So i got the codex a little while back and was daunted by picking a chapter for my space marine army so much that i actually just put the book down and left it for like half a year.The thing is i really really really dont want to do ultramarines and in the codex there is so much stuff on them thats its kinda annoying i mean yes i know they're the poster boys of GW and yes i know they're what people usually want to start with because their simple but really the amount of jibes i would get out of the people i game wtih would be horrendous.So im wondering if any of yous have good ideas for a chapter i could pick?all suggestions except from Ultramarines are welcome

I've got a few suggestions.

Saints preserve us. What kind of hipster toolbags are you playing with if they'd make fun of your choice of army? And if they did, why not just say "Yeah, Ultramarines. Recognize?" Wanting to play something other than Ultras is obviously fine, but the constant hating on them is wearying. /rant The answer to your question, obviously, is the Rainbow Warriors.

Make. Your. Friggin'. Own.

DIY chapters FTW!

I've always liked Salamanders, but many people hate on Vulkan He'stan, so it's up to you.

And remember, you can use the special characters of other chapters in your army.

As a dedicated Salamanders player, and a student of the Mister T school of social interaction, I pity da fool who be hatin' on Vulkan He'stan!

But seriously, I recommend doing the following. First, decide if you want to play a chapter with specific rules. (Since you are playing out of Codex: Marines, your options are the Imperial Fists, the Crimson Fists, the Salamanders, the Raven Guard, or the White Scars.) If so, look at their Chapter Specific rules and decide which one you like the most. Also, decide which of their special characters you like the most. (Since you have to have them in any army that's going to use the Chapter Tactics from your chosen army.)

If you don't want to play a chapter with specific special rules (or don't care one way or the other) then consider this next. Different paint schemes require varying degrees of skill and work. In addition, you are going to spend a LOT of time looking at your army. Make sure that you pick an army you feel capable of painting/modeling, as well as one you think you can stand staring at for hours on end.

Also, hit the above link and check out the fluff for any chapters you are considering. You might want to make a decision based on the fluff. (I did.) Sometimes a chapter may have some background that will make them stand out, or disqualify them from your consideration. Something else you might want to think about is armies that you don't see that often, like Storm Lords, or the Aurora Chapter.

As an example, let's take me: I really liked the Imperial Fists, both in story background, color composition, special character, and uniqueness (since I had never seen one played). So I chose them. Fortunately for me I tried to paint them FIRST, before ordering my special character, because I discovered that yellow is the hardest color (in my opinion) to paint. It was more of a pain in the fanny than I can possibly describe. So, I went with my second choice, whose fluff I liked a LOT better. (Also, I personally enjoy their colors more.) I can stare at Salamander green for hours at a time. In point of fact, I spent about a half an hour staring at a model I painted earlier tonight. I love their colors.

So, I hope this helps. In the end, it all comes down to what you like the most.

Here is a question that has been bothering me, and somewhat related to this. say i have the models to make a tournament ready army, but i want to play SW. would i have to paint them space wolves colors and make them look space wolfy in order to use their rules for a tournament?

That depends on the TO. But you don't have to use space wolf colors to us the space wolf codex. They might wish that you use the SW models though.

haha looks like i get to convert 30+ models to space wolves since i have a feeling that most TO's will at least want me to use the right models...Doesn't help that i hate painting marine faces. But as Jimsolo recommended i LOVE spacewolf fluff(it helps that i am Norwegian and Scottish, so a bunch of space warriors who get drunk and fight all the time is right up my alley.)

Actually you don't necessarily have to repaint them. Just add some wolfy bits.

yeah, i should get the conversion kit since my mom will get mad at me if i shave the dog again

MasterOftheScott wrote:So i got the codex a little while back and was daunted by picking a chapter for my space marine army so much that i actually just put the book down and left it for like half a year.The thing is i really really really dont want to do ultramarines and in the codex there is so much stuff on them thats its kinda annoying i mean yes i know they're the poster boys of GW and yes i know they're what people usually want to start with because their simple but really the amount of jibes i would get out of the people i game wtih would be horrendous.So im wondering if any of yous have good ideas for a chapter i could pick?all suggestions except from Ultramarines are welcome

Could you please capitalize your I's? Also, punctuation isn't a replacement for a space. Proper spelling and grammar are appreciated here.

As to what kind of Space Marines you want, what's your favorite color? There's pretty much a different chapter for every color of the rainbow (and even Rainbow Warriors, but the jokes write themselves there) and there's 3 variant codices worth using. Read up on the Lexicanum link that was posted in the first reply for this thread, and make your decision from there.

Sorry for the punctuation errors and such. What I have thought about doing is fashioning them in a black and silver, and fluff them to be a splinter chapter of space wolves. That way I have an easier paint job in my opinion and hopefully the TO will not be a complete jerk about it.

Space Wolves don't have splinter Chapters per-say, but from time to time a Wolf Guard Battle Leader has been known to run off with the detachment he leads and do his own thing. Even more rarely a Wolf Lord will up and leave with his Great Company.

All you'd have to do for this is use SW models and paint them your own colors to show them separating themselves from the main group, either out of spite towards the Legion, or to separate themselves so they do not cause trouble for the Legion they once served.

What about a chapter like the Imperial Fists or the Raven Guard? You have a normal Codex Astartes chapter with similar organisation to the one of the UM and you are not UM.

2 birds with 1 stone there.

Mentor Legion.

The Special Ops of Astartes.

You should play crimson valor, they are a Red, with a Gold wash Space Marine chapter of counts as normale Space Marines and Blood Angles goodness.

White Consuls, Mortifactors, Lamenters, Scythes of the Emperor, Howling Gryphons...

There are many chapters which look good on the tabletop, have some good background and are rare enough o make them a unusual sight
in your local area.

Your own chapter, duh.

Why do you have to use someone else's creation?

Melissia wins the thread.

Honestly, although I like the idea of creating your own stuff, too many people do it. I mean, a homemade chapter is supposed to represent one of the lesser known (smaller) chapters. Too many people play armies that they made up themselves, thus cheapening the concept whenever there is a genuinely good homemade chapter that comes along. Again, personal opinion.

@Jimsolo: There are plenty of hideous representations of established chapters too though. A well thought out DIY chapter is a pretty awesome thing.

Granted, a well done homemade chapter is awesome. But they are, like good stories from aspiring authors via the internet, lost in a sea of crap. When I bought my marines, they were poop brown with green pot leaves painted on the shoulderpads. Some stoner chapter that the old owner thought would be funny. I think that you should have a force of established marines before you play a force of your own devising. I have a few good ideas for new chapters, but I am going to resist the urge and create an established army first.

They're lost in a sea of crap, just like the standard chapters are. GW's fluff for its own chapters is rarely of higher quality than fan-made fluff.

Indeed, I've read more fluff that I actually liked from fan-made chapters than I have for GW's own.

Melissia wrote:They're lost in a sea of crap, just like the standard chapters are. GW's fluff for its own chapters is rarely of higher quality than fan-made fluff.

Indeed, I've read more fluff that I actually liked from fan-made chapters than I have for GW's own.

This. Look around and see what you like the look of and adapt it to your liking. If it were me I'd be doing an Iron hands successor chapter. Just not with a black based color scheme.

You should make a new chapter surrounding a primarch long thought to be lost to us all.

Chuck Norris

I vote Raven Guard. Easy to paint, cool fluff and you don't see too many of them. Whatever you do please don't make up a chapter there are so many to choose from that almost no DIY chapter has been original or even remotely relevant to the fluff of the game

Glimpse The Void wrote:You should make a new chapter surrounding a primarch long thought to be lost to us all.

Chuck Norris

booo.

Monster Rain wrote:Saints preserve us. What kind of hipster toolbags are you playing with if they'd make fun of your choice of army? And if they did, why not just say "Yeah, Ultramarines. Recognize?" Wanting to play something other than Ultras is obviously fine, but the constant hating on them is wearying. /rant

Yeah too right!


next time someone gives to your Ultramarines, just go "yeeaaahhh, that book you read? all the time? tells you all about your tactics and your force organization? so uhh... who wrote that again?"


Poster boys they may be, they are also filled with greco/roman symoblism, and if you are a history buff that might be the reason you play them- same as someone who's into the crusades and the middle ages might be more inclined to play Black Templars!

Agreed with the above- what kind of hipster douchebags are you playing with?

Yeeessshhh,sir.

You should make a new chapter surrounding a primarch long thought to be lost to us all.

Chuck Norris

Glimpse The Void wrote:You should make a new chapter surrounding a primarch long thought to be lost to us all.

Chuck Norris

boooooooo

Chuck Norris actually founded the Grey Knights. Embedded in every Nemesis force weapon is a molecule of his beard.

No, that's the ultramarines. They're just as fail and arrogant as he is.

Melissia, do you enjoy anything about this game, this hobby, at all? I have cannot recall off the top of my head ever seeing you make a positive statement in regards to the game, the hobby, or Games Workshop. Do you enjoy it whatsoever?

Monster Rain wrote:Saints preserve us. What kind of hipster toolbags are you playing with if they'd make fun of your choice of army? And if they did, why not just say "Yeah, Ultramarines. Recognize?" Wanting to play something other than Ultras is obviously fine, but the constant hating on them is wearying. /rant The answer to your question, obviously, is the Rainbow Warriors.

Me and my friends make fun of Ultramarines all the time. If one of us played Ultramarines we wouldn't stop. So we are apparently now Hipster Toolbags? Good to know "monster rain", I'll inform the crew.

ph34r wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:Saints preserve us. What kind of hipster toolbags are you playing with if they'd make fun of your choice of army? And if they did, why not just say "Yeah, Ultramarines. Recognize?" Wanting to play something other than Ultras is obviously fine, but the constant hating on them is wearying. /rant The answer to your question, obviously, is the Rainbow Warriors.

Me and my friends make fun of Ultramarines all the time. If one of us played Ultramarines we wouldn't stop. So we are apparently now Hipster Toolbags? Good to know "monster rain", I'll inform the crew.

Then you're just another band-wagon jumper,obviously. I'm sure deep-down you don't hate the ultramarines as much as you say you do. In fact,I'm fairly sure most people don't hate the ultramarines,they just want to look kewl around their anti-ultramarine friends.

Jimsolo wrote:Melissia, do you enjoy anything about this game, this hobby, at all? I have cannot recall off the top of my head ever seeing you make a positive statement in regards to the game, the hobby, or Games Workshop. Do you enjoy it whatsoever?

Wait, because I stated I despise Chuck Norris and Chuck Norris jokes, I must therefor hate the 40k hobby?

Melissia wrote:

Jimsolo wrote:Melissia, do you enjoy anything about this game, this hobby, at all? I have cannot recall off the top of my head ever seeing you make a positive statement in regards to the game, the hobby, or Games Workshop. Do you enjoy it whatsoever?

Wait, because I stated I despise Chuck Norris and Chuck Norris jokes, I must therefor hate the 40k hobby?

Guess I hate 40k too then....

Play Iron Hands. Fight the Power.

I got away with a divergent color scheme, because Clan-Company Avernii has a grand total of one piece of fluff on it. They somehow manged to get their hands on forgebreaker.

Playing a space marine chapter with black as their main color has some problems. First of all, I would say that black is not as easy to paint as people think it is. It is easy to paint a model black but to do it well takes a bit of skill. Secondly, the problem with space marines wearing black is that they are a dime a dozen. There are a ton of chapters that have black armor: Black Consuls, Iron Hands, Raven Guard, Black Templars, Scythes of the Emperor, Dragon Warriors etc. etc. So if you do decide to go with a black and something color scheme be prepared for everyone to think that you are playing Black Templars and/ or Raven Guard (as these are the two most commonly seen space marines in black). I would recommend you go for something a little more distinctive. Gray is a nice, easy color to work with for most people. Maybe the Relictors would be a good choice, assuming you like their fluff that is.

I am assuming here that you are new to the hobby. If you are not new, I apologize for telling you stuff that you probably already know.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Melissia wrote:

Jimsolo wrote:Melissia, do you enjoy anything about this game, this hobby, at all? I have cannot recall off the top of my head ever seeing you make a positive statement in regards to the game, the hobby, or Games Workshop. Do you enjoy it whatsoever?

Wait, because I stated I despise Chuck Norris and Chuck Norris jokes, I must therefor hate the 40k hobby?

Guess I hate 40k too then....

Guess I love 40k then

Chuck Norries jokes FTW!

I say do your own chapter. A lot of the current chapters suffer from flawed/biased writing. Doing your own chapter and colour scheme also allows you to flex your artistic muscle.

Also: Chuck Norris jokes FTW

@Phear: since you asked... Yes. Yes it would seem that you are.


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andain841 wrote:Playing a space marine chapter with black as their main color has some problems. First of all, I would say that black is not as easy to paint as people think it is. It is easy to paint a model black but to do it well takes a bit of skill. Secondly, the problem with space marines wearing black is that they are a dime a dozen. There are a ton of chapters that have black armor: Black Consuls, Iron Hands, Raven Guard, Black Templars, Scythes of the Emperor, Dragon Warriors etc. etc. So if you do decide to go with a black and something color scheme be prepared for everyone to think that you are playing Black Templars and/ or Raven Guard (as these are the two most commonly seen space marines in black). I would recommend you go for something a little more distinctive. Gray is a nice, easy color to work with for most people. Maybe the Relictors would be a good choice, assuming you like their fluff that is.

I am assuming here that you are new to the hobby. If you are not new, I apologize for telling you stuff that you probably already know.

good points (i'm assuming this was adressed to me) i wasn't really thinking much beyond... "hmmm which "main" chapter do i never see..." Also no worries on telling me what i knew, i'm sure it helped someone.
As far as i'm concrened my greater point still stands, don't make your own chapter...

No it doesn't. You claim don't make your own chapter because it wouldn't be original... then tell them to use someone else's chapter, because you know stealing someone else's work is TOTALLY ORIGINAL!

BRILLIANT!

@Joetaco: Actually, I was trying to help out the OP. My fault for not being more specific. I am not sure where I stand on creating a chapter from scratch. I would say that I have seen some really, really nice examples of home brew chapters. However, I have seen more, in my opinion, bad examples than good ones. Of course, the same thing could be said for just about any space marine army no? I think that a good looking army is frequently more about the execution of the painting rather than the colors employed. I would agree that a beginner might have an easier time painting an established chapter if only because it gives them examples to work with.

You just need to pick something that works for you. If you like the colors, then Forget everything else. This is a game, and so you should do what you think is fun. As you paint your first few models, you'll work through the problems and something nice will evolve. As for me, I am starting wolves because they are like space marines, but cooler.

Brother SRM wrote:

MasterOftheScott wrote:So i got the codex a little while back and was daunted by picking a chapter for my space marine army so much that i actually just put the book down and left it for like half a year.The thing is i really really really dont want to do ultramarines and in the codex there is so much stuff on them thats its kinda annoying i mean yes i know they're the poster boys of GW and yes i know they're what people usually want to start with because their simple but really the amount of jibes i would get out of the people i game wtih would be horrendous.So im wondering if any of yous have good ideas for a chapter i could pick?all suggestions except from Ultramarines are welcome

Could you please capitalize your I's? Also, punctuation isn't a replacement for a space. Proper spelling and grammar are appreciated here.

As to what kind of Space Marines you want, what's your favorite color? There's pretty much a different chapter for every color of the rainbow (and even Rainbow Warriors, but the jokes write themselves there) and there's 3 variant codices worth using. Read up on the Lexicanum link that was posted in the first reply for this thread, and make your decision from there.

But there's FOUR varient codex's..... oh, wait, your right, three worth USING........

Make your own chapter. Usually, just pick your favorite chapter and go. I have Brown space marines, and people call them the "Turd marines". Just go wtih it, learn how to use what you have, and crush the competition. Just roll with it and have fun.

Actually there's seven space marine variant codices. Not four.

Blood Angels, Black Templars, Chaos Space Marines, Dark Angels, Grey Knights (from Daemonhunters) Space Marines, Space Wolves.

Samus_aran115 wrote:Then you're just another band-wagon jumper,obviously. I'm sure deep-down you don't hate the ultramarines as much as you say you do. In fact,I'm fairly sure most people don't hate the ultramarines,they just want to look kewl around their anti-ultramarine friends.

I'm amazed how much I don't know about myself. Thanks for opening my mind to the person I really am, Dakka!



Of course you see, it is impossible for someone to genuinely dislike the Ultramarines! They're that Ultra!

Nice strawman, Phear. Clearly that's exactly what everyone here is saying.

Glimpse The Void wrote:You just need to pick something that works for you. If you like the colors, then Forget everything else. This is a game, and so you should do what you think is fun. As you paint your first few models, you'll work through the problems and something nice will evolve. As for me, I am starting wolves because they are like space marines, but cooler.

This.

Personally, I thought long and hard before putting together my Space Marine chapter - I considered Black Templars, because I love the crusader pastiche and like to think of myself as something of a history buff - but their color scheme bores me. I considered Ultramarines, because I honestly love their color scheme and they've got some of the most fleshed-out fluff (obviously an effect of being GW poster boys) - but I wanted to do something that people wouldn't often see, and Ultramarines are fairly common. I considered Relictors, because the idea of playing a chapter on the brink of going Renegade is sort of thrilling, and like the Relictors I have a fascination with tainted artifacts in the 40k setting - but their color scheme bores me even more than BT. I considered White Scars because I like their hit-and-run tactics and color scheme - but after reading the rules I decided I hate bikes.

In the end, I came up with my own chapter whose fluff is inspired by Black Templars, and whose color scheme and some of their tactics are inspired by White Scars. I created the Storm Crusaders and I haven't regretted it since. I love the look, I love the fluff I've made for them, and I love their tactics.

The bottom line is, none of the GW chapters had exactly what I was looking for, so I combined my favorite elements of several chapters, added a little bit of original fluff, and created something that really works for me. That's what you gotta do. Find whatever draws you to it, be it your own DIY chapter or an existing GW chapter, and run with it, the opinions of other people be damned. I can't tell you how often I get "Oh, are those White Scars" because their primary color is white, and it bugs me, but I shrug it off and explain the Storm Crusaders and their fluff, and most people enjoy them.

On the other hand, if you're got a thinner skin and want to fit in with the hipsters, play Blood Angels. Everyone plays Blood Angels (and makes fun of Ultramarines), you know.

Monster Rain wrote:Nice strawman, Phear. Clearly that's exactly what everyone here is saying.

1. The name is ph34r, spell it correctly if you wish to attempt snide remarks at me.
2. It's what he said, that I was merely a bandwagon jumper, that he knew what I thought more than I did, that for some reason I am lying on the internet for no good reason.
I am allowed to dislike UM. Nobody on the internet can argue otherwise, because nobody can read my mind. Don't like it? I don't care. Can't understand sarcasm? I don't care.

E: In summary, I don't like Ultramarines. Really.

Blood Ravens FTW. Just sayin'.

I gained so much respect for the BR when... well, my avatar.

@FPh4rt: My apologies for mispelling your leetspeak babytalk name. No one said you weren't allowed to not like UM. The point is that the OTT hatred of them is goofy as hell.

My original Space Marines were a DIY chapter. For me, in the end, I regretted going that route.

It could have to do with the fact that I ended up selling all my Space Marine stuff and going Chaos and Nids. But that said, if you think that is EVER likely, you will probably get a better return on your investment for selling an army painted as any specific Chapter.

Just a thought...

Poster boys they may be, they are also filled with greco/roman symoblism, and if you are a history buff that might be the reason you play them- same as someone who's into the crusades and the middle ages might be more inclined to play Black Templars!

Agreed with the above- what kind of hipster douchebags are you playing with?

One of my friends HATES Ultramarines for some reason, however he also hates Tau...which I join him on. Anyway I have been reading some of the fluff and looking at their codex, and if some of their rules weren't in need of fixing I would definitely go with a black Templar army.

If money is not an issue, I would suggest starting with a pre-existing chapter to hone you painting skills, then build your own once you know what your doing. It brings a tear to my eye when I see some epic DIY chapter fluff , and then I cant look at the models and take them serously anymore. A DIY chapter should look like something to be proud of IMO.

I actually have most the models i need to field a decent sized army. I have more tactical marines than you can shake your fist at. a land raider, assault termi squad, regular termi squad, assualt marines. really all i need is some devastator squads and a few rhinos. I think what the issue boils down to is that I want to make my own chapter, but there are divergent marine chapter rules that I want to play by and I'm not sure how well that would blow over in a tournament.

I went a different route than most. I started by choosing the tactics I wanted to base my force around, then chose the chapter from there. I ended with a White Scars- Raven guard combination chapter.

Be-Damned with the sniping jests of thy peers!

Paint your army bright blue- And Conform!!

Seriously folks- It actually sounds like from the OP that it is the sledging you can't abide, but the Army you like-Wolud I be correct?

If so- Go Ultra. They will be laughing from the other side of thier faces as your Poster-Boys tear them a new one. And heaps od guides for good painting tips.

Go Ultra!

yea... if you wanna go ultramarines, just do it. They won't be laughing when you execute a strictly by - the - book face raping of their army.

Ultramarines rulzz i got mines painted whit the painting scheme of the 1st veteran company (white trims and helemets) and i LOOOOve them =)

anway if you didn't shoose yet here's a list of some fluff chapters

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat1350002&categoryId=400028§ion=&aId=9600100

but there are no ultramariens in the gallery.. =s

Just play test the different codices with your friends using the marines you have, then choose the one you like the most.

I'm sure no one will be anal enough to forbid you from doing this.

If all else fails, ask CREEEEEEEEEEED for the best tactical advice.

Monster Rain wrote:@FPh4rt: My apologies for mispelling your leetspeak babytalk name. No one said you weren't allowed to not like UM. The point is that the OTT hatred of them is goofy as hell.

Did you actually think while you typed out that post? You first call me a "hipster toolbag" for making fun of the chapter who consistently strangles greater daemons and avatars, then decide to insult my opinion, and then my name when you decide ad hominem attacks are the best shot you've got at "winning" an argument against someone's opinion after you started throwing insults out for no good reason. You argue worse than my 12 year old cousin. Your posts are a disgrace to the internet. I can't take you seriously any more, you're a complete joke.

Overall, you can use a basic pink space marine chapter and use a SW codex. Its all about the Codex my friends. You can use BA minis and use a SW Codex. It doesnt matter. As long as your mini's show what you're using then I dont see an issue (BA land raider could be a SW land raider). This is just an example though.

Nothing wrong with creating your own chapter. Just because GW havnt brought out yet ANOTHER codex for ANOTHER space marine chapter doesnt mean the one you made is crap. Saying it is is just ridiculous. Its like telling people "creating your own colours is stupid. Paint how GW tell you to paint!!". If I want to create a fluro green SM army and use the SW Codex I will.


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The Dreadnote wrote:I've got a few suggestions.

Awesome link !!! Thanks!!

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Space_Marine_Chapters

try minotaurs theyre like ½ red and ½ yellow

I thought that was the Howling Griffons.

Aurora chapter is fun. mechanized armies are my favorite, and I like green, so its win-win!!!

the main problem is people keep looking at my army and saying... oooh, salamanders!

i've carefully painted insignia on each of my marines, and its annoying.

The good thing about using the "traditional" chapters is you get decals in the box for them.

micahaphone wrote:Make. Your. Friggin'. Own.

DIY chapters FTW!

Amen to that. Nights Justice Chapter representin!

There is nothing at all wrong with the Ultramarines, and anyone who'd mock you for fully painting an army in any scheme is just a tool and unworthy of your notice. But if you don't want to go with the Ultramarines, then get creative and make your own. I've got a relatively full background to my own chapter, including names for all the main characters, and the like.

Have some fun with it. In the end, thats what this is all about.

Go Dark Angels! They have sweet looking range and maybe not so great of a codex but they still are really fun and look really cool and one of you said something about the decals and i still find them crazy hard to use could you help me if you have any tips?

Crimson fists FTW

A chapter not often played, and without much supporting fluff (allowing you to fill in some gaps yourself) would be the Fire Lords (you can find them in the codex, page 28). I gotta say I love the color scheme, and I think you could justify using Vulcan under another name as your Chapter Master.

space sharks!!

Go Space Sharks GO!

Collect the Word Bearers. They are the bravest, most loyal and purist of all Space Marines and their faith in the Gods is beyond anyone in the 40k galaxy. They are probably the most heroic too, as they were the rebels that tried to save humanity from the grip of the evil Emperor and his Death Star.

Scheme:

The most loyal space marine chapter is Death Guard, obviously. They're the purest of all the chapters, so clean and pious in their duty.

Damned lies, all of you. The purest chapter is obviously the Alpha Legion.
From what we have pieced together of course.
We think.

Blood Wolf Templar Knights.

Blood Ravens. I hate to say it twice, but it's just so damn true!

SPACE WOLVES. God i hate the ultra-marines, (i accidentally call them aquamarines on regular occasions XD) SW are a good alternitave, they're SMs with counter-attack and good heroes

Ahshran wrote:God i hate the ultra-marines

Okay, I see this over and over again, and I see people complaining that people make fun of their Ultramarines, so I have to ask.

WHY? WHY THE HELL?

Why does everyone hate Ultramarines? Is this people trying to be trendy and hating the "poster boys" of GW just because that's what they are? Is there an actual reason for this hatred? I don't get it.

Ultramarines have some of the most well-written and developed fluff in 40k. They've got a colorscheme that looks cool as hell. They're awesome on the tabletop, since they have a ton of kickass named characters and they're vanilla marines, which gives them all the best toys.

Why hate them?

Seriously. I want to know.

I hate space wolves and play ultramarines.

But then when you play them you can tell people to bow to their spiritual liege etc. Comic gold.

Ultramarines are horrible. Everyone that plays them should be killed.

I would agree with most here custom Chapter normally seem pretty interesting.

Glimpse The Void wrote:You should make a new chapter surrounding a primarch long thought to be lost to us all.

Chuck Norris

Chuck Norris is the Primarch of the 2nd AND the 11th legions

Chuck Norris is NOT funny anymore.

terribletrygon wrote:Chuck Norris was NEVER funny.

Fixed. But then I'm biased, as I watched the TV show AND the cartoon.

Chuck Norris sucked back then and he sucks now...



But seriously, play whatever colors you like, and use the codex that provides the playstyle you like. Emperor knows they're all just Marines in the end

*waits for someone to take that last sentence too seriously*

Chuck Norris is and always will be hilarious.

But that's mostly because we like to annoy you.

No, not you.

You.

Yes, you.

Argh.

STOP the personal attacks and insults.

RIGHT NOW.

Hmmm i think you should look at Dark Angels very cool army. And can be played many different ways.

All of the STCs are discarded prototypes of the Chuck Norris Total Gym.

True story.

IHEARTLARGEBLASTTEMPLATES wrote:Hmmm i think you should look at Dark Angels very cool army. And can be played many different ways.

Except that they suck.

Wait until DA has a new codex before playing them.

How do they suck? For sure at disadvantage but dont suck i can field a fine list with their codex. Its either you dont try hard enough with them, or you are misinformed

terribletrygon wrote:Ultramarines are horrible. Everyone that plays them should be killed.

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Monster Rain wrote:All of the STCs are discarded prototypes of the Chuck Norris Total Gym.

True story.

Gawd I want to sig this

Also, dark angels are fine, but If you just use the vanilla codex, they can work better than usual. What edition are they on again?

Also, dark angels are fine, but If you just use the vanilla codex, they can work better than usual. What edition are they on again?


They're on 4th edition.

And I'd say they were a valid choice. Ravenwing is good for fast hitting killiness. Deathwing is just fun, though greenwing is a bit bleh compared to Codex marines.

I've decided to go with the Iron Hands because of the ties they have with the Adeptus Mechanicus sort of thinking mechanised lots of tanks heavy hitting force with that and the thought of Marines who enhance themselves even more seems pretty inviting. Thanks for all your help on the matter and jibes at Chuck Norris are welcome because that guy honestly sucks.

MasterOftheScott wrote: I've decided to go with the Iron Hands because of the ties they have with the Adeptus Mechanicus sort of thinking mechanised lots of tanks heavy hitting force with that and the thought of Marines who enhance themselves even more seems pretty inviting. Thanks for all your help on the matter and jibes at Chuck Norris are welcome because that guy honestly sucks.

Iron Hands are pretty kickass.

I joke with one of my buddies, who plays Crons, that when he gets bored of his Crons he oughta replace their gauss guns with bolters and run them as really enthusiastic Iron Hands.