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The Imperium invading Vanilla Marvel Earth @ 2012/05/10 03:29:34


Post by: Durza


timetowaste85 wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:
timetowaste85 wrote:

Not an attack (so please don't take it as such, given our previous back-and-forth), but are you finally on our side that Marvel would win? Your statement here seems to suggest your conversion.


I'm at the point where I believe a standard Imperial invasion force would be crushed instantly. The only thing the Imperium has going for it is an extensive Callidus infiltration, much like Secret Invasion, but probably replacing human loved-ones etc instead. Since the OP has said that we can't use resources that wouldn't normally be available, so we could only get our hands on one or two for an invasion like this, and that's probably not enough unless they were given years to work with and very lucky.

Could Spidey's spider-sense detect a perfect imposter? I'm not sure how it worked during Secret Invasion, and it should be kept in mind that the Callidus are probably better at this than the Skrull. True, they can't replicate superpowers, but they would be proof against the counter-measures that SWORD has developed.

EDIT: And as for our back-and-forth, things tend to sometimes get heated especially in 'X vs Y' conversations.


To answer your question about Spidey's spider-sense, yes and no. He'll recognize danger, but not necessarily WHO is setting it off. Spidey is actually out of his league in this fight-if "Mary Jane" showed up and his senses went off, he'd be looking at the sky-not at the dagger in his back.

Isn't the spider sense essentially an insanely enhanced reflex? Even if he wasn't expecting the attack to come from MJ, he'd still dodge it automatically. Besides, they'd need him to keep up a banter with Deadpool between fights.

And for the Marvel Zombies stuff...yeah, they went zombie and zombified the heroes and ate the regular people. Then they ate the Silver Surfer, gained his power, killed and ate Galactus and gained his power. Do you REALLY want Galactified zombies running around? Thought not.

Also, that situation ignores the condition that it's the Imperium attacking Marvel Earth, not the massed forces of 40k.
And as for the many universes where the guys die...I'm 95% sure that the Hulk hasn't died in ANY of them. The only way he can die is old age (maybe). I wouldn't place money on that though.

I don't think Wolverine's ever died properly either. The only way to kill him currently is with a magic sword he gave Cyclops.


The Imperium invading Vanilla Marvel Earth @ 2012/05/10 03:29:55


Post by: Hunterindarkness


Yep but all those where older Hulks. Not the ones kicking around when the OP placed the attack. The current Hulks over power them all.


The Imperium invading Vanilla Marvel Earth @ 2012/05/10 03:38:06


Post by: Durza


Grunt13 wrote:Alternate earths IIRC:
Punisher killed the hulk in two separate stories, wolverine killed the hulk in two separate stories, bruce banner killed a hulk general russ, hulk killed a future version of himself (earth 616) Another non-banner hulk was killed by nick fury - just off the top of my head.

All of which are people with experience dealing with the Hulk. The Imperium wouldn't have any clue about what was happening until they were smashed. Though imagine if some Orks found him. They'd thing Gork or Mork had become real to help them.


The Imperium invading Vanilla Marvel Earth @ 2012/05/10 03:41:20


Post by: Hunterindarkness


Ya know.the Hulk leading a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH would be so bad ass words can not describe it.


The Imperium invading Vanilla Marvel Earth @ 2012/05/10 03:45:26


Post by: Lorek


With no real parity between the universes, there's no real way to determine any of this. I'm going to lock this before it gets ugly.