Do people oppose it for other than relgious regions? "Abomination" is the word used in the Pentateuch. I'm genuinely asking; I've never seen someone opposed to homosexuality on other than religious grounds.
Yeah, they exist, though often they will couch their opposition (which is generally little more than "Ewww!") in religious terminology; ie. people sometimes become religious without warning when topic X is brought up.
I have better things to do with my life than hating pointlessly. If you're gay, OK. It's not as if you're going to sneak in to my room at night and take pictures, and if you are, then you're just a sick person anyway. People who think that homosexuality is immoral are just deluding themeselves; it's not as if they're hurting anyone, and even if they are, it's not a choice. Then there's people who think it's unnatural. You might see 2 male giraffe humping, but you won't see them driving a car.
And then there's people who think it's a sin, simple as that. Well if God is a bigot, then I'm worshipping Satan.
Also, I can't believe this video hasn't been posted yet.
And this thread is still open, haters! That aside, I've heard the argument that from an evolutionary standpoint homosexuality is a means of the weaker of the species culling themselves by not reproducing. I wouldn't call that one traditionally religious at all.
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:And this thread is still open, haters! That aside, I've heard the argument that from an evolutionary standpoint homosexuality is a means of the weaker of the species culling themselves by not reproducing. I wouldn't call that one traditionally religious at all.
It is however bollocks. It's not a very efficient means by which to remove the weaker members of the species if homosexuality has been common throughout human history.
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:And this thread is still open, haters! That aside, I've heard the argument that from an evolutionary standpoint homosexuality is a means of the weaker of the species culling themselves by not reproducing. I wouldn't call that one traditionally religious at all.
It is however bollocks. It's not a very efficient means by which to remove the weaker members of the species if homosexuality has been common throughout human history.
I agree, I was just presenting another example. Pretty much anybody who is weirded out by it finds a justification.
Contrariwise there are evolutionary arguments as to why homosexuality can be useful and adaptive on a species and tribal level, even if it doesn't help the individual reproduce. Some of those theories were mentioned in the Dawkins video Melissia posted earlier in the thread.
MR: Yes. There are, for example, religious people who couch their dislike and denigration in loving and caring terms. And there are others who avoid religious terminology in favor of making spurious argumnents about societal cohesion, the breakdown of the family unit, and other deeply ignorant ideas which sound somewhat rational and unprejudiced if not examined. Which they often aren't, by people raised in circumstances where distate for homosexuals is expected and not really discussed. Some of these people are kids raised around implicit prejudice who don't think of themselves as prejudiced. Or even adults. Here's a letter to Dan Savage's column, followed by a link to an article which discusses it, (and of course Dan's response to this letter):
I heard an interview with you about your It Gets Better campaign. I was saddened and frustrated with your comments regarding people of faith and their perpetuation of bullying. As someone who loves the Lord and does not support gay marriage, I can honestly say I was heartbroken to hear about the young man who took his own life.
If your message is that we should not judge people based on their sexual preference, how do you justify judging entire groups of people for any other reason (including their faith)? There is no part of me that took any pleasure in what happened to that young man.
To that end, to imply that I would somehow encourage my children to mock, hurt, or intimidate another person for any reason is completely unfounded and offensive. Being a follower of Christ is, above all things, a recognition that we are all imperfect, fallible, and in desperate need of a savior. We cannot believe that we are better or more worthy than other people.
Please consider your viewpoint, and please be more careful with your words in the future.
Yeah, someone could have just saved me a few braincells and told me that he was going to conflate a philosophical opposition to gay marriage with tacit approval of teenage bullying-related suicides. Way to decry poisonous generalizations by making them.
I'm friends with some gay people that aren't in favor of gay marriage. I suppose they like seeing dead gay children as well? I guess I've outgrown vitriolic punditry... Other than making his fans say "Hell yeah!" what was accomplished by that article?
Someone in the comments section actually had some sense, however. Beware of naughty language.
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When both sides throw rocks, both sides get hurt.
Christians are supposed to love, which is why the LGBT community gets extra upset about the hypocrisy those Christians represent. At the same time, the LGBT community is supposed to be all about tolerance, and yet some of them slam people of faith as violently as they themselves have been slammed.
No side is all of any one thing. Just because someone is LGBT doesn’t mean they are a nice person. Just because someone is Christian doesn’t mean they are a nice person. Both sides have their asshats.
And both sides should stand up to the asshats in BOTH groups.
The Christians who stand with the LGBT are true heroes, and I know so many of them. So let us please not slam ALL Christians. Or people of ANY faith.
That being said, too many people of faith use their faith as a way to perpetuate a hatred and bigotry that is in direct opposition of the teachings of that same faith. And when that results in bullying that contributes to the death of LGBT youth, it’s hard not to let the sheer tragedy overwhelm sensibility. We ALL need to stand up to hatred, and asshats, and that means standing together under the umbrella of shared values that says here in America people can follow the faith of their choice AND follow their hearts to love and marry the person of their choice. And as long as there is a legal definition of marriage, then every American should be able to participate and be legally married. And if you think there is this whole other, non-legal side of marriage as well, guess what? Gay people are already getting married that way.
So, love your fething neighbor and let them love whoever the feth they want. LEGALLY. I don’t know why this is so difficult for so many people to understand.
Monster Rain wrote:Yeah, someone could have just saved me a few braincells and told me that he was going to conflate a philosophical opposition to gay marriage with tacit approval of teenage bullying-related suicides. Way to decry poisonous generalizations by making them.
He's not conflating a philosophical opposition to gay marriage with tacit approval of teenage bullying-related suicides. He's saying that opposing gay marriage is, in most if not all cases, contributing to the environment and treatment of gay kids which does lead to them killing themselves more than other kids.
He's pointing out that if you don't think opposing gay marriage isn't, at least to some extent, treating them as second-class citizens or lesser people you're lying to yourself. If you're a Christian who opposes gay marriage, but doesn't also equally oppose athiest marriage, or divorce, then you are treating gay people differently and more harshly. And if you have these unadmitted prejudices, it is quite likely that you are passing them onto your own kids, who may not be as gentle in how they treat gay people, or people they perceive as being gay.
Monster Rain wrote:I'm friends with some gay people that aren't in favor of gay marriage.
Really? Are they opposed to the idea of marriage in general? Or are they making the joke about not wanting to be pressured by their parents about getting married the way straight people do?
Monster Rain wrote:I suppose they like seeing dead gay children as well? I guess I've outgrown vitriolic punditry... Other than making his fans say "Hell yeah!" what was accomplished by that article? Do you think the people that we're trying to convince to let their backward ideas go are going to respond positively to it?
Maybe, maybe not. Most of us are using sweet reason. Sometimes a verbal slap in the face is appropriate. Martin Luther King Jr. was famously nonviolent, but his rhetoric was pretty angry and fierce at times. I doubt he ever publicly said "feth you" to bigots, but just getting up in public and shouting about it was as good as doing so, in those days. He was provocative and he was angry. Dan's no MLK, but he's justifiably angry too.
Mannahnin wrote:He's pointing out that if you don't think opposing gay marriage isn't, at least to some extent, treating them as second-class citizens or lesser people you're lying to yourself. If you're a Christian who opposes gay marriage, but doesn't also equally oppose athiest marriage, or divorce, then you are treating gay people differently and more harshly.
I don't see how the atheism thing plays into it, but yeah, denying people rights is bad.
Mannahnin wrote:Really? Are they opposed to the idea of marriage in general? Or are they making the joke about not wanting to be pressured by their parents about getting married the way straight people do?
No, they're quite serious. They're fine with being different. They just want the same legal benefits of marriage and don't care about what they see as seeking approval from us breeders.
Mannahnin wrote:Dan's no MLK, but he's justifiably angry too.
He's going to have cause to be angry longer than is necessary if people can't find common ground and actually work toward solutions without automatically hating people that have a different worldview than them.
Mannahnin wrote:He's pointing out that if you don't think opposing gay marriage isn't, at least to some extent, treating them as second-class citizens or lesser people you're lying to yourself. If you're a Christian who opposes gay marriage, but doesn't also equally oppose athiest marriage, or divorce, then you are treating gay people differently and more harshly.
I don't see how the atheism thing plays into it, but yeah, denying people rights is bad.
Well, if you're working from one of the traditional Christian definitions of marriage (which is what people who argue about wanting to preserve "traditional marriage" always mean), it wouldn't be something available to nonbelievers. Heck, one might also oppose interfaith marriages.
Monster Rain wrote:
Mannahnin wrote:Really? Are they opposed to the idea of marriage in general? Or are they making the joke about not wanting to be pressured by their parents about getting married the way straight people do?
No, they're quite serious. They're fine with being different. They just want the same legal benefits of marriage and don't care about what they see as seeking approval from us breeders.
Okay, so they DO expect to get the same rights and protections. They just don't care about the word. Of course, if you just use the word, you don't have to re-write thousands of Federal and local laws pertaining to marriage. IME gay folks who take this position usually are doing it out of pragmatism, figuring it's easier to cede the word to the bigots than to change their minds.
Monster Rain wrote:
Mannahnin wrote:Dan's no MLK, but he's justifiably angry too.
He's going to have cause to be angry longer than is necessary if people can't find common ground and actually work toward solutions without automatically hating people that have a different worldview than them.
Right, and he doesn't actually hate them. He gets angry at them sometimes and might curse at them occasionally, but he's a very thoughtful and rational person who does do a lot of constructive and practical work on these issues. In this case he got a person who has not examined their own prejudice whining that their feelings are hurt, by strong rhetoric used in a campaign to reduce the number of dying kids, who are killing themselves due to more harsh expressions of the same prejudices held by the complainer.
Mannahnin wrote:Okay, so they DO expect to get the same rights and protections. They just don't care about the word. Of course, if you just use the word, you don't have to re-write thousands of Federal and local laws pertaining to marriage. IME gay folks who take this position usually are doing it out of pragmatism, figuring it's easier to cede the word to the bigots than to change their minds.
Oh it's definitely based in pragmatism. Sadly, you aren't going to change some people's minds. Ever.
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Mannahnin wrote:Right, and he doesn't actually hate them.
I get a very different vibe from a lot of his work.
Using kids will almost always elicit an emotional response, if someone says "Think of the children." it may be because they don't have an actual reason why a person should agree with them.
I don't think that anyone should be married by the government, now a domestic partnership I can see but I don't think that the government has the right to tell someone who they can be with so much as they are consenting adults. Homosexuals and heterosexuals should be able to get domestic partnerships from the government.
Mannahnin wrote:Okay, so they DO expect to get the same rights and protections. They just don't care about the word. Of course, if you just use the word, you don't have to re-write thousands of Federal and local laws pertaining to marriage. IME gay folks who take this position usually are doing it out of pragmatism, figuring it's easier to cede the word to the bigots than to change their minds.
Oh it's definitely based in pragmatism. Sadly, you aren't going to change some people's minds. Ever.
Sure, but you can change the culture, and gradually those bigots' views are marginalized and finally they die out. We're still in that long process for blatant racism in our society; it's not dead by a long shot, but it's much less common than it once was, and almost if not totally gone from the law. Gay folks aren't as far along that road yet, but they'll get there too, I think.
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Mannahnin wrote:Right, and he doesn't actually hate them.
I get a very different vibe from a lot of his work.
I guarantee you that he doesn't hate people like the one who wrote that letter. He just gets a bit angry and frustrated with them at times. I imagine he does hate some of the more hateful people out there; like the ones who literally still commit or sanction violence against innocent people based on their real or perceived sexual orientation. Remember he's a bit older than you and me, too, so he's got more direct and personal experience of when our society was even more hateful and less-tolerant toward "his kind"; he was a teenager during Anita Bryant's campaigns, and when Harvey Milk was shot, as examples.
Anyway, I take your point about anger. Of course, some other important social activists have also expressed themselves in angry terms from time to time. Some of them have even gotten violent.
Cheesecat wrote:While, on the topic of sexuality do any of you guys think it's possible to be in love with more than one person at the same time?
I believe so. Then again, I believe that you can have intercourse with multiple people (With the group's consent) at the same time.Not all at once, however. A man's gotta breathe.
Cheesecat wrote:While, on the topic of sexuality do any of you guys think it's possible to be in love with more than one person at the same time?
I was poly for a brief period so anecdotally, yes. However, I firmly believe that the love can only be so deep for either (or any) person at that point. You'll also inevitably end up loving someone more than another just a little at various times. I don't think any person can have a "marriage-level" of love for more than one person at once, honestly (plus polygamy always turns into someone getting abused).
Chowderhead wrote:I believe so. Then again, I believe that you can have intercourse with multiple people (With the group's consent) at the same time.Not all at once, however. A man's gotta breathe.
Actually on topic, I had someone ask me "since I was dating a girl, am I going to stay bi?" It amazes me that people can be that level of ignorant still. It may have been masked aggression, but whatever.
As I said before, disliking gays makes no sense at all because there absolutely is no choice in the matter, isnt that fundamentally what it all boils down to?
Haters say they dislike their "lifestyle choice", but it clearly isn't a choice, because I don't choose to like women, I am a slave to my loins and they demand that I leer at women, slap their asses when they walk past me in the street, and toss good natured family friendly verbal sexual assaults in their direction.
mattyrm wrote: I am a slave to my loins and they demand that I leer at women, slap their asses when they walk past me in the street, and toss good natured family friendly verbal sexual assaults in their direction.
You and I just became interwebz best friends forever. And I have now stolen that bit for future use.
mattyrm wrote: I am a slave to my loins and they demand that I leer at women, slap their asses when they walk past me in the street, and toss good natured family friendly verbal sexual assaults in their direction.
You and I just became interwebz best friends forever. And I have now stolen that bit for future use.
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Actually on topic, I had someone ask me "since I was dating a girl, am I going to stay bi?" It amazes me that people can be that level of ignorant still. It may have been masked aggression, but whatever.
As I mentioned in I think my first post , my wife often gets her bisexuality called into question because she is married to me. In fact I think the poorest responses come from gay people, who think that her views on sexual orientation don't count for as much because she doesn't have a same sex partner which is particularly annoying at events promoting equality.
Bisexuals are still described as 'greedy' or that they are 'in a phase', 'can't make their mind up', 'not really gay' or something else equally moronic as though how gay you are is some sort of contest. It annoys me no end that some homosexuals whine about discrimination while taking that attitude towards bisexuals.
I was once with one of my close friends and her girlfriend when someone told them to stop pretending to be lesbians and just making out for attention...
It is amazingly sad, especially when it's that direct.
I'm on a course at the moment (a somewhat useless one, but oh well, it keeps the job centre happy) and on the first day, I learned exactly who were the tools from whoever agreed with this statement from the guy sitting next to me:
"Gay people are just fething weird and unnatural."
How people can outright state something so disgustingly insulting and untrue with the confidence that he did, and have others openly agree with it, eludes me.
Avatar 720 wrote:It is amazingly sad, especially when it's that direct.
I'm on a course at the moment (a somewhat useless one, but oh well, it keeps the job centre happy) and on the first day, I learned exactly who were the tools from whoever agreed with this statement from the guy sitting next to me:
"Gay people are just fething weird and unnatural."
How people can outright state something so disgustingly insulting and untrue with the confidence that he did, and have others openly agree with it, eludes me.
It's amazing what people will believe, stupid or not.
More seriously, these kinds of statements are aggravating.
I liked the fact that because I didn't have a girlfriend in highschool the automatic assumption was that I was a homosexual and it doesn't help when you ask a girl out and she thinks that you are a homosexual.
halonachos wrote:
I liked the fact that because I didn't have a girlfriend in highschool the automatic assumption was that I was a homosexual and it doesn't help when you ask a girl out and she thinks that you are a homosexual.
I hear that quite a bit from americans to be honest (that they haven't had a girlfriend and just finished highschool or are in college), maybe it's just my town being somewhat promiscuous but when I was in secondary school (ages 11 to 16) literally EVERYONE had a girlfriend or boyfriend at some point during that period.
Is is just the norm in america to start having boyfriends/girlfriends and getting laid much later than over here?
corpsesarefun wrote:
Is is just the norm in america to start having boyfriends/girlfriends and getting laid much later than over here?
No. Well, maybe among wargaming Americans, but not the general population.
My best friend lost her virginity at 12, a number of girls in my upper middle class public school had kids at 15-16, and I would guess that about 30-40% of girls had become sexually active before high school.
corpsesarefun wrote:In case, perchance, I had offended.
I can't be offended its just impossible, I'm socially irreverent so I often find myself saying things that offend people but I really don't care most of the time.
Monster Rain wrote:"Kim Kardashian files for divorce after 72 days. Another example of how same-sex marriage is destroying the sanctity of the very institution."
Mine is Zirconium, only because I had a dream where the newspaper's headline was "Zirconium disproves existence of God". I gak you not this was an actual dream of mine, somehow it tied together with a zombie apocalypse, but it was a fun dream.
corpsesarefun wrote:Antimony just rolls off the tongue.
DISCLAIMER: I do not suggest you roll antimony on your tongue.
Little Timmy took a drink,
But he will drink no more,
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.
Also the first rule of chemistry is to never lick the spoon, the second rule is to never click on the close box on the NMR machine or else the lab TA will eat you alive and cast your soul into hell.
Two scientists walk into a bar
The first scientist says ‘I’ll have a glass of H2O”
The second scientist says ‘I’ll have a glass of water too. Wh… why did you say H2O? Like, I know it’s the chemical formula for water and all, but it’s the end of the day and there’s really no need to intentionally over-complicate things like that in a situation outside of work”
The first scientist stares at his drink, angry that his assassination plan has failed.
Transexual here, bluring the lines of gender even more than is needed. Atracted to both genders as I can see them for what they are. Quite resevered but whom isn't when it comes to some things.....Oh, this isn't a pick up thread Ones sexualaty comes from meny things, be it enviromental to genetics. But one thing remains true, you can't help whom you fall in love with. If you could I wouldn't have a restraning order on my ex-boy friend and I wouldn't of had to spend 2 weeks in hospital recovering from....well you get the pitcure You've only got one life so enjoy it as you never know when the car might crash.
corpsesarefun wrote:
Is is just the norm in america to start having boyfriends/girlfriends and getting laid much later than over here?
No. Well, maybe among wargaming Americans, but not the general population.
My best friend lost her virginity at 12, a number of girls in my upper middle class public school had kids at 15-16, and I would guess that about 30-40% of girls had become sexually active before high school.
I knew several girls who got pregnant at 9-12 years of age...
One of them had their parents force her to carry the child to term, so she was holding the baby on the first day of middle school, at thirteen-ish.
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corpsesarefun wrote:Antimony is my favourite element.
Call be boring, but I prefer carbon.
I mean, all the wonderful things I can do with it as a Chemist! It's a lovely lovely chemical made of/for lovely lovely fuel, explosives, drugs, poisons, and the origin of life!
Ribon Fox wrote:Transexual here, bluring the lines of gender even more than is needed. Atracted to both genders as I can see them for what they are. Quite resevered but whom isn't when it comes to some things.....Oh, this isn't a pick up thread Ones sexualaty comes from meny things, be it enviromental to genetics.
But one thing remains true, you can't help whom you fall in love with. If you could I wouldn't have a restraning order on my ex-boy friend and I wouldn't of had to spend 2 weeks in hospital recovering from....well you get the pitcure You've only got one life so enjoy it as you never know when the car might crash.
I had no idea you were TS! Yay! Miss Remilia seems to have disappeared for now so you get to be our resident I suppose. Regardless of who you fall in love with, stay away from the bad ones. I'm sure you know they're not worth it and you're worth so much more.
Im straight, i like to see two women making out because i find it attractive because thats what i'm into (you know, women..). I don't have any issues with the gay community, do what you want i don't really care... but, i do find the idea of two men having sex quite disturbing, gross & quite a turn off (the actions itself). does that mean i have double standards? maybe, thats just what i find attractive/unattractive.. hence me being straight. Nothing beats good consented sex though.. (regardless of sexuality)
Ribon Fox wrote:Transexual here, bluring the lines of gender even more than is needed. Atracted to both genders as I can see them for what they are. Quite resevered but whom isn't when it comes to some things.....Oh, this isn't a pick up thread Ones sexualaty comes from meny things, be it enviromental to genetics.
But one thing remains true, you can't help whom you fall in love with. If you could I wouldn't have a restraning order on my ex-boy friend and I wouldn't of had to spend 2 weeks in hospital recovering from....well you get the pitcure You've only got one life so enjoy it as you never know when the car might crash.
I'm stupid, so forgive me, but what is a transexual
Avatar 720 wrote:It is amazingly sad, especially when it's that direct.
I'm on a course at the moment (a somewhat useless one, but oh well, it keeps the job centre happy) and on the first day, I learned exactly who were the tools from whoever agreed with this statement from the guy sitting next to me:
"Gay people are just fething weird and unnatural."
How people can outright state something so disgustingly insulting and untrue with the confidence that he did, and have others openly agree with it, eludes me.
I would just turn to the fether and say, "You calling me weird" even if your straight, bi, or homo.
But yeah, how people can say that is disgusting
Melissia wrote:I don't care if i'm weird.
I mean I'm a wargamer, a DND player, a DH player, a Vampire:The Masquerade roleplayer, I play video games, and I'm a chemistry major-- I'm weird.
It's fun being weird.
I'm the weirdest person I know, Then Cannerus, Then you melissia.
I like carbon, it makes alcohol, I love it.
DukeBadham wrote:
I'm the weirdest person I know, Then Cannerus, Then you melissia.
I like carbon, it makes alcohol, I love it.
Define weird!?
RPG and model painting, cosplay, goths, emos, dressing up, ridiculous sexual deviancy.. In this day and age there are millions and millions of people do all of the above and then some, as a result, my "weird bar" is pretty much as high as it can go. I used to think people that did all of the above were pretty weird when I was 15, but now?!
You have do be doing gak that gets your 25 to life to count as weird in 2011.
Adults who dress up, pretend to be vampires, play video games, paint minis wear nothing but black, wear the opposite sexes clothes... gak, none of that stuff strikes me as weird. Cannerus sexual exploits are common place amongst grown adults these days.
corpsesarefun wrote:Carbon is quite boring to be honest, though I'm really not a fan of organic chemistry.
Carbon makes for great explosions. Therefor it cannot be boring. No exceptions.
Carbon can be used to make graphite and diamonds which themselves are incredibly boring. Now when you through in nitrogen, hydrogen, and oxygen it starts to get fun. So yeah carbon is boring, can't even make an amino acid without carbon.
How the meeting with the Mistress' parents go? Do they like their daughter's slave?
Still haven't met the dad yet. Meeting her mom was pretty fething hilarious in a fashion that can only be described through PM (no, not that, you sickos).
And honestly people saying gayness makes them uncomfortable doesn't really threaten me if it's just someone being honest and not being a jerk about it. There's a definite line when it comes to being intolerant/abrasive or just uncomfortable. I was the same way before I eventually got around to coming out.
corpsesarefun wrote:Carbon is quite boring to be honest, though I'm really not a fan of organic chemistry.
Carbon makes for great explosions. Therefor it cannot be boring. No exceptions.
Carbon can be used to make graphite and diamonds which themselves are incredibly boring. Now when you through in nitrogen, hydrogen, and oxygen it starts to get fun. So yeah carbon is boring, can't even make an amino acid without carbon.
All you need to make explosives is carbon and water.
Hydrogen by itself is just a one trick pony though.
How the meeting with the Mistress' parents go? Do they like their daughter's slave?
Still haven't met the dad yet. Meeting her mom was pretty fething hilarious in a fashion that can only be described through PM (no, not that, you sickos).
And honestly people saying gayness makes them uncomfortable doesn't really threaten me if it's just someone being honest and not being a jerk about it. There's a definite line when it comes to being intolerant/abrasive or just uncomfortable. I was the same way before I eventually got around to coming out.
Gayness doesn't bother me, people have the right to be happy. Homosexuality doesn't bother me either though, love is love in my opinion.
How the meeting with the Mistress' parents go? Do they like their daughter's slave?
Still haven't met the dad yet. Meeting her mom was pretty fething hilarious in a fashion that can only be described through PM (no, not that, you sickos).
And honestly people saying gayness makes them uncomfortable doesn't really threaten me if it's just someone being honest and not being a jerk about it. There's a definite line when it comes to being intolerant/abrasive or just uncomfortable. I was the same way before I eventually got around to coming out.
Gayness doesn't bother me, people have the right to be happy. Homosexuality doesn't bother me either though, love is love in my opinion.
I think the only time Gayness has bothered me is when it's used as a derogatory adjective.
I'm another straight person who gives off a gay vibe. I've been asked out by gay men before, though not for a while, so I must have lost some of my appeal.
Experimenting might have crossed my mind briefly at university, but at the end of the day, I just like women too much to consider alternatives.
EDIT - Oh and happily married now, so no alternatives whatsoever these days
Can I say, that regardless of content and never you mind my personal opinions on this subject, that I am moderately impressed by the lifespan of this thread? Cheers to you lads!
There's another thing, the choice of alcoholic beverage is often used as an indicator of sexual preference by the uninformed masses, and i've never really understood it... at all...
Melissia wrote:I prefer my beverages non-alcoholic... heh...
So do I actually, my body isn't too keen on alcohol, and tends to want to return it to sender if it recieves any volume of it. I'm not exactly upset about it though, since I don't smoke or take drugs, so I might as well enjoy the health benefits that come with not drinking on top of it.
corpsesarefun wrote:I'm down with strong cider or most spirits.
Beer, red wine, Madeira wine, alcopops and weak cider I'm not a massive fan of.
That said, I'm into most cocktail you throw at me as long as they aren't too sweet or cherry flavoured.
You know what that means right?
@ Melissia, you should try near beer then. Its not alcoholic and tastes just like beer, which is completely pointless all things considered.
Mel hates beer
Avatar 720 wrote:
Melissia wrote:I prefer my beverages non-alcoholic... heh...
So do I actually, my body isn't too keen on alcohol, and tends to want to return it to sender if it recieves any volume of it. I'm not exactly upset about it though, since I don't smoke or take drugs, so I might as well enjoy the health benefits that come with not drinking on top of it.
My body is abnormally tolerant to alcohol, I often end up being the carer/sensible on at parties because I just can't manage to get drunk.
Oh smooth your feathers ms fusspot, if you don't like the taste of alcohol or the taste of the things that cover up the taste of alcohol there is little we can do
I drink dark beer, yet Texans seem addicted to light beer. Fruity drinks can be okay. Whenever a dude at a club buys me a drink it's always something fruity.
halonachos wrote:Try Gray Goose then, it tastes like rubbing alcohol.
You're joking, right?
No, its absolutely tasty and I recommend it to anyone looking for a nice drink. You can easily do four shots of the stuff and barely get a buzz.
Not sure if absinthe is legal over here yet, it was at some point and then they were talking about doing it again. I also don't want to get drunk, I'm told that I would most likely be a happy drunk but I don't want to test that.
I do want to get some fething Hell though, sounds good.
corpsesarefun wrote:A magnificent trio of dakkites on the town, which town though?
Manchester is closest to me (or Stockport preferably, since I get lost in Manc, but Manc is bigger and better), and also houses Alby. Pretty sure Matty lives up North too.
corpsesarefun wrote:A magnificent trio of dakkites on the town, which town though?
Manchester is closest to me (or Stockport preferably, since I get lost in Manc, but Manc is bigger and better), and also houses Alby. Pretty sure Matty lives up North too.
I don't know Matty personally, but I think it would be safe to assume that if you go out with him someone will not be coming home. Kind of like in the Hangover except more bad ass thanks to matty.
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I drink dark beer, yet Texans seem addicted to light beer.
Not true sir.
I do love my Shiner (Black ftw) and my Zeigenbock, but again, I see your Bud, Miller, Coors and whatnot everywhere. I like to openly mock everyone in a group who orders light beer for drinking something girlier than me.
So you cheat, we don't let anyone under 18 drink legally. I bet that if we allowed 15 year olds to drink legally then we would drink you all under the table.
So you cheat, we don't let anyone under 18 drink legally. I bet that if we allowed 15 year olds to drink legally then we would drink you all under the table.
We don't let anyone under 18 drink legally either... doesn't mean it doesn't happen though... a lot...
The legal age in Britain is 18.
Melissia wrote:It's ~90% alcohol dude. It's not really even safe for consumption...
Well, I'm certainly not saying to turn the bottle up, but mixed in small amounts with vodka, rum and fruit juices it's not bad.
Sort of the idea at parties to loosen up a bit.
Maybe?
From what i have seen British drinking culture seems to differ from American drinking culture...
Maybe its just me though.
Though it wouldn't matter that much anyway because they would have to drink so much they would raise the national average by over double...
Melissia wrote:It's ~90% alcohol dude. It's not really even safe for consumption...
Well, I'm certainly not saying to turn the bottle up, but mixed in small amounts with vodka, rum and fruit juices it's not bad.
Sort of the idea at parties to loosen up a bit.
So what you're saying is you don't actually like everclear, you like vodka, rum ,and fruit juices.
Melissia wrote:It's ~90% alcohol dude. It's not really even safe for consumption...
Well, I'm certainly not saying to turn the bottle up, but mixed in small amounts with vodka, rum and fruit juices it's not bad.
Sort of the idea at parties to loosen up a bit.
So what you're saying is you don't actually like everclear, you like vodka, rum ,and fruit juices.
Pretty much, the everclear just gives everything a little " kick".
For the most part however I stick with Jack Daniels, Sam Addams and the occasional shot of Jagger.
Karon wrote:>implying kids who want to drink alcohol will be stopped by a number.
Personally, I prefer Vodka when I drink, and don't really settle for anything else.
And you think that we would tally kids who drink if they are under the legal age or that a majority of kids who drink illegally would actually admit to it and be counted towards the national average?
Melissia wrote:It's ~90% alcohol dude. It's not really even safe for consumption...
Well, I'm certainly not saying to turn the bottle up, but mixed in small amounts with vodka, rum and fruit juices it's not bad.
Sort of the idea at parties to loosen up a bit.
So what you're saying is you don't actually like everclear, you like vodka, rum ,and fruit juices.
Pretty much, the everclear just gives everything a little " kick".
For the most part however I stick with Jack Daniels, Sam Addams and the occasional shot of Jagger.
I got that booze like Jager,
that boooooooooooooze like Jager
Who feth cares if Brits or Americans drink more or less than one and other, drink because you want to not because it's a competition to beat another country.
Cheesecat wrote:Who feth cares if Brits or Americans drink more or less than one and other, drink because you want to not because it's a competition to beat another country.
At this point, the only sense of national identity Americans have left is thinking they're better than other countries.
Tell them that it's a drinking competition with the UK and we'll drink until our livers are shot.
Melissia wrote:And here I thought people drank because they had sad lonely lives.
I'm curious where you think you get off judging people.
Unless this is a joke, then nevermind.
Well usually by judging people, I get a sense of superiority. From there, I justify my meaningless life by looking down on others. As I construct my marble pedestal, I have to make it higher and higher, as at each new height I realize I still have more people I can't look down on! It is a very complex and time consuming project, but so very wortwhile.
At least, until that final moment when I've finished building it all, and I realized I forgot to install a heated seat or something for me to sit on, because marble pedestals are *!%#ing cold! Brrr... now I'm gonna have to climb all the damned way back down. And find an extension cord long enough. Or maybe just several cords daisy chained together...
personally,i dont really care. so long as said gay doesn't try and persuade me into anything after i tell him im not gay,then im a-ok.
dont think persuade is the right word...... :/
from a political standpoint..... i dont think the government should do anything with it. dont legalize it, dont ban it, just dont do anything with it. leave it alone and the fire will burn down,and people will stop caring about it. hopefully.
Melissia wrote:And here I thought people drank because they had sad lonely lives.
I'm curious where you think you get off judging people.
Unless this is a joke, then nevermind.
Well usually by judging people, I get a sense of superiority. From there, I justify my meaningless life by looking down on others. As I construct my marble pedestal, I have to make it higher and higher, as at each new height I realize I still have more people I can't look down on! It is a very complex and time consuming project, but so very wortwhile.
At least, until that final moment when I've finished building it all, and I realized I forgot to install a heated seat or something for me to sit on, because marble pedestals are *!%#ing cold! Brrr... now I'm gonna have to climb all the damned way back down. And find an extension cord long enough. Or maybe just several cords daisy chained together...
You know your life probably wouldn't be so meaningless if you spent less time on your false sense of entitlement and actually went out did stuff with your life like meeting new people, socializing, trying new
Mannahnin wrote:Non-sweet alcoholic drinks are an acquired taste, like most bitter foods. No one starts out liking the taste of beer or whisky.
Not to be needlessly contrary, but I really liked scotch the first time I tried it.
Something about the smoky flavor really struck a chord with me on a primal level. Can't disagree about beer though; it took me a while to be able to acquire that particular taste.
Also, Jim Jeffries is one of my favorite comedians of all time. Nice clip!
Melissia wrote:It's ~90% alcohol dude. It's not really even safe for consumption...
One of my favorite "memories" from college was throwing a house party, and being put in charge of making the punch after I was already several drinks into the night. This lead to me doing drunken math in order to figure out how much Everclear to put in a 5 gallon vat of punch. Long story short, my drunken math was incorrect, and what should have been about 25 proof ended up being about 50 proof.
How obvious do I have to make my jokes? I mean goddamn, my previous post was pretty obvious...
lord commissar klimino wrote:from a political standpoint..... i dont think the government should do anything with it. dont legalize it, dont ban it, just dont do anything with it. leave it alone and the fire will burn down,and people will stop caring about it. hopefully.
... except for the homosexuals themselves, whom are still living as second class citizens?
The LGBT community sure as hell won't forget about it-- they have to live with it. Arguing that they should just stop trying to persue their legal rights is kinda inane...
Monster Rain wrote:Protip: The best way to make a joke obvious is to have it be funny.
What the hell? Nobody ever told me that! Tsch... You people are so DEMANDING!!
Anyways - a little story from yesterday:
So... I was working out yesterday at the gym, with some buddies of mine. One of them, a homosexual guy.
Well, after work-out, it was time to stretch one's muscles. So while i was lying there, stretching out my buttocks, my friend took the opportunity to be much open-hearted about how my behind looked in that posture.
- Very disturbing material!Very, uhm... Ambivalent!
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I drink dark beer, yet Texans seem addicted to light beer.
Not true sir.
Don't forget Ziegenbach as well.
My current evil is 2/3 dark rum and 1/3 water. Rodney the wonder wiener climbed up on the sofa, sniffed it and looked at me like "dad why are you drinking poison?!!"
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Melissia wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
corpsesarefun wrote:Ah it's only 40%, you want some good European 60% vodka.
Or better yet, absinthe.
That's weak, Everclear is the only way to go.
Barf-tastic...
Actually when properly mixed it's not bad at all...but I recommend caution when drinking it...as it tends to creep up on you.
Also its good in case of zombie nazi outbreak. You can get your inner Russian soldier freak on and use it as an emergenecy flamethrower/molotov cocktail.
What's up with you Americans and being prepared for anything anyways?
1. Its a Frazzled tradition. I have a plan A, B, C, and D. I am currently on Life Plan C.
2. Its also a family heritage. We see a bottle of something and wonder "can I throw this at a Nazi tank?" and "Well if I drink half of it first, can I still throw the rest at a Nazi tank?"
Melissia wrote:It's ~90% alcohol dude. It's not really even safe for consumption...
One of my favorite "memories" from college was throwing a house party, and being put in charge of making the punch after I was already several drinks into the night. This lead to me doing drunken math in order to figure out how much Everclear to put in a 5 gallon vat of punch. Long story short, my drunken math was incorrect, and what should have been about 25 proof ended up being about 50 proof.
Whoops.
I've made those same ' miscalculations" myself when mixing Jungle juice in the past...some of the events that followed are the subjects of various "tales" even to this day.
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Melissia wrote:You should tell Jim Jeffries that then
Hey hey hey!, That's where I draw the line....insult humanity all you like...but leave Jim Jeffries alone...next you'll be having a go at Doug Stanhope I suppose.
Melissia wrote:At least it's not as bad as the time a friend of mine (at a party I thankfully did not attend) mixed up the brownie batches.
... Yes, I could definitely see where that could become problematic..." I swear to god officer...I haven't had a drop to drink, in fact all I had at the party was a couple of brownies...they did taste a bit off though".
Frazzled wrote:
2. Its also a family heritage. We see a bottle of something and wonder "can I throw this at a Nazi tank?" and "Well if I drink half of it first, can I still throw the rest at a Nazi tank?"
You'd most likely still be able to throw it in the direction of a Nazi tank after taking in half of it.
Frazzled wrote:
2. Its also a family heritage. We see a bottle of something and wonder "can I throw this at a Nazi tank?" and "Well if I drink half of it first, can I still throw the rest at a Nazi tank?"
You'd most likely still be able to throw it in the direction of a Nazi tank after taking in half of it.
... You drink half a bottle of everclear and it's a good bet that you won't even be able to see the Nazi tank..
Frazzled wrote:
2. Its also a family heritage. We see a bottle of something and wonder "can I throw this at a Nazi tank?" and "Well if I drink half of it first, can I still throw the rest at a Nazi tank?"
You'd most likely still be able to throw it in the direction of a Nazi tank after taking in half of it.
... You drink half a bottle of everclear and it's a good bet that you won't even be able to see the Nazi tank..
Young Padiwon, you underestimate the power of drunken Slavic genes! The more drunk we are, the better our aim!
But I move to call the LGBT community the HBT community, why do lesbians get to have their own special name for being homosexual and men don't? Honestly for a group that wants to be treated fairly they should treat members of their own community fairly first.
Frazzled wrote:
2. Its also a family heritage. We see a bottle of something and wonder "can I throw this at a Nazi tank?" and "Well if I drink half of it first, can I still throw the rest at a Nazi tank?"
You'd most likely still be able to throw it in the direction of a Nazi tank after taking in half of it.
... You drink half a bottle of everclear and it's a good bet that you won't even be able to see the Nazi tank..
Young Padiwon, you underestimate the power of drunken Slavic genes! The more drunk we are, the better our aim!
I'll have to take your word for that Frazz... But speaking for myself, having zero Slavic genes....were I to consume a half bottle of everclear and then attempt to use the remaining half as a molotov cocktail ...I suspect a trip to the hospital would be in my near future.
Mannahnin wrote:Non-sweet alcoholic drinks are an acquired taste, like most bitter foods. No one starts out liking the taste of beer or whisky.
Not to be needlessly contrary, but I really liked scotch the first time I tried it.
Something about the smoky flavor really struck a chord with me on a primal level. Can't disagree about beer though; it took me a while to be able to acquire that particular taste.
Also, Jim Jeffries is one of my favorite comedians of all time. Nice clip!
Agreed with MR here, I'm a lover of smoke is most of its forms (smoked fish, chargrilled foods, woodsmoke fires) so I'm quite a scotch fan.
Mannahnin wrote:Non-sweet alcoholic drinks are an acquired taste, like most bitter foods. No one starts out liking the taste of beer or whisky.
Not to be needlessly contrary, but I really liked scotch the first time I tried it.
Something about the smoky flavor really struck a chord with me on a primal level. Can't disagree about beer though; it took me a while to be able to acquire that particular taste.
Also, Jim Jeffries is one of my favorite comedians of all time. Nice clip!
Agreed with MR here, I'm a lover of smoke is most of its forms (smoked fish, chargrilled foods, woodsmoke fires) so I'm quite a scotch fan.
Irish whiskey, meh.
You must love papayas then. Like dousing a mango in liquid smoke.
I think the LG part of the name is kind of important to clarify naturally-born men and women too. This scene has all sorts of partakers, after all
I thought of another question. Again, remember the disclaimer What's the general consensus on BDSM (bondage and discipline, dominance and submission, sadism and masochism)? For those not in the know, it's all that stuff you see involving leather, whips and chains. Do you think it's abuse regardless of context? Does the emotional control element or use of slavery as a concept cross a line that seems unreasonable? Sound off!
Whatever you do with a consenting adult in your bedroom is your business as long as you aren't harming anyone in the process is fine is probably going to be my stock answer for all of these questions.
I'm not into it though, since I don't enjoy receiving or inflicting pain.
You want to smell something try formaldehyde, that stuff burns like high heaven and this reminds me that I need to take a shower now because I still smell like the stuff from this morning.
I'm the dude who never uses gloves, picks hot things up with his bare hands, never uses fume hoods, spills probably dangerous chemicals on his hands and curses a LOT during any practical work.
Funnily enough I get straight 100% marks in all practical assessments though.
That reminds me of a class I had... the teacher complained about a student who took in nitrogylcerine and blew it up under a fume hood to impress his girlfriend.
During a lab that he wasn't a part of.
Without warning.
She had to add in several sections to the code fo conduct for her class after that...
That is pretty hilarious. The worst I ever saw was students throwing the gel that is used for DNA analysis around. (I forget the correct name, sadly). Stuff is a really potent mutagen, and they were picking up globs of it. Dopes.
corpsesarefun wrote:Yeah I've accidentally spilled many carcinogens on my hands
Most of the time this is not actually a problem unless they're very powerful carcinogens.
Still not a good thing of course...
Things like mercury, that's never fun. Organic solvents are never fun either, goes right through your skin's keratin and into your body. Anyways I smell like apricots now, much better than formaldehyde.
corpsesarefun wrote:All of them were organic solvents...
I'm slightly concerned now actually
Oh well when your body starts to not work at age 40 at least you'll know why.
But yes organic solvents are horrendous, your skin's keratin can stop most inorganic nasties but that organic stuff can't be bothered to even pay the toll.
The gloves are really hard to put on and make me sweat buckets though
Nitrile gloves? Usually its the heat from whatever you're messing with that makes you sweat. Either that or you get your hands wet with the gloves on and it feels wet without actually being wet, now goggles on the other hand have always been the bane of my existence.
Billinator wrote:So uhm... How did this change from acceptance of homosexuals to dissolving people in acidic fluids?
Well, as long as you keep it romantic! <3
If homosexuality can be caused by genetics and acids can denature proteins and cause mutations then there is a slim chance in hell that by sticking your finger into an organic solvent you can become a homosexual.
Melissia wrote:It's well known that the slipperiest of slopes is, in fact..
... your mother!
How rude!
Monster Rain wrote:
Billinator wrote:So uhm... How did this change from acceptance of homosexuals to dissolving people in acidic fluids?
Because it's a slippery slope! A slippery slope, I tell you!
Well i do like slippery! It reminds me of when i first had and she . Splendid!
- Surprised was i, when i found out she pulled a on me! If you know what i mean?!
Melissia wrote:It's well known that the slipperiest of slopes is, in fact..
... your mother!
How rude!
Monster Rain wrote:
Billinator wrote:So uhm... How did this change from acceptance of homosexuals to dissolving people in acidic fluids?
Because it's a slippery slope! A slippery slope, I tell you!
Well i do like slippery! It reminds me of when i first had and she . Splendid!
- Surprised was i, when i found out she pulled a on me! If you know what i mean?!
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Bank 2) made it for me
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Are the nitrile gloves at all latex based? If not I may pick some up.
It's okay, it's okay! We accept you for WHAT you are!
I myself have got this bad habit of, unconsciously, eating wool... Gives for some horrible stomach aches.
- This one time i ate as much, i crapped a cardigan the following day!
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Billinator wrote:
Melissia wrote:It's well known that the slipperiest of slopes is, in fact..
... your mother!
How rude!
Monster Rain wrote:
Billinator wrote:So uhm... How did this change from acceptance of homosexuals to dissolving people in acidic fluids?
Because it's a slippery slope! A slippery slope, I tell you!
Well i do like slippery! It reminds me of when i first had and she . Splendid!
- Surprised was i, when i found out she pulled a on me! If you know what i mean?!
Blank 1) Sandwich
Bank 2) made it for me
Blank 3) gun
Ntrile gloves aren't latex based, AFAIK. They do turn yellow on the inside when you sweat in them, I know that! It's fascinating in a disgusting kind of way.
I find gingers very attractive, although only female ones; male gingers don't appeal to me, although that might be because i've never really come across one that really piqued my interests.
Avatar 720 wrote:I find gingers very attractive, although only female ones; male gingers don't appeal to me, although that might be because i've never really come across one that really piqued my interests.
I agree with this, mousey blonde is brown is far more attractive on a male.
Avatar 720 wrote:I find gingers very attractive, although only female ones; male gingers don't appeal to me, although that might be because i've never really come across one that really piqued my interests.
I agree with this, mousey blonde is brown is far more attractive on a male.
Meh, blonde doesn't look that good on anyone IMO...
Then you're emo and people will assume that your last words were "My parents didn't get me that car I wanted." or something about Hot Topic. Told you, you just can't win.
I personally have sex with men, women animals. And lately! I've been experimenting with inanimate objects.
A bass guitar has a nice tight hole that I can -just- poke through.
And i've been chronically masturbating since I was 11. I have a right arm that is hulking. I mainly use it for arm wrestling tournaments with rednecks and steroid junkies. It's my main source of income.
I dunno, i've been feeling really hormonal lately... And sick... and i've had random cravings for things, but that's normal for me... Plus I swear my boobs have gotten bigger...
Don't worry as soon as i'm done felling trees in the Canadian wilderness i'll come feel that supple tender flesh underneath my hairy large arm. The little one can feth off. Need to do some weights or get into strangers.
Avatar 720 wrote:I dunno, i've been feeling really hormonal lately... And sick... and i've had random cravings for things, but that's normal for me... Plus I swear my boobs have gotten bigger...
Shadowbrand wrote:Oh~ Lucy~
Don't worry as soon as i'm done felling trees in the Canadian wilderness i'll come feel that supple tender flesh underneath my hairy large arm. The little one can feth off. Need to do some weights or get into strangers.
Don't worry as soon as i'm done felling trees in the Canadian wilderness i'll come feel that supple tender flesh underneath my hairy large arm. The little one can feth off. Need to do some weights or get into strangers.
I shall wait for you, my loins ache for your presence!
Ah, I see you became a ginger for us to test those out. How noble a sacrifice. Your willingness to sacrifice your sexuality and manhood for the board will be remembered.
No affect on buoyancy? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure that most girls who drown/get eaten by fish in films are blonde, surely they're less capable in liquid environments?
Avatar 720 wrote:No affect on buoyancy? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure that most girls who drown/get eaten by fish in films are blonde, surely they're less capable in liquid environments?
Actions taken by potentially hostile fluids have no effect on the physical properties of the victims.
Water doesn't discriminate.
Melissia wrote:Ah, I see you became a ginger for us to test those out. How noble a sacrifice. Your willingness to sacrifice your sexuality and manhood for the board will be remembered.
The second this dye washes out and I can feel again, I'll probably be angry about this.
Oh for BDSM... dunno? Maybe if it was with someone I trusted?
Somehow I imagine myself to be the one doing the tying up, rather than being constrained. Kinda makes me uncomfortable-- though that might be the point to some people.
Melissia wrote:Oh for BDSM... dunno? Maybe if it was with someone I trusted?
Somehow I imagine myself to be the one doing the tying up, rather than being constrained. Kinda makes me uncomfortable-- though that might be the point to some people.
I've heard it said that a lot of BSDM is based on trust, and not on pain. I'm not so sure, but I damn well can see why trust is an issue.
I swear at some point in the past there was a news item on a businessman who was being "serviced", including being tied to the bed, when the fire alarms went off and his "help" left him there. Then again my mind does lie to me for kicks.
There is a rather annoying factor of being left almost completely prone. Safewords are obviously necessary, but even they aren't foolproof, i've heard of many instances where partners didn't hear them, or couldn't say them.
There's a lot riding on being able to utter a phrase, too much for my liking.
Avatar 720 wrote:There is a rather annoying factor of being left almost completely prone. Safewords are obviously necessary, but even they aren't foolproof, i've heard of many instances where partners didn't hear them, or couldn't say them.
There's a lot riding on being able to utter a phrase, too much for my liking.
And the other person then accepting it and acting accordingly. It's not something people should do with someone they haven't met before in my opinion..
I'm too ticklish to be tied up... been there, done that, never going back... I still like being bitten though...
This whole thread needs to follow this officious advice:
Spoiler:
I'm gonna take my time mmime! She gon' get hers before I... Im gonna take it slow..ow..oo..ow, Im not gonna rush to stroll, so she can get a... Sensual seduction-duction so I can get a.. Sensual seduction-duction ooh whoa! So we can get a sensual seduction-duction duction Sensual seduction-duction ooh whoa!
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
I thought of another question. Again, remember the disclaimer What's the general consensus on BDSM (bondage and discipline, dominance and submission, sadism and masochism)? For those not in the know, it's all that stuff you see involving leather, whips and chains. Do you think it's abuse regardless of context? Does the emotional control element or use of slavery as a concept cross a line that seems unreasonable? Sound off!
Sexual fetishes are for losers. Just give me good old-fashioned 'penis-in-vagina' any day.
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
I thought of another question. Again, remember the disclaimer What's the general consensus on BDSM (bondage and discipline, dominance and submission, sadism and masochism)? For those not in the know, it's all that stuff you see involving leather, whips and chains. Do you think it's abuse regardless of context? Does the emotional control element or use of slavery as a concept cross a line that seems unreasonable? Sound off!
Sexual fetishes are for losers. Just give me good old-fashioned 'penis-in-vagina' any day.
Your "good old-fashioned" ideals of sex disgust bukkake enthusiasts
I got rhymes I love to bust looking for a club to rush
It’s like thugs will rush the illustrious
We all love to touch the voluptuous
It’s a must that we lust, plus we love to crush
Women pose, from timberland’s to feminine clothes
Check there portfolios and put’em in centerfolds
Pen explode, draw crowds respond re-el I stay calm as hell surrounded by bombshells
Careful as I get near’em, stand near and compare’em
Or all girl heirem, I’m the man with the serum
Assets, probably dressed but still bear’em
It seem like they wear’em, just for me to tear’em
In quakes I see more things shake then spring break
It’s like a dream state, perfect shape same date
You got a lot to give and look how hot it is, you so provocative
And it’s your prerogative. baby bounce.
Bon jour, baby here go my brochure
Give me a phone call, I’ll show you the whole store
It’s so raw, I’ll have your world in all
You wanna know how much the whole package go for?
My spectactale, like a festival, it’s majestical, special guest for you
Ready to party hard the party’s in yards to the mardygraud
Rap say on’s, please give you a body massage
Rock jams, have you hot in your pants and nasty
Forbidden dance with me? or tickle your there see
Let ra take you on a ron day vue
Couple of days will do if it’s o.k. with you
Deserted isle style middle of winter with no bed
I’ll comfort you like you were jennifer lopez
You get what you deserve if I said we swerve
I’ll hit more than nerve and that’s my every word. baby bounce.
Baby you wake up the next day laungary negligee
Give you a sex ex-ray before we catch the rays
Let’s blaze a lot more games left to play
While you still amazed from yesterday’s escapades
Steadily show my pedigree so thoroughly to the b-o-n-e like chemotherapy
Sex and triple x you ready to wed next, relax baby you need plenty of bed rest
You’ve been a passenger of a high speed crash with a wild style fashioner
Dark skinned ambassador, chiropractor with a passion
For smashin’ your ass like a cardiovascular massacre.
You’ve be through shock heading at your cu-wop
Body’so hot, you need a shot from your new doc.
With better cures where’s it sore I’ll wetter more.
And let it pour from her to head to her peticular’s, baby bounce.
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
I thought of another question. Again, remember the disclaimer What's the general consensus on BDSM (bondage and discipline, dominance and submission, sadism and masochism)? For those not in the know, it's all that stuff you see involving leather, whips and chains. Do you think it's abuse regardless of context? Does the emotional control element or use of slavery as a concept cross a line that seems unreasonable? Sound off!
Sexual fetishes are for losers. Just give me good old-fashioned 'penis-in-vagina' any day.
I seriously dunno how you do it. I just... couldn't. Curious, why are you so opposed to fetishes?
People are a lot more easy with "weirdness" than I expected. It's interesting
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MrDwhitey wrote:I've heard it said that a lot of BSDM is based on trust, and not on pain. I'm not so sure, but I damn well can see why trust is an issue.
I swear at some point in the past there was a news item on a businessman who was being "serviced", including being tied to the bed, when the fire alarms went off and his "help" left him there. Then again my mind does lie to me for kicks.
Generally people don't do it with just random people. The "professional" ones are a completely different story than casual dabblers IMO.
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Avatar 720 wrote:There is a rather annoying factor of being left almost completely prone. Safewords are obviously necessary, but even they aren't foolproof, i've heard of many instances where partners didn't hear them, or couldn't say them.
There's a lot riding on being able to utter a phrase, too much for my liking.
Not everything you do is life threatening and body language goes a really long way. Basically, whoever has said this is a repeat issue is probably a moron about it to begin with. Most of it involves subdual damage so to speak.
Homo or no homo, they have five fingers two eyes and one heart, that's good enough for me. As for gay experience, I have none, (except Will & Grace, love that show) so I therefore don't know anything about it. Don't know, so I don't care. We can either live alongside each other as human beings or fall to discussing similarities (being human) and differences until we find each other so unacceptable that a call to exorcism is in order.
I like nice normal, run of the mill sexual encounters, such as placing a coarse burlap sack over my head and jamming my testicles into a vice, while an obese woman wearing a gas mask and a pair of oven gloves slaps my arse cheeks with a flip flop.
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I thought of another question. Again, remember the disclaimer What's the general consensus on BDSM (bondage and discipline, dominance and submission, sadism and masochism)? For those not in the know, it's all that stuff you see involving leather, whips and chains. Do you think it's abuse regardless of context? Does the emotional control element or use of slavery as a concept cross a line that seems unreasonable? Sound off!
Personally, between two, or more, consenting people, I couldn't care what you do, with whoever or whatever, as long as its private.
That aside, I've heard the argument that from an evolutionary standpoint homosexuality is a means of the weaker of the species culling themselves by not reproducing. I wouldn't call that one traditionally religious at all.
I guess I've outgrown vitriolic punditry... Other than making his fans say "Hell yeah!" what was accomplished by that article?
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