still feel like I was fooled the last day by Drk_oblit.

I have no problem voting for Lord-Loss and to a lesser extent DarkO (even though he would have to have fooled me good). I know myself to be loyal and I am undecided on Valhallan.

OOC:: Valhallan... your German proverb doesn't happen to say "Payback is a female dog" does it?

I am still interested to hear the rest of Frenzied's summaries/notes. Hopefully they will help break the deadlock.

OOC: "Delight in the suffering of others is the best delight". Essentially, when we see others that we think deserve suffering suffer, we delight in it. Think Paris Hilton going to jail.

Frenzied Potato wrote:I am going to recount significant points on this journey up to this point. If anyone has any notion idea etc please say something. We need to work together to survive this one. Mind you this is only a part of the beginging it will take me some time to go through the rest. So don't feel threatened but also dont stay quite.

Drk_Oblit seems to make an amazing spring board to killing innocent people. I am going to take another look at possible patterns.

Gornell votes DarkLordSean -- reason was apparent character dislike
Gornell unvotes DarkLordSean -- reason is possible hasty decision

Brotherstynier insuinates against Manchu / Demogerg / Airman

Brotherstynier mentions orkeousaurus is smarter then he lets on

Airman / Orkeo go on the offensive questioning BrotherStynier

Drk_Oblitr8r begins his incomprehensible behavior more befitting a coward then a traitor or xenos

Brotherstynier hesitates with the option of going after "twitchy"

Valhallan says oblit is not the one we should fear

LoG jibberish mentinos of possible misloyalities and orkesaurus is against him

Orkesaurus votes LoG
Valhallan votes LoG
Drk Oblit votes LoG in a way that he can turn attention away from him (His reasoning is this "WAIT!!! Lord of Ghosts story seems too lazy IMO, either he's just lazy, or LoG is trying to make us think so. "

Brotherstynier again hesistates and says "Before we... execute him I purpose we continue our investigation into the others, perhaps he simply is ill like Manchu suggests. If that is the case we can always kill him when we are done."


Frenzied continues to recount the past days events speaking of any possible pattern or idea. Continuesly seeking any input or arguement because now four innocent have died and 2 more are about to occur if no real link is made.[/i

Continuing on with the notes...

Valhallan states DrkOblit is not the one to fear

Valhallan Votes Lord of Ghosts due to his hive fleet comment

Gornell states that both LoG and DrkOblit could be heretic scum
Brother stynier says yet again you can kill LoG at their leasure
Mekboy has suspicions of Airman (Dead innocent) and LoG (Dead innocent)
Dark Lord Sean has suspicions of DrkOblit

LordLoss Votes LoG

Dark Lord Sean Votes DrkOblit more so then LoG

Mekboy Votes DrkOblit

Lordloss Unvotes Log and Votes DrkOblit

Airman Votes DrkOblit

Brotherstynier Votes Airman by reason of over accusing of DrkOblit

Airman unvotes Drkoblit and Votes BrotherStynier

Airman Unvotes brotherstyier due to a comment about retaliation voting

Gwar votes DrkOblit

Orkesaurus does the LoG rally to death at this point...Gonna copy paste my mekboy notes to fill in this gap...


[i]My Theory / Notes / Timeline of Mekboy:

- Mekboy first doubted Airman who went out of his way to dispose the body for it scared Dark Oblit
- He voted Dark Oblit
- Airman and Gwar agree with Mekboy's Reason of voting Oblit and Airman Votes Dark Oblit
- Mekboy suggest Gornell and Brother Styner may be trying to save their fellow Genesteeler
- Airman changes his vote from Dark Oblit to Brother Styner
- Mekboy further insinuates that Brother Styner may be a genesteeler
- Airman Unvotes after be called out on a hasty vote immiediatly agreeing with Lord Loss (interesting)
- Orkeosaurus attempts a rally against the LotG
- Brother Styner unvotes Airman (maybe the genesteelers voted eachother as a show, since they both unvoted eachother)
- Orkeosarus continues the warcry against LotG

Quoting Lord Loss "LOG is becoming increasing suspicous, the way he talks....planets destroyed by indiviuals, mutations, sacrificed to the Emperor.


He's a psykers! "

- Mekboy votes Lord of Ghosts
- Mekboy unvotes Lord of GHosts and re votes Dark Oblit
- Mekboy is dead

Mind you these are my notes on Mekboy I will not divulge my other notes till I am sure.

Here is what I believed to be Mekboy's Theory (Not Mine):

Mekboy successfully identified three very good canidates of genesteelers.

- Lord - Loss called out to kill the Psyker not once did the possibility of an Imperial Psyker come into play.

- I claim to be an Inquisitor Acolyte
- Orkeosaurus first to respond
- Manchu responds
- Brother Stynier responds


DrkOblits death has the possiblity of a direct link to Brotherstynier. If indeed DrkOblit is a xenos as we all suspect his death would directly implicate Brotherstyniers lack of resolve towards DrkOblit.

My master as many of you seem directly worried about would not be the enemy now would he? Those who fear the Grand Inquisitor are the heretics themselves. You should rejoice in the fact that it is a possibilty. I can say for certain I am an a apprentice and I have not seen my master. I expect someone of his stature to be at Terra. If he was here this issue would of been resolved. I fail...but I will not give up for their is still innocent life to save.

Gornell there is a link to you as well but it is not as substantial as I currently believe it to be. Gwar you have been way too damn quite. What are you plotting? Simple pilgrim eh?

Unfortunately alot of my notes are not helpful. Just a few choice tidbits that I believe put some people in higher suspicion then others.

My vote stands against DrkOblit.

<OOC> Page 13. Sorry for wall text.

So, what is the current vote count?

I think it's going to be time for people to take sides... is DarkO the culprit, is Lord-Loss guilty, or is it another person entirely? I do agree that our focus is best placed on the four of us (I'm including myself) that have voted for both innocent lynches.

Valhallan42nd wrote:So, what is the current vote count?

I think:
4 for DarkO (Gwar!, Frenzied, Vahallan, and Lord-Loss)
3 for Lord-Loss (Gornall, DLS, and Demogerg)

Stynier and Ultrafool, where do you weigh in on this?

I think we are going to have split votes again.

I think split votes will do us good... it will truly solidify people's reasons for voting.

I think by the time this is over, everyone will have blood on their hands. Hopefully, this time it will the blood of the xenos.

Split votes good? Every time we had a split vote some one innocent died.

Day1: LoG and Drk_obliti8r, LoG a inquisitor dead.

Day2: Airman and Drk_obliti8r, Airman a innocent dead.

And now its now Lord-loss and Drk_obliti8r.

Their sacrifices haven't been in vain. Each vote brings us closer to figuring out who the xenos are. I think it would be wishful thinking to have determined the culprit randomly on the first day. Our main clues to this mystery are the patterns of voting... and without votes, we cannot have patterns.

I hate to agree with Gornall, but he's right. Their sacrifices will mark them as martyrs to the Imperium, their names will be recorded in the Tome of Heroes. They will be the markers toward our uncovering the heretics that reside on this ship.

Ye Ninth Vote Accounting
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0 - Vote BrotherStynier
0 - Vote Frenzied Potato
0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
3 - Vote Drk_Oblitr8r (Gwar!, Valhallan42nd, Frenzied Potato)
1 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron (Drk_Oblitr8r)
0 - Vote Gwar!
0 - Vote Demogerg
3 - Vote Lord-Loss (Gornall, Demogerg, Dark Lord Seanron)
0 - Vote Gornall
0 - Vote Ultrafool

0 - Vote No Lynch

3 - Not Voting (BrotherStynier, Ultrafool, Lord-Loss)

With 10 alive it requires 6 to Lynch
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Gornall wrote:

Valhallan42nd wrote:So, what is the current vote count?

I think:
4 for DarkO (Gwar!, Frenzied, Valhallan, and Lord-Loss)
3 for Lord-Loss (Gornall, DLS, and Demogerg)

Stynier and Ultrafool, where do you weigh in on this?

I say we kill DarkO, if he is indeed one of the xenos than his death will only serve to clear my name, if he wasn't a xenos than my suspicions will be leveled at Frenzied Potato, and either Vahallan or Lord-Loss. Though I doubt I'll survive the night if Frenzied and/or one of those listed is the culprit, and should that happen I pray that the God-Emperor allow you to see the guilty parties.

VOTE: Dark Oblitr8r

[agreement] indeed. I have already thrown my survival this eve into the realms of unlikliehood, but I do suspect Oblitr8r to be one of the xenos. Therefore, I will rearrange the vote accordingly.

unvote : Lord-Loss

vote: Dark_Oblitr8r

[personal note] Subject Gornall, if I do not survive the night then your suspicions of Lord_Loss are correct. Purge him with all the wrath the faithful.

DLS thats unfair, cause now the xenos could kill you and get another inocent(me) lynched.

If I was a xenos (Which Im not) why would I kill you?

[clarification] to remove myself. I do believe with all sincerity that thet Oblitr8r is the Xenos (OOC: and now we have enough votes for a lynch), all I am saying is that if myself or Gornall are taken out next it will not look good for you...unless of course you are innocent.

[query] who do you think we should be looking at then?

[point] Life is deeply unfair, Lord_Loss. Many of us just wish to get to Terra unscathed, but tha great mechanics of time have thrown us into this 'unfair' situation.

Should I vote for Drk-Oblit, or not?

Well I was suspicous of him at first and he seemed to have avoided being lynched, when he should have been.

May The Emperor Watch Over Me

Vote: Drk_Oblit

BrotherStynier wrote:
I say we kill DarkO, if he is indeed one of the xenos than his death will only serve to clear my name

I think Frenzied's ploy worked... accuse you of being in league with DarkO so you would vote for DarkO.

Lord Loss is definately a worthy suspect still. And frankly I think Tin-Can can't be taken for granted... he switched votes to make sure someone got lynched. If I am wrong about DarkO I will eat these words, but I expect that he will be shown to be innocent and we must look to those who voted for him as the suspects. If he is, in fact, guilty I know I will be next on the block and that would be a worthy punishment of how misguided I have been through these events.

[correction] I am not making sure 'someone' gets lynched, I am ensuring Oblitr8r (whom I have suspected this whole ordeal) gets lynched.

Mince words all you want Blinky... I still think you've made a terrible mistake. (OOC:: DarkO is already dead and doesn't know it) I just hope that I'm around to see you learn from it.

EDIT::Grammar epic fail.

Ye Tenth Vote Accounting
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0 - Vote BrotherStynier
0 - Vote Frenzied Potato
0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
6 - Vote Drk_Oblitr8r (Gwar!, Valhallan42nd, Frenzied Potato, BrotherStynier, Dark Lord Seanron, Lord-Loss)
1 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron (Drk_Oblitr8r)
0 - Vote Gwar!
0 - Vote Demogerg
2 - Vote Lord-Loss (Gornall, Demogerg)
0 - Vote Gornall
0 - Vote Ultrafool

0 - Vote No Lynch

1 - Not Voting (Ultrafool)

With 10 alive it requires 6 to Lynch
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Day Phase 3 is Over
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With Dark Lord Seanron and Lord-Loss tossing in the final votes Drk_Oblitr8r's fate is sealed. Some of the others voice concerns as to the veracity of this decision, but the mob will always have its way. In moments the deed is done and the body is investigated.

You find in his pockets only the popular rap CD of R. Diggidy Dorn Don' Play Dat and a handwritten list of why purging heretics is fun.

Drk_Oblitr8r was an Imperial Citizen!

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Night Phase 3 has now begun, you all know the drill by now.
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Night has ended!
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You arise uneasily, your evening's "rest" having been made uneasy enough by the tribulations of the Warp upon your dreams, much less the presence of the foul and cunning xenos who continue to whittle away at your numbers. You plod resignedly into the main holds of the ship and are unsurprised to find that once more someone has failed to appear. Gornall is missing.

In his room you find much blood and enough pieces that you're fairly sure you can identify the remains as his. You find by his nightstand his reading material of choice - Seven Habits of Highly Effective Purgings.

Gornall was an Imperial Citizen!

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Day 4 has Begun, 3 week timer has begun
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With 8 alive it will take 5 to lynch - you can only afford one more incorrect lynches or the Genestealers will win.

Thor665 wrote:
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Day Phase 3 is Over
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With Dark Lord Seanron and Lord-Loss tossing in the final votes Drk_Oblitr8r's fate is sealed. Some of the others voice concerns as to the veracity of this decision, but the mob will always have its way. In moments the deed is done and the body is investigated.

You find in his pockets only the popular rap CD of R. Diggidy Dorn Don' Play Dat and a handwritten list of why purging heretics is fun and a small report saying "Plahz whell eit overs".

Drk_Oblitr8r was an Imperial Citizen!

fixt.

feth.

I think we all need to start speaking, that included Gwar, Ultrafool!

Indeed! We have but one chance to get this right! (OOC: and I'm off to a Halloween party! I think we should hold off voting until at least tomorrow. Many of us will have similar things going on. What do you all think?)

This does not bode well I agree...

"Hmm I figure its about time to do this... There are two people in this room I know not to be Genestealers for a fact. Those people are Frenzied Potato and myself..." I reach into my coat pocket producing my Inquisitorial Rosarius and Writ, "I am the Inquisitor and last night in my investigations I discovered that the man I thought to be a xenos was in fact who he said he was."

BrotherStynier, who was that?

The person other than me that wasn't a xeno is Frenzied Potato.

Oooops, I missed that part lol.

Quite alright. (OOC- Im off for now, No voting Please!)

So Gwar!, who do you have suspicons of.

At this point I honestly have no Idea.

I was so sure about Drk_Oblitr8r...

I was sure too.

From now on were guessing, we just have to lynch someone and hope were lucky.

::Scrawled across the Gornall's room in his blood are the words "Orks are a Tier 3 army, Meltas are a Myth, and Lash is Trash"::

There are very few leads I have left but worth looking into. The link between Drk_Oblit and Brotherstynier died with Oblit.

Gwar / Ultrafool / Lord Loss

I pose a question to you three.

If there are three people how can you guarantee a secret be kept between the three?

<OOC> I will not vote in light of the holiday as well. The fact that my line of questioning got shot to hell has some part.

I dont understand the question, do you mean how can three people keep a secret.

It comes as no surprise to me that Dark Oblit was an Imperial Citizen, our initial judgments of him were simply a reflection of his "twitchy" attitude, and he skimmed death once, which either by luck or skill is irrelevant, his voting patterns had not lead him to be a target at all.

my main suspect is Lord-Loss. I have said this multiple times throughout this event, and I have not been killed, If I was killed it puts blame on his hands- something he wants to avoid-. in addition, he jumped on the bandwagon to lynch Dark Oblit hastily. He has also said multiple times that we are voting "randomly" when this is far from the case, and in fact it doesnt matter as much to the Xenos because they can push 2 votes in their favor.

DLS is also very suspect for Switching votes even though Logic and Facts point to Lord-Loss.


these are the suspects who caused this murder
Gwar!, Valhallan42nd, Frenzied Potato, BrotherStynier, Dark Lord Seanron, Lord-Loss

These are the people who voted for the most recent murder, and had votes in common with the other 2 innocent murders
Lord-Loss, Valhallan42nd

Vote: Lord-Loss


If either of these two turn up to be innocent, then we have xenos who voted (probly just once) outside of the group to throw of our scent.

Also, on the calamity that was the count-error in votes, VH42 voted for LOG first (whom he presumably knew to be innocent)
LL voted for DarkO first (whom he presumably knew to be innocent)
then VH42 took the queue from everyone, and hoped in to death a "deathblow" to DarkO, who survived through what we now KNOW to be sheer luck
Then Lord Loss AND VH42 both jumped over to lynch LOG.

I knew my gut was right about Drk_O not being the traitor. And Gornall is amongst the dead.

Frenzied potato, I think I have an answer for your question. In order to keep the secret you must kill two of the three. If I am correct then you are implying that two of the three you listed are the culprits.

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:fixt.

Do not think I will regret not having to try to type that name out again.

Demogerg wrote:It comes as no surprise to me that Dark Oblit was an Imperial Citizen, our initial judgments of him were simply a reflection of his "twitchy" attitude, and he skimmed death once, which either by luck or skill is irrelevant, his voting patterns had not lead him to be a target at all.

my main suspect is Lord-Loss. I have said this multiple times throughout this event, and I have not been killed, If I was killed it puts blame on his hands- something he wants to avoid-. in addition, he jumped on the bandwagon to lynch Dark Oblit hastily. He has also said multiple times that we are voting "randomly" when this is far from the case, and in fact it doesnt matter as much to the Xenos because they can push 2 votes in their favor.

DLS is also very suspect for Switching votes even though Logic and Facts point to Lord-Loss.


these are the suspects who caused this murder
Gwar!, Valhallan42nd, Frenzied Potato, BrotherStynier, Dark Lord Seanron, Lord-Loss

These are the people who voted for the most recent murder, and had votes in common with the other 2 innocent murders
Lord-Loss, Valhallan42nd

Vote: Lord-Loss


If either of these two turn up to be innocent, then we have xenos who voted (probly just once) outside of the group to throw of our scent.

Also, on the calamity that was the count-error in votes, VH42 voted for LOG first (whom he presumably knew to be innocent)
LL voted for DarkO first (whom he presumably knew to be innocent)
then VH42 took the queue from everyone, and hoped in to death a "deathblow" to DarkO, who survived through what we now KNOW to be sheer luck
Then Lord Loss AND VH42 both jumped over to lynch LOG.

I realy dont like the way you summarise thing, its like your trying to pin things on people with little or no evidence.

VOTE: Demogerg

Lord-Loss wrote: Words that should not be repeated, as they are the lies of the Xenos.

I find it amusing that you would simply claim that I have no evidence, when in fact I am the only one alive who is reviewing the only ACTUAL evidence we have, the votes.

sneaky of you two to kill off all of those who would use logic and reason, but you are still playing into the same game of vote switching and opinion changing that I know to expect from the Xenos, (OOC: as I mentioned back on one of the much earlier pages, the Xenos will change opinion the fastest, one of the reasons I kept it very particular what I thought about everyone.)

BrotherStynier wrote:"Hmm I figure its about time to do this... There are two people in this room I know not to be Genestealers for a fact. Those people are Frenzied Potato and myself..." I reach into my coat pocket producing my Inquisitorial Rosarius and Writ, "I am the Inquisitor and last night in my investigations I discovered that the man I thought to be a xenos was in fact who he said he was."

BrotherStynier, I want to beleive you, but surely you must have more information that this? All you know is that Frenzied Potato is innocent, after three nights of investigation?

You may claim any position you want, Sir. Any one of us could make a similar claim. Without proper access to the Terran interfaces, there is no way to prove your writ is anything but so many words. And those same interfaces are unavailable while we are encased in a Gellar Field, a fact that you surely must know. The fact that you voted for the deaths of both Airman and Drk_oblit, both innocent, and you did not know about the traitor Manchu leaves something to be said...

You must pardon my scepticism, BrotherStynier, but at this point, we cannot trust any such claims. We have only our gut feelings to follow.

Valhallan42nd wrote:

BrotherStynier, I want to beleive you, but surely you must have more information that this? All you know is that Frenzied Potato is innocent, after three nights of investigation?

You may claim any position you want, Sir. Any one of us could make a similar claim. Without proper access to the Terran interfaces, there is no way to prove your writ is anything but so many words. And those same interfaces are unavailable while we are encased in a Gellar Field, a fact that you surely must know. The fact that you voted for the deaths of both Airman and Drk_oblit, both innocent, and you did not know about the traitor Manchu leaves something to be said...

You must pardon my scepticism, BrotherStynier, but at this point, we cannot trust any such claims. We have only our gut feelings to follow.

Unless he was attempting to investigate those who were killed by the Xenos on the same night that he investigated them.

Terrible luck or cunning plan, Either way, I have shown who the evidence points to.

Ye Eleventh Vote Accounting
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0 - Vote BrotherStynier
0 - Vote Frenzied Potato
0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
0 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron
0 - Vote Gwar!
1 - Vote Demogerg (Lord-Loss)
1 - Vote Lord-Loss (Demogerg)
0 - Vote Ultrafool

0 - Vote No Lynch

1 - Not Voting (Ultrafool, Gwar!, Valhallan42nd, Frenzied Potato, BrotherStynier, Dark Lord Seanron)

With 8 alive it requires 5 to Lynch
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Demogerg wrote:

Valhallan42nd wrote:

BrotherStynier, I want to beleive you, but surely you must have more information that this? All you know is that Frenzied Potato is innocent, after three nights of investigation?

You may claim any position you want, Sir. Any one of us could make a similar claim. Without proper access to the Terran interfaces, there is no way to prove your writ is anything but so many words. And those same interfaces are unavailable while we are encased in a Gellar Field, a fact that you surely must know. The fact that you voted for the deaths of both Airman and Drk_oblit, both innocent, and you did not know about the traitor Manchu leaves something to be said...

You must pardon my scepticism, BrotherStynier, but at this point, we cannot trust any such claims. We have only our gut feelings to follow.

Unless he was attempting to investigate those who were killed by the Xenos on the same night that he investigated them.

Terrible luck or cunning plan, Either way, I have shown who the evidence points to.

Demogerg would be correct in his assumption, I had the terrible luck of investigating Mekboy and Manchu on the nights of their demise. Though I took this terrible luck and made a plan. In addition the fact that Manchu was stopped by the Genestealers on the night I investigated him turned out to be a blessing from the Emperor, had he have lived I would have had to revealed myself in order to stop him, and that would have lead to my demise last night. By the Emperor's graces that did not happen and I am here before you telling you that two of you are known loyal humans. Distrust that if you will.

Demogerg, the evidence you have presented is good, very good though I feel I need to think more on whats happened before a vote is cast. Lord-Lost is one of those on my list of suspects, but a wrong choice now would damn us and this ship.

Demogerg's evidence seems to implicate Lord-Loss.

Let us hope he is correct.

Vote: Lord-Loss

Valhallan42nd wrote:Demogerg's evidence seems to implicate Lord-Loss.

Let us hope he is correct.

Vote: Lord-Loss

You realise if Lord - Loss is killed and is indeed innocent you directly implicate yourself demogerg.

Voting for Lordloss for Valhallan either prove he is innocent or realises he has to sacrafice a fellow xeno to stay alive.

Ultrafool. You answered correctly. That is my current belief. If Lord loss is not one I believe gwar and you represent the xenos. If he is one it is either you or gwar. This is based on the voting pattern and inactiveness of gwar I believe. Honestly I think ultrafool you are not one.

Vote: Lord-Loss

You all realize that if we are wrong, and that if Lord Loss is not one of the creatures then they will kill one of us in the night and there will only be two humans to stand against the xenos. Those two would lose.

BrotherStynier wrote:You all realize that if we are wrong, and that if Lord Loss is not one of the creatures then they will kill one of us in the night and there will only be two humans to stand against the xenos. Those two would lose.

I realize my comment about a mis-lynch may have mislead you;

There are currently eight players alive. So you can afford one more mis-lynch - you cannot afford two missed lynches though, so if you're wrong this Day Phase you will lose the game if you're wrong in the next Day Phase.

Ye Eleventh Vote Accounting
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0 - Vote BrotherStynier
0 - Vote Frenzied Potato
0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
0 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron
0 - Vote Gwar!
1 - Vote Demogerg (Lord-Loss)
3 - Vote Lord-Loss (Demogerg, Valhallan42nd, Frenzied Potato)
0 - Vote Ultrafool

0 - Vote No Lynch

4 - Not Voting (Ultrafool, Gwar!, BrotherStynier, Dark Lord Seanron)

With 8 alive it requires 5 to Lynch
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OOC-Never mind

I will cast my vote for Lord-Loss, if we are wrong in this vote I fear that tonight they will come for me.

VOTE: Lord-Loss

If you are the Inquisitor BrotherStynier, I pray for your safety. With two of those... things running around, it is probably a forlorn hope. I am hoping your sacrafice is not in vain.

May the Emperor gather you unto Him.

[loading sub-routine 238890D] The Mechanicum recognies the Emperor's Most Holy Inquisition. I hope for all our sakes, Stynier, that you are who you say you are.

[query] we are all voting very quickly in the face of our failed logic? Are you all entirely sure about Lord_Loss. We can hardly afford another incorrect vote...

[secondary query] Loss, if you have a chance to defend yourself, now is the time. Otherwise, the votes may claim you...

Frenzied Potato wrote:

You realise if Lord - Loss is killed and is indeed innocent you directly implicate yourself demogerg.

I understand, but there are 2 ways to vote in this game, based on what everyone says, or based on what everyone does. Up until this point we have lynched only those based on what they have said. I propose we lynch those based on what they have done. I am not an Inquisitor, I am not a Xenos, but the evidence points to those 2.

Frenzied Potato wrote:

Voting for Lordloss for Valhallan either prove he is innocent or realises he has to sacrafice a fellow xeno to stay alive.

After pointing out his seemed guilt it comes to no suprise that he votes for Lord-Loss to save himself. Unless some other damning evidence presents itself, I will be voting for Valhallan tomorrow after we kill the Xenos Lord-Loss.

Frenzied Potato wrote:
Ultrafool. You answered correctly. That is my current belief. If Lord loss is not one I believe gwar and you represent the xenos. If he is one it is either you or gwar. This is based on the voting pattern and inactiveness of gwar I believe. Honestly I think ultrafool you are not one.

If you step out of the evidence presented in the voting patterns, then any one of us could easily be Xenos, but if you stay with the evidence it shows 2 people as guilty.

Demogerg is was too sure that Im a xenos. One this is suspecting someone, but he is sure I am a xenos (Which Im not)

If I am killed and its revealed that Im just a scared pilgrim -whose voting habits were suspicous- then you will know that Demogerg brought about my demise to doom this ship!

Lord-Loss wrote:Demogerg is was too sure that Im a xenos. One this is suspecting someone, but he is sure I am a xenos (Which Im not)

If I am killed and its revealed that Im just a scared pilgrim -whose voting habits were suspicous- then you will know that Demogerg brought about my demise to doom this ship!

Suspicious voting patterns? nay, your voting patterns are Damning

I am sure of the evidence, and the evidence points to you.

[query] subject Lord-Loss, you seem to be basing your innocence purely on the feelings of guilt and also the terrible things that will occur if you do indeed die.

I am curious as this is neither a logical nor entirely effective defence. You simply seem to say "don't do this, you'll regret it"

I do believe we are voting to quickly and out of panic, however, I cannot ignore your casual voting yesterday or your heated exchanges with the now dead Gornall. Although Gornall and myself certainly did not see eye-to-optic, I do believe we obtained an understanding, and also a view into your possible guilt. You also appear to be panicking at your sudden illumination to the attentions of the group. Several of us (inccluding myself) have been suspected, but made valid arguments and defences as to why we shouldn't be lynched. However your "don't do it or else" does not fill me with confidence...

[conclusion] Your erratic voting, coupled with what Gornall and myself spoke of yesterday, and compounded by your suspicion in the eyes of one of the Emperor's own Inquisition, I must concur with the majority to maintain not only my safety and the safety of the ship, but also the lasting safety of this collective.

Vote: Lord-Loss

[additional]Omnissiah preserve me if I am incorrect...

Im soon die to, but my death will serve a purpose. When it is discovered that I am an Imperial Citizen, then when you look to next accuse someone. Look to Demogerg!

(OCC: I had a defence ready -Written in word- but its too late now)

Ultrafool, Gwar what say you?

Ye Twelfth Vote Accounting
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0 - Vote BrotherStynier
0 - Vote Frenzied Potato
0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
0 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron
0 - Vote Gwar!
1 - Vote Demogerg (Lord-Loss)
5 - Vote Lord-Loss (Demogerg, Valhallan42nd, Frenzied Potato, BrotherStynier, Dark Lord Seanron)
0 - Vote Ultrafool

0 - Vote No Lynch

2 - Not Voting (Ultrafool, Gwar!)

With 8 alive it requires 5 to Lynch
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Day 4 Has Ended Lord-Loss is Lynched
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The mob assaults in a rush, catching Lord-Loss unprepared. He shouts out dark warnings and predicts doom for this error, but is eventually silenced by the sudden application of a length of heavy and crude metal to his head. In moments the deed is done and the mob pulls back to investigate its work.

In his pockets you discover that Lord-Loss carries a 'Get Sanguine with Sanguinus - a guide to inner peace' self help book.

Lord Loss was a regular Imperial Citizen!

You slowly ease back from the body as the darkness of night creeps over you, there are still two Genestealers out there...

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Night Phase 4 is here, 72 hour timer has started
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F**K

Damn.

OCC: sorry for being inactive for the voting, had to go to a party. I was going to vote lord loss but to late to post.

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Night 4 has Ended
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You break open your protein bars and munch on the tasteless brown mush within. In moments it becomes clear who has not shown up to the morning meal. You head to his room and find him laying amidst the shattered remains, his Khan Kan Dance aerobicize tape still running, blood spattered across the projection screen causing it to light the room in a horrible reddish glow. Demogerg has fallen.

Demogerg was an Imperial Citizen!

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Day 5 begins, three week countdown begins
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With only six people left alive - two of which are genestealers - you cannot afford an incorrect lynch today. If you lynch an innocent the town will lose and the Genestealers win. Your only hope is to lynch a Genestealer or not to lynch anyone. Genestealers...well, you know what you need to do.

No! Why Demogerg?!

I thought for sure they would take BrotherStynier.

Gornall wrote:

BrotherStynier wrote:
I say we kill DarkO, if he is indeed one of the xenos than his death will only serve to clear my name

I think Frenzied's ploy worked... accuse you of being in league with DarkO so you would vote for DarkO.

Lord Loss is definately a worthy suspect still. And frankly I think Tin-Can can't be taken for granted... he switched votes to make sure someone got lynched. If I am wrong about DarkO I will eat these words, but I expect that he will be shown to be innocent and we must look to those who voted for him as the suspects. If he is, in fact, guilty I know I will be next on the block and that would be a worthy punishment of how misguided I have been through these events.

Over looked this one and it cost him his life. Never noticed that a vote was switched to ensure the lynch.

Vote Dark Lord Seanron

Valhallan42nd wrote:No! Why Demogerg?!

I thought for sure they would take BrotherStynier.

Why is that?

He claimed to be an Inquisitor.

Even if he's not an Inquisitor, claiming that role puts a huge target on his back. If were one of those things, I would think they'd want to eliminate him on the off chance he wasn't lying.

Valhallan42nd wrote:No! Why Demogerg?!

I thought for sure they would take BrotherStynier.

They didn't take me because it would have been to obvious, would you really want to kill the person that makes it obvious he thinks he'll be the next to die? Its either that or they thought Demogerg was the real Inquisitor and I was just trying to buy him more time.

BrotherStynier wrote:

Valhallan42nd wrote:No! Why Demogerg?!

I thought for sure they would take BrotherStynier.

Its either that or they thought Demogerg was the real Inquisitor and I was just trying to buy him more time.

That's a bit convoluted. In the scenario you propose, that would mean you were an innocent trying to sacrafice himself for a person who you thought might be an Inquisitor (but who might be an imposter). It seems like a long shot.

So, we need to find the traitors among us.

Brotherstynier, again, assuming you aren't an imposter, what did you find out last night?

I was unfortunately unable to discover anything, it seems the have a Magus with them. A leader genestealer, they have the ability to prevent people's actions.

Frenzied Potato wrote:

Vote Dark Lord Seanron

Whoa, there. I just noticed this. Considering we only have one shot to do this right, is coming right out of the gate swinging the way to do this?

Thor665 wrote:---------------------
Night 4 has Ended
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You break open your protein bars and munch on the tasteless brown mush within. In moments it becomes clear who has not shown up to the morning meal. You head to his room and find him laying amidst the shattered remains, his Khan Kan Dance aerobicize tape still running, blood spattered across the projection screen causing it to light the room in a horrible reddish glow. Demogerg has fallen.

Demogerg was an Imperial Citizen!

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Day 5 begins, three week countdown begins
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With only six people left alive - two of which are genestealers - you cannot afford an incorrect lynch today. If you lynch an innocent the town will lose and the Genestealers win. Your only hope is to lynch a Genestealer or not to lynch anyone. Genestealers...well, you know what you need to do.

OOC: Thor, I'd assume it takes one more than majority to lynch, I.E. 4?

You are correct. With 6 alive it requires 4 to Lynch.

[query] and why exactly are you voting myself Frenzied_Potato? Indeed I switched a vote to Dark_OBlitr8r...however seeing as how I had consistently voted him beforehand my actions were fair and just at the time. I had suspected him from the start (something you casually ignore) and switched vote to finally purge who I had suspected the most.

[accusation] as for you Frenzied, there are very few of us left and these past days you always have some other random soul in your site. Maybe your picking your targets instantly because mistakes will prove more fatal in these closing days. Perhaps you are the xenos, and are attempting to soe panic amidst our dwindled numbers.

[concur] as Valhallan has pointed out, maybe we should investigate a bit more before casting our stones about.

Vote Dark Lord Seanron

The evidence is damning.

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[query] and why exactly are you voting myself Frenzied_Potato? Indeed I switched a vote to Dark_OBlitr8r...however seeing as how I had consistently voted him beforehand my actions were fair and just at the time. I had suspected him from the start (something you casually ignore) and switched vote to finally purge who I had suspected the most.

[accusation] as for you Frenzied, there are very few of us left and these past days you always have some other random soul in your site. Maybe your picking your targets instantly because mistakes will prove more fatal in these closing days. Perhaps you are the xenos, and are attempting to soe panic amidst our dwindled numbers.

[concur] as Valhallan has pointed out, maybe we should investigate a bit more before casting our stones about.

If I was close in any way shape or form I would of been killed but the evidence I have provided did nothing more but bolster the chances of the xenos. I have not found a single reason Gornell should of been killed short of his plan against you.

I have found damning evidence against most innocent people. This might be the case again. What other evidence is their really. Brother Stynier could of lied about being an inquisitor to gain a mark on himself using his own death to help the survivors.

Or he was lying because no one can no for sure about anyone else unless they are a xenos.

Gwar has been in the backround this whole time.

It is a dire situation we are in. But, if there is to be one more I am having a hell of a time seeing a better culprit.

<OOC> Unfortunate words but all one can go against since there is no way I can gain physical queue's to lying.

[query] again, to what evidence do you speak?

[conclusion] again, you all seem to be supporting the knee-jerk reaction of others as opposed to your own reasoning! I have done nothing suspect, at least nothing that you are all equally as guilty of as I.

[mournful] very well, if we are going to play this knee-jerk game of paranoid delusion:

vote: Frenzied_Potato

as to why Gwar is taking place in this debacle I am unclear. Either he is moronically mimicking Frenzied as he has no evidence himself...or they are in cohesion with one another. And lack of evidence?

Brother_Stynier has claimed to be an Inquisitor, but has named you Frenzied soley as a non-xenos. The rest of his investigations were strangely interupted?? It does not bode well. He could easily be a xenos and trying to cover his partner - yourself.

Gwar has said barely anything, and is equally guilty as myself for the death of Oblitr8r. He is known for his silence, before a quick shiv-vote at the end.

Valhallan has had some fairly disastorous opinions himself, and yet he has also evaded your attentions thus far?

And as I stated eralier (and several times) If I was the Xenos then why let Gornall (who has always been hostile to myself) live for so long? Gornall's death is tragic, but doubly so as it is framing myself...

What about your previous suspicions of Ultrafool and Gwar Frenzied? do you think to buy their alliance by voting for a more vocal member of the group? Perhaps you seek to whittle away the more independently-minded so that you and your other xenos ally may claim your prize?

[humour] I will be quitely chuckling in data-hell at your own self-destructive actions this day!

Frenzied Potato, I'm confused.

Your evidence against Dark Lord Seanron is a lack of evidence? And that he changed his vote to vote against someone he thought was a xenos?

Did you perhaps think that Gornall was killed because his death would implicate DLS?

[concur] the usually sycophantic Valhallan is correct on this occasion.

[query] Inquisitor - you have gone strangely quiet...what say you on this ridiculous turn of events.

[secondary point] I would also like to remind you all that this is our last chance at success. The xenos will want us to fail today, and will seek a lynch vote as quickly as possible. Please do not be sucked into a quick and erratic vote, for it will be our undoing!

The fact that Gwar voted quickly with me does scare me. The fact that valhallan usually agree's with you but didn't cast a vote against me is also odd. BrotherStynier clearing me as my master basically told everyone to kill him me or us.

Dark Lord Seanron am I your best choice? On my side the fact that someone wanted you next and died is very odd. If you call that no evidence then what do you call it? True possibly coincidence. Out of whats left all I can do is vote what I have anything against.

I have nothing on Gwar infact not many do. Is that enough?

So Dark Lord Seanron if your not one and I am not one who do we vote for?

BrotherStynier wrote:I was unfortunately unable to discover anything, it seems the have a Magus with them. A leader genestealer, they have the ability to prevent people's actions.

What action was prevented on your part?

Valhallan42nd wrote:Frenzied Potato, I'm confused.

Your evidence against Dark Lord Seanron is a lack of evidence? And that he changed his vote to vote against someone he thought was a xenos?

Did you perhaps think that Gornall was killed because his death would implicate DLS?

Yes. His last words were his plan and DLS was the next vote for him.

I don't know if BrotherStynier is the Inquisitor, but since no one else has come forth to claim that title gives me pause. The fact that he only has one name "cleared" is suspiciously convenient.

Again, Demogerg pointed fingers in both mine and Lord Loss's direction and then got the axe. Gornall pointed fingers in DLS's direction, and then he got axed. I think somone is trying to set people up who've been active voters. Gwar's quick vote after lurking for so long gives me pause. I find it highly suspicious.

I vote Gwar!

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[query] again, to what evidence do you speak?

[conclusion] again, you all seem to be supporting the knee-jerk reaction of others as opposed to your own reasoning! I have done nothing suspect, at least nothing that you are all equally as guilty of as I.

[mournful] very well, if we are going to play this knee-jerk game of paranoid delusion:

vote: Frenzied_Potato

as to why Gwar is taking place in this debacle I am unclear. Either he is moronically mimicking Frenzied as he has no evidence himself...or they are in cohesion with one another. And lack of evidence?

Brother_Stynier has claimed to be an Inquisitor, but has named you Frenzied soley as a non-xenos. The rest of his investigations were strangely interupted?? It does not bode well. He could easily be a xenos and trying to cover his partner - yourself.

Gwar has said barely anything, and is equally guilty as myself for the death of Oblitr8r. He is known for his silence, before a quick shiv-vote at the end.

Valhallan has had some fairly disastorous opinions himself, and yet he has also evaded your attentions thus far?

And as I stated eralier (and several times) If I was the Xenos then why let Gornall (who has always been hostile to myself) live for so long? Gornall's death is tragic, but doubly so as it is framing myself...

What about your previous suspicions of Ultrafool and Gwar Frenzied? do you think to buy their alliance by voting for a more vocal member of the group? Perhaps you seek to whittle away the more independently-minded so that you and your other xenos ally may claim your prize?

[humour] I will be quitely chuckling in data-hell at your own self-destructive actions this day!

Too many innocent have died we are all probably going to hell for this one. Someone who prides himself in logic why would you even bother with a knee jerk paranoid vote towards me then.

I agree with all your notes as well. I also remember what I said about Ultrafool and Gwar! I hold high suspicion towards both still. The only person who died with a person in his plan was indeed you. You also changed a vote to cause the lynch. What am I missing?

Having someone hate you around for as long as possible will always provide the cover of innocense. With no one against you it looks even worse...Ultrafool / Gwar / Valhallan.

So I ask again...who do we vote for?

Valhallan42nd wrote:I don't know if BrotherStynier is the Inquisitor, but since no one else has come forth to claim that title gives me pause. The fact that he only has one name "cleared" is suspiciously convenient.

Again, Demogerg pointed fingers in both mine and Lord Loss's direction and then got the axe. Gornall pointed fingers in DLS's direction, and then he got axed. I think somone is trying to set people up who've been active voters. Gwar's quick vote after lurking for so long gives me pause. I find it highly suspicious.

I vote Gwar!

Why do you not vote Lord Seanron? By the way you just made a hell of a connection to yourself and DLS.

Demogerg pointed fingers at you and Lord loss then died. Gornell pointed at DLS and died. Combine this with the fact that you two never seem to go after eachother and you didn't vote against him making it 3 to 1 just shy of the lynch...

Interesting.

[correction] Gornall never implicated me. He stated I would have to be watched, as we all should be. He did in fact advise me against voting incorrectly, strongly suggesting that he (quite correctly) saw me as innocent but misguided.

And I am vaguely insulted that you consider me so stupid. That I would kill someone right after they implicated me? That is too obvious a move. If I were the xenos then I would die of shame at such a ridiculous action rather then being lynched.

As stated before Frenzied, your addled and gunshot voting is suspect. Why rush this, our last chance to find the actual culprit as opposed to flailing blindly based on the deeply misunderstood words of a sadly dead man? If Gornall were still here, I think he would find your actions highly irregular.

My vote is mimicking your own. What choice do I have when faced with either a highly cunning xenos who has played us from the start, or a deeply frightened man flailing wildly for eveidence that does not exist.

Frenzied Potato wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[query] again, to what evidence do you speak?

[conclusion] again, you all seem to be supporting the knee-jerk reaction of others as opposed to your own reasoning! I have done nothing suspect, at least nothing that you are all equally as guilty of as I.

[mournful] very well, if we are going to play this knee-jerk game of paranoid delusion:

vote: Frenzied_Potato

as to why Gwar is taking place in this debacle I am unclear. Either he is moronically mimicking Frenzied as he has no evidence himself...or they are in cohesion with one another. And lack of evidence?

Brother_Stynier has claimed to be an Inquisitor, but has named you Frenzied soley as a non-xenos. The rest of his investigations were strangely interupted?? It does not bode well. He could easily be a xenos and trying to cover his partner - yourself.

Gwar has said barely anything, and is equally guilty as myself for the death of Oblitr8r. He is known for his silence, before a quick shiv-vote at the end.

Valhallan has had some fairly disastorous opinions himself, and yet he has also evaded your attentions thus far?

And as I stated eralier (and several times) If I was the Xenos then why let Gornall (who has always been hostile to myself) live for so long? Gornall's death is tragic, but doubly so as it is framing myself...

What about your previous suspicions of Ultrafool and Gwar Frenzied? do you think to buy their alliance by voting for a more vocal member of the group? Perhaps you seek to whittle away the more independently-minded so that you and your other xenos ally may claim your prize?

[humour] I will be quitely chuckling in data-hell at your own self-destructive actions this day!

Too many innocent have died we are all probably going to hell for this one. Someone who prides himself in logic why would you even bother with a knee jerk paranoid vote towards me then.

I agree with all your notes as well. I also remember what I said about Ultrafool and Gwar! I hold high suspicion towards both still. The only person who died with a person in his plan was indeed you. You also changed a vote to cause the lynch. What am I missing?

Having someone hate you around for as long as possible will always provide the cover of innocense. With no one against you it looks even worse...Ultrafool / Gwar / Valhallan.

So I ask again...who do we vote for?

I'm going to have to trust that BrotherStynier is who he says he is. Since no one has come out to challenge him in this role, it seals my certainty. Since he has cleared you, logicly, I have to trust you, FP. Demogerg suspected me, and said so, and he was killed. I know I'm human. I think Demogerg was killed to frame me. Gornall suspected DLS, and he was killed. Logiclly, that points to him being human as well. I say vote Gwar! or Ultrafool.

So I am your best choice?

Valhallan? I have no master I lied saying I was an acolyte so I could draw people out of hiding. I am just a concerned imperial citizen trying to save lives.

I think our mechanicus friend needs his oil changed.

Like I said, I'm voting for Gwar! His lurking and his quick votes lead me in that direction.

Valhallan42nd wrote:I think our mechanicus friend needs his oil changed.

Like I said, I'm voting for Gwar! His lurking and his quick votes lead me in that direction.

So you will not vote DLS? He needs his oil changed?

DLS would you vote valhallan?

[concur] indeed frenzied, you are not the best or most logical choice...

unvote: frenzied-potato

I apologise. Emotion frequently overcomes logic and for that I am sorry.

I do belive Stynier is an inquisitor, and his word is law. So in that vein, you yourself is also innocent.

The most logical would be those we know least about who wilfully hide in the shadows: Ultrafool & Gwar

However, Valhallan I cannot fathom. As I stated earlier he is a sycophant, but wether that makes his a conspirator or simply weak-willed, I do not know.

My main line of suspicion would be Gwar, as he has spoken more than Ultrafool, and jumped in with your vote fairly and oddly quickly. However I will withold voting again so quickly.

Unvote: Dark Lord Seanron

This dialogue is well timed and needed I can form a far better decision from this please continue. The fact is Brother Stynier may very well be my master and I am drawn to slam my head in the wall questioning him. Does a proper acolyte question him? What is to be done?

Where do we go from here? What is real? Who has anything to lose?

valhallan42nd wrote:
I'm going to have to trust that BrotherStynier is who he says he is. Since no one has come out to challenge him in this role, it seals my certainty. Since he has cleared you, logicly, I have to trust you, FP. Demogerg suspected me, and said so, and he was killed. I know I'm human. I think Demogerg was killed to frame me. Gornall suspected DLS, and he was killed. Logiclly, that points to him being human as well. I say vote Gwar! or Ultrafool.

I hate to repeat myself, but that's my logic. It's a risk, but I think it's the best view of the situation.

You both trust BrotherStynier? I can't verify that as confidently as he did for me. Regardless of the safety even of the feeling of being safe feels.

Though I have been able to form links between people I havnt been right once.

I have very little against Ultrafool Gwar short of the question I asked the three that Ultrafool answered with what I expected.

There's no way I could of nailed both with that.

<OOC> Edited twice so it makes a lil more sence to why I cast doubt on BrotherStynier.

We represent half of what is left.

The odds are that one of us three maybe even two are xenos.

What is one to do?

If this is how it actually is I will enjoy the laugh after I am dead

:: Has a nervous laugh ::

[logic] well, in this late stage, our foe will seek a quick vote to even out the numbers, and allow the ene,y to overpower whomever is left.

To that end they will either:

(a) watch how the converation turns and pounce on a lynch when it is most convenient

(b) or cause panic with quick and rapid voting.

Ultrafool has been incredibly quiet so I find it hard to form a consensus on him. However his lack of verbal defence of himself could be damning.

Gwar jumped on your vote very quickly and with no real explanation other then "oh, I think your guilty"

Valhallan voted for Gwar afterward, stating logic. Whether this is true or not I cannot say. He does frequently base his vote on the feelings of others.

[concur] I like you Frenzied feel lost. In front of me are three individuals, two I know to be xenos. An incorrect choice willl lead to the death of us all...

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[logic] well, in this late stage, our foe will seek a quick vote to even out the numbers, and allow the ene,y to overpower whomever is left.

To that end they will either:

(a) watch how the converation turns and pounce on a lynch when it is most convenient

(b) or cause panic with quick and rapid voting.

Ultrafool has been incredibly quiet so I find it hard to form a consensus on him. However his lack of verbal defence of himself could be damning.

Gwar jumped on your vote very quickly and with no real explanation other then "oh, I think your guilty"

Valhallan voted for Gwar afterward, stating logic. Whether this is true or not I cannot say. He does frequently base his vote on the feelings of others.

[concur] I like you Frenzied feel lost. In front of me are three individuals, two I know to be xenos. An incorrect choice willl lead to the death of us all...

Yes Gwars! vote did not go un noticed most people who do vote with me agreed with a sentiment or a link I found. BrotherStynier knew I am willing to die to find the truth. By coming out with me it made us both targets...both targets are alive to this point...If him or I died it could of brought someone up. I dont see him as being a xenos.

Ultrafool's lack of voice is indeed a problem.

Is keeping quite really a bad thing? Then again if someone pointed at you I would think a normal person would fight like hell...

[logic] then by your logic that leaves Ultrafool and Valhallan.

If Stynier is who he says he is then we have our xenos.

If is the keyword here.

I believe the reason I am alive is since the people I am going after are innocent and most of the time my reasoning is sound but the result was in err. So I make an error and target an innocent it is a good guess that most will vote with me. I find at least a worthy amount to doubt DLS...Gwar jumped on first. The exactly opposite of what he started as...

Valhallan Ultrafool could make sense but I am not fully satisfied.

As you state it is a big "if."

<OOC> Fixed English

Keeping quiet means flying under the radar, unnoticed. No one can pin anything on you because you've said nothing.

For as wrong as I've been, I don't think anyone can accuse me of being quiet.

[query] do you believe Stynier to be an inquisitor?

<OOC> Deleted Double Post

No I do not.

Exonerating me helps my situation but I ask why?

If I am to be a proper acolyte I need to be finding heretics not making friends. Up until the point he did that I was seriously considering him. So I let it play by and I watched how he reacted. People came at me with harsher responses when they heard I was an acolyte.

Also as a through and through inquisitor he should be sharper but came up with nothing?

He hasn't pointed at anyone since. Pointing at people rouses suspicion and forces defense to be made and conversations to be had. How can we gather evidence without action?

I firmly believe no decision is far more dangerous then a bad decision. Hesitation has a hell of a price. What we three are doing is exactly what a decision creates. A lack of voting would of been us sitting around waiting...waiting...to die.

<OOC> Additional comment.

[concur] indeed, although he has been the only one to present the seal...that is indeed a potent act in these harsh times. His survival and lack of his own accusations is indeed peculiar...

Valhallan what do you make of this?

I've stated my peace.

At this point, since another Inquisitor hasn't come forth, it's likely that BrotherStynier is who he says he is.

People are out to frame me. People are out to frame DLS. That point to him being human, and I know I'm human.

That eliminates four out of six, leaving the lurk-lurk twins as our likely suspects. Of course, if BrotherStynier is a xenos, then we're all dead.

My vote will stand for Gwar, or would go for Ultrafool if you feel he is more likely.

I will not die without at least trusting one person. This person is you Dark Lord Seanron. I believe this is the only way that we all have a chance. If I am wrong well at least my fall came from a person of great understanding and logic. Better to be killed through reason and intelligence lest be some ork.

So where do we go from here? My idea would be to look at all the survivors one by one and go through behavoir or notable actions. Perhaps between the two of us we can better see the xenos for what they are.

<OOC> Better to die by a robots hands then your own. At least it won't be an accident on their part

[query] your either very smart in suggesting Ultrafool as well Valhallan...or innocent, I am not certain which...

Smart being is if I am a xeno and suggest those two?

Or Since I am innocent I suggest those two as worthy choices?

[loading historic data]

Stynier - claims to be Inquisitor. admittedly has made no bad votes or swing judgements. Suspicion: low at this point

Gwar! - quiet swing voter. cannot ignore attempt to lynch myself with lack of evidence. Stalks in shadows along with Ultrafool. Suspicion: reasonably high

Ultrafool - quiet. has become quieter after several votes. admittedly have lost proverbial sight of him due to his low profile. Suspicion: reasonably high, if Stynier is to be believed

Valhallan - Sycophantic swing voter, is prone to panic. However, out of the others he has attempted to atone for previous wrong votes and is the only one out of the above who claims innocence. Suspicion: High

[additional] I was addressing Valhallan with the last comment - ([query] your either very smart in suggesting Ultrafool as well Valhallan...or innocent, I am not certain which...)

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:

Valhallan voted for Gwar afterward, stating logic. Whether this is true or not I cannot say. He does frequently base his vote on the feelings of others.

::nervous laugh:: Since gut feeling wasn't working out so well, I decided logic might be a better choice.

Stynier: Very hard to get answers from. I have not seen hasty or swing vote changes. This was the only thing I have trouble trying to figure out.

BrotherStynier wrote:
I say we kill DarkO, if he is indeed one of the xenos than his death will only serve to clear my name

Was this a smart move or a mistake?

(OOC: that's me for tonite guys, shall be back 2moz ^^ be safe!!)

Gwar / Ultrafool

I said this:

There are very few leads I have left but worth looking into. The link between Drk_Oblit and Brotherstynier died with Oblit.

Gwar / Ultrafool / Lord Loss

I pose a question to you three.

If there are three people how can you guarantee a secret be kept between the three?



Ultrafool answered:

I knew my gut was right about Drk_O not being the traitor. And Gornall is amongst the dead.

Frenzied potato, I think I have an answer for your question. In order to keep the secret you must kill two of the three. If I am correct then you are implying that two of the three you listed are the culprits.

Not as much evidence but this is where the line of questioning ended. He didnt pursue it anymore.

Valhallan this is against you:


BrotherStynier wrote:"Hmm I figure its about time to do this... There are two people in this room I know not to be Genestealers for a fact. Those people are Frenzied Potato and myself..." I reach into my coat pocket producing my Inquisitorial Rosarius and Writ, "I am the Inquisitor and last night in my investigations I discovered that the man I thought to be a xenos was in fact who he said he was."



BrotherStynier, I want to beleive you, but surely you must have more information that this? All you know is that Frenzied Potato is innocent, after three nights of investigation?

You may claim any position you want, Sir. Any one of us could make a similar claim. Without proper access to the Terran interfaces, there is no way to prove your writ is anything but so many words. And those same interfaces are unavailable while we are encased in a Gellar Field, a fact that you surely must know. The fact that you voted for the deaths of both Airman and Drk_oblit, both innocent, and you did not know about the traitor Manchu leaves something to be said...

You must pardon my scepticism, BrotherStynier, but at this point, we cannot trust any such claims. We have only our gut feelings to follow.

You posted this. What made your doubt fade?

<OOC> A pleasure DLS should be interesting. I am heading out as well. Cheers will be back tomalow.

Again, it's because no-one else came forward.

::quick check of the scenarios:: Hold on, BrotherStynier could be lying through his teeth. I thought all the scenarios that had a Sanctioned Psyker had an inquisitor.

Damn it. There goes the whole thing again. Feth.

Frenzied Potato wrote:

BrotherStynier wrote:I was unfortunately unable to discover anything, it seems the have a Magus with them. A leader genestealer, they have the ability to prevent people's actions.

What action was prevented on your part?

An investigation into our ranks was prevented by the Magus.

I understand everyone's lack of faith in my abilities, only one investigation had proven successful in our time here and that was the investigation of Frenzied. Mekboy was killed by the genestealers before the day, and the traitor Manchu was slain as well, something I would have had to do myself. And now I claim that last night my investigation was stopped before it started by a Magus. As to the remarks about me not being very sharpe as in Inquisitor let me ask you this, would you announce who you are straight off the bat or try and wait until you have more evidence? I hid in the shadows and acted the Old Arbites to try and take attention off of myself whilst still attempting to assist against the xenos.

What I find suspicious is that two people that were against each other have suddenly become allies, it almost seems like something the genestealers would do to guide the voting towards others and away from themselves. Seanron you've just decided to put aside you hostility towards Frenzied for what appears little reason other than saving yourself.

Stynier,

At this point, I don't know what to think. I want to beleive you, but there is no proof you can give any of us to convince us totally. The only thing that I know for a fact is that I am human. I thought I had it figured out, but now, I'm not sure.

unvote:gwar!

If you are human trust your instincts and may the Emperor have mercy on your soul if you are wrong.

OCC. sorry have to share the computer with five other people. Posting at school nows.

Many of you are going more suspicous of me since I am am not speaking as much as I should and am sorry for that.

BrotherStynier wrote:If you are human trust your instincts and may the Emperor have mercy on your soul if you are wrong.

Then whom do you suspect, BrotherStynier?

I am an Inquisitor, I have to suspect everyone, save those whose names I've cleared. I regret not being able to clear yours last night.

BrotherStynier wrote:I am an Inquisitor, I have to suspect everyone, save those whose names I've cleared. I regret not being able to clear yours last night.

I don't believe you are Stynier, you revealed your position yesterday and it would seem to me that you would be a great target for the killers since you said you were the inquisitor. But you are not dead, so which seems to me that you are one of the killers, or that the culprits are really stupid not to kill you in the night.

Or the genestealers knew that killing me wouldn't help as I said I expected them to come for me. They know who I am and have a Magus, why would they have to kill me when they can just block my powers and let you do it for them?

BrotherStynier wrote:Or the genestealers knew that killing me wouldn't help as I said I expected them to come for me. They know who I am and have a Magus, why would they have to kill me when they can just block my powers and let you do it for them?

I'd have to say that's a valid tactic. I hadn't thought about it.

It would certainly cast doubt on you.

Who me or Stynier?

It would cast doubt on Stynier being an Inquisitor,

Ok, Well he did say he that Potato was not the one of the killer in his investigations, maybe he is looking after his fellow traitor by telling us that he is innocent.

Would it not make more sense if I was the traitor to claim that someone not associated with me is human rather than someone who is a fellow traitor?

[explanation] the reason I dropped my vote against Frenzied is purely because he pointed out the flaw in my logic. I was voting with anger, not with logic. Frenzied dropping his vote against me was unexpected but in no way unwelcome.

I do genuinely believe you are who you say you are Stynier, in which case both you and Frenzied are absolved from guilt in my eyes. This gives me a strong morale compass to rely on.

As stated before I am slightly suspicious of Valhallan, and deeply suspicious of our two oh-so quiet friends Gwar and Ultrafool.

[query] and what of yourself inquisitor. You seem overly keen to keep your suspicions to your chest? Please, share your thoughts with us, they may indeed lighten our situation.

Ye Thirteenth Vote Accounting
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0 - Vote BrotherStynier
0 - Vote Frenzied Potato
0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
1 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron (Gwar!)
0 - Vote Gwar!
0 - Vote Lord-Loss
0 - Vote Ultrafool

0 - Vote No Lynch

5 - Not Voting (Ultrafool, Valhallan42nd, BrotherStynier, Frenzied Potato, Dark Lord Seanron)

With 6 alive it requires 4 to Lynch
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Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[explanation] the reason I dropped my vote against Frenzied is purely because he pointed out the flaw in my logic. I was voting with anger, not with logic. Frenzied dropping his vote against me was unexpected but in no way unwelcome.

I do genuinely believe you are who you say you are Stynier, in which case both you and Frenzied are absolved from guilt in my eyes. This gives me a strong morale compass to rely on.

As stated before I am slightly suspicious of Valhallan, and deeply suspicious of our two oh-so quiet friends Gwar and Ultrafool.

[query] and what of yourself inquisitor. You seem overly keen to keep your suspicions to your chest? Please, share your thoughts with us, they may indeed lighten our situation.

I too am suspicious of Valhallan, he originally put himself up as one of the suspicious voters, of those 4 only he remains. Either he's one of the creatures or it's a set up, the goal to get us to kill him off. Gwar and Ultrafool are suspicious to me because they remain quite for the most part, one only speaking up when it comes time to vote, and the other to seed thoughts of doubt about each other.

And then there is you, my reasons for suspecting you are as follows, your claim to be AdMech seems odd and your acceptance of my claim is about all I have to go from with you.

I am an active voter, to be sure. And I feel that I have been honest and up front about my motivations for voting against whomever I voted against.

Lord of Ghosts: His statement about the hive fleets led me to beleive that he was a Genestealer.

Airman: If you all recall, Dark Obliterator was getting the most votes, and I argued against him, after initally voting for him. I felt that he was perhaps too obvious a suspect. If I were a Genestealer, I would have toed the party line and just gone along with the vote, instead of voting for someone I genuinely felt was a genestealer. Those foul xenos things do not want to make waves, otherwise they become suspicious.

Drk.Oblit: At that point, I felt like I [ed:was] zero for two, and perhaps I had been fooled by DrkOblit. That vote was peer pressure to a certain extent.

Lord-Loss: His behavior was erratic and seemingly chaotic, just as one might expect from a xenos.

On those last three votes, BrotherStynier, we have agreed, and [we have both] been wrong all three times. [To err is human, I suppose] I think we face two patient hunters here, biding their time in the shadows. That points to either Gwar! or Ultrafool.

I feel most comfortable voting for either one of them.

[all edits in brackets. edited for clarity and grammer]

So it seems to me that everyone is after me or Gwar now, mmm..... well many of you blame me because I have been listening more than speaking. I ensure to all of you that i am not one of the killers, but most of you will deny this and continue to help the traitors.

Valhallan42nd wrote:

Lord of Ghosts: His statement about the hive fleets led me to beleive that he was a Genestealer.

{OOC: yay! I am still being talked about!!}

lord of the ghosts wrote:

Valhallan42nd wrote:

Lord of Ghosts: His statement about the hive fleets led me to beleive that he was a Genestealer.

{OOC: yay! I am still being talked about!!}

(OOC: Dood, I don't think you should be posting, you're dead!)

Guys, please respect the game thread for those still playing.

Edit: and if you want to offer a rebuttal please dear gawd just PM me and don't clutter the thread any more.

Thanks,
Thor.

How do we proceed from here?

Valhallan42nd wrote:How do we proceed from here?

[point] That is an almost pointless question, Valhallan, as you know how we should proceed. We each choose who we deem is the guiltiest and then vote thusly. We have a 33% chance of being correct in this instance.

[conclusion] As of this point I am most suspicious of Gwar. He voted fairly quickly with no evidence toward me incredibly quickly, and has been unreasonable quiet since the group decided I was no longer a threat. I will not leap in with a lynch vote as of yet, but Gwar seems most likely to me.

[clarify] also, Stynier, it is quite impossible for me to 'claim' to be a member of the blessed Mechanicum.

*activates mechandrites, and opens robes to reveal vast augmentation, lowers hood briefly to show occular implants and a painful looking re-breather. The Mechanicus surgery is extensive.*

I do believe the undoing of my flesh stands testament to my identity. I have been wholly honest with who I am throughout this situation, unlike yourself Stynier. Question anything you like about me, but never question my faith in the Omnissiah...

I was being too coy for you, apparently.

Vote Gwar!

Vote: Gwar!

<OOC>Won't be on for a day hopefully game doesn't end here If So its been a blasty blast. -Cheers

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:

Valhallan42nd wrote:How do we proceed from here?

[point] That is an almost pointless question, Valhallan, as you know how we should proceed. We each choose who we deem is the guiltiest and then vote thusly. We have a 33% chance of being correct in this instance.

[conclusion] As of this point I am most suspicious of Gwar. He voted fairly quickly with no evidence toward me incredibly quickly, and has been unreasonable quiet since the group decided I was no longer a threat. I will not leap in with a lynch vote as of yet, but Gwar seems most likely to me.

[clarify] also, Stynier, it is quite impossible for me to 'claim' to be a member of the blessed Mechanicum.

*activates mechandrites, and opens robes to reveal vast augmentation, lowers hood briefly to show occular implants and a painful looking re-breather. The Mechanicus surgery is extensive.*

I do believe the undoing of my flesh stands testament to my identity. I have been wholly honest with who I am throughout this situation, unlike yourself Stynier. Question anything you like about me, but never question my faith in the Omnissiah...

Fair enough Priest, I will question your faith no longer.

As for casting my vote for he who is most suspicious in my eyes I must choose Valhallan for now, remember its my job to be suspicious of others its nothing personal.

VOTE: Valhallan42nd

BrotherStynier wrote:

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:

Valhallan42nd wrote:How do we proceed from here?

[point] That is an almost pointless question, Valhallan, as you know how we should proceed. We each choose who we deem is the guiltiest and then vote thusly. We have a 33% chance of being correct in this instance.

[conclusion] As of this point I am most suspicious of Gwar. He voted fairly quickly with no evidence toward me incredibly quickly, and has been unreasonable quiet since the group decided I was no longer a threat. I will not leap in with a lynch vote as of yet, but Gwar seems most likely to me.

[clarify] also, Stynier, it is quite impossible for me to 'claim' to be a member of the blessed Mechanicum.

*activates mechandrites, and opens robes to reveal vast augmentation, lowers hood briefly to show occular implants and a painful looking re-breather. The Mechanicus surgery is extensive.*

I do believe the undoing of my flesh stands testament to my identity. I have been wholly honest with who I am throughout this situation, unlike yourself Stynier. Question anything you like about me, but never question my faith in the Omnissiah...

Fair enough Priest, I will question your faith no longer.

As for casting my vote for he who is most suspicious in my eyes I must choose Valhallan for now, remember its my job to be suspicious of others its nothing personal.

VOTE: Valhallan42nd

I understand, even forgive your reasoning, but I beg you to reconsider, BrotherStynier. Reconsider your vote for the good of this ship and its crew, and the office you hold dear. I am as human as you, and if vote against me, they win.

Sytnier, can you state some information as why you voted for Valhallan42nd?

It was meant to be a lure, an attempt to get others to rapidly vote with little reason.

I think the others you're tempting to lure may have fallen asleep. We haven't been sleeping well for obvious reasons.

I am not afraid to fall asleep Valhallan42nd, for if i die I will finally be beside the glorious emperor and end all of my suffering in my life and escape the damn chaos on this ship.

Life is a prison, death is but a release.

To embrace death before our duty is ended is to fail the Emperor. Whatever these xenos have planned for a Terra bound ship is something I want to stop. Our oaths of service to Emperor demand it.

[definitive] Indeed, my mind is made up

vote Gwar!

Ye Fourteenth Vote Accounting
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0 - Vote BrotherStynier
0 - Vote Frenzied Potato
1 - Vote Valhallan42nd (BrotherStynier)
1 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron (Gwar!)
3 - Vote Gwar! (Valhallan42nd, Frenzied Potato, Dark Lord Seanron)
0 - Vote Lord-Loss
0 - Vote Ultrafool

0 - Vote No Lynch

1 - Not Voting (Ultrafool)

With 6 alive it requires 4 to Lynch
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Fools, all of you! I am no Foul Xenos!

I'm not saying I trust Gwar any more than the rest of you but I find how quickly you all jump on him rather disturbing. The price of a rash judgment is well known to us all, is he really he you all wish to vote for?

If you are who you say you are, and I beleive you are, then I firmly beleive that Gwar! and Ultrafool are the culprits.

Of course, if you're lying to us, then you have abused our trust, and sealed our fate. So I hope you aren't lying to us. May the God Emperor damn your soul if you are.

[query] Stynier, I am becoming concerned on your slowness of voting. We have all put forward valid reasons for Gwar, so it isn't a high-speed process.

And again his reasoning of "I'm innocent because I'm not guilty" doesn't really wash with me.

[conclusion] my vote stands.

And I am quite concerned with the quickness of your's. But I digress, I will pass my vote for Gwar, may the Emperor forgive me if I'm wrong.

UNVOTE:Valhallan
VOTE:Gwar

If I am wrong I will at least die knowing that the defense fleet will never let the Xenos to Earth.

With Brother Stynier's vote the decision has been made. He leads the charge himself alongside Frenzied Potato, the only other man he fully trusts. Gwar! let's out a bleat of protest but Stynier pulled forth his Inquisitorial sidearm and finished Gwar! quickly. Ultrafool lurks quietly, unsure what to say about the proceedings.

"Now we will have the truth about this," snarled Stynier as he began to investigate the body. He opens Gwar's jacket and finds there a complete collection of the Space Puppies! comic book along with the fabled Jaws of the World Wolf is Really Game Breaking and here's how Design Manual that is almost impossible to find. "No heretic would read this!" Stnier's eyes narrowed as he stood up and spun around. Behind him he could already see Ultrafool collapsing in a pool of his own blood. Valhallan42nd stood over him, a knife in his hand and a grin on his face.

"Nice try, Inquisitor," smirked the xenos.

"Potato, Seanron, get behind me!" Stynier tried to raise his weapon but suddenly found his arm incapable of movement. He looked down at the mechanical arm gripping his hands tightly. Dark Lord Seanron grinned as he reached up and peeled back the metal pieces covering his mutant third arm.

"I do believe this charade is over now, for both of you." Frenzied snarled, an oath to the Emperor on his lips as he sprang forward. But Stynier could already tell how this situation would end. He glared at Seanron who had already dispatched Frenzied.

"Just tell me one thing, creature, what were you hoping to accomplish here?"

"Human," sneered the towering Magus, "that is for us to know, and for your failure of a race to discover all too late." His claws flashed, and Stynier knew only blackness.
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Genestealers Win!


Frenzied Potato - Imperial Citizen
Gwar! - Imperial Citizen
Brother Stynier - Inquisitor
Valhallan42nd - Genestealer
Dark Lord Seanron - Genestealer Magus

The game would have broken down thusly - with Gwar! dead the Genestealers could kill anyone in this night phase to achieve only 4 players left. At that point they could both vote for an Imperial citizen and either get him lynched or wait out the deadline timer.

Feel free to discuss freely now your thoughts and strategies. Feel free to mutter darkly about a player who appeared too scummy when he was innocent. And feel free to study up on what actions you thought would or would not serve you next time you find yourself in an enclosed area with a Genestealer agent on the prowl.

Well played Valhallan and DLS, I barely suspected either of you.

Now wouldn't you all have rather been murdered by a foul chaos worshiper?

Good game everyone!

One day, the Imperials will win!!

Well that was interesting.

When DLS switched his votes between Lord-Loss and DarkO, I knew he was definately one. I think the townies were voting way too much on stories and not enough on vote patterns past the first round. That and we got impatient. Once a ball started rolling, everyone was all over that person to see him lynched.

Very well played by the baddies... I'm ready for the next one!

MY LIFE WAS NOTHING
it didn't do anything.

I'd like to thank my brood mother, and my brood mates, Manchu gets an honorable mention for his assist...

I think more than anything, it was lucky breaks on our part with Stynier's choices for his ability that sealed the Imperial's fate. That, and the fact that Gwar! and Ultrafool stayed relatively silent, allowing DLS and I to control the politics.

I have almost never seen an investigator role get as much bad luck as Stynier did. Two investigations in a row got night killed.

lord of the ghosts wrote:MY LIFE WAS NOTHING
it didn't do anything.

LoG, I realized about 2/3 of the way through day one what you were, and that we had to get rid of you. That's why I kept pressing for your end; I figured it was worth the risk.

He also left you with a perfect opening setup with some of his initial votes. You barely had to shine a flashlight down the road to get a wagon moving on that one.

For me though, some of the best play was the period when Frenzied Potato actually pretty much had the entire thing figured out and the two of you managed to talk him out of it - brilliant work.

I'm also a little surprised you didn't kill Manchu sooner. Yeah, he was pressuring Seanron, but he was working hard to try to slow down votes, increase use of logic, and was starting to get somewhere with his vote analysis. What were your thoughts there?

Thor665 wrote:Dark Lord Seanron - Genestealer Magus

Ha. Knew it.

Damn you Manchu!

Thor665 wrote:I have almost never seen an investigator role get as much bad luck as Stynier did. Two investigations in a row got night killed.

That did suck. And with DLS on our side as a Magus, I knew we didn't have to fear Stynier any more. There was a post where I mentioned that I hadn't thought of such a tactic (using the magus to discredit the inquisitor) when DLS and I specificly discussed using that tactic to do so.

I almost gave it away at one point. We knew there was a Magus, and we knew there was a Psyker, so we both knew there had to be an inquisitor with the scenarios given by Thor. My whole "Oh, there are scenarios that have a psyker and no inquisitor" thing was a clumsy attempt to cover that I knew more than I should have. I'm glad that no-one picked up on it.

Thor665 wrote:I'm also a little surprised you didn't kill Manchu sooner. Yeah, he was pressuring Seanron, but he was working hard to try to slow down votes, increase use of logic, and was starting to get somewhere with his vote analysis. What were your thoughts there?

Manchu was a strong player (in both games), and I was all for his early end, but the first night was over the weekend that I had to go away. I left the choice in DLS's mechandrites, and I have to say that the choice of Mekboy worked in our favor. It threw the Imperial Players into confusion.

I was surprised you knocked me off so early. I thought you'd at least let me try and get some more kills in (sorry Orkeo!) if you had figured out who I was. But I know I played the Inquisitor role too sharply (for the second time!) and so drew too much attention. Even so, I was not eager to get the genestealers lynched. That would just leave more work for me and make it more apparent who exactly I was. Thor is right: I was all about slowing the votes down. I didn't like the confused voting because I was afraid they might actually hit upon a xenos rather than murdering each other. Paradoxically, the more "argument"--it's actually just a lot of hunches at heart--the more likely Imperials are to get frustrated and kill one of their own. It's always a good tactic to play Mr. Logic when you want to avoid Imperial suspicion--not so much when you want to avoid the bad guys. Kudos to the aliens for some excellent work!

Dark Lord Seanron - Genestealer Magus
I told you so. But no one beleives the crazy guy

Oh yeah, I wanted you dead so badly because I was sure you were an Imperial. I was surprised that people were suspicious of you even after I got waxed.

Manchu, we killed you with the idea of pinning it on Drk_Oblit. It made my change from "OH, SAVE Drk_oblit!" to "Kill Drk_Oblit"! seem to make sense.

Yeah, I think Valhallan has had some of the best scum play I've seen here. He went for a very long time without ever really ending up on anybody's radar and always seemed able to mumble enough sensible sounding excuses to ease his way out of the crosshairs. There was a while I was sure he'd be nailed with this last vote, but Ultrafool and Gwar! staying relatively silent really hurt their chances and basically left Frenzied alone with basically a pair of Devils to his Faust.

I will say overall I really liked Gornall's play too. He was a surprise mid game leader who almost seemed to be on to something as well. unfortunately for him by that time it was pretty easy to burn a night kill to silence him.

Gornall, Frenzied P. and Manchu were the only ones using logic, and so were the most dangerous.

If we had known your role, Manchu, beleive me, we would have let you live. I just figured you were the Inquisitor or the Assassin. All props to Thor for his narrative cut scene.

Lord-loss, your game play confused me. Were you trying to bait people into voting to establish patterns?

Either which, I think I'll sit the next one out and let some other people play. It's only fair.

Thor665 wrote:He also left you with a perfect opening setup with some of his initial votes. You barely had to shine a flashlight down the road to get a wagon moving on that one.

For me though, some of the best play was the period when Frenzied Potato actually pretty much had the entire thing figured out and the two of you managed to talk him out of it - brilliant work.

I'm also a little surprised you didn't kill Manchu sooner. Yeah, he was pressuring Seanron, but he was working hard to try to slow down votes, increase use of logic, and was starting to get somewhere with his vote analysis. What were your thoughts there?

Yeah I was all but sure. I couldn't get a straight answer to why they never voted eachother. That should of been enough evidence for me but I do not think I could of called a good enough rally after my last two bad guesses.

The reason I didn't stay on them was the lack of responses. When I was pinned with valhallan and DLS I had the feeling both were xenos. But how can one know unless everyone was there to participate in the conversation. Wasn't fair for other players to metagame that.

IE:

The only two people who responded have to be the xenos vote and vote....

Not fair IMO.

Good game I am more then up for another. Do let me know if you plan to run a third....I will admit lynching Gwar was a guilty pleasure.

Damn, this game is like space hulk, only the geneseankers win. Good Job everyone, I only wish that could of been more involved.

Valhallan42nd wrote:Gornall, Frenzied P. and Manchu were the only ones using logic, and so were the most dangerous.

You see, I avoided being to logical to try and prevent the attention from being drawn to me. And damn you sneakers for your killing of the people I chose to search damn you!

If it helps at all, you all were delicious.

next stop terra, i do believe :p *nom nom nom*

Good luck making it past the fleet.

If the fleets as gullible as you lot where then we're fine :p joking, awesome game guys ^^

I knew valhallan was a xenos, I had all but proved his guilt with simply the voting patterns, I would have thought that my death would have tipped you guys off to lynch him.

Lord loss just threw a monkey wrench into the entire game for me.

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