The Thunderhawk and Temple shots particularly worthy of note.
Most of the faces still look like old geezers, but seeing as marines can be 300 years+ old and they are motion capturing the face of the voice talent (mostly old geezers) isn't necessarily a bad thing.
acidchalk wrote:It looks great, but i still can't get over the geezers.
Space Marines are superhuman which gives them strength and allows them to live for a very long time, but this doesn't necessarily mean that they never age.
Fighting for months or even years without respite against implacable foes would do a number on you.
Marines are Immortal, but Eternal Youth doesn't come with the deal.
Yeah. Getting shot and nerve-gassed can screw up your complexion bigtime, even if you exfoliate on a regular basis. And have superhuman healing powers, of course.
I really hope they replace the faces at the last minute with younger looking guys.
Yes, I get that space marines live hundreds of years. However, I have two problems. First, when I paint these little figures, I have yet to see one that looks like grandpa. All of them look young and in their prime. Maybe GW is signaling a new direction? "Grandpas in space!"...
Second, one of the primary reasons people look old is that their bodies start wearing out. Skin isn't as taught, muscles loosen, etc. Basically, the body starts breaking down. This goes completely against the idea of a basically immortal being who will only know death through violence. Their body regenerates itself. This goes to a cellular level. Which means the skin will not change in this way.
In short, there is absolutely no reason for them to look old and, instead, they should keep the exact look as they had when they were first "converted".
I'm going to watch it for sure... but I have to say the quality is a little sub-par for me overall. Models, lighting and some animation in particular. Texturing looks good though.
In the end, even if it's not pixar/iln stuff, it could still be a kick ass flick! Here's hopin'!
I'm really impressed with the cast. Lot of revered hollywood names in there. I was expecting a bunch of C-List nobody's like most sci-fi movies have, but John Hurt??
Most marines die young (comparatively). Those that don't inevitably rise to higher ranks, and become less likely to die, either because they're risked less in full blown assaults, or gain retinues and protective wargear to protect them. I'm also guessing moisturising and application of anti-ageing creams are not high on a marine's priorities list. (unless they're Blood Angels).
I'm liking the look of this movie less and less. The old codgers remind me of the CGI from Diablo 2. The problem with the faces is that they are often the only chance to give a suggestion of the health of a space marine. If you make the face old and skinny then it gives the impression of the body being old and skinny. While I agree that characters that have served for 100s of years should look old, the film makers are coming up against a problem that many 2D artists face and that is the scale and proportions of the miniatures. It would work if the 40K novels informed the art which then informed the miniatures but with 40k the miniatures inform everything else. So not only are the CGI artists having to deal with the 'uncanny valley' of trying to do CGI that doesn't quite look real, they have to contend with the sculpted miniatures that many of us have ingrained in our minds. Further to this they have to deal with the space marine proportions from the fluff that makes them seven foot tall supermen. The effect of all this means that they don't hit any one reference point bang on. This might be a strength to some but it leaves me cold.
One of the great things about Space Marines is that when I model and paint the miniatures of the personalities, or read about characters like Ragnar or Talos I should want to be that character, I should come away from the movie thinking that the main characters are cool and I would like to be one of them. Extending this to the tabletop I should want to be the leader of the force or maybe a unit. Looking at the Captain and Chaplain in the stills from the movie, I don't want to be either of them. Which I think is a mistake on the part of the film makers. When I look at the CGI scenes from the start of Dawn of War 2, I want to be those space marines or the Eldar even, and I'm just not getting that vibe from this movie.
Looks good although I still think some of the faces don't look right... I think they have worked too much on the faces and they look a bit... well... dead... they would look great as nurgle marines faces.. but I prefer the look from the Dawn of War 2 intro... that looked great...
Gargskull wrote:Rar, they actually showed them getting shot to gak, and right after bigging them up as the almighty space marines etc, wasn't expecting that.
It's looking good actually, I might get a copy if the story's decent, do we know who they're facing?
well, what do we know?
Trailer had Impierial Fists heads on spikes
Synopsis said that an Impierial Shrine was attacked
oni wrote:There were supposed to be extended scenes shown at Games Day UK last Saturday. Did anyone happen to see this or get video of it?
Saw it, no one was allowed to video it. It was an upcoming trailer you got to see. Didn't show much of the story just a lot of shooting and shouting ultramarines.
Talked with the producer after and he said it's out in two moths and there will "probably" be a blue ray release too.
Im feeling rather negative about the whole movie myself. I do hope they pull it off but if its anything like that trailer, I doubt ill watch the whole thing.
Personally I would have taken the scale of the 3D marines and changed it a bit. Even to the point of putting far more detail into the suits, making them more complex. It is the year 40k afterall. Think of the detail for the 3D Transformers or Iron Mans suit moving about to fit onto his body.
GW seems to scared to push the movie into new realms which is a pity and their downfall. Everything from the modeling, textures and animation looks very plain and cheap.
whatwhat wrote:Saw it, no one was allowed to video it. It was an upcoming trailer you got to see.
I don't think they quite understand the concept of a trailer. First they release a trailer that fails to advertise any reason to watch the movie (not even mentioning that Dan Abnett wrote it), then they create a new trailer and don't let anyone see it.
whatwhat wrote:Saw it, no one was allowed to video it. It was an upcoming trailer you got to see.
I don't think they quite understand the concept of a trailer. First they release a trailer that fails to advertise any reason to watch the movie (not even mentioning that Dan Abnett wrote it), then they create a new trailer and don't let anyone see it.
Erm, it was a preview of an upcoming trailer. I'm sure you will get to see it at some point.
FM Ninja 048 wrote:Squad redus shirtaus, ASSEMBLE!
BROTHER DECIUS - a newly-promoted battle brother.
BROTHER MAXILLIUS - a newly-promoted battle brother.
BROTHER HYPAX - a newly-promoted battle brother.
BROTHER JUNOR - a newly-promoted battle brother.
BROTHER REMULUS - a newly-promoted battle brother.
BROTHER BOREAS - a newly-promoted battle brother.
BROTHER LYCOS - a newly-promoted battle brother.
yeah, from watching that 1 and a half minute trailer (where the first minute is just talk and smoke practically with no action), i think you see what happens to all those newly promoted battle brothers. i hope they have the apothecary nearby.
Or, maybe (it has happened in the videogame industry before) the trailer was put out in a hurry and doesn't represent the final quality of the movie.
It could (not saying it will be) still be re-rendered to a final, "higher" quality. Even if it's not... most people do not realize that this is not GW's work, it's an external company. Not a big one, at that. They're giving this studio an opportunity to produce work that many here have wanted for years, complete with gore and whatnot.
Now people are comparing it to beast wars. Easy. Don't like it, don't watch it. This does not have the same budget as the transformers movie. The group possibly had to cut down costs to make it to a final release.
Finally, the old marines. Some chapters, not all, maintain senior members that act as advisors (which it seems, the old man was doing) as they've far from their best in the physical sense. The whole concept of "marines being immortal" is just stupid - they aren't primarchs - and completely undermines one of the ideas behind the Blood Angels, seeing as their more artistic side stems from them being "the longest lived Marines".
I take what I see in the Rulebooks and Codecii as fluff, but I'll clench my jaw at the thought of what Dan Abnett wrote being hailed as that. I think of Ibram Gaunt the same way I think of Ciaphas Cain, nice stories but that's that.
I know the old fluff had marines aging incredibly slowly. A bio on I believe one of the Ultramarines characters talking about him being one of the oldest living (non-dreadnought) marines around. A guy so ancient, his hair had actually Started to turn grey.
Aduro wrote:I know the old fluff had marines aging incredibly slowly. A bio on I believe one of the Ultramarines characters talking about him being one of the oldest living (non-dreadnought) marines around. A guy so ancient, his hair had actually Started to turn grey.
the title for "oldest marine not in a dreadnought" is shared(depending on source) between Dante and Logan Grimnar.
Dante's age varies between 700 and 1k. Logan is hovering around 1k.
the oldest living marine is Bjorn the Fell handed. 10k+some odd years.
I haven't read the last 'dex, but Dante was always said to be around 1100 years old, and that being extremely long for a Space Marine (though, on the other side, they didn't state if it was due to him wanting to lead from the front).
(was going to post a lot of stuff about the Armageddon wars, but found this in the Lexicanum instead - "Dante is the oldest living Space Marine in the Imperium").
I think the geezer was a nod to the fact that Space Marines do grow old, and reach a point where they are forced to retire to handle the scout training/advising younger Captains.
Well, Dante is still a capable Warrior and fights often.
the only thing i have seen "retire" a Space Marine is an injury that requires such extensive and complicated Augmatics that he can't function in a battlefield role anymore, and as such gets regulated to training aspirants or manning a position in the chapter fleet. essentially handicapped.
Though the precise source eludes me (4th or 5th Space Marine Codex), I think it was clearly stated that some of the non-combative personnel were in fact Space Marines who, due to age and/or injury were forced into "retirement".
But this is something that's been largely discussed, I guess we'll have to wait for the movie to come out :p
I'm not counting the days 'till the release but ever since Final Liberation I've been waiting for some sort of movie to come out. At least we can't complain about the "grimdark" 40k, judging by the violence in the trailer.
I have to say the marine's apparent age is far to old in many cases. They don't look like they can fight for anything other than the tapioca pudding. Their sullen cheeks and gauntish appearance is just too much, they look weak. I can accept winkles and gray hair and all that for them, but this is just beyond what it should be.
I managed to pick out a decent amount of the storyline from the trailer, well, along with wasting far too many hours reading tvtropes.
Iron Warriors attack an Imperial Fists Shrine World, massacring its defenders except for a single Imperial Fist.
The Ultramarines arrive as reinforcements to help, join up with the survivor.
Butt kicking and getting their butts kicked proceeds to occur.
There's assorted paranoia about characters becoming 'tainted by chaos'
Then, to start wild mass guessing, I wouldn't be surprised results in suspicion being made on the surviving Fist (who's loyal all along and dies proving it.)
Then I'm pretty much guessing that the storyline goes roughly in the same direction as Dawn of War 1 with Isador and Gabrial expys.
looks like that old Battle Tech cartoon, when they went 3d!! or a crap star wars cartoon!!! lets just see how this goes, i really hope it takes in the alian races and chaos, i dare say that this is the start of a verry long franchise(knowing games workshop) also...lets thank the gods....Michael Bay had nothing to do with this!!
Aduro wrote:I know the old fluff had marines aging incredibly slowly. A bio on I believe one of the Ultramarines characters talking about him being one of the oldest living (non-dreadnought) marines around. A guy so ancient, his hair had actually Started to turn grey.
the title for "oldest marine not in a dreadnought" is shared(depending on source) between Dante and Logan Grimnar.
Dante's age varies between 700 and 1k. Logan is hovering around 1k.
the oldest living marine is Bjorn the Fell handed. 10k+some odd years.
The oldest living "loyalist" marine the others went in the 13th company are still alive and kicking chaos butt.
Aduro wrote:I know the old fluff had marines aging incredibly slowly. A bio on I believe one of the Ultramarines characters talking about him being one of the oldest living (non-dreadnought) marines around. A guy so ancient, his hair had actually Started to turn grey.
the title for "oldest marine not in a dreadnought" is shared(depending on source) between Dante and Logan Grimnar.
Dante's age varies between 700 and 1k. Logan is hovering around 1k.
the oldest living marine is Bjorn the Fell handed. 10k+some odd years.
The oldest living "loyalist" marine the others went in the 13th company are still alive and kicking chaos butt.
you are indeed correct. although they are probably about Bjorns age. maybe some are older
Aduro wrote:I know the old fluff had marines aging incredibly slowly. A bio on I believe one of the Ultramarines characters talking about him being one of the oldest living (non-dreadnought) marines around. A guy so ancient, his hair had actually Started to turn grey.
the title for "oldest marine not in a dreadnought" is shared(depending on source) between Dante and Logan Grimnar.
Dante's age varies between 700 and 1k. Logan is hovering around 1k.
the oldest living marine is Bjorn the Fell handed. 10k+some odd years.
The oldest living "loyalist" marine the others went in the 13th company are still alive and kicking chaos butt.
you are indeed correct. although they are probably about Bjorns age. maybe some are older
It's also stated in the BA Codex that some of the chapter's Furioso Dreadnoughts are about this same age, having fought at the time of the Horus Heresy and all. None of them are named or specifically called out though.
Grey Templar wrote:
you are indeed correct. although they are probably about Bjorns age. maybe some are older
The problem with the 13th Co. is that they live in the warp where time flows differently. In Soul Hunter it talks about how decades have passed for the Nightlords where hundreds of years have passed for the Imperium. The only reason I can see for the ancient looking marines is if they were trying to map the faces of the actors as John Hurt and Terence Stamp both have rather sunken faces. If they had made the characters look more like the actors as they did in the Beowulf movie it would have been far more acceptable as I admire both actors. John Hurt was the original victim of the chest burster in Alien so he could be seen as the biological father of the Tyranid race ;-) and Terence Stamp was Zod in Superman 2 as well as being a right rascal in his younger years.
I have to admit - I'm a fan of animated movies (Shrek, Wall-E, How to Tame Your Dragon, Up, etc). In comparison, the movie trailer seems like a cut-scene from a video game. It has good enough animation to be a video game cutscene, but hardly impresses itself as a movie trailer. The animation isn't *that* good, the limited voice acting that I got to hear was disconnected from the character, and I'm overall less than impressed that this is going to be a feature film.
I've only seen the trailer but don't we see only one guy, the main character I assume, so he can be a grizzled veteran a few centuries old while his company is more of the younger marines we're used to. Mind you I'm not thrilled with some of what we've seen, I was far more captivated and thrilled with the Space Marine game trailer than this but hey I'm willing to give it a shot.
I think, after seeing the 'real' trailer that many people are being too negative about it.
I really do think now in the grand scheme of things, the films going to end up being thoroughly well, mediocre.
It'll get made, it'll make an adequate number of sales, entirely from 40k fans then sit in DVD collections and quite possibly be forgotten about.
And, to be honest, I think that's what GW is looking for, well, except the forgotten about part. The producer talked a lot about how GW wanted to 'protect their IP' and them 'refusing every major studio for years and years' and how they vowed never to ever have such a thing as a 'space marine lunchbox' or the like.
I guess if you're looking for an equivalence, think of it more as the Advent Children film as opposed to Spirits Within. It'll become fairly popular within the fan community but almost noone outside of it will buy it or even know it exists.
Compel wrote:I guess if you're looking for an equivalence, think of it more as the Advent Children film as opposed to Spirits Within. It'll become fairly popular within the fan community but almost noone outside of it will buy it or even know it exists.
And? Why is that a problem. Isn't that the same as most of the 40k novels out there, some of which are fantastic.
Contrary to what you just said the general opinion at gamesday after seeing the trailer I thought was positive, it's only when you log onto dakkadakka.com that you start hearing how the film looks crap.
Give it a chance at least. If you expect to be disappointed, you probably will be.
BrotherStynier wrote:Maybe its just me but after watching the trailers and looking at the screen caps. I thought "Oh Hey its Star Craft 1"
I probably wont watch this, or I'll be drinking when I do. One things for sure they aren't getting my money for it.
I will buy the beer...
You got yourself a deal, now I'll go find someone who will buy this "film". Hey maybe I'll get something a little harder than beer for the thing as well, we can turn watching this into a drinking game.
The Story may be fine because Dan Abnett wrote it, but I won't bet on it cause it could be something very simple he threw together in order to try and wrangle more people into it. I thought the Ultras were one of the things Graham McNeil was supposed to write really good.
You got yourself a deal, now I'll go find someone who will buy this "film". Hey maybe I'll get something a little harder than beer for the thing as well, we can turn watching this into a drinking game.
The Story may be fine because Dan Abnett wrote it, but I won't bet on it cause it could be something very simple he threw together in order to try and wrangle more people into it. I thought the Ultras were one of the things Graham McNeil was supposed to write really good.
Take a shot of liqueur every time the word Emperor is said,
Chug a beer every time the Ultramaires refer to themselves as the finest.
And a Jägerbomb evertime they say Chaos Scum.
Seriously? You're judging a whole movie based on a trailer?
I guess I'm one of the few who learned not to try and figure a movie from mashed-up trailer. Never would've gotten to see Dark City, or the Watchmen, or Lock Stock...
Now me not being good with names, I can't remember the Marines name . . .
But in the first 3 Horus Heresy books there is that really old Son of Horus who is one of the remaining few from Terra. He definitely is described as if he is in need of a pipe, a pair of slippers, and a zimmer frame . . . with Twin-Linked Bolters ofcourse =p
Now, my views on the film. I'm not liking the look of the profile pictures (as seen on the bottom left of the homepage) they just look like bad quality marines. But I reckon that this could still have a good story line, and still be a good film. I just don't expect a lot from the animation.
Destrado wrote:Seriously? You're judging a whole movie based on a trailer?
I guess I'm one of the few who learned not to try and figure a movie from mashed-up trailer. Never would've gotten to see Dark City, or the Watchmen, or Lock Stock...
Agreed. Go back about 2 or so months and bring up the Dark Eldar, right before we KNEW they were coming out. Most people bitched and said how lame the Dark Eldar are, and "they dont need a revamp! They need to go the way of the Squats!"
So now fast forward to the Dark Eldar release thread. Go ahead......Ill wait while you read it..... Oh whats that? Everyone has their foots in their mouths? Weird.
Ill wait for the movie. I was also a bit let down at the animations of the trailer, but Im not going to say the movie sucks. Im still, and have been since the start, thinking itll be a good movie. Stop being babies and whining so damn much, you guys sound like my niece FFS
Better? A bad, Cheesy, 40k movie is better then no.
Its just what gets me is the trailer for Space Marine the Game, has a more HD looking Marine then the movie does... But what ever they used for that game trailer they should have used in the movie.
it's because financing 4-5 minutes of high quality CGI for a computer game is cheaper then maintaining that level of consistancy over a 70 minute film.
things like this can only get better with time.
our duty is to make sure that GW gets enough positive response from this to make another one. which doubtless will have slightly better graphics.
and honestly, people need to watch films for the story and plot NOT how much detail they can cram onto their HD TVs.
do you enjoy seeing Brad Pit's Pimples? lets level out the HD curve and watch movies for the content of the story.
Well when you go to see a war movie, what do you think of? Graphics, is the blood and guts going to be great and realistic looking or is it going to be cheap and noticeably fake. I like my war movies about bang bang boom and oh damn, you see that?. not Joanie Loves Chachi.
With cgi movies looking batter then that made several years ago, I pray that that one guy was right about releasing a poorer the actual movie quality trailer.
you are 100% right about there needs a plot, pointless shooting and guts is cool only so far.
KingCracker wrote:
So now fast forward to the Dark Eldar release thread. Go ahead......Ill wait while you read it..... Oh whats that? Everyone has their foots in their mouths? Weird.
Ill wait for the movie. I was also a bit let down at the animations of the trailer, but Im not going to say the movie sucks. Im still, and have been since the start, thinking itll be a good movie. Stop being babies and whining so damn much, you guys sound like my niece FFS
People nowadays expect every CGI movie to be Avatar or Advent Children. Like every FPS has to be a Crysis or a Halo.
Not that I mind some eye-candy, but there is some value to lower budget productions too. Best example - the Transformer movies. Great CGI, crap story. If they'd spent less time obsessing over how many nuts and bolts you can see when they shape-change, and focussed on creating a story, then maybe we'd have a movie that marked a generation instead of some 30 odd minutes of fighting over two movies. I'll save my criticism for when I see it, and then we can discuss it properly.
Okay - I am a newbie here, but here are my two cents,
I was kind of taken aback by the animation quality - clearly I will now be expecting a "Machinma" (SP?) style rather than Appleseed quality.
That said, I do plan to support the film. I have read good and bad 40k books and comics. Not all the comics had art I loved, but story counts for quite a bit.
It is my hope the quality is still good enough to give a decent 40k intro to some of my sci-fi minded friends to at least interest them in the books, if not (hopefully) the game or models themselves.
If the animation quality stays the same, then hopefully the cost of production will be cheep enough to make many more movies - would love a guard and Tau film.
I really enjoy the 40k (& 30k) universe enough not to through the baby out with the bath water.
BTW - does anyone know the release date, and the cost of the special edition of the film?
whatwhat wrote:
Contrary to what you just said the general opinion at gamesday after seeing the trailer I thought was positive, it's only when you log onto dakkadakka.com that you start hearing how the film looks crap.
Give it a chance at least. If you expect to be disappointed, you probably will be.
I don't think this looks too bad, but I really don't like the marines' helmets eyes. I have always seen and heard of space marines having lit up lenses in the helmet, due to internal displays for the marines, but with these eyepieces I wouldn't be surprised if they were all stumbling around asking who turned off the lights. Just my thoughts
I tried saying the same thing at the presentation to the producer, but went a different tact.
I tried to talk about how it makes them look a big lifeless and surely some lights would allow greater emotion etc. I then added, "or is that just going to be something they have added in post production or whatever?"
He basically blew me off bluntly and directly. "Well everything was checked with and authorised from Games Workshop and they didn't have a problem with it and there's always more things we could have added but eventually we had to say stop."
To be honest, I don't even think he could be bothered listening to my question and just gave the standard 'bleep you you dumb fanboy' answer when I was asking about more of a film making question than anything to do with GW itself....
Oh well, the film looks fine, not world shattering though, that's all what I meant by earlier. I know my personal hopes were for a LOTR style explosion in popularity but yeah....
As I said, it looks like it'll end up being mediocre. And to paraphrase Dilbert, "mediocrity isn't bad."
And at least I got a free t shirt and 2 badges out of it.
Teaser comes out - most people react negatively, core group of GW defenders start yelling at people they are not allowed to have an opinion yet because its just a teaser, not a trailer.
Trailer comes out - most people react negatively, core group of GW defenders start yelling at people they are not allowed to have an opinion yet because its just a trailer, not the movie.
No the movie is not out yet, final judgement is not rendered. But for god sakes stop telling people that they can't form an opinion based on what is released already. The whole point of teasers and trailers is to show great material and get people interested in the movie. If the teasers and trailers are receiving mostly negative reception, then it does not bode well, be reasonable about that much at least. No one wants the movie to fail who frequents these forums, no need to miindlessly defend it like it's in hostile territory.
Compel wrote:As I said, it looks like it'll end up being mediocre. And to paraphrase Dilbert, "mediocrity isn't bad."
Mediocrity is bad. Mediocrity means your product doesn't succeed, but also doesn't fail hard enough to force you to change your ways. If people tell GW that a Warhammer 40,000 movie will sell regardless of quality, GW isn't going to waste money on quality that doesn't translate to higher returns, are they?
It's the cumulative total of threads on the movie so far, there are several instances of people telling other people that they aren't allowed to form impressions of the movie yet, as if having a personal opinion needed permission lol.
There have been major and minor instances of this througout the Dakka discussion. My only point is that they put out material from the movie, teaser, trailer, whatever, so that we could begin assesment, don't blame people for doing exactly that, whether they like it or not. Get's my goat.
I hope that clarifies my intent, no shot at any one individual, just my opinion on what is imo an incorrect line of reasoning.
I'm not an hardcore GW fan but I think it's idiotic to judge a book by it's cover.
I don't think I said it was going to be a good movie, and I certainly didn't say it was forbidden for people to have an opinion, but for such an outburst of "this sucks" regarding a movie that's one hour (or more) long based on 1 minute of trailer... I was just advocating a fairer review based on the final product. But I guess the internet isn't fair
Destrado wrote:I'm not an hardcore GW fan but I think it's idiotic to judge a book by it's cover.
except when it's a picture book and the cover that's supposed to be an example of the best art inside and isn't all that good. as majortom said, trailers are SUPPOSED to stir up enthusiasm. if they're doing the opposite, you've got a problem. the trailer normally show off the best animation in the movie; if that's the best, i'll be redboxing that release and no more. (for all you non-US dakkites, the red box is a vending machine that rents dvds outside major stores for a single US dollar per day)
Destrado wrote:I'm not an hardcore GW fan but I think it's idiotic to judge a book by it's cover.
I don't think I said it was going to be a good movie, and I certainly didn't say it was forbidden for people to have an opinion, but for such an outburst of "this sucks" regarding a movie that's one hour (or more) long based on 1 minute of trailer... I was just advocating a fairer review based on the final product. But I guess the internet isn't fair
Absolutely, final judgement for the movie should be reserved for release! Based on the trailers/previews though, the art style and rendering quality are not where I would have hoped, nor do I think they presented compelling material story or visual wise as of yet. It doesn't mean it won't be there in the final product, but for me, the trailers were put together poorly and could have been far more exciting.
I will still def be watching it, and hopefully, the story will be there and I will be engaged enough to not nit-pic as I have with the trailers! Seriously, it could be a really great property for them, and a really engaging way to get new fans into the fold, I'm hoping for the best. Again, my rant was not directed at you in particular, but people on both sides regarding the movie yelling at each other that either they cant think it sucks because they don't understand what a trailer is, or people who say the whole movie sucks based on the trailer without seeing the movie. Equally wrong in my book!
A highly experienced voiceover artist, heard regularly on film trailers and featured in over 2500 cartoons, Gary Martin is most familiar as the Sugar Puffs Honey Monster.
Compel wrote:I tried saying the same thing at the presentation to the producer, but went a different tact.
I tried to talk about how it makes them look a big lifeless and surely some lights would allow greater emotion etc. I then added, "or is that just going to be something they have added in post production or whatever?"
He basically blew me off bluntly and directly. "Well everything was checked with and authorised from Games Workshop and they didn't have a problem with it and there's always more things we could have added but eventually we had to say stop."
A highly experienced voiceover artist, heard regularly on film trailers and featured in over 2500 cartoons, Gary Martin is most familiar as the Sugar Puffs Honey Monster.
Absolutely, final judgement for the movie should be reserved for release! Based on the trailers/previews though, the art style and rendering quality are not where I would have hoped, nor do I think they presented compelling material story or visual wise as of yet. It doesn't mean it won't be there in the final product, but for me, the trailers were put together poorly and could have been far more exciting.
I will still def be watching it, and hopefully, the story will be there and I will be engaged enough to not nit-pic as I have with the trailers! Seriously, it could be a really great property for them, and a really engaging way to get new fans into the fold, I'm hoping for the best. Again, my rant was not directed at you in particular, but people on both sides regarding the movie yelling at each other that either they cant think it sucks because they don't understand what a trailer is, or people who say the whole movie sucks based on the trailer without seeing the movie. Equally wrong in my book!
I know it wasn't directed at me in particular, I just couldn't help myself Also, warboss before you was partially right. I think it's pretty much confirmed that the CGI won't change... Too bad. I know and understand that the trailer can lead to bad impressions (just as the teaser did before), but hey, it's a 40k movie made by a small company, if we don't support it (and the company that did it) I doubt they'll allow another movie to come out so soon. They probably looked at their budget and decided that weren't going to blow it all on the CGI, instead spending on the voice actors (and Dan Abnett, whom I abhor) so that they could release a decent piece.
At least that's what I hope - I don't want another D&D movie
If anyone's interested, it looks like the movie's going to be released on the 29th of November. They're selling pre-orders for the special edition for 26 pounds/40 USD.
AlexHolker wrote:If anyone's interested, it looks like the movie's going to be released on the 29th of November. They're selling pre-orders for the special edition for 26 pounds/40 USD.
A bit pricey. Most likely will be a buy, but still thats brutal.
AlexHolker wrote:If anyone's interested, it looks like the movie's going to be released on the 29th of November. They're selling pre-orders for the special edition for 26 pounds/40 USD.
$40 for a CG movie that looks like it was made 10 years ago? Nah, that's OK.
1) What's with the smoke effects?It doesn't fit with the imagery of 40k (or it's spin offs: Dawn of War, Battle Fleet Gothic, Epic, Space Hulk, Dark Heresy, etc.)
2) Why do all the marines look like geriatrics? I don't care if they need to match the voice talents.. get younger voice talents. GW background has changed over the years, but as of now, Space Marines reach maturity and stop aging. The only signs of "aging" are the inevitable scars they acquire over years of combat. Reference: Every Black Library book that's been published in the past 3 years.
3) Why are the Ultramarines the best of all Space Marines? Need I say more?
4) Why are the Space Marines, aka. humanities greatest warriors, aka the HEROES of the story, being blown apart? I mean honestly... Who promotes their movie by claiming the heroes are incredible and then only showing them get blown apart? I don't care who the bad guys are. You don't claim to be the best and then display getting shot down in your trailer.
The Teaser:
1) What's with the cliche' paranormal video effects? That type of jumpy flashing shock type cinematography has come to represent supernatural or paranormal movies/shows.
Is this where we hope if they make enough money they'll try it again with better quality? What if we're sending the wrong message and GW figures "Hey, we can make movies with decade old technology and still get paid!"
That being said, I'm one of the folks that might be sending GW the wrong message.
Is this where we hope if they make enough money they'll try it again with better quality? What if we're sending the wrong message and GW figures "Hey, we can make movies with decade old technology and still get paid!"
That being said, I'm one of the folks that might be sending GW the wrong message.
they wouldn't do that
it's not like GW is totally insensitive to those who suppo....
CHAOS!!!!
Also, warboss before you was partially right. I think it's pretty much confirmed that the CGI won't change... Too bad. I know and understand that the trailer can lead to bad impressions (just as the teaser did before), but hey, it's a 
