Okay, sufficient interest was shown over in the other thread for me to organise another tournament towards the end of the year.

Platinum Devil 2 is scheduled for the 18th and 19th of December, at the University of Kent in Canterbury.

Schedule

Saturday

9:30-10:00 - Registration/ Introductions

10:00 -11:00 - Game 1 -500 points Combat Patrol

Mission: Victory Points

Add the points value of whatever you have left on the table to the points value of what your opponents has lost. Add the two together. Then compare the score to your opponents:-

If you have a total of more than 150 more than your opponent: Victory to you
If you have a total of less than 150 below your opponent, you lose.
If you and your opponents scores are within 150 points of each other, the game is a tie.

15 minute break

11:15 -12:45 - Game 2 - 1000 points

Mission: Assassination, Table Quarters

Counts as a standard Annihilation mission, except that HQ choices are worth 3 Kill points, and Elites and Heavy Support Choices 2 Kill Points

45 minute lunch break

1:30- 3:00 - Game 3 - 1000 points

Mission: Seize Ground, Pitched Battle

15 min break

3:15 -5:00 - Game 4 - 1250 points

Mission: Attrition, Table Quarters

This is a kill points based mission. Only troops choices and their dedicated transports are worth kill points. HQ, Elites, Fast Attack, and Heavy Support are not. If a troops choice is killed, it re-enters play at the start of the owning players next turn. The player may choose to bring the unit on at any point along either of the table sides they initially used for deployment. (to clarify this now, in table quarters, you may only use half of each side of the table when deploying. However, when units are re-entering play, they may use the full length of that side of the table). All dedicated transports belonging to a troops choice automatically explode when they receive a 'wrecked' result on the vehicle damage chart.

If you have a Webway portal or Trygon tunnel on the table, your troops may enter play through that instead.
If the squad has a drop pod/mycetic spore, they may only re-enter play with it if the Pod/Spore is destroyed in the same turn. However, Drop Pods and Mycetic Spores do not re-enter play unless the squad that took them is also destroyed, and the squad opts to re-enter play using them.
If a squad has the Deep Strike special rule, they may use that instead.

If a Hades Drill emerges via deep strike, the hole it leaves behind counts as a table edge from that point onwards for the purpose of Engineer Squads or other Hades Breaching Drills. If a Hades Breaching Drill is destroyed, it must re-enter play in an identical way to a troops choice (so it may deep strike again, emerge from a hole already made, or come on from a table side). However, for the second time, it does not need an Engineer squad to be following it.


20 min break

5:20-5:40 - Warhammer 40K bonus quiz!

[b]Sunday

9:30-10:30 - 500 points Combat Patrol

Mission: Victory Points

Add the points value of whatever you have left on the table to the points value of what your opponents has lost. Add the two together. Then compare the score to your opponents:-

If you have a total of more than 150 more than your opponent: Victory to you
If you have a total of less than 150 below your opponent, you lose.
If you and your opponents scores are within 150 points of each other, the game is a tie.

15 min break

10:45-12:30 - 1250 points

Mission: Portal, Table Halves

There are 4 beacons placed on the table by the judges(one in each quarter). Each counts as a holdable objective, and to win a player must control more beacons than his opponent(if they hold the same number, the game is a draw). As a holdable objective, a beacon is contested if there is an enemy unit within 3” of it. Only Troops options may claim objectives. Each beacon has the number 2,3,4, or 5 on the underside.If a model from a non-vehicle unit(except for walkers) moves into base contact with a Beacon, they may choose to activate it. Roll a D6 and apply the following effect:

1:-The unit is lost in the warp and removed from the game
2-5:-Place the unit in base contact with the beacon of the correct corresponding number. If you roll the number of the beacon you just activated, you may choose which beacon to emerge from.
6:-Deep strike the unit to anywhere on the table.

A unit may assault the turn it exits a portal, providing there is a target within range, but does not receive any assault bonuses (so no +1 attack, Furious charge is negated, etc). If a Portal is completely surrounded by models, so that there is no space for a newly teleported unit to be placed, then the surrounding squad must be moved the minimum necessary amount to accommodate the newly teleported squad having a minimum of 1 model placed in base contact with the portal, with the rest of the squad maintaining squad coherency.

Hour lunch break

1:30-3:15 - 1250 points

Mission: Bombardment, Table Halves

There are three objectives placed on each table by the Judge. The winner must hold more objectives than his opponent, to tie on the number held is a draw, to have less is a loss. At the start of each players turn, they receive a single Artillery Bombardment for each objective held by their opponent, to be used at the start of their movement phase. Each Artillery Bombardment has the following profile:-

Range:- Unlimited Strength: 8 AP: 3 Type: Ordnance 1/Barrage


3:15 onwards - Whatever you guys want to do!


[b]Scoring

Nice and simple. 3 points for a Victory, 2 for a draw, 1 for a Loss.

Escalation-Here's how it works!

So when writing out your army list, write out a 500 point list. Standard force chart is modified slightly here, you only need a minmum of 1 Troops choice. However, you cannot take more than 1 each of the HQ, Elites, Fast Attack and Heavy Support slot, or more than 3 troops choices overall.

Then you need to write out your 1000 point list. But here's the catch:- The first 500 points is the 500 points you took for combat patrol. None of those units can be taken out or modified in any way. You cannot upgrade any of the units that were in the original 500 points in any way(so adding weapons, sergeants, etc). The one exception to this is allowing units to purchase dedicated transports. The remaining 500 points must be selected in accordance with the standard force organization chart. In other words, if you only had 1 troops and no HQ choice in your original 500 points, you would now need to purchase them as a minimum.

Then, when writing out your 1250 points list, you add another 250 points worth of units, in accordance with the same restrictions placed when upgrading from 500 to 1000.


You don't need to send me an army list, this is a casual tournament, however, you will be expected to have one on hand to show to your opponent.

Scenario's will published along with the Sunday schedule. Expect to see some of the old favourites making a comeback, and a few new ones!

At the moment, we're looking at a maximum capacity of 24 people. Only Dakkaites may technically take part, however, if you have some friends that want to come, if they're prepared to spend 5 minutes setting up a Dakka account, they're in!

There will be a fee of £6 per entry, as of last time. This allows terrain to be bought and painted, and possibly some prizes this time as well. This needs to be paid in advance by Paypal to Necrofood@hotmail.com
When you make the payment, include your actual name and Dakka username as a note. I'd appreciate it as well if it could be sent as a 'household expense', otherwise Paypal likes to take a cut of about 60-70 pence.
I'd also appreciate PMing me through your Dakka account as well to let me know you've made the payment.

The last winner of Platinum Devil was Panic, who hopefully, will be in attendance this time as well! Let's see if he can defend his title as Dakka's Platinum Devil...



Fandexes, chapter approved, and Imperial Armour lists are permissable, providing I've examined them beforehand. So contact me if there's one you want to use not listed here:-
Currently usable:-All Forgeworld publications, the 5th Edition Kroot List(PM for a link to download).
However!-No flyers may be used. The flyer rules simply complicate games, and I'd prefer to keep this nice and smooth running.

People entered:-

-Ketara/Ben
-Reds8n/Mike
-Snarky/Ian W
-Killkrazy/Richard
-ArbitorIan/Ian G
-SilverMK2/Nathan
-notprop/Nick
-ChrisWWII/Chris
-Tek/ Matt
-the_mcleod/Chris M
-RinkyDink/Mark
-Simon (Ben's friend, along to even out the numbers and the fact ChrisWWII is leaving after a day)

In exchange for his generosity in allowing me to use his name to help book a room(I'd be looking at a £100 deposit), and helping out on the catering aspect of things, Reds8n does, of course, get free entry.

The last Platinum Devil summary can be seen here:- http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/289376.page

Any questions, feel free to ask.

Any discussion on what points or scenarios you'd like to see used, or anything else, discuss here!

The location is the Missing Link Building at the University of Kent, between Darwin Block, CT2 7NY.

So to get entered we just need to send you the money via paypal?

Also, i'll be bringing elysians as per IA8;
Is it ok to bring flying units (i.e thunderbolt) as listed in the IA8 list? Since I know that some people may have problems dealing with flyers (due to their rules).

Essentially yes.

I did specify however, nothing that use the IA flyers rule, it just complicates things infinitely, as it's an addition to the main rules-set. Since not everyone owns imperial armour, it would be unfair to suddenly make them have to play with main rules they've never seen before.

Ah, I missed that part. Looks like no air support for me!

I know this one hasn't happened yet...but when is your next one?
I'm at Canterbury Christ Church (1st year...), and really want to go to some 40k Tournaments, and have only been too one, at my local club in Norwich, and i didn't even use my own army.....But i won't be in Canterbury for this one, because i will be back home :(

Snarky wrote:Ah, I missed that part. Looks like no air support for me!

Well, there's the standard Valkyrie's/Vendettas.

Rodgers, I haven't got another scheduled right now, although I'm roughly planning on holding another one sometime in May next year.

Umm.. what do I do about the paypal fee of 0.40p?

I checked the "Gift" box and it still wants the fee, any ideas how to get around this?

Does it? In that case, don't worry about it, I thought the gift option avoided the fee. If it doesn't, there's not a whole lot we can do.

Well, it is only 0.40p, so i'll pay that. Anyway money has been sent.

One more question, are there any restrictions regarding unbased models? I've left my valk flying bases unbased for ease of transport/ placing troops on it to represent it carrying troops.

To be honest, I don't even care if your army is fully painted or not, let alone based. This is a casual tournament, between fellow Dakkaites, and whilst it would be nice if everything was done perfectly, I'm not going to start issuing guidelines on how much modelling should be done. I recognise some of the older chaps pin down full time jobs, and might not get as much time to paint and base as they might otherwise like.

Having said that, just about every army was painted and based last time, so it seems that most people's modeller's pride will dictate them.

I deliberately use the threat of the impending tournament to force myself to build and paint some models.

I am a definite.

1) I hope to bring a Tyrant's Legion list from IA9. Gonna get started on converting my Astral Claws Retaliators tonight, and I've already made a start on some other things. Also just made a few EBay purchases that will make awesome Auxilia, Armsmen and Marauders.

2) If I can't do that, I might make a low model-count Lamenters jump-pack deep-striker list, but although there would be fewer models, the painting would be harder, so maybe not...

3) Failing that, I already have well over 1500 points of painted Eldar.

I will probably be attending. Unless there is a strong reason for me to do otherwise I will probably be bringing my CSM.

I will wait until the wife decides when she is on holiday (which hopefully will not be too long now) before sending over the cash

If Tek is coming and we are doing doubles or something on the Sunday, I could be persuaded to bring my Eldar instead and partner with him (assuming he wants to partner with me anyway ) - though that would mean painting pretty much my entire Eldar army and learning all the rules

I hope to see everyone there.

^Silver I'm down with that dude! I'll be bringing a flimsy fast list with Vypers, Warp Spiders and other such silliness. I don't play competetively so I'm going to be fielding the models no-one else dares

Learning the rules for Eldar is easy. Move quick, stab people in the back

In that case I'd better get painting

I will be taking Banshees and Harlies, some shining spears and... well... I have no idea

I will have a look at the models I have and see what list I can come up with in the 1,000-1,500 point range.

Ketara wrote:


In exchange for his generosity in allowing me to use his name to help book a room(I'd be looking at a £100 deposit), and helping out on the catering aspect of things, Reds8n does, of course, get free entry.

That's very good of you, but don't worry about it, I'll pony up with the rest of them.

Ok i think i am up for this,

1 question tho, is there anywhere to stay in the area???

whats everyone else doing about hotels??

jim..

I'm in - I'll send over the money ASAP. Depending on what's finished I'll either go with...

- Squats (IG) with some IA drilling equipment
- Harlequins from the 3ed PDF
- Tau with some fancy XV9 Hazard Suits


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Oh, to clarify, are we allowed to bring super-heavies? I'd imagine these come under the same deal as flyers - too complicated...?

If you want to use a super-heavy, tell me which one, and where the rules are. I may make one or two minor adjustments, in regards of points costs, or slots occupied, but I don't see why not.

jimmy72nd wrote:Ok i think i am up for this,

1 question tho, is there anywhere to stay in the area???

whats everyone else doing about hotels??

jim..

Lots of places to stay, possibly even including Campus if Kent lets out halls during holidays like Loughborough does? As for hotels in town, there are lots, as it is a popular tourist destination, but I don't know what that will do to prices as Canterbury Town Centre gets very busy during Christmas. Not sure if that is mainly day-trippers or lots of people holidaying in the area.

Personally, I'll either stay with my Parents or Aunt and Uncle, but sadly I can't extend that invitation to others.

There are various hotels.

http://www.booking.com/searchresults.html?aid=303948;label=canterbury-aFHqx_i0cnApkC6GKRqargS4013670801;sid=408f65b3b79bee80fc8dc46d9b58ffff;city=-2591722

Last time I stayed in the Falstaff which is 600 years old or something. Not too bad though they didn't have their restaurant open in the evenings. It is on the edge of town and has car parking, but is within five minutes walk of the Cathedral.

http://www.thefalstaffincanterbury.com/?S=GADS

It depends how much money you want to spend.

I am going to book at the Falstaff again because the town seems to be filling up a bit already, and I was satisfied with them last time.

Ketara wrote:If you want to use a super-heavy, tell me which one, and where the rules are. I may make one or two minor adjustments, in regards of points costs, or slots occupied, but I don't see why not.

Oh man, I sure do hope he isn't thinking of bring a reaver titan

I just had a thought. In the midst of making myself an objective marker out of an unneeded Space Wolves Lightning Claw, I thought to myself "Hey, I could give this to someone at the Platinum Devil!"

May I suggest that we consider making objective markers to give each other. Not compulsory, but for those who have the time and inclination to do it?

Maybe instead of giving them away, we could bring them along, use them, and then play swapsies afterwards?

I am going to try and make a handful, themed vaguely along the lines of "broken marine equipment".

Fun idea. I'm up for it. It can be voluntary, though, because everyone won't have time.

ArbitorIan wrote:I'm in - I'll send over the money ASAP. Depending on what's finished I'll either go with...
- Squats (IG) with some IA drilling equipment
- Harlequins from the 3ed PDF
- Tau with some fancy XV9 Hazard Suits

Please bring the Yellow Tau. The Orange Eldar need someone to hang out with. ;-)

Paid.

I think it's perfectly justifiable to list Geek Tournaments as a Household Expense for the purposes of paypal - so they don't charge anything....

That gives us 5 people entered for definite so far. If Fifty, Tek, and SilverMK2 all decide to come, we'll have hit our minimum number before we start looking further afield.

I'd like to hold doubles games, but to be frank, there's guarantee the number we end up with will be a multiple of 4. If we end up with say, 10 or 11 players, it won't quite work.

Ketara wrote: we'll have hit our minimum number before we start looking further afield.

So that means you won't kidnap random nerd-like tourists from the U.S. at the air port terminal in order to fill in the remainder of the slots?

Please. Give me some credit....








...we're close to Dover, so it would be at the ferry landing points, not the airport.

I'm pretty sure that I'll be coming. Will ultra confirm it with the wife when I get home and see if I can then navigate PayPal

Pretty certain I can come too. My better half took a while to convince, but, it seems I'm in the clear! - Probably cost me a lot in Chrimbo prezzies though.

I wanted to bring DE, but i'm not sure I'll get them painted up in time, so it looks as if it'll be SM again. (2,500pts worth now, all to gaming standard! Huzzah!)

So if anyone wants to double up in a imperial vs. whoever, then I'm game!

Ketara wrote:That gives us 5 people entered for definite so far. If Fifty, Tek, and SilverMK2 all decide to come, we'll have hit our minimum number before we start looking further afield.

I'd like to hold doubles games, but to be frank, there's guarantee the number we end up with will be a multiple of 4. If we end up with say, 10 or 11 players, it won't quite work.

Good point - surely it would confuse the scoring also?

Hmm...excellent point there Ian, people might get a bit annoyed if they get a bad pairing matchup, and lose as a result. I think for scoring games, I'll keep it as singles.

Do a doubles game or an Apoc game for people who want to play it as a post-comp "fun" game.

I've never played Apoc because I won't pay £30 for the rules, but I would give it a go. I might even be enthused to build my M61A5.

That is a monster tank

I think I will have to bring 2 armies - my CSM to actually play with and my Eldar for the Sunday to have a go with.

Kilkrazy wrote:Do a doubles game or an Apoc game for people who want to play it as a post-comp "fun" game.

I've never played Apoc because I won't pay £30 for the rules, but I would give it a go. I might even be enthused to build my M61A5.

How does the size of that badboy compare to Forgeworld?

If there is a doubles apocalypse game on the second day, is there any chance of having a narrative story for the first day battles? (I mean after we've sorted what armies we have).

Like in many IA books, the battles on the first day can be used to award strategic assets on the apocalypse game the following day.

[i.e. Battle 1 on day 1 awards the Strategic Redeployment strategic asset to the winner for use in the apocalypse game, a draw means no asset is awarded.]

[i.e.2 The narrative story behind it could be that two armies are fighting for a sensor relay or an orbital beacon essential to the assault/defence of the planet]

This way, we can have a sort of pseudo-campaign with a narrative story and a sort of final last stand battle as an apocalypse game.

Wot, no Fantasy?

I'd love to attend one of these events... only I've yet to play a single game of 5th yet :(

I wouldn'y worry about that disty, I hadn't played 5th Ed before the Silver Socrerer event (since 2nd ed!) and got on fine, thanks to the cool people of dakka.

It did show though as I finished 2nd [from last].

notprop wrote:I wouldn'y worry about that disty, I hadn't played 5th Ed before the Silver Socrerer event (since 2nd ed!) and got on fine, thanks to the cool people of dakka.

It did show though as I finished 2nd [from last].

I'd played a few times before SS, but it didn't really show as I was right at the bottom of the table

Me neither.

Had never played Nids before either, it was still good fun and I am going to paint up more stuff for next time.

Snarky, to be frank, I'm actually leaning away from the idea of any sort of complications right now, simply because they are just that. Complications. One of the reasons it ran so smoothly before, I think, was because it was so basic and simple. For example the scoring system was:
Win=3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point.

At the moment, my thoughts are thus.

Day 1

Game 1=500 points combat patrol
Game 2=1000 points
Game 3=1000 points
Game 4=1250 points

Day 2

Game 1=500 points Combat Patrol
Game 2=1250 points
Game 3=1250 points

Then whatever people feel like doing afterwards, as it should be about 3 o'clock. That's time enough for people to squeeze in a large doubles game if they want.

I'd like to hold a 40K trivia quiz over one of the lunches, with a few bonus points up for grabs possibly.

Those are my current inclinations. Nice and simple.

Wow, sounds cool!!! I'm jealous of you Dakka-ites in the UK... but then I guess we'll have DakkaCon here in January, so that appeases my envy a little bit

I'm well up for a quiz. I need a list for each one of those points totals, right? I've never played this crazy escalation game before.

Once we hit 8 people signed and paid up, I'll publish a more exact schedule, and guidelines for lists.

If I can figure out transportation, and there's no major academic thing going on up here, I think I should be able to make it! I'll have to double check though, as I'm not sure when I'm flying back home for Christmas, but provided that I think I'll be able to make it.

Once I've got confirmation, I'll be able to pay. I'll be bringing IG, and assuming Sunday uses Apoc rules (crosses fingers and hopes) I'll be bringing down at least one Baneblade.

I have sent in my monies now.

If people fancy an Apoc on Sunday, I'll bring my Eldar Scorpion. Cobra and Phoenix.

Ketara wrote:Snarky, to be frank, I'm actually leaning away from the idea of any sort of complications right now, simply because they are just that. Complications. One of the reasons it ran so smoothly before, I think, was because it was so basic and simple. For example the scoring system was:
Win=3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point.

At the moment, my thoughts are thus.

Day 1

Game 1=500 points combat patrol
Game 2=1000 points
Game 3=1000 points
Game 4=1250 points

Day 2

Game 1=500 points Combat Patrol
Game 2=1250 points
Game 3=1250 points

Then whatever people feel like doing afterwards, as it should be about 3 o'clock. That's time enough for people to squeeze in a large doubles game if they want.

I'd like to hold a 40K trivia quiz over one of the lunches, with a few bonus points up for grabs possibly.

Those are my current inclinations. Nice and simple.

Yeah, your way seems way better

Would it be possible to attend only on Saturday? I've realized my plane leaves on that Sunday, and I have to be back in Edingburgh by 2p.m. so yeah... Would that be alright?

That'll be fine. Fifty had to do that last time.

I'm paid up now, so list me as a definite please.

Ketara, do you have a post code so that i can locate local lodgings.

Are the contraints on choosing a 500pt for any diferant from a 1000pt force. i.e. I assume that they both follow the basic force allocation chart - 1 x HQ + 2 x Troops?

I've paid.

Are we settled on the points now?

I've worked out I can get to 1,500 without having to resin mould anything, which is a relief as I've never done it before.

I hope it's 1250 points, seeing that's the maximum amount of points I have with me right now.

It is indeed 1250 points. I've outlined a rough schedule, and how escalation and combat patrol work on the first post, if you guys care to go to take a look.

Red, do you reckon you could find a player for the sunday to take over from Chris? That way, we won't be left with uneven players.

..I shall look into it. mentioned it to my "team"... it's really work/family etc etc dependent for them. Push come to shove I'll just "referee", take the pis...er... pictures and document the "event" or somesuch. You had to 2drop out" last time so it's only fair.

You checked your email account yes ?

You checked your email account yes ?

errr....which one for what? I suggest using PM if you need to get in contact with me on the quiet like.

Ben, how do you feel about me using the BOLS Adeptus Arbites mini-dex?

It can be downloaded here - http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2008/11/play-aid-adeptus-arbites-mini-dex-from.html

I see no reason why not, on the following basis:-

-The Chimera entry is removed, and you must use the one listed in the Imperial Guard codex.
-Suppression Shields are downgraded from a 4+ Invulnerable save to a 5+.
-If you want to use a Repressor, you need to bring along Imperial Armour II.
-The Sentinel entry is removed, and you may choose either the regular Sentinel or Armoured Sentinel options from the Imperial Guard Codex instead.
-Cyberhounds do not prevent enemies from outflanking.

If you're happy with those modifications, go to town.

Cool - i might well do - I'll see if I can build a decent force out of that codex and what I've got.

- I don't have any Chimeras - I'll be using Rhinos/Repressors
- I'll bring the IA2 Repressor rules
- I won't be using any Sentinels

Query the Supression Shield thing, though - in both the WH and DH codexes, regular human supression shields are 4+ (Crusader). I don't think there have been any 5+ ones since some much older Marine codices.

Anyway, let's see if I can build an army - if those are all the restrictions, it should be fine...

I'm just not too big on a 13 point model with WS 4, and 2 attacks(shield counts as combat weapon), that are poisoned, and has a bolt pistol and, on top of all that, having a 4+ invulnerable. I just think it's a spot broken, so I'm lowering the invulnerable save to balance it out a spot.

I just remembered that I have tickets for Deadmau5 at Earl's Court on Saturday, and it is an early evening start, so I won't be able to make it to this event :(

If there are still places i think I can swing that weekend off. However the costs for me to get from yorkshire to canterbury and get a hotel for the night is a bit prohibative.

Would anyone be going from the yorkshire area that could car share to cut costs.

Shame to hear that Fifty.

Ceorron, there are still places available, but there's no-one going from Yorkshire that I'm aware of.

Ketara: Doesn't suprise me really, was asking just in case. So I will have to sit this one out.

All paid now. Looking forward to it. Still don't have a list together but rest assured it'll be sweet.

How's the format gonna work with games exactly? I understand how to build my list(s), but unsure how the order or service goes...

ie who plays game 1, game 2 etc? Sorry for being a tourney noob...

Basically, like with with last time, matchups will be determined by me, the tourney organiser. For the first round, I pair everyone up randomly. After that, I pair off the highest scorers for games. If you've already played the person with the closest score to your own, you'll play the person with the next most similar score who you haven't yet faced.

To be honest with you I have issues with the army lists format, especially the way the 500- 1000 points scales.

from my existing list I can choose my troops... and that's it for combat patrol. Wow.. great.. that'll be exciting.

I'd much rather people just had to have a 500 point list, and then -- same army even -- a 1000 point list and then a 1250 one.

well, actually I'd rather not play 500 point games at all ; I don't find them fun at all and, frankly, neither the current rules of codices are really suited for that level.

Ketara - Thanks buddy. Sounds cool.

I've played a few 500pt games before, and I found them to be OK red. I guess it's a matter of taste - I guess at the very least they should be quick?

In that case Red, it's easy enough. Let's take a vote:-

All ye in favour of escalation rules say aye.
All ye in favour of building a different list for each points cost say nay.

nay.

~meh~

nay

I guess I would go with "Aye".

Not hugely keen on escalation matches but I think one where you have to keep the same choices is a bit more interesting and will lead to some unusual lists that people might not otherwise use.

If we could change the equipment of the unit, I'd say aye.

AYE

One of the interesting things about the escalation rules is that different armies do better at different points values.

That gives us two ayes, two nays, and a meh so far. Looks like you may end up being the tie breaker if this trend continues Tek

Best of luck with this, Ketara.

Sadly I won't be able to attend (weekend before christmas with a baby and toddler at home - my wife would do unmentionable things to me... )

It does of course mean I'll have to give some serious thought to Silver Sorceror II next year now

All the best to eveyone who goes.

OOh bugger. I hate making decisions. I had to choose what to have for dinner last night and it look me an hour.

Oh and I just realised - that "meh" post above was my 1000th! Awesome.

I think my army's gonna be better at lower points costs anyhow, so the latter stages aren't my priority as such...

I've never played an escalation event before but would like to give it a go despite the problems I can see for me selecting a list. Mixes things up a bit I imagine.

AYE!

Escalation doesn't work for Tyranids because they don't have any synapse creatures who are single wound models.

The entire army in Combat Patrol will operate under Instinctive Behaviour rules which more or less means the player isn't playing.

The one exception is Genestealers, which don't have instinctive behaviour, however it is very limiting to make 500 points of a 1,250 army as Genestealers. They don't have any shooting, for example.

So I have to say Nay unless some special exception can be made for Tyranids.

If I recall, Warriors can be used, as 2 wounds are allowed. Generally, combat patrol is no 2+ saves, no more than 2 wounds, and no armour value more than 33 combined.

I'll check the exact rules then.

Is that front armour combined?

Also I'm not sure if I like the idea of building on the previous list untouched. I don't mind sticking to the same units for each list, but if we could re-gear each squad for each new list I'd be happier. For instance buying a PF or a lascannon or something.

All armour combined on a single vehicle.

So, a Rhino has a combined AV of 32 (11, 11, 10)

But a Land Raider has 42 (14, 14, 14)

Warriors have three wounds.

if the rule is two wounds I am stuck with a poor selection of units.

Biovore, Pyrovore, Zoeanthrope, Venomthrope, Tyrant Guard all have two wounds. Only the Zoe is a Synapse creature.

The Combat Patrol rules were in 4th weren't they? Any chance of a "summary"being circulated? My 4th edition rulebook is in Japan.

Tyranid warriors have 3Ws in this codex

neither the current rules of codices are really suited for that level.

I skipped 4th edition, so have no idea what is going on

I will PM Ketera my list so he can check it falls within the rules. Well, I will do when I get round to writing one

I have the rules here in fact...

..and now, so do you !

Woo! And also free printing at work

So wait....are we using the Combat Patrol rules only, or are we using the additional rules Ketara posted earlier for the 500 pts game?

Ketara's Combat Patrol rules are the same as the 4th edition Combat Patrol rules.

My concern is that 5th edition Tyranids don't really work in Combat Patrol.

I don't think I can even create a legal Combat Patrol 500 list without just using buckets full of Termagants and Hormagaunts.

There's only one unit in the Tyranid Codex which is Synapse and under 3 W -- the Zoanthrope. I can take one Brood of them as my Elite slot, which means I will have two Zoes. Kill them and the army falls apart.

I won't be able to take any MCs or HQ, which stops me from taking any more Elites.

Then I need to take 76 Gants for my troops. I can't take a Tervigon in Troops because it is a 6W creature.

I only want to take about 20-30 Gants in my army, because my other units -- none of which I can use in Combat Patrol -- are so expensive that I can't spare a lot of points for Gants.

I don't have anywhere near enough Gants to make up the numbers.

To make it clear, while I think the idea is good and fun, it seems difficult to make it work with the Tyranid codex, because they don't have any vehicles and very few support weapons except on 3+ W creatures.

Let's make some special rules for Cary Grant, eh?
It sounds like you're having a pretty tough time dude. I haven't even started thinking about mine yet. Other than war walker or vyper?

that'll be an aye for me

I wouldn't mind so much fielding a horde of Instinctive creatures as long as

A. It is bigger than 500 points, to reflect that fact that it will not be commanded.

It might be quite amusing for everyone to have to fight off a "combat patrol" consisting of about 100 minor Tyranid creatures.

B. I don't have to use the same horde in my proper army.

yeah,
I like the escalation Idea. but,
I don't think we need to apply the combat patrol rules.

If at 1000pts and 1250pts we have to use the same units exactly as already used in the previous round, the first 500pts choices will already be quiet limited...

Also the first game could be at 750pts?

Panic...

That's actually quite a good point. If the escalation idea is generally favoured (as it looks like it is), then using Combat Patrol rules only complicates things.

Could we keep Escalation, start at a low points value like 500 or 750, but just do away with the Combat Patrol thing? So just a general 500/750pt army, with minimum 1HQ and 2Troops etc.

This would also make the 'no changes to squad options' rule more acceptable, as there won't be as many differences between the 'selection criteria' for a 750 pt game or a 1250pt one.

yeah,
I think the 500/750pts game should have a modified FOC because elite armies will struggle to fit 1HQ 2Troops in...

I'd propose;

0-1 HQ
1-6 Troops
0-3 Heavy/Elite/fastAttack

Panic...

Oh balls. I'd love to come to this. I had a wicked time at Silver Sorceror - would be awesome to meet back up with the Dakkites I've already met and to meet new ones!

However, I think it's probably going to be too much of a big, expensive mission for me to get to Kent....


Oh by the way notprop - I think I was wrong about the ordnance rules. Sorry. To be fair, I'd had about 4-5 pints by that time!

You should come along Alb and drag Matty with you, it might be nice for him to game in a civilised part of the country where ther are no Scruffy gypo's to borrow his army for the night!

Re the ordnance, I must have had 4-5 pints as well as I can not recall the issue?

The list writing rules have been modified appropriately. Does this meet with everyones approval?

Looks good to me Ben.

Seems like it mitigates the issues KK raised.

For user ease..

Escalation-Here's how it works!

So when writing out your army list, write out a 500 point list. Standard force chart is modified slightly here, you only need a minimum of 1 Troops choice. However, you cannot take more than 1 each of the HQ, Elites, Fast Attack and Heavy Support slot, or more than 3 troops choices overall.

Then you need to write out your 1000 point list. But here's the catch:- The first 500 points is the 500 points you took for combat patrol. None of those units can be taken out or modified in any way. You cannot upgrade any of the units that were in the original 500 points in any way(so adding weapons, sergeants, etc). The one exception to this is allowing units to purchase dedicated transports. The remaining 500 points must be selected in accordance with the standard force organization chart. In other words, if you only had 1 troops and no HQ choice in your original 500 points, you would now need to purchase them as a minimum.

I still think it would just be easier to have people write a 500 point list -- even using these rules perhaps -- I don't really see how the escalation does anything except leave some players unable to spend the full amount of points and therefore playing at a handicap for no good reason I can think of.

Looks good to me. I assume this means that the AV restrictions have been removed along with the wound ones?

That is correct, all av and wound restrictions have been removed. Red, the reason I kept escalation is because the majority Ayes were in favour. I think the fact it forces you to construct your list a little differently is one of the reasons people like it.

On a side note gents, we have 10 people registered, with another 3 expected to be attending but as of yet unconfirmed, Panic, Rinkydink, and Titan-Princeps should all be attending. That would give us an odd number, but I've arranged for a friend to come in solely for the Saturday, and drop out when Chris does, giving us 14 players on Day 1, and 12 on Day 2.

So, you can take MC's, special characters etc now as well?

*is a bit confused*

(May just be being a bit special)

SilverMK2 wrote:So, you can take MC's, special characters etc now as well?

*is a bit confused*

(May just be being a bit special)

Yes.

The trouble was the 4th Edition Combat Patrol rules cripple the 5th Edition Tyranid Codex. There were some other issues as well.

Ketara, check your paypal account, you've been paid!

Quick question regarding Escalation with Guard.

The rules state that each unit must be equipped identically as we 'go up' points levels. How does this affect Infantry Platoons?

If i have a Platoon of 1 PCS and 2 Infantry Squads, can i add a couple of Heavy Weapon Squads to it in the next size game? An infantry platoon is not a unit, merely a FOC choice which comproses multiple units, so as long as I keep the 1 PCS and Infantry Squads identical, I fulfill the Escalation requirements, correct?


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Actually, this reading does fall in line with the rule that you can add transports - you're not allowed to modify a 'unit', but adding transports is merely adding another unit to the same FOC slot, which IS allowed.

Same with Infantry platoons?

That is correct, you may add squads to an Infantry Platoon. However, you'd be unable to add a plasma gun to a squad to you took in a previous game. The trick is here is that you basically cannot upgrade squads. Adding new ones, or transports, is allowed.

Edited you in Mark.

I'll have the missions and points limits all finalised in the next week, so you chaps can all start list building furiously. As such, if there's any modifications you'd like to see made, now is the time to suggest them.

So the hotel is booked just need the weather sort itself out in the next few weeks.

Hmmmm whats left, oh yes an army that works on multiple points and the odd (lots of) painting!

Do we have a postcode/address/etc so that we know where we are going?

I need something for my satnav to guide me with

Also, there is no way I will be able to paint up my Eldar in time, so I will be bringing my CSM instead (hey, at least I have played with them before ).

The building we're playing in is just behind Darwin College, postcode for that is CT2 7NY.

Cheers reds8n.

Edit: I assume there is parking available? Any idea of costs on that if it is metered?

There is, it will be free.

Woo!

More money for buying pizza for the pizza gods then

.... damn it, I could have cleaned up there quite nicely A pox on you honesty !

I might be able to sacrifice a slice

Nuts! I did that wrong, I don't think that I could be any further away from the venue!

Red, is the parking reasonable secure? Can a car be left overnight there?

notprop wrote:So the hotel is booked just need the weather sort itself out in the next few weeks.

Hmmmm whats left, oh yes an army that works on multiple points and the odd (lots of) painting!

Me too.

I got quite a bit done over the weekend though.

My Tervigon is going to be awesome.

reds8n wrote: The building we're playing in is just behind Darwin College, postcode for that is CT2 7NY.

I can't count how many times I get lost in Darwin College. Will we be in those hidden seminar rooms that are incredibly hard to find?

We're in the "Missing Link" building which is directly behind Darwin college, PoP to find.

..well...that said, lots of students seem to have issues but... bet you found the bar anyway eh ?

Red, is the parking reasonable secure? Can a car be left overnight there?

Fairly IMO, push comes to shove my house is not far, you can park out there if needs be.

Just written my list(s). Hopefully they will be fun to play with (and against).

Also uses many of my painted units/models so I don't have to do tonnes of stuff at the last minute, yet still has a few models I need to paint/finish off just so I have something to do

Hi Guys,

I live in Canterbury (10 mins from UKC), any chance I could come up as a spectator?

I would love to play but I dont have enough painted troops to participate.

Are any of you playing 40k regularly locally?

Adam

Well, assuming you don't become some incredibly annoying forum member whom we all hate I guess it'd be alright.

I work at the uni and live close to it as well.

lol...well thats ok then :-)

I will drop you a PM my friend.

Adam

Just to let you chaps know, some Mission info is on the first few pages. 3 standard missions, 2 missions resurrected from the last Platinum Devil, and 2 entirely new ones. More info will be updated there over the next week.....

I also have the prizes sorted out, so there's is support for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place. It's not much, but it's something.

Mmmm.. missiony

Due to a squad of Dire Avengers costing 152 points, I am at 502 points for the first game. I just want to check if this is cool, or should I try to cut those two points down?

It's fine with me.

Pft, I am under pointed at both 500 and 1000

Think I am close to (or on) the limit at 1250 though.

Silver, I'll buy you a pint if you shut up

I don't drink, so there

La la lar lar lah!

SilverMK2 wrote:I don't drink,

*bans instantly*

We have standards to maintain. They might be low, slumped even, but we have them.

For the record Mr. Tek is using a old issue of the Marvel UK Transformers comic as his avatar. That pretty much gives him free reign to do as he will. The world over.

Haha

How do you feel about the (relatively new) Transformers Animated? I have a shelf unit full of Transformers from that cartoon if that helps my case at all.

Youre just digging yourself in further now. Anything Post "Beast Wars" is a sin.

I watched Beast Wars as a kid. My wife also has 2 copies of the original Transformers movie, all the original cartoons, as well as some crazy Japanese Transformers cartoons (Head Masters?) - the dubbing on which makes no sense (Daniel is "Mr Sparkle", and one of the Transformers is called "Phillip" ).

Her brother has, I think, most of the G1 transformers too.

Besides which, baseball is rubbish rounders

.so, basically, you're now telling us that your wife is cooler than you ?

No, I'm basically trying to piggyback on her cool

.... boy, did I misread that post for a moment there

Sounds like you bagged yourself a keeper anyway.

... so we're cool with Mr. tek being 2 points over then yes ?

You'll have to run it by your first/fifth round opponents first, but if they're okay with it, I am too.

reds8n wrote:.... boy, did I misread that post for a moment there

Sounds like you bagged yourself a keeper anyway.

... so we're cool with Mr. tek being 2 points over then yes ?

Well, I seem to remember I am 40 points under at 500 points, so another 2 points isn't going to make much of a difference

Is it possible to wait for the result befre consenting to the extra points?

Umm, I'm having some travel issues, and since I'm lazy I figured I'd ask dakka first. So, I'm trying to book my train through my university travel service, and they're coming up with 3 stations in Canterbury. Any ideas which one is closest to the venue?

please don't try and avoid the swear filter like that please. ta.

Hmm.. we only have 2 stations though !

Canterbury West is the closest one, but it is very, very easy to get to pretty much anywhere in the area from either.

If you still get stuck, give us a shout and I'll "meet and greet" you and get you where you're going.

Oki then. Canterbury West it is! I'll be booking my train tomorrow, and praying that I don't get stuck up here....

It's more convinient to take Canterbury East and then take the unibus up, the bus station for the unibus is literally right outside Canterbury East, whilst you have a small trek to the university (or even the bus stop) from Canterbury West.

err... not really.

You can get the uni bus from the St. Dunstans/Westgate stop opposite the Bishops Finger, which is right by Canterbury west. If you go to East then you'll have to walk to the bus station which, whilst fairly close, is much further.

You could maybe sue the stop on the ringroad, up past the garage, but that stop is often out of use at the moment due to works and the like. Cheaper from Westgate as well.

As Red said, Canterbury West is probably easiest, it's a straight walk up the Darwin footpath from there. If hiiking up a hill doesn't suit your temperament, there are buses on the main road three minutes walk from the station up to the uni.

Sounds good to me. Thanks guys!

SilverMK2 wrote:I don't drink

OK well then I'll buy you a pint of tea? lol - to be completely honest with you (and other posters) I'm pretty much going out of my way to play the least competetive list I can. My list is all about fun, and hopefully anoying my opponent. In honesty, is was 50 points over the actual force itself would still suck

reds8n wrote:For the record Mr. Tek is using a old issue of the Marvel UK Transformers comic as his avatar. That pretty much gives him free reign to do as he will. The world over.

Agreed. I don't have enough of them as it turns out these things are worth a pretty penny in good nick these days. I have a few though, and plan on one day owning a full run.

SilverMK2 wrote:How do you feel about the (relatively new) Transformers Animated? I have a shelf unit full of Transformers from that cartoon if that helps my case at all.

Honestly, I think every animated series since the original has been pants. If Peter Cullen isn't voicing Prime, I don't wanna know. The new series, aptly named Transformers: Prime looks intriguing.

reds8n wrote:Youre just digging yourself in further now. Anything Post "Beast Wars" is a sin.

^Agreed fo' sho'. Beast Machines was good, the japanese Beast Wars II series was pretty mad. Worth a watch for any true TF nerd.

SilverMK2 wrote:I watched Beast Wars as a kid. My wife also has 2 copies of the original Transformers movie, all the original cartoons, as well as some crazy Japanese Transformers cartoons (Head Masters?) - the dubbing on which makes no sense (Daniel is "Mr Sparkle", and one of the Transformers is called "Phillip" ).

Her brother has, I think, most of the G1 transformers too.

You can't beat Transformers: The Movie. I watched it the other weekend with some buddies. Super-great stuff. I have Headmasters, Victory and Masterforce on DVD too. Missing Zone, but I'm nearly there. To understand the Japanese Transformers properly, you have to watch them in japanese with the subtitles. The dubbing was done by a Korean TV station on the cheap and really leaves a lot to be desired. The subs were done more recently and make a lot more sense. That said, some of the Japanese TFs still have wierd names - for instance, Alan and Leaf. At last count I have 140 G1 Transformers, 1984-1992. Oh dear this thread seems to have come apart at the seams.

Tek wrote: OK well then I'll buy you a pint of tea? lol - to be completely honest with you (and other posters) I'm pretty much going out of my way to play the least competetive list I can. My list is all about fun, and hopefully anoying my opponent. In honesty, is was 50 points over the actual force itself would still suck

Haha, I don't drink tea either

Some pepsi would be fine though

And I just suck - since I virtually never play my list is pretty much just units I like (and have painted). Don't think it will do very well against most armies, but hey, I like the units

You can't beat Transformers: The Movie. I watched it the other weekend with some buddies. Super-great stuff. I have Headmasters, Victory and Masterforce on DVD too. Missing Zone, but I'm nearly there. To understand the Japanese Transformers properly, you have to watch them in japanese with the subtitles. The dubbing was done by a Korean TV station on the cheap and really leaves a lot to be desired. The subs were done more recently and make a lot more sense. That said, some of the Japanese TFs still have wierd names - for instance, Alan and Leaf. At last count I have 140 G1 Transformers, 1984-1992. Oh dear this thread seems to have come apart at the seams.

I watched Headmasters with the subs - we put the dub on for laughs

"Hold the powerpack above your head!"
Grimlock's voice freaks me out in those.

Pepsi it is, Silver. Same here really, I'm mainly using units I don't normally play, and hopefully-hopefully I'll have finished my Shining Spears by the time the tourny comes around, and that will be their gaming debut. Of course this most likely means they'll be horribly crushed within seconds, but here's hoping otherwise. Also, FYI, my 1250 list is 5 points under, so it balances out. I sure hope the next Eldar 'dex has neater point distribution. I was SM, I could just give someone a melta bomb.

Looking at the missions so far, my army is pretty much boned

Ah well...

Mainly towards Mr. ketara here, but feel free to chime in :

Term ends of course the day before, so a lot of the campis will be shut. To that end the only catering outlets are

Looks like the following; not a lot but there is somewhere to go for food and drink



Sat 19th = Rutherford for breakfast 0800 – 0930 / Gulbenkian 1200 – 2200

Sun 19th = Gulbenkian 1200 - 1600

Not sure about the Su shop, I think it's open but....

Might be best if we made a supply run perhaps then ?

...Please say there's some kind of food open late~ish in town? My train isarriving late on Friday, and I'm not sure what'll be open for food.

..it's a city, there's a whole ton of food places that should be open.

Initial query does have the SU shop open on both Sat and Sun.

Sorry...when I first arrived here I had a lot of trouble finding places still open for dinner once it got past like 10 at night...so yeah, I just wanted to check. Thanks though.

Cheers for the help on this end red, I was meanign to shoot off a PM about this sort of thing over the next few days. Beat me to the punch.

I've only been into the Gulbenkian cafe once or twice, it struck me as more of a coffee shop than an eatery. Do they serve actual meals there, or is my vague memory correct? If they serve meals, we should be fine, if not, we'll order in some pizza I guess. Or use the shop, whichever seems more convenient.

Do you reckon you could lay hands on some trays again for people to shuffle their stuff around with? They came in damned handy last time.

As for late night places Chris, there's always the Ocakbasi of Kent, although I'm not sure I'd wish that on anyone....

Does normally do food, again it'd be best to check beforehand as I don't know about this on weekends.

Trays I can do/get, ideally I'll organise them beforehand this time.

I have a quick question. I really want to try and run power blob Guard, but I don't have the models. Not to mention I've put vox casters on all my squads just so they look cool....

If I made everything a genralization across the entire army (aka, ALL infantry sergeants have power weapons. NONE of the vox casters are real, etc.) would people be ok with that?

^Provided your guidelines are that clear, I don't have a problem with it. I have a couple of counts-as too, but they're fairly self-explainatory.

Sure. No problem with counts as generally speaking, heck, I'm using a zeppelin as a vendetta!

This is such an easy going and laid back tournie that there shouldn't be any problems with this kind of thing. As long as you're not using a squig to count as a Battlewagon, or a coke can as Marneus Calgar, you're pretty good to go to be honest.

What about my coke can drop pods and bottle-top marines?

This is good news as I had assume that this would be the case and didn't want to have to cut chainswords off at the last minute.

One other question Ben not quite covered before; Is it okay to add vehicles to squadrons as you escalate in PV?

In the same way you can add squads to an Imperial Guard Platoon, you may add vehicles to a squadron, that is correct. You would not be able to add or remove upgrades to vehicles already in the squadron though.

Just as a note, I know a number of you are coming to Platinum Devil for the first time, so if you'd like my phone number in case of any travel issues, feel free to PM me for it.

OK, so hotels booked for Me, Panic and TitanPrinceps, so we're all coming for definite! In Brad's fancy car, with a boot full of spare scenery. (Actually, if Brad and Gary haven't confirmed yet, take this as confirmed!)

Next thing - what do I bring? I was gonna update my militia guard, but I've only got part of next week so I may not have time.

Any chance of a roll call of what armies are going to be present? Since I have quite a few, I'll happily bring something that nobody else is bringing, just for the sake of variety.

Chaos marines for me.

..I've also got scenery available if needs be.

Chaos marines for me too.

Cheers Ian-they actually haven't been in contact at all, so I didn't know whether they were stopping off or not!

Ketara-Guard
Tek-Eldar
Snarky-Forgeworld Elysians
SilverMK2-CSM
Fifty-Forgeworld Tyrants Legion/Lamenters Jump pack List/Eldar
RinkyDink-Space Marines/Dark Eldar
Killkrazy-Tyranids
ChrisWWII-Imperial Guard
Reds8n-CSM
not prop-Guard

That's the known list so far. What are Gary and Brad bringing?

You can add Guard for me as well.

Ian just don't bring those bloody demons please [and by that I mean very nice but covered in the blood of my less than competent forces].

Ketara wrote:Cheers Ian-they actually haven't been in contact at all, so I didn't know whether they were stopping off or not!

Ketara-Guard
Tek-Eldar
Snarky-Forgeworld Elysians
SilverMK2-CSM
Fifty-Forgeworld Tyrants Legion/Lamenters Jump pack List/Eldar
RinkyDink-Space Marines/Dark Eldar
Killkrazy-Tyranids
ChrisWWII-Imperial Guard
Reds8n-CSM
not prop-Guard
Bens friend-Space Marines

That's the known list so far. What are Gary and Brad bringing?

That gives us so far....

4 Guard(with 1 forgeworld elysian)
2 CSM
1 Eldar
1 Tyranid
1 Space Marine

for definite out of 14 players.

By the way...I know the rules say we can't uprgrade squads, but can we downgrade them?

Nope. All squads taken must remain as is.

Oki then. I realized after I posted I didn't need to anyway, but still good to know.

It's quite possible I may be bringing my Krieg army instead due to the rules being more simple (and the fact I can just carry with me a few sheets of paper rather than a big heavy book!) It all depends if I can power paint 30 Engineers over the weekend though

You can do it!!

I'm power painting an MC, four mid-sized creatures and 30 Gants over the weekend, plus a bunch of terrain pieces and five objective markers.

Scottie, who I'm bringing with me (his actual name is Chris and his dakka handle is the_mcleod) is playing Dark Angels. Bless him. I'm trying to convince him to speedpaint up a Deathwing army, as that would rule.

He hasn't posted yet as he works crazy hours and hopefully spends all his spare time painting deathwing.

Ketara wrote:Cheers Ian-they actually haven't been in contact at all, so I didn't know whether they were stopping off or not!

Ketara-Guard
Tek-Eldar
Snarky-Forgeworld Elysians
SilverMK2-CSM
Fifty-Forgeworld Tyrants Legion/Lamenters Jump pack List/Eldar
RinkyDink-Space Marines/Dark Eldar
Killkrazy-Tyranids
ChrisWWII-Imperial Guard
Reds8n-CSM
not prop-Guard

That's the known list so far. What are Gary and Brad bringing?

Ahh, I'll poke them.

They are both coming - thought Gary was talking about bringing something different to his Grots this time. I assume they are...

Panic - Nurgle CSM
TitanPrinceps - Mech Guard

So, I'm a bit sick of Daemons at the mo. It seems the choices for me are Arbites, Tau, Necrons, Space Wolves or Blood Angels. Anything else is already covered. All of them require a week's work to get finished, so I gotta decide soon!

And I thought someone was bringing Kroot??

yeah,
I'll be bringing grots again so they can defend their crown!
Plus it might encourage me to make a new warboss or paint a second Deffdread or sumfink.
Ketara, I'll sort out payment tomorrow.

Panic...

That gives us:

Ketara-Guard
Tek-Eldar
Snarky-Forgeworld Elysians
SilverMK2-CSM
Fifty-Forgeworld Tyrants Legion/Lamenters Jump pack List/Eldar
RinkyDink-Space Marines
Killkrazy-Tyranids
ChrisWWII-Imperial Guard
Reds8n-CSM
not prop-Guard
Panic-Orks
The Mcleod- Dark Angels
Titanprinceps-Imperial Guard

5 Imperial Guard
2 Chaos Space Marine
2 Space Marine
1 Dark Angels
1 Tyranids
1 Orks
1 Eldar

and 1 unspecified (Fifty). Seems like a relative mix, although the preponderance toward Guard is mildly scary.
Hopefully, I'll have my new Dark Eldar up and running by the time the third and final Platinum Devil rolls around next May!

The race is on to see if I can finish my army for next weekend!

I completed 40 snake type Termagants today, and they are being run through the dishwasher right now, in preparation for priming.

Meanwhile my various other new creatures have been primed and will get the first of three basic paint colours after I've had my supper.

I aim to prime the Gants before bedtime, then tomorrow there will be an orgy of painting and varnishing!!

Ketara wrote:If you want to use a super-heavy, tell me which one, and where the rules are. I may make one or two minor adjustments, in regards of points costs, or slots occupied, but I don't see why not.

....Baneblade?

By the way, I've got my list written. I know we're not required to show them, but I figure I might as well make mine available for general viewing.

707th Lubyan Aquilla Banner Shock Regiment, Battlegroup Devil

Enjoy!

gah.. I'm still trying to decide whether to finish painting 20 engineers or an additional 3 valkyries!

Decisions, decisions....

Snarky wrote:gah.. I'm still trying to decide whether to finish painting 20 engineers or an additional 3 valkyries!

Decisions, decisions....

Definitely the Engineers...

Right, finished painting!

I still have to do the varnish and base decoration.

Nuts, I wish I could say that!

This week promises late nights and much candle burning for me!

QFT - three Shining Spears, three War Walkers and two Wave Serpents still need painting! AARRGH!

Snarky wrote:gah.. I'm still trying to decide whether to finish painting 20 engineers or an additional 3 valkyries!

Decisions, decisions....

The Engineers. Less effort.

You know gents, if you show up with one or two items not painted, I'm pretty sure no-one will mind.

I'll Mind.

We are hobby fanatics.

Ketara wrote:... if you show up with one or two items not painted, I'm pretty sure no-one will mind.

Tek wrote:I'll Mind.

Kilkrazy wrote:We are hobby fanatics.

yeah,
I'll mind,
I demand that all unpainted models are at -1Av or -1Sv !

Panic...

heh.. Looks like the krieg are coming out to play this weekend then...

Luckily I already have a coat of paint on my tanks already.

I protest sir!

As the Win-at-all-Costs player I clearly am, denoted by my use of an undercoated only max-ed out net list, I demand no punishment for the non-painted!

It is offensive that in this day and age we feel the need to descriminate on the basis of colour.

That being said as a guard player the -1Sv doesn't bother me, I don't think we have them.

Oh no! My event has been taken over by the Dakka Casual Gaming Mafia! Should I now expect H.B.M.C. to swagger in mid day Godfather style?

Ketara - you got a PM :-)

Adam

Hmm... does anybody mind about certain types of proxying? I want to take grenadiers for my krieg list, but unfortunately, I won't be able to get any grenadiers until the week after (damn you forgeworld!).

Therefore, would anybody mind if I use standard kriegsmen (appropriately armed and armoured) as the grenadiers?

EDIT:// It's only going to be a small 5 man squad to fill out my last 100 points in the 1250 list.

I have no idea of the difference (in terms of looks or gameplay) anyway, so I don't mind, so long as you fill me in if and when we play

SilverMK2 wrote:I have no idea of the difference (in terms of looks or gameplay) anyway, so I don't mind, so long as you fill me in if and when we play

Basically, they have carapace armour and hotshot lasguns. So really, the only thing that they don't have is a large metal plate strapped to their chest and a power pack. (they do have a regular back pack however.) all special weapons i'm taking will be appropriately modelled however.

If you paint alittle mark on the base or something, so they're easily differentiated from the standard Guardsmen, I don't see it being a problem.

As long as it looks like a las weapon then I'm cool with it.

It's only really the " this flamer is a plasma gun, this ogryn is a rough rider serg., these auto cannons are missile launchers " kind of proxying is worth getting bothered about, and even then just as it helps avoid awkwardness between people who don't know each other all that well.

Ketara wrote:If you paint alittle mark on the base or something, so they're easily differentiated from the standard Guardsmen, I don't see it being a problem.

Heh, i'm running an engineer company, I have no standard guardsmen xD


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reds8n wrote:As long as it looks like a las weapon then I'm cool with it.

It's only really the " this flamer is a plasma gun, this ogryn is a rough rider serg., these auto cannons are missile launchers " kind of proxying is worth getting bothered about, and even then just as it helps avoid awkwardness between people who don't know each other all that well.

It's not going to be anything silly like that, the only thing that will be count as is *carapace armour, and lasguns as *hotshot lasguns. flamers will be modelled as flamers. Oh, and the most important thing gas masks will be counted as *gas masks with skulls.

..so... what are people's preferences with regards to Saturday evening then.

Last time we finished at the Uni, people popped back to hotels, houses, etc etc and then we all met up downtown for a few bevvies and grabbed some food.


People still up for that then ?

I ask as if we do go to eat somewhere, I might need to give a heads up or check prior to the event, to make sure they can feed/seat us all.

We could eat at the pub were we ate last time .. although they have changed the pies a bit ...

http://www.nicholsonspubs.co.uk/theoldbuttermarketcanterbury/food/

Or there's also "Chom Chom's" -- which is where we wnt and had a few rounds of cocktails after we'd eaten. They do fusion style food, it's a bit mroe expensive but is also all you can eat .. the quality is actually alright though, fret not.

http://www.chomchom.co.uk/about.html

I'm probably going to be heading back as soon as the days events are over (as I have about an hours drive each way).

So I will try and be social during the day

Fair enough.

..although we'll all totally bitch about you then behind your back !

But that's handy to know still, cheers fella.

Uh, I just noticed my name is still on the list... I had to pull out a few pages back when I realised I already had tickets for Deadmau5 at Earl's Court that weekend. Sorry.

Ah, sorry about that fifty. Don't worry, your name is just on the who's playing what army list, not the actual tournament entry list. My mistake there.

As long as I can make it to the train station by 8:25, I'm down for anything as far as meet ups/food.

Guys, if its any use........

If anybody needs a pick up from the train / bus station and or lift to UKC let me know by PM...I have a vehicle lol

I am a late substitution...so will see you all Saturday.

Adam

.. I take it you mean 20;25 yes ?

I must confess to some confusion as to your particular arrangements for this weekend.

...sorry, American time arrangement. Yeah, I mean 20:25/8:25 p.m.

It's weird. I'm down for Saturday then catch a train back up to Edinburgh for my flight back home for Christmas leaving on Sunday . x.x

..so, sorry, you are or aren't here for Sunday then ?

I will not be around for the tournament on Sunday, unfortunately. I've talked to Ketara about this earlier in the thread, and he said he'd have someone come in to take my place.

Gotcha.

..might be a bit tight to grab food before you leave then, but we'll have a few swift jars at least then. Assuming you're leaving from Canterbury West, then I guess we'll meet initially at the Bishops Finger then.

Solves that one anyway.

All right.

I am staying at The Falstaff just outside the West Gate and can give three to four people a lift to/from the university on Saturday morning/evening/Sunday, as long as they can meet me somewhere convenient. PM me if interested.

ChrisWWII wrote:I will not be around for the tournament on Sunday, unfortunately. I've talked to Ketara about this earlier in the thread, and he said he'd have someone come in to take my place.

Basically, we start the day with 14 players, and then drop down to 12 for the Sunday. Lovepug is playing on the Saturday only, in order to balance things out.

Oh jeez. Last night I tried speed-painting my War Walkers whilst watching the Shawshank Redemption. My plan was to have all three done by the time the movie was over.

They look awful, I'm going to have to redo them. This is gonna be tight man! Power-hobbying ftw.

Haha, I know the feeling.

I used to look down on dipping as not very good practice, but this week it shall become my favoured technique!


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Oh, Ben. More questions. (I'm going for Tau, just because nobody else is bringing them, but it's REALLY difficult to fit the army into 500, 1000 etc.)

- Will we have missions by the end of the week? (Or, are there any normal KP ones? Or are you sticking to alloted/special KP variations?)

- Can a Tau Commander add a Crisis Bodyguard unit in the next points jump. Is this the same as adding a dedicated Transport, or does it count as 'changing the squad'. They have separate listings in the HQ section of the Tau codex, but obviously the Bodyguard unit can only be taken with a commander.

notprop wrote:Haha, I know the feeling.

I used to look down on dipping as not very good practice, but this week it shall become my favoured technique!


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It is by the power of magic dip that I was able to shade and varnish 40 Termagants in half an hour last night.

It takes longer to assemble the models than to paint and shade them, using my production line process.

Spent all morning pinning 5 metal models that just would not stay together.

*shakes fist at metal models*

Though I only have 10.5 models to paint, which is a good thing.

If I get them done (very slow painter) then I might add a bit more weathering to my vehicles.

^Fethers! I'm going to try and get a Micron pen I think. That may well speed up the process. I ran out of black wash too, so I'm in a very bad way. I may abandon the Shining Spears and run Warp Spiders instead - at the very lest they're painted.

I reckon I'll be painting the Serpents in the car, on the way down ;-)

My poor Guardsmen are going to look like crap next to all these other awesome looking armies... .

Chris, believe me when I tell you that much last minute effort does not equal awesome looking armies. A fact that I shall prove beyond doubt with my guardmen.

I will just declare myself a power gamer that doesn't need a well painted force because my "game" is what I am all about.

When this proves to also be a fallacy I will drink you all under the table and do a victory samba with all of the warhammer groupies that will surely be attending this event.

It’s always about the groupies

ArbitorIan wrote:Oh, Ben. More questions. (I'm going for Tau, just because nobody else is bringing them, but it's REALLY difficult to fit the army into 500, 1000 etc.)

- Will we have missions by the end of the week? (Or, are there any normal KP ones? Or are you sticking to alloted/special KP variations?)

- Can a Tau Commander add a Crisis Bodyguard unit in the next points jump. Is this the same as adding a dedicated Transport, or does it count as 'changing the squad'. They have separate listings in the HQ section of the Tau codex, but obviously the Bodyguard unit can only be taken with a commander.

1. The new missions are up now! I just added them.

Attrition penalises those who go out of their way to gain advantage in Assassination, and Bombardment allows the losing player to gain a little extra edge in holding objectives, making things a leetle more interesting.

2. Yes you may. I would treat the adding of Honour Guard, Dark Eldar retinues and so on as the same, its adding a new unit, even if you attach them to an independent character.

hmm.. I smell battlemissions.

Also, how do my engineers work in this case? Do they come on where my breaching drill made a hole or do they walk on from the table after they die?

Snarky wrote:hmm.. I smell battlemissions.

Also, how do my engineers work in this case? Do they come on where my breaching drill made a hole or do they walk on from the table after they die?

Errr......I actually have no idea how your engineers work. However, presuming its the same as a Dark Eldar webway portal, and reserves would usually be able to enter through the 'hole,' then they would be able to. If its similar to a drop pod however, then they would only be able to use the effect again if the breaching drill was destroyed in the same turn. If the drill comes equipment for the squad and not as a separate vehicle, then you would be able to use the effect again and deep strike (I'm presuming that's how it works) anywhere on the table.

EDIT: I've just added those clarifications to the mission description.

Well, here's how engineers work:

The drill automatically arrives on turn 2. It may pop up anywhere via the deep strike rules, and smashes anything that's in it's way when it pops up (similiar to the tyranid beasty)

It then leaves a hole behind, which the engineers may choose to come up from any time after (you don't roll for reserves, you simply choose when they pop up -i.e. the engineers are simply waiting in the tunnel)

So it works a bit like the Mawloc (is this right?). I'll bring a FAQ with some of the clarifications with me on the day.

Also for some general viewing, here's the Krieg Army list.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/k/kreig.pdf

Also the FAQ!
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/d/dkkfaq2707.pdf


An interesting note is that engineers don't buy a Hades Drill, the Hades Drill must buy a squad of engineers!

Okay, its kind of a mesh of the two, so here's the ruling.

If a Hades Drill emerges via deep strike, the hole it leaves behind counts as a table edge from that point onwards for the purpose of Engineer Squads or other Hades Breaching Drills. If a Hades Breaching Drill is destroyed, it must re-enter play in an identical way to a troops choice (so it may deep strike again, emerge from a hole already made, or come on from a table side). However, for the second time, it does not need an Engineer squad to be following it.

I'll add it to the mission.

Starting to think I should have used more troops, but ah well

And to update: I've undercoated and white washed 10 of my 10.5 models that need doing

Edit: Also, for "wrecked = exploded" for dedicated transports in Mission: Attrition, Table Quarters, does that mean if a squad is driving around in its transport and suffers a wrecked result, they have to roll for saves etc as if they were inside an exploding transport? Or do you just want the transport removed from the table?

Oh, I MIGHT drop down just to say "Hi" on the Sunday, btw.

SilverMK2 wrote:Starting to think I should have used more troops, but ah well

And to update: I've undercoated and white washed 10 of my 10.5 models that need doing

Edit: Also, for "wrecked = exploded" for dedicated transports in Mission: Attrition, Table Quarters, does that mean if a squad is driving around in its transport and suffers a wrecked result, they have to roll for saves etc as if they were inside an exploding transport? Or do you just want the transport removed from the table?

That's better than me, right now I have managed to complete.... one engineer.

And I haven't even weathered him yet... I need to get off Dakka and get painting!

Bloody hell, you're cutting it a bit fine.

SilverMK2 wrote:Starting to think I should have used more troops, but ah well

And to update: I've undercoated and white washed 10 of my 10.5 models that need doing

Edit: Also, for "wrecked = exploded" for dedicated transports in Mission: Attrition, Table Quarters, does that mean if a squad is driving around in its transport and suffers a wrecked result, they have to roll for saves etc as if they were inside an exploding transport? Or do you just want the transport removed from the table?

It was mainly because I want them off the table, but rather than confusing the issue and saying that the model is removed, but doesn't explode, etc, I felt it would be simpler to just say it explodes with all appropriate rules applying.

I think I need to start compiling the 40K quiz for Saturday.....

Aaaaargh

And after all that, work has popped up this week. I'll only have friday free to prepare, so I'm not going to get any of my cunning army ideas ready.

So, in the interests of variety.... I'll be bringing the Daemons

(sorry notprop)

yeah,
boooo to daemons!

Just made my Grot lists. I only need to paint up a few deff dread arms and I'm good to go!

Panic.

Just to let you gents know, due to a severe football accident, Mark (Rinkydink), is no longer able to join us this weekend.

Now this leaves us in a bit of a tight spot regarding numbers, as they don't quite match up. I'm currently trying to fix this, but just as a backup, if any of you chaps has a friend that might like to come along, feel free to PM me.

ArbitorIan wrote:Aaaaargh

And after all that, work has popped up this week. I'll only have friday free to prepare, so I'm not going to get any of my cunning army ideas ready.

So, in the interests of variety.... I'll be bringing the Daemons

(sorry notprop)

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

If we are as reported one short (sorry Rinkydink - get well soon ) I am quite happy to accept a free win if drawn against ArbitorIan so that he can let his Demons loose on someone else. (i'm semi-serious )

We might be too short. Haven't heard from Brad in a bit, and unsure what's going on with him. We'll attempt to find out as soon as, to level up numbers.

Yeah, gutted. Nerve damage on my left arm...

I'm sure you'll all miss the 'King of the Draws' from PD1!

I'll be back for PD3, but I want to see bat reps and another team photo on Saturday!

If Brad ends up not coming, it must be said, that would equal out our numbers once again. I'd appreciate it if you could find out what's happening there Ian, as if that is the case, the problem will have solved itself.

I'm very sorry to hear about your arm, Rinkydink!

yeah,
Titan Princepts (screen names people! we're not in the same room playing toy soilders yet!) is deffinently coming, I just spoke to his missus.
It sux you can't come RinkyDink, Next time!

Panic...

edit:
Maybe we should get stickers so we can make learning screen names and real names easier.

Yes.

Name badges.

What is the weather like?

I am seriously worried about getting down there. If I can get there, I'm not so worried about being snowed in.

Currently snowing, with more snow forecasted for the weekend! (not looking good...)

Well. From Ealing, it is motorway nearly all the way. I have the whole day to get there.

Kent is apparently supposed to get 20cm or something (according to the wife) - though we were supposed to get 5cm today and have exactly 0cm

I might struggle from Essex. Its been snowing this evening and the hotel are being a bit arsey about when I can and can not cancel [if the worst happens!].

Hope it all blows over and we have no problems.

I hope we all make it down to Canterbury and get snowed in there.

What a delightfully cozy Xmas it would be.

Currently there is an almost frost like covering of snow on car bonnets and the like, and none elsewhere, it's too wet for the snow to stay it seems.

Of course when we all get snowed in and trapped in the tournament venue, we'll look back on this and laugh.

We'll eat Mr. Ketara first, he's the youngest and tenderest.

Speaking of which, I've never actually been to the Missing Link building, is there a specific room that we'll all go to meet at or are we going to meet elsewhere and then head to Darwin to play?

As things stand, there's a small ,layer of frost, but nothing exceptional down here in Canterbury.

And Snarky is younger and smaller than me! We get to eat him first......

The missing link building has 3 seminar rooms and a small hall, we're in the hall.

Well, I am driving down at about 3am on Saturday (was going to go Friday evening, but pretty much the entire country is going to be on the roads then apparently). Hopefully get to my wifes parents at about 7am, have a rest, then head out again at about 8.30-9am-ish to make sure I am there for about 10 so I can drive/walk around lost for half an hour.

Getting my "I'm really tired" excuse in early for why I play really badly

Ketara wrote:As things stand, there's a small ,layer of frost, but nothing exceptional down here in Canterbury.

And Snarky is younger and smaller than me! We get to eat him first......

The missing link building has 3 seminar rooms and a small hall, we're in the hall.

It has one of those electric hand driers in the gents' ablutions. We can huddle under that when the cold becomes too much.

Prehaps a fire based knock out mission? As units are destroyed they become fuel for the fire. Naturally there would then be an extra benifit from destroying those big/dangerous warmachines.

Mmmmmm I love the toxic fumes of plastic and acrylic, smells like victory. [faints]

We're heading down first thing Saturday and will head straight to the university. Here's hoping traffic will be ok. Snow is bothering me a bit, bit I'm sure we'll be ok. Maybe brandy will help - I'm certain there'll be a few gamers who'll help me out

A hip flask, an excellent idea Tek!

I'm at the go/don't go point because of hotel restrictions and I will be a go! [much to Mrs' notprop's chargrin ]

I'll be heading out in oh....20 minutes and praying snow doesn't trap me on the rail lines somewhere? And I also pray I don't get trapped down in Canterbury either...

Now it's snowing...

Chris, I hope you get this, I'm going to PM you my home telephone number and my work one just in case.

A little bit of snow here (midlands) - only about 0.5-1cm on the pavements and side roads.

Due more later on tonight/tomorrow morning, so I am hoping to be on the motorway before it starts/gets heavy.

And to update on my painting: Just finished painting the trim lines and joints/pipes on my 10 models, and have just put on the crackle glaze on the 0.5 model [bwahaha]

Hope everyone manages to get there OK.

Well, I'm on the train from Edinburgh to Canterbury now (yay 15 minutes of free wifi! ) I do have youe PM red, and if anything comes up I'll be calling in. If all goes well, I should be in Canterbury tonight.

Only 5 more engineers left....

Going to sneak off work early today to see if I can complete the base coating of my characters. My troopers are all up to shade but a slow painting week (poorly daughter) has meant that my command squads are a distictly drab affair. I hope this does not mean that their Leadership rolls are as lacklusture!

yeah,
Got my dreads arms finished last night and went for a pint with TitanPrincepts.

ArbitorIan, TitanPrincepts and I are driving down from London first thing tomorrow morning in Titans RadMobile.
Should be ok if the gritters are out on the motorways tonight.

Panic...

The snow as things stand is still relatively light. Just a small smattering across the ground here, so you chaps who are heading down tonight shouldn't run into any difficulties. Couldn't say for those coming tomorrow morning though.

I drove down between 10:30 and 1. The route was M25, M26, A249, M20, M2, A2.

There were several pretty sharp snow showers on the way and a lot of snow on the ground.

There was a small jam just where the A249 joins the M2, due to roadworks closing one lane.

Canterbury is clear and cold. A light snow shower about 1 o'clock.

The forecast for tomorrow is more snow.

I'm sure you'll all be pleased to know I double checked with estates and they have promised the heating will be on in the building both days.

*dooms entire event*

Have to say that I am enjoying my evening of finishing off my painting - have not left it all to the last minute like I did for SS in August

Just need to wash 5 helmets, paint 10 pairs of eyes, then do 10 bases.

The sad thing is I will have to get up at 2.30 to drive south for the winter

And I hope it is not hot enough for reds8n's avatar now

Oh yes, mainly pointed at Mr. Ketara : can you print off a few/some copies of the various missions too please. Mt printer has just died coughing up army lists.

Have a great time guys! Safe travels. Disappointed I couldn't make it - but am looking forward to the reports!

yeah,

reds8n wrote:Oh yes, mainly pointed at Mr. Ketara : can you print off a few/some copies of the various missions too please. Mt printer has just died coughing up army lists.

I can do this I just finishing up at work. 25 copies of the schedule as it stand on page 1 running off the printer...

see you guys in the morning.

Panic...

By the way, sorry guys but I won't be able to join you all after the games for drinks/dinner. My schedules too tight to try to get dinner, maybe next time around?

Damn good, I've finished my army to tabletop quality (just in the nick of time)

I'll need to print my army list off at the uni tomorrow however, hope the library is open!

Everything is ready to go, and I'll see all you gents tomorrow!

Oh my god it's early. Whose great idea was it to get up in the middle of the night to miss all the traffic?

See you all later on, assuming that I do not fall asleep

Daemons. Check
Army List. Check
Tub 'o' terrain. Check

Bradley's fast car. Um. Dunno.

...

Seriously bad night here, but no snow!

Dunno what its like in kent but we will soon see.

See you there fellers.

Just about to head across now, so will see you later


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Unfortunately had to leave after lunch today due to snow. Took me well over 3 hours to get home (it is a 1 hour trip normally). had a few scary moments on rhe roads too but made it back without crashing though many could not say the same

From the state of the roads I don't think i will be able to make it for Sunday unfortunately.

Good to meet a few new faces (even if briefly).


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Unfortunately had to leave after lunch today due to snow. Took me well over 3 hours to get home (it is a 1 hour trip normally). had a few scary moments on rhe roads too but made it back without crashing though many could not say the same

From the state of the roads I don't think i will be able to make it for Sunday unfortunately.

Good to meet a few new faces (even if briefly).

Trains were bogged down enough that I got stuck in London. x.x Hope tomorrow goes well, and I look forward to seeing the results!

Apologies for leaving early on Sunday, but I didn't want to risk being stuck for another night.

Unbelievably, after they gritted all the roads, the buses still didn't run. Trains were fine though.

Well, the tournament is over, the room is cleaned, and the goodbyes have been said. All that's left is the write ups.....

Here's some pics that i've got for day one. Still have some more, but the camera doesn't seem to want to unload them. Oh well, enjoy these for the time being.

Top two days guys, really enjoyed it...thanks for the games (with the exception of Demons)! Pizza was good too :-)

Safe trip home to those that are traveling.

Sorry I had to leave early fellers but the snow [and the Mrs!] was calling and had to make tracks before the next lot fell.

As it was the roads were clear and it only took me 20 minutes longer than getting there so I had time to make my assent on the top table after all!

Ben you really set up a greta tournement and would like to both commend and thank you for that.

All of the players we top notch and there were some really great forces present, with special mention to Kk's Termaguant generating Tyranid army that gave me a sound dusting!

The cocktails and jellybeans are on me for PD3.

Any news of the scores on the doors?

Just wish I had been able to stay. I was looking forward to taking on some of the armies there and getting to know everyone a bit

Perhaps next time.

Hey guys! Thanks for a fantastic tournament.

I've posted my report at - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/334707.page#2246007

(including dodgy mid-meal mugshots - let me know if you want to keep your secret interweb identity and I'll draw a big blob on your face)

Morning fellas.

Sorry to ditch you all on the second day - perhaps I'd better explain.

After seeing Reds8n briefly in the car park, Benny and I drove to our hotel. The drive was hairy as gak. We skidded 4 or 5 times, and ended up sliding sideways down a hill, missing half a dozen abandoned cars by a gnat's pube. After finally getting onto the A2 (where our hotel was, 5 miles from the venue), we got showered and ready to set off. The decision was made that we would cab back in to town, as it's better to write off a stanger's car than your own. We also decided to rely on taxis until the homeward journey Sunday evening.

No cabs. First the A2 shut due to an accident, and then the cab companies started refusing to some out to us, then finally stopped running altogether. Dinner for two in the hotel restaurant then. :(

Sunday came and after breakfast I started calling the cabs again. Same story as before, and today Benny really didn't want to drive his car back up to the Uni, and I can't say I blame him - I wouldn't even have driven my shitheap up there. We waited it out for an hour or so, tried again but to no avail. After speaking with Ketara,
we then made the very difficult decision to jack in the second day of gaming. It's a shame, as there were people I still wanted to meet, and armies I still wanted to play. We wrote some killer CSM lists in the hotel room then limped up the A2, toward home.

We both had a killer time though chaps. We spoke almost non-stop about the armies we'd played, people we'd met and the great time we'd had. If we can organise to do the same thing again, but in a more agreeable clime, we'll be back with gusto. Once again sorry for abandoning the cause, but thanks for a great first day.

Peace.

Some more pics I took at the event.


Super Space Eldar Terrain
I think this was made by Panic. The buildings are pint beer glasses, cardboard packaging inserts, and some kind of egg thing.


The plan goes badly wrong for Snarky's Korps of Krieg Kombat Engineers


Slaanesh Daemons attack Hive Fleet Kielbasa


This Tau outpost is pure genius
All the dome buildings are Japanese soup bowls.


Tervigon and offspring cower in fear at the might of the Mechanised Imperial Guard

yeah,
My Report.
++ Panic goes to the DakkaDakka Winter Platinum Devil 2010 ++ 7 bat reps with 100 photos! ++
Panic...

Just to add another post to the "I had a fun time" vibe we have going on, and my total respect especially to thsoe who travelled so far to play as well.

Be great to meet up with people again, and kudos to everyone for staying so cheerful in the somewhat WTF weather we had , the pics below show what it was like when we all arived, all nervous and smiling and giggly, early on Saturday morning and then quite how much snow did fall in just a few scant hours.

My blastmasters, alas, let me down quite a lot with regards to actually hurting thinsg this time, alas, but the Defiler gets special credit for being a genuine rampaging engine of destruction.

Special thanks indeed to thsoe who brought along some simply stunning terrain, which made the games great to watch, let alone play on.

Roll on the next get together.. maybe we'll have a look at that grand battle/apoc type scenario we talked about.