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Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 09:21:09


Post by: cheapbuster


What model do you hate making because it fall apart all the time, you need about 4 hands to hold it together, its too small and fiddily or some other reason ?

Mine would probley be the hive tyrant which (without pinning) kept falling apart. Thats his tail, arms, head and even his leg.

Other models are the:
Necron Wraith- cause its body kept snapping in half.
Drop pod- cause there were to many parts inside it.
Hive gaurd- both arms on both models had to be brocken out of plase so thay would fit.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 10:15:47


Post by: GoDz BuZzSaW


Broadsides are quite annoying as the railgun always falls off! but the bloodthirster is the most annoying as you need to drill a massive hole in its back to hold the wings together!


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 10:50:08


Post by: Xx_ECHO_xX


i would have to say tryannofex


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 10:51:50


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Direct Only Herald on Jugger.

Die in a fire.


Failing that, the original FW Stormblade.

Die in a carcinogenic fire.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 11:01:59


Post by: DEATH89


The Red Terror


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 11:02:26


Post by: GoDz BuZzSaW


DEATH89 wrote:The Red Terror

whats that?


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 11:07:56


Post by: Anshal


Titans in any variant


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 11:08:28


Post by: Xx_ECHO_xX


This thing, and its very annoying to make

[Thumb - Tyranid_Red_Terror.gif]


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 11:26:12


Post by: cheapbuster


GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:
DEATH89 wrote:The Red Terror

whats that?



big 'nid ravener thing Above ^


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 11:42:28


Post by: DEATH89


I think mine looks better with all the claws pointing down, the bloody tail's the worst bit


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 12:15:20


Post by: GoDz KI11JOY x


Bloodthirster it may not be the hardest to make but the limbs will not stay connected so drilling is required


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 12:15:57


Post by: Ardensfax


The most annoying model I've ever attempted could well be an old WHFB metal giant. Much more so than the Gauss pylon.

The most annoying that I assemble on a regular basis have to be Daemonettes. Evil, evil legs.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 12:31:12


Post by: GoDz KI11JOY x


cheapbuster wrote:
Drop pod- cause there were to many parts inside it.


i didn't know you made a drop pod?


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 12:48:13


Post by: Jaon


Trying to put the model HBs on a valkyrie is insanely hard. You have to line up the ramp at the back, the 2 HB locators , the 2 outer walls and the roof at the same time. I needed to get my dad to help me. Hes a legend

Also land raiders, I had the old metal land raider crusader kit (metal hurricane bolters) and it was so hard. The door mechanism at the front is impossible to get to work, and the bolters just wouldnt fething stick. FETH!

failing that anything metal, i wouldnt give a flying fart if they removed every metal model and replaced them with plastic, actually id love it.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 12:51:11


Post by: nosferatu1001


Old metal daemon prince. Gah.

From fantasy - Scrap launcher. You need 5 hands to keep everything in place, and it turns to scrap unless every single jiont is pinned.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 13:00:04


Post by: idget


Wraiths


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 13:15:51


Post by: ChocolateGork


Valkyrie as i needed about 4 hand to hold it together while it glued.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 19:04:08


Post by: gazelle


Space Marines of any flavor. I can't stand them. I don't even want to touch them. Ick!


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 19:08:21


Post by: Brettila


Freakin' metal bloodcrushers sucked like few things have sucked before. I would rather take a trip to the dentist than build another one of those. Boy, do the new plastic ones have a bunch of people pissed!


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 19:20:56


Post by: GoDz KI11JOY x


hell yeh bloodcrushers are so annoying that necklace just doesn't fit......


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 19:26:28


Post by: Jackmojo


Thunderfire Cannon is the worst one I've assembled recently. Shame really I love the look of it and would buy a couple more for conversions and other fun if they weren't such whores to put together.

Jack


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 19:38:52


Post by: SaintHazard


Tau Shield Drones. There is no good way to make those goddamn metal antenna stick unless you sit there for five minutes holding them in place.

Only to realize, naturally, they've drifted about five millimeters to the left, and they look DERP. At this point, the epoxy's set. That was a fun fix.

Goddamn shield drones.

Also, Telion was a massive pain in the ass, but mostly because I don't play Ultramarines, so it took me a while to file off all the UM insignia. Also, his arms wouldn't fit right, so I had to file those down as well. Never had to do so much filing on a metal model before I assembled him.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 19:46:02


Post by: rogersss


creed and kell are hard to put togeather.........


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 19:56:15


Post by: raptor8


chimera connecting the door top and the main body of the chimera at the same time is a pain


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 20:01:06


Post by: Lucid


Catachans . . . their guns have to be cut in order to fit, their hands don't really line up with the gun, and you have to glue the gun and both arms at the same time to get them to line up correctly . . . that wouldn't be so bad in and of itself, until you have to assemble 40 of them.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 20:03:17


Post by: Claypool


All my orks have been pretty painless so far but the old metal Nobz were the worst I've done. The bosspoles are so fiddly and I must've glued the figure to my finger a hundred times.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 20:31:45


Post by: FyoraSilverwolf


I really hated putting my Daemon Princess (see avatar) together because she wouldn't stay together. She kept falling apart. Everything except where she had greenstuff (face, chest) fell off at least once. The weapon still tends to fall off because it's custom made.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 20:43:32


Post by: SaintHazard


FyoraSilverwolf wrote:I really hated putting my Daemon Princess (see avatar) together because she wouldn't stay together. She kept falling apart. Everything except where she had greenstuff (face, chest) fell off at least once. The weapon still tends to fall off because it's custom made.

If you don't mind me asking, what'd you use to glue her together?


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 21:03:46


Post by: Tyranid Horde


Most metal models that require super glue, (deathleaper, hive tyrant, fire dragon exarch arm, all come to mind....) ugh, on those meetings I've glued myself to the table.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 22:27:13


Post by: IronChaos


Metal Plague Marines, using different arm combinations than in the box picture. And, of course, painting them D:


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 23:19:55


Post by: Valkyrie


The old Hurricane Bolters were such a pain in the arse to assemble, thank god for the new plastic kit. And the old Horrors of Tzeench, my god they required so much pinning.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 23:53:02


Post by: andruin


I just recently bought a thunderfire cannon... And it's just as much a pain as everyone says. I had to dremel off the main core of the gun to get it to fit on the base.

But even that wasn't anything compared to the techmarine it comes with... I've never had to pin so much in my life.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/29 23:55:47


Post by: Valkyrie


andruin wrote:I just recently bought a thunderfire cannon... And it's just as much a pain as everyone says. I had to dremel off the main core of the gun to get it to fit on the base.

But even that wasn't anything compared to the techmarine it comes with... I've never had to pin so much in my life.


And GW have the cheek to charge £35 for it!


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 05:58:50


Post by: fraggrenade


For me it's scouts, those arms never want to fit and the heavy bolter... well lets just say that was the first model I had to pin, and the first that took more that 45 minutes to glue together.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 06:10:07


Post by: FyoraSilverwolf


SaintHazard wrote:
FyoraSilverwolf wrote:I really hated putting my Daemon Princess (see avatar) together because she wouldn't stay together. She kept falling apart. Everything except where she had greenstuff (face, chest) fell off at least once. The weapon still tends to fall off because it's custom made.

If you don't mind me asking, what'd you use to glue her together?

Multiple different kinds of super glue, with kicker when I felt like it needed to go together faster. (Don't you dare say paint it red.) The one that has worked is something called control-gel of the Loctite brand superglue. I don't know why it works better than everything else (so far), but it does.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 06:16:24


Post by: Xx_ECHO_xX


GODDAMN METAL LANDRAIDER!!!!!!!!!!!


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 06:17:13


Post by: Brettila


Valkyrie wrote:The old Hurricane Bolters were such a pain in the arse to assemble, thank god for the new plastic kit.


You said it! To make it worse, mine was missing one of the [ shaped pieces that the bolters glue to. I had to construct one from pieces of sprue and German tank bitz. Talk about a pain.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 11:56:31


Post by: SaintHazard


FyoraSilverwolf wrote:
SaintHazard wrote:
FyoraSilverwolf wrote:I really hated putting my Daemon Princess (see avatar) together because she wouldn't stay together. She kept falling apart. Everything except where she had greenstuff (face, chest) fell off at least once. The weapon still tends to fall off because it's custom made.

If you don't mind me asking, what'd you use to glue her together?

Multiple different kinds of super glue, with kicker when I felt like it needed to go together faster. (Don't you dare say paint it red.) The one that has worked is something called control-gel of the Loctite brand superglue. I don't know why it works better than everything else (so far), but it does.

Well there's your problem right there, you're gluing metal models with superglue.

Granted it'll get them together (superglue is one of the few glues that will "bond" to metal), but expect them to fall apart within the month.

Do yourself a favor, go to your local craft/hobby store, and get a tube of two-part gel epoxy. It takes longer to set than super glue (so you'll need to pin it, set it up against something or hold it together manually for about five minutes) but that's the strongest bond you'll ever find, and now that it comes in gel form, it's no longer a huge mess to mix and apply. It will just about never fall apart, and the bond will be much stronger than superglue.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 12:00:14


Post by: MeanGreenStompa




PENITENT ENGINEZZZZ!!!!!!!!!


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 12:02:10


Post by: H.B.M.C.


MeanGreenStompa wrote:PENITENT ENGINEZZZZ!!!!!!!!!


I love the Penitent Engine, yet the sheer horror that comes to mind when I think about how I'd go about putting one together has always kept me away.

Please become plastic one day!


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 12:04:10


Post by: SaintHazard


MeanGreenStompa wrote:

PENITENT ENGINEZZZZ!!!!!!!!!


You may be the first person I've ever met who uses those.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 12:45:58


Post by: IZ TOM


MeanGreenStompa wrote:

PENITENT ENGINEZZZZ!!!!!!!!!

I know, its like OZ MA GODILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 12:58:25


Post by: Tim the Biovore


Not exactly the building part, but Bloodletters. The gaps between the legs and body, arms and body, etc.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 13:12:44


Post by: bubber


Big - PP Death Jack - lost 5 drill bits to that puppy.
Small - bog-standard necrons - really fiddly with hideous mold lines (which I have to take off every model) for a crappy little trooper


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 14:29:48


Post by: The_Hunter


Practicly any metalic model i'v every put together but the worst was without doubt the obliterators all those tiny knifes that have to be fitted onto the hands gah!


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 14:43:43


Post by: hemingway


that's easy. land speeders. hands down.

the old Master of the Ravenwing model sat in a box, half assembled, for probably 7 years. I took him out this month and finished him, and you know what i found? ANOTHER land speeder that I had bought, presumably out of sheer madness.

the top and bottom parts never mate properly, even with krazy glue (which granted has saved me a lot of trouble that some of you seem to have run into), and you have to apply about 15 lbs of pressure for a good minute or two to make the seam hold or else it will pop up when you glue down the other side.

in conclusion: f*ck landspeeders. anyone want to buy a landspeeder and master of the ravenwing? ; P


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 14:52:24


Post by: Hyenajoe


The old metal tyranid gargoyle model...


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 17:47:27


Post by: ~UnDeAd~


For me this has to be the Bloodcrusher of Khorne , i bought it expecting it to be easy to put together and whinking it would be easy to remove the mold lines , it was a different story the Head and neckpeice had large amounts of metal mold still attached to them making it harder to clean up without damaging it and the legs did not fit in place a way that the model would stand upright. Will not be purchasing one of them again in a hurry unless a plastic kit comes out.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 18:41:44


Post by: poipo32


~UnDeAd~ wrote:For me this has to be the Bloodcrusher of Khorne , i bought it expecting it to be easy to put together and whinking it would be easy to remove the mold lines , it was a different story the Head and neckpeice had large amounts of metal mold still attached to them making it harder to clean up without damaging it and the legs did not fit in place a way that the model would stand upright. Will not be purchasing one of them again in a hurry unless a plastic kit comes out.


You have less than a month to wait.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440160a&prodId=prod890007a


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 18:44:30


Post by: ZepherZealot257


Metal Daemon Prince defo!

Although I use Araldite on all my metal models and none of them have lost limbs yet! (touchwood )


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 19:19:09


Post by: FoxPhoenix135


I personally hate Zoanthropes the most. That skinny little waist is a pain to pin, and the way the vertical stacks/plates sandwich between the arms and the body is an absolute fail.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 19:25:37


Post by: SaintHazard


Speaking of (sort of), Venomthropes look like they'd be an absolute pain in the ass to assemble.

Never done it, but those long spindly tentacles that look like they probably go into ball joints... heh. Looks like a great time!


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 19:29:11


Post by: A Black Ram


Anything metal is extremely aggravating for me, as I am very impatient and they take forever to dry.

Tomb King skeletons are my groups' voted ''most annoying to put together''. Whenever someone says ''maybe I should start tomb kings'', we burst into laughter and snickers.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 20:10:07


Post by: YmeLocSquirrel256


Metal Daemon Prince defo!

Although I use Araldite on all my metal models and none of them have lost limbs yet! (touchwood )


Plastic mini comin' soon!

No-one's mentioned Swooping Hawk wings. Those things are just fiddly, and you can't pin 'em. About time I tried araldite on these guys.



Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 20:18:55


Post by: ~UnDeAd~


poipo32 wrote:
~UnDeAd~ wrote:For me this has to be the Bloodcrusher of Khorne , i bought it expecting it to be easy to put together and whinking it would be easy to remove the mold lines , it was a different story the Head and neckpeice had large amounts of metal mold still attached to them making it harder to clean up without damaging it and the legs did not fit in place a way that the model would stand upright. Will not be purchasing one of them again in a hurry unless a plastic kit comes out.


You have less than a month to wait.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440160a&prodId=prod890007a


Hey thank you buddy , had no idea about these , thing is i payed £18 for one metal model and for three of these it works out at around £10 each that is a massive saving for me , however my Daemons army is at the back of the wardrobe at the moment due to the new spearhead rules which i am focusing on.

~UnDeAd~


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 20:21:44


Post by: YmeLocSquirrel256


but yes, like a black ram, i love to hate metal minis. Although, on the other hand, all of that wasted sprue does bug me on plastic minis, metal minis seem more eco friendly, they only have a tiny bit of flashing... Generally, for me it's quite debatable, possibly for any of you 'eco' thinking guys like me. Not to say i'm going to be driving an electric city car for the rest of my life!


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/07/30 20:23:07


Post by: Popsicle


Thunderfire Cannons. And I haven't even Purchased or Built it yet!


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 11:41:04


Post by: GoDz BuZzSaW


Valkyrie wrote: And the old Horrors of Tzeench, my god they required so much pinning.


But you can't pin horrors, they're fearless.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 12:01:37


Post by: Corennus


Old style metal Space Marine Venerable Dreadnought. So bloody heavy and annoying to paint and pose.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 12:06:43


Post by: Laughing Man


Toss-up between Nyss Hunters and the Cyclops Savage. Either the arms are too damn thin to glue properly, or the arms need about an inch of greenstuff work to line up right.

Actually, let's go with the Cyclops. At the very least, the Nyss are FA:C.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 12:06:44


Post by: cheapbuster


GoDz KI11JOY x wrote:
cheapbuster wrote:
Drop pod- cause there were to many parts inside it.


i didn't know you made a drop pod?


Yah i got one when i was gonna make an sm army its all painted at my house


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Claypool wrote: I must've glued the figure to my finger a hundred times.


That was like when i was doing my flamers and horrors


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 12:19:21


Post by: SagesStone


Swooping Hawks.

Record for the wings staying attached is a week. >_>


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 12:28:45


Post by: Leigen_Zero


Four words:

Old Metal Killa Kan


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 12:36:47


Post by: P4NC4K3


EITHER:

Metal Bloodcrusher (PITA PITA PIIIIIITA!)

Lord of Change (Needs industrial strength glue to stay stood up)


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 12:39:00


Post by: RaegMachine


Chaos sorcerer x_x


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 12:43:02


Post by: Mattieau


All the top heavy metal eldar models. Metal wraithlord, metal 3rd edition war walker, etc.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 13:22:58


Post by: Thabow


don't know if this was already listed but the old Daemon Prince was the biggest crap show in my book, nothing fits together and the whole thing is just too heavy.

my two cents.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 13:29:40


Post by: SaintHazard


Thabow wrote:don't know if this was already listed but the old Daemon Prince was the biggest crap show in my book, nothing fits together and the whole thing is just too heavy.

my two cents.

Any large metal model is going to be an enormous pain in the ass. They're heavy, they don't hold together well (even with lumps of epoxy, I've always had to use GS on the joints) and nothing fits together properly without a crapton of filing.

I put together the old metal Daemon Prince the other day for a buddy, and I'm suddenly very glad my own DP is going to be from the new plastic kit.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 13:31:27


Post by: chromedog


ChocolateGork wrote:Valkyrie as i needed about 4 hand to hold it together while it glued.


Rubber bands, my friend. Rubber bands. They have saved the sanity of many modellers for decades. As essential to the construction of the landspeeder, Land Raider, and Baneblade as they are to the Valkyrie.

Jaon wrote:Trying to put the model HBs on a valkyrie is insanely hard. You have to line up the ramp at the back, the 2 HB locators , the 2 outer walls and the roof at the same time. I needed to get my dad to help me. Hes a legend


You don't need to glue the roof on to get the HB doorguns attached. I assembled the gun swing arms as one set, then the top anchors to the inner walls as the next.
ONLY AFTER the glue was dry did I have a go at putting the guns into the mounts and attach the side walls to the floor.

The swing arms do benefit from pinning to the spindles though (as the weight of the heavy bolters can snap them off quite easily).

Once you learn how to hold your hands in a certain way, so that all of your digits are being used, it gets easier.

None of GW kits rank in my "most hated" list.

All barely rank above "beginner level" kits.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 15:24:51


Post by: Cadet_Commissar_Ludd


Krootox, there is no way to get the body to fit together an have the gunner on his feet... AAGGH!!! *tears hair out of scalp*


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 17:16:58


Post by: BladeWalker


The older metal Venerable Dread. Where the two halves go together had HUGE gaps and after lots of work I still hate the dang thing (because of that hate he always fails, usually exploded in turn 1).


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 17:20:02


Post by: SaintHazard


chromedog wrote:None of GW kits rank in my "most hated" list.

All barely rank above "beginner level" kits.

Well aren't you special.

So, what, those of us who genuinely have trouble with GW kits are unskilled? Inferior?


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 19:49:32


Post by: sluggaslugga


Hellcannon.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 20:21:50


Post by: fabbes


I would have to say Penitent Engine and Inquisitor Lord Karamazov on the Thronw of Judgement...

I tried to glue them all together one evening without pinning and no matter what glue i used the parts just wouldn't stick!
Next day i "borrowed" some industrial grade superglue from work and i ended up glueing my self to all four models and ruining a livingroom table... but in the end they held together.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 20:31:53


Post by: SaintHazard


fabbes wrote:I would have to say Penitent Engine and Inquisitor Lord Karamazov on the Thronw of Judgement...

I tried to glue them all together one evening without pinning and no matter what glue i used the parts just wouldn't stick!
Next day i "borrowed" some industrial grade superglue from work and i ended up glueing my self to all four models and ruining a livingroom table... but in the end they held together.

Dude.

Epoxy.

It's your best friend when you have unassembled metal minis.

And I'd half expect that superglue to wear off and start falling apart a month later. Some superglues don't, though. But those are rare.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 21:13:12


Post by: Acardia


Zoenthropes hands down, being so top heavy, with thin waist was easily one of the biggest hatred gathers in my nid force. Thankfully I had 3 before they became uber good.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 21:13:35


Post by: Try Again Bragg


The old Leman Russ kit was evil. After you attach the first wheel and track section to the body the other one is hellish. The problem was it always started bending inwards, and the lip for the body inside the wheel section was 3 mm thick, seriously I pulled out my calipers and checked. It took me an hour to get that thing to open up and go all the way around the lip, amazed I didn't lose any hair trying to get that thing in. Supposedly its fixed in the new kit but I have yet to purchase one.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/03 22:25:11


Post by: Truffle


Thunderfire cannon they cost to much they are built gak you need to reshape the gun and do a tone of greenstuff and then after all of that they are crap ingame to.

And the necron pylon I have 2 of them and holy gak thats all I have to say about them.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/04 01:31:21


Post by: fabbes


SaintHazard wrote:
fabbes wrote:I would have to say Penitent Engine and Inquisitor Lord Karamazov on the Thronw of Judgement...

I tried to glue them all together one evening without pinning and no matter what glue i used the parts just wouldn't stick!
Next day i "borrowed" some industrial grade superglue from work and i ended up glueing my self to all four models and ruining a livingroom table... but in the end they held together.

Dude.

Epoxy.

It's your best friend when you have unassembled metal minis.

And I'd half expect that superglue to wear off and start falling apart a month later. Some superglues don't, though. But those are rare.


This was when i just had started with the hobby and thought that the GW metal glue was the God of all glue
Tried a bunch of different glues from various stores but never epoxy.
But that stuff i "borrowed" from work was a killer... a friend of mine accidently knocked one of the Engines over the table egde and all that happened was it took a large chunk out of the wooden floor


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/04 02:18:40


Post by: brandon noble


Assembling all 60 of my lil bros orks. Hurts your neck after awhile. and my MOTF. Had to hold it in place with superglue for 5 mins (left indentions) then had to fill the little cracks between parts with little bit of cement glue.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/04 03:42:55


Post by: chromedog


SaintHazard wrote:
chromedog wrote:None of GW kits rank in my "most hated" list.

All barely rank above "beginner level" kits.

Well aren't you special.

So, what, those of us who genuinely have trouble with GW kits are unskilled? Inferior?


Unskilled does not equal inferior in my world. It just means you haven't learned the hows-to yet. With over 25 years in the hobby (modelmaking), I have learned a thing or three.
Try any 1/35 tank kit with independent wheels, suspension and track links. GW plastic kits don't rank in difficulty compared to those.

With a dremel and knowledge of what putties work well in which filling roles, and the right tools, even 'hard' kits become somewhat easier.

Stow your nerdrage elsewhere.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/04 11:05:41


Post by: SaintHazard


chromedog wrote:
SaintHazard wrote:
chromedog wrote:None of GW kits rank in my "most hated" list.

All barely rank above "beginner level" kits.

Well aren't you special.

So, what, those of us who genuinely have trouble with GW kits are unskilled? Inferior?


Unskilled does not equal inferior in my world. It just means you haven't learned the hows-to yet. With over 25 years in the hobby (modelmaking), I have learned a thing or three.
Try any 1/35 tank kit with independent wheels, suspension and track links. GW plastic kits don't rank in difficulty compared to those.

With a dremel and knowledge of what putties work well in which filling roles, and the right tools, even 'hard' kits become somewhat easier.

Stow your nerdrage elsewhere.

Nerdrage nothin'.

Please phrase your original post otherwise in the future. I misunderstood and interpreted it as haughty superiority, but that's not difficult to do, the way it's worded.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/04 12:35:16


Post by: Ouze


SaintHazard wrote:Granted it'll get them together (superglue is one of the few glues that will "bond" to metal), but expect them to fall apart within the month.

Do yourself a favor, go to your local craft/hobby store, and get a tube of two-part gel epoxy. It takes longer to set than super glue (so you'll need to pin it, set it up against something or hold it together manually for about five minutes) but that's the strongest bond you'll ever find, and now that it comes in gel form, it's no longer a huge mess to mix and apply. It will just about never fall apart, and the bond will be much stronger than superglue.


I use loctite control gel, and have no problem with permanent strong bonds. My metal models hardly "fall apart within a month". My Shokk Attack Gun had the bosspole bit break off - but the metal failed, above the join. The only thing I dislike about the loctite gel (besides the fairly high price to volume ratio) is the containers they come in - they tend to clog fairly easily, and they appear to be empty when they actually have lots of glue (50%) still in them. Pull out the bottom plastic plug with pliers and see! You can remove the whole bottom plastic assembly if you have one that appears "empty", and use the rest that way.

I agree that using 2 part epoxy is definitely a must have for any very large metal model, but for the smaller ones (terminator size and smaller) it doesn't seem worth the hassle.


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But on-topic again - my most difficult model was probably the Thunderfire Cannon. I finally gave in and used the dremel tool to grind down the collet, and even then it took about 20 minutes of grinding at slow speed. It didn't help that the enormous amount of filing required repeatably caused me to fail my Gets Hot! rolls. It's a real shame because I love that model maybe about all others. Should really be released in plastic.

I have never really had a problem with Wraiths as others have with proper pinning.

I greatly dislike painting drop pods and won't do another if possible. Too much stuff going on and it's pretty hard in my experience to get all the doors to easily close and easily open all at once.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/04 16:18:45


Post by: PR0L0G


Nobz in Mega Armour. I really didn't expect much when buying six of those. Thought of the usual problems that would require me to pin and super-glue the whole thing.
But when they arrived, there were, unlike GW's bright happy pictures have promised, no visual hydraulics on the models. I lost many blades of my hobby knife and utterly destroyed
some other knives during the dozens of hours lasting Odyssey to carve away metal in order to free my Nobz.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/04 16:47:26


Post by: pandaman


ZAGSTRUCK his leg keeps making sure his body cant fit


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/04 17:57:39


Post by: easilyamused


By far was my khemri bloodbowl team, putting together those players pushed me to breaking point on many occasions.

Needless to say that whenever I picked one up my wife would leave the room


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/04 21:12:49


Post by: Lordraymond


Any IG tank, just for the damned track assembly and the fact that every time I tried to glue something on one of the tracks would fall off.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/07 00:04:56


Post by: Ducus Atreides


I have to say the stompa, Not that it is hard to put together, But it just seems poorly designed, There are gaps that have nothing to do with it being Ork but just bad fitting.

My next would be the metal Lictor, the back mounted arms keep breaking even with pinning, greenstuff, epoxy, blood, nasty words, evil eye.....


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/07 00:12:24


Post by: efarrer


Galrauch, The Chaos Dragon- Never hated a model worse, Though skorne titans may be close


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/07 00:17:34


Post by: Hits_the_spot


Forge world's Elysians. nothing fits quite right and they are super ingratiating to piece together. Although they do look ace when done.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/07 01:01:10


Post by: Mewiththeface


Venomthropes. The vents don't fit AT ALLLLLLLLL.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/07 06:30:20


Post by: fattyhasarrived


FW Khorne Demon Prince. Soooooooo many tiny spikes and skulls. Also anything metal.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/07 07:17:05


Post by: grizgrin


Tiny metal bitz are always a PITA. Hard to pin, leery of just gluing them on. My gf HATESHATESHATES skeletons, I think her VC are going to end up with a lot of ghouls and zombies!


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BTW thanks to mewiththeface for the heads up on the venomthropes.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/07 10:55:59


Post by: vent


Perfect grade Gundams... Pain in the ass...

Oh Citadel stuff? Anything large and Eldar like. Lots of spindly arms and legs requiring massive tensile strength...


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/07 11:04:49


Post by: Arctik_Firangi


Drop Pods are my personal least favorite. There is worse, but I won't have to make more than one of most other things, not since those plastic Kans came out...


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/07 15:24:01


Post by: SaintHazard


I have a new one: Flamers of Tzeentch. Irregular joints that consist of TINY ball-and-sockets, and they're a pain in the ass just to get stuck to a BASE.

I had to use masses of GS just to keep them from falling apart when handled - even epoxy wouldn't hold, with contact points as tiny as those. One of them is even GS'd to its base.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/07 20:43:43


Post by: Morgrim


The WFB hydra. Would be much easier if I had a dremel, because getting large enough pins in with my tiny pin vice is something I've given up on. Lots of glue and greenstuff is binding the necks to the body.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/07 21:02:17


Post by: Eldar Own


Mewiththeface wrote:Venomthropes. The vents don't fit AT ALLLLLLLLL.

Surprisingly, my venomthrope stays together! However the same cannot be for my zoanthrope.... It isn't, as you'd expect it to be, that oversized head of its not attaching to the body, its standing it up on the base. I'll be playing a game with my 'nids and suddely *crash* "ah, that'll be the zoan again...."

Other models i hate is the DE war hydra! Grrrr! Hate that thing! Grrr!

The DE black guard annoy me because they are supplied with diagonal slit bases, this means that your entire unit either faces left, or right. It's stupid! Black guard champion: "Right, chaps, let's advance on this unit of spearmen while looking at that nice chariot over there!" So annoying.

Tbh, metal models that are big than a normal man sized figure just annoy me, plastic is far better.



Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/08 00:44:24


Post by: asimo77


Immortals...just immortals. Everything about them is wrong. Also sonic weaponry was a little annoying.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/08 01:00:19


Post by: ceorron


Thunderfire cannon because of reasons already stated in:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/288621.page

+ loads of model related tales of pain and annoyance contained within.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/16 14:06:29


Post by: bigkevuk


nosferatu1001 wrote:Old metal daemon prince. Gah.

From fantasy - Scrap launcher. You need 5 hands to keep everything in place, and it turns to scrap unless every single jiont is pinned.


damm right mate, plus the thing is so sharp with the spikes and all that.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/16 22:39:56


Post by: bellumdominus


Ork burnaz. it seems that the plastic pieces never fit just right, or you get a good fit, but then you can't fit a head on the model.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/16 22:44:49


Post by: Lord Solar Awesome


My vandetta hands down. I hated every monent of using the horrible instructions and holding down pieces for ten minutes than watch in horror as it slowly fell down.


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/16 22:47:31


Post by: Epicwargamer


Metal Dwarf Gyrocopter, wait is this a 40k forum?


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Metal Dwarf Gyrocopter, wait is this a 40k forum?


Most hated model to make? @ 2010/08/16 22:57:23


Post by: zeronyne


Zoanthropes and the hands of Obliterators. I mean, are the weapon sprues for the oblits even remotely sized for the little finger sockets?