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DotA 2 @ 2012/06/28 23:36:59


Post by: MrDwhitey


Nope to both.



DotA 2 @ 2012/07/04 23:39:29


Post by: Slarg232


Undying and Disrupter just got added to Test.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/05 00:01:00


Post by: Vendetta 476


If there is a group, can I join you guys?


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/05 00:11:41


Post by: MrDwhitey


No, because we hate you.

(I've only played with Slarg. )


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/05 00:19:29


Post by: Avatar 720


Who hasn't played with Slarg?

I'll go now.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/05 00:58:25


Post by: Slarg232


Avatar 720 wrote:Who hasn't played with Slarg?

I'll go now.


Your mom has


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/05 04:31:01


Post by: Sasori


Both Heroes I'm very happy are being introduced. Can't say I'm a fan of Disruptor's model, but it's alright.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/05 04:56:46


Post by: Vendetta 476


MrDwhitey wrote:No, because we hate you.

(I've only played with Slarg. )




DotA 2 @ 2012/07/05 13:12:50


Post by: MrDwhitey




I'm happy to play with anyone on Dota 2 to be honest.

Also, I can't wait to play Dirge. Have been getting a lot of mileage out of Zeus lately though. Aghanims and Refresher Orb = Hilarity on him.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/07 06:27:09


Post by: Sasori


I love playing Lycan and Luna. I've also enjoyed a few games with Undying and Disruptor. A good Disruptor is just so nice to have on a team as well.

I haven't played wisp yet, but I'm not a fan of Hard supports.

Had a really good game as Luna here
http://stats.dota2.be/match/24399731


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/07 07:01:03


Post by: Karon


I basically have to play support all the time. If I want to play without my group of mates, I just have to deal with a team of 3+ carries with me as Venomancer/Ancient Apparition/Earthshaker, etc.

With the bracket switchup, I was moved down to Mariana Trench bracket for a reason I cannot fathom.

On my way back up to High/Very High. I love playing games with the pros.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/07 07:10:47


Post by: Sasori


Karon wrote:I basically have to play support all the time. If I want to play without my group of mates, I just have to deal with a team of 3+ carries with me as Venomancer/Ancient Apparition/Earthshaker, etc.

With the bracket switchup, I was moved down to Mariana Trench bracket for a reason I cannot fathom.

On my way back up to High/Very High. I love playing games with the pros.


What's your I.D.? I'd like to see some of your Very High games.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/07 07:58:10


Post by: Swordwind


I always play support, except for the very rare games where some people on my team manage to random supports. Pity the only carry I really know how to play is OD.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/07 07:59:52


Post by: Karon


Sasori wrote:
Karon wrote:I basically have to play support all the time. If I want to play without my group of mates, I just have to deal with a team of 3+ carries with me as Venomancer/Ancient Apparition/Earthshaker, etc.

With the bracket switchup, I was moved down to Mariana Trench bracket for a reason I cannot fathom.

On my way back up to High/Very High. I love playing games with the pros.


What's your I.D.? I'd like to see some of your Very High games.


I'm not HIgh/Very high yet. I'm in Normal(AKA Mariana Trench) bracket along with 90% of the playerbase it seems.

When I get there, I'll be more than happy to show you my 5 stacked games.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/07 08:03:55


Post by: Sasori


Karon wrote:
Sasori wrote:
Karon wrote:I basically have to play support all the time. If I want to play without my group of mates, I just have to deal with a team of 3+ carries with me as Venomancer/Ancient Apparition/Earthshaker, etc.

With the bracket switchup, I was moved down to Mariana Trench bracket for a reason I cannot fathom.

On my way back up to High/Very High. I love playing games with the pros.


What's your I.D.? I'd like to see some of your Very High games.


I'm not HIgh/Very high yet. I'm in Normal(AKA Mariana Trench) bracket along with 90% of the playerbase it seems.

When I get there, I'll be more than happy to show you my 5 stacked games.


Well, you mentioned that you loved playing with pros, it seemed to imply that you were High/Very high.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/07 21:10:01


Post by: Slarg232


So who all will I have to watch out for when Lord of Avernus comes out? I only played Accursed twice and fell in love with him, so I'm not sure who to watch out for....

Ancient Apparition seemed to be a top one, until I remembered that my sheild will get rid of the No Heal Debuff.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/08 15:37:41


Post by: Swordwind


Apparently it doesn't remove the debuff accordning to a Reddit thread I read. It stops you losing life but you can't heal up either.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/11 15:11:00


Post by: rockerbikie


I might give it a shot. Is Anti-Mage any different this time around?


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/11 16:45:55


Post by: Swordwind


AM is exactly the same as in DotA 1. I don't think he's had many changes recently either.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/12 03:24:14


Post by: Sasori


Well, this week brings us Lanaya, the Templar Assassain.

Here is the Dota Cinema vid



I've honestly never played her, so I'm going to read up a few guides, and play a few bot rounds, before hitting her up. She seems like a pretty good Solo mid.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/12 08:43:38


Post by: Swordwind


One of my friends is an absolute god with her. I now refuse to play against him in private games when she's available to pick.

I played a DotA 1 game today as Visage. He's quite fun, and I can't wait until he's out in DotA 2.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/12 16:16:51


Post by: Soladrin


Sasori wrote:Well, this week brings us Lanaya, the Templar Assassain.

Here is the Dota Cinema vid



I've honestly never played her, so I'm going to read up a few guides, and play a few bot rounds, before hitting her up. She seems like a pretty good Solo mid.


She's a royal pain in the arse.

Extreme range slow traps, invisible with critical hits and damage buff and armor reduction.... ugh...


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/13 08:05:37


Post by: chaoticautumn


in a word ,dota 1 is better than dota 2,You know evony? perfect, the evony team is now developing a new game tynon featuring city building, farm managing and quest doing, and this game is quite similiar to the browser mmo odin quest by youjoy. Well, these two games are great. just check my review or video and screenshots for these browser mmo games.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/13 08:52:42


Post by: Swordwind


That's seven, if you count numbers as words.

Care to say why you think so?


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/13 09:54:44


Post by: His Master's Voice


Possibly because most Chinese can't play Dota2 yet. A Pinto you can drive is better than a Lotus you don't have.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/13 18:15:47


Post by: Soladrin


Dota 1 is actually better.

Dota 2 is not nearly as fluid. For dota 1 players, it feels like theres always a slight delay to actions. Also, some attack animations became aweful.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/13 18:44:08


Post by: Karon


DotA is definitely better.

Once a couple things are worked out, including the things Soladrin mentioned, Dota2 will be better.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/15 17:06:20


Post by: His Master's Voice


Soladrin wrote:Dota 1 is actually better.


In terms of production values? Not even close.

And things like attack animations are design choices. Giving all heroes zero cast wouldn't suddenly make the game better.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/15 20:41:04


Post by: Soladrin


His Master's Voice wrote:
Soladrin wrote:Dota 1 is actually better.


In terms of production values? Not even close.

And things like attack animations are design choices. Giving all heroes zero cast wouldn't suddenly make the game better.


Well, looks like you haven't played Dota 1.

Production values mean nothing.

This has nothing to do with instant cast. Dota 2 has a tiny delay on every single action you take. For someone who's never played dota 1 this is a non issue. For everyone who has it's a giant pain in the arse. The game simply isn't as fluid.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/16 00:21:48


Post by: Karon


Soladrin wrote:
His Master's Voice wrote:
Soladrin wrote:Dota 1 is actually better.


In terms of production values? Not even close.

And things like attack animations are design choices. Giving all heroes zero cast wouldn't suddenly make the game better.


Well, looks like you haven't played Dota 1.

Production values mean nothing.

This has nothing to do with instant cast. Dota 2 has a tiny delay on every single action you take. For someone who's never played dota 1 this is a non issue. For everyone who has it's a giant pain in the arse. The game simply isn't as fluid.


And obviously the lack of imperative heroes is there as well.

DotA is just better. Once the delay is fixed and all the heroes are ported, then it will be superior.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/16 16:35:26


Post by: His Master's Voice


Soladrin wrote:This has nothing to do with instant cast.


You complained about attack animations which have everything to do with cast delay and are design choices. It's like complaining about reload times or scope in being longer in one FPS over another.

Soladrin wrote:Dota 2 has a tiny delay on every single action you take. For someone who's never played dota 1 this is a non issue. For everyone who has it's a giant pain in the arse. The game simply isn't as fluid.


There is an artificial 25 ms delay, but I don't see how that could influence anyone's perception of the game, unless you're somehow used to playing with sub 30 ping.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/19 01:16:22


Post by: Swordwind


Naga Siren is now out in the test client, and work on Visage has been found within the client.

I am very very happy.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/19 01:31:40


Post by: Slarg232


Honestly, VIsage looks pretty bad ass, but every time I get excited for a hero, they end up being totally wrong for me.

So Visage sucks.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/19 01:37:44


Post by: Karon


Still waiting for NA.

I do enjoy Naga being in the pool now. She is first pick/first ban material.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/19 02:51:29


Post by: Swordwind


I like getting Dagon on Visage. It's a hilarious dual nuke system. Blast with Dagon, get lots of soul charges for Soul Assumption, blast with Soul Assumption.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/24 00:31:14


Post by: MrDwhitey


I saw Siren for the first time on Dota 2 the other day. With Manta it was quite amusing to watch.

Also Axe is amazing, this educational video shows why:




DotA 2 @ 2012/07/26 01:58:01


Post by: Swordwind


Triple release in the test patch. Visage, Ezalor and Nyx are out now.

Two of the heroes I've been waiting for are out. As a frequent Pugna and OD player, though, Nyx scares the crap out of me.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/26 04:17:05


Post by: Sasori


Swordwind wrote:Triple release in the test patch. Visage, Ezalor and Nyx are out now.

Two of the heroes I've been waiting for are out. As a frequent Pugna and OD player, though, Nyx scares the crap out of me.


It also looks like we may be looking at the final pool for TI2, since according to Cyborgmatts blog, there were no new particle updates, or texture stuff. The only thing we got, were Minimap Icons for Meepo, and maybe Magnataur.



DotA 2 @ 2012/07/26 19:49:07


Post by: Slarg232


You know, KotL doesn't make sense to me. He deals more with mana than Light with his main spells, they should have put the skillset on something more like Outworld Destroyer.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/27 01:19:46


Post by: Swordwind


They wouldn't really synergise all that well with OD's skillset. He already has a pseudo-mana drain and a skill that provides mana to allies.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/27 01:21:07


Post by: Slarg232


Swordwind wrote:They wouldn't really synergise all that well with OD's skillset. He already has a pseudo-mana drain and a skill that provides mana to allies.


I meant another "Outworlder". Kinda like how Visage and Razor are linked.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/29 01:49:18


Post by: Slarg232


I think I finally figured out how to play Alchemist, just need to figure how to build him.

And I need to actually test it out on players. The bots have shown me about all they can...


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/29 10:32:31


Post by: Swordwind


Stack attack speed. Get to 0.23 seconds per attack during your ultimate. Laugh.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/30 10:42:24


Post by: Soladrin


His Master's Voice wrote:
Soladrin wrote:This has nothing to do with instant cast.


You complained about attack animations which have everything to do with cast delay and are design choices. It's like complaining about reload times or scope in being longer in one FPS over another.

Soladrin wrote:Dota 2 has a tiny delay on every single action you take. For someone who's never played dota 1 this is a non issue. For everyone who has it's a giant pain in the arse. The game simply isn't as fluid.


There is an artificial 25 ms delay, but I don't see how that could influence anyone's perception of the game, unless you're somehow used to playing with sub 30 ping.


My avarage ping in most MP games is below 20.

And that makes all the difference. The point is, it's not the same as the original dota and thus theres still A LOT of players who aren't even bothering to switch over.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/31 00:19:06


Post by: Sasori


I love playing Naga Siren, I had forgotten how awesome she is, she can do just about everything. Great hero, and a blast to play.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/31 04:15:16


Post by: Swordwind


I tried Ursa yesterday. He is too easy, especially when comboed with Wisp. Tp into enemy jungle, find enemy, kill. Rinse, repeat.

Too easy, I say.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/31 10:19:17


Post by: Soladrin


Ezalor, that is all.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/31 17:34:47


Post by: Sasori


Soladrin wrote:Ezalor, that is all.


Not a big fan of him, honestly, at least in Pubs.

He probably has one of the best, if not the best laning phases in the game, but if you don't have a good team, he pretty much becomes useless.


DotA 2 @ 2012/07/31 20:59:58


Post by: Karon


Sasori wrote:
Soladrin wrote:Ezalor, that is all.


Not a big fan of him, honestly, at least in Pubs.

He probably has one of the best, if not the best laning phases in the game, but if you don't have a good team, he pretty much becomes useless.


That's why you have a buddy who plays Lycan and can take double rax in 22 minutes.


DotA 2 @ 2012/08/01 10:09:30


Post by: Soladrin


Sasori wrote:
Soladrin wrote:Ezalor, that is all.


Not a big fan of him, honestly, at least in Pubs.

He probably has one of the best, if not the best laning phases in the game, but if you don't have a good team, he pretty much becomes useless.


Couldn't agree less with you. Due to how strong he is laning phase and how good he is at pushing/farming you can just get so many support items.

Also, no matter how strong someone is, they will run from you if you channel XD

But yeah my build:
Boots of Travel
Meka
Force Staff
Sheepstick
Euls

Last one depends on match up.

He has so much crowd control with that set up. I also just love pushing people around with forcestaff and that ult ability.


DotA 2 @ 2012/08/02 05:09:01


Post by: Swordwind


I tried laning him with Sven yesterday so that Sven could pump out gakloads of Storm Hammers.

Didn't go so well.


DotA 2 @ 2012/08/03 02:02:38


Post by: Slarg232


Just played a game where I was Phantom Lancer, and I ended up being fed enough to get Diffusal, Manta, Vanguard, Tranqual Shoes, and Something Else.

I literally soloed the entire enemy team, consisting of Pudge, Anti-Mage, Death Prophet, Clockwerk, and Tidehunter....

I'm in love.


DotA 2 @ 2012/08/03 08:24:27


Post by: Swordwind


The few times I play Phantom Lancer I always seem to have a Lone Druid against me, and once he has a Radiance I'm screwed.