So... who here has played it? If you don't know what it is, League of Legends is a free-to-play game made by the guys who invented DotA. (Defense of the Ancients, only the single most popular Warcraft 3 mod ever made, still played years after the game's release) Basically there's 2 teams of 3 or 5 heroes each, and the goal is to destroy the enemy base. It kinda plays out like a top down version of WoW's pvp at its best, mixed with an RTS. There are a lot of heroes to choose from with a lot of variation between them; no 2 are exactly the same.
Now it's completely free to play. However there's a weekly rotation of which heroes are free to use, so if you have a favorite and they're out of rotation you're out of luck. You can permanently unlock heroes either by buying Riot Points for actual cash, or with Influence Points which you earn by playing. Don't let that put you off though, because there are a lot of good heroes and a lot of the heroes are cheap to unlock. (for example, one of my favorites only costs 450 IP, which you'll earn after like 4 or 5 games. Pretty painless and so far I haven't shelled out a dime)
You can also unlock alternate costumes for your heroes, runes to boost stats (extremely cheap IP-wise, so still not a cash grab by any stretch) boosts to XP and IP gain (only through cash) and so on. Overall I think it's a pretty cool system, and they don't unbalance the game by making all the 'good gak' cost money. Really fun game, a lot of character in the heroes too. I highly recommend you all go check it out.
EDIT: Oh, herp derp... I suppose I should put up my referral link since I brought it up already.
You know you want to... (No real difference for you by using the referral link, it just nets me free stuff if you actually play the game for a while. And I really didn't start the thread just for this, I just think it's a great find! )
I play every now and then. It's a really good game. It's everything I wanted DotA to be. The fact that I can play completely free is a bonus as well.
They are doing the free to play thing better than most. I'm fully willing to accept a game that allows me to purchase additional content or new characters or something, but games that are filled with trying to get me to purchase scrolls to increase grinding speed, potions that I NEED, etc just make me angry.
Yeah that's why I generally avoid free-to-play games... This one's awesome though. I have to catch my bus downtown for college soon; guess what I'm doing until then?
That explains why I could use anyone then, eh? Of course, it figures that my favorite is the full 6300 IP... >.< (the void sorcerer, I forget his name)
He's my favorite so far, although Yi is pretty nasty once he gets going... With Wuju Style activated he rips through turrets like paper, and his first ability makes clearing entire waves of minions simple and fast. If he were slightly better at actual pvp I would consider him almost OP, but he has no way to stop the enemy from fleeing without outside help. In fact, I generally have trouble with pvp... I don't know what it is I'm doing wrong, maybe itemization? All I know is if it's me vs another champion, typically it's me who dies. >.<
I play League. I bounce between Twitch, Akali, and Yi right now. Twitch is fun but he's a glass cannon. Tons of damage but if somebody gets the jump on you odds are your dead. As for improving your survivability with the pvp part who are you using so we can try and give some tips?
Well I think as far as Yi goes lifesteal really becomes his survivability. I might as well throw out the ones I play as well. Usually I end up playing the support as if I'm a physical non ranged DPS I usually go really really bad, with the exception of Mordekaiser which is alright
Ones I play as at the moment are Janna, Sona and Ashe although I'll ocassionally play Teemo, Miss Fortune or Evelyn. But I change champs really often.
Sona was a bit of fun before she came on rotation (I brought her about 30mins after she came out). Only champ I've played that could actually scare some players with her taunt as she just plays a few angry notes. Generally they won't care at all for other champs, but that early in her release the taunt could be confused with an attack.
Except for the fact that it's made by the people who made DotA, now free of the limits of Warcraft 3's engines, and they've made it even better? (according to everyone I've ever asked who's played both games)
As far as who I use, I think I'll be maining as Yi until someone else I like goes on rotation or I somehow manage to get enough points for Malzahar.
Soladrin wrote:Not interested. cause It can't replace actual Dota :3
It's made by the developers of DotA and it's pretty much the same game with more heroes, some newer maps, and a slight bit of persistent leveling to it.
I'm not too bad with Pantheon either, now that I've played him a couple times. Too bad I suck with Nunu because a capped Nunu will rock the boat. Seriously, he's unstoppable... @_@ Only solution is to win before he gets that far.
Been having fun with Zilean lately as well. The apparent change to Pantheon's ult is pretty nice as well (his ult is he leaps into the air then lands at a target location on the map dealing damage, it used to have a circle where he was going to land, doesn't seem to appear anymore).
I wonder what Lux is going to be like though or what Evelyn would be like after the buff they're supposed to be giving her. Might not be a complete waste of points after all.
Problem at the moment is I have 4000+IP but I don't know what to spend it on...
Could finally figure out a main and get runes for it, then again could get a couple of champs >_>
Soladrin wrote:Not interested. cause It can't replace actual Dota :3
It's made by the developers of DotA and it's pretty much the same game with more heroes, some newer maps, and a slight bit of persistent leveling to it.
I've been having a lot of fun with Yi, especially now that I have a solid item build for him. I also lane with someone else now instead of going mid, and I've been working on trying to coordinate my teammates when no other 'leader figure' emerges.
I've played Teemo in a Practice game stacking Phantom Dancers for the lols, should try it sometime. Moves at around 620ish and downs most tank champs in 10 secs tops as he's attacking at the max attack speed and has a critical rate of somewhere around 90%.
Not viable in a real game though which is disappointing. Still hilarious to watch it zoom across the map, kill the dragon, enter the bottom lane take out everyone there and down a tower or two before vanishing into the jungle again. You need to use the speed and the minions though because you have no survivability outside of the dodge chance from the Phantom Dancers which I think is around 60-65%.
As for the rotation it's alright I guess. Has some good, somewhat considered OP, champs in there Jax, Garen, Shen. No idea why they've been spamming Heimerdinger though. He used to be good when he could make three turrets, but after the recent nerf he' more or less average now. I'm interested to see what Eve will now be like with the changes to her in the patch, basically a rebuild almost. Teemo got some changes too which were kind of strange.
Also for the patch release notes for the nerfs and buffs, Urgot's had to be the funniest ("Removed recommended tag". I'm waiting to see if they fix up the bug with Pantheon's ult or if it's really just a change.
As for Lux, liked the spotlight and have around 6000ish IP sitting around so kind of tempted to buy her to try her out. But I basically do this every time a new champ comes out (except Swain and Urgot (well maybe Swain for a moment because of the laser bird)) Which is annoying because I want to find a main and get some runes. >_>
Alistar dominated a game I played, he had like 27 assists... Others got the kill but we knew who was responsible. Teemo f***ed some gak up too, he ended up with the most actual kills. Damn poison...
Brought Lux today and she seems to be fun. For some reason the recommended build suggests Rylai's though. The problem I see with it is that it slows for only 2 seconds. Q snares for the same amount, W only hits allies and I'm not sure if it stuns with E really just leaving the reduced effect on her ult. >_>
Also the spotlight was right, with a tiny bit of cool down reduction runes my ult refreshed in 38 seconds at level 3.
Not worth spamming though I see it more as Ashe's ult minus the stun and slight slow. Really I guess I use it on low health runners.
Man I just stumbled upon this...and it made me jealous I'm in a deployed location so I haven't been able to play for like 4 months only 2 more to go!!!...great free game!!! I love to play as Warwick he is a jungle master early and near unstoppable 1v1 late in game. My other Favorite is Karthus was terrible with him when I first tried him out and stopped for awhile then I picked him up again determined to use him as the super nuker I know him to be...and the pay off was oh so good Can't wait to get back into it when I get back even though I'll be a bit rusty. My username is same on LoL as here, maybe I'll see you guys in 2!!!!
Also yesterday I was able to 1v1 a Garen with Lux. I had 3/4 health left, Garen on full. With a combination of my passive, snare, slow and shield I was able to kill him and escape with a little less than 1/4 left.
Also I hate AP Teemo so very very much. In 3v3 almost the entire map can be filled with those dam mushrooms making it near impossible for you to chase him.
Name on LoL is Iustis if you're interested in adding. Feel free to PM first if you want, so I know who is who, but I don't mind. Also I'm almost exclusively support.
A smurf is someone with more than one account. He/She has a higher level account, and then makes a second low-level account, and this account will almost always win due to playing lower-levels, unless facing other smurfs.
Speaking of smurfs, know what sucks? Facing off in a lane against 2 of them at once, both playing tanks, and then some other jackass on your team says you and your laning partner suck for having poor scores...
Lol I hate it. Last game I played was a 3v3, and one guy takes Garen. I think "Awesome" Garen is so good, and he can help me farm siphoning strike. He lags, feeds, and rage-quits.... :S
Current rotation is Ashe, Cho'Gath, Janna, Taric, Twisted Fate, Veigar, Warwick, Zilean, Udyr, Galio.
Decent one, but I really hate Taric's stun early game and alot of people seem to be using him.
And for reference and convinience; I'm Ekriel on there, and I can't settle on a single champ to save my life, though currently hooked on Nidalee. Throw spear, get chased, cat form, chase them away, throw spear, get chased...
Nidalee is who I played when I very first started....that cat can get super wicked late game even mid game it's pretty deadly. I really shouldn't look at this forum anymore...especially since I can't play for like another month and a half.....it just makes me antsy.....then I'm gonna hop on after not playing so long and get wiped...might have to create new account just so I don't discrace the Swanky name, lol.
Name is Kingkodo - I got an invite to the closed beta from my buddy who is friends with one of the developers, so, I have been playing since then.
I play the greatest support class ever - taric. I also play alot of amumu, malz, teemo, nid, poppy etc etc. I have almost every champ. I wrote a guide to playing poppy, I am 37W/3L with her. One thing I would suggest; if you are new, buy the collector's pack at best buy or some other store. it is cheap 25-30$ and it gives you a ton of champions and riot points, absolutely worth the low cost. I think it gives you all of the original champs minus some of the 6300 ones.
I really hate the new rotation I always play Nasus, and I'm not AMAZING with him, so I'm feeling frustration this round from Warwick, Amumu, Twisted Fate, Veigar.... etc Last game I played I laned with a Taric who was feeding constantly. As soon as we were able to, we got a surrender vote going, no votes against
I wanted to try this one out, but it wouldn't install :( well, it installed but when it was patching I would keep getting errors. I tried installing like 3 times :(
You could check their tech support and/or FAQ, I'm sure they have something like that. (I wouldn't know, I never had any problems)
But first question, could it possibly be your firewall/antivirus blocking the patcher? I know that happened to me with WoW, I had to manually configure it to always allow the patcher through. Try that first.
Yeah I checked their faq and it seemed like a known error, they just said you'll have to reinstall from scratch again. The patcher would work for a few patches, and then one of them somewhere along the line would make it break again so I just gave up
Wow this is really freaky, I just noticed... You know the patch loader screen that shows up whenever you start the game, but before you sign in? I just looked at it, and I noticed the 3 champions it shows are the EXACT 3 I own as of right now. WTF!
I don't mind Teemo, but I ask you dakkudakku (as my non-gaming friend calls it, and he thinks i'm in a cult :S), what should I play next? I've really gotten into Alistar, Veigar, and Nunu, but I want something new, and I've already tried Nasus who simply bores me now. Who should I play?
Yeh I actually brought Trist, then found out about that later.
What type are you really looking for Vadem?
I'd say support like Janna, but it annoys me when I shield the carry ready for a gank and either they think they are invicible or it means they're in great danger and hide until it's gone. >_>
I found a guide that's pure gold for being a good Cho tank. Only tested it once but it was the 2nd best I've ever done as Cho. It would have been the best but my teammates weren't all quite up to par... (our Warwick was excellent though)
Eating You Doesn't Make Him Any Less Of A Gentleman
The trick with most guides is that you cannot follow them exactly and expect it to work out perfectly as they are written to suit the play style of the creator. Therefore you must use them as a guideline and restructure it to suit your own style or it will probably not work. The guides written by Condon there are actually pretty funny and mostly useful. Stuff like the guide, the MFing Cho'gath, like most comedy it is better experienced rather than explained or described.
Condon, MFing Cho'gath Guide wrote:
"But Condon! Where is the AP? Where does the sweet deeps come from?!?!?!" you may be asking in a couple paragraphs.
To the first: Don't be a woman. There is no room for fancy sticks and jewlery when you are the MFing Cho'Gath.
To the second: The Cho'Gath, much like the Chuck Norris, kills through sheer bed-wetting terror. He doesn't need to go out of his way to murder people.
Or the guide based on his writing by Rydog, Twitch - AKA John Rambo the Rage-Inducing Steamloller.
Rydog, Twitch - AKA John Rambo the Rage-Inducing Steamloller wrote:Q: Durp durp Avarice Blades aren't real items, l2play newb!!!1!11
A: Go back to Driving Miss Daisy. Big crits mean big mother****ing crossbow bolts of death, and the ability to basically ignore creeps and make cheddar off of your items and your psychotic rampages is a nice one. The dual Avarice Blades let you get big and mean before everybody else.
Big mother****ing crossbow bolts being a key point in the guide.
Yeah I liked the MF'ing Cho'Gath guide... Tried to follow it, didn't quite work. I think I need a biiit more experience before I can make them 'wet themselves in terror' at my coming... (that and I think that guide was written before Cho'Gath got nerfed, or so I've heard)
LOL, anyway I really like ability-heavy champions (tried warwick for fun during a practice game, all abilities on cooldown constantly ), but as I'm used to tanking (at the moment), it would probably not be great if I used someone that died really easily (like Veigar, though I love him) Anti-gank powers are always a plus
You know what's frustrating? Playing a team game that requires coordination to win, against an evenly matched enemy, and NOBODY ****ING LISTENS TO YOU! That wouldn't even be an issue if SOMEONE would ****ing take charge and make a plan, rather than running around alone like headless chickens, asking to get jumped and killed. A potential victory thus becomes an irretrievable loss due to the utter stupidity of others.
The above is what I posted on Facebook, but in the context of this thread it becomes much more clear exactly what I mean. The sad part is, my teammates weren't even bad players, as far as general fighting ability... But they were completely and utterly slowed at coordinating! I told them so many ****ing times from mid to late game "ok guys, we need to coordinate and push a lane" "we need to stick together and move in packs" "this (random encounter team battles all across the map) will just keep going back and forth, we need to pick a lane and push it!" Finally we were overwhelmed when the enemy killed half our team roaming wild and pushed up the already weakened mid. We could have won that game if those idiots would just talk to each other and stick to a plan, stop running around like idiots and push a goddamn lane... But no, now I have yet another loss tacked on to my record due to rampant stupidity.
I stopped playing PUG games after I got a team that only spoke Thai, no co-ordination at all from them either.
As for Warwick, give him smite and try to jungle, he is awesome at it. On the 3v3 map he should be going back to base at roughly level 6 or 7.
Start with cloth armour, 2 health pots and 2 mana pots. He can solo the dragon at level 8, but make sure smite and all abilities are up and you are over 50% hp.
The entire team should be at least 2-3 levels above the enemy for most of the game, with the exception of their solo. Also it is best to wait for the enemy minion waves to pass to remain completely out of sight of the enemy. A smart team mate would say something like "dam ww is afk, we'll play until surrender".
A smart enemy will see through this, a normal would get facerolled later provided you stay hidden properly and they don't try to hunt for you.
A friend has been trying to get me out of being virtually exclusivly support for a bit now, trying to get me to become good at Galio; who is actually quite fun. Once an Amumu tried to 1v1 me. I put up the shield, then gust then smited him before auto attacking. He stayed in the fight for a bit, but tried to run because he was on low health. Shield, gust then ult. Amumu stands there hitting me for a bit then dies.
For the rest of the game he ran from me which saved me from a 2v1 with Mundo, and got me a kill on Mundo who tried the same.
This rotation has Gangplank... It's like the guys at Riot are picking their rotations to include at least one enemy I hate intensely every week. I swear one of these weeks the rotation is going to be Teemo, Ryze, Nasus, Twitch, Gangplank, Anivia, Kog'Maw, Zilean, Shaco. You can't possibly imagine the RAGE.
I love stuns, and geenerally anything that will help get the gank. I really love my ability-heavy support tanks (Alistar was my first, could you tell? )
Lux is awesome as a support caster, but it turns out I suck with her... Shame too, she's literally the Shoop Da Whoop postergirl for League of Legends due to her alt. Seriously. She fires a giant laser.
This is her official unofficial theme song:
(if you want to skip to the heavy part go to 1:58, but you shouldn't skip in music because it's against the spirit of listening...)
I got Lux, tried to main her when she just came out. It's too bad that she sucks so much. It's not a matter of skill, but more of just not so great character design. Sure the shield is useful, but one it's a skill shot and two it usually blocks about half of one hit. Around 300-400 AP she blocks about 300ish damage so the ratios are pretty bad.
I was pretty disappointed to find out that her peak level is 6.
As Nidalee I literally laughed off the damage when we were both level 8 and turned into a Cougar ensuring that she never tried to kill me again.
As for good supports, Janna and Sona. Janna's ult isn't so great, but with a decent AP build it can be a pretty hand AOE heal rather than for the push then slow. Her shield is aweome, at level 5 it gives as much extra damage as a BF sword. As for Sona, give her a good AP build. She will be able to nuke pretty hard and heal pretty decently with the extra movement speed and a quick stun from her ult which works really well with some other ults.
MasterDRD wrote:Speaking of smurfs, know what sucks? Facing off in a lane against 2 of them at once, both playing tanks, and then some other jackass on your team says you and your laning partner suck for having poor scores...
Anyway the new rotation is awesome.
Another reason why I like HoN better. If you want to smurf you have to pay to reset your stats or buy another account. Which means it happens a heel of a lot less than in DotA or LoL. Plus HoN feels more twich/action packed than LoL, to me anyways. Its much closer to the true DotA experience. Plus their community support is awsome just like for their past games.
MasterDRD wrote:Speaking of smurfs, know what sucks? Facing off in a lane against 2 of them at once, both playing tanks, and then some other jackass on your team says you and your laning partner suck for having poor scores...
Anyway the new rotation is awesome.
Another reason why I like HoN better. If you want to smurf you have to pay to reset your stats or buy another account.
I'm actually not a smurf it's just that I played DoTA, and my friend plays a smurf that he created for the people who joined like me and another person. Anyway, I will be temporarily (perhaps permanently) retiring from LoL, as I just got Starcraft 2
Just an update if you all didn't know, LoL won the Golden Joystick Award for best online game, and they gave everyone who voted a bonus rune page just like they promised! Now I finally have the 3 pages I need: Physical DPS, Tank, and Spellcaster. Any minor adjustments can easily be made pregame after picking my character...
Well this thread encouraged me to give it a go and now I really like league of legends.
Having a minor problem at the moment. I prefer ranged characters (so far I'm best with Tristana) so I've just bought Annie, but I don't seem to be doing so well with here. I'd heard she was a good champion so I guess I'm doing something wrong. I am finding that I don't do enough damage to stop other players killing me. Unfortunately my spell seem to take a very long time to cast. Does anyone have any tips for playing annie?
Check some guides man, they're pure gold for 'lernin2champ'. Leaguecraft.com is the best for people who aren't Summoner Level 3o, and I always go there to learn how to use a champ.
Generally most casters are fixed up by increasing Ability Power, Cooldown Reduction and Mana Regeneration. Then it differs depending on the champ itself.
An important skill to learn with any ranged champ is kiting. Simply attack then back off a bit, staying in range to always hit them but out of their range to stop them from hitting you. Usually you see if you can get them back to the tower. It's not always a good idea to try it though.
Another skill is realising that you're actually not invincible while hiding behind your tower. A smart player will know when to tower dive and teach you a lesson for being so naive. So many times has a squishy like a Lux hidden on 1/4 hp behind a tower only to see my Nidalee's spear come out of a nearby bush, hitting them directly (at it's max range) and followed by me telling my friends "SNIPER!".
Also Annie's passive is pretty fun, but don't waste the stun on the flamethrower. I've seen it work really well when used with Tibbers (There is a small blast of fire around him when he shows up, this stuns them).
To add to MasterDRD's suggestion also look up videos of that champ in action to add to what you learn from the guides.
Thanks for the advice. I have got better with annie but also tried Veigar (spelling may be wrong) and so far I find he fits the way I play a lot better.
Annie is one of the best casters in the game. This is primarily because her passive ensures that you have a stun ready almost all the time. Other characters (like taric) have an ability that is solely for the stun. She also has three heavy damage nukes, one of which is her ult that summons the bear that puts out good consistant damage and can tank towers long enough for a few characters to destroy it. she is a solid solo char as well because she can easily get last hits with her fireball while spending no mana to cast it. She fulfills solo/pusher/nuker/aoe nuker roles better than most characters fulfill any one of those roles.
On a side note - Aura Taric is the #1 support character in the game. He combines great team buffs with one of the best heals and stuns in the game. He also can debuff a ton of armor in team fights, while having a single yet strong aoe nuke. He is one of my mains. Build him with light AP/cd reduction and stack aura items and you are almost guaranteed a win in pug games. Get a spirit visage if you find the enemy targetting you alot, and you will easily pop team mates for 350+ heals and yourself for ~450.
I have twitch(w00t), Evelyn(woot), Pantheon, Sion, Tryndamere, Ashe,Kassadin, The gun chick, and teemo. I think...
SO far a great game, play it when not doing models(mom house), or when wow is not working(dads house)
I like this game alot, sometimes fustrating when you wipe out 2/3 of em, then the 3rd one survives and you die, ending your spree, All because your teamate was "jungling"
I play Twitch thesedays because I just got him. Best is 45-8-0 on treeline ^_^. SO ya, I like it.
Jungling is SO much money, and to any peopel playing twitch go crit rating rather then atk speed phail!
I just got introduced to this game this weekend. I had trouble downloading it while I watched my buddies play. I was able to get it installed and tried the tutorial. I'm going to try a real game this week.
Did you try the Battle Training too, or just the first tutorial? If not, try it. Also, I recommend doing a practice game or 2 before going into the que. Practice games don't go on your win/loss record.
I'm thinking of coming back to LoL, anyway I find the practice games are no help. They are OK to practice last-hitting, but I find it is way too easy to kill them, and get them to feed you The computers constantly over-extend themselves, and it should be able to get the kill with almost anybody.
Bot games are Practice games, or at least were, they're custom now and do go on the record. The tutorial doesn't.
I'll rank the bots.
1. Ryze Constantly surprising compared to the other bots. Sometimes he even sometimes performs a gank pretty decently. He also manages to do his combo quite well.
2. Nunu While Ryze bot is number one by a huge huge huge gap, the others are more or less even. Nunu manages to get his slows off decently and doesn't suffer with tower love like Alistar. As one of the only two tanks available as bots he does his role decently. He does like to spam heal in the fountain though.
3. Alistar Should be considered a stun on legs. His first and only priority seems to be "see an enemy, knock them into the air, retreat". Probably one of the most predictable bots, he is this high up in ranking as his knock up will usually either get you a kill or save you if something goes wrong.
4. Yi One of the runner bots (Ie they get hit once and if they're above level 6 they run really really fast back to base). He can usually help with a push.
5. Soraka The only thing she can do right is her ult. You'll be on 10 and might have ignite going all of a sudden heal, or healed just before they get the last hit on you. She sometimes suffers from the illusion of being Rambo. I'll be pushing a tower then maybe die or something from my friend, then all of a sudden Soraka jumps out of a nearby bush behind them, auto attacks twice and their health goes from 100% to 0%. Sometimes she'll stand completely still in the middle of an enemy minion wave and not even auto attack.
6. Sivir Her nickname between me and my friends is Feed bot, it fits rather accurately. I've seen her way too many times with the ult going and just farming minions, with no bounce at all. She is the second runner bot, but unlike Yi is completely useless at it.
Needless to say they are bots, never rely on them for anything but an easy kill for the enemy. A better use of them is to use them for bait for the enemy team so you can kill the good parts of the enemy team. Would be cool if they were as good as the DotA bots though.
Alistair is currently the worst tank in the game. He doesnt hit hard, his heal is garbage, all he has is a knock up and a push, but once he drops those, he doesnt do anything else. Take Amumu, he has a long range stun/drag/initiate-all-in-one, damage reduction/aoe damage with a basically non existent CD, massive AOE snare/damage, and % life drain AOE, he also drains magic resist. He is one of the best if not the best tank in the game, right next to shen.
Practice games are really just to learn a new character's mechanics and to learn how the game works in general if you are new. If there are bots in the game, it counts for nothing, but you get some IP if it is all players.
What bugs me is that everytime riot makes some changes to champs, some of them become usless, like heimer. He was terrible, then they buffed him and he became the best pusher/laner/tower-slayer ever. Then they nerfed him a bit, and a bit more, and a bit more. Now he is one of the most useless champs in the game.
This is to be expected though, especially when you have 30+ champs to keep balanced. Some of them always fall between the cracks.
Downloading it right now. Got interested due to a Game Informer article on the retail release of DOTA Allstars 2.
My name on LoL (PUNHAHAHA) is agroszkiewicz
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Soladrin wrote:Not interested. cause It can't replace actual Dota :3
You know it is produced by the exact same folks that made the original DOTA right? Its dota free of blizz's restrictions.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Pretty cool, its exactly like DOTA just with different graphics and easier to use interface. Best free game I've played in a long time. Did a game as Corky and a game as Heisenwhateverhisnameisthatmakesturrets
n0t_u wrote:Heimerdinger and too bad you missed his golden age. He used to be considered very op, but now he's more or less balanced.
I've finally managed to break away from the support champs and seem to be going decently with Ashe.
I went 18/2/7 with Heimer last night on my thrid ever game...I think he's still feth all OP unless focus fired down by 3+ heros.....seems to be a powerhouse mid game but kinda sucks compared to others once you are maxed out.
Also REALLY enjoying Sivir the Battlemistress.
To all new folks, you make enough to start buying a hero after maybe 3 games.
Automatically Appended Next Post: This game has effectively halted progress on my army for the time being. rofl
Sivir is not as crap as people think, the most recentish changes to her fixed her up a bit. She's a pretty decent solo mid in 5v5 due to her good farming skills. She's not OP, but she's not as crap as she used to be either.
Heimer used to be able to make 3 turrets, which had more health and did slightly more damage if I remember correctly.
What heroes were you interested in Agro?
There are some that can be godly in 3v3, but absolute crap in 5v5 (Tryndamere for example). Yi is only 450 and can be OP as long as your team is going well to begin with, if they capitalize on his initial squishiness and manage to keep him down he won't really do much. If they leave him be though or don't slow him down enough he will walk right over all of them.
I really like the fast and tactical nature of Sivir. I've run into ALOT of Mordekaisers and Cho Gaths tonight so I've not been doing well. She seems to be VERY dependant on getting a few levels solo under her belt and some very expensive gear....but at 18 with the right stuff soloing a tower and an inhibitor takes less than 30 seconds provided there is a nice minion screen.
Tried Cho Gath, but couldn't get his timing down. Not a huge fan of stunlock BANG YOU ARE DEAD hero's.
I've not much cared for non-ranged hero's. Sitting there and slugging it out reminds me of 3 years spend leveling 2 warriors in WoW and maxing out their tank/dps sets. Yuck.
Yeh that's pretty much the reason why melee ranged champs stay pretty low on the tier list. Throw a decent ranged against them and they'll never get a hit in. Only thing helping Yi with that is the Q ability he has.
Sion is one of my fav chars. His best build is by far ap with some rod of ages/cd reduction. His stun is very OP because you can get it down to a 4sec cd and have it hitting for 800+dmg. He will be difficult to kill between his high hp, passive, and shield.
Yi is not OP, he is actually terrible, especially in high ELO matches. He is too easy to counter by simply nuking him with an ap character such as annie/malz/anivia/etc etc etc. He loses by default to several characters, such as trynd (ooohhh good luck fighting trynd with yi, you lose every time) and olaf.
If you like yi, give olaf a shot. He is a very tough damage dealer, he attacks faster as his health drops, he DESTROYS tanks with his armor penetration and true damage strike, and his ult is godlike, much better than yi's. Olaf's ult makes it so he cannot be crowd controlled by anything, and he gains tons of armor penetration. Build him with a ton of hp (because one of his abilities adds damage based on max hp) and atma's and you end up with a melee champ that will stick to carries like glue and wanders around with 5k+hp, swinging for 500+dmg a swing regardless of armor, and can only be stopped by killing him.
Automatically Appended Next Post: also worth trying would be corki, although he is a 6300 champ. He hits extremely hard with everything, and he has a good escape mechanic.
Guides are your friend agro, particularly the ones on leaguecraft. Check out a few different guides for any one champion and you'll have more insight and you'll -play that champ better than before, guaranteed.
For example, this guide turned me into a beast with Cho'Gath:
Cho'Gath: Eating you doesn't make him any less of a Gentleman
Here is a key to playing sion - dont play him like a melee char. sion has two features that make him very very good. first - he has the highest natural armor and health of any character in the game. This means, he is the toughest champ at low levels. Second - his stun and shield deal great damage, and have good, short cooldowns. Build him ap and make sure you get rod of ages for the health.
When you are laning; sit in the shrubs and activate your shield, let it count down until you can manually pop it then run out and pop a champ with your stun, get close to him and blow the shield. Get sheen and this easy little combo will be doing over 500dmg at a very low level.
Sion's best ability is his stun, abuse it. He also nukes lanes very easily with his shield, at higher levels you can just blow your shield and put down an entire minion wave.
What is nice about building him ap is - he still deals some damage with his auto swings because of enrage and you can still make use of his ult for plowing towers which is where basically every other AP champ fails.
Awesome man, thanks! I was going for straight health builds with some lifestealing, but it just didn't have enough punch to do anything than make other hero's flee. I can see how reduced CD's and beefed up AP would make his stun ridiculous.
Like I said he can be built as AP, but he's at his best as a tank. I recommend you check out the guides on Leaguecraft, they break down what abilities to max first, how to use them, what items to buy, etc. There's at least one guide for AP Sion too, if you really want to give that a try.
I dont know who in their right mind would build a tank sion, hes terrible with a tank build. All you have as a tank is a single stun, then you can just stand there and do nothing. He wont hit hard with anything, which means there is no reason to target him at all, the enemy team can simply ignore him. As AP, you will hit hard as hell, have a short cd stun while still being difficult to kill, thus he is best as an off-tank. For a rundown on the best builds for a champ, look at what top players in high ELO matches play, look at what builds they run in tourneys etc etc.
On a side note - I wrote several of the guides on leaguecraft.
AP Sion with a decent lanemate is really really fun. I have ALOT of trouble with Ashe though.....but oh well. He's great at smashing towers and has a buttload of health.
Having a 2 second stun that hits for 300ish at level 5 isn't too shabby.
I've had plenty of success with Tank Sion, I dunno what you're on about. Atma's Impaler goes well with all that HP you stack, he can do a good bit of damage that way.
I've been messing around with various items. Seems that he benefits alot from movespeed, AP, and cooldown reduction. Attack speed isn't shabby either, but not worth building for IMO.
<3 that weapon that increases base damage by 100% following a cast.
Tank Sion could be good at not dying, but AP Sion is alright at not dying and pretty decent at killing.
I'm not sure if you want a Sheen on him, but I don't play Sion. Agro, after a while if you want to use Sheen it would work out better to upgrade it to a Lichbane which adds 100% of your AP to your next attack. I use it on Nidalee and get awesome damage.
Agro - buy the collector's pack at best buy or something, I think it goes for 19.99$. You get 15-20 champs + a unique skin + a couple thousand RP points that you can use to buy stuff like skins. I know that one of the best appeals for this game is that it is free to play, but the collector's pack is worth buying. It will enhance your gaming experience exponentially.
HoN is a way better game, if your looking for something that is actually competitive, with more heroes, and is much closer to DOTA.
For those of you saying that LoL was made by the creators of DOTA, are only partly right. Guinsoo was involved in LoL, but Icefrog was not. If you guys know anything about DOTA, it was Icefrog who made it what it is today. including most of the balancing, heroes, cleaning up the map in general, and many other things. Icefrog is the reason DOTA jumped in popularity, and became it's own genere. Guinsoo played a part in DOTA, but make no mistake, that Icefrog was the real mind behind the game.
Sasori wrote:League of legends is a crippled shadow of DOTA.
HoN is a way better game, if your looking for something that is actually competitive, with more heroes, and is much closer to DOTA.
For those of you saying that LoL was made by the creators of DOTA, are only partly right. Guinsoo was involved in LoL, but Icefrog was not. If you guys know anything about DOTA, it was Icefrog who made it what it is today. including most of the balancing, heroes, cleaning up the map in general, and many other things. Icefrog is the reason DOTA jumped in popularity, and became it's own genere. Guinsoo played a part in DOTA, but make no mistake, that Icefrog was the real mind behind the game.
No offense Sasori, and I really dont give a damn about your hating on league of legends, but I have played HoN and it is garbage in my opinion. I am sure it appeals to some people, but all of my friends and I prefer LoL, it is simply a better game in our eyes.
Sasori wrote:League of legends is a crippled shadow of DOTA.
HoN is a way better game, if your looking for something that is actually competitive, with more heroes, and is much closer to DOTA.
For those of you saying that LoL was made by the creators of DOTA, are only partly right. Guinsoo was involved in LoL, but Icefrog was not. If you guys know anything about DOTA, it was Icefrog who made it what it is today. including most of the balancing, heroes, cleaning up the map in general, and many other things. Icefrog is the reason DOTA jumped in popularity, and became it's own genere. Guinsoo played a part in DOTA, but make no mistake, that Icefrog was the real mind behind the game.
Hi there, thats because Icefrog is working on the retail release for DOTA 2. LoL is FAR more entertaining, fast paced, and involves more metagame than DOTA ever had the capacity too. As someone that has literally played DOTA since its first incarnation on Bnet, I feel that LoL is the fast paced, tactical, semi-rpgish game that DOTA aspired too....only without the cheesedick gak like the stupid treant.
KingKodo wrote:No offense Sasori, and I really dont give a damn about your hating on league of legends, but I have played HoN and it is garbage in my opinion. I am sure it appeals to some people, but all of my friends and I prefer LoL, it is simply a better game in our eyes.
Why do you believe it's garbage, I'm curious to hear.
It isnt that HoN itself is garbage, it is just that LoL is superior to it. The gameplay, the synergy, team play, champions, etc etc etc, and most importantly, the support from the producer is above and beyond every other game I have ever played. This is what makes League of Legends not only superior to HoN, but superior to many other games that have been released by many other companies.
KingKodo wrote:It isnt that HoN itself is garbage, it is just that LoL is superior to it. The gameplay, the synergy, team play, champions, etc etc etc, and most importantly, the support from the producer is above and beyond every other game I have ever played. This is what makes League of Legends not only superior to HoN, but superior to many other games that have been released by many other companies.
No one answered me yet.
HoNimo, is just too much of a carbon-copy of DotA. Sure, you get some new heroes, but what else is new? Graphics? Meh, I could care less. I'm not saying HoN is garbage, too, but when you live in a country where you will find,at any given time of the day, at least one group of at least five people playing HoN or DotA in a internet cafe, it gets repetitive and at times, even boring. I have yet to play LoL, but from what I've read, I see that it is, in itself, a game on its own; possibly a welcome break from the never-ending spiral of DoTA-and-its-carbon-copies back here at home. (The rampancy of DotA in my country is very thread-worthy, trust me. I may just post one about it later.)
KingKodo wrote:It isnt that HoN itself is garbage, it is just that LoL is superior to it. The gameplay, the synergy, team play, champions, etc etc etc, and most importantly, the support from the producer is above and beyond every other game I have ever played. This is what makes League of Legends not only superior to HoN, but superior to many other games that have been released by many other companies.
Really, so How is it a game, where there is no real balance, and no esport potential, unlike hon, has superior gameplay.
I think the gamplay is easier, since HoN has a much steeper learning curve than LoL. HoN gets regular patches including new heroes, and content, quite frequently. The entire staff is active on the forums, and consistenly interacts with the community. I don't know how much more supportive you can get with a game.
Hon has
Better graphics
Real balance
More heroes
Ranked and Tracked Stats
Replays
Consistent, and frequent support
Esport
Frequent Content updates
LoL Has almost no balance, with the summoner mechanic. Crappy graphics, no real stats, and a very limited pool of heroes.
Of course, it's free.
I'm not saying LoL is garbage, it's just that HoN is superior in every way to it. The game play, the synergy, team play, heroes, and of course the balance. Is is what makes HoN Superior to LoL and Superior to a lot of games that be been released by many other companies.
The bottom line is, you get what you pay for. And that's the truth with LoL.
Fail? Just about every champion in LoL is viable. Players have the option of playing ranked games where their stats are tracked. LoL has had an update every week at least, with new content coming out every other week, at least. The devs actually monitor their forums and take champion suggestions into their designs, in addition to what the community discusses about items, maps, balancing, everything, because a game is not created by devs, it is created by the community that plays the game.
None of this matters however, since this is not a thread for Hon, it is a thread for LoL. If you want to talk Hon, make a thread. That way, you can continue convincing yourself how amazing it is.
KingKodo wrote:Fail? Just about every champion in LoL is viable. Players have the option of playing ranked games where their stats are tracked. LoL has had an update every week at least, with new content coming out every other week, at least. The devs actually monitor their forums and take champion suggestions into their designs, in addition to what the community discusses about items, maps, balancing, everything, because a game is not created by devs, it is created by the community that plays the game.
None of this matters however, since this is not a thread for Hon, it is a thread for LoL. If you want to talk Hon, make a thread. That way, you can continue convincing yourself how amazing it is.
I believe I am entitled to discuss my opinion, of how league of legends is a terrible game, and about it's superior counterpart, in a thread about said game.
It's not my fault that League of legends has glaring flaws at it's core, that prevent it from becoming a truly balanced, and competitive game.
I don't have to convince myself of how amazing HoN is, the game and Eports does that already.
However, you sure do seem to be trying hard to convince yourself that LoL is an amazing game.
Don't be mad that League of legends is inferior to HoN.
It's free after all. Who can fault a free game from falling, even if it hits Rock bottom like LoL, so short of a game that you have pay for.
Perhaps if you don't want to hear other peoples opinions on a subject, you should make a thread titled: "League of legends only positive things, and about how great this terrible game is" or not post on a forum at all.
Sasori wrote:
LoL Has almost no balance, with the summoner mechanic. Crappy graphics, no real stats, and a very limited pool of heroes.
I don't think you are playing the same game I have. The only "imbalance" in LoL is the noobishness of some players...IE they do stupid things that result in weakness a good player will take advantage of. As such the gameplay is VERY dependant on knowing the abilities of other heros and planning your own tactics accordingly. Also the graphics being on the "meh" side is a good thing because it makes the game accessible to more people. I couldn't care less about graphics over gameplay. No real stats? AP, Health, Damage, ArP, to name a few. As for a "limited" pool of heros there are literally 13 pages with 10 hero's each.
Sasori wrote:
LoL Has almost no balance, with the summoner mechanic. Crappy graphics, no real stats, and a very limited pool of heroes.
I don't think you are playing the same game I have. The only "imbalance" in LoL is the noobishness of some players...IE they do stupid things that result in weakness a good player will take advantage of. As such the gameplay is VERY dependant on knowing the abilities of other heros and planning your own tactics accordingly. Also the graphics being on the "meh" side is a good thing because it makes the game accessible to more people. I couldn't care less about graphics over gameplay. No real stats? AP, Health, Damage, ArP, to name a few. As for a "limited" pool of heros there are literally 13 pages with 10 hero's each.
I think you are confused.
I counted 62 Champions in LoL unless they haven't updated their site. I don't know where the 130 number came from, I'll take a look if you provide a link.
The fact is the changing variables(Summoner System) and other things, while allowing a lot more customization, and more fun for some players, it does mess with the balance.
By Stats, I mean things like the Player lifetime statistics, I'm not talking about health and what not. I apologize if I didn't elaborate well enough on that point.
KingKodo wrote:Fail? Just about every champion in LoL is viable. Players have the option of playing ranked games where their stats are tracked. LoL has had an update every week at least, with new content coming out every other week, at least. The devs actually monitor their forums and take champion suggestions into their designs, in addition to what the community discusses about items, maps, balancing, everything, because a game is not created by devs, it is created by the community that plays the game.
None of this matters however, since this is not a thread for Hon, it is a thread for LoL. If you want to talk Hon, make a thread. That way, you can continue convincing yourself how amazing it is.
I believe I am entitled to discuss my opinion, of how league of legends is a terrible game, and about it's superior counterpart, in a thread about said game.
It's not my fault that League of legends has glaring flaws at it's core, that prevent it from becoming a truly balanced, and competitive game.
I don't have to convince myself of how amazing HoN is, the game and Eports does that already.
However, you sure do seem to be trying hard to convince yourself that LoL is an amazing game.
Don't be mad that League of legends is inferior to HoN.
It's free after all. Who can fault a free game from falling, even if it hits Rock bottom like LoL, so short of a game that you have pay for.
Perhaps if you don't want to hear other peoples opinions on a subject, you should make a thread titled: "League of legends only positive things, and about how great this terrible game is" or not post on a forum at all.
Dude you're trolling so blatantly the distinctive stench is seeping out of my monitor and sinking into my clothes and furniture.
KingKodo wrote:Fail? Just about every champion in LoL is viable. Players have the option of playing ranked games where their stats are tracked. LoL has had an update every week at least, with new content coming out every other week, at least. The devs actually monitor their forums and take champion suggestions into their designs, in addition to what the community discusses about items, maps, balancing, everything, because a game is not created by devs, it is created by the community that plays the game.
None of this matters however, since this is not a thread for Hon, it is a thread for LoL. If you want to talk Hon, make a thread. That way, you can continue convincing yourself how amazing it is.
I believe I am entitled to discuss my opinion, of how league of legends is a terrible game, and about it's superior counterpart, in a thread about said game.
It's not my fault that League of legends has glaring flaws at it's core, that prevent it from becoming a truly balanced, and competitive game.
I don't have to convince myself of how amazing HoN is, the game and Eports does that already.
However, you sure do seem to be trying hard to convince yourself that LoL is an amazing game.
Don't be mad that League of legends is inferior to HoN.
It's free after all. Who can fault a free game from falling, even if it hits Rock bottom like LoL, so short of a game that you have pay for.
Perhaps if you don't want to hear other peoples opinions on a subject, you should make a thread titled: "League of legends only positive things, and about how great this terrible game is" or not post on a forum at all.
Dude you're trolling so blatantly the distinctive stench is seeping out of my monitor and sinking into my clothes and furniture.
If you would like to make a compelling argument on the subject, then I would gladly debate you.
I admit I've thrown a jabs at LoL, if you think KingKodo has not done so to HoN as well, then you need to reread his posts.
The fact of the matter is, I am allowed to express my opinion of the subject, and I've done so and not attacked any forum members. If you choose to regard this as "Trolling", so be it.
Feel free to contribute something useful to the discussion at anytime though, rather than just vividly describing me as a troll.
You have to admit that your posts would come across a bit as trolling, but I agree with parts of what you said.
LoL has been unbalanced for a while, that thread you linked has some obvious problems (Xin I'll explain in a bit) and some of the summoner spells are indeed extremely annoying (IE flash).
The stat system is sort of there, it doesn't really go into much detail. There's wins, loses and games you left. Then a separate one for ranked matches. It has it's obvious flaws at times (I come across so many glitches) but it comes down to you get what you pay for.
As for the Xin problem, yes he is OP but he explains briefly the current meta (for those wondering it's AoE spam basically). It currently leaves Xin as useless in any decent game. There is also another problem he failed to mention which is the difference some characters will have depending on the map you are playing on (another example of the lack of balance in a game).
Some characters like Tryndamere will be very very OP in 3v3 matches, but very weak and useless in the 5v5 map or vice versa. Some of the changes introduced through patches for characters also kind of break the game. For example try playing against a decent Teemo after his last buff. In 5s you'll pretty much beat him down, in 3s mushrooms take up half of the map and you will never catch anyone in that lane.
As for the almost constant glitches I come across, it's actually pretty funny. Yesterday Anivia blocked a small passage with an ice wall meant to stop me from catching them, some how I walked right through it (I was far enough away not to be touching it when it was made). Another time I've been knocked into a wall and got stuck there. There was even the fun Karthus glitch for a little while (He revived in his ghost form and was invincible for the rest of the game). The point is that even with all this crap to put up with I still play it because I find it fun. It's not about which is better (we'll know the answer when DoTA 2 comes out) but whichever one you find to be more enjoyable.
The only imbalance I run into is a completely smurfed player that farms noobs until they have so much money that their stats are boosted beyond ridiculous. I don't consider that a game issue....just more WAAC crud.
Out of the folks I've tried so far I enjoy Sion, Sivir, and Ashe the most. Alistar is tons of fun, but I just don't think he's very good right now. Sadly, he's one of the few glaring imbalances I've seen. Goddamn he's an amazing pusher though.
Maybe try some champions on rotation or if you feel like a melee tank give Garren a try. Maybe as you seem to like ranged ones you could try Nidalee (semi ranged can transform into a cougar with decent burst damage, despite the appearance it should be built as an AP carry, if you go with it I'll go into more detail), Corki, Miss Fortune, Twitch (stealth ranged) or Teemo (no exactly top tier but a bunch of fun to play).
If you learn to play a champion enough, you can be good with just about any champ, even alistair. He still has two interrupts which, depending on your opponents, can be game winners. He is also a bit odd in that he can solo backdoor towers late game (something usually reserved for olaf/yi/twitch etc). Olaf is a neat offtank champ - most enemies will not be prepared for the massive attack speed gains as his health drops. I dont understand why people say trynd is bad in 5v5, he destroys carries hard. Just wirlwind in, slow, butcher a carry, blow ult before you die, butcher the nearest support/carry they have. There is basically no way to avoid him assassinating a carry, and drawing focus onto himself from the other team...which doesnt much matter since he becomes invulnerable. Unless your opponents are extremely organized, you can easily murder two champs before you go down, and basically win the battle for your team.
Eh hes ok, TRY OLAF GOD DAMNIT. Hes tough, cant be crowd controlled, hits like a truck, attacks extremely fast (especially when hes hurt) has a huge AOE slow, and he penetrates armor and deals true damage, thus he can kill anything and there is nothing whatever it is is going to do about it. And, I believe he is 3150pts.
Brolaf has everything you were looking for besides stealth. Brolaf's idea of stealth is jumping out of a nearby bush and proceeding to push your face through the back of your head. Slow him, he uses his ult and no longer cares. Use ghost or can run faster than him, he throws his axe at you to slow you down to his level. Late game if you see him it's too late to escape having to fight him.
Speaking of which Riot finally caught on with the Brolaf nickname and made a skin for him.
Try jungle WW in a 3s or something. Start with cloth armour and as many health pots as you can get. The armour will eventually become Madred's Bloodrazor, but after you get the boots sorted go for the Bloodclaw for that extra damage to minions.
My friend plays him though so this is all by memory. For summoner spells Smite is definitely wanted here for that damage on the minions. For the other I think it might have either been Exhaust or Ignite. Then for skills I think it went Q>W>E for what you want to max, taking ult whenever you can.
The benefit is that each lane will gain 100% of the experience. But, the trade off is that there will be a 2v1 lane so that person has to be careful. Eventually your entire team should have a significant level advantage over the other besides their solo. Then proceed to gank their solo then the two remaining leading to a push. I'd probably wait until maybe level 9 or 10 before it.
Also an important skill is to not be found. They will know you're in the jungle, they may try to find you. If you have been doing it correctly they will die when they find you by themselves. 3v1 you'll still die. The trick is when leaving a jungle to pass through the lane do it to the back where no one is. You can do it on the enemy side, but wait in a bush on the edge for their creep wave to pass out of line of sight before leaving. The Bloodrazor will also help fight off those tanks.
Also another bit of advice that should be obvious is to watch gameplay videos, or champion spotlights if possible, for each champion you're interested in playing before purchasing them. Then once you do read up some guides to get a general feel of what the champ is about, what types of builds work and how you might go about using it. Then if you are still interested buy them, otherwise you have just stopped yourself from wasting IP.
Warwick can actually jungle without smite, since his life steal gets so high on single targets. By level 6, you should gank the 2v1 lane if they need it, which they usually will. keep this in mind: Killing the dragon yields more xp and gold to your team than getting a kill on a champ does. As soon as you have madred's claw (costs 1k total) warwick can solo dragon. Set up a ward at the dragon so that you know when it is up.
To be honest, warwick is not a very strong champ, but he has the best jungle skills, and his ult is great for lane ganking. He will start to lose his edge late game, but your team should be able to stay on top of theirs with warwick jungling/ganking.
Excellent advice on watching the champ spotlights n0t_u.
I definently noticed that WW is a bit weak late game. I think that I'm just not a great melee player, although folks trying to run from the wolf get chomped pretty bad.
I'd been going with boots as my first purchase, but maybe focusing on Madred's will give me the added survivability and minion damage I need to get fat mid game.
I definently enjoy 5v5 more than 3v3, but I'mma give the smaller games a shot this morning.
Dont buy boots as your first item, you dont really need the speed for anything until it is time to lane hop and gank. usually, one of the dorans items are a good choice for most characters. Also: save up for your tier 3 runes! they get extremely expensive later on but they are the best IP point investment you can make. 3v3 is tough, as your champion selection is very different from 5v5s. Jungling is much more important and many of the champs with huge AOE attacks are much less useful in 3v3. You need alot more focus damage because the first team to get a kill general determines the outcome of that particular team fight. Olaf is another excellent champ as is udyr, cho gath, ryze, twitch, etc etc. Any champ that has great combos but can be focused down quickly in 5s is usually much better in 3s because there isnt as much damage being passed around.
Wow, just did a game stacking Sunfire Capes on Sion....jesus christ he's insane. Think Cho Gath is annoying? Try Sion with 4600 health and ungodly armor that does 160 dps to everything around him. Stacked with uber move boots and a heal/ghost combo you can literally be the juggernaut.
I'm not denying the fun of Sunfire Capes. Another one that's fun but doesn't seem to work so well is stacking Phantom Dancers on something like Teemo.
Build was absolute crap but my normal move was somewhere around 600-650, I had 2.5 attack speed, 100% critical and something like 90% dodge. I would appear in a lane and quickly win a 2v1 fight. Outside of an inhouse game with bots this won't work as they will go "that's nice" and pick up that sword that ignores dodge or hit you with an AoE.
n0t_u wrote:I'm not denying the fun of Sunfire Capes. Another one that's fun but doesn't seem to work so well is stacking Phantom Dancers on something like Teemo.
Build was absolute crap but my normal move was somewhere around 600-650, I had 2.5 attack speed, 100% critical and something like 90% dodge. I would appear in a lane and quickly win a 2v1 fight. Outside of an inhouse game with bots this won't work as they will go "that's nice" and pick up that sword that ignores dodge or hit you with an AoE.
I've actually seen this build dominate entire games....its quite scary. I just can't bring myself to abuse poor poor little emo by sticking him into combat. He's too cute!
Gonna try tanked out Alistar with stacked health/capes. See if its as enjoyably useless as I remember him being a few days ago.
Give amumu or mundo a shot if you like the sunfires so much. Mundo has his own natural sunfire cape that deals even more damage and reduces crowd control effects. He also regenerates health extremely fast, making him very hard to kill. Amumu has a life drain aura too, except it is based on % maximum health, making it very deadly to tanks.
Automatically Appended Next Post: On a side note: Amumu is a game winner if you can time his ult properly. 2.5seconds of their team not moving or attacking makes amumu one of the best tanks in the game.
Cool, I was eyeballing Mumu last night. I've only got about 2500 points right now....considering just stomping people on Sivir all day....she's mah bitch.
I don't understand the whole rune thing...I can't figure out where I am supposed to set up mastery and rune points other than the match load in screen....which is usually slow as all piss and laggy until the match actually starts.
I'd screenshot it for you but the server is 'Busy' right now. But right next to the shop icon is the icon that takes you to your summoner profile, and on that page are several tabs. One is masteries, one is runes.
Digging the idea of Mundo or maybe some other person stacking Sunfires. Being unkillable is better than being a glass cannon.
I'd also like to say there are A LOT of really really horrible Sivir players. Nothing is more fun than stacking her with Ghost, Teleport, the move 5 OOC boots, Phantom Dancer, and the mastery that buffs Ghost. Pop sheild, haste, and watch an entire push run from you.
Automatically Appended Next Post: QQ, the log in server won't even launch. I click the icon and nothing happens! Oh well, at least I'm getting some modeling done instead of PVPing for hours again.
What makes mundo really neat is that his fire aura thing makes him difficult to crowd control esp if stacked with merc treads. Also, his ult gives him enormous movement speed. add ghost, and nothing will get away from you. Pick up a rylai's crystal scepter and your fire aura will now slow everything around you.
Up to you chief. Personally, I think garen is more well rounded for more situations, he has good offense while being tanky.
Mundo is more fun imo, but he can be countered easier with ignites, gangplank, MF etc. anything that prevents his healing. But, even with all that, mundo can be a terror if he gets rolling. What I like about mundo is that he can be tricky. He is a tank who really wants to get in your face with his giant flame aura of death. His masochsim ability can easily add several hundred damage to his attacks if his health is low, But, he has a really good long range skill shot that slows and deals % health damage. The problem with mundo is that you have to play him on the edge because that is where he is most dangerous, but also the most vulnerable, and if you get stuck against gangplank or MF, they are just going to toss their regen reducing debuffs on you and call it a day.
So, mundo is more risky, but can be more dangerous than garen. Garen is just good all around, but is limited in that hes just a tank with some damage output.
Hmm, I've already got Sion, Sivir, and WW as uber gankers....I think Garren will prolly be more what I am looking for at this point. Mundo does appear to be a hero that requires some serious skill.
IMO, stop buying champs until you get the collector's edition. Since it gives 20 or 25 champions, you are almost guaranteed to be wasting IP points on champions that the collector's pack will give you anyway. Save your points for runes when you hit lvl 30, just play off of the champion rotations each week, that way you wont waste points and you will figure out which champions you really like.
Out of all the hero's I've tried Sivir is still the absolute most brutal when it comes to "you don't see me for the first 10 levels then I start ganking your team".
One thing that I've noticed is playing aggresively at the begining of the game is a REALLY bad idea. Honestly I rarely even get a kill prior to level 10 and only then if my opponent is monumentally stupid.
Mobility is THE most important part of the game (other than teamwork). I generally go with Ghost and the move 5 OOC boots, but can't make a choice on my second spell being Teleport or Heal.
Teleport I mostly use midgame to grab up huge wads of minions for gold/xp, and Heal is always useful. I haven't had more than 3 deaths in a game (other than using a totally new hero) for the last 2 days.
The cool thing about it is that it can also cancel attacks from the enemy. I find it best used for jumping a long wall when escaping. Alistar basically has his knockups to let your DPS get the kill a little easier. With his heal as well he seems more like a support tank to me.
n0t_u wrote:The cool thing about it is that it can also cancel attacks from the enemy. I find it best used for jumping a long wall when escaping. Alistar basically has his knockups to let your DPS get the kill a little easier. With his heal as well he seems more like a support tank to me.
He's just a POS honestly. I've tried several different builds with him, and he is less durable than Sion with a health build. I won't even go into how useless an AP build is. Also his damage buff vs towers is pretty weak considering the passive abilities that some hero's get.
Honestly, he's the best example of game imbalance that I've found.
I also found the game much more enjoyable at low summoner levels where folks were more disorganized and focused on 1:1 fights instead of the 2+:1 that are the norm at mid level.
n0t_u wrote:The cool thing about it is that it can also cancel attacks from the enemy. I find it best used for jumping a long wall when escaping. Alistar basically has his knockups to let your DPS get the kill a little easier. With his heal as well he seems more like a support tank to me.
He's just a POS honestly. I've tried several different builds with him, and he is less durable than Sion with a health build. I won't even go into how useless an AP build is. Also his damage buff vs towers is pretty weak considering the passive abilities that some hero's get.
Honestly, he's the best example of game imbalance that I've found.
I also found the game much more enjoyable at low summoner levels where folks were more disorganized and focused on 1:1 fights instead of the 2+:1 that are the norm at mid level.
Every champion has their place, even alistair. He is great for laning because he will keep the minions alive with his aoe heal. He also has a simple but effective early game move in his knockup+headbutt backwords into your tower, it works nearly every time, similar to blitzcrank's rocketgrab +knockup by tower trick. Try playing as MF or Nunu, or anyone else who channels their spells, and you will see where alistair dominates. Nothing is more irritating than an alistair sitting on his headbutt so he can knock MF out of her game changing ult.
Some champions will be terrible in certain situations, they arent all good at doing everything, that is where imbalances happen. If everyone does everything well, then some of them have to be better than others at doing the same things, or else every champion would be the exact same character.
Automatically Appended Next Post: you just have to get used to the fact that he doesnt really do any damage. All he does is interrupt and draw fire. Try baiting a team with him, pop his ult at half health or something. They will have wasted their Cooldowns and spells and everything else trying to stop him from running away, then your team jumps on them.
Also, not that his ult gives him alot of damage, combine it with his passive, and he will easily deal out 200+damage a swing to a tower while taking zero damage.
I dont like playing as alistair, but he is far from a bad champion.
I've really enjoyed Sivir with the move 5 OOC boots and then focusing on straight attack damage. dps is lower, but the burst from a haste/boomerang combo is utterly ridiculous if you buy the right items.
She is stupidly gear dependant.
QQ I just finished a match with a Karthus that actually watched the minimap and had a 850 point ulty nuke during endgame. I only had 1800 health....it sucked.
I have been, but I'm about to try move3 boots and nothing but INfinity Edge. Its a total support build because you are made of paper, but my average scores usually look like 9/4/20 give or take 3-4 in either direction on each number. Basically I bounce around the board and show up when my team needs support....pop haste on everyone and let them do the kill while I clear out the minions for gold. Rinse and repeat.
This is because if I play intelligently I NEVER meet an enemy without having my Haste up. Crits and attack damage benefit more from haste than more haste does. 10 years of raiding in EQ to WoW.
I always use the m3 boots they're pretty cool. I guess maybe try Boots of Swiftness, Manamune, Infinity Edge, two Phantom Dancers and a Blood Thirster and see how it goes.
It's generally the build I use with Ashe and it seems to go decently.
You were doing it correctly then, Oracle happens to be the best way to fight stealth characters. If you can it's also good to drop the purple ward in key areas as well (both red buffs, both blue buffs, dragon and baron).
Just don't forget that the tower also reveals them. I've seen players throw wards in the areas between towers (the outer most and the enemy's outer most) and that seems to work alright as well. The problem with wards is that if you over do them you actually put yourself at a disadvantage, but too few and you might as well not bother.
Twitch should die in every team fight. He is soft as hell, and has no escape mechanic. The second he pops his ult and starts shooting, get him with an exhaust and go after him, he wont be able to stop you. Twitch is very good if they have tanks that can hold you in place and prevent you from getting to him. However, some champs can get to him very easily and nuke him down even easier, like corki or akali. In those situations, he needs to be very careful because he has no way of defending against those champs, especially corki, since he has a blind aoe nuke.
Wow, ok so this new build makes Sivir uttelry ridiculous. Game length 1:23:46. My team 98 kills, their team 45. My stats 25/7/33 with some ridiculous number of minions and 7 buildings.
I could also melee down their tanks for most of the game.
The game win came down to no inhibitors on either side for 15 minutes, and all the teams dead except me and one other guy. I teleported into the base after a push (minions) and killed both towers, got the base to 30% before he killed me after hearthing. Then he did the same gak and killed our base with 4 seconds left on the rezz clock for our next up hero. You do NOT get PVP like that in WoW anymore. It reminds me of the glory days in WSG.
I was playing a game yesterday as Vlad, and I forget most of my other team but there was a Kog.
15 mins into the game, I'm defending mid, and I look at the mini map and no one on my team is actually doing anything. So I figure, "Ohh, maybe they're all just healing at once" so I go back (being on 50 hp from the 5v1 assault near the tower, thanks to pool) and everyones just standing there. I heal fully, buy about 1.5k in stuff (I think spirit visage) and my team were still there. So I'm like "wtf?"
It turns out that bot wasn't doing well, so everyone else on my team decided that we had lost, so were all afk. (score was 12-18 at that point btw). Kog started helping alittle, but we were still steam rolled 2v5.
Get over it son, it happens. It is a game, and if people dont feel like playing. You cant blame them for not being in the mood of playing.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, manamune can be very good on some champs, particularly physical damage dealers that rely heavily on mana. They used to pick up a chalice of harmony to regen mana, now they can get an item that gives a good amount of attack damage, tons of max mana, and good mana regen. Most champs with no mana gear with gain between 60 and 70 atk damage from manamune, that is very respectable.
No, I usually just focus on practicing my tactical maneuvers in a game that we'll obviously lose. My chosen hero is highly dependent on having a semi-competent team that can do organized pushes.
Besides, who cares if you waste a half hour with AFK team mates. You get IP, and more xp/gold than you would normally.
The absolute biggest differences I've noticed in game play come from centering the camera and mostly watching your minimap and READING A LEAGUE CRAFT GUIDE.
That crazy ass hour and a half game with almost 100 team kills was a 4(us)v5(them). Its totally possible to have a fun game even if its imbalanced.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Sweet jesus, I just single handedly made an entire team ragequit. 3rd surrender today......Sivir is incredible played correctly!
KingKodo wrote:Get over it son, it happens. It is a game, and if people dont feel like playing. You cant blame them for not being in the mood of playing.
Actually you can. It's considered very bad manners to join such an intensive team-oriented game and then just stop playing halfway through. Now if it had been one person leaving because something happened IRL that's understandable, but even then if they knew it was coming they shouldn't have started a game in the first place. This is especially a problem in LoL because there's no queue of new people who can jump in if you quit ala WoW, and even one person leaving can break your team's chance of winning. This is even worse if the game isn't in Custom because it then goes on your record permanently as a loss, which is a measure of how good you are at the game in the eyes of other players.
I'm convinced that reading up ion a good build and some guides makes a WORLD of difference. Plus now that I'm up at level 17 the PVP is really really good. YOu run into the occasional Korean farm team, but oh well.....like I said. Reminds me of old school WoW PVP. Back when it was actually fun.
Best free game ever.
This is my WAAC game, now I can feel nice and fluffy with 40k.
KingKodo wrote:Get over it son, it happens. It is a game, and if people dont feel like playing. You cant blame them for not being in the mood of playing.
I can blame them if they are playing the game.
'sides, excessive amounts of time spent afk is a bannable offense. It's one of the default reasons for reporting. It's under abusive language and above other
Ok, so I'm seriously considering using Sivir for ranked matches. Does anyone have advice on this? Is it like WoW where ranked PVP is pointless under max summoner level? Would love some perspective from pro players.
Laning tactics perfected! Haven't died during laning for the last 12 games. No more than 6 deaths in any game, and that was from a MASSIVELY fed Yi. Noob ass Yi. Stoopid noob ass Yi. Only noobs use Yi.
feth Yi. Noob. Ugh.
Edit: The really incredible thing about Sivir is that you do NOT need to get kills to become semi-fed. Its ALL about constantly gaining gold from killing....if you aren't killing, you should be healing or moving towards the next minion kill. Snipe kills midgame with boomerang harrass....she's AMAZING at pressuring. Plus the noobs run like hell from you.
Automatically Appended Next Post: 5 man push endgame is incredible. +90% attack speed +25% movement speed for every hero in range is a game winner.
MasterDRD wrote:I sense much Yi-hate from you my padawan... You must learn to release your anger and become one with the Wuju...
Because he's a total noobshit character. Seems like every match Yi uses the same build....I mean the obvious counter is to not feed him, but baddies are bad.
He's the n00b champ, the king of n00bs, the n00b savior, but he's still pretty damn cool. But I hate versing chain stun teams more.
That guide you linked before is actually making me consider trying out Sivir again, brought her a fair while ago (about level 7ish, I've been 30 for a while now), but capped internet sucks very much >_>
n0t_u wrote:He's saying what we were too polite to point out.
He's the n00b champ, the king of n00bs, the n00b savior, but he's still pretty damn cool. But I hate versing chain stun teams more.
That guide you linked before is actually making me consider trying out Sivir again, brought her a fair while ago (about level 7ish, I've been 30 for a while now), but capped internet sucks very much >_>
The Sivir build is amazing. Once you get a Manamune the farming is ON. I'm gonna try buying magic pots instead of health in a few minutes so's to have more ability to harrass during early laning.
The ability to wipe out a wave of minions with 1 click is so amazing...you can decide when and where your minions will break through, hit people through walls with boomerang, spellsheild Karthus Ulty for mana (and its always nice to TELL him that in /all!), etc. She really does have the tools needed to be a crazy good teamfighter and harrass....but not good at solo kills vs non noobs.
Noobs are nom nom though. Boomerange hitting for 600 by level 10 is hardcore mid game.
But n00bs are always that. When I was level 28 my level 6 friends invited me to a game. Basically a support Sona should not be able to gank top, then go help mid gank, then gank bot before returning to help top take out a tower at level 10 without stopping at the fountain.
Also I don't know if you've came across it yet, but solo mid Lux is pretty funny. She's a pretty crappy champ (unfortunately I found out after a half rune page, too much optimism on my part >_> ) but if she solos mid and uses the passive she can hit hard early one. One thing to remember is that her peak for this is only level 6. Pretty disappointing, basically she seems like she's just there for the ult and it doesn't even hit that hard.
The problem I have with yi is that late game, he becomes a backdoor character only. He is sooooo easy to counter. most tanks can counter him, rammus, fiddle, galio, shen, malz, vlad, the list just goes on and on and on. Many of those are also top tier characters that you see in 99% of games, which means yi is being countered in 99% of games = /. At that point, he is useless in team fights and his only purpose is to backdoor the towers, which also means your team is going to lose every team fight.
If he gets fed early game, he can carry the entire game because he can alpha strike down lower level champs easily, and smash towers in seconds. I have seen a fed yi dominate a team battle, then proceed to smash the entire lane and the nexus before the enemy team could respawn :O
There are much better melee carries that fulfill the same roles as Yi and then some, and fulfill those roles better, such as olaf. Olaf has an AOE slow, yi has no crowd control at all. Olaf will attack faster than Yi when his health gets lower. Olaf will always hit harder than yi, even with less +atk damage gear, leach more health even with less life leaching gear. Olaf can also do something Yi cannot, kill tanks, it is actually dangerous for a tank to taunt olaf because he has so much armor penetration, whereas yi has none without gear. On top of that, olaf's ult does what Yi's used to do, make him completely immune to crowd control effects, except Olaf's also gives him armor penetration AND damage reduction.
In conclusion, yi is good at some things, but other champs do it better. A fed yi will win a game, but you have to assume all the champs will play equal when discussing them. I like Yi, but I think he needs to be patched to be really competitive at higher skill levels.
n0t_u wrote:
Also I don't know if you've came across it yet, but solo mid Lux is pretty funny. She's a pretty crappy champ (unfortunately I found out after a half rune page, too much optimism on my part >_> ) but if she solos mid and uses the passive she can hit hard early one. One thing to remember is that her peak for this is only level 6. Pretty disappointing, basically she seems like she's just there for the ult and it doesn't even hit that hard.
Is that the archer girl with the laser beam ulty? I usually step down/up/right/left 1 square when she fires set auto attack, que up boomerang, and they type lolololol in /all as the minions die and gold flows!
Or I can just hit spellsheild and gain 150 mana from it. That works better. Seriously, ultimates with a "you are about to get ownt" graphic are only good for killing folks that can't pay attention to the screen. You know what those are.......
Then again Banshee's Veil + spellsheild = 2 abilities soaked. Its very very nice.
I play Teemo, Blitzcrank, and Heimerdinger. I'm level 13 now. I put 10 dollars into the game so I could get blitz and I'm waiting for a costume to go on sale now. I figured I would help out the company after playing to level 11 for free.
My in game name is shumabot.
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Peter Wiggin wrote:
n0t_u wrote: Also I don't know if you've came across it yet, but solo mid Lux is pretty funny. She's a pretty crappy champ (unfortunately I found out after a half rune page, too much optimism on my part >_> ) but if she solos mid and uses the passive she can hit hard early one. One thing to remember is that her peak for this is only level 6. Pretty disappointing, basically she seems like she's just there for the ult and it doesn't even hit that hard.
Is that the archer girl with the laser beam ulty? I usually step down/up/right/left 1 square when she fires set auto attack, que up boomerang, and they type lolololol in /all as the minions die and gold flows!
It's harder with a good lux as they'll shoot you when you're off screen and don't know its coming. It has no maximum range so they can technically snipe you after you teleport to base if the team is coordinated enough. one of our playgroup is level 30 and mains lux, he's a killing machine with her.
Actually Shuma it does have a maximum range. The aiming marker looks the same as Ashe's but the end is fixed. It fires a decent range but it's not across the map like Ashe.
To give an idea of the range I can stand at the top of the bottom lane, but in the middle, in the Twisted Treeline and shoot straight up, it will reach the bushes of the top lane but not go past them. Unless they changed it since I played as her.
Ashe = Archer with the infinite ranged giant ice arrow.
Lux = The light person with the giant laser and crappy shield boomerang (seriously 300ish AP and it does 100ish for 3 secs, whichever comes first, at 18 that's like a single Ignite tick).
ShumaGorath wrote:Oh hey, I didn't even know this thread was here!
I play Teemo, Blitzcrank, and Heimerdinger. I'm level 13 now. I put 10 dollars into the game so I could get blitz and I'm waiting for a costume to go on sale now. I figured I would help out the company after playing to level 11 for free.
My in game name is shumabot.
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Peter Wiggin wrote:
n0t_u wrote:
Also I don't know if you've came across it yet, but solo mid Lux is pretty funny. She's a pretty crappy champ (unfortunately I found out after a half rune page, too much optimism on my part >_> ) but if she solos mid and uses the passive she can hit hard early one. One thing to remember is that her peak for this is only level 6. Pretty disappointing, basically she seems like she's just there for the ult and it doesn't even hit that hard.
Is that the archer girl with the laser beam ulty? I usually step down/up/right/left 1 square when she fires set auto attack, que up boomerang, and they type lolololol in /all as the minions die and gold flows!
It's harder with a good lux as they'll shoot you when you're off screen and don't know its coming. It has no maximum range so they can technically snipe you after you teleport to base if the team is coordinated enough. one of our playgroup is level 30 and mains lux, he's a killing machine with her.
Actually, her ult does have a max range, it is roughly half the map, not like Ashe's ult.
Also, Lux is a very good champion, but she is very difficult (possibly the most difficult) champ to master. All of her abilities are skillshots. Lets compare her skills to other champions.
Her shield appears to be one of the weakest in the game, absorbing a measely 300~ damage with AP. However, it has the ability to shield the target twice thus, with some decent timing and a little luck, you can shield over 600 damage. Combine this with the fact that it can shield every ally including herself twice, and you easily have the most powerful shield effect in the game, although the most difficult to use. Lux's shield really shines in team fights where you are fight champions like amumu, nunu, or ghalio, who pin your team in place.
Compared to janna's single target, short range shield, Lux's is far dominant in team battles, while janna's is superior for solo/laning.
Lux's snare is also very good. It is exactly the same in every way to morgana's snare, except that it can hit two targets. This is the primary issue with morgana, she needs to land her snare or she wont do any damage to her target, since they will simply walk/flash out of her other spells. The main problem is that a champ who you are laning against will always expect the snare, and just hide behind their minions. Since Lux's snare hits two targets, you can hit the screening minion and still snare the hiding champion, similar to Miss fortune's ricochet ability, although not as easy to use.
Lux's aoe slow/nuke may be her best ability, it is like gragas's exploding barrel...except that it slows everything that is in the aoe and then slows everything that gets hit by the explosion for a couple seconds. This combined with the fact that it reveals the AOE area (thus it can reveal bushes and cloud of war) makes it AMAZING. Excellent ability for farming as well, as the slow effect with "gather" the minions and clump them up, allowing you to hit an entire creep wave with one shot.
Her passive is sort of blah late game, except when combined with her ult. Since she is a support caster, you never want to be too close, so you will seldom get an auto swing off to proc the passive late game.
Lux's ult is awesome. It can hit halfway across the map, and it hits HARD. 500+.85AP = and easy 900 damage with some good late game gear, more even, if you stack it enough. The key with it is to wait until their team commits to the team fight, or get snared by your amumu/nunu/shen/ghalio etc etc etc. Once they go in for the kill, chuck your aoe slow, pop it, then immediately lazer beam. What alot of people dont realize is that the lazer procs her passive, so by dropping her aoe slow, you not only ensure that more enemies will get hit by her ult, but you immediatly add 190 damage to it. This will bring it over 1000dmg with decent ap gear. It also refreshes her passive. The best part is the CD however, 40 seconds stock. That means you can easily drop it to 20 with the golem buff.
Now, the worst part of support casters is that they are generally squishy, and Lux is no exception. She, however, is very different in that, all of her spells can hit while she is off screen. Yes, they have That much range, esp her ult and AOE slow. I have saved so many lives with that slow, enemy team chasing your wounded ally? chuck your slow in front of your ally and leave it there, their team has to run around it (taking longer and giving your ally some extra distance) or run through it and get slowed again saving your ally. I find that they usually just give up when I throw it and go kill some minions elsewhere. Since her spells are so long range, she rarely gets into trouble, and even then, she has double crowdcontrol effects and can shield her allies and herself simultaneously.
I tend to target squishy characters with her, such as MF, twitch, yi, ezreal, as you can easily neutralize these characters with her two hit combo that will put out ~1600dmg easily.
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n0t_u wrote:Actually Shuma it does have a maximum range. The aiming marker looks the same as Ashe's but the end is fixed. It fires a decent range but it's not across the map like Ashe.
To give an idea of the range I can stand at the top of the bottom lane, but in the middle, in the Twisted Treeline and shoot straight up, it will reach the bushes of the top lane but not go past them. Unless they changed it since I played as her.
Ashe = Archer with the infinite ranged giant ice arrow.
Lux = The light person with the giant laser and crappy shield boomerang (seriously 300ish AP and it does 100ish for 3 secs, whichever comes first, at 18 that's like a single Ignite tick).
With 500 AP, it will shield 325 damage on each pass. Remember, it shields twice.
ShumaGorath wrote:Oh hey, I didn't even know this thread was here!
I play Teemo, Blitzcrank, and Heimerdinger. I'm level 13 now. I put 10 dollars into the game so I could get blitz and I'm waiting for a costume to go on sale now. I figured I would help out the company after playing to level 11 for free.
My in game name is shumabot.
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Peter Wiggin wrote:
n0t_u wrote:
Also I don't know if you've came across it yet, but solo mid Lux is pretty funny. She's a pretty crappy champ (unfortunately I found out after a half rune page, too much optimism on my part >_> ) but if she solos mid and uses the passive she can hit hard early one. One thing to remember is that her peak for this is only level 6. Pretty disappointing, basically she seems like she's just there for the ult and it doesn't even hit that hard.
Is that the archer girl with the laser beam ulty? I usually step down/up/right/left 1 square when she fires set auto attack, que up boomerang, and they type lolololol in /all as the minions die and gold flows!
It's harder with a good lux as they'll shoot you when you're off screen and don't know its coming. It has no maximum range so they can technically snipe you after you teleport to base if the team is coordinated enough. one of our playgroup is level 30 and mains lux, he's a killing machine with her.
Yeah, well I'm still at level 18 so meh.
Shumabot added....I figure I can either kill him for arguing with me on the forums, or watch him do something to piss the other guys off. Either way....good game times.
I've also noticed that matches where I time my spellsheilds properly I am really awesome....if not then bleh. Sivir also seems HIGHLY dependant on having a team that will stay commited to a long term harrassment oriented fight...IE I die every time I get focused and my team won't help. Shocking I know!
Example...spellsheilding 2 abilities during a teamfight by running up past the battle line, and scaring them to pop ults. Doesn't work against an organized team though...and there seem to be more and more of those the higher level I get.
Actually, her ult does have a max range, it is roughly half the map, not like Ashe's ult.
Oh, its only half the map. My bad! I've never actually seen it run out of range, but I suppose that when that laser barely missed me on the pad they were firing it from just past midpoint.
Actually, her ult does have a max range, it is roughly half the map, not like Ashe's ult.
Oh, its only half the map. My bad! I've never actually seen it run out of range, but I suppose that when that laser barely missed me on the pad they were firing it from just past midpoint.
Nah, they patched it shorter it seems. It is more like 1/4ish, something like that. Good range and it will catch people off guard.
Peter Wiggin wrote:Hmm, so I bought one of the point cards at Best Buy. 10 bucks for 1300 points doesn't seem like a great deal considering a skin is 975.
Still...not many skinned Sivir's out there.
Just remember that you just payed 10 dollars on a game that you were already playing. Computer games average fifty dollars.
Peter Wiggin wrote:Hmm, so I bought one of the point cards at Best Buy. 10 bucks for 1300 points doesn't seem like a great deal considering a skin is 975.
Still...not many skinned Sivir's out there.
Just remember that you just payed 10 dollars on a game that you were already playing. Computer games average fifty dollars.
Yup. Honestly.....I'm considering buying another card and getting the Hextech Sion skin. Its so biomechanical....which I have a thing for sorta.
PS Shuma got to see me nub it up and be overly aggressive. lol
n0t_u wrote:There's nothing wrong with being overly aggressive if it gets you kills I guess.
I might add some of you once I uncap and can actually play again. Though I did kind of stop in a pretty bad losing streak >_>
Well, Sivir doesn't have enough punch to press a ranged kill midgame unless you snipe with boomerang....which is sneaky and fun, but risky since you probably won't have your core build completed. Even one death makes a huge difference. Most of the time I completely focus on not dying, then rape people up the ass late game. Which requires patience and restraint....not always my strong points.
It also helps to have a competant team when playing a team oriented support character, but its always fun and I don't really care about win/lose in non ranked.
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You should probably throw a tank with better dpsCC then singed in, singed is a great complement to a heavy dps team because of his single target CCs but this team lacks a real damager for big confrontations. I would toss in Nunu or even replace twisted fate with fiddlesticks or karthus. You generally want at least one big aoe dps ulti on a team to make sure that team fights go your way quickly.
Maybe even Amumu or Olaf for the tank. Olaf for the increased DPS and CC. Amumu is good for initiating team fights.
Or even Shen to use that strategy that showed up in a tournament. TF warps to backdoor a tower, Shen warps to him and they take out a tower and retreat before the enemy reacts.
Maybe even Amumu or Olaf for the tank. Olaf for the increased DPS and CC. Amumu is good for initiating team fights.
Amumu is best as a force multiplier, if you can run in and use curse of the sad mummy to root people and follow that up with Nunus absolute Zero and Fiddlesticks' crowstorm or Kenans AOE ult (don't remember the name) you can decisively win large tea fights in a matter of seconds. Without that force to multiply Amumu is somewhat lackluster as a tank.
Nunu is awesome with Blitz by the way.
Blitz is a great tank for multiplying force or holding turrets due to the rocket grab. On more then one occasion I've rocket grabbed people back into crowstorms after power fisting others to make sure they stayed. With the right build he can also solo push turrets startlingly fast and chase down virtually any escaping champ (at 18 with boots of swiftness he averages 490 speed).
ShumaGorath wrote:You should probably throw a tank with better dpsCC then singed in, singed is a great complement to a heavy dps team because of his single target CCs but this team lacks a real damager for big confrontations. I would toss in Nunu or even replace twisted fate with fiddlesticks or karthus. You generally want at least one big aoe dps ulti on a team to make sure that team fights go your way quickly.
I put singed in specifically for teamfighting. The entire team is designed to work together, not solo. Groups of 2+ other than the initial lane phase. Mostly 5 man brutal mid pushes over and over.
Singed with ghost running around hasted with poison trail. Just a crazy idea.
Mumu is an amazing idea. Not sure what spells compliment him though? Replacing Gargas with Mumu due to teamfight synergy.
Hello everybody my name is Andrey.
You may remember me from the most awesome Evelynn guide, and as you might noticed I have a Garen avatar.
You know why?
Because he looks FREAKIN' AWESOME. I mean Garen is the most badass looking champion in LoL.
-Great hairstyle
-Intimidating look
-SCARF!!!
-Awesome sword without bs (rings, strange form etc.)
-The best taunt in the game!
But lately, there are not a lot of Garens in the game. You know why? Because everybody build him WRONG!!! They copy the spotlight video, go critical bs derp derp, then they lose and say "nah, this hero sucks" YOU SUCK!!!
I mean, why in the love of god, gak and feth you want to build him critical? It's not a Trynd or Tristana.
"'cause his judgment can trigger crit, derpderp" Wrong, dude. You judgment already deals a gak ton of damage. And making it more strong is like putting a grenade on a nuclear bomb.
Ok, so I want to present you my Garen guide. The right way.
Amumu would jungle, MF and Annie would solo, garen and ghalio would lane. You get two of the best solos who have massive aoe damage output. Combine it with the well rounded garen who is great at everything - single target, tank, and aoe. Mix it together with two of the best teamfighting ults in the game.
Have Amumu initiate with his bandaid, then ult. MF/garen/annie move in and start dropping their AOE. Ghalio drops his ult after amumu's to ensure the enemy team stays in the kill zone. Nothing will survive this. You get two great tanks and a great mix of AP and AD damage output, mixed with good CC, good carries (garen/MF) and amazing nukes (mf/annie/ghalio). Garen can execute whatever manages to survive.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I know shen is good, but I dont like that he has no damage output except his once-every-ten-seconds passive thing. I would rather have ghalio since he has a better teamfighting ult, and he can nuke at range without having to stack any AP. He is like a magic resist version of malphite.
Annie's bear is cheesedick noob move. Bleh, stop hiding behind bear little girl. Want to play!
I bet she's fun to play!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Using this guide I went 0/4/5 52 4 first game with mumu. OMFG you really get to put people where you want them and initiate like mad with him!
Totally different from Sivir, but very very fun. Dying 4 times sucks, but oh well. Having the Emumu skin is awesome because any time you mess up you can /all Emo mummy is sad. :(
Probably not the best way to use him, but 3500 health Heimer is hilarious to play. Just run in circles around your turrets tossing grenade after grenade. Really fun, plus he has an ALIEN OVERLORD skin.
Svenn wrote:I play every now and then. It's a really good game. It's everything I wanted DotA to be. The fact that I can play completely free is a bonus as well.
is ist still a game based around elitist douchebaggery where any team with a new player pretty much auto loses because not only can he not carry his own weight but he supercharges the opposing team with gold?
Probably not the best way to use him, but 3500 health Heimer is hilarious to play. Just run in circles around your turrets tossing grenade after grenade. Really fun, plus he has an ALIEN OVERLORD skin.
I play AP Heimer, my AP maxes at around 500 by the time the game is done, grenades and rockets deal 650 and 550 while the turrets are doing about 170 a shot. Tank heimers kind of a confusing concept to me.
Svenn wrote:I play every now and then. It's a really good game. It's everything I wanted DotA to be. The fact that I can play completely free is a bonus as well.
is ist still a game based around elitist douchebaggery where any team with a new player pretty much auto loses because not only can he not carry his own weight but he supercharges the opposing team with gold?
Not once you get up in the Summoner Levels. Noobs tend to get weeded out a bit.
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ShumaGorath wrote:
Peter Wiggin wrote:HEIMERTANK!!!!!!!!!
Probably not the best way to use him, but 3500 health Heimer is hilarious to play. Just run in circles around your turrets tossing grenade after grenade. Really fun, plus he has an ALIEN OVERLORD skin.
I play AP Heimer, my AP maxes at around 500 by the time the game is done, grenades and rockets deal 650 and 550 while the turrets are doing about 170 a shot. Tank heimers kind of a confusing concept to me.
He can build a base inside the enemy base. Just sits there running around tossing grenades and spamming /all LOL OMG KILL ME PLZ
Svenn wrote:I play every now and then. It's a really good game. It's everything I wanted DotA to be. The fact that I can play completely free is a bonus as well.
is ist still a game based around elitist douchebaggery where any team with a new player pretty much auto loses because not only can he not carry his own weight but he supercharges the opposing team with gold?
Well considering that unless you're playing in custom, you're automatically playing against people in your ELO bracket, (read: level) if you're new you'll most likely be playing against other new players.
Svenn wrote:I play every now and then. It's a really good game. It's everything I wanted DotA to be. The fact that I can play completely free is a bonus as well.
is ist still a game based around elitist douchebaggery where any team with a new player pretty much auto loses because not only can he not carry his own weight but he supercharges the opposing team with gold?
Not once you get up in the Summoner Levels. Noobs tend to get weeded out a bit.
Prepare to be surprised once you hit 30, the curve actually goes down again. Level != Skill.
I think the matching goes by the average of the team. Because like I mentioned before I started with lvl30 friends in premade. I think the lowest level opponent I got was 15ish.
Premade with people not in your bracket changes the matchup though, if you're playing solo play or with people close to our own level it evens out. Generally though a newb will be comparatively safe up to say level 5, and by then they should be a bit more comfortable with the system and ready to start getting 'serious'.
The leveling system pretty much just relates to how long you have played the game. Either they learn as they go or give up. They're going to be surprised when they reach level 30 only to find that there are probably more bad players than the levels below it. While it does indicate some experience with the game, I've seen enough level 30s do stupid stuff I hadn't seen since level 12 to know that it is mostly a reflection of time spent.
The practice modes are a joke really. The bots are dumb and come with two levels of difficulty New Player (concussed) and Easy (5 year old with shiney stuff nearby). The tutorial itself treats you like you are a complete idiot to the point where you don't really learn anything at all. However the new tutorial they added in called Battle Training is actually pretty decent. The point I'm making is that there are bad players and now a decent amount of ways for them to improve.
It's a team game and if you get a really bad player your team will go into the situation you described. There is no helping that, as it is the same for likely every team based game in existence.
Grundz wrote:Not once you get up in the Summoner Levels. Noobs tend to get weeded out a bit.
I forgot new players weren't something to be taught, they are to be removed, my bad.
Please don't take the text out of context. To clarify, it seems that the screaming, crying, and general immaturity decreases a bit as you pass level 15. If you don't have at least SOME kind of skill, you won't rank up very quickly, plus just the act of leveling gives you experiences with hero's (increasing your skill) and reduces noobishness.
There is ALWAYS a learning curve to games, PVP games especially. Learn from your mistakes, and be cautious. Every game I die alot, its due purely to my own greed or inattention. Game is damn near 100% skill.
An important thing to remember is that its a team game. If you don't play as a unit, move together, fight together, try not to die together (LOL!!!) then you'll fair much better. If you don't, the fedYi will just run around eating your whole team with his lolcrit/movespeed build. TONS of folks do that just to try and force a surrender @ 25.
P.S. Popping Fiddles ulty to port through a wall, then hitting ghost and running around is the best way to make folks gak themselves and run around slowed. Then /all BOO!!! for ultimate win points. To truly screw with them, run towards a wall and flash through it when running away.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Sion is up now...again. Got the Hextech skin (yes, this is digital crack) and accidently started a match with my Fiddle runes/mastery. HOLY CRAP!!!!! Sion with stuns that hit for 500, 4k+ health, magic resistance, magic pen, jesus its crazy.
Xin with stacked lifesteal still ate my face, but it was totally easy to lane against Rhyz and Mumu for the first 20 minutes. <shrug> Will test more, seems to have serious potential.
Rod of Ages
Mercury Treads
Banshee's Veil
Rylia's Scepter
2 optional slots.....if the game isn't over by the time you have Rylia's a Zhyona's Ring would be nuts.
Skilling: Points in sheild when possible, stun when not. Ulty every time available and save CRAP enrage for late game when you actually have the health to tower dive.
Also if you're on a roll with a stealth character like Twitch or Eve somehow (I managed once or twice). It's fun to just hang around with them while stealthed then occasionally do your taunt or laugh. I remember one 5s game I walked around with the enemy team most of the time after the laning phase ended. Basically a free moving ward to let everyone know where they are at all times. The stun also helped with ganks.
Peter - Drop rylai's crystal scepter, it is bad for sion. I know, it gives you health and AP, but the slow effect is only going to apply to his shield explosion, and it wont make much of a difference. Pickup alot more cooldown reduction, like deathfire grasp, it is perfect on him. Not only does it give him good ap and cd reduction, but it also gives him a baller nuke to open up with. You should be able to get him stun down around 2 seconds if you stack CD reduction runes (increasing per level), cd reduction gear, and get golem buff. Now, if you get his stun down between 2 and 3 seconds...that means you opponent has all of 0-1 seconds to kill you between stun nukes, and you will likely have a 800point shield up all the time. o_0
Automatically Appended Next Post: This makes him an AMAZING carry killer, they will never be able to get away from you.
KingKodo wrote:Peter - Drop rylai's crystal scepter, it is bad for sion. I know, it gives you health and AP, but the slow effect is only going to apply to his shield explosion, and it wont make much of a difference. Pickup alot more cooldown reduction, like deathfire grasp, it is perfect on him. Not only does it give him good ap and cd reduction, but it also gives him a baller nuke to open up with. You should be able to get him stun down around 2 seconds if you stack CD reduction runes (increasing per level), cd reduction gear, and get golem buff. Now, if you get his stun down between 2 and 3 seconds...that means you opponent has all of 0-1 seconds to kill you between stun nukes, and you will likely have a 800point shield up all the time. o_0
Automatically Appended Next Post: This makes him an AMAZING carry killer, they will never be able to get away from you.
Yeah, I'm doing Banshee, Merc Treads, then Deathfire right now to see how the build works. Might go Deathfire first. I dunno
Start on Deathfire work til the 25 ap/10gp5 blade, then build Banshee's. Boots then...finially finish the Deathfire. Last few matches have been short, so haven't even gotten to max level.
Without the enervating locket I'm blarging on what to build for blitzcrank. He's so ability intensive, I'm sticking to manamune then boots right now but in his build there are very few ways to recover hp now.
Yeah, Sion runs out of mana pretty quick too. Not sure whether to prioritize Banshee's or the second tier book thing for Deathfire.
Runed for Magic Pen, HP/lvl, and flat CD reduction.
Fun part is that he plays like a nuker early-mid game, but has the surviability of a melee hero. Sadly, the build doesn't synergize with Enrage or Cannibalism very well...however they are such no brainer abilites that its boring as piss to build around them. You retain mobility like this, are a great mid game ganker, and have a stun/AOE (or damage sponge) for use in endgame teamfights.
Seems to be fairly good for solo play. Kinda get wrecked endgame by physical DPS though. As do most folks.
There is also something wrong with the rune recycler. It says I have nothing to use, but there are like 10k IP worth of runes in my bag.
Peter - You should NEVER use flat CD reduction runes. By the time you have multiple abilities to be spamming (thus needing the CD reduction more) the scaling CD reduction runes will have surpassed the flat cd reduction runes. By level 18, the scaling runes will have nearly doubled the flat runes. Late game is when CD reduction really becomes important anyway. I wouldnt build the banshee veil first, get some offense. Kage's dagger is an excellent early game item, as it will pay for itself later on. IMO, pickup the book with mana regen/AP/cd reduction, then boots, then kage's pick, then rod of ages, then finish boots, then zonya's. after zonya's finish the deathsfire grasp and then top it off with whatever the heck you want, prolly banshee's
At the moment, as they have a chance of changing, they are.
Passive: All-Points Bulletin: Whenever an allied champion is slain, Caitlyn gains vision of the killer for a limited time.
Aimed Shot: Caitlyn channels her shot, increasing damage and range over time. If the shot hits, Caitlyn can fire a second shot shortly after, but if it misses, Caitlyn is revealed to the enemy.
Bulletproof: Caitlyn passively resists projectile damage, and can actively double the resistance for a short time. While on cooldown, Caitlyn's movement speed is increased.
Authority of Law: Caitlyn fears an enemy for a short time and is immune to that enemy's debuffs for a time afterwards. If Caitlyn takes damage from her target during that time, her damage and defenses are improved.
The Long Arm: Caitlyn channels for a period of time, then fires a high-speed bullet at a target, getting double the payoff if it kills.
KingKodo wrote:Peter - You should NEVER use flat CD reduction runes. By the time you have multiple abilities to be spamming (thus needing the CD reduction more) the scaling CD reduction runes will have surpassed the flat cd reduction runes. By level 18, the scaling runes will have nearly doubled the flat runes. Late game is when CD reduction really becomes important anyway. I wouldnt build the banshee veil first, get some offense. Kage's dagger is an excellent early game item, as it will pay for itself later on. IMO, pickup the book with mana regen/AP/cd reduction, then boots, then kage's pick, then rod of ages, then finish boots, then zonya's. after zonya's finish the deathsfire grasp and then top it off with whatever the heck you want, prolly banshee's
Good point, I may invest in some CDr/lvl later. I've spent WAY too much on runes lately though. Great point about the late game importance of CDr. Honestly, Sion falls of badly at endgame, so his stun and damage soaking with the shield is really what preserves his viability.
Banshee's is a "must have" item for ANY build. Not only does it give you a great boost in both HP and MP (perfect for mid game, hence it being one of my first 2 core items) but being spell immune every 30 seconds is INSANE. WW can't jump you. Mal can't suppress you in place, Eve can't open up with a stun, the list goes on.
Did a grip of games with Shuma last night, and I've nailed down my build. Its designed for damage soaking, harassment, pushing, and above all....survivability.
Skilling: SHEILD LEVELS EVERY DAMN TIME ITS UP, then stun, then enrage, THEN your ultimate. This build does NOT focus at all on AD, but by the time you are level 18 you'll be more than capable of both tanking a tower, and diving a tower.
Spells: Flash/Teleport
1st purchase: Mana crystal and heal pot/mana pot
2nd purchase: Catalyst
3rd purchase: Build boots
4th purchase: Build Banshee's
5th+ purchase: Build Deathfire.
Thats all. Last 3 slots are situational. Guardian Angel doesn't seem to work real well with Sion, but Force of Nature can be interesting. Lichbane is also hilarious for endgame. You are a stunbot....this is good. PLINK, oh I just melee you for 400, plus I have a shield up and I am running away while my team comes to feed on your half dead ass.
Flash is great for both escaping, and flashing into a tower range (sheilded of course) to knock off a fast stun/explode combo to finish off a low health hero. Takes practice, but you can usually make it without dying to a tower. Also amazing in a teamfight for pinning down an opponent so your DPS can come eat his face. Teleport allows you to be where you need to be when you need to be. As a hero built to survive until your team comes to help you out, this is vital. Tried Ghost, but it was useless for Sion.
Usually I use the mana pot around level 2, the healing pot around level 4. By that point you have a large enough mana pool to spam shield when needed. Stun is a mana pig, so only use it to close a kill or pin someone in place for a team mate. Mostly, its about running around, being big, and soaking enormous amounts of damage. Once you build the Deathfire, you have enough mana and mp5 to really stick in a fight for a LONG time. Long enough for your whole team to show up.
I've also tried a build that uses Kage's Pick as a priority first purchase, but the lack of potions means you can't stay "in lane" as long.....which is bad.
I also use Banshee's on Fiddle and Sivir. Its nuts on Sivir...if you have good reflexes you are basically immune to abilities between it and Spellsheild. Fiddle is just made of sticks, so he desperately needs the health.
I tried Rod of Ages for about 6 games. It was cool, but just didn't seem to have the "punch" that this build does....which is odd considering RoA is AP heavy.
Played a few games with Wiggin, managed to break 1k ability power for the first time, and on Kog Maw to boot. Was dropping dozens of Living Artillery shots at a time into the enemy formation for about 1k per shot. Once that build gets up and running it really becomes overpowering in team fights, I was able to 2 shot their carries from a screenlength away behind cover.
n0t_u wrote:Funny I saw that build on a Karthus once. His ult hit for about 1.3k.
Never understood it as the Archangel Staves don't really stack but it must be doing something.
Guess I have to try it sometime. But I kind of feel like a Rylai's should be thrown in for the slow just to see how it goes.
They stack, they each add 400 mana and provide ap based on total mana. The first provides 1400 with it's unique, the other three provide 1200 total. Together thats 2600 mana + 900~ for ~3500 on casters. Since it uses 3% of your max mana for ability power + 45, and that is not unique, they are adding about 150 each. All six items provide 790 AP +25% for 987. After that I think we may have done baron or something to get me above 1k, or I'm just doing the numbers slightly wrong. I maxed at 1020.
Looking over the item description only the boost per use is unique. Looks like I'll try out this build today.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Just tried it then as Veigar (I like this new rotation). But with some changes, they weren't stacking magic resist so the Void Staff would be fairly useless, which meant I went with Banshee's Veil instead.
At the end I had 1239AP (could of had a lot more but went after creeps to farm gold as fast as I could), about 4k mana, and regenerated roughly 200 per 5 (thanks in part to runes). My ult hit for 500 + the full Ability Power and whatever AP the target had. The main enemy was a LeBlanc with over 500AP. Thats a 2.2k ult, about 400-500 more than my max hp.
To see how much that is the LeBlanc had 32 kills while I only had 13 (but about 400 minion kills). But in the damage graph I dealt about 30k more damage.
Also if you one hit a LeBlanc the passive goes off and the clone appears then dies instantly.
n0t_u wrote:Looking over the item description only the boost per use is unique. Looks like I'll try out this build today.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Just tried it then as Veigar (I like this new rotation). But with some changes, they weren't stacking magic resist so the Void Staff would be fairly useless, which meant I went with Banshee's Veil instead.
At the end I had 1239AP (could of had a lot more but went after creeps to farm gold as fast as I could), about 4k mana, and regenerated roughly 200 per 5 (thanks in part to runes). My ult hit for 500 + the full Ability Power and whatever AP the target had. The main enemy was a LeBlanc with over 500AP. Thats a 2.2k ult, about 400-500 more than my max hp.
To see how much that is the LeBlanc had 32 kills while I only had 13 (but about 400 minion kills). But in the damage graph I dealt about 30k more damage.
Also if you one hit a LeBlanc the passive goes off and the clone appears then dies instantly.
With a similar build nunu can deal 3000 damage in a single absolute zero.
I still have yet to get into working on my builds. With the masteries I mostly have my points in some of the utility stuff. And when it comes to purchases during the game I usually just follow what is suggested.
For quite a few of the champs the suggested build is the best, some need a few items swaped into it. There aren't that many which need a completely new build from scratch.
Nah, I have zero desire to play Karthus actually. I prefer the BANG BANG of Veig and Rhyz's combo.
Sadly, I have really been vulnerable to "DPSOMGBANGBANGWTFIAMDEADAGAIN" syndrome lately. Gonna tidy up a build with some mid game survivability today on Rhyz....get the "Uncle Rhyz" skin, and taunt people with phrases like "I'mma make it rain DOLLARS!", "Accept the truth of capitolism!", and "SPREADING DEMOCRACY WITH GUNS!".
Cause I am a jerk. PS, I also said something so gross in a match that it made my own stomach lurch.
Besides, the easiest way to neuter Karthus is to buy Banshee's. Sivir also lulz @ him.
Peter Wiggin wrote:Nah, I have zero desire to play Karthus actually. I prefer the BANG BANG of Veig and Rhyz's combo.
Sadly, I have really been vulnerable to "DPSOMGBANGBANGWTFIAMDEADAGAIN" syndrome lately. Gonna tidy up a build with some mid game survivability today on Rhyz....get the "Uncle Rhyz" skin, and taunt people with phrases like "I'mma make it rain DOLLARS!", "Accept the truth of capitolism!", and "SPREADING DEMOCRACY WITH GUNS!".
Cause I am a jerk. PS, I also said something so gross in a match that it made my own stomach lurch.
Besides, the easiest way to neuter Karthus is to buy Banshee's. Sivir also lulz @ him.
If you are vulnerable to Karthus' ult then you have already been taking damage. Chances are within the last 30 seconds you were hit by a magic ability which popped the banshees shield. Banshees is good against openers like stuns, it is very bad against finishers like karthus' ult.
Peter Wiggin wrote:Nah, I have zero desire to play Karthus actually. I prefer the BANG BANG of Veig and Rhyz's combo.
Sadly, I have really been vulnerable to "DPSOMGBANGBANGWTFIAMDEADAGAIN" syndrome lately. Gonna tidy up a build with some mid game survivability today on Rhyz....get the "Uncle Rhyz" skin, and taunt people with phrases like "I'mma make it rain DOLLARS!", "Accept the truth of capitolism!", and "SPREADING DEMOCRACY WITH GUNS!".
Cause I am a jerk. PS, I also said something so gross in a match that it made my own stomach lurch.
Besides, the easiest way to neuter Karthus is to buy Banshee's. Sivir also lulz @ him.
If you are vulnerable to Karthus' ult then you have already been taking damage. Chances are within the last 30 seconds you were hit by a magic ability which popped the banshees shield. Banshees is good against openers like stuns, it is very bad against finishers like karthus' ult.
Say what yah will, its kept me alive from his ultimate more than once. Its the best survival item in the game imo, but it is kind of expensive. <shrug>
Just started playin this yesterday and OMG why didnt i start sooner lol.
Tbh i was expecting something along the lines of a free Wow clone where you bought items to help ingame(pretty much perfect world international if yous have played/heard of it), how wrong could i be haha.
The graphics are really nice and i can play max setting with 0 lag(unless somebody is downloading).
Atm i ave both Ashe and Master Yi as bought characters, i have tried Gangplank aswell. Ashe and Gang being on rotation made them worthwhile to try and bought Ashe, after seeing a mate destroy with Master Yi i decided to buy him and try it. Done ok with him but bit slow to get items together, only had phantom dancer by end of the game lol, which i suppose is expected due to me being new.
Username = JScott
Note: gettin the 3 month old message even tho its been just over a month?? Strange. (Sorry if this post is deemed as Thread Necromancy) I felt it did add something new to the thread.
Yeh, I've heard how she is sort of boring but interesting at the same time. Cool mechanics though I guess.
My friend is hating the nerf for Anivia, no more ult spam for creep kills until later in the game.
It's good to see that they have improved the bots though, makes the practice mode an actual practice mode and not just the stupid grind for IP mode it had become.
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Can't wait to get back into it when I get back even though I'll be a bit rusty. My username is same on 
