happygolucky wrote:

Farseer Petriel wrote:Most of topics in WH40k discussion are about Space Marines? How can this be?

Its because of the smurfs...

Because the least populated army in the galaxy is the most populated army on the tabletop.

When I saw Ultrasmurfs for the first time in Winter Assault, I was glad to see non-red Space Marines - blue colour seemed ingenious to me. But when I saw Ultrasmurfs in over 9000 sources... I'VE SWORN TO THROW THEM ALL INTO THE WARP!!!

Here is what really annoys me in 40k:

I am annoyed by Eldar because they think they are better then everyone else.
I am annoyed by Orks because they want to fight with everyone.
I am annoyed by Tyranids because they want to eat everything.
I am annoyed by Chaos because they want to consume everything.
I am annoyed by Necrons because they want to kill everything.
I am annoyed by Dark Eldar because they want to rape and torture everyone.
I am annoyed by Tau because they want to control everyone.

And that is why I say: everyone and glory to Humanity. Let all other races die out because they are such jerks.

I am annoyed at the Humans, because they refuse to admit they are inferior to everyone else.
I am annoyed at the at the Orks, because they refuse to admit defeat.
I am annoyed at the Tyranids, because they choice of cuisine is inferior.
I am annoyed at Chaos, because they are on the side against everything else, including themselves.
I am annoyed at the Necrons, because the sleeping beauty better damned well keep sleeping.
I am annoyed at the Dark Eldar, because they refuse to abandon their misguided ways.
I am annoyed at the Tau, because they had to look so different that it was annoying disguising our farseers as Ethereals.

And this is why I say: GAK everyone and long live the Eldar! Our choice of clothes, our superior physique, and our perfect cuisine are not to be underestimated!

And here is what really annoys me in 40k:
I am annoyed on Imperials because they want to control everyone.
I am annoyed on SM because they are pathos super-soldier-monks.
I am annoyed on Ultrasmurfs because they are ultra-pathos ultra-super-ultra-soldier-ultra-monk.
I am annoyed on Sisters of Battle because they want to burn everyone in the name of the Emperor.
I am annoyed on Ecclesiarchy and Lectitio Divinatus because they made everybody in the IoM mad religious fanatics.
I am annoyed on High Lords of Terra because they rule humans in the name of the Emperor.
I am annoyed on Adeptus Mechanicus because they don't want and can't develop human technology further.

And I'm not annoyed on humanity. I'm just annoyed on how it's represented in 40k.



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Mahtamori wrote:I am annoyed at the Humans, because they refuse to admit they are inferior to everyone else.
I am annoyed at the at the Orks, because they refuse to admit defeat.
I am annoyed at the Tyranids, because they choice of cuisine is inferior.
I am annoyed at Chaos, because they are on the side against everything else, including themselves.
I am annoyed at the Necrons, because the sleeping beauty better damned well keep sleeping.
I am annoyed at the Dark Eldar, because they refuse to abandon their misguided ways.
I am annoyed at the Tau, because they had to look so different that it was annoying disguising our farseers as Ethereals.

And this is why I say: GAK everyone and long live the Eldar! Our choice of clothes, our superior physique, and our perfect cuisine are not to be underestimated!

As an Eldar, I agree with you, and let Eldanesh be with us and Eldar rule the Humanity!

I am annoyed at the Imperium, for doing everything they can to screw up the emperor's plans.
I am annoyed at Orks, because mine always die.
I am annoyed at Chaos, for the same reason as Orks.
I am annoyed at Tyranids, because they aren't as good as they should be.
I am annoyed at Tau, because no new codex
I am annoyed at Necrons, for the same reason as Tau.
I am annoyed at Eldar, for being huge douchebags.
I am annoyed at Dark Eldar, because I feel like it.

IS THERE NO ARMY FOR ME?!

Tau annoy me, because of their stupid philosofy, jackass leaders and just annoying tactics. Also i hate the line "for the greater good", yeah greater good my ass!

And Necrons also annoy me a little. They are portrayed in the fluff as being too unstoppable and in gameplay wont stay down.

But I love Eldar and SM:s

Tau and ultramarines i hate them with a passion.

Brother Coa wrote:Here is what really annoys me in 40k:

I am annoyed by Eldar because they think they are better then everyone else.
I am annoyed by Orks because they want to fight with everyone.
I am annoyed by Tyranids because they want to eat everything.
I am annoyed by Chaos because they want to consume everything.
I am annoyed by Necrons because they want to kill everything.
I am annoyed by Dark Eldar because they want to rape and torture everyone.
I am annoyed by Tau because they want to control everyone.

And that is why I say: everyone and glory to Humanity. Let all other races die out because they are such jerks.

Got to pull for the home team

Farseer Petriel wrote:And here is what really annoys me in 40k:
I am annoyed on Imperials because they want to control everyone.
I am annoyed on SM because they are pathos super-soldier-monks.
I am annoyed on Ultrasmurfs because they are ultra-pathos ultra-super-ultra-soldier-ultra-monk.
I am annoyed on Sisters of Battle because they want to burn everyone in the name of the Emperor.
I am annoyed on Ecclesiarchy and Lectitio Divinatus because they made everybody in the IoM mad religious fanatics.
I am annoyed on High Lords of Terra because they rule humans in the name of the Emperor.
I am annoyed on Adeptus Mechanicus because they don't want and can't develop human technology further.

And I'm not annoyed on humanity. I'm just annoyed on how it's represented in 40k.

Sadly, after 38.000 years of constant danger of getting killed, blowed up, nomed, atom crushed, possessed, twisted, tortured, raped... what did you expect? A bunch of hippies with flowers and rainbows?
In a galaxy were nobody gives a damn for us or universal peace ( Tau are not included, they want t rule over everyone else ) why would we care?


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Phiasco II wrote:
Got to pull for the home team

Somebody must to think about future of our race.

In your future, only death awaits.

The time of Mankind is over.

The time of the C'tan is now.

Molten Butter wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:Tau are in fact mix of communism, far east anime and Japan's techological mastery.

Japan doesn't have "technological mastery," nor do the Tau. The Tau aren't wizards, they're just far more willing to innovate than the Adeptus Mechanicus and far more willing to distribute technologies into other purposes. The Tau technology is actually worse than Imperium tech in some of the most important areas.

Also, with tau, they are obviously not discovering technologies in the exact same order the Imperium did. They are actually more advanced in certain technologies, and much, much less advanced in others.

Bwuhahahahah

*twirls liquid metal moustache evilly while tying the golden throne to the railroad tracks...*

He's right, you know

*ducks the inevitable Coa barrage, donning a rainhat*

Brother Coa wrote:Sadly, after 38.000 years of constant danger of getting killed, blowed up, nomed, atom crushed, possessed, twisted, tortured, raped... what did you expect? A bunch of hippies with flowers and rainbows?
In a galaxy were nobody gives a damn for us or universal peace ( Tau are not included, they want t rule over everyone else ) why would we care?

I expect to see free worthy people capable to live without stupid dogma and superstition.
And I don't see something bad for humans in joining the Tau. It's said that Gue'vesa live better than Imperials.
P.S. And no Ultrasmurfs!

Brother Coa wrote:Here is what really annoys me in 40k:

I am annoyed by Eldar because they think they are better then everyone else.
I am annoyed by Orks because they want to fight with everyone.
I am annoyed by Tyranids because they want to eat everything.
I am annoyed by Chaos because they want to consume everything.
I am annoyed by Necrons because they want to kill everything.
I am annoyed by Dark Eldar because they want to rape and torture everyone.
I am annoyed by Tau because they want to control everyone.

Except eating (and maybe raping) part all those perfectly fit IoM.

Farseer Petriel wrote:
I expect to see free worthy people capable to live without stupid dogma and superstition.

After we lost so much technology? Just imagine what would happened to our race now if some large EMP devastate all our electricity beyond reparing... We would return to medival age. Imperials are doing their best but you how hard is to set Humanity back to technological level of DAoT with constantly being attacking and betrayed?

And I don't see something bad for humans in joining the Tau. It's said that Gue'vesa live better than Imperials.

What Humans in Tau Empire are treated liek second class citizens, there are even rumors thta they are sterilized. And Gue'vesa solders in Tau Empire are used like cannon fodder, same like the Guard ( but at least Guard is fighting for it's own RACE ).

P.S. And no Ultrasmurfs!

Ultramarines are one of the finest chapters out there, without them there would be no Imperium ( and not because they are M.W. chosen, but becvause they provided large number of marines after H.H. to stabilize the Imperium ).

Brother Coa wrote:

Farseer Petriel wrote:
I expect to see free worthy people capable to live without stupid dogma and superstition.

After we lost so much technology? Just imagine what would happened to our race now if some large EMP devastate all our electricity beyond reparing... We would return to medival age. Imperials are doing their best but you how hard is to set Humanity back to technological level of DAoT with constantly being attacking and betrayed?

Pretty friggin' hard. You'd have to destroy every semi-intelligent person who could ever learn anything about technology, and the people who already know how to do those sorts of things. Also, not "our" race. It's fictional.

Brother Coa wrote:

Farseer Petriel wrote:And I don't see something bad for humans in joining the Tau. It's said that Gue'vesa live better than Imperials.

What Humans in Tau Empire are treated liek second class citizens, there are even rumors thta they are sterilized. And Gue'vesa solders in Tau Empire are used like cannon fodder, same like the Guard ( but at least Guard is fighting for it's own RACE ).

Those that are conquered, not those that willingly join. And who said they aren't fighting for their own race? They just understand how stagnant and insane the Imperium's become, and are willing to join as human representatives in a multi-cultural galactic federation.

Brother Coa wrote:

Farseer Petriel wrote:P.S. And no Ultrasmurfs!

Ultramarines are one of the finest chapters out there, without them there would be no Imperium ( and not because they are M.W. chosen, but becvause they provided large number of marines after H.H. to stabilize the Imperium ).

Ultramarines are Mary Sue to the fullest, we all know this.

KilroyKiljoy wrote:
Pretty friggin' hard. You'd have to destroy every semi-intelligent person who could ever learn anything about technology, and the people who already know how to do those sorts of things. Also, not "our" race. It's fictional.

Right....and we are all chickens and cows and pigs
Also, all aliens want to enslave, kill, murder us - that's the point.

KilroyKiljoy wrote:
Those that are conquered, not those that willingly join. And who said they aren't fighting for their own race? They just understand how stagnant and insane the Imperium's become, and are willing to join as human representatives in a multi-cultural galactic federation.

No, those are also the Humans who WILLINGLY join the empire ( source - Deathwatch book ). They have been deluded and played + they are traitors to their own race ( and you to sound like one by the way... ).

KilroyKiljoy wrote:
Ultramarines are Mary Sue to the fullest, we all know this.

Wrong, REAL Ultramraines are bad-asses. Stooping 2 Tyranid invasions ( I don't count Kraken since Eldar stooped that one ). And like Dan Abnett said - they are the true example of Space Marine. Brave, Proud, Intelligent, Civil and Loyal warrior. Just because M.W. made them ultra Mary Sues doesn't mean the people must hate them - I so remember the real Ultramaries from the age of awesome, before M.W. stuff...

Can't we put it into the forum rules that bringing up Tau and sterilization is subject to immediate limited suspension? It's like a Valborg bonfire made of empty gasoline tins waiting to go wrong...

Mahtamori wrote:Can't we put it into the forum rules that bringing up Tau and sterilization is subject to immediate limited suspension? It's like a Valborg bonfire made of empty gasoline tins waiting to go wrong...

Haha, nicely put.

Mahtamori wrote:Can't we put it into the forum rules that bringing up Tau and sterilization is subject to immediate limited suspension? It's like a Valborg bonfire made of empty gasoline tins waiting to go wrong...

Then what would be the point of this forum if not answering the speculated rumors of facts?

Brother Coa wrote:

KilroyKiljoy wrote:
Pretty friggin' hard. You'd have to destroy every semi-intelligent person who could ever learn anything about technology, and the people who already know how to do those sorts of things. Also, not "our" race. It's fictional.

Right....and we are all chickens and cows and pigs
Also, all aliens want to enslave, kill, murder us - that's the point.

Some of us are.....Lol jokes.
No, they really, really don't. That's a common misconception. Not every alien race is hostile. A lot are, but many are simply small races that could trade for technology and resources.

KilroyKiljoy wrote:
Those that are conquered, not those that willingly join. And who said they aren't fighting for their own race? They just understand how stagnant and insane the Imperium's become, and are willing to join as human representatives in a multi-cultural galactic federation.

No, those are also the Humans who WILLINGLY join the empire ( source - Deathwatch book ). They have been deluded and played + they are traitors to their own race ( and you to sound like one by the way... ).

Not this gak again. Get it into your fricking head, Warhammer 40k is fictional. No one is a traitor to their race, as the humans in 40k do not exist.

KilroyKiljoy wrote:
Ultramarines are Mary Sue to the fullest, we all know this.

Wrong, REAL Ultramraines are bad-asses. Stooping 2 Tyranid invasions ( I don't count Kraken since Eldar stooped that one ). And like Dan Abnett said - they are the true example of Space Marine. Brave, Proud, Intelligent, Civil and Loyal warrior. Just because M.W. made them ultra Mary Sues doesn't mean the people must hate them - I so remember the real Ultramaries from the age of awesome, before M.W. stuff...

So, if you don't Kraken, it's really only one, and again, they had a stupid amount of help. Although the rest I agree with. I like to forget most of what Matt Ward has said about them, remembering them from the Index Astartes age rather than the over the top idiocy the codex has.

Brother Coa wrote:

KilroyKiljoy wrote:
Pretty friggin' hard. You'd have to destroy every semi-intelligent person who could ever learn anything about technology, and the people who already know how to do those sorts of things. Also, not "our" race. It's fictional.

Right....and we are all chickens and cows and pigs
Also, all aliens want to enslave, kill, murder us - that's the point.

What KillroyKiljoy was trying to explain is that Warhammer 40k isn't real, the people in it aren't real, and above all else, we are not the people in it. We are the humans in a fictional realm just as much as we are chickens and cows and pigs.

iproxtaco wrote:Not this gak again. Get it into your fricking head, Warhammer 40k is fictional. No one is a traitor to their race, as the humans in 40k do not exist.

You are pretty quick to stick your nose into other people business.... and what are the Imperials in 40k then?
Right, they are Terrans... and Terrans are not Humans...I get it.
And you got angry a lot of time because of fictional universe...


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LoneLictor wrote:
What KillroyKiljoy was trying to explain is that Warhammer 40k isn't real, the people in it aren't real, and above all else, we are not the people in it. We are the humans in a fictional realm just as much as we are chickens and cows and pigs.

So? 40k maybe be fictional but we all like it. It's our love toward it that makes us real to us true fans, don't know about you...
You are just implementing that Humans in 40k are not Humans at all...funny their homeworld is Earth, and they originated from the same solar system as we are, and they even look like us...
Let me help you - they are we in the distant future.

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Not this gak again. Get it into your fricking head, Warhammer 40k is fictional. No one is a traitor to their race, as the humans in 40k do not exist.

You are pretty quick to stick your nose into other people business.... and what are the Imperials in 40k then?
Right, they are Terrans... and Terrans are not Humans...I get it.
And you got angry a lot of time because of fictional universe...

They're Imperials, actually. I look around, I see no Space Marines, no Imperial Guard, no Chaos... seems pretty much a fictional race to me. Oh, sure, they're your basic human... but that doesn't mean they're in any way like us. There's more to a man and more to humanity than what they look like. Also don't see people growing extra arms left right and centre... kind of a silly view point that us = Imperium and so Imperium = awesomesauce, no?

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LoneLictor wrote:
What KillroyKiljoy was trying to explain is that Warhammer 40k isn't real, the people in it aren't real, and above all else, we are not the people in it. We are the humans in a fictional realm just as much as we are chickens and cows and pigs.

So? 40k maybe be fictional but we all like it. It's our love toward it that makes us real to us true fans, don't know about you...
You are just implementing that Humans in 40k are not Humans at all...funny their homeworld is Earth, and they originated from the same solar system as we are, and they even look like us...
Let me help you - they are we in the distant future.

I believe you mean 'implying'... and sure we like it, doesn't mean we have to like the Imperium or be traitors to the species, does it? I mean, sure, they come from 'Terra', but that sure as hell doesn't mean these made-up spacers are related to us in any way

And I agree: not this gak again.


Now me, I just cannot stand Spehss Muhreens... the fluff, the gameplay, whatever... they're just nonsensical to such an extreme that I cannot even begin to take them seriously, and have been known to break into bouts of hysterical laughter at a mention of them but then, that seems to just be me...

@ Coa

Pot, Kettle..

If you are ranting about the shared illusion of 40K fluff on a net forum it's everyone's business, not just yours. If someone were to spam your pm or email account with their opinions then it would be an intrusion into your business.

You have accused people of having posters of executions on their walls and plotting the downfall of the human race (and quite clearly weren't joking ) before, because they don't subscribe to your viewpoint that the IOM is the greatest thing since sliced flaan

You've called people racists, racial traitors and so on, in increasingly rabid rants about how humanity needs defending from the xeno threat etc.

40K is a somewhat poorly written GAME, though one with a degree in awesome from Nottingham University Everything in the book, novels and so on is fiction. None of it is real.

It's a pity that RPG's have to actually print the difference between reality and fantasy inside their book, for this kind of occasion I think White Wolf makes a point of including a disclaimer that they take no responsibility for people acting as if their stuff was reality. I'll have to dig up my old Werewolf book to quote it

The IOM doesn't exist. None of the Xeno races exist either as far as we know. Holy Terra is not Earth, though if we get supremely unlucky it might oneday be


In short, chill. The fluff is so full of holes that there is no point in getting bent out of shape about it. GIving yourself a coronary makes your day miserable. Been there, done that

You are right...still nobody understands me....

No matter, 40k brings a joy in my life since I was age 14 and it is still not old

And yes, people that openly ranting about fall of Human race are traitors in my eyes and that's my personal opinion.


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Ascalam wrote:
The IOM doesn't exist. None of the Xeno races exist either as far as we know. Holy Terra is not Earth, though if we get supremely unlucky it might oneday be

Oh what a joyfull news...
And not real part...how do you then explain national affiliation: Terran in my personal I.D?

Beregond wrote:They're Imperials, actually. I look around, I see no Space Marines, no Imperial Guard, no Chaos... seems pretty much a fictional race to me. Oh, sure, they're your basic human... but that doesn't mean they're in any way like us. There's more to a man and more to humanity than what they look like. Also don't see people growing extra arms left right and centre... kind of a silly view point that us = Imperium and so Imperium = awesomesauce, no?

If the most developed nations today resemble any faction in 40K, it's the Tau. We have similar views on technology and military, and we also have a near-complete disbelief of "magic". Most of the successful governments are secular or near-secular, unlike the Imperium.

Maybe Games Workshop is run by misanthropists?

We also resemble the Squats, but they're kinda dead. :( Now that I think about it, the Tau are probably GW's attempt at bringing back the Squats... Battlesuits? Short guys with technological innovation? A small, reasonable faction in contrast to the titanic-but-dogmatic Imperium? Yep, this post just went there.

Brother Coa wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:
What KillroyKiljoy was trying to explain is that Warhammer 40k isn't real, the people in it aren't real, and above all else, we are not the people in it. We are the humans in a fictional realm just as much as we are chickens and cows and pigs.

So? 40k maybe be fictional but we all like it. It's our love toward it that makes us real to us true fans, don't know about you...
You are just implementing that Humans in 40k are not Humans at all...funny their homeworld is Earth, and they originated from the same solar system as we are, and they even look like us...
Let me help you - they are we in the distant future.

No, they are not us in the distant future. Chaos is not real. The Tau are not real. Tyranids are not real. The Emperor is not real. We will never be them and they will never be us. Ever.

It isn't treason or betraying your face to support one fictional group of people over another (that is closer to what we are in real life) because they aren't real and never will be!

LoneLictor wrote:
No, they are not us in the distant future. Chaos is not real. The Tau are not real. Tyranids are not real. The Emperor is not real. We will never be them and they will never be us. Ever.

Who knows what our future will be? Maybe we will be worse then the Imperium, maybe better who knows... Main point is that peopel once called submarines, airplanes, laser, spaceships science fiction and "not real" and what we have today? Witch reminds me...

It isn't treason or betraying your face to support one fictional group of people over another (that is closer to what we are in real life) because they aren't real and never will be!

...science fiction is not that far from reality, and this has been proven.

Brother Coa wrote:

And I don't see something bad for humans in joining the Tau. It's said that Gue'vesa live better than Imperials.

What Humans in Tau Empire are treated liek second class citizens, there are even rumors thta they are sterilized. And Gue'vesa solders in Tau Empire are used like cannon fodder, same like the Guard ( but at least Guard is fighting for it's own RACE ).

The Gue'vesa live much, much better than humans in the IoM. They aren't treated as well as the Tau, it doesn't mean they are treated poorly. Plus, they get their own worlds, so there's that. A human society away from the IoM is the dream of just about every non-adeptus human.

The sterilization thing is hinted at in one of several non-canon endings to a video game. It REALLY doesn't matter.

Actually, the tau don't use anything as canon fodder, ever (except on the TT, but that is really human players so...) check out this quote from codex: Tau Empire.

When they absolutely must storm defenses, the attack will be led by auxilliary troops such as the kroot in a variation of kauyon. The assault troops are not used as pawns-the Tau way of war does not recognize the concept of expendable troops. Instead, their safety is entrusted to the troops providing covering fire who must identify and kill enemy firebases before the assault force suffers harm

They are just used as storm troops, due to being stronger than tau, and tougher than kroot (though not as strong as kroot).

Brother Coa wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:
No, they are not us in the distant future. Chaos is not real. The Tau are not real. Tyranids are not real. The Emperor is not real. We will never be them and they will never be us. Ever.

Who knows what our future will be? Maybe we will be worse then the Imperium, maybe better who knows... Main point is that peopel once called submarines, airplanes, laser, spaceships science fiction and "not real" and what we have today? Witch reminds me...

It isn't treason or betraying your face to support one fictional group of people over another (that is closer to what we are in real life) because they aren't real and never will be!

...science fiction is not that far from reality, and this has been proven.

Warhammer 40k was purposefully over and the top and insane! According to it Daemon Princes have been around since the Middle Ages! Just because some Sci Fi is close to reality does not mean all Sci Fi is! All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.

Just ask any GW employee, "Do you think Warhammer 40k is accurate about what will happen in the future?" and listen to their answer.

Brother Coa wrote:...science fiction is not that far from reality, and this has been proven.

Science fiction is an abstract term used to subjectively describe a genre of literature. It cannot be "proven" to be close to reality.

Some science fiction is close to reality, but most is not. A lot of science fiction didn't predict technological advances that would come in the future; in 2001: A Space Odyssey, for example, we were completely wrong about how computers would advance. But some elements in science fiction (Like the Monolith in the before-mentioned 2001) were never designed to be realistic in the first place, and most of Warhammer 40k fits under this category.

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Not this gak again. Get it into your fricking head, Warhammer 40k is fictional. No one is a traitor to their race, as the humans in 40k do not exist.

You are pretty quick to stick your nose into other people business.... and what are the Imperials in 40k then?
Right, they are Terrans... and Terrans are not Humans...I get it.
And you got angry a lot of time because of fictional universe...


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LoneLictor wrote:
What KillroyKiljoy was trying to explain is that Warhammer 40k isn't real, the people in it aren't real, and above all else, we are not the people in it. We are the humans in a fictional realm just as much as we are chickens and cows and pigs.

So? 40k maybe be fictional but we all like it. It's our love toward it that makes us real to us true fans, don't know about you...
You are just implementing that Humans in 40k are not Humans at all...funny their homeworld is Earth, and they originated from the same solar system as we are, and they even look like us...
Let me help you - they are we in the distant future.

Whatever, it doesn't stop it being fictional. Calling someone a 'traitor' because they say negative things about something that doesn't exist is stupid. Talk all you want about how its not my business, but you've went and posted this ludicrousness on an open forum, expect ridicule.

iproxtaco wrote:
Whatever, it doesn't stop it being fictional. Calling someone a 'traitor' because they say negative things about something that doesn't exist is stupid. Talk all you want about how its not my business, but you've went and posted this ludicrousness on an open forum, expect ridicule.

And what is your point? Like you said, this is open forum so I can say whatever I want. Here to me, Warhammer 40k is real as real world. So that makes your arguments invaid


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im2randomghgh wrote:
Actually, the tau don't use anything as canon fodder, ever (except on the TT, but that is really human players so...) check out this quote from codex: Tau Empire.

Let's ask Kroot how they feel about this sentence
( but to be fair Tau saved Kroot from Orks so all Kroot own their lives to Tau )

Molten Butter wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:...science fiction is not that far from reality, and this has been proven.

Science fiction is an abstract term used to subjectively describe a genre of literature. It cannot be "proven" to be close to reality.

Some science fiction is close to reality, but most is not. A lot of science fiction didn't predict technological advances that would come in the future; in 2001: A Space Odyssey, for example, we were completely wrong about how computers would advance. But some elements in science fiction (Like the Monolith in the before-mentioned 2001) were never designed to be realistic in the first place, and most of Warhammer 40k fits under this category.

It is worth noting though, that tesla, who lived in the 1800's, predicted the internet. Not sure how relevant it is, but I LIKE TESLA.

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f30/einstein-vs-tesla-good-article-explaining-573.html

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:
Whatever, it doesn't stop it being fictional. Calling someone a 'traitor' because they say negative things about something that doesn't exist is stupid. Talk all you want about how its not my business, but you've went and posted this ludicrousness on an open forum, expect ridicule.

And what is your point?

My point? I think you should stop this bull-gak about how people are 'traitors' because of their opinions on something that doesn't exist. Get back to reality.

im2randomghgh wrote:
Actually, the tau don't use anything as canon fodder, ever (except on the TT, but that is really human players so...) check out this quote from codex: Tau Empire.

Let's ask Kroot how they feel about this sentence
( but to be fair Tau saved Kroot from Orks so all Kroot own their lives to Tau )

They don't use Kroot as cannon-fodder. Despite their savage persona, Kroot aren't stupid.

iproxtaco wrote:My point? I think you should stop this bull-gak about how people are 'traitors' because their opinons on something that doesn't exist.

See above.

They don't use Kroot as cannon-fodder. Despite their savage persona, Kroot aren't stupid.

Tell that to Kroot that died at suicidal attack at Nimbosa to allow Tau to gun down Guardsman...

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:My point? I think you should stop this bull-gak about how people are 'traitors' because their opinons on something that doesn't exist.

See above.

They don't use Kroot as cannon-fodder. Despite their savage persona, Kroot aren't stupid.

Tell that to Kroot that died at suicidal attack at Nimbosa to allow Tau to gun down Guardsman...

That's called martyrdom.

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:My point? I think you should stop this bull-gak about how people are 'traitors' because their opinons on something that doesn't exist.

See above.

Lol. Traitor to your race Coa, you don't mind the Tau in truth!

They don't use Kroot as cannon-fodder. Despite their savage persona, Kroot aren't stupid.

Tell that to Kroot that died at suicidal attack at Nimbosa to allow Tau to gun down Guardsman...

Yeah, no, I'm almost entirely certain this is an extreme manipulation of the truth.

Coa's statements are so insane he's either trolling or hopelessly deluding himself.

It is probably better not to respond to him.

Maybe. But he's a fraternizer with Xenos races, Xenos races that are enemies of the Imperium and the Emperor. To the penitent engine with him!

im2randomghgh wrote:
It is worth noting though, that tesla, who lived in the 1800's, predicted the internet. Not sure how relevant it is, but I LIKE TESLA.

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f30/einstein-vs-tesla-good-article-explaining-573.html

The man had the right idea, free energy for all. Of course Humans are Humans and individuals always look to benefit from majority.

im2randomghgh wrote:It is worth noting though, that tesla, who lived in the 1800's, predicted the internet. Not sure how relevant it is, but I LIKE TESLA.

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f30/einstein-vs-tesla-good-article-explaining-573.html

Wow, I think I lost brain cells reading that.

God, conspiracy theories are stupid. Where's the original article? I want to see his sources (Or lack of them).

iproxtaco wrote:Maybe. But he's a fraternizer with Xenos races, Xenos races that are enemies of the Imperium and the Emperor. To the penitent engine with him!

Asari, Turians, Salarians, Quarians, Vulkans, Andorians, Azgard and others are not part of 40k. And they are ok. ( in short - they are not jerks )

I'd like to add something to my original post, even though Brother Coa is purposefully avoiding it and will probably avoid this as well.

All of the things Brother Coa listed where inventions inside Sci Universes, not the Sci Fi Universes themselves. You said, "Warhammer 40k will probably be true because an invention listed in a different book was later made in real life." The Warhammer 40k setting it not an invention; its a setting.

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Maybe. But he's a fraternizer with Xenos races, Xenos races that are enemies of the Imperium and the Emperor. To the penitent engine with him!

Asari, Turians, Salarians, Quarians, Vulkans, Andorians, Azgard and others are not part of 40k. And they are ok. ( in short - they are not jerks )

You're a fraternizer with Xenos scum, and should be treated as if you were one. Where's my servitor creation kit?

Hey, I'm only going by what you say on how we should act as enthusiasts of 40k.

LoneLictor wrote:
All of the things Brother Coa listed where inventions inside Sci Universes, not the Sci Fi Universes themselves. You said, "Warhammer 40k will probably be true because an invention listed in a different book was later made in real life." The Warhammer 40k setting it not an invention; its a setting.

True, and there are many stories written in 18'th and 19'th century about 21'st century and a way of living. And 70% of them were true about today.

Brother Coa wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:
All of the things Brother Coa listed where inventions inside Sci Universes, not the Sci Fi Universes themselves. You said, "Warhammer 40k will probably be true because an invention listed in a different book was later made in real life." The Warhammer 40k setting it not an invention; its a setting.

True, and there are many stories written in 18'th and 19'th century about 21'st century and a way of living. And 70% of them were true about today.

At least try to back up your statements. You can't, since that's made up, but it would be funny to see you try.

iproxtaco wrote:
You're a fraternizer with Xenos scum, and should be treated as if you were one. Where's my servitor creation kit?

Hey, I'm only going by what you say on how we should act as enthusiasts of 40k.

They are ok because they are reasonable and they are not trying to wipe us out.


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iproxtaco wrote:
At least try to back up your statements. You can't, since that's made up, but it would be funny to see you try.

Why should I when I am right?

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:
You're a fraternizer with Xenos scum, and should be treated as if you were one. Where's my servitor creation kit?

Hey, I'm only going by what you say on how we should act as enthusiasts of 40k.

They are ok because they are reasonable and they are not trying to wipe us out.

But the Eldar should be destroyed, so should the Tau. Contradiction much?

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:
You're a fraternizer with Xenos scum, and should be treated as if you were one. Where's my servitor creation kit?

Hey, I'm only going by what you say on how we should act as enthusiasts of 40k.

They are ok because they are reasonable and they are not trying to wipe us out.

Tau and Eldar say hi.

EDIT: DARN!

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:
At least try to back up your statements. You can't, since that's made up, but it would be funny to see you try.

Why should I when I am right?

Well, you aren't. Until you prove you are. Again though, you made that last statement up, but it would be funny to see you try.

Brother Coa wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:
No, they are not us in the distant future. Chaos is not real. The Tau are not real. Tyranids are not real. The Emperor is not real. We will never be them and they will never be us. Ever.

Who knows what our future will be? Maybe we will be worse then the Imperium, maybe better who knows... Main point is that peopel once called submarines, airplanes, laser, spaceships science fiction and "not real" and what we have today? Witch reminds me...

It isn't treason or betraying your face to support one fictional group of people over another (that is closer to what we are in real life) because they aren't real and never will be!

...science fiction is not that far from reality, and this has been proven.

If you seriously still believe this, please, go see a Psychiatrist.

iproxtaco wrote:
Well, you aren't. Until you prove you are. Again though, you made that last statement up, but it would be funny to see you try.

I won't because I am and I certainly doesn't have to prove it to you.


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KilroyKiljoy wrote:
If you seriously still believe this, please, go see a Psychiatrist.

When I see Star Trek I see us in some 250 - 500 years.

Brother Coa wrote:True, and there are many stories written in 18'th and 19'th century about 21'st century and a way of living. And 70% of them were true about today.

95% of statistics are made up on the spot as well.

Molten Butter wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:It is worth noting though, that tesla, who lived in the 1800's, predicted the internet. Not sure how relevant it is, but I LIKE TESLA.

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f30/einstein-vs-tesla-good-article-explaining-573.html

Wow, I think I lost brain cells reading that.

God, conspiracy theories are stupid. Where's the original article? I want to see his sources (Or lack of them).

Tesla's theories are actually being taken quite seriously because:

1. The LHC proved that lightspeed is NOT the maximum attainable speed. E=/=MC2

2. All his experiments were based upon the premise that ether exists. They were almost all successful.

3. Physicists have "discovered" something called dark matter which is suspiciously a lot like Ether.

Okay Coa, I am completely serious when I say this; please, get help. It isn't healthy to believe in things like Chaos and Warhammer 40k becoming real. I'm sorry, but it isn't. Even the creators of the game acknowledge them as completely fictional.

LoneLictor wrote:Okay Coa, I am completely serious when I say this; please, get help. It isn't healthy to believe in things like Chaos and Warhammer 40k becoming real. I'm sorry, but it isn't. Even the creators of the game acknowledge them as completely fictional.

I am just trolling you guys If I tough that 40k is real I would be in madhouse, not going into 3'rd year of college.
And my traitor thing is just making jokes with people, but seems some people are to serious here...

Brother Coa wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:Okay Coa, I am completely serious when I say this; please, get help. It isn't healthy to believe in things like Chaos and Warhammer 40k becoming real. I'm sorry, but it isn't. Even the creators of the game acknowledge them as completely fictional.

I am just trolling you guys If I tough that 40k is real I would be in madhouse, not going into 3'rd year of college.
And my traitor thing is just making jokes with people, but seems some people are to serious here...

Okay, good! At first I suspected it was trolling, but after you said it so much I actually started to believe you seriously believed it! I will admit that you fooled me.

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:
Well, you aren't. Until you prove you are. Again though, you made that last statement up, but it would be funny to see you try.

I won't because I am and I certainly doesn't have to prove it to you.


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KilroyKiljoy wrote:
If you seriously still believe this, please, go see a Psychiatrist.

When I see Star Trek I see us in some 250 - 500 years.

The chances of us leaving our solar system, ever, are so amazingly slim that even with every bit of money on earth funding it we wouldn't be able to do that even in thousands of years. Unless we have an infinitely renewable energy source aboard ships (like plasma reactors, or some way to harness energy from the cold), artificial gravity technology (CAN'T exist), Enormous amounts of redundancy aboard ships and the ability to construct entire colonies on hostile worlds (even Mars, which is fairly hospitable as far as rocks in space go) within a generation, the ability to create an indefinate amount of food aboard ships and about a million other things I am forgetting. Minus even one of those, that would be impossible. Moon Colony is a maybe though.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18547_6-reasons-space-travel-will-always-suck.html

im2randomghgh wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:
Well, you aren't. Until you prove you are. Again though, you made that last statement up, but it would be funny to see you try.

I won't because I am and I certainly doesn't have to prove it to you.


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KilroyKiljoy wrote:
If you seriously still believe this, please, go see a Psychiatrist.

When I see Star Trek I see us in some 250 - 500 years.

The chances of us leaving our solar system, ever, are so amazingly slim that even with every bit of money on earth funding it we wouldn't be able to do that even in thousands of years. Unless we have an infinitely renewable energy source aboard ships (like plasma reactors, or some way to harness energy from the cold), artificial gravity technology (CAN'T exist), Enormous amounts of redundancy aboard ships and the ability to construct entire colonies on hostile worlds (even Mars, which is fairly hospitable as far as rocks in space go) within a generation, the ability to create an indefinate amount of food aboard ships and about a million other things I am forgetting. Minus even one of those, that would be impossible. Moon Colony is a maybe though.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18547_6-reasons-space-travel-will-always-suck.html

It's ok, he was just making really bad jokes.

im2randomghgh wrote:
The chances of us leaving our solar system, ever, are so amazingly slim that even with every bit of money on earth funding it we wouldn't be able to do that even in thousands of years. Unless we have an infinitely renewable energy source aboard ships (like plasma reactors, or some way to harness energy from the cold), artificial gravity technology (CAN'T exist), Enormous amounts of redundancy aboard ships and the ability to construct entire colonies on hostile worlds (even Mars, which is fairly hospitable as far as rocks in space go) within a generation, the ability to create an indefinate amount of food aboard ships and about a million other things I am forgetting. Minus even one of those, that would be impossible. Moon Colony is a maybe though.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18547_6-reasons-space-travel-will-always-suck.html

Sadly you are right. With our today's rocket technology we would need at least 2 year mission to Mars.
But I am optimist, and I am certain we will see Moon base or even Mars base by the end of this century.
As for artificial gravity technology you are also right, but remember that they find particles faster then light recently so they also might find something interesting in that area to.
I also was looking at "Anchien Aliens" recently ( quite good series ) and I saw the new idea of our scientist: a gyroscope with Mercury in it. And when you start it ( when you set it to spin ) after some time the Mercury create some kind of anti-gravitational field.
But for now all of this is all just speculations and theories

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:
Well, you aren't. Until you prove you are. Again though, you made that last statement up, but it would be funny to see you try.

I won't because I am and I certainly doesn't have to prove it to you.

You aren't, but for the sake of comedy, go and try to prove that you're right. If you can't back it up, you're wrong, no matter how much you say you are. Without some sort of proof, you have zero credibility. Not that I accredited your insane ramblings before.

Brother Coa wrote:You are right...still nobody understands me....

No matter, 40k brings a joy in my life since I was age 14 and it is still not old

And yes, people that openly ranting about fall of Human race are traitors in my eyes and that's my personal opinion.


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Ascalam wrote:
The IOM doesn't exist. None of the Xeno races exist either as far as we know. Holy Terra is not Earth, though if we get supremely unlucky it might oneday be

Oh what a joyfull news...
And not real part...how do you then explain national affiliation: Terran in my personal I.D?

Your opinion is a tad extreme, but then you're hardly alone on that one. There are a lot of ideological extremists out there, many of them heavily armed..

Yo have a right to freedom of speech an expression, but then so do we

As long as you don't go buy a pistol and start commisaring us all ...


I see your national affiliation as Terran as being a deep seated and subconcious rejection of your status as a 21st century human from Earth, couples with an obsessive/compulsive delusion that you are in fact a citizen of a non existent race, from another planet, in a universe other than this one.

In short you divorcing yourself from the real 'Humanity' in favour of an artificial and internal world in your head constructed by a gaming company

Whoa guys, settle your kettles. I think I'll now add tau to my list of annoying factions for inspiring this discussion.

Anyways, the more I learn about the AdMech, the more I dislike them. IIRC they purposefully discourage innovation of technology, preferring to only use old technology they rediscover. Lame. If the AdMech would allow technological innovation, perhaps the IoM would be running riot, not struggling to hold everything together.

Phiasco II wrote:Whoa guys, settle your kettles. I think I'll now add tau to my list of annoying factions for inspiring this discussion.

Anyways, the more I learn about the AdMech, the more I dislike them. IIRC they purposefully discourage innovation of technology, preferring to only use old technology they rediscover. Lame. If the AdMech would allow technological innovation, perhaps the IoM would be running riot, not struggling to hold everything together.

Why Tau?

And Mechanicus have some religious issue with them, that can't be helped. Imperium is a very...strange place. It is still whole when it has so many starter point to brake apart. Mechanicus being one of them.

Phiasco II wrote:Whoa guys, settle your kettles. I think I'll now add tau to my list of annoying factions for inspiring this discussion.

Anyways, the more I learn about the AdMech, the more I dislike them. IIRC they purposefully discourage innovation of technology, preferring to only use old technology they rediscover. Lame. If the AdMech would allow technological innovation, perhaps the IoM would be running riot, not struggling to hold everything together.

Well if they happened to do the whole "men of iron" thing again they would likely not survive the ordeal...nor would anything else in the galaxy.

Phiasco II wrote:Whoa guys, settle your kettles. I think I'll now add tau to my list of annoying factions for inspiring this discussion.

Talking about Tau in general always leads to this kind of debate.

The Necrons will probably avoid Tyranids as well. They will gain nothing from them as Tyranids have no souls, and do not feel pain.

And from my experience (Which isn't much), the Tau battlesuits look far too sensible to be Anime.

The Tau. I hate the tau. When I started in 3rd Tau didn't exist. It was wonderful.

Then the Tau came in. With their peace love and happiness, Cow feet, Japanese suit fetish and their non-existent noses.

Comrade wrote:The Tau. I hate the tau. When I started in 3rd Tau didn't exist. It was wonderful.

Then the Tau came in. With their peace love and happiness, Cow feet, Japanese suit fetish and their non-existent noses.

Squigsquasher wrote:The Necrons will probably avoid Tyranids as well. They will gain nothing from them as Tyranids have no souls, and do not feel pain.

And from my experience (Which isn't much), the Tau battlesuits look far too sensible to be Anime.

The Necrons are at their best against tyranids. Even when they destroy tyranids structures, pain is felt. Also, they would not be in much danger against the tyranids.


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Comrade wrote:The Tau. I hate the tau. When I started in 3rd Tau didn't exist. It was wonderful.

Then the Tau came in. With their peace love and happiness, Cow feet, Japanese suit fetish and their non-existent noses.

Why you be hatin' Michael Jackson *cough* err, I mean Tau.

Squigsquasher wrote:The Necrons will probably avoid Tyranids as well. They will gain nothing from them as Tyranids have no souls, and do not feel pain.

And from my experience (Which isn't much), the Tau battlesuits look far too sensible to be Anime.

What the C'tan feed on are not souls, but a purely physiological source of energy, they devour the matter and feed off the electric currents running through the bodies of mortals, or something like that. Forget the wording.

But this means that the C'tan can indeed feed on Tyranids.

Comrade wrote:The Tau. I hate the tau. When I started in 3rd Tau didn't exist. It was wonderful.

Then the Tau came in. With their peace love and happiness, Cow feet, Japanese suit fetish and their non-existent noses.

Fair point. However, Tyranids CAN benefit from attacking Necrons. Tyranids will literally consume EVERYTHING on a planet, even rocks and metals (see the Pyrovore entry in the Tyranid Codex). It is even possible that digesting the metal of Necrons could potentially do...something.

Get them to eat the crazy C'tan! It'd be funny.

The new changes to Necron fluff show how Necrons HATE tyranids.

Void__Dragon wrote:

Squigsquasher wrote:The Necrons will probably avoid Tyranids as well. They will gain nothing from them as Tyranids have no souls, and do not feel pain.

And from my experience (Which isn't much), the Tau battlesuits look far too sensible to be Anime.

What the C'tan feed on are not souls, but a purely physiological source of energy, they devour the matter and feed off the electric currents running through the bodies of mortals, or something like that. Forget the wording.

But this means that the C'tan can indeed feed on Tyranids.

Also, i think I remember that i fluff the necrons are terrifying to the tyranids, because tyranids can't absorb them, the necrons just teleport away and self-repair.

Squigsquasher wrote:Fair point. However, Tyranids CAN benefit from attacking Necrons. Tyranids will literally consume EVERYTHING on a planet, even rocks and metals (see the Pyrovore entry in the Tyranid Codex). It is even possible that digesting the metal of Necrons could potentially do...something.

The smallest scrap of Necrodermis can phase out.

Void__Dragon wrote:

Squigsquasher wrote:Fair point. However, Tyranids CAN benefit from attacking Necrons. Tyranids will literally consume EVERYTHING on a planet, even rocks and metals (see the Pyrovore entry in the Tyranid Codex). It is even possible that digesting the metal of Necrons could potentially do...something.

The smallest scrap of Necrodermis can phase out.

Exactly. It does so at an atomic level. So unless nids have alchemical stomach acid

im2randomghgh wrote:

Void__Dragon wrote:

Squigsquasher wrote:Fair point. However, Tyranids CAN benefit from attacking Necrons. Tyranids will literally consume EVERYTHING on a planet, even rocks and metals (see the Pyrovore entry in the Tyranid Codex). It is even possible that digesting the metal of Necrons could potentially do...something.

The smallest scrap of Necrodermis can phase out.

Exactly. It does so at an atomic level. So unless nids have alchemical stomach acid

would even an alchemical acid help?

You would literally have to split the atom to stop a phase out.

Grey Templar wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Void__Dragon wrote:

Squigsquasher wrote:Fair point. However, Tyranids CAN benefit from attacking Necrons. Tyranids will literally consume EVERYTHING on a planet, even rocks and metals (see the Pyrovore entry in the Tyranid Codex). It is even possible that digesting the metal of Necrons could potentially do...something.

The smallest scrap of Necrodermis can phase out.

Exactly. It does so at an atomic level. So unless nids have alchemical stomach acid

would even an alchemical acid help?

You would literally have to split the atom to stop a phase out.

Well the general premise of alchemy, if I understand correctly, is moving the electrons/protons/neutrons around so that one element becomes another.

Void__Dragon wrote:

Squigsquasher wrote:Fair point. However, Tyranids CAN benefit from attacking Necrons. Tyranids will literally consume EVERYTHING on a planet, even rocks and metals (see the Pyrovore entry in the Tyranid Codex). It is even possible that digesting the metal of Necrons could potentially do...something.

The smallest scrap of Necrodermis can phase out.

Lulz, imagine being back where the necrons phase out to waiting for a group of 'crons to appear from some fight. Now imagine that said 'crons are half way digested by the tyranids who were eating them. Now you have to clean up the mess, nasty

Edited for spelling

Really? Threadcromancy for an edit?

I can be very obsessive compulsive at times, yes

Newcrons annoy me the most. Their fluff is mostly Mat Ward trying to make them sound like the best faction, so they have no flavor at all, and as if that wasn't bad enough, it seems that they will be the GKs of 6th edition, what with the major buffs to glancing, rapid fire, and shooting in general.

Orks, they don't make me laughs, their whole ''we think it, it works'' schtink is annoying as hell and the funny talk is just a pain in the behind to read.

The faction that annoys me most are the whiners...

really dont like the necron, hate the look and playing against them

I actually like all the races. Love Chaos (particularly the Night Lords, haven't read any of the books but from what I've read in the Codices they're badasses, and their armor style and colors are a thing of beauty), love Space Marines, love Orks, everything.

On the other hand, I really dislike the Grey Knights. For comic purposes, they're like the Superman of the 40k universe. They're the indomitable good guys who have been made stupidly powerful. They're very point and click, and don't seem to require much strategy to play, and can wipe the floor with almost anything very convincingly. Not fun to fight and I don't understand how they'd be fun to play.

Not a big fan of Sisters of Battle, either. Dunno why, just don't like the models and their look.

i just dont like space marines, simply because everything games workshop releases is 'ZOMG SPACE MARINES R DA BEST'

and then you see space marines being the only army played and its so damned boring..

Just like every american war movie being about the marines, get over it already :/

Hey now, us marines= best of the best, true story.

Anyways, I really dislike space wolfs. Super hypocritical, more so then everyone else in a hypocrit filled galaxy, self important "we are the Emprahs executioner" bull$|++. Etc

New Necrons (liked the old fluff better), and since I find the totally idiotic way the C'tan handled the Necrons "derp derp lets give all the command to the silent king DERP with no fail safe... He wont betray ous hehe derp" and then he betrays them...
Find this so annoying that the ancient and powerful C'tan did such a stupid thing.
Sure they are arrogant and suffer from a bad case of hubris but it went to far for me.

Oh and I really dislike the new "Wolfs Space Wolfs Wolfs Wolfs"

1.) Grey Knights: The player base, lists, army rules, and fluff just annoy me. They pretty much wrote what ever they want for these guys and feel justified in doing so because "We'll we're basically always in Rambo situations so we get everything plus then some." They're the people who show up at the party, never bring alcohol, and play cheap tactics at RISK.

2.) Space Wolves: Sorry but I just don't get the HUGE fascination with viking culture and anything cold/snow that revolves the Fenris death world. Their arrogance and severe lack of humility with the Guard frustrates the hell out of me. I always smile when I see a Chaos Lord beat their puppy into dog food. This is completely biased though since I grew up in Texas where its warm half the year and hot the other.

3.) Inquisition: I love how pretty much 80% of the time any story involving the Imperium will have an Inquisitor show up and now there's some mild/lame twist to the story. A bunch of rinse, repeat, sanding . Never enough stories about JUST the Guard unit or an epic battle WITHOUT Inquisition interference.

As you can tell, I really don't like the Grey Knights book, fluff mostly. Bunch pretty boys.


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Phiasco II wrote:Hey now, us marines= best of the best, true story.

Anyways, I really dislike space wolfs. Super hypocritical, more so then everyone else in a hypocrit filled galaxy, self important "we are the Emprahs executioner" bull$|++. Etc

Listen up Devil Dog/Astartes, just pretend like you're doing something important and leave the hard work to us, hooah?

All kidding aside, if I hear one more quote about Corpse Bride's snow poodles from players, I'm gonna vomit molten hate.

RLTW

I hate Space Marines. Every army list ever made has to be tailored for the fact that 4/5 games it plays its against something in power armour. THEY KILL THE GAME WITH THEIR INFLATEDNESS. Gw advertise them far too much and smth like 50% of players at tournaments play MEQ :(

Gross generalizations aside (i.e. eldar being to arrogant, dark eldar being too hedonistic, space puppies being too bitey.....), you mostly fail to notice that the fluff books are made to make more money.
On the subject of which army is the most annoying, let us look at current history (ours), which army shows up at the most tournaments? Which army has consistently used every trick in the book (until 6th ed. dropped)? That would be the over powered, too simplistic to paint, grey knobs. That is due to every player who uses them is a total knob job. How many times can draigo show up at a single tournament and not try to suffer a million deaths? Think about it. If you are a knobs player, and you have utilized that list, and tabled a player in 3 turns, you need to have a hammer taken to your toys.

While I really, very strongly disapprove of the GK codex, and the lists that tend to venture forth therefrom...

The concept of the Tao are annoying... Their asthetic is too Macrosse... And there are already several games involving them... And why, if they are so advanced and regimented, are they only as accurate as a grot with their rifles? Seems like they would be more of an Elite-ist army (which is the way GK should be), instead of horde-style...



On the other hand...
Orkz iz ownee arrigont if'n dey iz a Nob! Cuz Nobz iz da best!

Nids. The great Devourer. We may as well just stop playing 40k if these guys ever get their act together and full on attack.
Oh and Ultramarines. Frickin' spirit liege my ass.

I hate field artillery and marines. King of battle my arse.

Anyways. I don't really hate any race but I really don't like Tau. I don't know why but everyone has their opinion. I thinks it the fish factor...

FA is called King of Battle for a reason. More kills upon the battlefield than any other weapon system. Well, conventional weapon system.

I would have to say the factions that annoy me the most (in Descending order) are:

The Space marines, specifically the Ultramarines, they just grate on my nerves, and the fact that GW seems to have a undying love affair with them.

Next are the Tau simply for their "Greater Good, Blah, Join us, Blahblah"

Finally the Grey Knights, while I really like the idea behind them, the fact that they just seem never to lose and are ever the "only" hope at ever killing anything just bugs me.

Horus and his whiny little cry-baby brothers annoy me. "Oooh, my dad doesn't pay attention to me anymore. Boo-Hoo. I'm not the center of his universe anymore. He just gave me this "Greatest Army In The Galaxy Kit (TM)" to play with, and then left. Waaaaaaah."

Bunch of whiny little girlieboys.

I just don't like Tau. I never liked them.

TerminalDragon wrote:Nids. The great Devourer. We may as well just stop playing 40k if these guys ever get their act together and full on attack.
Oh and Ultramarines. Frickin' spirit liege my ass.

The ones who've attacked so far are just the ones who entered this galaxy first. The gang will eventually turn up. AFAIK there's a never-ending tide of them in the void between the galaxies.

marielle wrote:The faction that annoys me most are the whiners...

he whined.

As for the faction that annoys me the most. I dunno. Blood Angels seem kinda stupid to me. I don't think the High Lords and the Inquisition would be so tolerant towards warp crazied vampire Space Marines.

Did this thread really need to come back right next to a thread about the exact same thing?

Veteran Sergeant wrote:Did this thread really need to come back right next to a thread about the exact same thing?

Do not question the ways of Dakka.

The forces of Chaos annoy me to no end. Like OMG guys, I hate you, let's team up and fight so I always have to worry about you stabbing me in the back. They have this rage against the machine mentality for this imagined slight 10,000 years ago. They started the war, how are they the victims for failing to step up to the plate? None of them can trust one another to help out and so to fix this problem they intentionally give each other more reasons for this distrust.

The Word Bearers and more Specifically Fabius Bile.... (read blood angels omnibus)

I personally don't find anything from the fluff annoying (except the new GK stuff that bugs the gak outta me), or anything too annoying rules wise, but I do have a few itches. GK, BA and SW

If I HAD to pick one though, the faction that irritates me most is actually Imperial Guard. Facing facts the idea of them is that they win through attrition and a load of guns. They have the largest numbers in the galaxy and yet still have to call on the Inquisition and Space Marines to get the job done... is this suggesting incompetence or something? This doesn't sit right with me, I mean come on a single guardsman stood up to Horus... HORUS... all alone to protect the Emperor. Talk about balls of steel. (Yes I'm well aware that this got changed to be a custodian and a blood angel by GW but it was sooooo cool while it lasted)


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SgtSixkilla wrote:Horus and his whiny little cry-baby brothers annoy me. "Oooh, my dad doesn't pay attention to me anymore. Boo-Hoo. I'm not the center of his universe anymore. He just gave me this "Greatest Army In The Galaxy Kit (TM)" to play with, and then left. Waaaaaaah."

Bunch of whiny little girlieboys.

Thats not really fair, Horus believed the Emperor allowed the Primarchs to be scattered across the galaxy by Chaos as an excuse for him to conquer the galaxy and ascend to god-hood. It's more like ''Oooh, daddy only had me to carry his burden while he elopes into the realms of the gods. feth this sh!t, if he wants me to take over as the next in line then I'll kick his stupid ass off the thrown and take it for myself''

Grey Knights, love the fluff, hate the codex and the powergaming

Blood Angels, hate the fluff, hate the codex and the powergaming

Space Wolves, neutral to the fluff, dislike the codex and the powergaming

Sisters of Battle, neutral to the fluff, just wish they would go away, don't particularly hate them, but I think there are WAY too many power armor armies CONSIDERING POWER ARMOR IS SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF THE RAREST THINGS IN THE GALAXY!!!!!

I really wish GW would drop most of the Space Marine factions with specific Codex's (of course they never will). I would prefer there be a single Space Marine Codex and an single Chaos codex but you can build ALL of the armies out of those codex's through Leaders, customizable force org charts and such.

I personally hate the adeptus mechanicus, due to the fact that they are a part of the imperium who sees religion as heretical, yet they still prey to the machine god -_-

Won't let chaos figs in my house.

Why nobody makes a poll? It would be easier to know everyone's opinion and see who's the most hated between GK and Eldar.

Anyway I can't stand GK, too much perfect to me, and especially haye how anti-fluff their lists are, I mean, you would never see 10 paladins and Draigo all together in a battle, with maybe just 5 knights for the 2nd troop choice.

Than the space puppies. Just hate them for being absolutely non-sense and for what they did to the Thousand sons.

Inquisition, dont get me wrong i love the idea and when executed well in fluff they are awesome, but ye gotta imagine that everytime they land in allied territories the suicide rate tripples.

I means seriously seeing an inquisitor turn up is almost as depressing as seeing a whole company of space marines turn up, its when you can officially tell that things catagorically CANNOT get any worse.

God help you if the inquisitor turns up WITH space marines. Thats a whole new level of screwed.

Necrons.... (blows head off piriah with bolter) ALL WARD ARMIES MUST SUFFER THE SAME FATE!

Space wolves deserve all my hate. beyond that the only things I hate are mephiston and dragio. I'm cool with anything else.