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If the military could mass produce one thing from 40k, what would it be? @ 2015/04/09 17:17:49


Post by: Bobthehero

Why do we assume SM PA?

There's plenty of examples of human sized PA and even Terminator/Artificer armor


If the military could mass produce one thing from 40k, what would it be? @ 2015/04/09 17:21:53


Post by: Da Stormlord

UPDATE TO THREAD

I am deleting 5 of the options with the lowest scores on the list and replacing them with new more advanced tech


If the military could mass produce one thing from 40k, what would it be? @ 2015/04/09 17:46:57


Post by: A Town Called Malus

 Otto Weston wrote:
 Melissia wrote:
 Grey Templar wrote:
Protection against Asteroids was already stated. They'd also give some protection from solar radiation.
So nothing, really.


How can you say that? Asteroids are a significant problem in space travel, hell, even a coin sized piece could wreck the ISS. Radiation is a problem for long periods in space and on planetoids without sufficient protection. Mars colonization plans have to take into account radiation and the best they've come up with yet is burying the living areas underground like bunkers. Also, the Shields would protect against dust-storms which would damage equipment/ cause great deals of wear.



And how much energy does it take to power one of these shields? Willing to bet it is more than the entire ISS needs with all its current systems. Why make a super expensive shield around a mars colony if building it underground is cheaper? You're already going to need to be underground if you want access to any water that Mars may have.


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 Iron_Captain wrote:
And because Tau stealth suits make it hard to hold guns.
Therefore, unless the stealth suit tech also comes with Tau weapon tech, the power armour is better.


Tau XV15 stealth armour had the Burst cannon attached on one arm but the other hand was just gloved/plated. So no, the Tau stealth armour would not necessarily make it harder to hold a weapon. We can safely assume that the burst cannon is probably detachable to allow it to be attached to either arm, depending on what arm the wearer finds more preferable (since the GW models had some with the BC on the left and some on the right).


If the military could mass produce one thing from 40k, what would it be? @ 2015/04/09 18:01:19


Post by: Desubot

 Da Stormlord wrote:
UPDATE TO THREAD

I am deleting 5 of the options with the lowest scores on the list and replacing them with new more advanced tech


Thats a pretty terrible way to run a poll since we can only vote once..


If the military could mass produce one thing from 40k, what would it be? @ 2015/04/09 18:19:59


Post by: Iron_Captain

 Desubot wrote:
 Da Stormlord wrote:
UPDATE TO THREAD

I am deleting 5 of the options with the lowest scores on the list and replacing them with new more advanced tech


Thats a pretty terrible way to run a poll since we can only vote once..

Yeah, you would have to allow multiple votes, everyone has already voted by now.


If the military could mass produce one thing from 40k, what would it be? @ 2015/04/09 20:03:53


Post by: Ignatius

Desubot wrote:
 Ignatius wrote:


I could go down the list and give practical reasons things wouldn't be as beneficial as they sound but that would take way too long.


But thats half the fun.


What I mean is I don't have the time to

The planning of a Field Training Exercise unfortunately takes precedence over tearing apart the practical uses of 40k technology.

Iron_Captain wrote:
 Desubot wrote:
 Da Stormlord wrote:
UPDATE TO THREAD

I am deleting 5 of the options with the lowest scores on the list and replacing them with new more advanced tech


Thats a pretty terrible way to run a poll since we can only vote once..

Yeah, you would have to allow multiple votes, everyone has already voted by now.


I haven't

(Nor will I)


If the military could mass produce one thing from 40k, what would it be? @ 2015/04/09 21:35:47


Post by: endlesswaltz123

 Ignatius wrote:
By military I assume you mean a Western military. And since I am in one of those, then I'll put my thoughts into what I think would best serve our purpose.

Any technology would be mostly picked based on:
1) Cost of manufacture, maintenance, and replacement
2) Ease of transportation, size, and weight
3) How useful a product would be to the frontline soldier
4) How understandable its use would be to the average soldier
5) How little it falling into the enemies hands would hinder the mission of the unit

I couldn't choose any of the things listed in the poll because they are flawed stacked up against one of the things listed above, or their jobs are performed better by what we have today (M1 Abrams > Leman Russ).

If I had to make a choice to transfer one of the things on the list to today, I'd probably pick the communication devices that the common guardsmen have (the little radios in their helmets so we don't have to lug around giant radios to talk to each other) because they are apparently mass produce-able enough for them to give to guardsmen- or the pict-slate table things that project that holo-gram in war rooms. Something like that would massively help the planning process.

I could go down the list and give practical reasons things wouldn't be as beneficial as they sound but that would take way too long.


Whilst I don't disagree with you in terms of development of current or near future/feesible technologies by the worlds current militaries, they also have always had or most likely found room in the budget for special high tech things, that in turn advance the current day tech across vast areas. I'm not going to harp on about power armour again as I don't want to be a broken record but it's not just that that would advance the tech of the world indirectly. A leman russ for example, they have one of the most ridiculous engines to ever exist in universe time line, it can practically run on anything, wood, oil, coal, garbage, basically any fossil fuel plus many other unknown amounts of fuel. Are you saying that wouldn't be useful to current world tech, and wouldn't pay for itself via releasing it's patent for licensing to the open markets? That's a small time example of the technologies within the items. Even if you had an imperial knight with no offensive capability, the ability to reverse engineer a machine that is controlled mainly via your thoughts via neural linking? Advanced, nimble and delicate prosthetics capable of gross and minute motor function just had it's technology advanced via 10 years at least, 50 years in reality.


If the military could mass produce one thing from 40k, what would it be? @ 2015/04/10 09:22:35


Post by: Furyou Miko

EmpNortonII wrote:

Aside from assuming that stealth suits work differently because you don't have proof they work the same, you DO realize that SM power armor is worthless without the black carapace, right?


We're assuming that the Black Carapace technology comes as part and parcel with the Power Armour, which means that Power Armour comes with insanely good cybernetic surgery technology, I believe.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:This is due to all the technology that is accompanied in the suit along with the protection, increased strength, senses, power, speed etc etc. I mean, develop power armour, you have fusion reactors readily available, just reverse engineer them and expand them. That clears up 99.99% of the worlds energy needs and problem right there.


Except that we just proved that Lasgun power pack technology is even better, because you need an insane amount of energy to produce a weapons-grade laser beam, and they can apparently extract this energy from the sun. What's better? Clean but not-quite-infinite energy from fusion tech that fits in a backpack, or clean, infinite solar energy that fits in a cigarette carton?

A Town Called Malus wrote:
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 Iron_Captain wrote:
And because Tau stealth suits make it hard to hold guns.
Therefore, unless the stealth suit tech also comes with Tau weapon tech, the power armour is better.


Tau XV15 stealth armour had the Burst cannon attached on one arm but the other hand was just gloved/plated. So no, the Tau stealth armour would not necessarily make it harder to hold a weapon. We can safely assume that the burst cannon is probably detachable to allow it to be attached to either arm, depending on what arm the wearer finds more preferable (since the GW models had some with the BC on the left and some on the right).


We have proof that some models of Stealth suit have manipulator hands and detachable weaponry (Last of Kiru's Line). We also have proof that XV-15s can wear the burst cannon on either arm (models), which implies that it's more of a locked-on overgauntlet than a hand-replacement.