This covers both single player and MMO's

What is your favourite RPG game and why??

Fable: The Lost Chapters - It basically got me hooked onto RPG's with it great combat system, leveling up system and general story. Have completed it many, many times and still find new stuff.

It is followed very closely by Oblivion with its massive map, combat and story!

Pretty much both the same but Fable:TLC just clinches my fave as it was the 1st RPG type game I really enjoyed.

EDIT: Reason I started this thread is because I am playing Oblivion once again (On Xbox 360)

Fallout 3 and Mass Effect. (I like Mass Effect 2 also, but you can't explore planets anymore and that REALLY SUCKS!)

Also Red Faction: Guerilla if that counts as an RPG (Well, it has some RPG elements anyway.)

ME1 & 2 were good, Fallout 3 was ok, but i prefered Oblivion lol.

The Fallout series (1, 2 and 3) because it's Fallout and has the voice of Ron fethmothering Perlman. Mass Effect so far because it turned out to be something really good and not so bright eyed and happy as I initially thought it to be. I also still enjoy Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines, which is buggy and flawed as hell, but still a blast to play.

My favorit RPG games
1. Baldurs Gate 1&2 + expansions packs
2. Neverwinter Nigths
3. Mass effect 1&2
4. Morrowind

Planescape: Torment

Cool, hearing about some RPG's iv never heard of before lol, might have to go check a few of em out

This is a really difficult question, as I tend to only play games when they have some sort of RPG element to compliment them (I can't play linear games with no sort of character progression or customization; they feel absolutely worthless to me in most cases). The best I can do is give you a list of games.

Favorite Tactical RPG: Final Fantasy Tactics. Tactics has an incredible soundtrack, some of the most creative character design and artwork that I've ever seen, one of the most complex and emotional stories ever written, and hands down, the best class system ever made. I'll still be playing this game ten years from now. It's too bad that the Tactics Advanced games were so awful, and have permanently scarred the Tactics name.

Favorite JRPG: Final Fantasy VIII. VIII fixed every single imaginable problem present in the JRPG formula, while still keeping the style of gameplay familiar. Unfortunately, people cried foul without reflecting on how perfect the system was, and Final Fantasy's actual gameplay began to sink from this point onward. The storyline actually required a lot of retrospective thought, which I've always really enjoyed. VIII's soundtrack was also the culmination of seven previous games from Uematsu, and was by far the best in the numbered series.

Favorite Western RPG: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. Morrowind was an incredible experience from back to front, in it's own corner of a fantasy world that no one had ever had the chance to experience previously in quite the same way. The leveling system was perfect, the amount of content was ridiculous and painstakingly created, and the freeform nature of the game somehow managed to feel more rewarding than anything else. I really hated the ways in which Oblivion changed the formula and made the world so incredibly bland and generic.

Favorite MMORPG: Star Wars Galaxies (Keep in mind that I mean the version before the combat upgrade that unfortunately no longer exists). Galaxies used to be an incredible freeform world, with the best crafting system and economy that any MMO has ever seen, and the ability to build your character to exactly your specifications without being unbalanced. Unlike the stagnant EVE Online, SWG actually felt alive, with real player interaction that actually affected your experience. It felt like a fully realized world. Now, they've completely destroyed the structure of the game and no one plays it anymore. I'm still searching for something to fill the void.

Favorite Action RPG: Dissidia: Final Fantasy. Dissidia is an entirely unique game. I've never played anything remotely like it. People try to describe it as a Fighting Game, but that's an incredibly innacurate description. There is so much content that I'm 300 hours in and still not even close to finished. Everything about the game is unique, from the intricacies of the combat and the system it uses, to the system used to generate and create items, to the character customization, to the setup of the 'story mode'. Even if you don't like Final Fantasy, there's a chance you will ike this game, as even though it seems like a game for fanboys, it doesn't have to be. It's difficult to find a game with this much attention to detail and willingness to try something new, and that's what makes Dissidia awesome. Unfortunately, the Storyline is awful, but this game is all about the gameplay anyway (and I was kind of expecting that with such a mashup, to be honest).

I realize that this probably pegs me as a Final Fantasy Fanboy, but the three games I listed are the only three Final Fantasies that I'll even pick up and play anymore. I've played through most of the games, but by no means am I obsessed with the series.

Quite a good responce. Sadly of the Games uv mentioned iv only played the last one lol. Dissidia was a love it or hate it game for me, if i loved the gameplay it would keep me playing for hours, if i hated it then it would become a dust magnet. The new take onto the gameplay was a real break away from the original FF series which I enjoyed. The fact it also had all the main characters from the series then theres a very good chance ur fav is there (mine being Cecil lol)

There are alot of RPG's that I feel need to be recognised but if i had a wall of text going through every one of them nobody would read it.

Fallout 3 series, red dead redemption and star wars knights of the old republic

Xx_ECHO_xX wrote:Fallout 3 series, red dead redemption and star wars knights of the old republic

Red dead is an RPG?? Hmm always thought it was shooter type, still doesnt interest me much tbh

johnscott10 wrote:Quite a good responce. Sadly of the Games uv mentioned iv only played the last one lol. Dissidia was a love it or hate it game for me, if i loved the gameplay it would keep me playing for hours, if i hated it then it would become a dust magnet. The new take onto the gameplay was a real break away from the original FF series which I enjoyed. The fact it also had all the main characters from the series then theres a very good chance ur fav is there (mine being Cecil lol)

There are alot of RPG's that I feel need to be recognised but if i had a wall of text going through every one of them nobody would read it.

Dude, if you haven't played Final Fantasy VIII, you seriously need to. It's only something like 10 or 15 USD on the PlayStation Network, which will allow you to play it on your PSP. Here's why it's more than worth your money:

The 'Guardian Force' system is much like Tactics, but since you haven't played that either, I'll simply have to explain further. Basically, each of your summons has a list of it's own individual abilities that can be transferred to any character that the summon is equipped to. These abilities exist on a separate XP system known as AP (AP is gained in every fight, and once you max out an ability's AP, it becomes useable), and there are a wide assortment of both active and passive abilities which can be equipped to different slots on each character. Basically, what this means is that a character can have as many 'classes' as you wish (depending on how many summons you have equipped to them), and you can pick and choose from the abilities of each 'class' to create your ideal character. If this helps to give you an idea, Materia has nothing on the Guardian Force system.

The game scales to your character's actual level, but it's on a diminished scale. This means that you can run through the game without grinding whatsoever, but the game does get considerably easier as you level up. If you don't want to spend time leveling, though, you never have to. The magic system was completely reworked in VIII, and it is most people's biggest complaint, but most people don't realize the inherent balance in the system. Instead of having an expendable pool of 'MP' that you can just regenerate with items whenever you need to, Magic is drawn from specific enemies, and used in essentially the same way that items are (you can have a stack of 100 of any magic). However, you can 'junction' magic to any of your character's stats, such as HP, Attack Power, or Defense, and the better the magic is, the more of a bonus it gives to the stat you junction it to. This forces you to really question whether or not you need to use your magic, because when you do, it makes your stats go down, and you may not be able to draw that specific magic again for a while. Absolutely brilliant, in my opinion, and far superior to having a virtually limitless pool of MP (which always caused magic to be overpowered in every single traditional JRPG).

You never have to grind for money. Money is given to you for each in-game step you take, and the amount is based of your knowledge of the game world and system. You also never really have to focus on buying new weapons or armor. Each character has about three different weapons that you can build for them, and they actually have a profound effect on your character's effectiveness (and not simply a raise in attack power). You can also 'junction' elemental and status magic to your attack and defense, so that completely removes having to buy or equip a specific weapon or piece of armor to attack with or defend from a certain element or status effect.

Instead of having a bunch of disjointed minigames that ultimately serve no purpose in the game, Final Fantasy VIII has a card game that you can play with most NPCs. When you manage to collect rare cards, these can be refined into some of the game's rarest items, which includes items that are necessary for building Ultimate Weapons, for example.

Squaresoft really thought of every resounding problem in the genre, and fixed nearly every single one of them. I couldn't hope to touch on every intricate facet of the game. I almost forgot to mention that VIII is easily one of the best-looking games on PSone, and it's still easily tolerable in the current generation (if you're worried about that sort of thing). The music is brilliant, the world is, thematically, the most coherent world to exist in a Final Fantasy game (aside from perhaps X), and the story is mostly focused on war and the complex nature of time paradoxes (VIII requires a lot more thought and speculation to make sense of the storyline than any other Final Fantasy, which I really enjoy). Seriously, you'll be doing yourself a favor by buying it off the PSN.

Red dead is an RPG?? Hmm always thought it was shooter type, still doesnt interest me much tbh

Red Dead Redemption definitely has a few RPG elements in it, but it's not exactly an RPG. It's still one of the greatest games of this generation, and if you don't plan on playing it, you'll be missing out on an incredible experience regardless. Trust me. I hate western movies and the like, and I love Red Dead Redemption.

I may very well consider getting FFVIII if my memory card and back can handle it. XD

I have tried FFVII which i never really got into, not 100% sure why. But if i get the chance I will give FFVIII a try.

VII and VIII are so far removed from each other that it's not even funny. That's probably why so many people hated VIII when it first came out, and have grown to respect it more with time. It is more 'science fiction' and 'high technology' oriented, but in a totally different (and more coherent) way. That's about the only thing that they even come close to having in common.

FYI, Final Fantasy VIII is 1800 MB, which is a pretty hefty file. If you don't have the room on your Memory Stick, I recommend using the USB chord to transfer your existing PSP data to your computer to fit Final Fantasy VIII on there, then transfering it back whenever you need to. That's what I have to do; my Memory Stick is only two gigs.

Be sure to let me know what you think of it if you ever do buy it.

Chrysaor686 wrote:FYI, Final Fantasy VIII is 1800 MB, which is a pretty hefty file.

Hmm not good at all.... my current memory card is only 1GB, so FFVIII wouldnt fit on it even if i did remove all the files haha.

Guess ill need to get a new memory card when i can.

Morrowind is my favourite due to the sheer scale of it and the story.
The combat system could of been better but otherwise its my favourite RPG

Morrowind hands down was mine. I spent practically a year and a half of my life in that game. I still play it from time to time, though its showing its age but it was still a good ass game!


And Fallout/Fallout3. I dunno if youd call Fallout an rpg but its close anyways. Im still blown away at how awesome the original was. Fallout3, seriously this game is just the tits. I cant wait for New Vegas to drop.

Id have to say Kotor 1 and 2 are absolute tops, SWG was yes an excellent MMO, with some features that even modern day MMOs really need, like the economics and crafting, god bless you SWG.

ANYWAY

Fallout 3 was fun as hell, red dead redemption isnt an RPG AT ALL but its an awesome game, I reccomend it and dont fall under the influence that it is the same as GTAIV, GTAIV has nothing on RDR.

Fable TLC i have to agree with, for all the hate its an awesomely cool game.

And, even tho its a shooter, I have to mention tribes: vengeance. Runs on the UT04 engine and is old as hell, but its one of the funnest game mechanics I've played in a long time, and its story is the best, SO MUCH BETRAYAL.

I love betrayal, unless its in the form of kreia...the betrayer...GRRRRRRRRR. (anyone else who craid when they crashed on malachor V thumbs upp....oh wait.)

If anyone cares, Felicia Day said that her favorite RPG was
Ultima V.

All time favorite has to be Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. I really could never get into Morrowind (I always thought the combat sucked, tbh) but Oblivion I've been having a blast with. I just love the fact that I'm the guild master of both the Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves' Guild, a vampire, and have a couple thousand gold pieces at about level 6 - and still haven't started the main storyline.

I'm having a resurging desire to play Mount & Blade: Warband. It's like taking Medieval: Total War and adding an RPG mode to it. Right down to becoming the King of a nation, and conquering your neighbors

Mass Effect and Fallout series. Elder Scrolls is pretty good too.

Demons souls for ps3 is my favorite in recent memory. The disgaea series is awesome as are the smt persona games for ps2. Cant really pick an all time favorite, xenogears / suikoden 1 and 2 / baldurs gate 2 / morrowind, way to many awesome games to choose from

Seems like Morrowind gets a lot of love around here.

Final Fantasy is the one for me, amazing games. Espically the 3 made for the original Playstation.
In recent years Fable has been a big one, started on Fable 2, & i recently picked up a very good second hand copy of Fable 1 for £2.94, and the Third is getting a release days before my next birthday so will naturally be picking that up.
Fallout 3 was also epic, in scale & detail, You really could believe you were in another world playing that for too many hours in one day. Again the new fallout will be on my shopping list once released.

deejaybainbridge wrote:Final Fantasy is the one for me, amazing games. Espically the 3 made for the original Playstation.

You completely forgot about Tactics, the best of them all.

Definitely Mass Effect 2. ME1 was great but the shooter elements were awful compared to other TPS games. All we need are more interesting side-missions.

mass effect/ mass effect 2

if they could make a single player rpg set in the 40k universe were you play and inquisitor hunting down deamonic cults set on a hive world i think it would probably be the best game ever made

Fallout 3 and Oblivion ( Game of the Year editions ).They are both cracking games and offer so much to do in a big free roaming world.

Hehe, doesnt seem as if Morrowind is gettin alot of love but Bethesta as a whole, gotta hand it to them, they know how to make good RPG's. Even if they dont suit ur style of play IE Fantasy(Oblivion) or Shooter(Fallout 3).

johnscott10 wrote:Hehe, doesnt seem as if Morrowind is gettin alot of love but Bethesta as a whole, gotta hand it to them, they know how to make good RPG's. Even if they dont suit ur style of play IE Fantasy(Oblivion) or Shooter(Fallout 3).

I just felt that it was particularly interesting that most people are saying 'Morrowind' and not 'Oblivion'. I thought I was one of the only people that felt this way.

And I agree, Bethesda is one of my very favorite development studios. They have the best grasp on what makes a good open-ended game, even if they do get a little repetitive with their own formula.

Chrysaor686 wrote:even if they do get a little repetitive with their own formula.

FF series much?? lol. I know during the FF series the combat is mostly the same turn based fights. I do however like their combat in FFXIII as its a bit different than just wait for 1 bar to fill then attack, you pretty much choose how many bars to use to attack.

The only game i personally have played from the FF series that doesnt use this mechanic is FF7:Crisis Core, very well made game.

Locclo wrote:All time favorite has to be Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. I really could never get into Morrowind (I always thought the combat sucked, tbh) but Oblivion I've been having a blast with. I just love the fact that I'm the guild master of both the Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves' Guild, a vampire, and have a couple thousand gold pieces at about level 6 - and still haven't started the main storyline.

And thats the really big problem I personally have with Oblivion. Yea its a nice polished game, and the combat mechanic really is pretty awesome (FINALLY you can punch things to death how awesome!) but I think the magic was totally hoed in that game for starters. In Morrowind I used to spend hours just thinking up magic spells, doing the intelligence "cheat" and making them happen. I once created my version of the Icarian flight spells, I couldnt jump as far, but I was about halfish way there. And dont get me started on the enchantments for it.

Same with the lvling system. That REALLY bugged me (since I was never a HUGE magical user fan) the best I did was beat the entire game by like lvl8. And that just wouldnt happen. I mean at 8 your BARELY better then a commoner. Not to mention you cant really mix and match armor sets. Bummer on that one.

But other then that I do agree the game is pretty damn cool. I plan on saving up some cash to buy it for the PS3 here some day. I enjoyed it other then those 2 major things.


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Chrysaor686 wrote:

johnscott10 wrote:Hehe, doesnt seem as if Morrowind is gettin alot of love but Bethesta as a whole, gotta hand it to them, they know how to make good RPG's. Even if they dont suit ur style of play IE Fantasy(Oblivion) or Shooter(Fallout 3).

I just felt that it was particularly interesting that most people are saying 'Morrowind' and not 'Oblivion'. I thought I was one of the only people that felt this way.

And I agree, Bethesda is one of my very favorite development studios. They have the best grasp on what makes a good open-ended game, even if they do get a little repetitive with their own formula.

And have you played Pirates of the Caribbean made by them for the xbox? It was a pretty damn good pirate game. I agree Bethesda makes some real good games.

johnscott10 wrote:FF series much?? lol. I know during the FF series the combat is mostly the same turn based fights. I do however like their combat in FFXIII as its a bit different than just wait for 1 bar to fill then attack, you pretty much choose how many bars to use to attack.

The only game i personally have played from the FF series that doesnt use this mechanic is FF7:Crisis Core, very well made game.

I never said that Final Fantasy didn't beat it's own formula to death (with a few rare exceptions); I only mentioned that Bethesda are starting to.

I have to respectfully disagree with Crisis Core being a good game. I thought it was awful. Very basic system that never requires you to do more than simply attack and dodge, and everything important was handled with a random slot machine. I also felt that the storyline was awful, and the change in the design of the world was equally bad.

KingCracker wrote:And have you played Pirates of the Caribbean made by them for the xbox? It was a pretty damn good pirate game. I agree Bethesda makes some real good games.

Bethesda also publishes games that aren't developed in-house. The only games that BethSoft have really sunk their teeth into are The Elder Scrolls Series, the new incarnation of the Fallout Series, and Call of Cthulu (which I believe was scrapped). They don't really have time for anything else; their games are massive.

Hehe all this talk of RPG's makes me want to go back to play some of the older ones. Especially Fable:TLC however I heard the Xbox 360 no longer has backwards compatability due to some server issue which doesnt really make sence to me

Morrowind is the greatest game ever devised. I have yet to find another game that allows me to grow a mushroom house guarded by steam-powered robots.

RustyKnight wrote:Morrowind is the greatest game ever devised. I have yet to find another game that allows me to grow a mushroom house guarded by steam-powered robots.

+1

johnscott10 wrote:Hehe all this talk of RPG's makes me want to go back to play some of the older ones. Especially Fable:TLC however I heard the Xbox 360 no longer has backwards compatability due to some server issue which doesnt really make sence to me

Eh! really. you can DL the original Fable off the marketplace, but i know some original xbox games work on the 360 and some dont. the original fable is supposed to, i tested it quickly on mine looked to jump a little but nothing to serious.

I have to make a top5 list... I can't choose.

In order of time burnt:
Baldur's Gate Series
Fallout 1+2
FF:Tactics
Diablo 2
Ultima Series

I easily spent more time re-playing FF:X than on any single Ultima game, but Tactics... I still break it out often.

deejaybainbridge wrote:Eh! really. you can DL the original Fable off the marketplace, but i know some original xbox games work on the 360 and some dont. the original fable is supposed to, i tested it quickly on mine looked to jump a little but nothing to serious.

Yea i know its downloadable but why pay for something when i have the expanded version?? Well i say i have it but atm i believe its on loan to a mate which was somewhat disappointing when i wanted to play it earlier XD

My top favorites are:

Final Fantasy VII
Mass Effect Series
KOTOR series
Oblivion

Just because it has some RPG elements to it, what about X-Com? :-)

X-com is the best game evar.

Totally! Terror From the Deep was a worthy sequel.

KOTOR (1&2)
Mass Effect 1&2
Oblivion
Fallot 3

I'm waiting for a metalhead RPG now...

1. Morrowind
2. Oblivion
3. Knights Of The Old Republic 1 (two was good but the rushed development/release of the game was really apparent)
4. Mass Effect 1 (The second felt more like a third person shooter than an RPG)
5. Dragon Age: Origins
6. Fallout 3

I debated putting Borderlands on the list given it's talent system/weapon looting/quests etc.

Chrysaor686 wrote:

johnscott10 wrote:Hehe, doesnt seem as if Morrowind is gettin alot of love but Bethesta as a whole, gotta hand it to them, they know how to make good RPG's. Even if they dont suit ur style of play IE Fantasy(Oblivion) or Shooter(Fallout 3).

I just felt that it was particularly interesting that most people are saying 'Morrowind' and not 'Oblivion'. I thought I was one of the only people that felt this way.

And I agree, Bethesda is one of my very favorite development studios. They have the best grasp on what makes a good open-ended game, even if they do get a little repetitive with their own formula.

Bethesda is a great developer, only issue I've had with the games they make is with the animations/appearance of character faces (though F3 improved the appearance of characters significantly).

Modern Warfare 2.
Greatest rpg ever.
(joking, joking)
My favorite is Morrowind. Best storyline IMO.

1. Planescape Torment
2. Fallout 1& 2
3. Deus Ex (I consider it an RPG mostly)
4. Dragon Age
5. Morrowind
6. Mass Effect 1 (I didnt like 2 as much...80% of the game was gathering your party o.0 )

Currently Playing Demon's Souls on PS3 and thoroughly enjoying it, and Gothic 3 on PC and having fun destroying the rebel scum

Need more love for older rpgs imo. Get some earthbound up in here

On a related note, I recently purchased a PS1 off of ebay to play FF's V,VII, and VIII.

Final Fantasy Tactics
Persona 3 & 4
Lufia II
Xenogears
Phantasy Star IV

Crono trigger...

Imperial Commando wrote:Bethesda is a great developer, only issue I've had with the games they make is with the animations/appearance of character faces (though F3 improved the appearance of characters significantly).

And that they don't test play their games anymore before they release them. That and the fact that when fan patches fix a lot of issues that Bethesda ignores with their patching, they (Bethesda) take the credit for it.

Chongara wrote:Final Fantasy Tactics
Persona 3 & 4
Lufia II
Xenogears
Phantasy Star IV

Oh man lufia 2 i remember that game lmao. Good times.

Oh man....How did I forget Chrono Trigger. That one was great!

first of all:

all the classic snes rpgs are awesome,i still play them now and then.i still have secret of evermore,secret of mana,terranigma,zelda:a link to the past(kinda rpg),breath of fire 2...

Chrysaor686 wrote:

The 'Guardian Force' system is much like Tactics, but since you haven't played that either, I'll simply have to explain further. Basically, each of your summons has a list of it's own individual abilities that can be transferred to any character that the summon is equipped to. These abilities exist on a separate XP system known as AP (AP is gained in every fight, and once you max out an ability's AP, it becomes useable), and there are a wide assortment of both active and passive abilities which can be equipped to different slots on each character. Basically, what this means is that a character can have as many 'classes' as you wish (depending on how many summons you have equipped to them), and you can pick and choose from the abilities of each 'class' to create your ideal character. If this helps to give you an idea, Materia has nothing on the Guardian Force system.

also you need to know exactly which gf you need to combine to max out your group and not to lower the friendship between the gf and the person its connected to.

Chrysaor686 wrote:
The game scales to your character's actual level, but it's on a diminished scale. This means that you can run through the game without grinding whatsoever, but the game does get considerably easier as you level up. If you don't want to spend time leveling, though, you never have to. The magic system was completely reworked in VIII, and it is most people's biggest complaint, but most people don't realize the inherent balance in the system. Instead of having an expendable pool of 'MP' that you can just regenerate with items whenever you need to, Magic is drawn from specific enemies, and used in essentially the same way that items are (you can have a stack of 100 of any magic). However, you can 'junction' magic to any of your character's stats, such as HP, Attack Power, or Defense, and the better the magic is, the more of a bonus it gives to the stat you junction it to. This forces you to really question whether or not you need to use your magic, because when you do, it makes your stats go down, and you may not be able to draw that specific magic again for a while. Absolutely brilliant, in my opinion, and far superior to having a virtually limitless pool of MP (which always caused magic to be overpowered in every single traditional JRPG).

which means that you cant use all the great spells you have because your stats go down.
and having every spell on every char 100 times is not limitless?at least you have to use an item to regain mp in other rpgs.

Chrysaor686 wrote:
You never have to grind for money. Money is given to you for each in-game step you take, and the amount is based of your knowledge of the game world and system.

its not knowledge.you take tests and everytime you pass a test you get more money after a certain amount of steps.
those "test about your knowledge" are 10 y/n questions which obviously can be answered by anyone,even if you never heard of final fantasy

Chrysaor686 wrote:
Instead of having a bunch of disjointed minigames that ultimately serve no purpose in the game, Final Fantasy VIII has a card game that you can play with most NPCs. When you manage to collect rare cards, these can be refined into some of the game's rarest items, which includes items that are necessary for building Ultimate Weapons, for example.

right,its much better to only have 1 game that sucks.
while the game itself isnt too bad and has a wide variety of rules,its just annoying to play it to get the cards you need again and again and again...

Chrysaor686 wrote:
I almost forgot to mention that VIII is easily one of the best-looking games on PSone, and it's still easily tolerable in the current generation and the story is mostly focused on war and the complex nature of time paradoxes (VIII requires a lot more thought and speculation to make sense of the storyline than any other Final Fantasy, which I really enjoy).

while i agree on the point that the graphics are great i cant say the same thing about the story.

most characters are boring,you get the standard love story for the main character and the story is kinda easy to see throu and doesnt make sense,even if you know whats going on.


a lot of critique from my side here.
nonetheless i enjoyed ffXIII and its not a bad game at all(you really should get it) but im more a ff1-7 person ^_^

I must say that I am giving #1 to Secret of Mana, which was THE game that got me into gaming.

1. Secret of Mana for the SNES
2. Bioshock's 1/2
3. Dragon Age: Origins
4. Oblivion
5. Guild Wars

You could have a mushroom house guarded by golems in Morrowind? I never knew that, might have to steal my brothers copy of the game.

Steal it NAOW.

Oblivion has been my fav Rpg ever since i got it

OBLIVION FTW

HamHamLunchbox wrote:You need to know exactly which gf you need to combine to max out your group and not to lower the friendship between the gf and the person its connected to.

Friendship is only significant if you want to make the most out of actually summoning your Guardian Forces, which is inconsequential when compared to the possibilities of other combinations of abilities. Also, there are items that boost friendship and supercede this for when you really need to use your GFs.

which means that you cant use all the great spells you have because your stats go down.
and having every spell on every char 100 times is not limitless?at least you have to use an item to regain mp in other rpgs.

You just answered your own question. Having 100 copies of a spell is only significant to boosting your stats. Losing stats every time you cast a spell is far more limiting that a virtually endless pool of MP. Also, you forget that it takes effort to find those spells and draw them from enemies and points on the map, and you don't have unlimited access to them.

its not knowledge.you take tests and everytime you pass a test you get more money after a certain amount of steps.
those "test about your knowledge" are 10 y/n questions which obviously can be answered by anyone,even if you never heard of final fantasy

Good luck passing any of the SeeD questions without actually playing the proper game (short of cheating with a strategy guide).

right,its much better to only have 1 game that sucks.
while the game itself isnt too bad and has a wide variety of rules,its just annoying to play it to get the cards you need again and again and again...

It was also annoying to race and breed Chocobos again and again so you could get the Gold Chocobo, but plenty of people did that. At least the card game was far more involving and entertaining.

And yes, it's better to have one game that sucks than a bunch that suck even worse. Even if you hated the card game, you still have to admit that it was worth more than the pointless and trivial minigames in VII, or the horrible game that was Blitzball.

while i agree on the point that the graphics are great i cant say the same thing about the story.

most characters are boring,you get the standard love story for the main character and the story is kinda easy to see throu and doesnt make sense,even if you know whats going on.

I never said the story was great (even though that's my opinion), I just stated that it requires much more thought to make sense of than any other Final Fantasy. It's perfectly possible to make sense of the storyline, you just have to play a little game of 'connect-the-dots' to put the storyline into proper perspective once it's over. There's also a lot that's subjective. I'd say it's closest to the 'Chrono' series without being quite so convoluted.

I felt that the characters were much more relatable and realistic than previous characters in the series, and not quite so two-dimensional or stereotypical. They tried to add this 'personal' weight to the stereotypes in IX, which I thought was kind of cool, and X dealt more with archetypes. XI didn't have characters with personality (aside from your own), XII's characters were fairly inconsequential to the actual plot, and I can't comment on XIII's characters quite yet. While VIII's characters had their flaws (writing wise, not character development wise), they were still far less stagnant and generic than anything the series had previously offered.

Also, even if the love story was fairly standard, at least it wasn't the underdeveloped mess that took place in VII.

Chrysaor686 wrote:[
Good luck passing any of the SeeD questions without actually playing the proper game (short of cheating with a strategy guide).

you just need to answer the first question with yes and the rest with no.same for the 2nd,3rd...question.depending on each result you know if the first,2nd,3rd...question is right or wrong.

ffXIII can be talked about for hours and i understand why you dont like this or like something else,but its probably the FFgame that splits the ff community the most.

there are a lot of great things in ffXIII but you love or hate them.

i enjoyed every second(hell,i watched the fight of the gardens countless times) but overall it just didnt do it for me(prob selphies fault XD ).sounds weird i know.

HamHamLunchbox wrote:
ffVIII can be talked about for hours and i understand why you dont like this or like something else,but its probably the FFgame that splits the ff community the most.

there are a lot of great things in ffVIII but you love or hate them.

i enjoyed every second(hell,i watched the fight of the gardens countless times) but overall it just didnt do it for me(prob selphies fault XD ).sounds weird i know.

You know the worst part? If you don't enjoy VIII, you have a thousand other JRPG games that play in essentially the same way as the games that you do enjoy, with only minimal changes to keep the games in question interesting. If you honestly appreciate every change that VIII made to the JRPG system, then you're stuck with VIII (as you've been burnt out on the thousands of other similar titles in the genre). Every other game that radically changed the formula did so in an incredibly invasive way, to the point where you're no longer playing a game from the same genre. VIII is the only game to offer a solution to every conceivable complaint in the genre without destroying the basic formula.

It's unfortunate that there weren't more games within the genre that catered to my tastes and general disinterest in the way things tend to work within a JRPG, because then I wouldn't have to defend Final Fantasy VIII so readily.

Neverwinter Nights series!!! for me, the greatest!

Ammon Jerro is a fething badass!!!

My favorite RPG of all time is Final Fantasy 6 (Released as 3 on the SNES, the version I initially played). Fantastic story, art, combat...the game had it all. I also believe it was one of the earliest "Open-play" games on the market (You could pretty much choose how you wanted to handle World 2).

Final Fantasy Tactics would be very, very close behind it. I agree that it's the best class system ever devised, and the story was top notch (probably better than FF6's, really). My ONLY problem with it was the inability to fast-scroll the text. My god it had the slowest dialogue EVER.

Fallout 3 is currently sucking up my time like nobody's business. I haven't enjoyed a game this much for years and years. I'm glad I picked it up in time to really savor it before New Vegas comes out.

For one that nobod's mentioned/knows about - Talonsoft's Jagged Alliance series. I remember playing the 2nd version until the wee hours of the morning on a dial-up modem with a friend, but they really knocked it out of the park with the 3rd one. Can't remember what the title was exactly, but it was a heck of a military RPG game.

Final Fantasy 8 killed the series for me I'm afraid. The draw system just killed it for me. FF9 almost brought me back into the fold, but then 10 came out and I haven't been able to stomach a FF since, which is a pity considering how much I enjoyed Tactics and 6 (7 too, really, although dropping to 3 characters killed me).

Its i tie between the Fallout Series and Fable for me.
I like the Mass effect series but at times its a bit repetitive and i hated mining in ME2, but still it was a good game and ive played it through a few times.

Now then. You ask me this question 10 years ago the answer would be Pokemon.

You ask me now:
Mass Effect Series.
FF1,2,3,7 (the ones I own)
Paper Mario 2: The Thousand Year Door. (Always been a favourite.)
Castle Crashers. (It has Rpgs elements.....)

VikingScott wrote:Now then. You ask me this question 10 years ago the answer would be Pokemon.

You ask me now:
Mass Effect Series.
FF1,2,3,7 (the ones I own)
Paper Mario 2: The Thousand Year Door. (Always been a favourite.)
Castle Crashers. (It has Rpgs elements.....)

Oh snap, I forgot pokemon... and X-Com...

Morrowind to the max!!! Fave game in all categories not just rpg

Fallout 1-2
Summoner

Favourite MMO: Guildwars 2 Nightfall
This user friendliness and anti grind gameplay puts this game far above others in my opinion. It was also cool to see your character to have voice acting and actually contribute towards the storyline in cut scenes rather than be a silent, voiceless observer like 99% of games.

Favourite JRPG/Cinematic Style RPG: Final Fantasy VIII
Unlike other JRPGs, the story is actually well written and makes sense. It is everything a story should be, from being dramatic, comedic, addictive and emotive. I’ve always thought an FFVIII movie or novel would do well. The combat system was also decent. It rewarded the player for contributing effort and if a player put in the hard yards, they could get a god like character by the end of the game.

Favourite Western RPG/Old School RPG: Fallout 2
I personally like Fallout 2 because of its tongue in cheek humour and freedom aspect of the game. While I am also a fan of all the Fallout games, Fallout 2 was the most successful in implementing this. Character development was both strategic and entertaining. The only downside to playing Fallout 2 now is the atrocious amount of bugs so anyone wanting to play it now should jump onto no mutants allowed and download some mods.

Favourite Diablo Style RPG: Sacred 2
Up until last year I would have put Diablo 2 here. Sacred 2 essentially provided what Diablo 2 lacked:
• Better Story.
• More challenges.
• Better item crafting system and less punishing drop rate.
• Runs on both PC and console. All versions capable of online multiplayer and the console version capable of 2 player single console co-op.
It was also interesting to see an RPG that didn’t use a mana system and have an in depth skill chaining system.

Fallout 2. Interplay really topped itself, and it spawned an MMORPG, though half of it is just getting pked....Heroes of Might and Magic 3. Ultima 7 the black gate. Might and Magic 4-5.

Ishar and Ishar 2, both classic RPG games on the Amiga. They'd look poor today, but I remember them being enthralling and deep games to play at the time. Both excellent sandbox games long before magazine writers coined the phrase for GTA 3. You could literally do what you wanted, doors permitting and had vast worlds to explore.

Dungeons and Dragons - Warriors of the Eternal Sun on the Megadrive. The first D&D game that actually worked well, I'd had games on the Comm 64 and Amiga that didn't seem that great. But the console element made this a great game to play. Oddly I picked this up for £4 just reccently on ebay, and although it looks ancient, it is still offers a lot of fun.

Warsong on the Megadrive. (Well Genesis officially as it was a US only release I had imported.) The first tactical RPG style game I played. A style of game that has become a fave of mine leading through many games including Shining Force, Vandal Hearts and up until most recently Disgaea.

Secret of Mana on the SNES. Although I also enjoyed a Link to the Past, this game was my fave japanese style RPG for a long time, that was until I played.

Final Fantasy VII on the PS1. One of my fave games of all time for a long time, took up way too much of my time as a young man, probably only now beaten by the ammount of time I've played WoW. Although oddly I've never enjoyed any Final Fantasy game since this one, I do wonder if the style has passed me by. The walking around, suddenly in combat thing annoys me now. I like to see my enemies coming and make the call if I fight or not. The story was epic though.

Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowwind, and then Oblivion. The last two big RPG's I've played before WoW. Both where excellent games, and I enjoyed them although didn't compleate either. Just due to time restrictions at the time I was playing them, plus taking too much of an advantage of the 'sandbox' worlds they offered. I'd say I liked Morrowwind more out the two mind.

Since I've played WoW, I find I struggle with standard RPG's. Its odd I try them still, but the worlds seem empty, thus I really only try new MMO's now when I'm looking for a new RPG fix. Although as well as getting Warriors of the Eternal Sun, I got the Megadrive 360 title with both Shining Force games on.
So maybe I'm going backwards. I know I'd love to find a decent amiga emulator to run Ishar 2 again and in my dreams I'd have loved to see a remake. Sadly Silmarils are long deceased as a games company.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
but the worlds seem empty

yea i can agree to that, after playing the likes of Runescape and World of Warcraft single player RPGS do have a sence of lonliness to them. Heck maybe soon somebody will make an Oblivion/Morrowind type game that encorporates multiplayer, would be hard to do but if done well could revolutionise RPGs.

Secret of Mana,

Nuff'said

I would Have to say Dragon Age

Ribon Fox wrote:Secret of Mana,

Nuff'said

Your my hero. That game got me into gaming when I was a wee little.... 5? 6? year old.

I always got stuck as the chick, though

FF I, V, VI, VII, IX, X & XII (don't mind VIII but wouldn't rank it with the others I've mentioned).
Secret Of Mana
Breath of Fire 1 & 2
Chrono Trigger
Legend Of Zelda: The 2 NES ones, The Gameboy one and the Snes one. Also loved Ocarina Of Time and Majoras Mask.
Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 (could have gone so wrong, but it's awesome).
Dragon Quest V & VIII (the only two I've played, both recently, and I'm now obsessed with this series. Gonna be starting VI soon).
Morrowind & Oblivion (particularly Morrowind).

for me it's final fantasy...
FFVII , IX and X where for me the best rpg games i've ever played

I'm a huge fan of Final Fantasy VIII. I thought the characters were awesome. I did as much as I could in that game including sidequests... I even bought a PocketStation for it.

Knights of the Old Republic is up there as another favorite. Its one of the few RPGs that I've bothered to play more than once through.

KOTOR2.
Played through it 6 times with all of the class combinations and would still probably play it through again.

Black Corsair wrote:Neverwinter Nights series!!! for me, the greatest!

Ammon Jerro is a fething badass!!!

Ditto, though Neverwinter Nights 2 only became good because of Mask Of The Betrayer

My favorite RPG of all time is the original Wizardry, cuz it's the first RPG I ever played, on my Apple IIe

I just saw this thread. And, at first, I saw all the Fable, Oblivion, Fallout 3 love and thought "Oh my god, I'm too old." Then, I kept reading and saw the true RPG masters all mentioned

Diakon wrote:FF I, V, VI, VII, IX, X & XII (don't mind VIII but wouldn't rank it with the others I've mentioned).
Secret Of Mana
Breath of Fire 1 & 2
Chrono Trigger
Legend Of Zelda: The 2 NES ones, The Gameboy one and the Snes one. Also loved Ocarina Of Time and Majoras Mask.
Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 (could have gone so wrong, but it's awesome).
Dragon Quest V & VIII (the only two I've played, both recently, and I'm now obsessed with this series. Gonna be starting VI soon).
Morrowind & Oblivion (particularly Morrowind).

This hits up almost everything I was imagining! Although, I'd add Suikoden 1 and 2 to the list.

Also, have I missed it, or has no one mentioned Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars???


Edit: Also, whoever said Red Dead Redeption needs to be tied down to a chair and forced to play FFVI and Chrono Trigger back-to-back in one sitting. And then to spend the next 2 months of their life playing Morrowind non-stop. Because they clearly don't know what an RPG is

yournamehere wrote:Crono trigger...

FINALLY took me half way through the second page before somebody said it!

Greatest rpg imho.

I have to say:

Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - Still have this game and still playing it.
Morrowind - 'Nuff said
Oregon Trail - Only finished once and that was a combined effort from me, my brother, and my dad... The rest of the time everyone died from disease or drowning
Pokemon Blue, Red, and Gold/Yellow - Whatever the first 3 Pokemon games on the Gameboy (which ever gameboy they came out for that is)
Dragon Warrior Monsters - Gameboy Color


Currently Playing:
Final Fantasy Tactics - PSP and Liking this so fa
Disgaea - PSP Fun game
Dragon Quest VIII - PS2 and loving it!

It used to be Star Wars Galaxies before it went bottoms up. I had a awesome character that I was really happy with. A Mandalorian Commando with a pet slice hound and a Krayt ship. I've even made an entire narrative around him.

But since Galaxies is now a steaming pile of poop I'm lookinh forward to Star Wars The Old Republic. I'm not sure I'm very excited about the limits in clothing available per caste nor the limit to playable species that look pretty much human with a differant skin color and maybe something differant with their head. Yeah Galaxies was pretty much the same way but at least they had Mon Calamari, Bothans and Wookies to make up for it. Anyway still excited

1: Morrowind- that game still owns some of my soul.
2: oblivion- should have been better in every way to morrowind but missed on a couple of points. Still an amazing game.
3: fallout3 (can you tell I'm a bethesda junkie?)
4: ME 1&2
Secret of mana was also good.

IMO, FF VIII was way too easy. I lost interest before I beat it.

Wraithlordmechanic wrote:1: Morrowind- that game still owns some of my soul.
2: oblivion- should have been better in every way to morrowind but missed on a couple of points. Still an amazing game.
3: fallout3 (can you tell I'm a bethesda junkie?)
4: ME 1&2

Seems Bethesda and Bioware are proving to be 2 good RPG makers, just imagine the epicness if both of them worked together :O
Man that would be awesome!

I don't think Bioware would ever work with Bethesda. Bioware's games are -mostly- free of major bugs (ME2, I'm looking at your game-stopping issues), and their storylines are quite engaging. Meanwhile Bethesda has either never heard of playtesting, or just won't spend the time and money on it. So we get Bethesda games that just -love- to freeze up, crash to desktop, or cause the player to fall through the ground. And the storylines? I've heard Morrowind to be quite good, but Oblivion's storyline was quite clear and obvious in it's direction within the first hour of gameplay. And don't even get me started on Fallout 3's less-than-satisfying plot.

I'd rather Bioware keep their good rep

I'd rather have good ol' interplay back....

Thus all I follow these is Obsidian studio's.

Breath of Fire 3- First rpg ever played and one of the best IMHO
KOTOR1&2
Oblivion-never played Morrowind but after reading this might have to give it a shot
Space Rangers 2- You can be anything from a pirate to soldier to a simple trades guy...not true rpg but very good sandbox, upgrade ship invade planet game.
Heroes of Might and Magic 3? I want to say. Again not true rpg but the one where you could keep the same hero and upgrade him/her/them through entire game.

UbiSwanky2 wrote:
Oblivion-never played Morrowind but after reading this might have to give it a shot

Morrowind is hard to go back to. I absolutely LOVED it when it first came out. But, now, it's graphics are no longer up to par. And, the whole wide-open-sandbox gamestyle is no longer unique or innovative.

I often times go back and replay old school RPGs, but Morrowind doesn't really draw me in like it once did.

Baldurs Gate. The first one. I preferred it's asthetic over the second and the way you moved around the map. In the second you had to find out about a location before you could travel there whereas on the first you could travel the map square by square and go wherever.

Also Zelda Ocarina of Time deserves a mention.

whatwhat wrote:Also Zelda Ocarina of Time deserves a mention.

I've never thought of Ocarina of Time as an RPG. Your equipment grows and gets better with time but there's no leveling system. It's a lot like Super Metroid, both of which I'd call an adventure game, but not quite an RPG.

Grakmar wrote:

whatwhat wrote:Also Zelda Ocarina of Time deserves a mention.

I've never thought of Ocarina of Time as an RPG. Your equipment grows and gets better with time but there's no leveling system. It's a lot like Super Metroid, both of which I'd call an adventure game, but not quite an RPG.

Since when did leveling up become a requisite of an rpg?

whatwhat wrote:

Grakmar wrote:

whatwhat wrote:Also Zelda Ocarina of Time deserves a mention.

I've never thought of Ocarina of Time as an RPG. Your equipment grows and gets better with time but there's no leveling system. It's a lot like Super Metroid, both of which I'd call an adventure game, but not quite an RPG.

Since when did leveling up become a requisite of an rpg?

Well, its a tricky line. What exactly does a Zelda game have that makes it an RPG that Super Metroid, or a GTA game don't have?

Another vote for the Fallout Series and the Mass Effect games.

Grakmar wrote:

whatwhat wrote:

Grakmar wrote:

whatwhat wrote:Also Zelda Ocarina of Time deserves a mention.

I've never thought of Ocarina of Time as an RPG. Your equipment grows and gets better with time but there's no leveling system. It's a lot like Super Metroid, both of which I'd call an adventure game, but not quite an RPG.

Since when did leveling up become a requisite of an rpg?

Well, its a tricky line. What exactly does a Zelda game have that makes it an RPG that Super Metroid, or a GTA game don't have?

Yeh I see your point about Zelda. But I think RPG's are defined more by their non-linear storyline than a levelling system.

Forgot to mention... Might & Magic .. that whole series. Lots of fun, old school stuff Like, back when you needed a different DOS boot disk for each game...

And the original Neverwinter Nights on AOL. Back when it cost $6 a hour to be online.. my bill was like $400 one month.

Fallout 2 is by far my favourite RPG. Many fond memories with that game and I still play it. While FO3 was good, it doesn't come anywhere close to being as fun as 2. It's a shame Interplay couldn't complete 3. FF VII and Parasite Eve round out my top 3.

I still have to go with Knights of the Old Republic.

Mass Effect 1 was/is awesome. It's number two, but KotOR is number one on the strength of its story. ME1 got the mechanics right (like 95% perfect) but the story wasn't as personally engaging as KotOR. Neverwinter Nights is up there as well.

whatwhat wrote:

Yeh I see your point about Zelda. But I think RPG's are defined more by their non-linear storyline than a levelling system.

How is Ocarina of Time a non-linear storyline? It seemed like quite the one way street to me. More recent Zelda games might be different, I'm not sure, but I remember that one as being a "one run game".

metallifan wrote:

whatwhat wrote:

Yeh I see your point about Zelda. But I think RPG's are defined more by their non-linear storyline than a levelling system.

How is Ocarina of Time a non-linear storyline? It seemed like quite the one way street to me. More recent Zelda games might be different, I'm not sure, but I remember that one as being a "one run game".

I didn't say Ocarina of time was a non linear story line.

That was what you were discussing at the time, I was under the impression that you made that comment in context.

My bad

metallifan wrote:That was what you were discussing at the time, I was under the impression that you made that comment in context.

My bad

I acknowledged his point that Ocarina of Time wasn't a RPG. Then disputed the idea that RPG's are dependant on levelling systems. Sorry.

Super Mario RPG. Hey, what can I say? Geno is the man!

I remember playing this years ago.

My favorite RPG of all time has to be Skies of Arcadia. I played it on the Dreamcast, and then the Gamecube. It is one of the few RPGs I've played that I still plan on going back and re-visiting some day. I mean, cm'on, SKY Pirates!

The Mass Effect series comes in second. The little flaws in the games (thinks like the inventory management, etc) are overshadowed for me by the sheer win of the game's concept and setting. These games just "click" with me on a fundamental level. It almost feels like a Star Trek game to me, except it doesn't suck .

Following that up, the Fire Emblem series is another big favorite of mine. It is difficult to pick just one game, but I would have to go with Path of Radiance (the Gamecube version) as my top. That game just oozes polish, and was a great challenge.

whatwhat wrote:

Grakmar wrote:

whatwhat wrote:Also Zelda Ocarina of Time deserves a mention.

I've never thought of Ocarina of Time as an RPG. Your equipment grows and gets better with time but there's no leveling system. It's a lot like Super Metroid, both of which I'd call an adventure game, but not quite an RPG.

Since when did leveling up become a requisite of an rpg?

A role-playing game is essentially any game in which you play a role of any sort. Hence most story-based games are RPGs by the broadest definition.

'Levelling up' as a chief driver of gameplay and progression correlates to the classical PnP RPG like AD&D, so most people identify games with experience or skill 'points' as RPGs. There are plenty of PnPRPGs that don't have experience points or 'levels' but pretty much all of them involve a numerical system on which a character's skills are based.

It comes full circle when we appreciate that all computer programs are mathematically and logically driven. But then again, that gets you so far from the purer aspects of RL role-playing that it's almost irrelevant.

+1 for the Infinity Engine Baldurs Gate/IWD games. I enjoyed all of them for various reasons but preferred BG2 for its depth. Fallout 1/2 were also some of my best times as a kid - Black Isle did some great gameplay as far as I'm concerned. Honourable mentions go to the System Shock games (1/2), Pool Of Radiance and, of course, the Ultima Series.

Ruckdog wrote:My favorite RPG of all time has to be Skies of Arcadia. I played it on the Dreamcast, and then the Gamecube. It is one of the few RPGs I've played that I still plan on going back and re-visiting some day. I mean, cm'on, SKY Pirates!

I only played Skies of Arcadia Legends, but it is one of the few games I would honestly buy another game system to play again.

I am a big fan of the Mass Effect games, 1&2 are truly great games and part 2 builds on the choices you made in 1 brilliantly.

I also love the Fallout series, I have played Fallout 1, 3 and New Vegas but not played 2 as of yet.

I also like Dragon Age : Origins, and blasphemy upon blasphemy I played it on 360 and loved every second of it.

There are many more I could mention, such as The World Ends With You on the Nintendo DS and the Megaman Battle Network series on the GBA but I will refrain from just firing up a huge list.

Romancing SaGa 3. To frell with all these newfangled Xbox games!
They don't make rpgs like that game anymore which is a shame because that was a super cool system!

Dark Heresy.

Oh you mean video games?

Hrm.

I'm not sure. I really loved Neverwinter Nights, its various sequels, and its expansion.

Final Fantasy for the NES. That was the game that got me into RPGs. I remember sitting there w/ my dad, my Nintendo Power strategy guide and being there for hours. I couldn't wait to get out of school and Dad to get home from work to see what we were going to run into next. Ah, memories.

Now:

Fallout 3
FF7
FF10
Diablo 2 (DER!)

Today, I got Dragon Age Ultimate Ed. to go along w/ FO:NV. I'm going to need a year to myself. If that.

Morrowind you could play that for a month straight and still not even half way done with every thing

right now, i am diggin Age of Conan. Basically the wife and i have been looking for video games that we can enjoy together, and quite frankly WoW was just far too cartoony and too many little children for either of our tastes.

Other than that, i love the Fallout series, as well as TES games.

Ooohhh Check Malfred on the first page with 'Planescape: Torment'. Face it, no-one played it when it was out, all we know is it was the best game ever... I've read the story, does seem pretty good (A bit 'extra-dimensional' for my taste), and the parts of the dialogue i've seen are top notch but i just can't stand isometric games of any type... My favourite RPG was San Andreas, okay the RPG elements didnt work espeicially well but it was an ace game and very brave in it's divergence from the first two.

Been a while since i last posted here, but recently been playing Monster Hunter Freedom Unite again.

Now it may be another JRPG with no story watsoever unless you make gettin revenge on a beast part of the story. But this game has one of the largest array of weapons and armours iv probly seen.
The monsters themselves look amazing and in some cases totally annoying(Tigrex any1? lol).

The thing that makes this game awesome imo is the fact its not a generic hack and slash where you trade blows with your opponent, if you try attack at the wrong time you will probly get beat.
Even with all the high level gear a monster from the 3* quests can be trouble to deal with.

Was very excitedto hear that an Xbox 360 version was released, but sadly was only goin to be for Japan(very disappointed), That would encorporate an MMO like status.

If it wasn't for FO3, Morrowind.

Fallout 3. Simple as that.

Hmmm this is tough a question to answer...

Typical J/RPG (Console):
Breath of Fire 3 (First RPG I played outside of Final Fantasy for the console and it was awesome, loved turning into a dragon and kicking ass.)
Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX and Tactics (I have Tactics for the PS, Gameboy and soon PSP, it's just an awesome game.)
Fable I & II (haven't played III yet, but I played the first one and it hooked me.)

I'm sure there's more for the console I have, but I'm just not remembering what I have in my video game library at the moment.


PC Based RPG:
Diablo I & II (Still can't believe no one mentioned these yet.)
Fable: The Lost Chapters (Just amazing, the original game was great, and added content was wonderful.)
Oblivion (Being able to suck you into the world and make you feel apart of it.)
Neverwinter Nights 2 (Good D&D rules and story, although I hated the expansion the Mask of the Betrayer, just stupid mechanic they added was just worthless and tedious. Once I learned the console commands to turn it off, the game was much more enjoyable.)
The Witcher (Bought the special copy on Steam, it's just dark and the main character is a bad ass.)

PC MMO's:
Anarchy Online (The BEST MMO for Character development/customization bar-none, hands down.)
World of Warcraft (scoff if you must, but it's the top game since launch.)
Everquest 2 (had a great looking game, I just never had anyone to play it with so I lost interest.)
Guild Wars (for it's innovation in dungeon questing with groups and solo questing everything else without getting ganked.)

There were just to many to choose just 1, so I listed my favorites and the reasons for their selections in my list.

I think no one mentioned Diablo because its more of a hack-and-slash than an RPG.

The leveling and items are definitely major elements from RPGs, but there's just so little storyline in Diablo games for it to feel like you're actually role playing. But, it's a very fine line, so if you want to classify them as RPGs, I won't argue.

But your character in Diablo does level though and you get new abilties/spells at higher levels. And the talent tree system was revolutionary for video games.

I mean yeah the story in the first one was a bit lacking, as you were always going deeper and deeper into the Cathedral to kill more and more demons. But I think that was the story and you got little side quests and stuff.

It's true Diablo 1 wasn't as story engrossing as other RPG titles and Diablo 2 had alot more story driven events and location, but it wasn't that terrible. (well...for its time,heh)

But I can see where you could look at it as an action/adventure/rpg style game and I can't complain, I love hacking and BBQ'ing demons in dungeons!

I'm eagerly awaiting the 3rd one, so I can do the same in some nice graphics.

Yea I saw someone mention Final Fantasy10 earlier, and Ive got to add that to my list. I REALLY hate the way the art work has looked for years, but I easily got over it on 10. That was just hands down, a really good game.

Dragon Age
Neverwinter Nights 2
Knights of the Old Republic
FF: Tactics
FF: 6 (or 3... whatever)

There's a few that I would list, but they are too far removed from true RPGs to make my list, few examples:
Mass Effect
Diablo

Dragon Warrior
Final Fantasy 3(6? 3 for the SNES)
Chrono Trigger
Secret of Mana
Illusion of Gaia
FF VII
FF VIII
FF X
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
All those Baldur's Gate games

Yeah, that about does it for "favorites" though there's a whole lot more that I like.

Since I originally posted in this thread I've played Fallout 3 (incl. all the dlc except The Pitt), Fallout 1 and am fairly far through Fallout 2.
Just gotta add those three to my favourites list. Really enjoyed them.

Final Fantasy Tactics
Disgaea
Persona 4
Super Mario RPG
Lunar 2
Tales of the Abyss
Suikoden 2
Dragon Warrior
Phantom Brave

think that covers my top favs.

Melissia wrote:I'm not sure. I really loved Neverwinter Nights, its various sequels, and its expansion.

Hordes of the Underdark was AWESOME.

Shrike325 wrote:There's a few that I would list, but they are too far removed from true RPGs to make my list, few examples:
Mass Effect
Diablo

How is Mass Effect not an RPG?

Based on the number of times ive completed it. Diablo II.
Favourite RPG with the same characters : Baldurs gate 1/2 or champions/death knights/dark queen of krynn.
Favourite RPG that i wrote fan fiction about my game: Masters of Orion 2.

Diablo 2...3 looks amazing from what I've seen so far

No contest for me, that game was groundbreaking.

ChaosGalvatron wrote: Favourite RPG that i wrote fan fiction about my game: Masters of Orion 2.

I think Masters of Orion is an absolutely great strategy game, but no way in the world could I actually call it an RPG.

MOO2 is genius game design, but definitely not an RPG in my opinion. My favorite RPGs come from childhood. Final Fantasy 1, The Magic Candle 1 and 2, Ultima IV and V. Newest RPG I have tried and liked was Morrowind, which was very cool for its non-linear plot (reason I liked Magic Candle) and 'do whatever you want' kind of approach.