Is it just me or am I the only person who is really getting off with seeing moody teens/crap actors endlessly portray vampires? Everytime I switch on the TV, pick up a magazine, look at the advert on the side of a bus, all I see is sun dodgers and moody teenagers. Being a teenager used to mean something in this country. You would get tanked up on cheap cider and get yourself kicked out off a pool hall or youth club, or even a local library. Nowadays it's all eternal life and romance. There is only one cure- bring back this man to put the fear of God in them:
Thank you,Flashman, for bringing a modicum of class to this thread. Soladrin, Peter Cushing is one of the greatest chracter actors this island has produced in recent years. The ignorance on this site forever gets me down
OT - Yes, Vampires are at saturation point in films and tv, but to be honest, werewolves and zombies aren't far behind. Would dearly love to see something new and inventive. Hoping Inception ticks that box.
FITZZ, well said. Hammer may have churned out a load of guff most films, but in my mind, plague of the zombies, and the devil rides out, are as good as anything on celluloid. Does anybody remember 'Pyschomania' a horror film about a zombie motorbike gang taking over a quaint English village. I'm sure that was a Hammer film.
As for Star Wars - a low point in Cushing's (or anyone else's) film career.
OT- what I'm getting at is the original message of the gothic romance: forbidden love, what it means to human etc
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:FITZZ, well said. Hammer may have churned out a load of guff most films, but in my mind, plague of the zombies, and the devil rides out, are as good as anything on celluloid. Does anybody remember 'Pyschomania' a horror film about a zombie motorbike gang taking over a quaint English village. I'm sure that was a Hammer film.
As for Star Wars - a low point in Cushing's (or anyone else's) film career.
OT- what I'm getting at is the original message of the gothic romance: forbidden love, what it means to human etc
I'm not sure if Pyschomania was a Hammer film,but I do indeed recall it very well,it's one of the first films I remember watching as a child as a matter of fact.
I thought that the gangs "skull helmets" were one of the coolest things I'd ever seen,of course I was 6 at the time.
Your probably right, but the idea of a zombie motorbike gang taking over an English village, has got to be one of the greatest, wasted film ideas known to man!!
Mark Hamill - a promising leading man who's career took a beating from the turkey that was Star Wars. Still, I suppose he got the Wing Commander series!
I'm signing off to watch Star Trek V on British tv. I've seen it about a thousand times, but damn it, Jim! It's spock and Mccoy
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:As for Star Wars - a low point in Cushing's (or anyone else's) film career.
What? Even Mark Hamill's?
No,his low point would be "Corvette summer"...one of the goofiest movies ever.
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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Your probably right, but the idea of a zombie motorbike gang taking over an English village, has got to be one of the greatest, wasted film ideas known to man!!
Agreed, to this day I will still sit and watch that film.
Never been a big horror genre fan of any sort, but not agin it either. However was thinking along similar lines to the OP last week in the book stores.
Noticed there is a lotta Twighlightesque stuff on the sellers' shelves.
What I find curious is that erstwhile Vamps were sexy but in a very dangerous way. The seduction was scary. There seems to be a lot of jolly nice sexy vamps around who won't feed on the heroine or try to turn her into Ms Vamp.
As I understand it Vampirism, certainly since Bram Stoker, have been symbolic of sex and synonymous with STD's. Syphillis in the 19th century and AIDS in the 1980's/90's.
If you don't believe that it's all about sex, look at the name of the guy who wrote Dracula.
Any hoo, there is a chaste vamp love/romance thing going on at present, which is odds with the sexual imagery that pervades the genre.
For whatever reason it is popular with teen girls of all ages, and possibly genders. Except for Dakka members, where the T word is Verboten!
The other change is the creature of the night is not only abroad in broad daylight, but sparkles like a glittery My Little Pony for the girls to love. He enhances the light and is super beautiful to behold.
Possibly Lewis Carroll summed it up best:
Twinkle twinkle little bat
How I wonder what your at.
Up above the world so high,
Like a tea tray in the sky.
Hey, has anyone ever thought that Twighlight Vamps are like Blood An......
historicaly, Vampires have always been synonimous with what ever scared society at the time. In the earliest vampire stories, they were diseased corpses, during the black plague or something similar. In what is now seen as the god ol', classic vampire, they were portrayed as vicious, murderous monsters living amongst us. This pattern was popularized aound the time that Jack the Ripper was wandering about. In the 20th century, they were related to STD's. They were sexy, but would kill you.
In the 21st century, they are angsty teens making bad decisions.
Edit: I just had an idea for a movie. A vampire set's out to put the fear back into the word. Cue people getting turned because they thought it would be fun, and the master Vamp saying something like: "Young people. Think they sparkle in the sun, they do."
It's either a really good, or a really bad idea. either way, it could make me a lot of money.
Crazy_Carnifex wrote:In the earliest vampire stories, they were diseased corpses, during the black plague or something similar.
Yep, it was the Black Plague. In Venice, they actually put rocks in the mouths of those who died, because when you die by Plague, blood dribbles from your mouth. Easy to see how they thought up the thing behind Vamps ins't it?
Must admit not heard of the plague connection before, though I admit Vampire lore is not my thing.
But it makes for a powerful and terrifying thought of becoming one of the living dead in the context of religious belief. There would be a fear in all likelihood of not getting proper rites to get sent off to the after life if you see what I mean.
The current versions have no such terrors. For goodness sakes you still get to hang with your pals and go to the mall!
Apparently stakes and garlic have been utterly useless all along. The only thing Vampires truly fear in this day and age is a horde of rabid teenage girls.
blessed rounds kill twlight vampires.... god i hate those type. Vampires do not burn, do not tan, do not sparkle... they EXPLODE in the sun light unless they're a pure blood and even then it still bothers them being out in the day
I'm fed up with people complaining about vampires. They are a creaton of modern monster mythos and are at best only tangentially related to the cross cultural amalgamation of mythos that they come from. The Vampires in Twilight are every bit as legitimate as the ones in underworld and neither one is accurate to the myths they pretend to portray.
I personally am just getting tired with the whole vampire thing. Once again, it's all about the bandwagon. Stephenie Meyer writes her own fantasies down in a book, tween girls lap it up like its the BEST THING EVAA!!!11!one!
People see she's making money. People decide: 'Hey, I want money!' and start crapping out all kinds of similar stories.....It happens all the time.
There used to be a "specialist" SF bookshop in Sydney.
It used to be a regular haunt of mine.
Once upon a time, "supernatural horror" had its own little nook down the end, in the shadows, next to the gaming related stuff. "Supernatural" romance did not exist. Mainstream SF genre stuff (Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5 etc) had the prime spot, two aisles as you walked in.
Now, supernatural romance has taken over those two aisles.
The trek and star wars stuff has been shifted to the back wall, with the regular SF and fantasy stuff sandwiched between.
When I were a lad, you would scarcely see a girl in the SF bookshop. Now, they can't keep them out. Unfortunately, they are the vapid, brainless teen set who think some guy called "edward" will take them away from all of their boring humdrum existence.
chromedog wrote:There used to be a "specialist" SF bookshop in Sydney.
It used to be a regular haunt of mine.
Once upon a time, "supernatural horror" had its own little nook down the end, in the shadows, next to the gaming related stuff. "Supernatural" romance did not exist. Mainstream SF genre stuff (Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5 etc) had the prime spot, two aisles as you walked in.
Now, supernatural romance has taken over those two aisles.
The trek and star wars stuff has been shifted to the back wall, with the regular SF and fantasy stuff sandwiched between.
When I were a lad, you would scarcely see a girl in the SF bookshop. Now, they can't keep them out. Unfortunately, they are the vapid, brainless teen set who think some guy called "edward" will take them away from all of their boring humdrum existence.
She Who Must Be Obeyed's theory is that the Twilight nonsense is a modern version of the white knight syndrome. The knight saves the chaste maiden and continues to worship her from afar, without all that needless ing.
of course she also said our marriage was a modern retelling of the droolling caveman dragging off the maiden. hey wait...HEY!!!!
Well I can't say about the latter Frazzled, but my money is on it being so
But I reckon that is a good point about the white knight syndrome.
Which is why I found it paradoxical.
As mentioned above there is an erotic element to the vampire's kiss which defies the chaste relationship.
Maybe it is wish fulfulment of taming the predatory male.
good call imho
ShumaGorath wrote:I'm fed up with people complaining about vampires. They are a creaton of modern monster mythos and are at best only tangentially related to the cross cultural amalgamation of mythos that they come from. The Vampires in Twilight are every bit as legitimate as the ones in underworld and neither one is accurate to the myths they pretend to portray.
Thank you for voicing my sentiments on this matter.
There of course is the other bandwagon, the teenage boys who think they are all cool by hating on Twilight. They're really no better. And of course they will shell out a gakload of money for the new "Twilight Sucks" movie, which looks like it was by the same people who did "Epic Movie" and all that crap.
Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:I'm still waiting for the Twilight book in which Blade turns up...
I suggest looking for: How It Should Have Ended, Twilight, on youtube.
I find the whole thing amusing, but I second bringing back The Masquerade quality vampires...but after a rest.
Its just the latest trend, people got all worked up over Harry Potter but since the last book came out and the films are nearly done people needed something to fill the gap. Vampires were a safe bet, everyone has heard of them and knows a little about them, couple this with the forbidden love angle and you can rope in the girlies as well. There are worse things out there and the simple answer is that if you find it annoying then just ignore it. They are no more than the Mills and Boon novels of the day.
Mrs squilverine loves the damned things and has countless trashy paper backs about moody emo vampires littering the house. This is a woman who has a law degree and has just been promoted to head of English at a new secondary school, she may well be the bad influence who has pushed hordes of angsty, spotty and slightly odd teen girls into buying this tripe.
As I type this she is actualy at the cinema with her mother (also a head of department at a different school) wathcing the latest twighshite film. She asked if I wanted to go and see it to which I responded "no thanks I'd rather cut my cock off with a rusty bread knife".
Twilight just hurts my eyes, hell even Kindred the Embraceds first four episodes are better than that rubbish.
What makes it worse, is that my mother who's a proper hardcore horror novel fan has fallen foul of it, and my middle brother who basically knows no better (never really been into this kinda stuff) loves it as well.
They are mortified that I think its trash, and no matter what they suggest I don't see it as awesome. My brother even has dared say to me the 'sparkle in sunlight' is the best idea for Vampire movies/stories he's ever heard.
*cries*
My own brother. I cannot speak for the Outrage, Outrage I tell you.
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote: My brother even has dared say to me the 'sparkle in sunlight' is the best idea for Vampire movies/stories he's ever heard.
*cries*
My own brother. I cannot speak for the Outrage, Outrage I tell you.
Sometimes it is just kinder to slip a pillow over their faces whilst they are sleeping and put an end to the pain
I'll admit to being a Buffy/Angel fan. I have yet to read/see any Twilight, but the hatred is easy to buy into. One day, I'll force myself to read the damn thing and see for myself whether it's justified.
Twilight stole it's basic idea from Buffy/Angel but forgot to steal what made the series work. Humour. Buffy never took itself seriously for very long which made all the romance stuff palatable.
Flashman wrote:Twilight stole it's basic idea from Buffy/Angel but forgot to steal what made the series work. Humour. Buffy never took itself seriously for very long which made all the romance stuff palatable.
Bingo
I think that is a fair assessment.
Personally I ain't that bothered by the Twilight phenomena.
I saw the first film on DVD with my daughter. Her friends had seen it and loved it as expected but given the hype my daughter felt disappointed.
We thought it was okay but nothing more.
That is the missing ingredient for sure Flashman. Twilight (movie not read the book) does take itself too seriously
I watched Lesbian Vampire Killers the other day on satellite, just to see if it ws as dire as hyped.
Twilight is a paragon of cinematic art in comparison, in fact I think pretty much anything is.
Trust me on this one, dont watch this rubbish. I could only stomach it as background while doing something else. Bersides James Corden and Matyhhew Horne are so irritaingly chavtastic I wouldnt mind if they met a sticky end.
Orlanth wrote:I watched Lesbian Vampire Killers the other day on satellite, just to see if it ws as dire as hyped.
Twilight is a paragon of cinematic art in comparison, in fact I think pretty much anything is.
Trust me on this one, dont watch this rubbish. I could only stomach it as background while doing something else. Bersides James Corden and Matyhhew Horne are so irritaingly chavtastic I wouldnt mind if they met a sticky end.
You watched a movie called "Lesbian Vampire Killers" and you expected it to not be bad?
You should check your head for bumps or bleeding...
'As Edward holds [broad] in his pale and most likely clammy arms, he notices something out of the corner of his eye. A vague shape rushing towards him, something with dark murderous eyes. Before he can turn to confront the rushing menace, he realizes that another is coming from a different direction. As he stands to face the oncoming horrors, he realizes all too late that the Malkavians have grenades in their mouths. Game over....."
(I forgot the chicks name, she is labeled now as [broad])
I'm not sure why people are espousing white wolf as a superior mythos here. It's not really any better. White wolfs little clan setting isn't any more representative of vampire myths then twilight. It's more violent to be sure, but as soon as the underworld films actually manage to become good that will matter. Is this whole thread just repressed teenagers being annoyed that their favorite rpg book isn't the paramount fiction form for a fake movie monster any more?
Having actually read the books themselves, I'd say that while the books are pieces of crap the hate heaped on them is not completely justified. Yes, the main characters are complete Mary Sue's who exist only for the purpose of wish fulfillment on behalf of the author and certain readers. If you notice, Bella practically IS Stephenie Meyer in both looks and is no doubt her dream personality.
However, I will note that Stephenie Meyer is NOT a complete failure. Yes, she has created horrible main characters, and turned a whole generation of girls into vampire desiring insane people, I will acknowledge that she does have some strengths. If you notice, outside of Bella, and Edward most of the characters have fairly well developed back stories. Hell, I'd actually be interested in reading a book about Jasper's involvement in the vampire wars or Rosalie's roaring rampage of revenge. However, as Twilight is nothing more than Meyer's wish fullfillment fantasy, that's not going to happen. I personally believe that she is good at coming up with characters, she's just not good at maintaining their charactherization or developing a plot that is not completely dependent on half the characters clinging to the idiot ball.
Possibly the problem is that the publishers see dollars pouring in and are asking for more of the same. Maybe Meyer prefers it that way too.
Meyer can't turn young girls in to vampire loving teens imho. There is something that is striking a chord. Not going to claim she has tapped into the zeitgeist, but she has found a formula that works for a lot of young girls.
Sometimes it is just kinder to slip a pillow over their faces whilst they are sleeping and put an end to the pain
ShumaGorath wrote:I'm not sure why people are espousing white wolf as a superior mythos here. It's not really any better. White wolfs little clan setting isn't any more representative of vampire myths then twilight. It's more violent to be sure, but as soon as the underworld films actually manage to become good that will matter. Is this whole thread just repressed teenagers being annoyed that their favorite rpg book isn't the paramount fiction form for a fake movie monster any more?
But.. the original World of Darkness.. It's... awesome.. no connection, ..damn... hate nwod.... *grumble* ...I'm not talking to you anymore, you Brad Pitt fan!
Orlanth wrote:I watched Lesbian Vampire Killers the other day on satellite, just to see if it ws as dire as hyped.
Twilight is a paragon of cinematic art in comparison, in fact I think pretty much anything is.
Trust me on this one, dont watch this rubbish. I could only stomach it as background while doing something else. Bersides James Corden and Matyhhew Horne are so irritaingly chavtastic I wouldnt mind if they met a sticky end.
You watched a movie called "Lesbian Vampire Killers" and you expected it to not be bad?
You should check your head for bumps or bleeding...
No I expected it to be very bad indeed. Whether or not I was 'disappointed' by what I saw depends on the interpretation of the word disappoint. I have started to nurture a hatred of James Corden since he bullied Sir Patrick Stewart on stage, but other than the odd snippet on YouTube I had seen nothing he was in, or in fact had heard of hi until his bhaviour dereww him to my attention. So I had to see the film for myself, and decided to watch it through because I was re-playing Baldur's Gate on my laptop at the same time.
Possibly the problem is that the publishers see dollars pouring in and are asking for more of the same. Maybe Meyer prefers it that way too.
Meyer can't turn young girls in to vampire loving teens imho. There is something that is striking a chord. Not going to claim she has tapped into the zeitgeist, but she has found a formula that works for a lot of young girls.
Meyer simply took a popular subject matter(vampires) that had faded out of mainstream literature after the boom around Anne Rice's novels and PG-13'd it up. The storyline of "girl falls in love with vamp and wants him to turn her so they can be together forever but he doesn't wanna' because her soul will be damned" has been done over and over and over again,but never really with teenagers. Because of the age(appearence in the vamps' cases),teenage girls can relate to the storyline better because they can more easily identify with the characters.
People who are sick of the vamp craze just have to wait. It will run it's course and fade to the shadows just like it always has. Fiction literature is cyclical. In fact,the urban fantasy/supernatural romance market is already starting to dry up.
Still,my sister had the greatest take on Twilight that I've ever heard...
"Yeah,I read the first book and read halfway through the second book,then I had to put it down. It was basically nothing but that insipid Bella whining about Edward and debating throwing herself off a cliff so Edward would come and save her. Really? All that for a 100 year old virgin that still lives at home with Mommy and Daddy? Sorry,Bella,no man worth a damn is saving himself that long just for you."
Well, actually, the term "fed up" would indicate that I existed in a state of being not "fed up" and that was never the case. Let me explain.
Vampires are parasites. Sorry, mishapped dregs that can't exist on their own and so have to steal the life of others. Hide in the dark, never come out, lonely freaks.
Like a tapeworm.
And yet vampires got romanticized and glorified into all powerful superhumans that don't have to fear the light of day anymore, look like Gemma Arterton/Johny Depp and are soooo cool, right?
So when will people start to romanticize tapeworms?
Yes, I know this phenomenon is related to the whole trans-human movement putting a mark on popular media though things like the superheroes comic books and stuff, but I still can't stand it. At least superhumans were conceived as being super from the beginning...
His Master's Voice wrote:Yeah, I'm fed up with Vampires.
Well, actually, the term "fed up" would indicate that I existed in a state of being not "fed up" and that was never the case. Let me explain.
Vampires are parasites. Sorry, mishapped dregs that can't exist on their own and so have to steal the life of others. Hide in the dark, never come out, lonely freaks.
Like a tapeworm.
And yet vampires got romanticized and glorified into all powerful superhumans that don't have to fear the light of day anymore, look like Gemma Arterton/Johny Depp and are soooo cool, right?
So when will people start to romanticize tapeworms?
Yes, I know this phenomenon is related to the whole trans-human movement putting a mark on popular media though things like the superheroes comic books and stuff, but I still can't stand it. At least superhumans were conceived as being super from the beginning...
Vampires aren't parasites, that would employ a single path symbiosis. While thats a relationship they are capable of in most instances they are just predators given the lack of repetitious feeding with a single individual. Mosquitoes and vampire bats are not parasites and everything eats to live.
ShumaGorath wrote:Don't pull transhumanism into this.
You've got a point here or what? The current vampire fad is clearly a byproduct of popular media assimilating transhuman theories and regurgitating them as Twilight crap.
ShumaGorath wrote:Vampires aren't parasites, that would employ a single path symbiosis. While thats a relationship they are capable of in most instances they are just predators given the lack of repetitious feeding with a single individual. Mosquitoes and vampire bats are not parasites and everything eats to live.
Flukes and fleas can feed on different subjects and they are considered parasites.
Vampires don't live.
You also missed the point.
Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Unless you a Jainist, your own life is parasitic and derives energy from stealing it from other lifeforms.
(I'm not suggesting you are a mishapen cannibal btw HMV!
just to make that clear! )
I could care less about any vampire craze, the concept is as cool as it ever was.
I have always thought of vampires as refined undead, after all that is what the idea is based on. Depraved individuals with little but their hunger to drive them.
Yeah, they are parasites though, at least as far as I see it. We aren't having a conversation about something real anyway, you could slap fangs onto just about anything and call it a vampire.
All "real", non glamorized, folk tale vampires needed human blood, and only human blood to sustain themselves. Thus they can be considered human parasites, or parasitoids, because in some cultures a vampire bite was always lethal. Mosquitoes or tigers don't care who they bite, a vampire does.
Again, that's not the point. Even if they aren't parasites, they're still based on a revolting concept that somehow got turned into things like Twilight or Rice novels. If we're doing it with cannibalistic rapists, why not with zoofilia or incest?
Regarding your latter point that was my observation early on in the thread. Vampires symbolise some unseen/unknown terror. They are a personification of the object of fear.
I don't think the Twilight take is without any validity, but am interested in how this cultural shift has come about.
I guess that there is always a sort of entropy involved in modern popular culture that domesticates and makes safe.
For example, and please don't scoff or laugh, unicorns.
If you asked people to describe a unicorn the majority will be a magical horse with a magical horn and aren't they beautiful sparkley and cute!
Whereas they are goatlike creatures with a horn, and flesh eating monsters that could only be tamed by a virgin. (Can wholly identify but that is another story )
Maybe, the reason is a positive one, of accepting with the darker aspects of the personality/culture. We also have science to explain away the terrors of disease and offer a hope of cure. Even AIDS because we know it is a viral infection loses its potential to scare us gakkless, since once known, we can at least take measures to prevent it's spread. The Mediaeval mind had no such reassurance of knowing how to efficiently prevent plagues.
Prawnkus wrote:Why do they sparkle? Just, why? It makes no sense. Are they made of diamonds?
They sparkle because Stepehnie Meyer found it sexy.....now a whole generation of teenage girls will scream in joy whenever they see a pale man in the sun with sweat on his skin. =Shakes head=
I read the Twilight books (Don't 'urt me, boss!) for the ladies, but yeah, the sparkling was dumb.
However, after watching Hellsing (The anime) I kinda got back into the vampire craze. Alucard is what a Vampire hero SHOULD be. "Have you no sense of Honor? Your a being of the night and you hide in a preists clothes, like a coward! For scum like you, there is not even a place in hell!" or "Have you had fun? Slaughtering families and drinking their blood, and your not even thirsty? Your nothing but an Animal!" or my personal favorite "IS THIS TRUELY ALL YOU'VE GOT! EVEN AFTER GAINING THE POWER OF A DEMON YOU ARE WEAK! SHOW ME MORE POWER! SHOW ME MORE POWER!"
It should be said that the anime itself is terrible, and it doesn't follow the mythos of vampires at all, but it is worth watching for Alucard alone.
Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Re: gltterballs: Watching the DVD was under the impression that is was to symbolise the uber, preternatural beauty/allure of Edward.
Really? That's...
umm...
really stupid.
And it shows how bad the writer is if he (or she) has to resort to that kind of writing tools.
Maybe they sparkle because someone thought they should in the world that she was creating? And if someone really has to take the time to criticize the maturity level of something from the "teen fiction" genre, what the hell are you expecting? Some nerds need to take a chill pill
Edit: Try glancing through The Host (her ADULT novel) before going to town on the writing. It's definitely a few notches up the totem pole.
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Try glancing through The Host (her ADULT novel) before going to town on the writing. It's definitely a few notches up the totem pole.
So she can write decent adult stuff but is to lazy to write good teenager books? Sorry if I don't buy that.
Note that I haven't read Twilight and I'm going by the provided assumption that glitter = allure, which is bad, shortcut writing no matter how you slice it. The assumption however can be wrong.
From her interviews (you can thank my girlfriend for me even paying attention to this) you learn that she never even intended to publish the books. That's why the writing from book 1 is so much less developed compared to the 4th one. The glitter thing came from her researching vampires and thinking out how she thought they might "actually" be. She theorized that their skin would be cold and really hard from not having blood running through it... like diamonds. Insert sparkles Hopefully that clears it up some. It's probably better to pick up a book before commenting on it.
I have read all the books, and I have to say, Breaking Dawn Sucks. It sucks hard. I seems like it was written by a 13 year old fan fic writer in her basement, and that she gave it to Stephanie, Stephanie stole it and that 13 year old girl was never seen again. Aslo, I really do NOT want to see the new book she is writing, about Edward. "Ooh, I'm a vampire, I sparkle, have vicious sex with me in 9 months so we can start a vampire war and you can almost die!" Also, Robert Pattinson has awful hair. It's deathly disgusting.
chowderhead13 wrote:Also, Robert Pattinson has awful hair. It's deathly disgusting.
Millions of fan girls disagree I really thought Breaking Dawn was a step up. It's like all the crap you could possibly imagine bombards them at once. And don't tell me you didn't enjoy the idea of Bella being eaten from the inside out by her child? It gets so... very dark.
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:. The glitter thing came from her researching vampires and thinking out how she thought they might "actually" be. She theorized that their skin would be cold and really hard from not having blood running through it... like diamonds. Insert sparkles Hopefully that clears it up some.
It all makes sense why these sparkly neo-vamps are a hit with the teen females now
chowderhead13 wrote: Aslo, I really do NOT want to see the new book she is writing, about Edward.
According to my wife, it was just going to be the first book but from Edward's perspective. There's even a line about how he must have done something wrong while he was alive as he's stuck in his own special hell because he's stuck doing high school over and over.
However, because one of her test readers leaked one of the revised manuscripts(she's apparently been through 3 or 4 revisions of it), she's decide NOT to finish or publish it.
And before anyone says anything about how I know stuff about this: I hang out with nothing but women now.
Buffy is so overrated >.< I watched that stupid series all the way through in a month and a half recently and I could see how it was ok for the time, but honestly it was about as impressive as Hercules and Xena Hey look, something good happened to Buffy! Wait, what's that? Now something really BAD is happening to her? Now it's getting worse? Now she was in heaven and her friends pulled her out? Now she's really just a crazy person who is imagining the whole series? WTF ever! Evil Willow was about the only thing worth my time in all of that.
off with seeing moody teens/crap actors endlessly portray vampires? Everytime I switch on the TV, pick up a magazine, look at the advert on the side of a bus, all I see is sun dodgers and moody teenagers. Being a teenager used to mean something in this country. You would get tanked up on cheap cider and get yourself kicked out off a pool hall or youth club, or even a local library. Nowadays it's all eternal life and romance. There is only one cure- bring back this man to put the fear of God in them:
Agreed, to this day I will still sit and watch that film.
But.. the original World of Darkness.. It's... awesome.. no connection, ..damn... hate nwod.... *grumble* ...I'm not talking to you anymore, you Brad Pitt fan!
