Lasgun or splinter rifle

A chainsword attached to my...

...Richard.

I would love a infernus pistol. The power of the sun at my fingertips!

I would like twin power claws with built on bolters ... so "technically" one weapon ... *looks innocently*

Upgrade our MARCOS (marine special forces) units with lightning claws.... Rah.

the talon of Horus wouldnt be bad.

lasgun

For some reason I always wanted a chainfist. There is just something about the mental image of that thing eating its way through anything that seems really cool. At age 41, I cannot help making the noise I imagine it makes when I attack with it.

Unquestionably a Lightening Claw for close, and an Assault cannon for ranged. Also Terminator armor so I can carry both of those around.
dakkadakkadakka! schwing schwing! Hehehe

Guaiwu wrote:Unquestionably a Lightening Claw for close, and an Assault cannon for ranged. Also Terminator armor so I can carry both of those around.
dakkadakkadakka! schwing schwing! Hehehe

+1. What else could you ever want?

Other than maybe a huge-ass spaceship

For armor, incubus armor, for close combat a huskblade (who wouldn't like to kill the enemy with a touch?) and a blast pistol (thats a very nice building there... boom)

Chuck Norris wrote:For armor, incubus armor, for close combat a huskblade (who wouldn't like to kill the enemy with a touch?) and a blast pistol (thats a very nice building there... boom)

OMG, its chuck norris!

Hotshot Lasgun.

mr.ultramarine wrote: Hotshot Lasgun.

Why so? You`d have to replace the barrel after like, 100 shots, is it worth it?

EagleArk wrote:

mr.ultramarine wrote: Hotshot Lasgun.

Why so? You`d have to replace the barrel after like, 100 shots, is it worth it?

If you're up against 100 modern-day tanks and you need to win, then yes, a hot-shot Lasgun on full power is worth it.

a sonic blaster for my choons

vindicare assassin simple

Power weapon. Nice, simple, deadly. And no forcefields to save anyone yet!

I want the "trusty" old Shokk attack gun, what weapon is more fun then that, or an attack squig.

Tau Pulse Carbine

Tau Plasma Rifie

nathan2195 wrote:Tau Plasma Rifie

Thats a Battlesuit weapon.....how would you mount that to you?

straped onto the head

Thats one way of culling the herd

Lascannon, big boom with recharge

The Guardsmen inside me say "lasgun"

Maybe a Multi-melta

well it's a tough choice between something really large or something powerful- but because of my desire to utterly obliterate large creatures in hand to hand combat I'd have to say the good old power fist


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black templar wrote:vindicare assassin simple

the Exitus rifle or the Exitus Pistol?

A force weapon would suffice just so I could watch it shine with its awesome power.

Emperor Titan.

Wardragoon wrote:Lascannon, big boom with recharge

Cool thing about the lascannon is you could probably reverse engineer one with today's technology (we are quite close to a real one now, most of the problem is based on size and efficiency), so you would quickly have a bunch of them, and a whole lot of other major advances. Actually you could do this with a lasgun too.

yippee blinky flashlights

Most definitely a Thunder Hammer. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail...

A meltagun would be pretty neat too - nothing like an oversized hairdryer that melts holes in walls.

Mekis wrote:well it's a tough choice between something really large or something powerful- but because of my desire to utterly obliterate large creatures in hand to hand combat I'd have to say the good old power fist


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black templar wrote:vindicare assassin simple

the Exitus rifle or the Exitus Pistol?

Just a good old vindicare assassin a living weapon can sit there for days then they always get their target. Flawless

On the recoil issue: Remember Newton's 3rd law, and conservation of momentum. If you are firing a projectile, there will be recoil. There's no way around this, without re-writing physics from scratch. Even a lasrifile, if it fires a laser, will have recoil. The recoil momentum will be equal to the energy of the projected photon divided by c.

On the main topic:
I have no real need for a weapon. I've never found myself fighting hostile daemons, or even boring old humans. So, it's offensive firepower means nothing to me. All that matters is either it's non-weapon uses, or how advanced it is technologically speaking, so that I can sell it.

So, I'd either vote for a Vyper (if that counts as a weapon), or a D-cannon, to unlock warp travel.

Grakmar wrote:Even a lasrifile, if it fires a laser, will have recoil. The recoil momentum will be equal to the energy of the projected photon divided by c.

Some books explained lasgun recoil by the air in front of and within the barrel rapidly expanding due to heat as the weapon was fired, in turn giving the gun a slight push back. In combination with the usual suspension of disbelief, this explanation was enough for me.

OnTopic: I'm on the fence. Lasgun would seem most useful, but I was always a sucker for style over substance. Master-crafted Boltgun or a Blessed Power Sword for me. Too bad I'd need a suit of power armour to properly make use of both.

Lynata wrote:

Grakmar wrote:Even a lasrifile, if it fires a laser, will have recoil. The recoil momentum will be equal to the energy of the projected photon divided by c.

Some books explained lasgun recoil by the air in front of and within the barrel rapidly expanding due to heat as the weapon was fired, in turn giving the gun a slight push back. In combination with the usual suspension of disbelief, this explanation was enough for me.

OnTopic: I'm on the fence. Lasgun would seem most useful, but I was always a sucker for style over substance. Master-crafted Boltgun or a Blessed Power Sword for me. Too bad I'd need a suit of power armour to properly make use of both.

Photons are completely weightless so it won't have recoil in the traditional sense. However, since a small number will fire in the wrong direction (quantum physics) there may be a small, inperceptibly and almost unmeasurable push in all other directions. Also, it would most likely be soundless.
The recoil on the boltgun you want would blow your arm off!

Old school graviton gun. Daw, widdle heretic stucked and can't get up when big bad Wulfe mockses him! Poor widdle heretic dunno walkies no more!

That or a basic shoota. If Grog no shoot them, Grog beat with gun!

Guaiwu wrote:

Lynata wrote:

Grakmar wrote:Even a lasrifile, if it fires a laser, will have recoil. The recoil momentum will be equal to the energy of the projected photon divided by c.

Some books explained lasgun recoil by the air in front of and within the barrel rapidly expanding due to heat as the weapon was fired, in turn giving the gun a slight push back. In combination with the usual suspension of disbelief, this explanation was enough for me.

OnTopic: I'm on the fence. Lasgun would seem most useful, but I was always a sucker for style over substance. Master-crafted Boltgun or a Blessed Power Sword for me. Too bad I'd need a suit of power armour to properly make use of both.

Photons are completely weightless so it won't have recoil in the traditional sense. However, since a small number will fire in the wrong direction (quantum physics) there may be a small, inperceptibly and almost unmeasurable push in all other directions. Also, it would most likely be soundless.
The recoil on the boltgun you want would blow your arm off!

Photons do have no mass. But, they move at the speed of light, so the high-school level physics equation p=mv no longer applies.

In it's place, after some relativistic calculations, you'll find that p = h / lambda

h being Planck's constant (6.63*10^-34 Js) and lambda being the wavelength of the photon. If this "laser" really does have the power to blow up people's arms, the wavelength is going to have to be pretty small. My very rough guess is something like 10^-15 m.

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon

Guaiwu wrote:The recoil on the boltgun you want would blow your arm off!

I doubt that. When the Russians employ a caliber .90 shotgun that fires solid steel slugs capable of destroying an engine block at a distance of 100 meters, I'd say that a gun whose projectiles have their own rocket motor taking over acceleration once the round has left the barrel is much easier to bear. Especially since the weight of a boltgun would further negate the kick (laws of physics - the heavier a gun the more energy you need to move it), and given that future technology has likely made significant advances concerning internal recoil absorption.

It's the weight of the gun I would have trouble with!

The barrel is quite small (diameter of 19mm), but there's so much stuff wrapped around it ...

Grakmar wrote:

Guaiwu wrote:

Lynata wrote:

Grakmar wrote:Even a lasrifile, if it fires a laser, will have recoil. The recoil momentum will be equal to the energy of the projected photon divided by c.

Some books explained lasgun recoil by the air in front of and within the barrel rapidly expanding due to heat as the weapon was fired, in turn giving the gun a slight push back. In combination with the usual suspension of disbelief, this explanation was enough for me.

OnTopic: I'm on the fence. Lasgun would seem most useful, but I was always a sucker for style over substance. Master-crafted Boltgun or a Blessed Power Sword for me. Too bad I'd need a suit of power armour to properly make use of both.

Photons are completely weightless so it won't have recoil in the traditional sense. However, since a small number will fire in the wrong direction (quantum physics) there may be a small, inperceptibly and almost unmeasurable push in all other directions. Also, it would most likely be soundless.
The recoil on the boltgun you want would blow your arm off!

Photons do have no mass. But, they move at the speed of light, so the high-school level physics equation p=mv no longer applies.

In it's place, after some relativistic calculations, you'll find that p = h / lambda

h being Planck's constant (6.63*10^-34 Js) and lambda being the wavelength of the photon. If this "laser" really does have the power to blow up people's arms, the wavelength is going to have to be pretty small. My very rough guess is something like 10^-15 m.

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon

I was trying not to go all the way there but yes, that is the equation you would use, it can be used to calculate pressures against things like a solar sail etc. But really, a laser is not a mass driver, its a heat transfer system, the real thing that does the damage is the amount of heat driving into a small area at such a fast rate. As I said before it would provide an ever so slight recoil, un-noticeable to any human.
While we are on GW's poor science, while a barrel would probably be needed to create the laser beam it would not be needed to fire it, as barrels are the accuracy producers in convention mass projectiles, lasers do not need this so the idea that the lascannons barrel has to be replaced every 10 shots due to the beam warping it are preposterous, as basically the barrel is the gun it would mean replacing the whole thing.

Guaiwu wrote:[...] so the idea that the lascannons barrel has to be replaced every 10 shots due to the beam warping it are preposterous, as basically the barrel is the gun it would mean replacing the whole thing.

Well, at some point the beam has to be focused. I don't think it's difficult to assume that the further you go to the muzzle, the hotter it gets (in stages, depending on how exactly the beam is created).

Lasers do need cooling: http://www.rinitech.com/applications_lasercooling.asp
A weapon lacking it will suffer material degradation (though it's likely not just the metallic barrel but also any lenses it would contain).

As per the books, hellguns (or Hot-Shot Lasguns as they are called now) have internal cooling, explaining their increased size. For some reason, though, the sniper long-las lacks it. Hence the barrel replacing schpiel.

And what's with the talk about photons - isn't air expansion a much better "excuse"? I mean, it's like the gun would enact a sudden pressure release, almost like a tiny explosion in front of the muzzle, every time it is fired. Not much, but likely noticeable.

Lynata wrote:

Guaiwu wrote:[...] so the idea that the lascannons barrel has to be replaced every 10 shots due to the beam warping it are preposterous, as basically the barrel is the gun it would mean replacing the whole thing.

Well, at some point the beam has to be focused. I don't think it's difficult to assume that the further you go to the muzzle, the hotter it gets (in stages, depending on how exactly the beam is created).

Lasers do need cooling: http://www.rinitech.com/applications_lasercooling.asp
A weapon lacking it will suffer material degradation (though it's likely not just the metallic barrel but also any lenses it would contain).

As per the books, hellguns (or Hot-Shot Lasguns as they are called now) have internal cooling, explaining their increased size. For some reason, though, the sniper long-las lacks it. Hence the barrel replacing schpiel.

And the idea is to use a lens of high purity silicon as this will allow for maximum beam flow through with limited heat build up. What they have in the 41st millennium to do this job who knows. In fact the focusing would need to be much better that modern day lasers that are highly inefficient at only a 10% energy efficiency, some of the waste is light but most is heat.

Lynata wrote:And what's with the talk about photons - isn't air expansion a much better "excuse"? I mean, it's like the gun would enact a sudden pressure release, almost like a tiny explosion in front of the muzzle, every time it is fired. Not much, but likely noticeable.

Yes, air expansion is a better excuse, I suppose it could end up like a lightening bolt, fusing nitrogen and combusting oxygen in its path (better not be on a world with methane atmosphere when firing though), So I guess there may be a pop as it comes out the front of the barrel, however I still doubt there would be noticeable recoil.

I'm gonna go with a demolisher cannon. Sure, I'd have to mount it, but who cares? It would DEMOLISH everyone!

Guaiwu wrote:And the idea is to use a lens of high purity silicon as this will allow for maximum beam flow through with limited heat build up. What they have in the 41st millennium to do this job who knows. In fact the focusing would need to be much better that modern day lasers that are highly inefficient at only a 10% energy efficiency, some of the waste is light but most is heat.

Hmm, yeah - well, sci-fi. I don't mind specifics as long as the basics sound reasonable. The only "silly tech" in 40k I can recall off the top of my helmet are teleporters, but aside from them, for all its silliness, this setting has remarkably believable technology (relatively speaking, given that we're talking science fiction). It's definitively closer to Star Wars than Star Trek, so to say.

Guaiwu wrote:Yes, air expansion is a better excuse, I suppose it could end up like a lightening bolt [...]

Aye, that'd also explain the "cracking" sound often described in the canon and some novels. From what I remember, las rounds were even of a bright blue in most depictions (Final Liberation, the FFG RPG, etc) - only DoW showed them in the traditional "sci-fi laser red".

Also, if you've ever watched films of high-energy laser testing, there is a sort of crackling sound when the laser fires.

Anvildude wrote:Also, if you've ever watched films of high-energy laser testing, there is a sort of crackling sound when the laser fires.

I watched one recently but it didn't show the firing it showed the target (a boat over a mile away, it set the motor on fire), it was a proof of concept test. This tech is pretty close (as in within 10 years) to being fitted to ships for defence.

I'm disappointed none of you seem too keen on the melee weapons of 40k beyond the basic power sword...

Mekis wrote:I'm disappointed none of you seem too keen on the melee weapons of 40k beyond the basic power sword...

Lightening claw was my pick, always liked the wolverine type weapon.

vortex grenade launcher

Hey, I was the one waaay back that said Big Choppa. If only because I could actually make and wield one. Heck, retrofit a motorized tree-pruner!

Lifta-droppa.

That never gets old.

Nobody want a vindicare assassin????

Eversor assasin, genocidal one man army

C'tan phase sword.

I scratched you, now DIE!!!

What about the talon of horus? a powerclaw/fist and a bolter of some sort all in one!

I want an EMP cannon, preferably rifle sized, for pesky neighbors and all sorts of solutions to other people with their distracting gizmos.

Twin Bolt Pistols, with chainsword as a melee weapon. I'm just going for an awesomeness factor here

Power fist and Combi-Flamer

Gauss Flayer, that is assuming a human can use it, otherwise does a green tide count as a weapon, I want as many of those loyal to me as possible!

Kaptin Badrukks Da rippa.. of course, i would need a lead-lined coat when using it, because the primary ammunition is brain cancer...

Chainaxe all the way. Those things are badass

Ranged weapon is more difficult, but I'd probably go in for a nice pulse rifle plasma technology, but safe!

I have read the first 2 pages and so far everyone loves the big guns...

now let's be honest here. the OP only said what gun would you want, he never said anything about the tools needed to maintain said gun (although we can still assume we have at least a single crate of ammunition).

So taking that into account, I'd say I'd go with a lasgun equipped with a bayonet. sure, laugh all you want, bitches. but don't come crying to me when your nova cannon stops working because you fried the power cells to ashes rom overheating, while my lasgun is in tip top shape because I can use my reguler tools I use with my other guns to fix the lasgun as well .

as for a melee weapon I'd go with a chainsword backed up by at least a dozen of teeth tracks, as eventually the teeth WILL dull, and might get stuck while cutting through someone's ribcage

also the lasgun may be a laser pointer when used against aliens and compared to said alien tech, but take into account the books too. Lasguns on the tabletop are only at the light power setting. there is also the hotshot setting which will vaporise any human. and remember, there's not exactly a lot of aliens on earth either, is there, ?

Bonesabre!

Impaler cannon!!!! Because I can steer the shots with my mind and punch holes in everything

A mastercrafted Archeotech Laspistol. Come at me brahs

Give me a thunder hammer and the wonders i will do to the galaxy with it.............

A Plaugbringer (DW)

Actually I think Ill have to go with a standard Land Raider, Lascannons, so hypothetically they recharge, I assume they are run on a reactor with an AI managing everything, so I think it would be pretty BA, that and a tank that can take an orbital strike would be really sellable to the military

hellgun but I would relly like a poower fist too......

Prolly a Frost Blade and a plasma pistol.

Excavator the manly version of the chainsword and a autocannon.
LOL

kustom-weapen that can shoot everything you want

Power sword... wait seeing how this is a weapon... A REAVER TITAN!! MWAHAHA. "Have some of this!" Boom!!

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I was drinking one night, and painting 40k, and I thought it'd be cool to have a chainsaw sword. Then, I thought about it a bit and realized that a chainsaw pretty much IS a chainsaw sword.

So I'd have to go with a plasma pistol, just because.

A bolt-pistol and a power-weapon of some kind
and a lasgun on my back.

If that fails, a Naval Warship would be perty

Nightfall wrote:Power sword... wait seeing how this is a weapon... A REAVER TITAN!! MWAHAHA. "Have some of this!" Boom!!

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Emperor Titan.......even better death to all. No enemy left standing

An assault cannon, with the attached tactical dreadnought armor please

Gauss Cannon, or possibly a Rail rifle.

Deathstrike missile with a chimera chassis

Psychic powers FTW!

Nothing even compares to psychic powers.

im2randomghgh wrote:Psychic powers FTW!

Nothing even compares to psychic powers.

Being an Untouchable does.

Just give me a dreadnought that i can go in and out of and i'll be happy

Nemesis Force Halberd.... fingers snap, wound explodes!

for me just an avenger shuriken catapult please

Hey, who doesn't want to throw around monomolecular dics at a rate of several hundreds a second?

Vortex Grenade...if I have to go...I'm taking everyone with me!

Power armour and a power fist but that might be two...

A plain simple bolter WITH STERNGUARD AMMO!

Pair of lightning claws! because they are just cool like that

Does a tank count as a weapon for the purpose of this discussion?

Dear Emperor, I have been such a good boy this year, I have purged many heretics. Please may I have one of the following for Emperormas?

(In no particular order)
* Thunder Hammer
* Havoc Autocannon
* Astartes Lascannon
* Meltagun
* Gorechild
* Banshee power sword (specifically Banshee, they're elegant)


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im2randomghgh wrote:Psychic powers FTW!

Nothing even compares to psychic powers.

Chosen of Khorne?

not sure if im allowed this one... a space marine. a living weapon. and by far the coolest weapon i can think of.

im2randomghgh wrote:Psychic powers FTW!

Nothing even compares to psychic powers.

Well, depends on your LD. You might just lose a Wound to the Warp.

If I was to have any 1 weapon, it would be a bolt pistol with 1 shot. Becuase then I could shoot myself, because I would be surrounded by zombies.

Or Tyranids. and then you could TAKE ONE OF THE DAMN ******* DOWN WITH YOU!!!

Or just an Assault Cannon. Because ripping things to shreds is awesome.

The trigger for an orbital bombardment would be really cool!

A bone sword.

Drachnyen

DeathReaper wrote:The trigger for an orbital bombardment would be really cool!

Just don't call it on yourself

I would prefer an IG grenade Launcher. It's always served me well in games, and It's kinda fun to crater the ground and make people go "BOOM!"

Simple

A Thunderhammer...
Fire arms just usefull for killing things so not interesting at all.

But a thunderhammer...Move annoying stuff... smash annoying stuff...crush annoying stuff... and when the day is over a nice mantelpiece.

Hmm...

How about an assault cannon that shoots lightsabers?

EDIT: Wait, they do that anyway...

Chuck Norris.

POWER FIST!!! So i can pimp slap everyone into the next century plus i never have to reload