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Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 17:55:20


Post by: Zefig


I have noticed, over my perusals of the boards here, a stunningly high number of mistakes when it comes to referring to those little bits of plastic to which all of our favorite minis are attached. So, in an effort to curb this epidemic, I present the following in order to inform and educate.

This is a sprue. The plural is "sprues."


This is a spruce. This particular one does not, in all likelihood, contain any models or wargaming miniatures.


Do not be fooled by your browser's spellcheck. You can rest assured that sprue is a word and is in fact the correct term.

With Christmas quickly approaching, we may be seeing the occasional box of minis new-on-spruce. Until then, however, I'll take mine on the sprues.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 17:58:56


Post by: Catyrpelius


lol, I was at a con this week with a couple of guys who told me a story about a couple of kids selling a giant box of spruces. I laughed then and I shall laugh now.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 18:01:05


Post by: Lucid


To add to this, I have also noticed a large number of people spelling Turret wrong

they tend to put Turrent . . . its Turret people


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 18:03:41


Post by: Zefig


Lucid wrote:To add to this, I have also noticed a large number of people spelling Turret wrong

they tend to put Turrent . . . its Turret people


Oh yeah that's another really bad one. I've seen it in some bitz stores as well. NO WONDER I couldn't find those razorback weapons I was looking for.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 18:06:40


Post by: Howard A Treesong


Lucid wrote:To add to this, I have also noticed a large number of people spelling Turret wrong

they tend to put Turrent . . . its Turret people


I've never seen 'turrent' anywhere. But at least it's just a spelling mistake, unlike when people confuse "their", "they're" and "there" and completely confuse a sentence.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 18:08:49


Post by: SlaveToDorkness


Another is "Ordnance" spelled "Ordinance".

I have a local business competitor that advertises that

"No job is to big or to small!"

I advertise that I can spell "too".


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 18:32:58


Post by: CURNOW


How about when they use dwarfs not dwarves ! you dont have a army of "dwarfs" as you have to call them p.o.r.g's now anyway !
you have a army of dwarves lol

{Person Of Restricted Growth}


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 18:58:44


Post by: hungryp


CURNOW wrote:How about when they use dwarfs not dwarves ! you dont have a army of "dwarfs" as you have to call them p.o.r.g's now anyway !
you have a army of dwarves lol

{Person Of Restricted Growth}


Well...umm... http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/landingArmy.jsp?catId=cat440017a&rootCatGameStyle=


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 19:25:05


Post by: Balance


CURNOW wrote:How about when they use dwarfs not dwarves ! you dont have a army of "dwarfs" as you have to call them p.o.r.g's now anyway !
you have a army of dwarves lol

{Person Of Restricted Growth}


I think Dwarves vs. Dwarfs has roots in Tolkien, at least. Keep in mind that plural forms are more or less just rules of thumb, and not hard and fast rules. I've seen discussion about it before... I think it may have been an intentional stylistic choice to help differentiate "short, hairy, mountain-people born from the mountains" from "people with stunted growth that can get a reality show these days if they have an interesting job."

Spruces for Sprues has annoyed me for quite a while, too. It almost got to the point where I stopped commenting as I thought it might have been British English, much like the use of 'whinge' instead of the US 'whine.'

I think it's mostly gone away, but you used to see people confuse 'runes' and 'ruins' a lot online.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 19:28:48


Post by: Laughing Man


I think it's mostly gone away, but you sued to see people confuse 'runes' and 'ruins' a lot online.

Litigation over world choice? I endorse this product and/or service.



Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 19:32:28


Post by: Balance


Laughing Man wrote:
I think it's mostly gone away, but you sued to see people confuse 'runes' and 'ruins' a lot online.

Litigation over world choice? I endorse this product and/or service.



I always mistype use/sue it seems. On the plus side, I do know the difference between a tree and a plastic frame.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 19:33:09


Post by: Kilkrazy


You quite often see people typing Emperor.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 19:47:21


Post by: Zefig


Rogue/Rouge is another bad one too. Pretty prominent, and just as glaring.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 19:48:43


Post by: Balance


Zefig wrote:Rogue/Rouge is another bad one too. Pretty prominent, and just as glaring.


Angel/Angle! I love hearing of the exploits of the Blood Angles!

(I am amused by my own inability to spell/type in a thread complaining about people's spelling skills...)


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 19:55:46


Post by: MagickalMemories


Another sprue issue that bothers me is "sprew."
It bothers me only slightly less than spruce.

Emporer, pratect me! Send the Blood Angles and Ultramarnies in all there glory too pratect my modles and spruce!

Eric


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 20:11:27


Post by: daedalus


hey man I totalyl dont half too cut all my gaurd of there spruce or b gluing their tank turrents on when i verse my litle brother cuz we verse on vassal...i play on my labtop!

Phew. That even hurt me. Oh, and "intensive purposes".


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 20:13:33


Post by: ZekeWN


My most common spell check error is squeal, because for some reason I am dyslexic as hell and every time I spell it squeel and spell check it as sequel. And on a side note I LOVE orks, but can't stand when people talk in Ork style language just annoys the piss out of me for some reason.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 20:16:35


Post by: chaos0xomega


Catyrpelius wrote:lol, I was at a con this week with a couple of guys who told me a story about a couple of kids selling a giant box of spruces. I laughed then and I shall laugh now.


They wouldn't happened to have been involved with an organization called NJ Gamer, would they? A couple of heavier set gentlemen... occurred at an auction... kids had ridiculous expectations of getting like a dollar per bit or something like that? I assume that the con was the warstore weekend...


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 20:22:51


Post by: Laughing Man


Kilkrazy wrote:You quite often see people typing Emperor.

...That's because it's actually spelled Emperor...


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 20:31:04


Post by: Catyrpelius


chaos0xomega wrote:
Catyrpelius wrote:lol, I was at a con this week with a couple of guys who told me a story about a couple of kids selling a giant box of spruces. I laughed then and I shall laugh now.


They wouldn't happened to have been involved with an organization called NJ Gamer, would they? A couple of heavier set gentlemen... occurred at an auction... kids had ridiculous expectations of getting like a dollar per bit or something like that? I assume that the con was the warstore weekend...


Those would infact be the gentlemen. Would you by any chance be one of those gentlemen?


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 20:32:40


Post by: Worms4u


Emporer, pratect me! Send the Blood Angles and Ultramarnies in all there glory too pratect my modles and spruce!


I think I just went cross-eye'd and had an aneurysm.

I may have to add that to my signature after I have recovered.

Worms


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 20:35:13


Post by: Zefig


daedalus wrote:hey man I totalyl dont half too cut all my gaurd of there spruce or b gluing their tank turrents on when i verse my litle brother cuz we verse on vassal...i play on my labtop!

Phew. That even hurt me. Oh, and "intensive purposes".


Oh jeez, don't even get me started on "versing."


Balance wrote:
Angel/Angle! I love hearing of the exploits of the Blood Angles!



Not sure why, but that one doesn't annoy me nearly as much. Maybe it's because I've taken advantage of it to snag some juicy deals on ebay that no one else can find because they're actually searching for the correct army name.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 20:38:54


Post by: skrulnik


Fraction instead of faction

Mute instead of moot

Rouge instead of rogue

droid instead of druid. This is an audio one though. I have not seen it typed.

versing should not be used because it sounds dumb and is not a word. Noticing that one more lately and it bugs me


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 21:04:49


Post by: Lucid


One of my favorite posts hase been because someone misspelled or missused verse, and someone took it to mean a verse of peotry. The thread spawned another thread of awsome/awful 40k poetry. . . I have to find that again . . .


If anyone does find it would you be so kind as to throw up a link?


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 21:06:40


Post by: Kilkrazy


Laughing Man wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:You quite often see people typing Emperor.

...That's because it's actually spelled Emperor...


No, it's not.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/115025.page


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 21:19:47


Post by: dkellyj


i c no probs on dis topik
corse i is also a produkt ov da kaleefornya skool sistem so is i am smarterer den most of yooze.

(and I vote....BWHAHAHAHA)


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 21:30:11


Post by: H.B.M.C.


I've never heard anyone ever say "Spruce".

Guy in our group pronounces "Hatred" "Hat-red" (Hat as in I'm wearing a hat, and red as in the colour). It's weird.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 22:13:36


Post by: Lucid


I just remembered. Some people end thier pleading with "please advice" instead of Please Advise

or they screw it up the other way around and ask for "advise" instead of Advice


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 23:16:46


Post by: BloodQuest


Zefig wrote:This is a spruce. This particular one does not, in all likelihood, contain any models or wargaming miniatures.

You mean they don't grow on trees?

My #1 peeve is "of" instead of "have": "I could of..."

Almost as annoying are all the F-word alternatives: fething, frakking, freaking, fricking, frigging, etc.

Say what you mean, mean what you say...


Finally, there's the sheer, gross, ignorance of people like my brother-in-law who once asked me how many pixie-cells my monitor has.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/26 23:42:30


Post by: Forgotmytea


To be perfectly honest, while I reserve a particular level of scorn for mixing 'their' 'they're' and 'there', any mistake inevitably gets to me In my defence, my full-time job is as a copywriter/proof-reader, so I have to be picky!


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 01:16:44


Post by: ChiliPowderKeg


Aw, I was hoping for a plastic versus tree deathmatch.

I still wonder how spell check could have lead to that though.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 01:42:54


Post by: chaos0xomega


Catyrpelius wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
Catyrpelius wrote:lol, I was at a con this week with a couple of guys who told me a story about a couple of kids selling a giant box of spruces. I laughed then and I shall laugh now.


They wouldn't happened to have been involved with an organization called NJ Gamer, would they? A couple of heavier set gentlemen... occurred at an auction... kids had ridiculous expectations of getting like a dollar per bit or something like that? I assume that the con was the warstore weekend...


Those would infact be the gentlemen. Would you by any chance be one of those gentlemen?


No, but I know them very well, I help them out with NJ Gamer activities when I'm home from school for the summer.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 01:49:26


Post by: Nurglitch


watever, its a, mute point


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 02:03:02


Post by: chaos0xomega


You mean its a MOOT point...


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 02:05:50


Post by: Nurglitch


At least one occasionally prays that is the case. Depends on whether the point has been mooted or not.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 02:28:23


Post by: insaniak


BloodQuest wrote:Almost as annoying are all the F-word alternatives: fething, frakking, freaking, fricking, frigging, etc.

Say what you mean, mean what you say...

So, in other words, use an actual adjective instead of swearing?


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 02:38:35


Post by: Johann


By far the most common mistake I see on game forums is "loose" instead of "lose". If you don't like loosing, tighten up your game, man.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 03:02:05


Post by: mgraham


Kilkrazy wrote:
Laughing Man wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:You quite often see people typing Emperor.

...That's because it's actually spelled Emperor...


No, it's not.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/115025.page


Yes it is?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/emperor
http://oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_us1243876#m_en_us1243876
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1060203
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1095444


I like it when people say or type, "spruce"; always makes me chuckle a little. I think it's cute and it makes me think of my son (he's said it before and I've also heard him say "pumble"). I always refer to 40k as "Warpumbler".


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 03:12:56


Post by: The Bringer


I will never be able to spell the emp-r-r word again thanks to you guys, I'm so confused.

The mispelling I see the most out of everything is the word "the."

Often people are typing fast and say the  I can't actually type the word fast correctly when I try.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 03:25:03


Post by: mgraham


The Bringer wrote:I will never be able to spell the emp-r-r word again thanks to you guys, I'm so confused.


Do a Google search for "emporer" and then do one for "emperor". Note the results.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 03:28:24


Post by: The Bringer


emporer has 317,000 results
emperor has 54,000 results

Does that mean emporer is correct? My spellcheck says otherwise... aahkk!!!

I don't know what to trust.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 03:41:20


Post by: mgraham


The Bringer wrote:emporer has 317,000 results
emperor has 54,000 results

Does that mean emporer is correct? My spellcheck says otherwise... aahkk!!!

I don't know what to trust.


Google asks, "Did you mean emperor" when I search for "emporer":



I get "About 45,500,000 results" when I search for "emperor":



Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 04:24:36


Post by: insaniak


Try googling 'dry humour doesn't always translate well into the written word...'


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 04:56:54


Post by: MagickalMemories


H.B.M.C. wrote:I've never heard anyone ever say "Spruce".

Guy in our group pronounces "Hatred" "Hat-red" (Hat as in I'm wearing a hat, and red as in the colour). It's weird.


I can personally attest that, over on Bartertown, we occasionally see people trying to trade or sell models "new on spruce."
I desperately want to edit them, but you can't protect people from their own stupidity. : )


Eric


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 05:29:32


Post by: BloodQuest


And, of course, it's always nice to see lightening bolts...


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 12:14:16


Post by: Kilkrazy


If someone did an injection kit of the Hughes H-4 Hercules, it would contain heaps of Spruce Goose Sprues.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 19:01:09


Post by: asmith


The Bringer wrote:emporer has 317,000 results
emperor has 54,000 results

Does that mean emporer is correct? My spellcheck says otherwise... aahkk!!!

I don't know what to trust.


My google has 45,000,000 hits for "emperor" and 314,000 for "emporer"
maybe you are using Goegle instead?


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 21:01:34


Post by: Kilkrazy


There is only One True Spase Emporer!!!


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 21:20:39


Post by: Saldiven


I've often rolled my eyes at both DE Ravagers and Tyranid Raveners (sp?) being referred to as "Ravengers."


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 22:34:45


Post by: Nurglitch


"Rediculous" makes me twitch. It's either 'ridiculous' or 'recockulous'.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 22:48:42


Post by: George Spiggott


insaniak wrote:Try googling 'dry humour doesn't always translate well into the written word...'
I did, I got this: No results found for "dry humour doesn't always translate well into the written word".


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/27 22:56:30


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


OP

Technically the first picture is a tree
and the second is another tree.



Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/28 04:16:24


Post by: AvatarForm


About time... I have some locals in my group who insist it is 'spur'


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/28 05:34:10


Post by: Zefig


Unfortunately, Chibi, the first one isn't coniferous.

You probably wouldn't want to landscape with it.

Then again.....


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/28 06:15:16


Post by: CrashUSAR


Kilkrazy wrote:If someone did an injection kit of the Hughes H-4 Hercules, it would contain heaps of Spruce Goose Sprues.

HA!

Simple spelling errors never bothered me too much, we all make mistakes. It's the constant mispelling that irks me, or substituting numbers for words. You know who you are.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/28 08:26:52


Post by: BAWTRM


I see some have already mentioned the horrible rogue/rouge, I can't recall all those instances I've read "I went to the local Rouge Trader tournament...", uh-huh yeah, you went over there and got yourself a nice make-over, probably with some mascara and lipstick too.

Lose/loose is only a mild annoyance for me though very common.

Chaos/Choas really irritates me though, learn to spell (part of) the name of your own army!! This one gets my goat every time and I don't even play with any variation of those guys!

And btw, isn't it spelled Empror?


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/28 08:46:37


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


Zefig wrote:Unfortunately, Chibi, the first one isn't coniferous.

You probably wouldn't want to landscape with it.

Then again.....


Having studied Landscape Design am sure it would be perfectly possible
And now you come to mention it

And technically it is still a tree and not a sprue afaik
Kilkrazy wrote:If someone did an injection kit of the Hughes H-4 Hercules, it would contain heaps of Spruce Goose Sprues.


hehe
Pretty sure I saw such a kit recently on ebay, not sure which scale but fairly safe in assuming 1/144
Would possibly actually get to fly as much as the real thing.



Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/28 08:50:38


Post by: SpaceMarineCollecter


Taken from Codex: Space Marines

"From the ashes of the age of strife arose a mighty leader, the man who would only be known as The Emperor"
So by games workshop's spelling it's Emperor, and I believe their overpriced Codexes.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/28 08:56:04


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


There is no spellcheck in the Grimgakk


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/28 10:49:19


Post by: snurl


So if GW released a new set of terrain, and it included some spruces, you could expect to see sprues of spruces in the box?


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/28 13:31:31


Post by: Scott-S6


Lucid wrote:To add to this, I have also noticed a large number of people spelling Turret wrong

they tend to put Turrent . . . its Turret people


urbandictionary wrote:A common misspelling of the word "turret," usually made by people with a fourth-grade education.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=turrent


Automatically Appended Next Post:
The Bringer wrote:emporer has 317,000 results
emperor has 54,000 results

What search engine did you use? Did you type emperor correctly?


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/28 13:33:28


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


Re: the tree in the terrain set.

He's called Bob.
Formally known as Robert the Spruce.




Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/28 14:04:50


Post by: Howard A Treesong


Zefig wrote:Rogue/Rouge is another bad one too. Pretty prominent, and just as glaring.


Don't knock it, I've bagged several "Rouge Trader" bargains on eBay, long may it continue!

Similarly, even eBay suffers from dreadful spelling. Simply type "Warhammer" into the search and check the catagories...



Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/29 19:44:25


Post by: Necroagogo


Some of these aren't actually errors, per say ...


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/29 19:47:45


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


As long as you are pointing per se at the porcelain it won't really matter.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/29 20:08:26


Post by: Necroagogo




Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/30 00:07:40


Post by: chromedog


Necroagogo wrote:Some of these aren't actually errors, per say ...


Unlike "Per say", which is another one that gets me.

It's Per se. "In itself".

Get it right or GTFO.



Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/30 00:17:07


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


Think Necro was being playful with the spelling


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/30 00:38:16


Post by: DX3


This thread makes me lol. Bwahahahahahahaah!


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/30 00:59:00


Post by: chromedog


Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Think Necro was being playful with the spelling


Edit: left off the smilies.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/30 01:39:01


Post by: The Defenestrator


The one that really gets my goat is 'sponsoons'. sponson does not rhyme with platoon. It rhymes with johnson. And please don't spell things phonetically if you've only heard them in real life. Google it first.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/30 01:49:21


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


Platoon rhymes with spittoon, but it doesn't go ding

Sponsoon. vb. To be inundated by a deluge of advertising.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/30 02:21:30


Post by: BloodQuest


Howard A Treesong wrote:Similarly, even eBay suffers from dreadful spelling. Simply type "Warhammer" into the search and check the catagories...


You're going to kick yourself... ... categories


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/30 02:31:08


Post by: rryannn


this thread stinks of d-baggery.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/30 09:34:08


Post by: Zefig


Hey, better to vent in here than to be running around like a grammar nazi, calling everyone out in whatever particular thread. It'd just be a losing battle.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/30 09:34:36


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


to all those who spell Emperor wrong, here is the correct spelling:

EMPRAH!


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/30 09:35:13


Post by: Kilkrazy


Spontoon.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/30 10:35:43


Post by: Howard A Treesong


BloodQuest wrote:
Howard A Treesong wrote:Similarly, even eBay suffers from dreadful spelling. Simply type "Warhammer" into the search and check the catagories...


You're going to kick yourself... ... categories


Noooo!!!!

Actually, the real blind spot I have is "experiance", I can't seem to shake off spelling it that way instead of the correct "experience".


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/10/31 21:44:23


Post by: Balance


Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Platoon rhymes with spittoon, but it doesn't go ding


Wait, how are people mispronouncing platoon?


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/01 05:55:49


Post by: Snord


A weird one I've seen is 'skellington' instead of 'skeleton'. It's rather cute, and I know at least one chap (from the North in England) who says it this way.

A couple of things we all do that are actually incorrect:

'Shoulder pads' - we all use this to mean the armoured piece that protects the shoulder. It's not a pad at all, of course; it's actually a pauldron, but I doubt anyone is going to start using that term.

'Ordinance' - I think someone else mentioned this; it's a common mis-spelling. An 'ordinance' is a statute; the correct term in WH40k is 'ordnance'.

'Metagame' - essentially, the metagame is the broader set of rules/conditions that sit above the rules of the game itself. I know this is a word that's taken on a broader meaning since it was seized upon by wargamers, but it's now used indiscriminately, usually in order to make the writer sound more authoritative than he/she actually is. How many times have you seen the assertion that "this codex changes the metagame" in a BoLS 'article'? In reality, the only changes that the writer is referring to are changes to existing army lists. Arguably the new Dark Eldar codex does actually alter the metagame, because of the way the new Pain rules work, but that's the exception. This is really just a pet peeve, and the overuse of this term isn't that common on Dakka.









Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/01 07:21:26


Post by: Sidstyler


Hell, even GW calls them "shoulder pads", though. But yeah, 40k is PAULDRONS!


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/01 08:16:25


Post by: Capt_Bowman


Sidstyler wrote:Hell, even GW calls them "shoulder pads", though. But yeah, 40k is PAULDRONS!


That sounds like a new insult. This game is pauldrons!


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/06 01:19:16


Post by: Todosi


Cavalry and Calvary drive me up a wall. Also supposebly, and rendering claws. It's RENDING for the love of all that is holy!


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/06 02:57:07


Post by: Just Dave


I admit to much of my grammar being above-average, unless I have seriously miscalculated the average that is...

Nonetheless, for whomever is the true grammar-nazi (or simply smart person) here, I ask you - as an actual question, not a test - what is the plural of Codex?
Is it Codex's? Or Codices? Or both? Or neither? Or is there no such thing as the plural of Codex and there can never be more than one in one place at a time?

This is one that has always bugged me and help would be appreciated. Cheers. x


Automatically Appended Next Post:
oh and here's a post I saw recently that some of you may enjoy, I've removed much of the name for 'confidentiality purposes'.

Ash___and wrote:A Imperial guardsmen vs Ezekiel the Chief Librarian of the Dark Angels. The Guardsmen one. He was promoted to a hero status.

And also.....

Commissar Yarrick vs a Warlord Titan. He beat the Warlord Titan..... IN COMBAT.

Marneus Calgar vs one of my scout squads. My scout squad owned him, but next turn they were obliterated by vindicators.

2 Necron lords and Night Bringer vs 1 Devastator Sergeant with a power fist. The Devastator passed everything and killed night bringer D: and died next turn from the necron lord. They were locked in combat for 3 turns.....

One of my assault squads vs a 30 death company. I still have no idea how i won that. He had horrendous roles and I saved every single one of them

One of my Captains went into combat with a Daemon Prince. My captain won and then went on to kill an entire Thousand Son's squad.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/06 04:40:07


Post by: Locclo


Well, here's what I found. Dictionary.com lists the plural is codices.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/codex
Wikipedia backs this one up (I'm using dictionary as a source here first, shut up)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex

But go to Wiktionary, and it gets a little more blurry.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/codex
The English form is either or - Codexes or Codices. The French variation, based on the Latin form, however, lists it as neither! The plural of Codex is, apparently, also Codex. (But it's a different word meaning 'all senses' according to the page) Go to the Latin section, and it's even more confusing - it can be spelled codices, codicum, or codicibus. (Although before you jump down my throat, these are different forms of saying the word in a sentence)

I think the final word is a trip down to Merriam-Webster's site: a search for codex gives us this:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/codex

The plural is Codices. And on one last note, both Google and Microsoft Word's spellcheckers list Codexes as an incorrect word.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/06 04:59:15


Post by: The Bringer


I like to say codi.

Let's see if spell-check likes codices. It does! I still like to say codi.

I would never really mind how people spell it, I get the point, and it is probably one of the most unknown spellings that I can think of.

I always get Calvary and cavalry mixed X|


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/06 05:12:53


Post by: Nurglitch


Pauldrons are those things that you can put on Terminator models that protect the juncture of the shoulder baffle armour and the cuirass/gorget of Terminator Armour.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/06 05:18:07


Post by: SmackCakes


Games workshop make up a lot of words, and they are usually encountered first in print. Because of this I have heard a lot of quite crazy pronunciations and missreadings of their background stuff. The few I can remember are...

Rangar in place of Ragnar
Calligar in place of Calgar
World Bearers in place of Word Bearers (At least World Bearers better than Word Eaters)
Sanguinjuice in place of Sanguinius (Also sanguineous)
Khron instead of Khorn
Nurjul instead of Nurgle
I also see Sargent in place of Sergeant quite a lot.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/06 10:49:47


Post by: insaniak


Just Dave wrote:Nonetheless, for whomever is the true grammar-nazi (or simply smart person) here, I ask you - as an actual question, not a test - what is the plural of Codex?
Is it Codex's? Or Codices? Or both? Or neither? Or is there no such thing as the plural of Codex and there can never be more than one in one place at a time?

So far as GW are concerned, 'Codex' is a word in the made-up 'High Gothic' language of Warhammer 40K, that just happens to bear many similarities and shared words with Latin... but it's slightly English-ised Latin, and isn't really intended to follow Latin rules of Grammar.

As such, so far as GW are concerned, the plural of Codex is 'Codexes'... It's what they use pretty consistently, and at least one of the Devs has said as much publicly in the past, including the 'made up language' explanation as to why they don't much care about what a Latin dictionary says it should be.

What the plural should be in actual Latin is only really relevant when you're discussing Latin.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/06 12:01:22


Post by: ArbitorIan


In case is hasn't been mentioned, could I also submit

It's COMMISSAR, not COMMISSIONER






Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/06 12:02:44


Post by: Scott-S6


Todosi wrote:Cavalry and Calvary drive me up a wall. Also supposebly, and rendering claws. It's RENDING for the love of all that is holy!

I don't know, claws that render would be pretty scary!

Render
To give what is due or owed
To give in return or retribution
To reduce, convert, or melt down (fat) by heating.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/06 17:34:15


Post by: Just Dave


Locclo wrote:Well, here's what I found. Dictionary.com lists the plural is codices.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/codex
Wikipedia backs this one up (I'm using dictionary as a source here first, shut up)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex

But go to Wiktionary, and it gets a little more blurry.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/codex
The English form is either or - Codexes or Codices. The French variation, based on the Latin form, however, lists it as neither! The plural of Codex is, apparently, also Codex. (But it's a different word meaning 'all senses' according to the page) Go to the Latin section, and it's even more confusing - it can be spelled codices, codicum, or codicibus. (Although before you jump down my throat, these are different forms of saying the word in a sentence)

I think the final word is a trip down to Merriam-Webster's site: a search for codex gives us this:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/codex

The plural is Codices. And on one last note, both Google and Microsoft Word's spellcheckers list Codexes as an incorrect word.


Aaah, thank you very much Locclo, it's appreciated. I think I'll stick to Codices as its what my Firefox spellcheck accepts.
However, I may go for codicibus for 'lols'. Thanks man!

insaniak wrote:
Just Dave wrote:Nonetheless, for whomever is the true grammar-nazi (or simply smart person) here, I ask you - as an actual question, not a test - what is the plural of Codex?
Is it Codex's? Or Codices? Or both? Or neither? Or is there no such thing as the plural of Codex and there can never be more than one in one place at a time?

So far as GW are concerned, 'Codex' is a word in the made-up 'High Gothic' language of Warhammer 40K, that just happens to bear many similarities and shared words with Latin... but it's slightly English-ised Latin, and isn't really intended to follow Latin rules of Grammar.

As such, so far as GW are concerned, the plural of Codex is 'Codexes'... It's what they use pretty consistently, and at least one of the Devs has said as much publicly in the past, including the 'made up language' explanation as to why they don't much care about what a Latin dictionary says it should be.

What the plural should be in actual Latin is only really relevant when you're discussing Latin.

Thanks Insaniak, so I can 'legally' call it pretty much anything? Hmmm...


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/06 18:34:14


Post by: Kilkrazy


Just Dave wrote:
Locclo wrote:Well, here's what I found. Dictionary.com lists the plural is codices.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/codex
Wikipedia backs this one up (I'm using dictionary as a source here first, shut up)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex

But go to Wiktionary, and it gets a little more blurry.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/codex
The English form is either or - Codexes or Codices. The French variation, based on the Latin form, however, lists it as neither! The plural of Codex is, apparently, also Codex. (But it's a different word meaning 'all senses' according to the page) Go to the Latin section, and it's even more confusing - it can be spelled codices, codicum, or codicibus. (Although before you jump down my throat, these are different forms of saying the word in a sentence)

I think the final word is a trip down to Merriam-Webster's site: a search for codex gives us this:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/codex

The plural is Codices. And on one last note, both Google and Microsoft Word's spellcheckers list Codexes as an incorrect word.


Aaah, thank you very much Locclo, it's appreciated. I think I'll stick to Codices as its what my Firefox spellcheck accepts.
However, I may go for codicibus for 'lols'. Thanks man!
...
...


Don't be silly, that's Ablative case!

Young people these days, etc...


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/06 20:32:27


Post by: BloodQuest


Kilkrazy wrote:Don't be silly, that's Ablative case!


Please! Clearly the dative in this instance.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/07 08:54:25


Post by: Scott-S6


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8
Romanes eunt domus?


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/07 10:32:05


Post by: squilverine


The thing is, if you were to collect model trees would you have a spuce sprue or a sprue of spruces?


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/12 17:13:48


Post by: Element206


haha! Youve seen someone use the word spruce? that is hilarious! I didnt know sprues were conifers! I just assumed everyone knew what they were talking about....im gonna keep my eye out for that mistake now! Kinda like people that say prostrate and mean prostate! or colonel and colonial....oh there are a million of them out there!


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/12 19:51:44


Post by: hemingway


Balance wrote:

I think Dwarves vs. Dwarfs has roots in Tolkien, at least. Keep in mind that plural forms are more or less just rules of thumb, and not hard and fast rules. I've seen discussion about it before... I think it may have been an intentional stylistic choice to help differentiate "short, hairy, mountain-people born from the mountains" from "people with stunted growth that can get a reality show these days if they have an interesting job."


Also important to note that I have found numerous spelling and grammar fails on GWs website. Their online text content should not be considered authoritative.


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/12 20:00:47


Post by: Element206


hemingway wrote:Also important to note that I have found numerous spelling and grammar fails on GWs website. Their online text content should not be considered authoritative.


-- Not to mention the codices. Do they even have an editor at GW?


Sprue vs. Spruce: A Lesson in Terminology. @ 2010/11/13 05:44:27


Post by: chromedog


They might have an editor, but their Proof Reader leaves much to be desired.

Still, not surprised that northerners can't be arsed to get the King's English correct. There's no civilisation north of Watford and all that.