Wanted to see how many Dakkites will actually be purchasing the movie.


I certaintly will. in the hopes that they will make more and the graphics will improve.

I'm not.

A good movie could be fantastic advertisement for the game. Unfortunately, this seems like it will be more in the realm of the Dungeons and Dragons movie.

I ordered it.

ahem

"Hi, I'm Manchu and I pre-orded the Ultramarines movie."

Hi Manchu!

My name is Xanthia and I, too, have pre-ordered Ultramarines, in all its collector's edition glory.

AND YOU WILL NOT SHAME ME

During the special screening off the Ultramarines trailer at Games day UK, the CODEX representative said that GW had put absolutely nothing towards the financing of the film. This being the case, and since they had to raise the funds themselves, I'd like to defend the apparent poor quality of their graphics.

Many people will moan and whine about the DoW trailers and movie clips, but they had a hell of a lot more money to pump into the creation of these scenes.

If you want to see better graphics and the like then you'll need to buy the movie and help CODEX pictures and their (aimed for) future productions become a reality. With more finances they'll invest more in the making (which they have struggled with this time round).

Hopefully people will see the sense in this and not take the "rubbish graphics, whats the point" stance. Also, Dan Abnett has written the story so why would you possible think its gona stink like a D+D movie?

I've been waiting for this for so long, I'm willing to forgive a lot in the way of graphical quality or lack thereof.

I love Dan Abnett's work, I would probably have that man's babies if I could get myself in range so I have no doubt the story will be solid. And the actors (Terence Stamp. Sean Pertwee! John! Freaking! Hurt!) are top quality thesps for the most part.

I have faith.

Yes I've bought it.

I want there to be more of them, and for them to get better.

And I'm shocked that GW didn't put a dime into it. Can we get verification on that?

Hi Everyone, I'm nosferatu1001 and I ordered the UM movie in full just-the-comic-will-do-me fan giggling.

I dont care about the graphics, just the voice cast alone is fabulous, and DA writing the script? Yes, yes please.

They've got to start somewhere; I'm gonna order it.

You poor things.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Right, I'm off to put a monkey on Lame Duck in the 3:30

I will probably buy it,who cares about bad CGI when you've got a script written by a Dan Abnett who will do the job probably.

I've pre-ordered it. Yes, the graphics don't look as good as the DoW stuff but I'm willing to take a punt on it - enjoyment is more than just the visuals and it's not as if it's stick men we're talking about here.

The Commonwealth seems more forgiving than us Americans . . . or more realistic about their addictions.

Looks mighty rubbish to be $40. For $40, I'd expect them to bundle a Ltd Ed. Marine with it...

IMHO, Ultramarines is a $10 movie. Tops.

Well, I'm willing to give it a fair shake. After all, it's not really fair to judge something without actually watching it for yourself.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:You poor things.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Are you daft? You're on a forum in which the majority of people, including yours truly, has spent hundreds if not thousands of pounds on little plastic/metal men...

I preordered it.
If worst comes to worst, it was only 25 quid and you get a graphic novel with it. It will keep me entertained one night after work at least, If its bad, at least I can have a laugh at it.

geordie09 wrote:

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:You poor things.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Are you daft? You're on a forum in which the majority of people, including yours truly, has spent hundreds if not thousands of pounds on little plastic/metal men...

That's a good but depressing point.

I just don't want to watch an hour and a half long intro cinematic.

Gorechild wrote:I preordered it.
If worst comes to worst, it was only 25 quid and you get a graphic novel with it. It will keep me entertained one night after work at least, If its bad, at least I can have a laugh at it.

Exactly. DA writes amazing comics (as Marvel are fully aware!) so a hardback, ltd edition version ALONE has me fit to burst. It hits soooo many geek buttons, all at once.

THe voice cat is great, which is what makes or breaks CGI anyway. Graphically I could care less, as long as it doesnt sound like it was voiced by $2 actors on their lunch break.

I don't think they quite got the proper look of SM. Something seems a bit off. I wasn't surprised to see that these were the people behind the Lego Bionicle stuff.

Hey Geordie, I'm obviously not as daft as you then mate!

Correction. Lame Duck pulled up at the first fence.
The man who charged me a tenner for the tip said she was a dead cert.

I doubt from what I have seen of the trailer if I could sit through 90 minutes of that, let alone pay for the privilage.
But as ever is just my personal take.
I seriously wouldn't call anyone a fool if they want to.
It's what fans do after all.

Manchu wrote:I don't think they quite got the proper look of SM. Something seems a bit off.

I think its the mouth part of the helmets that don't look right, I spent ages looking at the trailer thinking "somthing doesnt look right but what the hell is it?!" and that is all I could think of, its not quite right. That and the eye's are too dark.

Yeah, their snouts are bit too long or something. It's one of those subtle "uncanny valley" issues, I reckon.

Sure, why not. Only if I can just get it from a GW store or on THEIR website, not the movie website. I'd rather bundle it with another purchase.

Hopefully it won't bug me too much when watching it. TBH as long as the storyline is good and the black legion aren't as aweful as they appear in the trailer (dropping like flies against the mighty bloo spase mareens) I won't complain.

Hello, my name is Oni and I pre-ordered...

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TWELVE copies of the Ultramarines movie... OMG what the hell was I thinking.


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No, I'm joking... I only ordered one.

Manchu wrote:The Commonwealth seems more forgiving than us Americans . . . or more realistic about their addictions.

Grey Templar wrote:Wanted to see how many Dakkites will actually be purchasing the movie. I certaintly will. in the hopes that they will make more and the graphics will improve.

Manchu wrote:I ordered it. ahem "Hi, I'm Manchu and I pre-orded the Ultramarines movie."

+1 to both of these

Rental at best.

I pre-ordered it. I won't be too bothered if it isn't all that good, I just hope more stuff like it is made.

oni wrote:Hello, my name is Oni and I pre-ordered...

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TWELVE copies of the Ultramarines movie... OMG what the hell was I thinking.

Oh, you want the room down the hall. Look for the "Matt Ward Fan Club" sign.

I may...

If I can get my gaming group to each chip in 1 dollar...we can all 'have it'...

Though, there be chaos marines...and they may be ftwpwned the whole way through, it's still a strong reason for me to get it

When I first became interested in 40k, I had strong reservations about buying and reading BL books. I mean, $8-$16 for . . . well, you know what it is. But I relaxed a bit and found that I really enjoy (most of) them. I am guessing (betting, really) that it will be the same with this movie.

I look at it this way:

1) I've been wanting a 40k-themed movie for so, so long. This is it. It may not be great, but it's a start.

2) Most companies will only do something if they know they're onto a sure thing. If the scuttlebutt about GW not being involved at all is true, surely supporting this project to show them that the demand is out there, serves a Greater Good (I'm not a Tau, I swear!)

3) Dan Abnett.

keezus wrote:Looks mighty rubbish to be $40. For $40, I'd expect them to bundle a Ltd Ed. Marine with it...

IMHO, Ultramarines is a $10 movie. Tops.

This. No way can I justify $40 for this movie. Freaking Blu-Ray version of Jurrassic Park is cheaper, and looks better.

the movie isn't just the movie.


it is a limited edition collectors edition DVD package(which is worth about $18 at the most)

plus a Dan Abnett limited edition comic book(this is likely worth at lest $15)


the comic book, the DVD, the Special features. all are worth $40 collectivly. i will read the comic book once and then stick it in a plastic cover and put it with my old spiderman comics.

Im going to buy it - consequences be damned!

And as suggested in another thread, i'll be drinking everytime someone says 'For the Emperor'.

Not spending a dime on the "special collectors edition" thats such a hoe out. But as soon as they make it a normal $20 version, Im snagging it up. I too heard that GW spent no money on the project. How gakky, I mean its only THEIR movie

But yea, it they sell enough copies, maybe next time GW will know they can safely put some cash into it and itll be better next time around. Honestly though, I just want to buy the movies so when they get around to making Orks the bad guys, itll be awesome

I'll repeat HBMC's request to confirm by credible source that GW did not contribute to the financing here. Seems more of a rumor than anything at this point.

Grey Templar wrote:Wanted to see how many Dakkites will actually be purchasing the movie.


I certaintly will. in the hopes that they will make more and the graphics will improve.

I dont agree with this at all. Buying a crappy movie will make them release more crappy movies (although it might be a good movie, im not sure yet. Just say'en).

Sorry if this has been raised elsewhere and hopefully it is appropriate.
The threads here and elsewhere referred to the making of a SM movie. I was therefore expecting something for general release in the cinemas.

Was it always going to a straight to DvD, or was it originally intended to go on release at cinemas but it was decided to pull out/couldn't get distribution?

In hindsight, this may have coloured my opinion of the trailers as I was expecting a big budget sci-fi action movie.

it was always a direct to DVD release.


they never considered a Theatrical release.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Was it always going to a straight to DvD, or was it originally intended to go on release at cinemas but it was decided to pull out/couldn't get distribution?

In hindsight, this may have coloured my opinion of the trailers as I was expecting a big budget sci-fi action movie.

I had the same experience and have the same question, especially considering the calibre of the voice talent. Is anything really known about the production here?

When's it come out?

It comes out on 29 November.

Preordered... I am going out on a limb however $40 is nothing in the grand scheme of things, so heres hoping its good!

GW wouldn't have put money into it. Codex would have pitched them along the lines of "we love 40K, we want to make a really grimdark movie for the fans, and we'll pay you a percentage of the take"

You don't suppose JK Rowling financed the Harry Potter films, do you?

The movie looks crap for the fact it was so over-hyped and has taken them 2+ years to make, but i will buy it or no doubt someone will post it on youtube to watch.

Yes, I am buying it, but I want my blu-ray

Im buying three copies. One to watch and two for conversions.

Having had a friend that was trying for 2 years to get the greenlight for an animated 40k film (this was 7ish years ago) I can tell you that GW probably didn't sink a dime into this. My buddy had actually managed to nail down quite a hefty amount of financing and some extra voice talent (though they did quite well on this with it) and GW stonewalled him at every turn. Kudos for Codex managing to make it happen. I don't know how the hell they pitched it but they must be forking over a decent % of the actual profits on it.

Side note but if they had they'd probably be distributing it on their website and in their webstore to increase marketing and sales. Not to mention using places like B&N and Borders here in the US like Black Library does.

More important side note. If money wasn't tight I'd pay $40 for it. Even with money tight I'd pay $20 just to encourage them that it's profitable. But right now it's not an option which makes me sad

im not gonna pay 40$ for a movie that comes with all this crap i dont need. plus i'd have to say the movie looks......ok.

whats with all the old marines?????? arent marines supposed to be Schwarzenegger-like?

I'll borrow it from a friend so I get to see it for free. If I leave in a good mood then I will purchase it to support the film. If I leave annoyed I will not.

epil wrote:Im buying three copies. One to watch and two for conversions.

ROFL

I'm certainly interested in seeing what it is like. But I have a feeling that it is going to be so terrible that I wont manage to sit through it all. Thus I'm hesitant to spend money on seeing it.

Everything about it so far just looks abysmal. They even try to use 'produced by Bob Thompson' as a selling point. Bob Thompson who produced the 'hugely successful' BIONICAL movies. Anyone who has ever watched a BIONICLE movie... Feel free to place your palm on your face now.

I had pretty low expectations for this movie as soon as I heard the name. I can't see how anyone who genuinely wanted to make a meaningful film about the 40k universe could possibly end up naming it 'Ultramarines'. Ultramarines was a bad pun in the 80s and it's still a bad pun today. The only thing it's gained on the way is that it sounds 1000% more gay now (in the 80s it was acceptable, because back then everything was gay).

I predict this will be a stinker.

Zarynterk wrote:however $40 is nothing in the grand scheme of things, so heres hoping its good!

In which case begging PM inbound
40 bucks is a lot of monies here and am certain I can put it to a lot of good

Not sure about it being a gay film.
I don't get the sense there will be any homoeroticism.
Male buddy bonding betwixt hardcase heroes maybe, but all hugging, I predict, will be manly with good hearty backslapping and plenty of space between PA.

In any case it is the Grimgakk.
There is absolutely nothing gay and bright in the Grimgakk. It is a thourghly wretched depressing time wholly lacking in any form of joviality and jolly japes.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Yes I've bought it.

I want there to be more of them, and for them to get better.

And I'm shocked that GW didn't put a dime into it. Can we get verification on that?

I'd heard that too, frankly. I think it's not so much that they "didn't put a dime into it", but that the funding GW gave them was just so pathetically small it probably just covered one of the big name voice actors.

I'll wait for some other poor sucker to buy it and then borrow it.

Kanluwen wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Yes I've bought it.

I want there to be more of them, and for them to get better.

And I'm shocked that GW didn't put a dime into it. Can we get verification on that?

I'd heard that too, frankly. I think it's not so much that they "didn't put a dime into it", but that the funding GW gave them was just so pathetically small it probably just covered one of the big name voice actors.

GW didn't put any money into it.

the way movies based on existing IP are made is like this. this usually includes books, personal expierences...

the owners of the IP, in this case GW, temporarily lease the right to use the IP in the film to the company making it, Codex Pictures, and if the movie is made within the time limit stipulated the Owners get a certain cut of the profits. if the movie isn't made within the time limit the contract either gets extended or the rights revert back to GW and the movie doesn't get made(which is what happened with all previous attempts to make a 40k movie)

anyone who has taken Film History will be familiar with the process.

Manchu wrote:I'll repeat HBMC's request to confirm by credible source that GW did not contribute to the financing here. Seems more of a rumor than anything at this point.

There was a member of the production company at Games Day... He said GW has contributed "nothing" financially!

Only things that bugs me is how CSM die so easily in the trailer.Dan Abnett what have you done!

I decided to pre-order it, I think its important to encourage and give GW related products a chance.
To me a good movie is so much more than awesome graphics, aslong as the storyline is good and got the correct "grimdark" feel, I will enjoy it.

I don't like the movie So I am not bothering with it.

So, the poll so far shows that a majority of Dakkites would purchase the movie, with 1/2 being turned off by the cost.

Production for the film is listed as:
Ultramarines movie is being made by UK-based production company Codex Pictures under licence from Games Workshop, working in association with Good Story Productions Ltd and Montreal based POP6 Studios

As licence holder, as GT says, it is nothing out of the ordinary for GW not to financed the venture.
The publishers of the Harry Potter books didn't finance the movies or video games afaik.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Not sure about it being a gay film.
I don't get the sense there will be any homoeroticism.
Male buddy bonding betwixt hardcase heroes maybe, but all hugging, I predict, will be manly with good hearty backslapping and plenty of space between PA.

In any case it is the Grimgakk.
There is absolutely nothing gay and bright in the Grimgakk. It is a thourghly wretched depressing time wholly lacking in any form of joviality and jolly japes.

For me the connotations that come along with the name Ultramarines. It's kind of half way between being called 'the Hot pinks' and 'Super best marines'. The one image it certainly does not conjure up for me is that of a grim dark future where there is only war. The name is about as serious as 'Angry Marines', it's just one of the silly remnants left over from RT. If I was going to try and make a serious film about the 40k universe I would avoid it like the plague.

'Death Wing', 'Unforgiven', 'Angels of Death', 'Storm Lords', 'Flesh tearers' would all be more grimdark and frankly more interesting than Ultramraines being bland again.

Also the script

For me ATSKNF might have been something said 10,000 years ago by the Emperor himself. With a crack in his voice and vision in his eyes,. He would speak to his followers of a dream he had, of a future for mankind, of an army he will create. Stronger, Faster, Truer of heart... They will be steel, they will be doom... And they shall know no fear. ---> lux aeterna plays in the background.

But when I see the trailer for Ultramarines, it has them sitting around saying all this big stuff about themselves? "Ho ho and we shall know no fear". It just reminds me of a bunch of frat boys psyching themselves for a football game, and later they'll all be in the shower together, whipping each other on the ass with towels, being like "good game guys".

I expect more from Space Marines. Aren't they meant to be the very embodiment of truth and nobility? Apparently that doesn't include modesty or humility any more.

This whole thing just reminds me of those crappy movie tie-in video games from the early 90s, which were really just quite poorly made generic games, which only ever sold because they bore a loose resemblance to a popular movie. Really they were just cashing in on the name, and inevitably disappointing though.

This feels the same way... it's got Ultramarines, it's got Chaos, it's got some copy pasta lines from the source books, it's got low quality Saturday morning cartoon animation, and apparently little in the way of depth or imagination. Space Marines go somewhere > discover chaos > beat chaos > yawn.

I was being a tad flippant due to the derogatory connotations attached to the word "gay". I have gay friends who are anything other than rubbish.
otherwise agree pretty much with that assessment.
I have also compared it to the Saturday morning CGI series.

But that was because I was under the impression it was for general cimema release, and am feeling a bit more forgiving knowing it wasn't meant as such.

There is no reason of course why a straight to DvD couldn't be epic and awesome. The Saturday morning TV thing tells you where they are marketing the film perhaps? Though some of the blood suggests otherwise.

I still feel it was a missed opprtunity. Hope for better next time

Not buying it.

First and foremost, the trailer was atrocious. Too much one dimensional "Spehse Mahreens fighting for the glorious honor of the honorable glory of glorious glory" covered in ridiculous bling-bling with braindead throw-away Chaos Space Marine opponents (which, really shouldn't be the case given that they are Chaos Space Marines) being gunned down like fodder. Not interesting in the least.

Second, the animation would have been satisfactory a decade ago. The trailer looked incredibly dated.


Give me and "All quiet on the Western Front" or "Stalingrad" with Guardsmen and Space Marines facing the horrors of war and the terror of Chaos, staving off the temptations and ruination of corruption, or a "Requiem for a Dream" style descent into Chaos and Madness, and I'd buy it in a heartbeat.


A 1-dimensional power armor one sided curbstomping? That's a big *PASS*.

IvanTih wrote:Only things that bugs me is how CSM die so easily in the trailer.Dan Abnett what have you done!

As much as I like some of Abnett's stuff, this is the same guy that had a Tac Marine squad in Brothers of the Snake massacre literally *thousands* of Dark Eldar.

Yeah, he's spanking on the marines way too hard, and it's boring and stupid.

Vaktathi wrote:Not buying it.

First and foremost, the trailer was atrocious. Too much one dimensional "Spehse Mahreens fighting for the glorious honor of the honorable glory of glorious glory" covered in ridiculous bling-bling with braindead throw-away Chaos Space Marine opponents (which, really shouldn't be the case given that they are Chaos Space Marines) being gunned down like fodder. Not interesting in the least.

Second, the animation would have been satisfactory a decade ago. The trailer looked incredibly dated.


Give me and "All quiet on the Western Front" or "Stalingrad" with Guardsmen and Space Marines facing the horrors of war and the terror of Chaos, staving off the temptations and ruination of corruption, or a "Requiem for a Dream" style descent into Chaos and Madness, and I'd buy it in a heartbeat.


A 1-dimensional power armor one sided curbstomping? That's a big *PASS*.

IvanTih wrote:Only things that bugs me is how CSM die so easily in the trailer.Dan Abnett what have you done!

As much as I like some of Abnett's stuff, this is the same guy that had a Tac Marine squad in Brothers of the Snake massacre literally *thousands* of Dark Eldar.

I was going to actually write a post - but this is everything I wanted to say.

he didn't slaughter Thousands of DE.

it was more like hundreds and IF hundreds of human sized creatures are fleeing through a corridor that isn't any wider then a small car i don't see how it isn't realistic for a 8ft man in an adamentium suit weilding a gun that fires small rocket propelled grenades to kill most of them.

Grey Templar wrote:he didn't slaughter Thousands of DE.

it was more like hundreds and IF hundreds of human sized creatures are fleeing through a corridor that isn't any wider then a small car i don't see how it isn't realistic for a 8ft man in an adamentium suit weilding a gun that fires small rocket propelled grenades to kill most of them.

Hrm, not so much, it very specifically says thousands (and hundreds is still ridiculous). Lets be honest, there's no way they'd have enough ammunition for such an endeavor, and IIRC it was a passage more than big enough for an entire tac squad to barricade and hunker down in.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:There is no reason of course why a straight to DvD couldn't be epic and awesome.

Exactly... Halo Legends, Dantes Inferno? Straight to DVD epicness!

And don't expect to see the greatest manga flicks made at the cinema anytime soon either!

I'm not. Every single character appears to be a Space Marine, there's none of 40k's awesome stuff in the trailers, and the animation is bad.

Vaktathi wrote:Lets be honest, there's no way they'd have enough ammunition for such an endeavor...

You're joking. Even if they didn't use melee, grenades, flamethrowers or anything else except their bolters, that's only 100+ bolts each. For comparison, a modern infantryman carries 200-350 rounds each.

SmackCakes wrote:

For me ATSKNF might have been something said 10,000 years ago by the Emperor himself. With a crack in his voice and vision in his eyes,. He would speak to his followers of a dream he had, of a future for mankind, of an army he will create. Stronger, Faster, Truer of heart... They will be steel, they will be doom... And they shall know no fear. ---> lux aeterna plays in the background.

But when I see the trailer for Ultramarines, it has them sitting around saying all this big stuff about themselves? "Ho ho and we shall know no fear". It just reminds me of a bunch of frat boys psyching themselves for a football game, and later they'll all be in the shower together, whipping each other on the ass with towels, being like "good game guys".

Oh Im sorry I thought you were being serious

geordie09 wrote:

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:There is no reason of course why a straight to DvD couldn't be epic and awesome.

Exactly... Halo Legends, Dantes Inferno? Straight to DVD epicness!

And don't expect to see the greatest manga flicks made at the cinema anytime soon either!

Exactly! I will pick up a copy with that philosophy in mind. I have found some great animated movies that never hit the theatrical release. Movies like Ninja Scroll, Appleseed, and Final Fantasy Advent Children come to mind.

IvanTih wrote:Only things that bugs me is how CSM die so easily in the trailer.Dan Abnett what have you done!

If they are slowed / mad / too busy laughing to realise that they are charging one by one and not all of them together then even squad of blind seniors with arthosis shooting from slings could do it too. That bothers me more.

But kill or be killed, it is all service to chaos - should pretty much cover it. Chaos marines wins! Yay!

SmackCakes wrote:
Also the script

For me ATSKNF might have been something said 10,000 years ago by the Emperor himself. With a crack in his voice and vision in his eyes,. He would speak to his followers of a dream he had, of a future for mankind, of an army he will create. Stronger, Faster, Truer of heart... They will be steel, they will be doom... And they shall know no fear. ---> lux aeterna plays in the background.

But when I see the trailer for Ultramarines, it has them sitting around saying all this big stuff about themselves? "Ho ho and we shall know no fear". It just reminds me of a bunch of frat boys psyching themselves for a football game, and later they'll all be in the shower together, whipping each other on the ass with towels, being like "good game guys".

I expect more from Space Marines. Aren't they meant to be the very embodiment of truth and nobility? Apparently that doesn't include modesty or humility any more.

This whole thing just reminds me of those crappy movie tie-in video games from the early 90s, which were really just quite poorly made generic games, which only ever sold because they bore a loose resemblance to a popular movie. Really they were just cashing in on the name, and inevitably disappointing though.

This feels the same way... it's got Ultramarines, it's got Chaos, it's got some copy pasta lines from the source books, it's got low quality Saturday morning cartoon animation, and apparently little in the way of depth or imagination. Space Marines go somewhere > discover chaos > beat chaos > yawn.

No. They are supposed to be fanatical, zealous, narrow-minded and skilled. And because warhammer was not invented by aliens(that would hav been heresy!), they were really really juuuust a litle maybe they totaly did it inspired by large numbers of existing / extinct religious groups - and those like to quote alot. You know what I mean? :Facepalm for lack of social comprehension.:

Vaktathi wrote:Not buying it.

First and foremost, the trailer was atrocious. Too much one dimensional "Spehse Mahreens fighting for the glorious honor of the honorable glory of glorious glory" covered in ridiculous bling-bling with braindead throw-away Chaos Space Marine opponents (which, really shouldn't be the case given that they are Chaos Space Marines) being gunned down like fodder. Not interesting in the least.

Second, the animation would have been satisfactory a decade ago. The trailer looked incredibly dated.


Give me and "All quiet on the Western Front" or "Stalingrad" with Guardsmen and Space Marines facing the horrors of war and the terror of Chaos, staving off the temptations and ruination of corruption, or a "Requiem for a Dream" style descent into Chaos and Madness, and I'd buy it in a heartbeat.


A 1-dimensional power armor one sided curbstomping? That's a big *PASS*.

IvanTih wrote:Only things that bugs me is how CSM die so easily in the trailer.Dan Abnett what have you done!

As much as I like some of Abnett's stuff, this is the same guy that had a Tac Marine squad in Brothers of the Snake massacre literally *thousands* of Dark Eldar.

You are talking like you saw million warhammer 40 k movies doing just that. But you know, I think you didnt saw even one. Guess why? Yeah I agree it would be boring cliche if it would repeat and repeat and repeat - but hey dudes and dudies its for the first frikkin time! How can you even think of it as boring or repeating when it never happened before? Do you remember your "first time"? Didnt shine either did ya? Stick with the basics, carry on with more "complex" stuff later.


I have a very bad feeling...That some of you...Feel like they are a little "above" the others...Enlightened in terms of intellect and taste... That they are privileged to dictate what is "good" and what is "bad"...While being farseers of course, because trailer is ALL what we have seen so far. This kind of behaviour - despite the fact it is encoutered often, still makes me want vomit. Even right to express your opinions freely should not cover blind sheepism like:"thissuxcuzisaiditalthoughidontknowanythingaboutit".

Chill out and be optimistic for a while. If it will sux then it will sux, but it will be decided AFTER the movie is released. I just do NOT understand like anyone, who is 40K fan, can ignore this 1st attempt even if it will be biggest bull*hit of the universe. Thats why I am buying it. To give it a chance.

Who ISN'T ordering it. This movie has done wonders for the popularity of GW. Even my two friends who think GW is *geeky and lame* to put it mildly.....

Well today they went down to the store to choose armies, simply because there is an movie coming out. Who cares if its not that good graphicwise. Dan Abnett script, space marines and chaos marines. That sounds awesome.

And for you guys who say its a rental. Get fethed. Really, not going to support a small film company then because they don't do good graphics. DOW was worth millions.

AlexHolker wrote:I'm not. Every single character appears to be a Space Marine, there's none of 40k's awesome stuff in the trailers, and the animation is bad.

Vaktathi wrote:Lets be honest, there's no way they'd have enough ammunition for such an endeavor...

You're joking. Even if they didn't use melee, grenades, flamethrowers or anything else except their bolters, that's only 100+ bolts each. For comparison, a modern infantryman carries 200-350 rounds each.

and has an appauling accuracy rate. 90% of the ammo gets used providing covering fire for the rest of the squad because modern body armor can't protect from much more then a handgun bullet and troopers spend alot of time hiding.

when your armor is virtually impenatrable to small arms fire, and your body to pain and damage, you can do 1 shot, 1 kill stuff and expose yourself.

AlexHolker wrote:I'm not. Every single character appears to be a Space Marine, there's none of 40k's awesome stuff in the trailers, and the animation is bad.

Vaktathi wrote:Lets be honest, there's no way they'd have enough ammunition for such an endeavor...

You're joking. Even if they didn't use melee, grenades, flamethrowers or anything else except their bolters, that's only 100+ bolts each. For comparison, a modern infantryman carries 200-350 rounds each.

Do you have *any* idea how many rounds it takes to kill a single enemy combatant on a modern battlefield? In Iraq currently, US forces expend about 250,000-300,000 bullets are fired in combat for every opponent killed. In vietnam, in many ways a more direct war, it took about 50,000 bullets, and even in WW2 where combat was extremely direct, it took about 20,000.

Even accounting for Spehse Mahreen accuracy and cramped quarters, carrying a couple hundred rounds each isn't going to do it. And lets not go into where on earth they are keeping all those spare bolter rounds with no packs, pouches, compartments, bandoliers, etc on their pristine armor.

And lets be honest here, the Dark Eldar aren't exactly slouches in combat either.

Jolrael wrote:You are talking like you saw million warhammer 40 k movies doing just that. But you know, I think you didnt saw even one. Guess why?

Just because it hasn't explicitly been done as a Warhammer 40,000 movie before doesn't mean it hasn't been done. Have you never seen Rambo or Commando?

Yeah I agree it would be boring cliche if it would repeat and repeat and repeat - but hey dudes and dudies its for the first frikkin time!

It's also the same thing I've read in just about every single Space Marine novel ad nauseum. Good Guy Space Marines show up somewhere, repeat the same lines about glory, honor, for the chapter, etc. and walk through an opponent to achieve some miraculous task. It's been done before.

I bet I can also tell you exactly how it's going to play out.

Ultramarines hear about Heretic Space Marines. "FOR THE EMPEROR!" sounded. ad nauseum talk about glory, honor, and maccrage given. Talk about how it may be a suicide mission, about how main characters are ready to die for The Emperor!. Space Marines show up, fight Chaos Space Marines over some artifact/planet/ship/other objective and brainless idiot Chaos Space Marines get scythed down by Glorious Ultramarines for Great Honorable Glory! Against despite apparently overwhelming odds, Ultramarines defeat Heretic Marines and slay them in droves for comparatively light losses (token casualties of course will be sustained) and the Glorious Ultramarines save the day!

I have a very bad feeling...That some of you...Feel like they are a little "above" the others...Enlightened in terms of intellect and taste... That they are privileged to dictate what is "good" and what is "bad"...While being farseers of course, because trailer is ALL what we have seen so far. This kind of behaviour - despite the fact it is encoutered often, still makes me want vomit. Even right to express your opinions freely should not cover blind sheepism like:"thissuxcuzisaiditalthoughidontknowanythingaboutit".

Go ahead and vomit. The trailor did nothing but confirm every suspicion I have, and conforms very closely to what I just posted above as a likely storyline.

Chill out and be optimistic for a while. If it will sux then it will sux, but it will be decided AFTER the movie is released. I just do NOT understand like anyone, who is 40K fan, can ignore this 1st attempt even if it will be biggest bull*hit of the universe. Thats why I am buying it. To give it a chance.

Trailers are there typically to give an idea of what a movie is like, movies don't too typically differ radically from the trailer, especially direct to DVD films. The trailer was the chance. If it turns out to be radically different, minds may change. How likely do you think that to be however? I've seen plenty of Macho Actionman movies, I was hoping for something a little more interesting than an Ultramarine circle-jerk film that would explore more of the depth of the Warhammer 40,000 universe and what it truly means to live in a time where there is constant war in an oppressive religious police state and the alternative is horrifically unthinkable.

Vaktathi wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:I'm not. Every single character appears to be a Space Marine, there's none of 40k's awesome stuff in the trailers, and the animation is bad.

Vaktathi wrote:Lets be honest, there's no way they'd have enough ammunition for such an endeavor...

You're joking. Even if they didn't use melee, grenades, flamethrowers or anything else except their bolters, that's only 100+ bolts each. For comparison, a modern infantryman carries 200-350 rounds each.

Do you have *any* idea how many rounds it takes to kill a single enemy combatant on a modern battlefield? In Iraq currently, US forces expend about 250,000-300,000 bullets are fired in combat for every opponent killed. In vietnam, in many ways a more direct war, it took about 50,000 bullets, and even in WW2 where combat was extremely direct, it took about 20,000.

Even accounting for Spehse Mahreen accuracy and cramped quarters, carrying a couple hundred rounds each isn't going to do it. And lets not go into where on earth they are keeping all those spare bolter rounds with no packs, pouches, compartments, bandoliers, etc on their pristine armor.

And lets be honest here, the Dark Eldar aren't exactly slouches in combat either.

Jolrael wrote:You are talking like you saw million warhammer 40 k movies doing just that. But you know, I think you didnt saw even one. Guess why?

Just because it hasn't explicitly been done as a Warhammer 40,000 movie before doesn't mean it hasn't been done. Have you never seen Rambo or Commando?

Yeah I agree it would be boring cliche if it would repeat and repeat and repeat - but hey dudes and dudies its for the first frikkin time!

It's also the same thing I've read in just about every single Space Marine novel ad nauseum. Good Guy Space Marines show up somewhere, repeat the same lines about glory, honor, for the chapter, etc. and walk through an opponent to achieve some miraculous task. It's been done before.

I bet I can also tell you exactly how it's going to play out.

Ultramarines hear about Heretic Space Marines. "FOR THE EMPEROR!" sounded. ad nauseum talk about glory, honor, and maccrage given. Talk about how it may be a suicide mission, about how main characters are ready to die for The Emperor!. Space Marines show up, fight Chaos Space Marines over some artifact/planet/ship/other objective and brainless idiot Chaos Space Marines get scythed down by Glorious Ultramarines for Great Honorable Glory! Against despite apparently overwhelming odds, Ultramarines defeat Heretic Marines and slay them in droves for comparatively light losses (token casualties of course will be sustained) and the Glorious Ultramarines save the day!

I have a very bad feeling...That some of you...Feel like they are a little "above" the others...Enlightened in terms of intellect and taste... That they are privileged to dictate what is "good" and what is "bad"...While being farseers of course, because trailer is ALL what we have seen so far. This kind of behaviour - despite the fact it is encoutered often, still makes me want vomit. Even right to express your opinions freely should not cover blind sheepism like:"thissuxcuzisaiditalthoughidontknowanythingaboutit".

Go ahead and vomit. The trailor did nothing but confirm every suspicion I have, and conforms very closely to what I just posted above as a likely storyline.

Chill out and be optimistic for a while. If it will sux then it will sux, but it will be decided AFTER the movie is released. I just do NOT understand like anyone, who is 40K fan, can ignore this 1st attempt even if it will be biggest bull*hit of the universe. Thats why I am buying it. To give it a chance.

Trailers are there typically to give an idea of what a movie is like, movies don't too typically differ radically from the trailer, especially direct to DVD films. The trailer was the chance. If it turns out to be radically different, minds may change. How likely do you think that to be however? I've seen plenty of Macho Actionman movies, I was hoping for something a little more interesting than an Ultramarine circle-jerk film that would explore more of the depth of the Warhammer 40,000 universe and what it truly means to live in a time where there is constant war in an oppressive religious police state and the alternative is horrifically unthinkable.

Jees, you don't half go on mate. We get it, you aint buying it! Fact is that you've seen two minutes of trailer and made your mind up. Like many others it must be very narrow!

It's not just the Ultramarines film, it's this site. Too many people just want to have a bitch and moan without giving anything or, in relation to this forum, anybody a chance. You don't like peoples opinions... then they must be stupid and vapid eh?

How anybody can "know" anything about a film they aint seen is beyond me. I aint gona rip into 300 until I've seen it and know its homoerotic! Still, 300 is mint. Maybe I should have used a different example!

Maybe it will be a bunch a cirled Ultramarines giving it the large one about honour etc, but it is called Ultramarines. If you want to see them struggle with their dark past or deal with the depravities of chaos and their decent into madness then you'll have to support the film company until they make "Dark Angels" or "Emperors Children" or "whatever else it may be that gets those that say nay to say yay for a change."

Jees, you don't half go on mate. We get it, you aint buying it! Fact is that you've seen two minutes of trailer and made your mind up. Like many others it must be very narrow!

I like how anyone who isn't super enthused automatically has a narrow mind, and it has absolutely nothing to do with what is known and has been seen of this film. This is a thread about if you are or are not buying it and the reasons why. Not seeing whats so bad about expressing why I'm not.

It's not just the Ultramarines film, it's this site. Too many people just want to have a bitch and moan without giving anything or, in relation to this forum, anybody a chance. You don't like peoples opinions... then they must be stupid and vapid eh?

Where did I say that? Kindly stop putting words in my mouth.

How anybody can "know" anything about a film they aint seen is beyond me. I aint gona rip into 300 until I've seen it and know its homoerotic! Still, 300 is mint. Maybe I should have used a different example!

Let me put it this way, how different did 300 turn out to be compared to its trailer? Not very. 300 delivered what the trailer promised, lots of almost naked oiled up dudes slaughtering hordes of extras and weird creatures in a semi-mythical revisionist Greek setting. The Ultramarines trailer shows lots of "For Macragge!" and "We shall know no fear!" and hordes of expendable bad guys being slaughtered. How many people expect the movie to be significantly different?

Maybe it will be a bunch a cirled Ultramarines giving it the large one about honour etc, but it is called Ultramarines. If you want to see them struggle with their dark past or deal with the depravities of chaos and their decent into madness then you'll have to support the film company until they make "Dark Angels" or "Emperors Children" or "whatever else it may be that gets those that say nay to say yay for a change."

So, I have to spend a not insignificant amount of money on something that has a very high likelyhood of being total tripe, likely multiple times (of probably nothing but films with entire casts of nothing but Space Marines on both sides), until they make something decent? Pass.

Thank you for confirming my thesis Vaschkaschi.

Was it really that hard to spell my forum name with it right in front of you?

I'll buy it when (and if) its like, $20

Vaktathi wrote:Was it really that hard to spell my forum name with it right in front of you?

You do not realize what happened do you? Carry on Vaschkaschi.


Ill remain optimistic enough to hope that mentionned rivality between two battle - brothers (one claiming he is future of the chapter- oOo such ambition should not go unrewarded!), 2+ mentionned chapters with possibility of treachery(lets pray that good ultramarines will not kick bad imperial fists ass) and at the end apothecary kicked some other space marines ass - can create SOME plot worth watching.

...Well if not then practice makes perfect xD.

Apparently it was either not clever enough or executed properly to get. If you need to resort to trolling a forum name instead of arguing points and merits, then you should probably stop.

a moderator wrote:Please use the names users have chosen for themselves.

It makes for a more pleasant atmosphere in the forums.

It seems I am incapable of following simple instructions, even when politely requested to do so !

geordie09 wrote:

Exactly... Halo Legends, Dantes Inferno? Straight to DVD epicness!

Except Legends was terrible terrible garbage that took a massive dump on Halo Canon, similar to what the Clone Wars CGI show is doing for the Star Wars Universe.

Also, NOPE, I will not waste my money on this.

I've bought it because I like 40K and am interested to see what it is like. I agree it is expensive for the length of film but hey no one forces you to buy it. Hopefully it will be an enjoyable distraction for an hour or so.

It's not just the Ultramarines film, it's this site. Too many people just want to have a bitch and moan without giving anything or, in relation to this forum, anybody a chance. You don't like peoples opinions... then they must be stupid and vapid eh?

Where did I say that? Kindly stop putting words in my mouth.

Look at what I said again... "It's this site"

So, I have to spend a not insignificant amount of money on something that has a very high likelyhood of being total tripe, likely multiple times (of probably nothing but films with entire casts of nothing but Space Marines on both sides), until they make something decent? Pass.

Your argument would hold weight if the limited edition, special bundle was actually the only way of purchasing the dvd. It will be on general release and a damn sight cheaper in the spring. Wait until spring, buy it cheaper. As long as it has backing they will be able to branch out...

George Lucas made Star Wars right... he THX 1138 before that! (He has also ruined Star Wars and continues to do so, but thats not the point) Not that i think they'll produce anything as momentous but even if Ultramarines is utter crap, further ventures will have to improve in order to keep the market interested!