jaxor1983 wrote:
You guys are probably right. I was thinking that they actually added the AM keyword to crusaders. They are probably unchanged, and just ministorum still.

However, according to this article, they DO have the AM keyword.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/10/lady-guardsmen-4-great-things-codex.html

They can only ride in a Ministorium Rhino or Immolator.

 Mr Morden wrote:

jaxor1983 wrote:
You guys are probably right. I was thinking that they actually added the AM keyword to crusaders. They are probably unchanged, and just ministorum still.

However, according to this article, they DO have the AM keyword.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/10/lady-guardsmen-4-great-things-codex.html

Be very weird if they did have the AM keyword? I guess Priests and co are included like Daemons are in the Chas Codex as something you are likely to take? Ok EDIT - read the article and their inclusion makes sense, guessing they may not have [Regiment] though. Like the Ogyrn bodyguard, female guardswomen and conversion notes.

Might be first 8th ed Codex I buy.

They can only ride in a Ministorium Rhino or Immolator.

Nope they are [Order} vehicles - Sisters and Inquisitors only.

 ross-128 wrote:
Weird random thing: I've seen in some reviews that Crusaders are in the AM codex for some reason. Do they have the AM keyword now? Can they take a Regiment and get all the things that come with that?

I'm guessing the answer is "no", which makes their inclusion in the codex really weird, since they're really just a Ministorum unit that you're allying in.

But if the answer is "yes"... Catachan Crusaders might make for a hilarious oddball build. S4 power swords with a 3++, acts of faith, Straken, a priest, and orders. Deus Vult indeed.

I guess even if they can't, they'd still make a potentially interesting alternative to Ogryns (who also don't get a regiment keyword anyway). If they at least have the AM keyword they'd be easier to transport, and can get some decent mileage out of just AoF and a priest.

 argonak wrote:

 ross-128 wrote:
Weird random thing: I've seen in some reviews that Crusaders are in the AM codex for some reason. Do they have the AM keyword now? Can they take a Regiment and get all the things that come with that?

I'm guessing the answer is "no", which makes their inclusion in the codex really weird, since they're really just a Ministorum unit that you're allying in.

But if the answer is "yes"... Catachan Crusaders might make for a hilarious oddball build. S4 power swords with a 3++, acts of faith, Straken, a priest, and orders. Deus Vult indeed.

I guess even if they can't, they'd still make a potentially interesting alternative to Ogryns (who also don't get a regiment keyword anyway). If they at least have the AM keyword they'd be easier to transport, and can get some decent mileage out of just AoF and a priest.

I was Interested interested in crusaders until I saw the models. By the emperor they're awful! Anyone have some good conversions?

Maybe it's mostly those heads though.