Lol I'm not sure they can make them much better but we will definitely lose some of our goodies but get new goodies to replace them I'm gonna miss power of the machine spirit predators.they are like the Spanish Inquisition (not the be confused with the grey knight variety).

My personal problem isn't that we can't compete, because we can, even though it's an uphill battle (Space Wolves can go feth themselves though...). It's that our most competetive build is gunline missile spam. I don't want to have to play gunline missile spam as the most CC-focused Marine Chapter to be able to fight back reasonably!

Also, anyone who thinks that Daemonhunters were "very effective" or that 3rd ed Space Wolves were better in 5th than Tau need to report to the Inquisition for correctional therapy.

Finally, Abhor the Witch is FAR from an army-wide psychic hood. It doesn't shut down buffs, which is more or less the best category of psychic powers, including stuff like Fortune, Guide, Sanctuary, Force Weapons, Shrouding, Hammerhand, Might of Titan, Gate of Infinity etc.

Kharnflakes wrote:actually the rumors on whats the next few codices are has varied almost daily. supposedly da, templar, and tau are all already done according to the rumor mill.

That's actually untrue. The more trustworthy rumormongers(i.e. the ones who don't alter what they say "almost daily") have Chaos and Dark Angels as "done", with Templars and Tau "being worked on".

and your reasoning for why sisters and grey knights got the new and shiny is the same reason i'm saying the templars will too.

Sisters didn't get "the new and shiny" though. No model releases, no army book, nothing but an army list.

and since you mentioned the faqs please allow me to point out that both the tau and templars were left untouched in the jan overhaul of faqs. whether or not that means something is probably debatable but i think its a good indicator for what is next.

It's also, y'know, a good indicator that the FAQ might not need anything more.
Black Templars, as it stands, are supposed to be a fairly "good" book right now with quite a few variant lists which can be used effectively. Dark Angels and Chaos aren't, effectively pigeonholing you into a corner when using the book.

also sixth is rumored to be the final main rules edition. (probably need a bucket of salt with that one but who knows) and if that is the case then getting the older codices update would be a priority for gw.

If that were true, Sisters of Battle would have been released by now.

I don't want a named Emperor's Champion, I think that is stupid. The whole point of it is suppose to be someone who got a vision and for THAT battle and THAT battle alone, is the EC. Otherwise, you are not an EC. Also, they should NOT be allowed to choose from special armor, I like that they get what they get.

I'm fine with our vehicles being expensive, as they should be. Being apart from the normal IoM material chain line should have a draw back with certain things being expensive.

I would also hate if there was an EC Dreadnought, for exactly the same reason as it should not be a Special Character. Dreadnought would not be getting the vision because they are in statsis.

Other things aside, GW please keep our rerolls in CC combat!!!! I would like some real Neophyte models as well.

You know this thread has been dead for 3 months, right? Without info to add, it just excites BT lovers and crushes our hopes.

I got all sorts of excited.... oh well....

timetowaste85 wrote:You know this thread has been dead for 3 months, right? Without info to add, it just excites BT lovers and crushes our hopes.

Sorry, that was my bad. This was my first time seeing this thread and I just wanted to add my thoughts since I finally finished reading all the pages.