I love the arachnid queen, and just have one minor thing. If it is supposed to be a chainsword, you are missing a couple of teeth at the top to show the belt going back into the blade. If it is just a serrated blade, then great job. I think I will pick up one of those when they come out. To get around the head could you make a gemeric manidble kit that fits onto the standard guardian heads?

I think you should make another news thread for CHS because this one has way too many pages of IP arguments.

Nick, are the IG style weapons/equipment going to be available soon (hopefully at the same time as the not-guardwomen)? (I've a couple of projects needing
Shotguns, Autoguns (need lots of these!) and Hellguns.)

As another idea for the future, some IG style arms without guns attached (like the Catachan ones) would be very useful so swapping in other weapons, also not having the huge shoulder pads would be good too - again I've a few projects that could benefit from these.

poipo32 wrote:I think you should make another news thread for CHS because this one has way too many pages of IP arguments.

LOL
Any new thread would just do the same, sadly.

Eric

MagickalMemories wrote:

poipo32 wrote:I think you should make another news thread for CHS because this one has way too many pages of IP arguments.

LOL
Any new thread would just do the same, sadly.
Eric

As said

I find today's LICD comic appropriate, all things considered.



Eric

Chapterhouse wrote:Besides, like you said a head swap is a pretty easy conversion.

The problem is, where am I going to get an extra scorpion head?

...way too many pages of IP arguements.

But fundamentally it's not about IP infringement! There are plenty of companies which infringe GW's IP in some way or other, but do it in such a way that they are not stirring the hornets' nest.

I've posted several times to make this point and Nick steadfastly ignores it every time.

I admit that the CHS stuff I've seen (the rhino conversion kit) was awful quality, and I hope that this has improved for the sake of anyone who's bought one. I admit that I think the 'dragon' head doors and shoulder pads are horrible. But these are my personal opinions of CHS's products and not why I'm annoyed at them.

I'm annoyed at them because they have consistently come across as arrogant, condescending and thoughtless. I can understand why Nick just wants to be open about the products he makes and the target market he makes them for, but it's also blatantly obvious that his designs are "very heavily inspired" by GW's stuff. Whether GW can prove in court that this is IP infringement we'll have to wait and see (although common sense says "well duh!").

However, I firmly believe that the fight that Nick has provoked with GW was unnecessary and could have unpleasant repercussions to the rest of the community. In another thread Nick expressed surprise that a GW store banned all non-GW products - surely this is a direct consequence of his actions (and he was warned this could happen) and yet he says he's surprised?!

I wouldn't buy CHS's stuff because I don't think it's very good, but I do have other aftermarket stuff and I play regularly at a GW store. I don't want to lose my option to play there just because Nick wanted to prove an unnecessary point.

Having been repeatedly warned by the community that he was sailing too close to the wind with his designs and product descriptions, Nick chose to insult the people trying to help him and ignore their concerns. This is why I find it hard to stomach all the CHS apologists saying that Nick is the underdog, because he brought this on himself for no legitimate reason ...and the consequences could have repercussions for all of us.

Ilmarinen wrote:...and the consequences could have repercussions for all of us.

Like GW no longer releasing rules that don't have models the way they murdered all the Blood Bowl special characters rules and removed them from the game. Not sure how well a 'doom of Malanti' stand-in model will do on the already small niche market if there are no rules for him... and if GW waits for an official model before releasing rules then I am not sure how profitable the effort is especially if the GW model kicks mad ass. If GW makes it a habit of withholding rules to limit people from infringing, it harms the game and the community. We will see how future codexes are when they are released or if they make a shift back to limited codexes with chapter-approved articles for new releases.

But I guess one market which will always exist is the 'take a model and give it bewbs' market. But I play Orks and my models are based on a bewb-free model society...

Ilmarinen wrote:

...way too many pages of IP arguements.

But fundamentally it's not about IP infringement! There are plenty of companies which infringe GW's IP in some way or other, but do it in such a way that they are not stirring the hornets' nest.

I've posted several times to make this point and Nick steadfastly ignores it every time.

So Chapterhouse is currently in a legal matter with GW over IP stuff and your upset that they wont reply to your comments on it? I like the idea of blaming chapterhouse for GW not letting you play in there stores with 3rd party stuff...umm GW is a business afterall...they are here to make money...not to let you build cool armies. GW has a board of directors to answer to and I can promise you that board is more concerned with how much money GW is making then they are with how cool and customized your army is. Does GW want people coming into there stores and finding out about cool non GW parts that GW doesn't sell?

ironicsilence wrote:

So Chapterhouse is currently in a legal matter with GW over IP stuff and your upset that they wont reply to your comments on it? I like the idea of blaming chapterhouse for GW not letting you play in there stores with 3rd party stuff...umm GW is a business afterall...they are here to make money...not to let you build cool armies. GW has a board of directors to answer to and I can promise you that board is more concerned with how much money GW is making then they are with how cool and customized your army is. Does GW want people coming into there stores and finding out about cool non GW parts that GW doesn't sell?

Let me clarify - I have commented to this effect from before CHS was involved in legal action with GW and Nick doesn't seem to want to admit that his actions could have negative effects on other people or that he has treated gamers with contempt. It's interesting that CHS seem to be quite happy to continue commenting on other aspects though (including the issue of IP infringement itself, which is far more relevant to the court case than whether or not Nick has been an arrogant git to the gaming community).

As people have already explained, GW has always had concerns about 3rd party bits and sometimes they have taken a hard line against letting them into their stores (which is entirely their right). What I blame CHS for is poking a sleeping bear and then acting all innocent (and playing the victim) when it gets angry. GW has been quite happy to let things quietly continue for quite some time (including ignoring various 3rd party bits on armies in stores) but CHS have now made the issue a high priority again, which means that GW have had to take a harder line. I don't see how this is to anyone's benefit.

To me, this comes down to Nick wanting to prove a point, that didn't need to be made, and to hell with anyone else.

However, I firmly believe that the fight that Nick has provoked with GW was unnecessary and could have unpleasant repercussions to the rest of the community. In another thread Nick expressed surprise that a GW store banned all non-GW products - surely this is a direct consequence of his actions (and he was warned this could happen) and yet he says he's surprised?!

Let me get this straight. You are claiming Nick of the tiny chapterhouse is solemnly responsible for a gigant like GW shutting out every single non-GW piece of a model/army in their stores?
Guess it should be taken as a big compliment, that or the tin foil hat is wrapped to tight.

Having been repeatedly warned by the community that he was sailing too close to the wind with his designs and product descriptions, Nick chose to insult the people trying to help him and ignore their concerns. This is why I find it hard to stomach all the CHS apologists saying that Nick is the underdog, because he brought this on himself for no legitimate reason ...and the consequences could have repercussions for all of us.

Being insulting towards obvious hecklers is bad? Hey can I stalk your threads and be a constant gakk towards you and then whine that you are insulting me when you get enough of me and hit back?

What, was bnc to boring all of a sudden?

I wear a tinfoil hat now. Tinfoil hats are cool!

I didn't start out disliking CHS, did I? Originally I was supportive of your intention to make Salamander shoulder pads, when we were part of the very small band of Salamander enthusiasts on BnC and the Sals weren't getting any love from GW.

It was how the CHS business model developed, along with the nasty attitude that went with it, that I took exception to. My early comments were not nearly so harsh, because I was trying to help, but that was thrown back in my (and many others) face(s).

Well, I've said my piece. My accusation has yet again gone unanswered (the 'why did you pick this fight? didn't you think it might cause problems for other people? couldn't you just have been a bit more subtle?!' thing) so I'm going to stop posting on this.

Out of interest, how are your Salamanders coming along Pyriel?

Please direct all conversation about the morality/legality of ChapterHouse's decision to make whole Eldar models to this thread:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/366676.page

Any further discussion of that here will be considered off-topic and generate suspensions.

This thread is for talking about the CHS Eldar models themselves: whether you like the sculpts or not, what other Eldar sculpts you would like to see CHS produce, etc.

Thanks.

Coming out this month, we have the Rapid Response Wheeled kit for the Imperial Guard Chimera. Consist of 2 side hulls, 6 wheels and Front Heavy "bumper":

Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Manchu wrote:Please direct all conversation about the morality/legality of ChapterHouse's decision to make whole Eldar models to this thread:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/366676.page

Any further discussion of that here will be considered off-topic and generate suspensions.

This thread is for talking about the CHS Eldar models themselves: whether you like the sculpts or not, what other Eldar sculpts you would like to see CHS produce, etc.

Thanks.

Thank you!!!

Chapterhouse wrote:Coming out this month, we have the Rapid Response Wheeled kit for the Imperial Guard Chimera. Consist of 2 side hulls, 6 wheels and Front Heavy "bumper":

Looks awesome. If I do a small arbites force I was considering, I think I'll pick a few of these up.


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Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

I think that was the way it was glued, as the axels look to be aligned.

Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Thank you for saying it first, confirming it's not just me thinking this.

I don't know what it is about it but there's just something that seems unbalanced aside from the front wheel.

The front wheel does look low but cool now I can build motorized units.

It's not just you... but I suspect that it's just the parts stuck together and not truly assembled.
Personally, the side hulls don't really work for me. I like the actual tires very much, though.
It's about time someone created one of these kits.

Any intention of selling those tires separately? I'd think they might make for interesting Battlewagon or Trukk conversions.


Eric

Hey! There we go... starting to get into the realm of my 'space-nuns' with arbite-ish upgrades! (I'm waiting on your 'space-nun' conversions! ) Looking good there CH!

Come to think of it, that's what it is.

The tires are offputting the whole model.
The tires are sized for something like a Stryker or Piranha APC. Those both have much sleeker hulls and a larger ground clearance.

The Chimera hull, even with the side hull mods, just doesn't have the ground clearance to look right for a wheeled vehicle.

I like the look of it. If I didn't already have 8 chimeras, I'd have to get a few of those.

Interesting.... can we have a front shot please .

First thing from CH that i might actually have to get, glad i havent assebled my 6 chimeras yet.


Questions for Chapterhouse though.

Any chance of alt chimera turrets coming ? something that looks like a predator style ?

And any idea of a price estiment on the chimera parts ?

Hoping i dont end up with $80 chimeras if i replace tracks and turrets.

I think the tires are an excellent size for this conversion. They look good, too. I don't think there's anything wrong with them, at all.

Eric

The tires themselves are fine.

The hull they're attached to isn't sized properly from the way it looks.

It would be like attaching the lifter arm from FW's Sentinel Powerlifter to a Cadian to make a Servitor.

I dunno... this design suffers from something I see a lot in the ork conversion forums. It looks like the mechanics of the wheels simply wouldn't be functional per the design of the vehicle. The wheels are too big for the clearance of the wheelwells and the design of tank means those Axel's and wheel turning areas would cut into other parts of the model.

Of course when it is a scratch-built ork model where 'it doesn't have to work' those things kinda slide, but for a clean, imperial vehicle that is supposed to look functional, it sticks out to me as a glaring 'this won't work'

I kinda like the wheels and would like a resin solution to avoid using toy tires... and I could see using this as a looted trukk design but the wheels don't fit that model. They need to be a bit smaller for me.

Too bad you couldn't go the extra mile and design a 'middle' area that was unique and then you could have had your own product that doesn't require a GW kit as you have to scrap most the chimera kit to use these upgrades. You could have had a series of original stand-in models that could be your own product. By time you alter the outside of the tank that far, your customers have already decided to avoid official GW events with them anyways so a totally unique kit might have been a better solution overall.

I hope the tires are sold on there own, I know a lot of my friends play orks and have a hard time finding wheels

Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Kanluwen wrote:

Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Thank you for saying it first, confirming it's not just me thinking this.

I don't know what it is about it but there's just something that seems unbalanced aside from the front wheel.

thesilverback wrote:The front wheel does look low but cool now I can build motorized units.

Hi guys, the model is not assembled, it was dry fitted (in fact the right side has no armor or wheels on it).

Im looking at an area of about $13 for the kit (this may change).

So why post pictures of it then?

Not trying to be mean or anything, but at least fully assemble(or blutac) both sides to avoid things like this.

It also isnt abnormal for the front/rear wheels of a vehicle to sit lower (without suspension compressed) so the vehicle doesnt get high centered.

Dude...if you make one of these for a rhino I would so get it!!!!! I have been looking for something like this for a rhino for a long time.

But otherwise...LOOKS SWEET!!!!

Not seeing it there Grundz.

If it's simply a case of "the other side wasn't on" then that may solve it.

Kanluwen wrote:
Not seeing it there Grundz.

try lifting the vehicle off the ground
having 20 tons of APC on top tends to compress the vehicles suspension, as I stated.

Kanluwen wrote:The tires themselves are fine.

The hull they're attached to isn't sized properly from the way it looks.

Aw, crap.
Did I just agree with you on something?

Dang it!


Eric

Any way to get some front and back shots of the APC style, not just the sides. I would like to see the profile of it.

Grundz wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
Not seeing it there Grundz.

try lifting the vehicle off the ground
having 20 tons of APC on top tends to compress the vehicles suspension, as I stated.

So how is it that the front tire is down?

MagickalMemories wrote:Aw, crap.
Did I just agree with you on something?

Dang it!


Eric

MWHAHAHAHA! This is how it starts!

One agreement leads to a lifetime of awesomeness!

Any idea of the cost yet?
(Ball-park figure acceptable)

Chapterhouse wrote:Coming out this month, we have the Rapid Response Wheeled kit for the Imperial Guard Chimera. Consist of 2 side hulls, 6 wheels and Front Heavy "bumper":

Interesting... it bears a striking resemblence to the European Pandur;

I think this kit is very conducive to Ork players....

Good release!

Sweet! Chapterhouse will be getting more of my money very shortly!

Do we have a release date for that Chimera kit yet?

I like this because of the picture somone showed of a stryker.... I drove them back when and I like that style/feel.

looks like i've found my arbite patrol vehicles!

I am making a Pre-Heresy Thousand Army (based off the Grey Knights codex). These would be great to make the Chimeras look "older". I think I will be picking up a couple of these.

nkelsch wrote:I dunno... this design suffers from something I see a lot in the ork conversion forums. It looks like the mechanics of the wheels simply wouldn't be functional per the design of the vehicle. The wheels are too big for the clearance of the wheelwells and the design of tank means those Axel's and wheel turning areas would cut into other parts of the model.

...
...

While I agree with that, I also think it is the normal pattern for Imperial vehicles. They aren't designed for practical reasons. They are designed to lock chunky and brutish.

Kanluwen wrote:

Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Thank you for saying it first, confirming it's not just me thinking this.

I don't know what it is about it but there's just something that seems unbalanced aside from the front wheel.

I think its coming from how Nick mocked it up for the photo. You can't really glue the master together. If you guys want to see the WIP, go to the link in my sig.

aka_mythos wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Thank you for saying it first, confirming it's not just me thinking this.

I don't know what it is about it but there's just something that seems unbalanced aside from the front wheel.

I think its coming from how Nick mocked it up for the photo. You can't really glue the master together. If you guys want to see the WIP, go to the link in my sig.

Looked at it. Not sold on it myself(there's still just that sense of 'something off' and I can't put my finger entirely on it even seeing the full digital mock-up), but it reminds me of the Aliens APC which is sure to get some love from folks who want something like that.

Wow, very nice. The front wheel does look a bit 'off', but I assumed it was due to the dry fit, as Nick said.

Who made the kit, if I may ask?

- H8

aka_mythos wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Thank you for saying it first, confirming it's not just me thinking this.

I don't know what it is about it but there's just something that seems unbalanced aside from the front wheel.

I think its coming from how Nick mocked it up for the photo. You can't really glue the master together. If you guys want to see the WIP, go to the link in my sig.

Is that this?




It does look a lot more balanced in the CAD.

Buzzsaw wrote:
Interesting... it bears a striking resemblence to ...

Hatemonger wrote:
Who made the kit, if I may ask?

I made it, its meant to inspire a modern APC feel. So I did look at alot of different wheeled armored vehicles to develope the look I wanted for it. I really wanted to do more, but the scope of the project left some of my ideas for a possible later upgrade kit... alternate back door, an alternate turret, a piece to allow the turret to be mounted over the crew compartment... etc.

The proportion of the wheels were based around the average sized wheels you see on most APC and the ground clearance as well. Making them work for the conversion kit was just a matter of widening them for the "heroic" scale. The digital model was made so that the wheels could freely turn the same number of degrees a modern APC's wheels can... I just can't remember... 10-15 degrees I think.

Believe it or not the Aliens M557 APC did not have anything to do with this. This started as a bit of a personal project that I pitched to CH. They liked how it was going and okayed it. The concept started as... "the modern military uses vehicles like the stryker because its lighter and allows for an easier airlift capability... the [expunged] guard, are suppose to be a high mobility force and though rare if they were using a ground transport would likely need something that follows that same approach." At the same time I had the notion of making something that looked more road worthy for urban combat.

Natakue wrote:Dude...if you make one of these for a rhino I would so get it!!!!! I have been looking for something like this for a rhino for a long time.

It would be much harder for a rhino and likely not worth while as a conversion kit, since so much of that kit is the sides of the tank.

Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just not really getting 'modern APC' from it. It gives more of the Aliens APC vibe or a cartoonerized modern APC.

But that may just be because of heroic scale and the rather(being generous here) lacking GW Chimera model itself.

Kanluwen wrote:Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just not really getting 'modern APC' from it. It gives more of the Aliens APC vibe or a cartoonerized modern APC.

But that may just be because of heroic scale and the rather(being generous here) lacking GW Chimera model itself.

I understand... I'd say its that compromise between modern and anachronistic gothic hero scale. I'd only say it looks more "modern" than the unmoded kit.

Ya'll should seriously consider a version using the (near) future tire:

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/tweel-airless-tire2.htm

aka_mythos wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just not really getting 'modern APC' from it. It gives more of the Aliens APC vibe or a cartoonerized modern APC.

But that may just be because of heroic scale and the rather(being generous here) lacking GW Chimera model itself.

I understand... I'd say its that compromise between modern and anachronistic gothic hero scale. I'd only say it looks more "modern" than the unmoded kit.

Just didn't want you to think I was poo-pooing on the idea just for fun.

LavuranGuard wrote:Nick, are the IG style weapons/equipment going to be available soon (hopefully at the same time as the not-guardwomen)? (I've a couple of projects needing
Shotguns, Autoguns (need lots of these!) and Hellguns.)

As another idea for the future, some IG style arms without guns attached (like the Catachan ones) would be very useful so swapping in other weapons, also not having the huge shoulder pads would be good too - again I've a few projects that could benefit from these.

I second this question!

Also the chimera conversion look pretty neat! I had been considering kitbashing rhinos and chimeras for my urban guard army, but this might do the trick.

nkelsch wrote:

Ilmarinen wrote:...and the consequences could have repercussions for all of us.

Like GW no longer releasing rules that don't have models the way they murdered all the Blood Bowl special characters rules and removed them from the game. Not sure how well a 'doom of Malanti' stand-in model will do on the already small niche market if there are no rules for him... and if GW waits for an official model before releasing rules then I am not sure how profitable the effort is especially if the GW model kicks mad ass. If GW makes it a habit of withholding rules to limit people from infringing, it harms the game and the community. We will see how future codexes are when they are released or if they make a shift back to limited codexes with chapter-approved articles for new releases.

But I guess one market which will always exist is the 'take a model and give it bewbs' market. But I play Orks and my models are based on a bewb-free model society...

You don't remember the Orc Cheerleader? Or the even more terrifyingly female Orc mother with young? Oh the horror of gravity...

Consul Scipio wrote:Ya'll should seriously consider a version using the (near) future tire:

Well you see, this vehicle can adjust its tire air pressure to adjust ground clearance and suspension. Airless tires can't do that. The airless look also wouldn't work too well in casting... they'd be difficult to cast... and probably break under the weight of the kit.


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bubber wrote:Any idea of the cost yet?
(Ball-park figure acceptable)

I know he added it after you asked, but I think its helpful to point out again.

Chapterhouse wrote:
Im looking at an area of about $13 for the kit (this may change).

Kolath wrote:

LavuranGuard wrote:Nick, are the IG style weapons/equipment going to be available soon (hopefully at the same time as the not-guardwomen)? (I've a couple of projects needing
Shotguns, Autoguns (need lots of these!) and Hellguns.)

As another idea for the future, some IG style arms without guns attached (like the Catachan ones) would be very useful so swapping in other weapons, also not having the huge shoulder pads would be good too - again I've a few projects that could benefit from these.

I second this question!
Also the chimera conversion look pretty neat! I had been considering kitbashing rhinos and chimeras for my urban guard army, but this might do the trick.

For CH I did some human weapons a while ago... they've just been waiting for another guy to do the arms... so I know CH is working on something.

I like the chimera upgrade. I'd also love to see a half track version somehow.. like, the wheels up front and treads behind instead of twin wheels?

bubber wrote:Any idea of the cost yet?
(Ball-park figure acceptable)

Chapterhouse wrote:Im looking at an area of about $13 for the kit (this may change).

Necros wrote:I like the chimera upgrade. I'd also love to see a half track version somehow.. like, the wheels up front and treads behind instead of twin wheels?

That was one of my ideas thats sitting on a back burner... dependent on how well this sells... its for those very germanic looking armies out there. The plan would be using the same sides and wheels, to do as you say to replace the back wheels. The front end would likely get piece to give it a more truck look.

Manchu wrote:

bubber wrote:Any idea of the cost yet?
(Ball-park figure acceptable)

Chapterhouse wrote:Im looking at an area of about $13 for the kit (this may change).

The price is right...

Feels like the wheels should be slightly smaller or 'dropped' so they are higher clearance to the wheel wells. The tight fit almost makes me think of a chibi/SD vehicle design.

I am totally willing to reserve judgement until I see a assembled and painted model with the kit... It could be just a crappy dryfit job which is nice to share but i am not sure is great for first impressions.

nkelsch wrote: It could be just a crappy dryfit job which is nice to share but i am not sure is great for first impressions.

ChapterHouseStudios wrote:Hi guys, the model is not assembled, it was dry fitted (in fact the right side has no armor or wheels on it).

Manchu wrote:

nkelsch wrote: It could be just a crappy dryfit job which is nice to share but i am not sure is great for first impressions.

ChapterHouseStudios wrote:Hi guys, the model is not assembled, it was dry fitted (in fact the right side has no armor or wheels on it).

I know... and I question releasing a crappy dryfit photo to showcase a commercial product you wish to sell to potential customers.

This isn't the same as a fan getting ahold of a dirty prototype picture not mean for customer consumption, when you are the point of release you shouldn't have prototype leaks, you should have clean marketing photos that always make your products look the best they can.

Yeah, which is hard to remember when we complain about GW.

In all seriousness, really didn't think that CHS would take so much flak for the dryfitting photo. I'm a little puzzled considering most of us are more into the wargaming than the fine scale modelling aspect . . . or so I thought.

Manchu wrote:Yeah, which is hard to remember when we complain about GW.

In all seriousness, really didn't think that CHS would take so much flak for the dryfitting photo. I'm a little puzzled considering most of us are more into the wargaming than the fine scale modelling aspect . . . or so I thought.

Most of the flak was before the dryfitting aspect was revealed

I want to wait to show the complete package until we have the final cast painted and assembled up. So people may want to reserve judgement until the final photos are shown.

Here are some shots of the girls assembled with some standard cadian arms.. Notice the feminine rear ends? We are having some different heads worked on.


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nkelsch wrote:

Manchu wrote:

nkelsch wrote: It could be just a crappy dryfit job which is nice to share but i am not sure is great for first impressions.

ChapterHouseStudios wrote:Hi guys, the model is not assembled, it was dry fitted (in fact the right side has no armor or wheels on it).

I know... and I question releasing a crappy dryfit photo to showcase a commercial product you wish to sell to potential customers.

This isn't the same as a fan getting ahold of a dirty prototype picture not mean for customer consumption, when you are the point of release you shouldn't have prototype leaks, you should have clean marketing photos that always make your products look the best they can.

It is a teaser photo, the same as all the other photos many of us smaller companies release. Do trollforged and the other companies get bashed on work in progress and pre-release photos as well? Seems there is a much higher standard for everything CHS does (including teaser photos).

booty shot at the end thats just classy.....

gotta figure a way of making arbite crew members for chimeras AND rhinos now

You can shape their flak armour around their tits, you can suck their trousers into their ass cracks, but as long as they use plastic cadian arms they will never look right.

The chimera wheels came out pretty nice though.

aka_mythos wrote:
For CH I did some human weapons a while ago... they've just been waiting for another guy to do the arms... so I know CH is working on something.

Ah I'd only seen the ones from Hits, did you have artwork of yours up anywhere? I'm intrigued!

As someone already mentioned (sort of), I really hope there are Arbites in C:SoB 5th. Your newest release will certainly pick up traction (har har) in that case. Can't wait to see better pics -- but I would suggest waiting, given the respons so far . . .

Chapterhouse wrote:It is a teaser photo, the same as all the other photos many of us smaller companies release. Do trollforged and the other companies get bashed on work in progress and pre-release photos as well? Seems there is a much higher standard for everything CHS does (including teaser photos).

Okay. You need to step back a bit and realize that you did not label it as such. You did not specify "there may be some issues as it's not actually assembled and just is a dryfit".

A great amount of the earlier comments were due to, by your accounts, the fact that it's a "dryfit". That information wasn't known.

Yeah, Im not sold on the idea of having people buy seperate cadian arms. My main thoughts were the ease of using preexisting weapons everyone knew about. I now have some folks working on arms for them.

Im sure some people will be more then happy to use the GW arms though. Personally, it does not look off in my opinion. (in other words, it wouldnt bother me none if I played IG).


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Kanluwen wrote:

Chapterhouse wrote:It is a teaser photo, the same as all the other photos many of us smaller companies release. Do trollforged and the other companies get bashed on work in progress and pre-release photos as well? Seems there is a much higher standard for everything CHS does (including teaser photos).

Okay. You need to step back a bit and realize that you did not label it as such. You did not specify "there may be some issues as it's not actually assembled and just is a dryfit".

A great amount of the earlier comments were due to, by your accounts, the fact that it's a "dryfit". That information wasn't known.

My apologies then, release photos generally include a link and pricing for any future reference to future photos

Love the fast response chimera kit, pity its not just a full APC kit, like the custom built ones in white dwarf.
Tbh i'm really surprise fw ai'nt done it yet, or cargo 6 or troop trucks. but fab work.

Chapterhouse wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Chapterhouse wrote:It is a teaser photo, the same as all the other photos many of us smaller companies release. Do trollforged and the other companies get bashed on work in progress and pre-release photos as well? Seems there is a much higher standard for everything CHS does (including teaser photos).

Okay. You need to step back a bit and realize that you did not label it as such. You did not specify "there may be some issues as it's not actually assembled and just is a dryfit".

A great amount of the earlier comments were due to, by your accounts, the fact that it's a "dryfit". That information wasn't known.

My apologies then, release photos generally include a link and pricing for any future reference to future photos

It can't hurt to simply put "This is the master, before it's going out for casting. As a result it's not actually assembled, it's just dryfitted", can it?

Okay, no need to belabor the point after clarification.

That last Cadian sort of looks like "she" is in Pigtails from the back. (With my old eyes.) The big man hands rather remind me of a Transvestive that I knew who used to come into the bar. Massive steam-shovel hands and toned waxed legs that tricked several geezers from behind. I think it might be better to just bite the bullet and do some "girl" arms. Unless the end goal is an LGBT Regiment....

Edit for clarity: I worked behind the bar. It wasn't a gay bar, hence the entertaining surprise when "that bird with the legs" was revealed as "Christ its a bloke."

Finally, so getting one when it hits the digital shelves.

Chapterhouse wrote:Yeah, Im not sold on the idea of having people buy seperate cadian arms. My main thoughts were the ease of using preexisting weapons everyone knew about. I now have some folks working on arms for them.

Im sure some people will be more then happy to use the GW arms though. Personally, it does not look off in my opinion. (in other words, it wouldnt bother me none if I played IG).

Great news!

While GW arms may or may not be fine (don't want to really get drawn on this) it's nice to be able to buy something that doesn't require me to either buy a whole box for just the arms, or raid the Bits stores so I welcome the move. As I posted before extra arms to be used on GW Cadians would be good too, especially since their hands are cast on the guns making weapon swaps tricky. Also arms without or with removable shoulder pads would be neat as they would be more useful for people making Praetorians or other IG styles that don't have Cadian body armour.

Simon

ArbeitsSchu wrote: Unless the end goal is an LGBT Regiment....

Seems a bit redundant since we already have Dark Angels . . .

I keed. Sort of. I agree with ArbeitSchu here. Female miniatures generate the most scrutiny of all. It will be tough not to do this holistically.

Manchu wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote: Unless the end goal is an LGBT Regiment....

Seems a bit redundant since we already have Dark Angels . . .

Ha!

Manchu wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote: Unless the end goal is an LGBT Regiment....

Seems a bit redundant since we already have Dark Angels . . .

I keed. Sort of. I agree with ArbeitSchu here. Female miniatures generate the most scrutiny of all. It will be tough not to do this holistically.

I think Female miniatures in the heroic scale are some of the hardest things to get right. The accentuated features that distinguish male characters are obviously different from females, so when you're holding certain details constant, like armor and weapons you're really fighting the way you have to reproportionalize details to a female figure. Realistically if you had a male and female soldier standing at such a distance as to appear the height of a miniature, you couldn't tell them apart. Thus good details end up being generally subtle... and bad detail ends up cartoony with parts that look inflated.

I love the wheeled chimera pieces... very nice!

I think the female torso and legs are done pretty well. I don't see anything worth complaining about there.
if I was playing IG and buying those, though, I'd have to convert every arm I wanted to put on them. The IG arms just don't look right to me. The arms look masculine, and the shoulder pads (to me) just seem WAAAY to big.

So, I like *YOUR* portions of that model.


Eric

I'll echo a lot of the sentiments posted by several dakkanauts so far: The CH parts of the IG girls look great! Cadian arms on them, not so much. The arms are as long as and bigger around than their legs, and they look a bit like gorilla women, proportionally. Assuming the arms you've got in the works come out as well as the rest has, you'll be golden!

Wheeled chassis soon and 2 FW Griffons coming already? Could I get any happier?

Looking good on the Chimera tracks, even with just the teaser.

...now any update on the Jetbikes?

Jetbikes are still very much in the preliminary phase. While I do have CAD versions of them, we are busy with many other things and it will probably be next month until the basic one is even printed up.

Neat idea on the Wheeled conversion kit. The giant wheels make it look a little 'kiddy' but I think that's a result of the model being a little stubby to begin with...

Dangit now i gotta save up for a few more vulvapods, two wheeled chimeras for my necromunda stuff, some not eldar jetbikers, and a not the DoM. ChapterHouse is going to bankrupt my hobby fund with these releases.

I'm not crazy about the helmets, I think they'll look a little out of place with my cadians, any chance of getting the heads without the helms that would fit in the empty plastic cadian helmet?

I'd forgotten about your plan to do Jetbikes - I'm looking forward to them, especially after the much anticipated Kromlech ones came in at $20 each...!

Nice, the wheeled rapid response kit for Chimeras makes it great to make also Adeptes Arbites Paddy wagons!

Looks nice to me. Be nice to have a different look to the chimera for those playing Elysians.

Lord Solaar wrote:I'm not crazy about the helmets, I think they'll look a little out of place with my cadians, any chance of getting the heads without the helms that would fit in the empty plastic cadian helmet?

Non helmet heads are in the works.

Is this guy your new painter? That looks like your Doomseer in that cabinet.

Yeah, hes one of the 3 we decided to ask paint our stuff.

Hey There Chapterhouse. I came across your stuff searching for inspirational images for my salamander army. I have to say that if I wasn't into sculpting and modeling my own stuff I would be a huge customer of yours for Salamander specific kits. Really brilliant and I like the Space Wolf kits you have better than FW. Yours are much more "Tribal" for lack of a better word and fit in better with Space Wolf iconography. Your Chimera is a fantastic idea and while I can see how it would look in a more finished state, it does seem a little tacked on. Take it back to the prototype stage and get it to fit a little more seamlessly into the hull (specifically along the top of the hull) and this would be a stellar kit. Fantastic stuff nonetheless and its very inspiring.

As far as more Eldar kits go it would be nice to have a Falcon/Wave Serpent hull that, instead of a cockpit with an eldar driver and gunner there was a giant spirit stone. I tried this with an OOP wraithlord head but it didn't work and seemed far to obvious. I think you'd be able to accomplish this successfully. I also created my own jetbike, and while it looked pretty cool as a prototype/conversion again it required a little more sculpting ability that my current skill set provides.


Someone else was also remarking on putting road wheels on a rhino. Its not too hard to do. I used the Chaos Dwarf Hellcannon wheels and put them in place of the tracks for a Death Guard rhino. It was successful, but a hell of a lot of work surprisingly. Can see my gallery if interested as I don't want to hijack this thread.

I've gotta say...
I think you are the first person to ever say that CHS's stuff fits better with GW's iconography than kits that were made by GW (or a subsidiary). LOL

Eric

The Wheeled kit is excellent. It has so much potential for Cult Limo's, paddy wagons ect. Fitting the kit with other Chimera variants seems possible so you can have wheeled armored Bassies!! The wheels look big in the picture (they do not have a lot of clearance around the wheel well) and though they stick out past the fenders/body the effect is not over done, just makes it look more aggressive. The sides themselves are a little thiner than even the new Chimera sides. While the dry fit picture looks stubby, the view from above looks like a slimmer Chimera. Good Job Chapterhouse! I had not planned on buying another FW armored Basilisk, but I have to wheel one out!

I think I'm going to have to get the wheeled kit, as I have the bitz for the chimera hull pieces, but not the tank sides.

Alpharius wrote:I'd forgotten about your plan to do Jetbikes - I'm looking forward to them, especially after the much anticipated Kromlech ones came in at $20 each...!

That price was such a disappointment. The CAD mock ups for the CH ones have me really looking forward to getting them (provided they stay within a good price point), even if it is a few months yet before we can expect them. It's never been a better time to build a Pre Heresy army.

Make an APC body to go with the kit/wheels and I'll have five or so.

A 40k BTR would do nicely.

Love the wheeled kit! Looks like an Arbites ASLAV, ready-made!

I'm currently putting together an Arbites army, and this may become the centrepiece!

Padre^.

ASLAV?

While you are doing female arms....


Arms for officers/sergeants with pistols and swords in different poses!!!!!!! I'm running out of steel legion bitz!!!!

LavuranGuard wrote:Also arms without or with removable shoulder pads would be neat as they would be more useful for people making Praetorians or other IG styles that don't have Cadian body armour.

Dear god please listen to LavuranGuard.

Your female infantry kits really excite me and I'd love to incorporate some into my Praetorian force.

Any chance you will make new helmet-less female heads to go with these new kits?

BrookM wrote:ASLAV?

Australian Light Armoured Vehicle.

Aka:

CH, I'd like to say that I very much like and approve of this kit. It's well executed, requires little extra work, and adds a noticeable difference to the 40K forces. You'll want to get aka_mythos to do other stuff for you if you can, thumbs up to the chap himself there.

A suggestion for the female cadians. Whilst standard plastic Cadian arms do not fit very well, Forgeworld Renegade arms are much slimmer, and would no doubt complement the build. Failing using those, I would recommend designing weapon arms just for them.

I reckon Elysian arms would work even better for female guard as well.

Will have to get about 10 of those chimera kits for my elysians! Coupled with your TS kits, im going to be sending a lot of money your way soon! On the shipping to England note, is it better to buy in small lots, or one big one, particularly regarding customs?

Btw, when is the TS Techmarine stuff going to be released?

Vitruvian XVII wrote:I reckon Elysian arms would work even better for female guard as well.

Will have to get about 10 of those chimera kits for my elysians! Coupled with your TS kits, im going to be sending a lot of money your way soon! On the shipping to England note, is it better to buy in small lots, or one big one, particularly regarding customs?

Btw, when is the TS Techmarine stuff going to be released?

The molding company is working on it. We have some more new kits coming out that will be ready to "tease" about by the time I come back from vacation next weekend.

DarkTraveler777 wrote:

LavuranGuard wrote:Also arms without or with removable shoulder pads would be neat as they would be more useful for people making Praetorians or other IG styles that don't have Cadian body armour.

Dear god please listen to LavuranGuard.

Your female infantry kits really excite me and I'd love to incorporate some into my Praetorian force.

Any chance you will make new helmet-less female heads to go with these new kits?

Helmetless heads are in the work. I am also pretty sure I will have weaponless arms coming up soon (in position to hold weapons of course). I cringe at the thought of people having to put weapons in empty arms, but that seems what people want, rather then bulky GW arms with weapons

My personal preference with arms is right arm with gun, left arm with open hand. One thing I hate about the current cadian arms is the molded left hand on the barrel.

How about some arms with guns, but have the gun look more like the ones from Aliens

I'd prefer weaponless arms. That way it'd be a lot easier to make use of the vast array of cool weapons that the bits community produces

Really like the wheeled Chimera. Has me rethinking my current committment to "Dave Taylor" pattern Chimeras.

Would be even more awesome to see a half-track version for all the artillery pieces.

...I will think on this. Maybe I can doodle something up for a half track. Aside from whats already done, I'd only need to model the tracks and a new front.

I tell you....some 'Not Wraithguard' would certainly be welcome....at a reasonable price...

Kanluwen wrote:Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just not really getting 'modern APC' from it. It gives more of the Aliens APC vibe or a cartoonerized modern APC.

Myself, I'm getting an ONI medium chassis vehicle feel from it.

love the wheeled kit!!

when is it to be released?

I'm jumping on board with the wheeled kit. That looks amazing. It would fit in well with many themes. I'd get one for a Salamander conversion kit. I'm imagining it with a Predator turret, and it looks good in my head.

I second the vote for a Half-track version.

BrookM wrote:ASLAV?

Australian Light Armoured Vehicle.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASLAV

Im hoping to have the Wheeled Chimera Conversion kit on the website the week of May 16th. Also the first variant of the Female Guard troopers as well (I sent both off to be painted up yesterday).

Is there a way to turn Kan's comments off? I don't know how many times I can stand reading that he is not going to buy it, nor care to read his trolling on any forum here on Dakka Dakka.

Chapterhouse is putting out a product. If you don't like it, you don't have to say it 30 different times in the same thread.

The alternative Chimera wheels look awesome. Much better than the tracks, and at 13 dollars, I will be buying them for all my Chimera's, current and any I buy in the future.

In the bottom right corner of a person's posts, you should see two buttons: Friend and Ignore. Ignore will hide that poster's...er, posts, from you.

Thanks Dreadnote. That will save me a lot of headaches.

I love the wheeled kit. I'm a sucker for wheeled AFV's though.

awsome,ill be buying a kit!

keep up the awsome work CH

Chapterhouse wrote:

DarkTraveler777 wrote:

LavuranGuard wrote:Also arms without or with removable shoulder pads would be neat as they would be more useful for people making Praetorians or other IG styles that don't have Cadian body armour.

Dear god please listen to LavuranGuard.

Your female infantry kits really excite me and I'd love to incorporate some into my Praetorian force.

Any chance you will make new helmet-less female heads to go with these new kits?

Helmetless heads are in the work. I am also pretty sure I will have weaponless arms coming up soon (in position to hold weapons of course). I cringe at the thought of people having to put weapons in empty arms, but that seems what people want, rather then bulky GW arms with weapons

I love what I am reading. I eagerly await this release of the various female trooper kits.

Any pics from the front yet by chance ?

how much of the side track from the chimera is used ?

Or is the sides whole new replacments ?

No pictures from the front are available yet, im out of town and wont be back till next monday.

Our kit replaces the whole side tracks of the Chimera kit.

Fosner1703 wrote:Thanks Dreadnote. That will save me a lot of headaches.

No it won't, because you'll still see people's replies to him, and you'll get confused what they're talking about without the context of having read his post. It's a lot easier to simply not read a person's posts rather than having them all just poof on you.

Agreed, specially when they are a poster that gets quoted ALOT. Just see the name/avatar, and skim past it

I love how giving input on a model kit, when the creator is asking for input and reactions, is now apparently "trolling".

Kanluwen wrote:I love how giving input on a model kit, when the creator is asking for input and reactions, is now apparently "trolling".

He said in your post he doesn't want to read your Trolling anywhere on the forum, which would imply that he dislikes a lot more of your posts than are just in this thread.


EDIT: Clarification

I don't know how many times I can stand reading that he is not going to buy it, nor care to read his trolling on any forum here on Dakka Dakka

Just looks to me like he doesn't want to read anything else from you.

Sasori wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:I love how giving input on a model kit, when the creator is asking for input and reactions, is now apparently "trolling".

He said in your post he doesn't want to read your Trolling anywhere on the forum, which would imply that he dislikes a lot more of your posts than are just in this thread.


EDIT: Clarification

I don't know how many times I can stand reading that he is not going to buy it, nor care to read his trolling on any forum here on Dakka Dakka

Just looks to me like he doesn't want to read anything else from you.

That makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

What's that quote from Mauleed? "When you can make complete strangers on the Internet hate you, you know you're doing something magical."?

Anyways, back on topic...
Chapterhouse: you want an untapped market? Armor plates that 'lock' over the pockets on Cadian legs so people can make more veteran-y looking Guardsmen.

Do them to a high enough standard, completely devoid of insignia etc, and I'll buy enough for 130 Guardsmen.

Kanluwen wrote:What's that quote from Mauleed? "When you can make complete strangers on the Internet hate you, you know you're doing something magical."?

If that is true, then GW must be run by Gandalf and Nagash and Harry Potter and Tinker Bell, because this site alone is crapping rainbows worth of magical internet nerdrage.

- H8

Hatemonger wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:What's that quote from Mauleed? "When you can make complete strangers on the Internet hate you, you know you're doing something magical."?

If that is true, then GW must be run by Gandalf and Nagash and Harry Potter and Tinker Bell, because this site alone is crapping rainbows worth of magical internet nerdrage.

- H8

Gotta say, I love that those were the 4 magical beings you chose. Too funny.

Back on topic, the wheel conversion kit looks great from the pictures, probably the coolest-looking thing you've made. Now it just needs an afv-style turret to complete the look.

Any chance of making those wheels with a different back hub so that they'd fit on a standard GW axle? Us vehicle converters would like to have more choices when replacing the standard GW wheels.

I love the look of the wheeled Chimera kit. Any chance we can see it on a chimera? I will be over the next few months purchasing some Chimera's would love to see the conversion on a kit so I can get a idea of how it will fit in my army. The other sculpts are coming along nicely.

Just a reminder that any member who doesn't like posts made by another user, can use the Ignore feature to blank out the posts of that other member.

Fosner1703 wrote:
Chapterhouse is putting out a product. If you don't like it, you don't have to say it 30 different times in the same thread.

Wouldn't the inverse also be true?

If you are gonna buy something then just do so, you don't need to post about it in a thread on the interwebz.

Funny that...

As for the kit. The quality/detail/casting is fine, but I prefer tracked chimeras. the wheels could be useful on other conversions (ork trukks and battle wagons perhaps), but I'm not sure if they fill a niche as wheels can be obtained from a number of sources...

Chapterhouse wrote:No pictures from the front are available yet, im out of town and wont be back till next monday.

Our kit replaces the whole side tracks of the Chimera kit.

Thanks!

Just wanted to assemble my chimeras and hold the side tracks on with rubber bands until i can buy these for all of my tanks.

Alot easier to test army builds when i can use a chimera instead of a rhino hull.

CT GAMER wrote:

Fosner1703 wrote:
Chapterhouse is putting out a product. If you don't like it, you don't have to say it 30 different times in the same thread.

Wouldn't the inverse also be true?

If you are gonna buy something then just do so, you don't need to post about it in a thread on the interwebz.

Like +1.

I'm glad everyone likes my wheeled conversion kit. At the beginning Nick was quite skeptical, so it almost didn't happen. Just a quick shout out to Steelspectre, inmygravenimage, and the others who chimed in on my blog and who's intrest helped sell it.

Kanluwen wrote:

Sasori wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:I love how giving input on a model kit, when the creator is asking for input and reactions, is now apparently "trolling".

He said in your post he doesn't want to read your Trolling anywhere on the forum, which would imply that he dislikes a lot more of your posts than are just in this thread.


EDIT: Clarification

I don't know how many times I can stand reading that he is not going to buy it, nor care to read his trolling on any forum here on Dakka Dakka

Just looks to me like he doesn't want to read anything else from you.

That makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

What's that quote from Mauleed? "When you can make complete strangers on the Internet hate you, you know you're doing something magical."?

Indeed, being so offensive that numerous people consider the words that we type to be entirely without point or merit and full of nothing but arrogance is certainly a goal that we should all aspire towards. Of course, we could instead endeavor to couch our dialogue in civility and a sincere intention to discuss with one another, but that of course is the harder road to follow, and why attempt what is difficult when we can instead act like uncivilized children? I certainly can think of no valid reason...


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aka_mythos wrote:I'm glad everyone likes my wheeled conversion kit. At the beginning Nick was quite skeptical, so it almost didn't happen. Just a quick shout out to Steelspectre, inmygravenimage, and the others who chimed in on my blog and who's intrest helped sell it.

I think the kit is wonderful to be quite honest. It is not perfect, but considering how you were limited by the core chimera hull I believe you did an excellent job. By the way, what originally inspired you to attempt this?

aka_mythos wrote:I'm glad everyone likes my wheeled conversion kit. At the beginning Nick was quite skeptical, so it almost didn't happen. Just a quick shout out to Steelspectre, inmygravenimage, and the others who chimed in on my blog and who's intrest helped sell it.

I liked your wheeled kit so much I pestered Chapterhouse into selling me some of the development prototypes. I'm working on three right now. I have always liked the Chimera, and the wheeled kit does it justice. I would also be interested in a half track version.

Kanluwen wrote:

Sasori wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:I love how giving input on a model kit, when the creator is asking for input and reactions, is now apparently "trolling".

He said in your post he doesn't want to read your Trolling anywhere on the forum, which would imply that he dislikes a lot more of your posts than are just in this thread.


EDIT: Clarification

I don't know how many times I can stand reading that he is not going to buy it, nor care to read his trolling on any forum here on Dakka Dakka

Just looks to me like he doesn't want to read anything else from you.

That makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

What's that quote from Mauleed? "When you can make complete strangers on the Internet hate you, you know you're doing something magical."?

Anyways, back on topic...
Chapterhouse: you want an untapped market? Armor plates that 'lock' over the pockets on Cadian legs so people can make more veteran-y looking Guardsmen.

Do them to a high enough standard, completely devoid of insignia etc, and I'll buy enough for 130 Guardsmen.

Kan,

If you can shoot me an email - nick@chapterhousestudios.com and show me what your talking about, ill consider the project.

PM'd you while I'm thinking of it.

I'll try to get better reference pictures and email them to you.

Does anyone produce cadian-scale motorbikes? If not, CHS should! I see a lot of people wanting to make biker rough riders, and using oversized marine bikes to do it. I think it could be really cool to have both dirtbike and sports bike versions available, with a number of different legs to fit different guard regiments (plain pants, cadian pants and greatcoat pants)

On topic: I really like the majority of the wheeled chimera kit, although my personal preference would be for smaller wheels and a little bit of shock-absorber detail visible behind them. Although the big wheels are still awesome for the odd Orky project.

Ramshackle games do a variety of bikes.

whitedragon wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:

Fosner1703 wrote:
Chapterhouse is putting out a product. If you don't like it, you don't have to say it 30 different times in the same thread.

Wouldn't the inverse also be true?

If you are gonna buy something then just do so, you don't need to post about it in a thread on the interwebz.

Like +1.

The point is not whether people like or dislike things, it is whether people offer reasoned criticism and support for their view which might be of help to other users and the designer.

Trasvi wrote:Does anyone produce cadian-scale motorbikes? If not, CHS should! I see a lot of people wanting to make biker rough riders, and using oversized marine bikes to do it. I think it could be really cool to have both dirtbike and sports bike versions available, with a number of different legs to fit different guard regiments (plain pants, cadian pants and greatcoat pants)

That would be cool i agree.

Better, though, would be a Quad-bike like the Halo Mongoose scaled for a single IG guardsman to ride. Also, a 4WD buggy halfway between the Elysian Tauros and the Chimera in size (like a Halo Warthog) would (imo) be very popular.

There's the Steambike from MaxMini:

http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=98

Kanluwen wrote:
What's that quote from Mauleed? "When you can make complete strangers on the Internet hate you, you know you're doing something magical."?

You mean this one down here in my Sig?

NnnnnnnnnNNnnnn want.to.see.painted.pics

The Dreadnote wrote:There's the Steambike from MaxMini:

http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=98

While it's well enough sculpted, I think the whole feel of the models is WAY too "steampunkish" to mesh with 40K, even slightly.
Also, I do not think it's worth $27 (ish) US.

Eric

Platuan4th wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
What's that quote from Mauleed? "When you can make complete strangers on the Internet hate you, you know you're doing something magical."?

You mean this one down here in my Sig?

I knew someone had it, but didn't remember who.

Sorry Mauleed! Didn't mean to misquote you!

Kilkrazy wrote:

whitedragon wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:

Fosner1703 wrote:
Chapterhouse is putting out a product. If you don't like it, you don't have to say it 30 different times in the same thread.

Wouldn't the inverse also be true?

If you are gonna buy something then just do so, you don't need to post about it in a thread on the interwebz.

Like +1.

The point is not whether people like or dislike things, it is whether people offer reasoned criticism and support for their view which might be of help to other users and the designer.

I agree. That however was not what he said. He implied that he needed to ignore someone because they are offering criticism with too high a frequency.

I would argue that the person he is nerd-raging about and threatening to put on ignore has offered the most detailed reasons for his opinion then anyone in the thread. Thus his point was rather dramatic, yet uncalled for...

Back on subject, I had this waiting for me in my email this morning... I need to think of a good proper name for her.

Ma'mer-ee the scorpion gladiatrix?

The paint job is very nice. It seems to have toned down the place most people were emphasising.

Nice model, good paint job, too. Any chance we'll get to to see side shots? The perspective of the head on causes the arms and swords to block certain areas...

Still no hints of a Space Elf Spirit Warrior, eh? That's the model I'm looking forward to.

Welp, I'm sold. Need to get one of those not-Scorpion Exarchs. When do they go on sale?

Damn it Chapterhouse, I just receIved my Not-Seer (gorgeous sculpt, by the way, though I think I'm going to replace the head vanes. Very little flash or cleaning needed at all) and masked marine heads. Now you're going to make me pay shipping all over again.

I'm not sure if you got a new sculptor or new technique or what, but with this new space elf stuff it seems you have really stepped up your game; all the sculpts are clean and crisp and frankly beautiful. Can I just set up a subscription to all future not-Eldar releases?

Awesome model, please take more of my money as I'm not doing anything useful with it

Reduce the size of those tires, and attatch it to the hull with sponson steering, thereby giving the vehicle a reason to have wheels. The way that it is now,the vehicle cannot turn, there is no suspension work, nor is there a reason why those wheels would turn.

As to the scorpion, she's not bad. Better then the ...... er. whats her name.

I'd go in for those wheel conversion kits if they were built up and fit on a chimera kit, instead of just drawn and quartered and set up there like they were really attached.


The potential for wheeling your Balisks, Hellhound, and Chimera command vehicle variant are about there, but in thier current form, those wheels are a nice start, but not up to your better standards.

I want some, but not those particular wheels.

Gavin Thorne wrote:Nice model, good paint job, too. Any chance we'll get to to see side shots? The perspective of the head on causes the arms and swords to block certain areas...

Still no hints of a Space Elf Spirit Warrior, eh? That's the model I'm looking forward to.

Platuan4th wrote:Welp, I'm sold. Need to get one of those not-Scorpion Exarchs. When do they go on sale?

1-2 weeks when we get the ok from the legal people. Sorry about the Spirit-Guard, we still need a good concept on the "skin" of the models as we do not want to copy the existing ones.

Here is a side shot.

that's one cool model!

Agreed, you guys make some pretty neat shtuff. Now make some cool ass Necrons/Orks and I just might become a new customer

It paints up nicely and the boobage is considerably less obvious than on the green.

Kilkrazy wrote: the boobage is considerably less obvious than on the green.

That can fixed with good highlights.

That's actually a kinda nifty sculpt... too bad I don't play space elves in space.

Anyhow, I realize that this is a bit off the beaten trail, especially given all the recent space-elves in space, but is there any planned love for a loyalist, futuristic, not-vindicare solo-sniper some time in the near future, since the current sculpts kinda suck? Preferably some kind of believable action pose...

Very nice indeed, you guys have obviously upped your painting game significantly, but this latest sculpt also raises the CH bar IMO. The post is very dynamic, and from what I can tell, proportions are looking very good too!

Congrats, haters'gonna'hate, but hopefully this time you will at least get a concession the work looks good!

Grot 6 wrote:Reduce the size of those tires, and attatch it to the hull with sponson steering, thereby giving the vehicle a reason to have wheels. The way that it is now,the vehicle cannot turn, there is no suspension work, nor is there a reason why those wheels would turn.

They only need to turn in circles. Presuming the steering mechanisms are the same as what would be on a tank (why would you want a steering wheel on a tank?), the tank turns by having one set of wheels go forward while the other goes backwards.

The wheels on the tank go round and round,
round and round, round and round.
The wheels on the tank go round and round.
All through the battleground.



Eric

Yea... Ummmm, no. The only time they go in opposite directions is when the vehicle is stopped. Otherwise they slow down the side they want to turn towards. At high speed a tight turn puts an incredible amount of stress on the track unit and that's not good. So wheeled vehicles still turn some, or even all, of their wheels to change directions.

It would be about ten minutes work to put fake suspensions behind the forward wheels so I'm not worried about CH having to change the kits before release.

Re the Chimera wheels which some love and some dislike, would it be possible to also offer an alternate set of wheels with implied suspension (thus raising the chimera hull a few mm)? That would make most people happy, whichever wheels they prefer...

MagickalMemories wrote:

Grot 6 wrote:Reduce the size of those tires, and attatch it to the hull with sponson steering, thereby giving the vehicle a reason to have wheels. The way that it is now,the vehicle cannot turn, there is no suspension work, nor is there a reason why those wheels would turn.

They only need to turn in circles. Presuming the steering mechanisms are the same as what would be on a tank (why would you want a steering wheel on a tank?), the tank turns by having one set of wheels go forward while the other goes backwards.

The wheels on the tank go round and round,
round and round, round and round.
The wheels on the tank go round and round.
All through the battleground.



Eric

Put that Kool Aid down.

Steering like a tank? Uh no. Theres six wheels on that thing, no suspension, and the wheels are already too close together to do anything meaningful.
As well as being too close to the ground, The vehicle is a IED magnet asking for someone to post up a few vehicle studs to pop the beast up on its hull belly, like a fish out of water.

forget being funny. Those wheels have potential, but don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.

Current wheeled IFV trend to the small wheel big exposed suspension, but not all. The South African Rooikat is a fine platform and is a "big wheeler". Early armored cars such as the American M8 greyhound also had the big wheel lack of suspension look. Also, why raise the clearance for the wheeled version over the tracked version? ( Oh wait, better for blocking LOS, maybe I should rethink that) Tracks don't make tanks un high centerable, and the Chimera is not V-hulled. Comes down to personal preference. I don't need to see the suspension, cause it turns when I move it with my hands!! Guided by the will of the Emperor of course.

Grot 6 wrote:

MagickalMemories wrote:

Grot 6 wrote:Reduce the size of those tires, and attatch it to the hull with sponson steering, thereby giving the vehicle a reason to have wheels. The way that it is now,the vehicle cannot turn, there is no suspension work, nor is there a reason why those wheels would turn.

They only need to turn in circles. Presuming the steering mechanisms are the same as what would be on a tank (why would you want a steering wheel on a tank?), the tank turns by having one set of wheels go forward while the other goes backwards.

The wheels on the tank go round and round,
round and round, round and round.
The wheels on the tank go round and round.
All through the battleground.



Eric

Put that Kool Aid down.

Steering like a tank? Uh no. Theres six wheels on that thing, no suspension, and the wheels are already too close together to do anything meaningful.
As well as being too close to the ground, The vehicle is a IED magnet asking for someone to post up a few vehicle studs to pop the beast up on its hull belly, like a fish out of water.

forget being funny. Those wheels have potential, but don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.

Are we seriously debating the realism of a 40k vehicle and how poorly it would perform in actual warfare?

The not-a-Scorpion champion is rather nice, although Dolly Parton sized boobage doesn't really suit space elfs. I think the face is clearly female, so it's less necessary to emphasise the female anatomy. I'm that when GW eventually re-does the Scorpions in plastic they will include helmeltess heads, but this could be popular in the meantime.

On the not-a-Chimera conversion, as I understand it the nose-heavy look was deliberate? If so, it seems odd to include a feature like that, which will cause most people who see it to think that something's wrong with the kit. If it's taken from real life (and I'm not aware of any currentAFV's with such a pronounced forward tilt, although there were several WWII AFV's with this feature), then it's a bit inconsistent given that it's not otherwise intended to be a realistic vehicle. The wheels are very nicely done, but really would look better if they were a little smaller - even allowing for it being heroic scale. I do like the fact that the axles are very solid. Nothing worse than heavy resin pieces attached to puny axles.

Mate your work is really great, by they way when will the true scale sm kits be relessed id really like to get some. as i went on the web site this morning i could'nt find em. thanks chapter house for the wonderful work.

Suggestion for unit name: Black Widows. Or Mantis Warriors.

Sooo...any ETA on the wheeled kit? I'm kinda inpatient, as i need two of them

x2 My Griffons are here and I'd love to have wheels.

Excellent job on the Not a GW Scorpion Exarch champion.

I agrees she is "well rounded", not heroic.

EvilHamster wrote:Sooo...any ETA on the wheeled kit? I'm kinda inpatient, as i need two of them

Do we have any pics of the finished kit?

How is the SR conversion kit coming along? I'm going to need 2, hopefully sooner than later!

I should have the first shots of the painted Female Guard and Chimera here early next week (thank you for your patience).

I just received the first casting of the Storm Raven TRU-Scale kit. I have to dry fit it to a Storm Raven model to make sure everything came out ok, then Ill send it out for painting.

Here is a photo of the Storm Raven kit components to whet your appetite a bit. If all works out ok, it should retail for $15-16 (not too bad to run a Chibi-Hawk into a baby Thunderhawk).

Oh and here are some painted samples of the new weapons that we had made last year. I need better photos for the website, but you can see the SCAR and sniper rifles that will be available soon. (I am debating on selling them in a variety kit or in sprues of 5 same weapons.)

Looking good, I wondered when those weapons were going to happen.

Do one mix sprue and then sprues of 5 each. That way the people that only want to mix and match a few can and those of us that want to out fit an entire army the same can too.

Wow, LOVE the 28mm weapons!

Storm Raven kit sounds like a good idea. Would like to see a build up model when it's done.

Its from Hits_The_Spot's Trues scale work (ie, you can see it in his thread complete)

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Its from Hits_The_Spot's Trues scale work (ie, you can see it in his thread complete)

Which thread is that. I couldn't find it.

Look here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1080/306818.page#2619005

They are quite nice, and if (when?) GW makes Stormravens available to more chapters, I might just buy a few to use in making a better looking flying transport!

Chapterhouse wrote:Here is a photo of the Storm Raven kit components to whet your appetite a bit. If all works out ok, it should retail for $15-16 (not too bad to run a Chibi-Hawk into a baby Thunderhawk).

Well hello...

When can we get a pic of this thing built? If this fixes my one big problem with the Chibi-Hawk (that it has no rear) I will be getting one for Deathwatch.

H,

It's at the bottom of the page at the above link from Alpharius. It is an absolute ripper...

Padre^.

That's a scratch build though isn't it - and this kit is based around the concept - not the actual finished kit?

Or did I read it wrong?

I think you're reading it wrong - the kit from Hits_the_Spot/Chapterhouse turns the Stormraven into a better looking... Stormraven!

Alpharius wrote:http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1080/306818.page#2619005

*reads entire thread*

Ah! Ok, I'm all caught up now.

And speaking of caught up (?):


What ever happened to those Servo-Arms/Conversion Beamer bits that were sent for sculpting? Them and the Chibi-Hawk conversion kit are the things that grab my eyes (I have no real love for so-called 'True Scale' Marines... though the term 'Art Scale' is more fitting IMO).

First the wheeled transports now a Stormraven kit. Chapterhouse must want all my money.

DANG IT! Now I can't completely cannibalize my Stormraven. The fuselage extension really makes a difference.

I have plenty of love for the True Scale Marines and I await their appearance on the store proper, though I think they might have to wait until a certain something is all settled/finished?

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Alpharius wrote:http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1080/306818.page#2619005

*reads entire thread*

Ah! Ok, I'm all caught up now.

And speaking of caught up (?):


What ever happened to those Servo-Arms/Conversion Beamer bits that were sent for sculpting? Them and the Chibi-Hawk conversion kit are the things that grab my eyes (I have no real love for so-called 'True Scale' Marines... though the term 'Art Scale' is more fitting IMO).

Speaking of..

I also have in hand the first cast of the Techmarine Backpack and Conversion-beamer kits and the Gun-Halberds as well. I am making a point to have painted photos before I release them for public sale on the website. But here are the photos from the archives. Also you will see our first attempt at a scenic base.. seemed natural to do an alien sandworm on an oval monstrous creature base.

When will the Conversion Beamer/Techmarine Back Packs and Gun Halberds go on sale?

I am about to place another order, but I can wait a bit if they'll be available soon!

Would love to see what's been done with the Manshees, despite my dislike of eldar, the concept sketch looked awesome.

Get the Tech-Marine/Conversion Beamer and the Chibi-Hawk conversion kit up on your site, and you'll have my money.



Wait! Hold up... those backpacks. One has room for the Servo-Arm (fair enough), and the other has places for the Conversion Beamer and a Servo-Arm. The kit will come with two Servo-Arms, yes?

Would be awesome if you put hands on those Custodes blades------hands that matched a certain terminator arm box set that recently came out.......

Quick question for chapterhouse what are the chances of you selling the wheels for the chimera conversion separately alongside the full kit?

Ok, that Chibi-Hawk conversion kit is good enough to convince me to buy two Chibi-Hawks, so when are they out?

And what about the pylons under the wings that the turret weapons are placed on? Are they part of the kit? Can't see them in the test-cast pics above.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Ok, that Chibi-Hawk conversion kit is good enough to convince me to buy two Chibi-Hawks, so when are they out?

And what about the pylons under the wings that the turret weapons are placed on? Are they part of the kit? Can't see them in the test-cast pics above.

I thought you'd finally stopped buying any more GW models?

But yes, as for the stormraven conversion kit, I would also like to know a date and a tentative price. If both are within reason I'll put off putting my bird together.

Chapterhouse,

When will we see the backpack guns that hit the spot sculpted, as a part of that weapon pack you hinted at earlier?

btw, picking up a wheeled chimera for my arbites when it is out!

thanks.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Ok, that Chibi-Hawk conversion kit is good enough to convince me to buy two Chibi-Hawks, so when are they out?

Have you considered the big economic damage to GW by buying from Chapterhouse?

The more damage I can cause, the better.

CH CH , i have an amazing idea, if you guys love it can i have some free stuff? :'D

I am sure in the near future we will be able to sell the wheels seperate from the chimera kit, I do not know the price point yet.

The Storm Raven TRU-Scale kit will likely be in the $15-16 price range, I have the first cast in hand, so I expect to have a salable amount in late next week. I will likely sell these to you guys before they go on the site (Since I now prefer to have painted and assembled pictures for the website and that takes a couple of weeks).

The backpack weapon you are referring to has not been molded yet. I have them in hand but I am waiting on molding those since I already have some weapons coming out this next month.

Luna, you know I always love ideas!

Nick

Chapterhouse wrote:I am sure in the near future we will be able to sell the wheels seperate from the chimera kit, I do not know the price point yet.

The Storm Raven TRU-Scale kit will likely be in the $15-16 price range, I have the first cast in hand, so I expect to have a salable amount in late next week. I will likely sell these to you guys before they go on the site (Since I now prefer to have painted and assembled pictures for the website and that takes a couple of weeks).

The backpack weapon you are referring to has not been molded yet. I have them in hand but I am waiting on molding those since I already have some weapons coming out this next month.

Luna, you know I always love ideas!

Nick

Thanks for the quick answer i'll keep an eye out for them. Keep up the good work.

H.B.M.C. wrote:The more damage I can cause, the better.

Yes, bury GW with Chibihawk orders until they suffocate

Chapterhouse wrote:I am sure in the near future we will be able to sell the wheels seperate from the chimera kit, I do not know the price point yet.

The Storm Raven TRU-Scale kit will likely be in the $15-16 price range, I have the first cast in hand, so I expect to have a salable amount in late next week. I will likely sell these to you guys before they go on the site (Since I now prefer to have painted and assembled pictures for the website and that takes a couple of weeks).

The backpack weapon you are referring to has not been molded yet. I have them in hand but I am waiting on molding those since I already have some weapons coming out this next month.

Luna, you know I always love ideas!

Nick

Thanks for the response, Nick. Much appreciated

Chapterhouse wrote:I am sure in the near future we will be able to sell the wheels seperate from the chimera kit, I do not know the price point yet.

The Storm Raven TRU-Scale kit will likely be in the $15-16 price range, I have the first cast in hand, so I expect to have a salable amount in late next week. I will likely sell these to you guys before they go on the site (Since I now prefer to have painted and assembled pictures for the website and that takes a couple of weeks).

The backpack weapon you are referring to has not been molded yet. I have them in hand but I am waiting on molding those since I already have some weapons coming out this next month.

Luna, you know I always love ideas!

Nick

K dun dun dun , my idea is , when you make large conversion kits for vehicles for example , make the resin pieces have pre made slots for magnets.

Instant magnetizing ftw with almost no drilling and such!

An interesting idea, but there would have to be a general consensus on where to put them.

H.B.M.C. wrote:The more damage I can cause, the better.

Love your work...

Padre^.

PS and, no, not being sarcastic.

I will buy two of those Stormraven kits on the spot. Just ordered two Stormravens anyways. Let me know as soon as they are done, I will be the first customer!

veritechc wrote:I will buy two of those Stormraven kits on the spot. Just ordered two Stormravens anyways. Let me know as soon as they are done, I will be the first customer!

Only if I don't get there first. I haven't liked their other stuff but the SR kit will definitely get my money.

Chapterhouse wrote:I will likely sell these to you guys before they go on the site (Since I now prefer to have painted and assembled pictures for the website and that takes a couple of weeks).

I have seen elsewhere the concept of "digital painting" as a way to paint from the green, rather than wait for the first minis. As long as it is clearly disclaimed, I think that may be a way to shorten the wait.

- Piousman

Sooo...is the wheeled kit out yet? Because it's actually another week you know...just sayin'

Hi guys,

Here is the update,

I sent in the first casting of the Stormraven kit for painting today. I also have photos of the kit for everyone who is interested (see attached).

The Stormraven kit will be $17.50 for the set (email me for pre-order information). The Wheeled Chimera kit will be $13.50 per set (also see attached pictures). You can email me for pre-orders before they hit the site in a week or 2 at nick@chapterhousestudios.com.

Enjoy!

Now, that is brilliant!!!

Very impressed!!!

Will be in touch...

Padre^.

I just finished putting together a stormraven and damn it, I wish I had waited for that conversion kit. Great job Chapter house. Now if I could just get them to make me some exorcist chapter doors and icons!

Very nice, you guys are improving by leaps and bounds, keep up the good work!

Email for preorder sent. Two Stormraven kits and two Chimera kits for my Pre-Heresy Thousand Sons Army. I will post the the results here.

Chimera looks great now that it's all painted up. been meaning to get a few for my guard so I may just go with the wheel version

Another thing I would love to see for guard, is a conversion kit for the marine landspeeder to make it a buggy.. with guardsmen legs in the front seats & driver arms, so you can just stick a plastic cadian torso & head in, and then have a hatch on the back part with a gunner popping out to shoot a lascannon or whatever, and make it a counts-as sentinel. Folks have been doing conversions like that for a while but an actual kit that has all you need would really be kickass.

Now if I could just get them to make me some exorcist chapter doors and icons!

Consider that idea written up on my to-do list!

Pyriel- wrote:

Now if I could just get them to make me some exorcist chapter doors and icons!

Consider that idea written up on my to-do list!

Please do, as that symbol also doubles nicely as a Librarian icon!

The apc seems to be pointing down rather severely at the front, is this deliberate? Can the kit be modified to be more level by the buyer of the kit?

Any idea how the lengthened Stormraven compares to a Thunderhawk, sizewise?

Loving that Chimera kit. No way I can justify another IG army though...

That wheel kit for the chimera is brilliant. Would definitely pick it up if I played guard. It even looks generic enough to be used as an apc for several different systems.

I like the wheel kit
But the first set of wheels should be farther forward IMO.
Could just be me though

Now that's more like it!

Couple of very good quality releases there.

More hits, less misses! That's what we all want to see.

Kroothawk wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Ok, that Chibi-Hawk conversion kit is good enough to convince me to buy two Chibi-Hawks, so when are they out?

Have you considered the big economic damage to GW by buying from Chapterhouse?

Its terrible the way that conversion kit is causing him to buy 2 GW kits...


A perfect example of how GWs policy about things like Chapterhouse is nuts.

best ever comment to that horrible issue^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:best ever comment to that horrible issue^^

It never ceases to amaze me...they are getting a 2 Stormraven sale because the guy likes the conversion kit. Thats a $130+ sale they wouldnt have gotten otherwise. Yet they still see the conversion kit as hurting them.

i think this has to do with some horrible mutated ego issues of some GW managers...they don´t see future sells but think someone is fishing in their waters...instead of seeing that chaperhouse and other 3d parties bring their own fishfood for the big sales...if stupidity can get some peeps big jobs...why am i unemployed?^^

Maybe they should bring in some similar customer testimony if they go to court, surely it couldn't hurt?

This stuff looks SPECTACULAR, Nick.
If I had uses for either, I'd buy multiples.

Maybe one day, I'll take up BA, GK or IG.



Eric

Patiently awaiting for the legal "ok" the Scorpion Champion!

Conversion kits are just that, parts that make it necessary to buy the main model to convert it over, but,,,,,Oh wait, then that steps on the FW's toes which is a GW division. But wait, some of the things are not being worked on, I think it is about time GW realized that there are folks out there willing to make adaptation bitz and sell some royalty licenses rather than waste money on legal battles that then get passed to us via price increases!

DX3 wrote:Patiently awaiting for the legal "ok" the Scorpion Champion!

I'm not following you, DX3.....

I am a huge fan of this stuff you guys at Chapterhouse are putting out. Keep up the good work.

Mad4Minis wrote:

Viktor von Domm wrote:best ever comment to that horrible issue^^

It never ceases to amaze me...they are getting a 2 Stormraven sale because the guy likes the conversion kit. Thats a $130+ sale they wouldnt have gotten otherwise. Yet they still see the conversion kit as hurting them.

I purchased 2 Chimera kits, and a Hell Hound for hulls for my wheeled kits. I plan on getting at least five more Chimera kits for conversion for my Arbites once the Chimera kits hit the website. Now there is the new Stormraven mod......I have one stormraven for my Deathwatch unit to ride in, in friendly games, don't even have a BA army. However the true scale kit looks so cool I'm thinking of getting, you guess it, another stormraven.

7 Chimera and 1 Hellhound that I didn't need, plus a 2nd Stormraven that I can't use within official rules.
That's a win for GW.

Insurgency Walker wrote:I plan on getting at least five more Chimera kits for conversion for my Arbites once the Chimera kits hit the website.

Ah! Arbite vehicles! Of course.

If I didn't already own 12 Chimeras I'd consider it.

So froma rules perspective are people planning to keep playing these vehicles converted to wheeled vehicles as tracked ones?

Just curious.

hmm, the wheel chimera sounds like a great idea for arbites.. and give it a big vindicator-looking dozer blade too

I am hoping they allow regular marines access to the Storm Raven... In fact I am having the Studios model painted in Salamanders in hopes I can use it someday!

Later this week, I will show teaser shots of the Gun-Halberds and Conversion Beamer/Tech Backpack kit.

Dear Chapterhouse studio

I really like any company filling the glaring gaps in the GW range, no matter how morally iffy it is. If you do skull heads for space marines in packs of 5 (I know you have one already, but 5 alternate skullish ones) I might finally be able to finish my army. Oh and arms too hold those magnificent hammers you do aswell. And those torsos, the ones with extra armour coming up over their mouth, the most recent mk one. But those crested shoulder pads, one for a whole dollar?! bit steep to be honest

Your vehicle packs are ok. But the space wolf one is really strange looking, doesnt really look like a wolf skull, more like some sort of prehistoric rat thing. Also, your female heads for Imperial guard really let you down, glaringly bad quality.

All in all your products are alright. Wouldnt use them for display, but they are nice for tabletop quality.

To regurgitate something I tossed out before: simple interior inserts for Valkyries would be ace. Something along the lines of say, a medical version and a command & control version would be great.

I was originally going to get the wheeled kits for some Griffons, but with the SR kit coming at the same time I've decided to split my purchases and use it for a Salamander. Makes a lot of sense for the crazy Overcharged rule FW stuck the Sallie with and fits for wheels trying to move fast across open ground.

Hurting GW sales???

Do they have a "COGNITIVE DEFICIT" for every "Wheeled Chimera convertion kit sold,
We have to buy GW or Forge World kits to complete the model!

You know; Chimera, hellhound up comeing hydra ... from - GW ... maybe additional salamander, griffon, hydra ... and/or additional turrets from - FW
and think of the possibilities when/if GW releases the IG arttilery from the latest codex ... ? (Maybe, if, almost, some time, soon ??? )

GW will profit from this product not "Suffer financial hardship" - WTF

Go with the FLUFF "The gallexy is vast with numerous Forge planets"

It's all been said a billion times before boys, let's just stick to discussing the merits of CH's products and their info in this thread, and not devolve into yet another moral debate about their business practices.

If you must, there is a thread in discussions where you can go hog-wild on the topic, just not here please.

Love the "Bush Bumper" can you say Catachan army with Salamanders, griffons ...

comment about TRACKED VEHICLE
Amphibious yes deffinately

IDEAS anyone; how about "Bussel Baskets" for turrets and/or side of vehicle like the IDF does on thier AFV's

MajorTom11 wrote:It's all been said a billion times before boys, let's just stick to discussing the merits of CH's products and their info in this thread, and not devolve into yet another moral debate about their business practices.

If you must, there is a thread in discussions where you can go hog-wild on the topic, just not here please.

This is very good advice - please follow it!

CT GAMER wrote:So froma rules perspective are people planning to keep playing these vehicles converted to wheeled vehicles as tracked ones?

Just curious.

No difference these days, is there?

Really outstanding products gonna cut up my completed GK Chibi's just to add these conversions. I hope the company future success in all....areas.

CT GAMER wrote:So froma rules perspective are people planning to keep playing these vehicles converted to wheeled vehicles as tracked ones?

Just curious.

The rules don't differentiate between wheels or tracks. Although it will be easy to say "these wheeled chimera with the push bars and wheels count as having dozer blades." ( or would have been a great rough terrain mod from the 4th ed codex) Or maybe, "the sloped side armor and runflat tires designate these chimera as having extra armor." Myself, I'm just using them to add a desert flavor to Al'rahem's out flanking squad. Cause tracks get chewed up by sand. I also think they would look cool in blue with flashing light bars for Arbites to ride in. Also, as a side note its taking me about a 4 years to get over the fact that hell/devil/wolfs are fast, being loaded down with all that promethium and a larger engine to boot. Wheels equal FAST.

I have similar issues with some of my conversions, e.g. ork killa kans which have tracks but still count-as normal walker killa kans. Just remember to tell opponents before the game that 'this converted model counts-as the standard model for all rules purposes' - so long as the model looks good, and is obviously what it counts-as (correct size and weapons etc), very few opponents will complain, even in a tourney.

Its terrible the way that conversion kit is causing him to buy 2 GW kits... = SIGGED.

Padre^.

EDIT - Also, my pre-order payment just went in for the T-Hawk-style conversion. Very impressed...

Also, Toasted, was that meant to be a PM to Chapterhouse?

I was real excited about this project while it was in progress, but I must say I'm disappointed with the final product. That front wheel just looks wrong to me. Ah well, can't have everything.

The Raven kit is excellent.

Can I ask how much longer the stormraven kit makes the stormraven model?

It looks like a good few centimetres, like 3-4. Is that correct?

Update-

I have pre-ordered two Stormraven and one Chimera kit. I am going to use them for my Pre-Heresy Thousand Sons army.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/366996.page

I am going to use the Stormraven kits to make two Stormbirds as in the Thousand Sons novel. The Chimera is going to be used for the Prospero Spire Guard in the same army.

lunarman wrote:Can I ask how much longer the stormraven kit makes the stormraven model?

It looks like a good few centimetres, like 3-4. Is that correct?

Looking at the measurements of the pieces in the photo (I dont have the model in hand anymore) I would say more like 2.5-3 inches.

FYI, lots of PMs coming in on preordering the kits.

If you can shoot me an email at Nick@chapterhousestudios.com with the following info, itll speed things up for me.

Shipping name and address
Paypal email address
Bits and kits you want to order

Ill send you out an invoice once I see those emails, Im estimating shipping as early as late next week, hopefully no later then the week that.

Nick

Done and paid. Looking forward to unboxing my hawks and getting them built.

Breotan wrote:Done and paid. Looking forward to unboxing my hawks and getting them built.

Me too - can't wait to cut, dry fit, and start working out the conversion options!

Padre^.

Add me to the list

CHS, I LOVE your stuff, I really do. Do you have any goodies for Tau or Chaos planned? Heads in the style of Iron Warriors or Death Guard (LOVE the forgeworld Death Guard heads), as well as some "true scale" armored legs, both in 25mm and 40mm size? I have plenty of ideas to throw your way, just a bit frazzled at the moment XD


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Chapterhouse wrote:If someone has a picture of a bad quality item that I have shipped them, please let me know, I have heard nothing but praise from my customers and would like to believe that all the "bad quality" post are from non-customers as evidence has seemed to suggest. I have had to ship out replacement resin pieces that had a bubble or other casting mishaps, but those go off without a hitch (defective merchandise exchange as normal).

Fortunately, we have happy customers that vote with their wallets and keep us solvent vs. the harsh criticism we face at times.

Shoulda contacted youa while back abotu some jump packs, had some mis-alignment issues...I used 'em anyways though, made for some nice Raptors. I'll definitely try again someday!

I’d like to see CH tackle some CSM affiliated stuff as well, preferably post heresy CSM. I’d like to see CH design a CSM character kit similar to the Scorpion Warrior Champion kit, in the same sense that the model has alternate arms/heads. I’d also like to see CH design a Daemon Princess model (which could either represent a Slaanesh DP or Valkia the Bloody from WFB)

So when is the Storm Raven extension available for sale?

candy.man wrote:I’d like to see CH tackle some CSM affiliated stuff as well, preferably post heresy CSM. I’d like to see CH design a CSM character kit similar to the Scorpion Warrior Champion kit, in the same sense that the model has alternate arms/heads. I’d also like to see CH design a Daemon Princess model (which could either represent a Slaanesh DP or Valkia the Bloody from WFB)

Or perhaps a set of conversion parts for the plastic Daemon prince? Armored legs for those who liked 'em on the old one, different heads (preferably some helmeted ones), Iron Warriors hammer and jetpack, bloated belly, tentacles, etc.?

Man if I wasn't boycotting Gdub products I'd be all over that chimera wheeled conversion. Excellent job you did there Chapterhouse, keep up the good work!

I'm just wondering when the CH website is going to be updated with all the new stuff you guys have out and are working on?

Gannon wrote:Man if I wasn't boycotting Gdub products I'd be all over that chimera wheeled conversion. Excellent job you did there Chapterhouse, keep up the good work!

So, go to the Swap Shop or Bartertown and buy a NIB used one. GW won't be profitting from your purchase.


Eric

MagickalMemories wrote:

Gannon wrote:Man if I wasn't boycotting Gdub products I'd be all over that chimera wheeled conversion. Excellent job you did there Chapterhouse, keep up the good work!

So, go to the Swap Shop or Bartertown and buy a NIB used one. GW won't be profitting from your purchase.


Eric

But GW doesn't profit off CHS, even if he was to buy it straight from GW. This at least, appears to be the mindset of GW.

But to be on topic, that unchibi-Storm Raven makes me feel like actually buying a few for my marines.

DX3 wrote:Patiently awaiting for the legal "ok" the Scorpion Champion!

Hey so what's the deal with that Scorpion Championess? Waiting for the legal stuff to blow over or what? Cause I can definitely see one of those models in my squad of scorpions. Release date? Give us the 411!

You guys should try and gender bash all of the aspects IMO. I always imagined the "space elves" as a gender nuetral type of army. Get those elfy dames out of the kitchen, their rolling pins are needed on the grim battlefields of 40k.

-MightyG

So... is it next week yet? :(

Hi Guys,

I have 3 new items that will be going on the new site soon, but I want to make them available for sale through Dakka until then. I do have these in production already so they are ready to ship (in somewhat limited numbers until the orders start being processed).

As always you can contact me at nick@chapterhousestudios.com with the following information and I will send you an invoice to pay with paypal:
Name and Address
Paypal email address
Items you want to order

So without further delay.

First to be shown are some resin Gun-Halberds, these will probably be good for those Custodes conversions people want to do, or you can throw them on your Grey Knights. These are sold in sets of 5 for $6.00 each (trying to price these more affordable compared to some of the other gun-spears available out there).



What we have next is our version of a backpack mount for a conversion-beamer weapon, it also incorporates a servo arm. We had this sculpted so it is magnet friendly as well as easy to glue in the position that best suits your techmarines pose.
This conversion kit will sell for $9.50.



And our last new kit is a new Land Raider Door replacement kit. Personally I think they would look good on any Land Raider as often humans refer to the Space Marines as Angels of Death. Then again these may strike a fancy with Dark Angel Players in particular. This four piece set sells for $11.50.



I will be putting these as well as the "Wheeled Chimera conversion kit" and "TRU-Scale Storm Raven conversion kit" next week, so you guys get first dibs .

Thank you for your continual support!

Nick - Chapterhouse Studios LLC

Excellent work there Nick!

Wow. I must say, those Death Angel doors are beautiful. Will you offer those two side-doors separately? I'm willing to buy a brand new overpriced Rhino just to paint those doors.

The Conversion Beamer is also great! It has a nice balance between weird-scifi-gun and something plausible.

All that stuff looks really nice. Land Raider doors look great.

To regurgitate something I tossed out before: simple interior inserts for Valkyries would be ace. Something along the lines of say, a medical version and a command & control version would be great.

When/if the time allows for it then yes, the idea is a good one.

LR angel door pictures:
Before the inevitable storm of comments about the right door angel looking "weird" hit I thought to clarify that the door in question is not set properly for the picture.
The wing is loose and is supposed to be tight fitted right next to the body and is the ammo belt is upside down since it´s end is supposed to go behind the big wing.

Absolutionis wrote:Wow. I must say, those Death Angel doors are beautiful. Will you offer those two side-doors separately? I'm willing to buy a brand new overpriced Rhino just to paint those doors.

The Conversion Beamer is also great! It has a nice balance between weird-scifi-gun and something plausible.

Sorry, probably wont be selling those doors with out the front hatches. I have nightmares on having a ton of part b but no part a to sell if we do that (its happened before).

Thanks for the kind words guys.


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Pyriel- wrote:

To regurgitate something I tossed out before: simple interior inserts for Valkyries would be ace. Something along the lines of say, a medical version and a command & control version would be great.

When/if the time allows for it then yes, the idea is a good one.

LR angel door pictures:
Before the inevitable storm of comments about the right door angel looking "weird" hit I thought to clarify that the door in question is not set properly for the picture.
The wing is loose and is supposed to be tight fitted right next to the body and is the ammo belt is upside down since it´s end is supposed to go behind the big wing.

Or people can glue it however they want

The Death Angel doors would rock out nicely on the Stormraven with your kit IMO. Very nicely done. Great products. These guys produce some great stuff. Just check out the Salamander Termies I painted up on the gallery using their hammers and shields.

Sold!!!! Those doors are perfect for a progect I am doing_.

Nice Angel of Death doors. I play DA and I love the quality look to them.

-MightyG

The Conversion beamer and death angel doors are a cut above your normal work, CHS. Well done.

Those doors are very impressive. The huge wings make for a really striking piece. How much do they stick out?

The land raider doors look really good, but any chance of some love for csm?

man, pricey backpack! >.<

Those doors are very impressive. The huge wings make for a really striking piece. How much do they stick out?

Just the wing tips pretty much.
You can actually cut them of and set the tips on the hull and the rest on the door for that subtle line across the sculpt that show the thing is "openable".

The land raider doors look really good, but any chance of some love for csm?

Oh certainly.
Just collecting/thinking up concept ideas first.

Valhallan42nd wrote:The Conversion beamer and death angel doors are a cut above your normal work, CHS. Well done.

Seconded. Although I'm still wondering when those TS scale kits are going to hit the market....