kodos wrote:

Davor wrote:

It also says talk to your opponent and play like you want. So change rules, ignore rules if we so like. Why is wrong with that? Oh yeah, we need to talk and be social.

I see, I need to pay GW to be allowed to create my own rules to play with their models.

[MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - ALPHARIUS] Like really do you need to be told how to have fun?

You telling me grown men who want to play can't change the rules while kids do it all the time so they can have more fun? What are you not getting? Changing a rule to have more fun is perfectly fine. Changing a rules in a game that is unbalanced and poorly writing is perfectly fine. What are you not getting here? Nothing wrong in changing rules to have more fun. Not everyone is going to agree what is fun. For some people love hunting and it's fun for them. Others it's not. Others love tennis, hockey or what ever. Others not. We are all here because we like/love 40K. Thing is not all the rules are fun for everyone. So what is wrong with changing a few rules to have more fun?

But why do I need to buy rules for 200 if I still need to create my own rules.
What is the reason to buy their rulebook.

Fair point. The thing is, and you should perfectly know the rules are a guide line. GW even says so. You should be knowing that you are not buying a perfect set of rules, and it's unbalanced and basically not fair for allot of armies. if you didn't know this, fair, you are correct, but I am sure you do know this, and you are still buying those rules for 200.

I just go to the local store, meet a friend talk to him and play with our fresh created rules without spending money. Should work out perfect.

Who is talking about creating rules. I am talking about changing a rule or two to have more fun with the stuff we already bought. Sheesh. Now you are just making things up. Ironically changing something what I have originally said. See not so hard now is it and it took a few seconds to do so.

adamsouza wrote:

Davor wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
They will never have all the codexes come out at the same time.
That would be terrible for sales.

What like now?

Who ever I was answering commented that 8th edition and EVERY codex should drop at the same time.

Codex releases are spread out for multiple reasons, some are just physically practical, but mostly it's so they can hype each codex release and tempt us to try a new army EVERY time a codex is released.

Releasing new codexes all at once would be detrimental to sales of each. People would just pick their favorite faction, or the most competitive codex, and not buy the rest.

For people who only buy a single codex, they won't get that, or at least care for it, but a lot of us verterens buy damn near every codex, as they are released.

At best, we would get a Black Codex, like 2nd edition, or amry list summeries, like they did when 3rd edition released.

GW's best bet financially, if they release an 8th edition, is to release a ruleset that does not invalidate the current codexes with an errata booklet for any neccesary changes, and then release updated codexes.

Anyone with a force other than Space Marines, Craftworld Eldar, Space Wolves, and Necrons would probably appreciate an updated codex anyways.

All I can say is do you have proof? First off they did it for Age of Sigmar. AoS didn't fail because all the codices (or what ever they were called in Fantasy) changed all at once. It failed for other reasons that I will not go into. Warmahordes are doing this. They did it from v1 to v2 but I could be wrong. I know they are doing it for v3. Everything I bought is invalid now I believe. So I have to buy new books, cards and what not. Nothing wrong with that. That is a business practice that seems to work as well.

As someone said already, just because there is one way of doing business it's not the only way. Also as you said, has it really been working out for GW by staggering everything? How do you know sales might not increase if everything is released all at once? I think you are forgetting there are a lot of people who love to play because of a faction they LOVE not because it's "powerful" or "flavour of the mont" so Dark Eldar and Orks and Tyranids and what ever Space Marine factions would still sell. I haven't been buy-in much because GW is not selling what I want because they are selling staggered or one at a time. Is that really working?

At least releasing everything at once give everyone something to buy and do. By releasing staggardly as you suggest for "more sales" is what increases "flavour of the month" armies.

In the end, all we have is opinion. You are not wrong but I am not either. I am not right, but you are not as well. After all if we were, we would be making millions right now with plastic toy soldiers correct?

 aka_mythos wrote:
Pretty much. They don't necessarily have to be separate books but they need to have distinct rules.

No, the separate books is that what we need. GW is trying to fit in all this factions in one book and does a half-arse job by doing it, also trying to save money on pages. As a result we have a Codex which doesn't satisfy any of the Chaos players groups. By separating Chaos into three major factions GW can 1) make more money 2) do a better job with the Codex design for each group. So if we hear that Chas is getting one book for all, you can bet your money on it it's going to be a piece of garbage, again, no matter how they try to turn the fluff around.

Davor wrote:

hing is not all the rules are fun for everyone. So what is wrong with changing a few rules to have more fun?

I don't get why I should pay a companies to write rules and still have to make my own (if it would be only 1 rule and 1 codex entry no one would complain, for 40k to be fun to be fun for everyone a massive change is needed)
And maybe fine that you have your own small group that uses the 40k minis to play something else, but for all those who are playing most of the time against random people don't have the possibility to discuss and change the rules for each single game.

So I have 2 possibilities, play they rules as they are or do not play at all (random people do not very often agree on what rules are not funny and how to change them)

This is also one reason why most people here prefer to play 30k instead of 40k, they can have fun with the rules as they are and don't need to get into 2 hours discussion with their opponent before they can play

It looks as if we've run out of News and/or Rumors here, and are veering into Background Only discussion, along with a dash of Rule #1 breaking?

As such, the thread will now be locked.