When I changed my Avatar the last time I got a PM from Victor von Domm and we started talking about Terry Pratchet's Discworld.

I've recently started reading the books again. After I read Unseen Academics I was really hooked and decided to re-buy all the books I read when I was 12 and am now going through the Watchmen stuff first.

So I thought it might be a nice idea to talk a little about the books and what we like about them. And also, one thing that really surprises me, that Pratchet seems to get better at writing, which is surprising considering his medical condition.

Another fan!

I really struggled with Unseen Academicals, maybe it was the subject or whatever but it is the first Prachett book that I haven't completed and I got it for Christmas last year! I was thinking that maybe because of his condition I don't like it, maybe something has changed?

I have tried to get into it but something is blocking me form taking it off the shelves.

Currently The witches are giving me my Pratchett fix, Nanny Ogg and Weatherwax are making me smile on my dreary bus journeys through Birmingham.

I will be re reading the watch series soon, oh yes. My favourites of all Pratchetts creations I love the portrayal of the rag tag force and their evolution from being less than nothing to actually doing something. I really enjoy the exchanges between Vimes and the Patrician Nobby Nobbs and Fred Colon are nothing short of genius either. Nobbys life is ...fascinating.

I think I have all but the newest ones. Also have a couple of the companion books as well.

Every so often I will re-read one (or several). I think the world has changed so much since the earlier books - it is a lot more structured now than it was and so has, perhaps, lost some of its charm, even if the newer books are more polished.

Personally I like Monstrous Regiment the most, followed by the Night Watch books.

Another 'Watch' fan here.

I've read Feet Of Clay like, 10 times.

I know Sky (on UK TV) do a good job with the Pratchett works but I would love to see a Watch film or mini series.

Viimes from no hope drunk to kick ass commander (but still plagued by the campaign for equal heights) would be ace.

There are some great scenes in the series. Some of my favorites:

The patrician is imprisoned, vimes gets thrown in with him, and Vimes notices the interesting fact about the door.
Vimes goes off to Underwald, Carrot follows along, leaving Colon in charge, and he ends up creating the lowest crime rate ever in Ankh-Morpork.
Granny Weatherwax heroicly forcing the energy of the transformation into an anvil, and Hodgesaargh ruining the dramatic look by heating a kettle on it.
Cohen the barbarian explaining why they're not worried about a handfull of old men facing half a dozen armies, especially combined with...
Cohen the barbarian and his cronies realizing they have no chance at all against carrot because they outnumber him, especially when they establish that his sword is completely non-magical.

Mr. Burning wrote:I know Sky (on UK TV) do a good job with the Pratchett works but I would love to see a Watch film or mini series.

Viimes from no hope drunk to kick ass commander (but still plagued by the campaign for equal heights) would be ace.

I'm thinking Sean Bean as Vimes.

'One does not simply walk into Morpork!'

'The very air you breathe is a poisonous fume...that and Dibblers sausages'

Mr. Burning wrote:I know Sky (on UK TV) do a good job with the Pratchett works but I would love to see a Watch film or mini series.

Viimes from no hope drunk to kick ass commander (but still plagued by the campaign for equal heights) would be ace.

From the 3 movies I've only seen Colors of Magic. I started with Hogfather, but never got around to finish it. Paul Kidby, the guy who's doing most of the Discworld art these days, including my current Avatar, always draws Vimes a bit like Clint Eastwood. Too bad he's to old to really get into the character at this point.

And Sean Bean can't play Vimes. He doesn't die.

Mr. Burning wrote:I really struggled with Unseen Academicals, maybe it was the subject or whatever but it is the first Prachett book that I haven't completed and I got it for Christmas last year! I was thinking that maybe because of his condition I don't like it, maybe something has changed?

Funny thing: I hate soccer/football and everything related to it but I just loved Unseen Academics.

I'm really not sure what to think about Pratchet's state of health though. He must have someone helping him with the writing, I just wish I knew who.

btw. here's an interesting rumor: Apperantly the Disney animation studios are working on Mort.

Anung Un Rama wrote:

Mr. Burning wrote:I know Sky (on UK TV) do a good job with the Pratchett works but I would love to see a Watch film or mini series.

Viimes from no hope drunk to kick ass commander (but still plagued by the campaign for equal heights) would be ace.

From the 3 movies I've only seen Colors of Magic. I started with Hogfather, but never got around to finish it. Paul Kidby, the guy who's doing most of the Discworld art these days, including my current Avatar, always draws Vimes a bit like Clint Eastwood. Too bad he's to old to really get into the character at this point.

And Sean Bean can't play Vimes. He doesn't die.

Mr. Burning wrote:I really struggled with Unseen Academicals, maybe it was the subject or whatever but it is the first Prachett book that I haven't completed and I got it for Christmas last year! I was thinking that maybe because of his condition I don't like it, maybe something has changed?

Funny thing: I hate soccer/football and everything related to it but I just loved Unseen Academics.

I'm really not sure what to think about Pratchet's state of health though. He must have someone helping him with the writing, I just wish I knew who.

btw. here's an interesting rumor: Apperantly the Disney animation studios are working on Mort.

Try and find the BBC series about Pratchett living with Alzhiemers his aide does shed load of stuff for him.

Anung Un Rama wrote:

Mr. Burning wrote:I know Sky (on UK TV) do a good job with the Pratchett works but I would love to see a Watch film or mini series.

Viimes from no hope drunk to kick ass commander (but still plagued by the campaign for equal heights) would be ace.

From the 3 movies I've only seen Colors of Magic. I started with Hogfather, but never got around to finish it. Paul Kidby, the guy who's doing most of the Discworld art these days, including my current Avatar, always draws Vimes a bit like Clint Eastwood. Too bad he's to old to really get into the character at this point.

And Sean Bean can't play Vimes. He doesn't die.

Mr. Burning wrote:I really struggled with Unseen Academicals, maybe it was the subject or whatever but it is the first Prachett book that I haven't completed and I got it for Christmas last year! I was thinking that maybe because of his condition I don't like it, maybe something has changed?

Funny thing: I hate soccer/football and everything related to it but I just loved Unseen Academics.

I'm really not sure what to think about Pratchet's state of health though. He must have someone helping him with the writing, I just wish I knew who.

btw. here's an interesting rumor: Apperantly the Disney animation studios are working on Mort.

I didn't dislike "Mort" but it wasn't my favorite book of his either, not by a long shot.

I've been reading most of the discworld books in French and in English.

It's hard to tell which one is my favorite, so many of them are great books...but those involving the librarian are the best!

Hyenajoe wrote:I've been reading most of the discworld books in French and in English.

It's hard to tell which one is my favorite, so many of them are great books...but those involving the librarian are the best!

Ook!



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Anung Un Rama wrote:

Mr. Burning wrote:I know Sky (on UK TV) do a good job with the Pratchett works but I would love to see a Watch film or mini series.

Viimes from no hope drunk to kick ass commander (but still plagued by the campaign for equal heights) would be ace.

From the 3 movies I've only seen Colors of Magic. I started with Hogfather, but never got around to finish it. Paul Kidby, the guy who's doing most of the Discworld art these days, including my current Avatar, always draws Vimes a bit like Clint Eastwood. Too bad he's to old to really get into the character at this point.

And Sean Bean can't play Vimes. He doesn't die.

Mr. Burning wrote:I really struggled with Unseen Academicals, maybe it was the subject or whatever but it is the first Prachett book that I haven't completed and I got it for Christmas last year! I was thinking that maybe because of his condition I don't like it, maybe something has changed?

Funny thing: I hate soccer/football and everything related to it but I just loved Unseen Academics.

I'm really not sure what to think about Pratchet's state of health though. He must have someone helping him with the writing, I just wish I knew who.

btw. here's an interesting rumor: Apperantly the Disney animation studios are working on Mort.

I didn't dislike "Mort" but it wasn't my favorite book of his either, not by a long shot.

It could be interesting to see what they come up with, Death in my mid is pretty definite (Sky do the look well) hopefully they will treat Kirbys art like new line/jackson did Alan Lee and Ted Naismith (as a set in stone template).

I never liked Josh Kirby's art. I hardly recognize half the characters he draws and I just HATE the fact that draws Rincewind like an old man.

Paul Kidby's art on the other hand is nothing short of brilliant imho. He paints the characters EXACTLY like I always thought they should look.

Big Discworld fan here.

I'm short by one/two books.

And I have to say the watch ones are my favourite ones too. ^.^

Mr. Burning wrote:Try and find the BBC series about Pratchett living with Alzhiemers his aide does shed load of stuff for him.

I know that he can't type himself anymore, I'm just wondering if he has help with the creative process.

Anung Un Rama wrote:I never liked Josh Kirby's art. I hardly recognize half the characters he draws and I just HATE the fact that draws Rincewind like an old man.

Paul Kidby's art on the other hand is nothing short of brilliant imho. He paints the characters EXACTLY like I always thought they should look.

You know, I always get kidby and kirby mixed up.....

Mr. Burning wrote:

Anung Un Rama wrote:I never liked Josh Kirby's art. I hardly recognize half the characters he draws and I just HATE the fact that draws Rincewind like an old man.

Paul Kidby's art on the other hand is nothing short of brilliant imho. He paints the characters EXACTLY like I always thought they should look.

You know, I always get kidby and kirby mixed up.....

This is Josh Kirby's cover from Guards! Guards!


This is Paul Kidby's take on the same book.



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And this is Kirby's Rincewind:


Now compare that with Paul Kidby's Rincewind:

It's a tricky one - I definitely agree that Kidby makes the characters look more like I imagined them, but I grew up with the Kirby cover art, so it'll always have a place in my heart.

Albatross wrote:It's a tricky one - I definitely agree that Kidby makes the characters look more like I imagined them, but I grew up with the Kirby cover art, so it'll always have a place in my heart.

I'm with this dude.

I also grew up with the old art, but I didn't like it back then either

I didn't say I liked it. Just find it nostalgic.

It's not bad but goes overboard with a cartoon/comic style whereas the newer dude is more....real? The only way I can put it.

Pratchett is indeed genius. I'm also a fan of the Night Watch (Guards! Guards! Men at Arms & Feet of Clay would make a great film trilogy), but lets give a shout out to Granny Weatherwax, a witch who out thinks the enemy with logic rather than use magic. Witches Abroad is a favourite as she goes up against her sister to stop a servant girl from marrying a prince. You can't fight a happy ending... until now!

Also a massive Pratchett fan here. Love the Watch but my favourite must be Monstrous Regiment. Such an awesome book.
Also I really hated the old style art and am so glad about the new guy doing it.

I must say with all this bashing on the old art I did like it. I just like the new stuff a bit better. Some of the old art was good.

Hello my dear friends of the fine arts.

i truly feel privileged to be amogst kinred spirits.

to the artworks that portrayed the characters and events on the discworld i have to add that i also grew up with kirbys art and always thought that it looked that way more fantastic.
the new approach of kidby is more grim or better noir looking.
my favorite by far are as shown in anung un ramas avatar as in sam vimes and suzann sto helit



she sends shiver down my spine

my favorite storyline is by far the nightwatch line. vimes and his permanent struggle with his temper and his dark urges. carrot with his naivity and also his straight forwardness.
nobbys character could fill volumes and in certain aspects he is by far one of the greater minds of the discworld.the way he constantly tumbles colens views of stubbornnes and bigotery out of stupidity is very entertaining. also i like the new bunch of angua and detritus. oh there is so much of them...

and as my second favorite character i only can add esmeralda weatherwax. upright to the bone and sometimes able nevertheless to think herself through a corkscrew without herself turning. instead she turns people and peoples worlds around to her whim. tiffany aching is just terrys way of introducing a younger version of herself. always biting back and distinguishing between personal and important. you have to admire the lady (and she is a true lady).

it is a true loss of the literate world if the mind of pratchett will be lost to a stupid illness in the nothingness...

i have seen all his adaption on tv and think they are made good but don´t hit the spots i might have pointed out to be importent. so they were in some point unsatisfying. but that could also be said to many other literature adaptions as well...

as an ending note for now i find it very good to finally talk about my by far dearest atuthor and his mindworld...

thanks again a heap dakka to make that possible.

best regards, vik

Crivens! how on the disc did we get this far and not mention the multiverse's most homisidal travel acssesory? Or Death? or the Nac Mac Feegles, ye ken?

I like Prattchet's death, a wellmeaning enity who harbors a deep fasination in the creatures he "works" with. Also cats.

I've read and owned all of prattchets books, and the films. (the man himself makes an apperance in hogfather i think,) and i've loved them all.

the nac mac feegle, i daren´t go there. but they are the true anarchic element.
"Crivens! I kicked meself in ma ain heid"

Nae King! Nae Quin! Nae laird! Nae master! We willna be fooled again

long time of death for the nac mac feegles!

vik

Speaking of the luggage.

I had an idea to build a big version and use it as a steam tank in my empire army. (or was it to use it as the war alter....?)

VikingScott wrote:Speaking of the luggage.

I had an idea to build a big version and use it as a steam tank in my empire army. (or was it to use it as the war alter....?)

Do you know a Disc World themed army has crossed my mind once or twice, for fantasy.




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Viktor von Domm wrote:
my favorite storyline is by far the nightwatch line. vimes and his permanent struggle with his temper and his dark urges. carrot with his naivity and also his straight forwardness.
nobbys character could fill volumes and in certain aspects he is by far one of the greater minds of the discworld.the way he constantly tumbles colens views of stubbornnes and bigotery out of stupidity is very entertaining. also i like the new bunch of angua and detritus. oh there is so much of them...

Hey Vik, I think you need to take another look at Carrott, Terry has developed him in a fairly attractive way, especially the way other characters act around and view him.

i agree with you on Nobby Nobbs he is quite insightful, when he wants to be.

hmmm i would object against that. the nature of the discworld is mainly non hostile. also you would not do pratchett any tribute by doing so. it wouldn´t be something he would look upon pleased...

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:hmmm i would object against that. the nature of the discworld is mainly non hostile. also you would not do pratchett any tribute by doing so. it wouldn´t be something he would look upon pleased...

vik

With my record in table top battles, he would be faintly amused. Think of me like.....Lord Rust...

carrot represents the true spirit of a good king. also he wants to always see the good in men. he is hard as steel (as in man of steel in more than one occaisions) and loyal to the bone as well as honest.
i really like him but he is not what i would describe as a character i can fell myself in...(was that understandable?)
personaly he is somewhat a reverse version of vimes. and vimes is someone i can deply familirez with.


vik


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lol, yeah rust gods gift to the enemy^^

do you remeber the saying:

"charge men, and let them all slit our throats..."

not really quoted right. a nucklesandwich to who can quote it better...

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:carrot represents the true spirit of a good king. also he wants to always see the good in men. he is hard as steel (as in man of steel in more than one occaisions) and loyal to the bone as well as honest.
i really like him but he is not what i would describe as a character i can fell myself in...(was that understandable?)
personaly he is somewhat a reverse version of vimes. and vimes is someone i can deply familirez with.


vik

I understand.

Vimes is one of my favourite characters, Myself, I can see myself in Rincewinds shoes.

"My name's Mort!"

Oh man, these books are awesome. I try to get my friends to read some, as I only have every discworld, and to no avail. Why won't people just love Sir Terry Pratchett?

chowderhead13 wrote:"My name's Mort!"

Oh man, these books are awesome. I try to get my friends to read some, as I only have every discworld, and to no avail. Why won't people just love Sir Terry Pratchett?

Just keep preaching the word, brother, keep preaching the word.

And get a few pieces of ginger and Ginger Beer!

Why won't people just love Sir Terry Pratchett?

for that i´m at a total loss of words... i also have almost any of pratchett books, the non discwordbooks as well and i cant understand why people would not want to read him...

to quote Herny Jones sr. "we are preachers in a godless land"...

and i try to get as many people into reading his books as possible. sometimes feels like i´m a strange preacher...

would someone feel suitable enough as to interpret the meaning in favorite characters and the realtion to oneself?

or maybe not^^

well rincewind you say? got a whispy beard , do you?^^
and there i thought i had the speach impediment...(wizzard^^)
hase someone ver thought about his writing on his wizard hat? i think it stands for something like wizzzer like in the golden age of comics...a true natural speeder^^.

and @ chowderhead13, could you be more specific about what you like about mort? i lkke his decissions but what else is there that you like about him?

vik


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eeeeeeeiiihhhh plop^^ hissssss

I love his character. He randomly shouts "Mort!" at the most inappropriate of times, he is a klutz in his new form, and he is just acting a lot like, well, me! I like Mort because it was one, if not the only, Discworld book with a teenage main character. I felt he did a great job writing a star-struck young boy having to fill a man's (If you can call Death that) shoes.

with that description i can far better understand you.

thanks chowderhead13

vik

chowderhead13 wrote:I love his character. He randomly shouts "Mort!" at the most inappropriate of times, he is a klutz in his new form, and he is just acting a lot like, well, me! I like Mort because it was one, if not the only, Discworld book with a teenage main character. I felt he did a great job writing a star-struck young boy having to fill a man's (If you can call Death that) shoes.

I think Tiffany Aching takes the youngest main character award.

no it has to be from the book of equal rites the character Eskarina Smith, shes about not ready a teenager...

and also there was scourcery with Coin ...


vik

Lord Harrab wrote:

chowderhead13 wrote:I love his character. He randomly shouts "Mort!" at the most inappropriate of times, he is a klutz in his new form, and he is just acting a lot like, well, me! I like Mort because it was one, if not the only, Discworld book with a teenage main character. I felt he did a great job writing a star-struck young boy having to fill a man's (If you can call Death that) shoes.

I think Tiffany Aching takes the youngest main character award.

I don't really consider these books to be DW Canon. But hey, what the heck. She's, like, 15, right? Mort's 12.

I have all the books with their original cover art (since that is the art I grew up with ). The newer books obviously have the new style covers. Each have their place.

Love these books. Im really gutted that I haven't read all the watchman ones though. I find them my favourite story lines.

I've read

Guards! Guards!
Men at arms
feet of clay
Nightwatch
fifth elephant
Thud

I think I may have read another, but I cant quite recall...

My least favourite stories are the Witch ones. Dont get me wrong, I like them (have them all) but I much prefer Rincewinds endeavours, or Vimes's struggles.

Love the Discworld series- truly inspiring fiction.
Its particularly interesting to chart how the land and prose has changed throughout the series, from a High Fantasy setting with floating rocks inhabited by dragons described with florid prose, to a more Victorian setting with an increase of wry comments on society.

Oh, and in a Watch motion picture there can (IMO) be only one Sam Vimes: Hugh Laurie.

Edited because I can



Voice acting isn't perfect, but still entertaining.

he would be a good choice. as before mentioned the true personification will always be clint "stoneface" eastwood...

vik


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man spill the beans is this motion picture out there? where to be seen?

i´m anxious...

trembling vik

You bet the owner of the mended drum that it wouldn't catch fire!?!?!

chowderhead13 wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:

chowderhead13 wrote:I love his character. He randomly shouts "Mort!" at the most inappropriate of times, he is a klutz in his new form, and he is just acting a lot like, well, me! I like Mort because it was one, if not the only, Discworld book with a teenage main character. I felt he did a great job writing a star-struck young boy having to fill a man's (If you can call Death that) shoes.

I think Tiffany Aching takes the youngest main character award.

I don't really consider these books to be DW Canon. But hey, what the heck. She's, like, 15, right? Mort's 12.

I think she was 10 in the first book, 13 in the second 14 in the third and 16 in her last one.

sorry to talk against, she was nine years old. her soon then boyfreind was 11...

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:sorry to talk against, she was nine years old. her soon then boyfreind was 11...

vik

Its ok, i wasn't exactly sure of her age during the first one, thanks for the correction.

Leigen_Zero wrote:You bet the owner of the mended drum that it wouldn't catch fire!?!?!

"we wanted to know: was that big explosion the oil bond shop?"

Viktor von Domm wrote:hmmm i would object against that. the nature of the discworld is mainly non hostile. also you would not do pratchett any tribute by doing so. it wouldn´t be something he would look upon pleased...

vik

From an issue of SFX - a British sci fi/geek magazine

Terry Pratchett wrote:If I'd got into wargaming when I was a little bit younger I would have been lost to writing completely. I would have spent my whole time painting the little miniatures! I loved the figures. Had they come out when I was 13 I would have spent all my days meticulously painting tiny little dots. I seriously would have disappeared and been president of the Warhammer fan club instead of a novelist.

reds8n wrote:

Viktor von Domm wrote:hmmm i would object against that. the nature of the discworld is mainly non hostile. also you would not do pratchett any tribute by doing so. it wouldn´t be something he would look upon pleased...

vik

From an issue of SFX - a British sci fi/geek magazine

Terry Pratchett wrote:If I'd got into wargaming when I was a little bit younger I would have been lost to writing completely. I would have spent my whole time painting the little miniatures! I loved the figures. Had they come out when I was 13 I would have spent all my days meticulously painting tiny little dots. I seriously would have disappeared and been president of the Warhammer fan club instead of a novelist.

You've just blown this thread wide open. Enjoy your internets.


Let's try to think of actors to play our favourite Discworld characters. Might be fun. I'll start.

The Patrician: Just simply has to be Alan Rickman, for me. I always imagine him sounding and looking like him.

bang to rights man, alan rickman would be the living embodyment of the patrician...

do not let me deatin you any further...^^

have to think about someone fitting...

@reds8n that seems to have me ecaped...

but he wrote carpet people as well and his first version of this was more inthe line of fantasy more related to the likes of lotr or warhammer with epic balltes and so forth, iiric...

vik

Albatross wrote:Let's try to think of actors to play our favourite Discworld characters. Might be fun. I'll start.

The Patrician: Just simply has to be Alan Rickman, for me. I always imagine him sounding and looking like him.

QFT
Everytime I read about the Patrician I have Rickmans voice in my head. He would be perfect.

Just started reading Jingo again and once more the scenes between Vimes and Havelock crack me up. Also, is it just me or is this whole Ankh-Morpork/Klatch feud also some sort of social commentary? Seems still relevant today.

While I love Kidby's art of vimes, I have trouble imagening Eastwood in the role, mostly because he's so damn old. Eastwood, not Sam.
Sean Astin as TwoFlower was great, apart from the fact that the character probaly should be asian.

I can see Mackenzie Crook (pictured below) as Rincewind, and I would love Stephen Fry to do the voice of Death.

..yes..that'd work.

For Carrot : Tahmoh Penikett



He was "Helo" in the recent BSG remake.

..Philip Seymour Hoffman for the librarian maybe ?

I like Christopher Lee as Death.

On topic of Tiffany: I didn't really like the first two books but I really enjoyed the last one. Seems almost as if she became an intersting character with puberty. Or maybe it's just that the Tiffany books are intended as "children"-books and I'm just not that interested in a 10 year old traveling to the land of the fairies to rescue her brother.


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@reds8n: looks good, but does he have the right accent? ^^

Albatross wrote:I can see Mackenzie Crook (pictured below) as Rincewind, and I would love Stephen Fry to do the voice of Death.

Aye that was the only real stumbling block for me with Sky's 'Colour of Magic' although a good watch, I could never quite get over the stumbling block that was David Jason as Rincewind.

Someone like Mackenzie would have been much better.


Regarding the rumour of Mort and Disney, I so hope that turns out to be accurate.
Disney have been wondering what to do for a while once all the great fables ran out, and novels would be a brilliant place to go.

Would love to see their take on it.


Oh and as to actor and a character, not 100% but for some reason Rhys Ifans says Moist von Lipwig to me.

I thought that David Jason did a good job. He doesn't look like the typical Rincewind but I felt he adapted to the character.

Christopher lee would do very well as Death. He has the voice for it.

Riducually should be played by Brian Blessed.

VikingScott wrote:Christopher lee would do very well as Death. He has the voice for it.

Riducually should be played by Brian Blessed.

Would do? You know, that IS his voice in the Discworld movies.

And Brian Blessed as Ridcully is an inspired choice. He would have to tone his usual act down a bit though.

reds8n wrote:Tahmoh Penikett

Did you just put your elbow on the keyboard there? That's not a name, surely?

Is he a Yank? Because that would kind of work, I reckon. It would add to the 'Captain Fantastic' vibe he has going.

Hey, I just found out that Christopher Lee already voiced Death in the old Discworld cartoons.

Anung Un Rama wrote:

VikingScott wrote:Christopher lee would do very well as Death. He has the voice for it.

Riducually should be played by Brian Blessed.

Would do? You know, that IS his voice in the Discworld movies.

And Brian Blessed as Ridcully is an inspired choice. He would have to tone his usual act down a bit though.

I obviously wasn't paying too much attention to the movies then

Properly because I wanted to be able to forget anything that I didn't like about them

Cohen was not bad in Colors of Magic, but once again it's hard to find an actor who fits the part so good like Kidby's drawing.

i don´t know if you fellas know magret rutherford? anyone? she played the miss marple in the old movies...




she got the old aplle look just right...^^

vik

If she looses the evil eyes she'd be a good Nanny Ogg.


IDEA! Maggy Smith as Granny Weatherwax!

so tatally bought!!!
seriously sometimes i think that some characters were directly built by him off some real living celebs...

vik

reds8n wrote:

Viktor von Domm wrote:hmmm i would object against that. the nature of the discworld is mainly non hostile. also you would not do pratchett any tribute by doing so. it wouldn´t be something he would look upon pleased...

vik

From an issue of SFX - a British sci fi/geek magazine

Terry Pratchett wrote:If I'd got into wargaming when I was a little bit younger I would have been lost to writing completely. I would have spent my whole time painting the little miniatures! I loved the figures. Had they come out when I was 13 I would have spent all my days meticulously painting tiny little dots. I seriously would have disappeared and been president of the Warhammer fan club instead of a novelist.

OMGWTF AWESOME!! my respect and admiration for Sir Prattchet has been lifted to new hights, and it was very high before now.

I just cannot see dame Maggie Smith as Weatherwax or even ,Nanny Ogg. Prunella Scales could do it or maybe Victoria Wood

Rickman As Lord Vetinari would be great, maybe Patrick Stewart as well, just for the extra gravitas.

Peter Sellers could've done a great Nobby Nobbs.

I would suggest Miriam Margoyles



She's even got experience

Forgot about her.

reds8n wrote:I would suggest Miriam Margoyles



She's even got experience

So nanny ogg. Shed be great tellling all those single entendre jokes.

And i reckon niles would be good as the king of lancre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Niles_Crane.jpg

and this would make a great greebo in human form
Tell me that isnt

Despite the scars and the bad eye, the human Greebo's other eye glitters like the sins of angels, and his lazy smile is the downfall of saints. Female saints, anyway. He appears as a dastardly buccaneer ready to unbuckle any amount of swash; a six-foot, well muscled, grinning bully who radiates a greasy aura of raw sexual energy that can be felt several rooms away. Despite everything they see, women are still attracted to him.

And heres captain carrot/james bond

i think Miriam Margoyles is a bit on the fresh faced side... let her rest for a coupla years and she will fit right in...


at mr bruning: i searched for your female suggestions and could you please show us a resemblance to support your ideas with them? i cant see the character anywher in them, way to friendly and open they appear...

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:i think Miriam Margoyles is a bit on the fresh faced side..

...don't fancy yours much then mate.

pardon?

Lord Harrab wrote:I've read and owned all of prattchets books, and the films. (the man himself makes an apperance in hogfather i think,) and i've loved them all.

He's also appeared in colour of magic, light fantastic and going postal. Can't remember when he appears in colour of magic but in light fantastic he's on of the astromoners in Krull and in going postal he is one of the printers when they are getting the first set of stamps made.

Still reading Jingo. Okay, let me get this straight: Ankh-Morpork is at war with Klatch. All Morporkians seem to know about Klatch is, that they have lots of sand there and that it it "foreign". Then the current ruler Lord Rust (since Vetinary is on a secret mission) decides that all Klatchians living in Ankh-Morpork, even the ones born there, are to be send out of the country, because they could be spies and saboteurs.

That is some sort of political commentary, right?

Just started re-reading Night Watch, which is my favourite Pratchett book. He writes coppers extremely well.
Page 69 in the paperback is one of my favourite passages in any book.
My username on a lot of fora from when I was about 14 was the Luggage, I only changed to Da Boss for Dakka on a whim.
Pratchett is a legend, and not just his discworld stuff. Gotta love Good Omens, Dark Side of the Sun and the Johnny Maxwell triology.

Anung Un Rama wrote:Still reading Jingo. Okay, let me get this straight: Ankh-Morpork is at war with Klatch. All Morporkians seem to know about Klatch is, that they have lots of sand there and that it it "foreign". Then the current ruler Lord Rust (since Vetinary is on a secret mission) decides that all Klatchians living in Ankh-Morpork, even the ones born here, are to be send out of the country, because they could be spies and saboteurs.

That is some sort of political commentary, right?

Yes.


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Da Boss wrote: and the Johnny Maxwell triology.

I forgot he wrote those. I've read them. Good stuff. I've read whichever was a sci-fi one about landing on a 'disc like world' and they are trying to escape. I thought that was ok but not his best.

sure as hell, the story has much historical kicks like the arresting of japenese born american Citizen during WWII as well as modern Allusions with the first golf war...
i think the movie "the siege- der ausnahmezustand" is also a good reference for that book.

pretty direscenario. for vimes who wants peace and calm for his city, he find the avarege man lusting for foreign blood. the scene in the beginning with the captain of the boot (lost the name...) was particulary good writing of pratchett. he captured the mood of metooists and the likes quite well. one of my favorite books by the way due to the still very (and by the day more...) up-to-date problems western world vs arabic world...
pratchett is a very good humanist and delivers moralsistic neckslaps covered in humor...sometimes sad humor at that.
my favorite character in this book is by far 71hour achmed... he is the kind of guy that i think i would like to be in his position...

vik


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at da boss. whenever i read good omes i have at the end a tear in my eye. the end is so romantic. a young guy and the endless summer... it would have made mark twain pround of...

vik

The one with the flat world is Strata. I thought it had lots of really excellent ideas but was a bit let down by the execution. Not that I could do any better mind .
Especially loved the four armed fighting alien dude, he was cool.

i think to really admire that book you had to read some discworld books before... actually strata was my first pratchett book. after that i read darks side of the sun and then i got with color of light into discworld books...

vik

I think my first pratchett book was colour of magic, then I hopped all over the place. I read Carpet People, then Diggers, then Hogfather, and then started plowing through discworld. At some point I also read the Johnny Maxwell series and the sci fi books (I really like Dark Side of the Sun as a sci fi novel, actually. It had some neat ideas in there)

I think Pratchett hit his peak with Night Watch, but a lot of the newer stuff is deadly too. I didn't much like unseen academicals, but I Shall Wear Midnight was really very good, and I haven't been a big fan of Tiffany Aching since Wee Free Men (Which I adore).
Pratchett writes excellent kids books. The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents is one of the scariest kids books I've ever read, and they nearly always deal with important themes and thought provoking topics without being too heavy handed.
The worst pratchett book in my mind is Monstrous Regiment, the twist was just twisted a BIT too far.

Da Boss wrote:The worst pratchett book in my mind is Monstrous Regiment, the twist was just twisted a BIT too far.

I think that was the point.

I never got around to really read the non-discworld stuff. I read Carpet People years ago, but I don't think I really liked it. Anyone read NATION?

i second that, the regiment is of all the lamest book i´ve read. but nevertheless a good book.
so you´ve done me a great deal as i didn´t knew that there was a fourth novel of tiffany out there... didn´t do my homework good enough it seems...

thanks man for the hint...

do you consider books staring underage characters automaticly to be for kids? i wouldn´t go that far. i think the maxwell books or tiffany and also maurice have so many deep down meanings that they are not really directed to kids...
i think thats just a marketing plot to get more people to read his books...

as for the nac mac feegles, whenever i read a chaptere staring them i tend to read it aloud so to try to get a more scotish accent^^. i saw a vid on youtube onde where a true scotman made some reviews about the feegle books. he was brilliant with that sharp accent.

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:do you consider books staring underage characters automaticly to be for kids? i wouldn´t go that far. i think the maxwell books or tiffany and also maurice have so many deep down meanings that they are not really directed to kids...

Not Nececeralily, but the first Tiffany book feels a lot like a childrens book. The last one, I shall wear Midnight, was really good though.

Nation is pretty good. Not amazing compared to some of the better Diskworld books but has some really moving (and funny) moments.

when was it published, haven´t cought wind of it ...read nation as the latest one...

vik

My first pratchett book was probably one of the Johnny series. Johnny and the dead I think.

First Discworld was the Colour of magic and then the light fantastic.

nation is a good book. i took me a good time to have a run up to read it with more love but when i was cought i was cought for real. after rereading it i thought about the beginning : rather steampunkish...and liked it even more...

it is a bit sad that he definatly told the story in a way so that he wont do another book in that scene anymore.

and about the jonny maxwell series i liked the first one the most. there are so many hints on games and movies that made me laugh. just the teenage verson of ripley is worth a reread^^...

vik

Nation is one that I need to go out and get. I may treat myself to some more Pratchett for Christmas.

I can never get into the wee free men stuff, I try and sneak up on them in an attempt to surprise them, but I cannot get past the first few pages. Maybe its a mood thing?

the very forst pages are about what is in tiffanys head. she is very alone. and this creates a character thats a bit uneasy to follow through a story. is that your problem? i knew the nac mac feegles from wierd sister (or was it?) and therefore i was bidingmy time and read faithfully onwards. up until tiff used her brother as bait. then i was totaly bought on the book...

there were a few books in my life i couldn´t come to like reading so i stopped. i am currently reading 2034 (sorry for all eventual derails). i will read it through but i dont like it. its depressing and thats the thing to be said for pratchett books, they seldom make you depressed. nightwatch and thud were the few i would say did that to me, but they changed my moods by the page so i could stick to it...

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:the very forst pages are about what is in tiffanys head. she is very alone. and this creates a character thats a bit uneasy to follow through a story. is that your problem? i knew the nac mac feegles from wierd sister (or was it?) and therefore i was bidingmy time and read faithfully onwards. up until tiff used her brother as bait. then i was totaly bought on the book...

there were a few books in my life i couldn´t come to like reading so i stopped. i am currently reading 2034 (sorry for all eventual derails). i will read it through but i dont like it. its depressing and thats the thing to be said for pratchett books, they seldom make you depressed. nightwatch and thud were the few i would say did that to me, but they changed my moods by the page so i could stick to it...

vik

The feegles (Pictsies!) first made an aperance in carpe jugulum (spelling?), i think. The one with the magpyre vampires

sorry, your correct ...at least i think for now^^...got confused...^^ they do rescue the king of lancre and bring him to theri mount, non?

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:the very forst pages are about what is in tiffanys head. she is very alone. and this creates a character thats a bit uneasy to follow through a story. is that your problem? i knew the nac mac feegles from wierd sister (or was it?) and therefore i was bidingmy time and read faithfully onwards. up until tiff used her brother as bait. then i was totaly bought on the book...

there were a few books in my life i couldn´t come to like reading so i stopped. i am currently reading 2034 (sorry for all eventual derails). i will read it through but i dont like it. its depressing and thats the thing to be said for pratchett books, they seldom make you depressed. nightwatch and thud were the few i would say did that to me, but they changed my moods by the page so i could stick to it...

vik

maybe Its because i haev been locked in 'proper discworld' mode when trying to read them rather than looking at them as similar yet unique...I'll give them another try I think (I got rid of the wee free men hardback and a hatful of sky or whatever its was called).

well for my part i tkink wintersmith is by far the lamest of the three known to me. true there are some funny scenes in it, but for a true pratchett fan merre funnyness isn´t the whole meal... the first one has much to do with how we "taste" reality. its broody and moody and you come out a bit differently before you started to read it. cant say that for wintersmith tho.maybe its because the tiffany boks were so close together published that they are not so thoughtprovoking as "true" discworld novels...

as pratchetts powers are lessen by the days/years i would strongly recommend to read them nonetheless so to have something to read of him. i know i will miss getting new input from the discworld when he is not being able to publish anymore. may the godds go easy on his illness for himm and his family. if i would be in his position and feel my mind to slip from my grip i would probably shoot myself to spare me the misery...

vik, god is it dark and rainy out of my window...

Viktor von Domm wrote:well for my part i tkink wintersmith is by far the lamest of the three known to me. true there are some funny scenes in it, but for a true pratchett fan merre funnyness isn´t the whole meal... the first one has much to do with how we "taste" reality. its broody and moody and you come out a bit differently before you started to read it. cant say that for wintersmith tho.maybe its because the tiffany boks were so close together published that they are not so thoughtprovoking as "true" discworld novels...

as pratchetts powers are lessen by the days/years i would strongly recommend to read them nonetheless so to have something to read of him. i know i will miss getting new input from the discworld when he is not being able to publish anymore. may the godds go easy on his illness for himm and his family. if i would be in his position and feel my mind to slip from my grip i would probably shoot myself to spare me the misery...

vik, god is it dark and rainy out of my window...

I like your style Vik!

I think Sir Terry is very much committed to carrying on until the end, either through a cure or the bitter stages of dementia. maybe someone else can help but I cannot remember if he though assisted suicide was an option (for him at least?) He has one of the most voracious types of the disease.

well becomming ill, or disabled is one thing. to loose ones mind is like dieing with open eyes and that slice by slice...
i don´t know whats more brave stciking a barrel in ones mouth ore to stick to the very end (well the percieved end...) .
i just think the world will be a sadder place once he´s not able to write some more. but he will be truely immortla through his work. the thing with assisted suicide is, suicide is a brutal thing for the left ones... but to ask someone to do it for you is even a bit more hard onto the family and friends...
there are some things one shouldn´t think about on a cloudy and dark november day...now where were my razors ...a there is the booze... now what to do?

no only joking, bad taste joking at that...

vik

Thought this was going to be a thread about ultimate frisbee or discgolf or something, but after briefly reading through I am intrigued.
I've never read any Pratchett before (I don't think) but now I definitely want to. What's a good place to start?

Oh and isn't this the guy that made the sword from a meteorite?

rubiksnoob wrote:Thought this was going to be a thread about ultimate frisbee or discgolf or something, but after briefly reading through I am intrigued.
I've never read any Pratchett before (I don't think) but now I definitely want to. What's a good place to start?

Oh and isn't this the guy that made the sword from a meteorite?

I would try
The Colour of Magic
Wyrd sisters
Guards Guards

These will give a good general flavour and lead onto continuation of the main characters.

Going postal is also a good, fairly stand alone, start.



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Viktor von Domm wrote:well becomming ill, or disabled is one thing. to loose ones mind is like dieing with open eyes and that slice by slice...
i don´t know whats more brave stciking a barrel in ones mouth ore to stick to the very end (well the percieved end...) .
i just think the world will be a sadder place once he´s not able to write some more. but he will be truely immortla through his work. the thing with assisted suicide is, suicide is a brutal thing for the left ones... but to ask someone to do it for you is even a bit more hard onto the family and friends...
there are some things one shouldn´t think about on a cloudy and dark november day...now where were my razors ...a there is the booze... now what to do?

no only joking, bad taste joking at that...

vik

bad puns....

Sam Vimes felt like a class traitor every time he wore it. He hated being thought of as one of those people that wore stupid ornamental armour. It was gilt by association.

lol associate is all i want^^...

Mr. Burning wrote:

rubiksnoob wrote:Thought this was going to be a thread about ultimate frisbee or discgolf or something, but after briefly reading through I am intrigued.
I've never read any Pratchett before (I don't think) but now I definitely want to. What's a good place to start?

Oh and isn't this the guy that made the sword from a meteorite?

I would try
The Colour of Magic
Wyrd sisters
Guards Guards

These will give a good general flavour and lead onto continuation of the main characters.

Going postal is also a good, fairly stand alone, start.

Are the first titles you mentioned part of a series? Or does he have just a general universe in which he writes where all the stories take place, but aren't neccesarily related?

@rubiksnoob

The great thing about Pratchet is, that there is a lot of different stories, depending on what you like. Colors of magic and Light Phantastic are the first two books, they are more or less High Fantasy.
The Nghtwatch books, which Guards Guards is the first one of, are more like crime novels.

My first Discworld was Mort, it's the first book where Death is a Major Character.
There's just so many good places to start, but I think Guards Guards will do just fine.

rubiksnoob wrote:

Mr. Burning wrote:

rubiksnoob wrote:Thought this was going to be a thread about ultimate frisbee or discgolf or something, but after briefly reading through I am intrigued.
I've never read any Pratchett before (I don't think) but now I definitely want to. What's a good place to start?

Oh and isn't this the guy that made the sword from a meteorite?

I would try
The Colour of Magic
Wyrd sisters
Guards Guards

These will give a good general flavour and lead onto continuation of the main characters.

Going postal is also a good, fairly stand alone, start.

Are the first titles you mentioned part of a series? Or does he have just a general universe in which he writes where all the stories take place, but aren't neccesarily related?

These are all stand alone, you don't need any prior knowledge of the disc. These examples introduce important characters or groups such as Rincewind, The Watch, The witches and Moist Von Lipwig. if you like Pratchett and the setting you will definitely want to read more.

Death always crops up with comedy moments, whatever book you read.

be warned rubiksnoob you might find yourself to get addicted. its now your last chance to turn around and RUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!! or get absorbed as any other pratchett hesitant reader and gets enlisted to the fold of fans.
got my wife about a year into his books and although she still insist of reading him only once in a while she has read some of them. and will do so in the future...
vik

Just finished The 5th Elephant again. I have to say, this is my favourite Watch Novel so far (though nightwatch is already waiting). It has everything: a mystery, many new characters you can't be too sure about. Vimes fighting Werewolfs. This is another great book where it really shows how he has to hold back to not become what he fights.
Great Stuff! I wish they would make a movie out of this one.

i like the scene where he sits in the hot water and all the star naked werewolfs suround him. then he is bullied into the run and gets out with his freezing trousers...cant get bettern that...well maybe when the gloomy trousers of uncle vanja came into being^^...the axe for the tree, that was so funny yet so toned down humor...the pictures he draws ... never read another author who could do that...

vik

5th elefant is one of my favourites.

I'm afraid I'm reading them too fast. I still haven't found a real voice for vimes in my head and I can't shake the feeling that he doesn't get any better than in this book.

well since i´m a afther of three youngsters i have to disagree to you. i think thud and nightwatch are the best. and i say this because vimes will get pushed to the very limits of his self contral inthese books. the hiver in thud and the conundrum to make all things set right in nightwatch is something cruel to happen to vimes and how he masters these odds is for me the thing that makes these so good that i have read nigtwatch about 10 times and thud about 6 times at least...

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:well since i´m a afther of three youngsters i have to disagree to you. i think thud and nightwatch are the best. and i say this because vimes will get pushed to the very limits of his self contral inthese books. the hiver in thud and the conundrum to make all things set right in nightwatch is something cruel to happen to vimes and how he masters these odds is for me the thing that makes these so good that i have read nigtwatch about 10 times and thud about 6 times at least...

vik

Nightwatch is possibly my favourite over Thud.

in thuad there is a bit too much dwarf rumble i could do without, nightwatch is very down to earth. i even read the book just anew after i finished it. and i did that procedure often^^...

vik

just btw. you guys do know there's a whole range of 30mm Discworld Miniatures, right?
http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/discworld-miniatures-c-48.html

yep^^ and i always keep myself from bying a death or a vimes...
keeping myself in that way as i currently have no need for them but they would look really good on my parade shelf nevertheless... but first things first...

vik

rubiksnoob wrote:Thought this was going to be a thread about ultimate frisbee or discgolf or something, but after briefly reading through I am intrigued.
I've never read any Pratchett before (I don't think) but now I definitely want to. What's a good place to start?

Oh and isn't this the guy that made the sword from a meteorite?

The books for the most part can be read as standalone novels, but there groups of major characters who have several novels and you'll get more out of them reading those in order. But there's no real order to which of those groups you should read first. (Personally, I wouldn't start with Colour of Magic / Light Fantastic because while they have a charm all of their own, those being his early ones he hadn't fleshed out the world fully yet, and they don't give an acurate taste of what his best work is like).

Here's a useful pictorial guide:
http://www.au.lspace.org/books/reading-order-guides/the-discworld-reading-order-guide-20.jpg

that is a cool find, gives me a good scheme for the santa list for my wife^^ now she can go on shoping with a guide^^

vik

Okay, I finished Nightwatch and yes, it is also really good. But it's not that easy to compare to The Fifth Elephant imo. I'm not sure I could pick a favourite.

Kinda forgot to read Guards! Guards! again. Will change that now.

reread is always a good choice when having a book of pratchett^^

Have just finished re-reading Night Watch, it really is a superb book although Mort will always be my favorite Pratchett book as it was the first one of his that I read.

Truth! Justice! Freedom!

And a Hard-boiled Egg!

has someone here read nanny oggs cooking book?
would love to know if thats a good read too...

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:has someone here read nanny oggs cooking book?
would love to know if thats a good read too...

I have it. Some interesting recipies and not just jokes. There's one for Ridcully's special sauce and it really sounds like it would cause the same effects as in the book. There's also some minor Nanny Ogg stuff. It's enjoyable all in all.


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salute your avatar, very fitting and i like it a lot as it oozes authority so much...not, lol^^

best scene in hogfather? DEATH getting a grip of how to turn a doorknob...prizeless.

as for ridcullys special sauce, mind posting the recipe here? i love spicy stuff...would upgrade my dinner tomorow no end^^

vik

Nanny Ogg's cookbook is good. The first half is recipes which should all apparently work though I haven't tried any of them yet. The other half is Nanny Ogg's guide to things like ettiquette (covering ettiquette with witches, wizards, trolls and dwarves).

i´ve read a summarize of it, but to be honest is always so sticky sweet full of praise that i tend to be a nonbeliver. i dont know why i havnt bought it by now...hmmm where was my wishlist now?

vik

Am I allowed to post the recipe online?

ähm...*cough pm cogh* lol^^

vik, who hides in the mended drum...

As a follower of the Holy Pie I must start reading the scripture of the Pratchet.

sonofruss : Indeed, Pie-ous Brother, the Scripture of the Prophet Pratchett is on the Ordo Testudine Required Reading List

On Topic :

Like many of you, I have been a fan Pratchett's for many years (since the mid 90's come to think of it !).

As has been noted, his writing style has evolved over time - from the high fantasy of The Colour of Magic to his more satirical, but no less masterfully written, recent works including Going Postal and Making Money - but no matter which stage of this evolution you read there is always something to enjoy (IMO).

Personal favourites, for me, have to include the "Death" strand - Mort, Reaperman, Soul Music and Hogfather. Somehow I identify with Death's perspective of humanity and find his attempts to understand his charges under The Duty as endearing in an "Outsider" sort of way.

That is not to say I enjoy wider spectrum of the population of Pratchett's mind any less, simply that I identify with Death more (hey, I was a Geek/Nerd/whatever when I was younger so I'm rather familiar with the Outsider perspective)

Having read the entirety of this thread, I must agree that any prospective cast list SHOULD include Rickman as Vetinari and, picking up of the reference to Patrick Stewart in an earlier post, I would suggest him as being more Lord Downey (Chairman of the Assassins Guild) perhaps ?

On the subject of his Illness, I can say only this - when day comes when this creative (British ) genius leaves the mortal realm he will be worthy of The Sword (read Mort if this confuses you) and I will count myself as one of those lucky enough to be alive at a time when his works were as fresh and cutting as the social events they comment on with such surgically applied skills of parody and insight and cheerful raspberry blowing.

To plaigerise the works of another author, simply because the words are so fitting in this case...

"Each man is a spark in the darkness... Would that we all burn as bright"
(Graham McNeill, "Nightbringer")

(Oh, and yes.. that IS the Grim Squeeker in my avatar)

i have been gifted with unseen academicals and i am now in the process of reading it through and loving every minute of it . even if i am not a fan on football...might be the case tho when i´m done with the book^^

vik

Last one I read was "Reaper Man". While the Death moments are great and I love me some Unseen University shenigans, they whole plot about the growing malls was really, really weird. Even by Discworld standards.

And yes, Brian Blessed is Ridcully. I can't get his voice out of my head anymore.

Brian Blessed absolutley...who could best him in vim and beard? he would make a good range of dwarfes too...^^

Da Boss wrote:The worst pratchett book in my mind is Monstrous Regiment, the twist was just twisted a BIT too far.

You understood the inspiration though, right?

after reading it for the third time i had the same reaction as for every other pratchett book: rather feeling sad for having an end of a story...

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:after reading it for the third time i had the same reaction as for every other pratchett book: rather feeling sad for having an end of a story...

vik

Wait, was this thread just Thread-Post-Mortem-Cominicated? if so: awesome here's your hooded robe and skull ring.

OT: i enjoy these short trips into the Discworld, moors specifically those that involve the wizards or commander vim's.

cool reference to the book and nearly a good remark to thread life circle^^

vikes the man, he his my favorite too...

Can I get a "hell yeah!" ?

Sir Terry Pratchett has signed an agreement with TV production company, Prime Focus, to create a Discworld TV show, based on the adventures of Ankh-Morpork's City Watch. Pratchett's Discworld books have inspired a number of spinoffs, including miniseries and videogames, but this will be their first time as an ongoing TV show.

The city of Ankk-Morpork is a little like the real world Budapest, in that it is technically two cities very close together. On its cobbled streets walk humans, dwarves, trolls, golems, vampires, humans who think they're dwarves, werewolves, and a whole host of other fantasy races. The City Watch, under the able command of Samuel Vimes, has the difficult task of keeping some kind of order in the city,

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108476-Pratchett-Gives-Thumbs-Up-to-Discworld-Cop-Show

hmmm this could go both ways...
i hope they do their best...and the cast will be good...

by the way link was not working for me...(did take forever to open...)

Im a fan from back in my school days. Last one I read was Night Watch...

Before this, most of them were very entertaining. But this seemed to drag out, so I did not read anymore.

Can anyone cvouch for the newer novels being as entertaining as say, Mort or Equal Rites?

well the newer novels are certainly no high fantasy spiced with humor anymore... now pratchett tells detective stories...my opinion...all on discworld stil but mostly tehre is a crime happening...
all the favorite charcters apear regularly in his novels and i think he (pratchett) is getting more and morer of a teacher to his readers... but thats not menat as a complain from me... i like his take to showing faults in civilization and how rulers should be...

i would highly recommed the newer novels to all out there... there is always to my view a certain something in each bookfor everyone...
and believe me i have read each book a second time... some even right after the ending again...

Viktor von Domm wrote:well the newer novels are certainly no high fantasy spiced with humor anymore... now pratchett tells detective stories...my opinion...all on discworld stil but mostly tehre is a crime happening...
all the favorite charcters apear regularly in his novels and i think he (pratchett) is getting more and morer of a teacher to his readers... but thats not menat as a complain from me... i like his take to showing faults in civilization and how rulers should be...

i would highly recommed the newer novels to all out there... there is always to my view a certain something in each bookfor everyone...
and believe me i have read each book a second time... some even right after the ending again...

Thanks.

Though, this saddens me.

When do the novels stop being fantasy spiced with humour and become social-commentary?

It's been too long since I've read Discworld...

I think I've read every single one of them, except for some of the very new ones. Think I read up until Wintersmith.

The characters are each so unique and draw you into their lives so well.

...Onna stick.
...Inna bun.
-CMOT Dibbler

Anung Un Rama wrote:Can I get a "hell yeah!" ?

Sir Terry Pratchett has signed an agreement with TV production company, Prime Focus, to create a Discworld TV show, based on the adventures of Ankh-Morpork's City Watch. Pratchett's Discworld books have inspired a number of spinoffs, including miniseries and videogames, but this will be their first time as an ongoing TV show.

The city of Ankk-Morpork is a little like the real world Budapest, in that it is technically two cities very close together. On its cobbled streets walk humans, dwarves, trolls, golems, vampires, humans who think they're dwarves, werewolves, and a whole host of other fantasy races. The City Watch, under the able command of Samuel Vimes, has the difficult task of keeping some kind of order in the city,

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108476-Pratchett-Gives-Thumbs-Up-to-Discworld-Cop-Show

You may have your hell yeah.

*Ahem*
Hell Yeah!

Also as of a couple of weeks ago I read Small gods and have read every Discworld novel now. Boom.

AvatarForm wrote:Can anyone cvouch for the newer novels being as entertaining as say, Mort or Equal Rites?

Well, imo he somehow just keeps getting better. I'm currently reading some of the old stuff again and yes, his style has changed, but for the better. And there was social commentary in his older books as well. Just look at Jingo.

If you're not sure, try Unseen Academics. It's his best book in years that wasn't about the Nightwatch.

I agree with Hellboy.
He's got better.

he gets better...that for sure... and in jingo he is still in full steam to social-commentary- mode...
i guess this rather darker and more social related style in his novels sparked in the watch novels... here he developed this spotlight far more intense than in the witches and wizard novels...in fact the wizard novels around the UU and specially rincwind related novels ...

i think pratchett wants to shake his audience to get on their feet and think about meaningful themes...and still wants to entertain...which he does exedingly!

i would definatly recommend giving his newer books a go...
and if you are still hesitant then get: maurice and his educated rodents...
this is a bit of a backdraw on the highfantasy take as it features the fantasy aspect far grater than other newer books...

vik

Anung Un Rama wrote:Can I get a "hell yeah!" ?

Sir Terry Pratchett has signed an agreement with TV production company, Prime Focus, to create a Discworld TV show, based on the adventures of Ankh-Morpork's City Watch. Pratchett's Discworld books have inspired a number of spinoffs, including miniseries and videogames, but this will be their first time as an ongoing TV show.

The city of Ankk-Morpork is a little like the real world Budapest, in that it is technically two cities very close together. On its cobbled streets walk humans, dwarves, trolls, golems, vampires, humans who think they're dwarves, werewolves, and a whole host of other fantasy races. The City Watch, under the able command of Samuel Vimes, has the difficult task of keeping some kind of order in the city,

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108476-Pratchett-Gives-Thumbs-Up-to-Discworld-Cop-Show

I- wha-? *head explodes due t pure awesome overload*

Does sound promising.

related/more

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/03/14/terry-pratchetts-discworld-being-adapted-to-crime-of-the-week-mystery-tv-series/

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2011/03/watch_the_discworld_tv_series_get_thought_up.php

Damn, still a year away from shooting.

So, wanna throw around some names for the cast? It's probably gonna be lots of British people. I still want Alan Rickman as Vetinari, he was born for the role.

I still want Alan Rickman as Vetinari, he was born to rule.

fixed that for you....

Viktor von Domm wrote:

I still want Alan Rickman as Vetinari, he was born to rule.

fixed that for you....

I still want Alan Rickman as Vetinari, he was born to rune.

Fixed that for you.

Mark Addy as Colon(or John Goodman?)

Tennant as Nobbs?

ins´t Tennant a too big fellaw for that near halfling nobbs? but his face is really fitting!!!

and definatly mark andy as colon, he has the right features too, john goodman has a certain spark in his eyes that would ruin that distilled simplemindedness that colon needs^^


to rune? that aplies solely to the dean???^^

Speaking of Tennant, I really wish him and/or Ecclestone get a role in the series. I just can't think of a character that would fit either.

This might be better in the News & Rumors forum, but I think it is good here as well. Anyways did you all know that Games Workshop just released the first mini from their new discworld line awhile back? Check it out the Librarian from Discworld:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1140066a

http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/discworld-miniatures-the-librarian-p-235.html

well a mixture of both would do the charcter of the liberian justice... atm both minis seperate wouldn´t fit the description for me at all...

Haha. Yes I saw that mini a long time ago...always had in mind to get them as Jokareo. Now there is a Jokaero I could have a few minis!

I am pretty sure Tennant played Nobby Nobbs in the Hogfather.

Eccelstone...I wonder if he could play Sam Vimes? He is quite a serious guy.

Who would play carrot?

for a carrot i would say a young arnie...
for vimesy i still say a clint eastwood...after all much of the charcter was built from Harry Callahan....from dirty harry movies ...

i am also not sure if tennant didn´t play with false teeth the nobby...
tho many would want to see more tely stuff from pratchett i am a bit hesitant about that... i saw going postal recently and i think the directors got the look of the films not quite right...the civillians look mostly like early victorian bums and all is pretty smelly and sticky looking (which i am fine with) but then you get the watch, and they still look like high fantasy watchmen... which is for me an incionsitency...either go for the complete fanatsy look and let the victorian look slip or only do the modern look... to see a feature film of my favorite characters done wrong would ruin my own nerdy needs...

If Tennant did have a part in hogfather it's not listed on IMDB.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0855039/

It was a guy named Nicholas Tennant.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0855058/

well wikipedia still lists a Nicholas Tennant as the actor of noby nobbs...but i guess that is a wiki related thing... the picture search via google renewed my picture of nobby in hogfather and he doesnt look like the first metioned actor...but still a good face for that role, tho serious makeup needed still^^

Clint would have been a excellent vimes...

I will watch hogfather tonight and take a look!

for my taste hogfather was a bit loooong... not that i want to complain that so many scenes from the book got transfered to the screen, it is just that i wished for a bit more spice in the movie...

whenerver i see clint saying do you feel lucky...

may contain apropriate violence...

Well, I'll be damned. There's actually another Vimes novel coming.



October 13th

Awesome...
October is my looking forward to month now.

Squeeling with joy. I do love the Vimes novels. October is going to be a good month.

Sean Bean as Vimes, full stop.

'One does not simply walk into Morpork!'








Wait, did I use that joke already?

Albatross wrote:Sean Bean as Vimes, full stop.

'One does not simply walk into Morpork!'





Wait, did I use that joke already?

Yeah you did mate.

i feared what with his illness that there would never be a new vimesey book...praise the lords^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:i feared what with his illness that there would never be a new vimesey book...praise the lords^^

He's been working on it for some time.

Hoping that I can get into this more than 'Academicals as I love watch/Vimes tales.

academicals wasn´t that bad...a bit less of all but still something that might get justified revisted...i think the whole ork issue will be revisited...

Hmmm. Vimes is my favourite Pratchett character (he's everyone's, really, isn't he?) but I think he peaked at night watch. I didn't much like Thudd though it had good bits.

If snuff is about him dying though, well, that could be really something.

Da Boss wrote:Hmmm. Vimes is my favourite Pratchett character (he's everyone's, really, isn't he?) but I think he peaked at night watch. I didn't much like Thudd though it had good bits.

If snuff is about him dying though, well, that could be really something.

Night Watch was good but i really liked Thud...

for me thud was a big thing too... when it came out i was a very fresh father of my first born son and i could very much relate to many bitz of the storyline...so all in all vimes is a great identification fugure for me... i sincerely hope no one is killing of vimesey...*crosses fingers*

Da Boss wrote:Hmmm. Vimes is my favourite Pratchett character (he's everyone's, really, isn't he?)

Well, he's not mine Of the big four (Death, Rincewind, Vimes and Granny Weatherwax), Death always had the best lines (Reaper Man is one of my favourites). As for lesser characters, I liked Gaspode in Moving Pictures and for something which doesn't even speak, the Luggage has an amazing presence.

Albatross wrote:Sean Bean as Vimes, full stop.

'One does not simply walk into The Shades!'








Wait, did I use that joke already?

Fixed

Gaspode. Ptepic. Death. ?


The Bursar? The Dean/Arch Chancellor of Brazeneck!

Awesome news about the new book. Always get excited when a new one comes out. I didn't read my first book till 11...and that was the Hobbitt...but I didn't finish it cos I picked up the Colour of Magic half way through.

Anyone see the doc he did the other day? I can';t watch the beeb where I am.

thats so brutal, stoping to read the hobbit for a pratchett book...i guess i would love to know what the man himself would think about that...(choose either TP or JRRT^^)

Haha. I don't regret it!

(I've since read the hobbit).



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But Pratchett is still the best ever.

he sure is much better entertaintment and then the subtext in his books is much better than with tolkien anyway!^^

I recetly re-read Making Money. There's a lot of talk in the book about a planned underground transportation system called "the undertaking". I was expecting the next Morpork-focused book to be about it.

Flashman wrote:

Da Boss wrote:Hmmm. Vimes is my favourite Pratchett character (he's everyone's, really, isn't he?)

Well, he's not mine Of the big four (Death, Rincewind, Vimes and Granny Weatherwax), Death always had the best lines (Reaper Man is one of my favourites). As for lesser characters, I liked Gaspode in Moving Pictures and for something which doesn't even speak, the Luggage has an amazing presence.

Death is my absolute favourite... I can't say I've read all the books, but I'm a huge fan. My favourites are probably Mort and the Von Lipwig ones, but I love Vimes' books as well.

Well that is a steam ship on the cover

this ios bound to be featuring dwarfs too and with the latest three(?) vimes books featuring dwarfes as kind of the antagonists of him i think this makes sense for the new book as contens...but the cover of the book speaks more maritime scenics...

Well, every new book is good news. Even more so if it´s a Guard one, as you might´ve guessed from my Nick

Then again, I´d love to see a new Death novel as well.

i have long speculated about your nickname... now you clarified that^^


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steamship?...now this is interresting...

Yep, but the paddles on the ship are done by steam.

I foresee L of Quirm.

yep he was longtime absent...last apeareance in jingo?

Hmm....actually could be the Last Hero?

Vimes wrote:Well, every new book is good news. Even more so if it´s a Guard one, as you might´ve guessed from my Nick

Then again, I´d love to see a new Death novel as well.

I predict that Pratchett's final Discworld novel will be a Death novel. It just suits the man's sense of humour.

manoknok wrote:Hmm....actually could be the Last Hero?

strange never read that... tho i know of it...and leonard is in that too? thought it featured mainly cohen...

Looking forward to a new book.

Viktor von Domm wrote:

manoknok wrote:Hmm....actually could be the Last Hero?

strange never read that... tho i know of it...and leonard is in that too? thought it featured mainly cohen...

Oh yes he is. Seriously, give it a go. 1/3 of the book is Kidby's fantastic artwork.

yep that at least has tempted me for quite some time... next month is our wedding day... should hint that book to my wife in no subtle terms^^

There's a sneak preview into the new book:

http://www.terrypratchett.co.uk/snuff/

Last night I finally got around to watch Going Postal and I thought that'll be a good place to get this thread rolling again.

The movie was okay overall, but there were a lot of things that bothered me. The look of Ankh-Morpork seemed to change on a whim, but apart from a few shots, it was always too bright and clean. The costumes were interesting. I could've lived with the golem suit, if it wasn't for the dozen other golems who looked exactly the same, down to the cracks and everything. Mr. Gryle was weird too. Seemed like they didn't know how to do a banshee and just did a vampire instead.
Angua looked quite ugly, Charles Prince as Vetinary was a good choice though.

So, any news on the TV show?

I think you meant Charles DANCE as Vetinari.

Not Charles Prince.

Discworld banshees may not be related to the Bean Sidhe of celtic myth. Their vampires tend to be closer to the archetype - but many cultures feature that archetype. Many more than those with banshee type spirits, I suspect.

Ho, the Megapode!

chromedog wrote:I think you meant Charles DANCE as Vetinari.

Not Charles Prince.

Discworld banshees may not be related to the Bean Sidhe of celtic myth. Their vampires tend to be closer to the archetype - but many cultures feature that archetype. Many more than those with banshee type spirits, I suspect.

Whoops. My bad.

It wasn't just the looks of the banshee. He even had a vampire accent.

well that foreign slightly german russian mix i think prattechet does use quite often when he wants to set a character apart from the plain living folks...

and for me too the golems were a bit unfulfilling to see as they looked all the same... angua in this movie i quite liked... she had but way too less airtime for my liking... and i think charles dance played a wonderful vetinari in my book...

the costumes however i didn´t like... that victorian kind of fashion i think wasn´t really what i had in mind when picturing the big whooney...

by the way... anyone have read snuff already? i am about to get that book as a read for our summer vacation... any good?

I liked Snuff, but I didn't enjoy it quite as much as the previous Vimes novels. Didn't really feel like there is much growth for the character left to do. Not that it's bad though, it's really good.

by the way... i am currently reading :and i shall wear midnight...again... is it just me or is pratchett using in his recent book many storylines that could be viewed from a certain agle as a hint to his current illness? he specializes a lot in free minds, possessened by hivers and such things... i may be wrong here because perception gets fuzzy when you know too much of the author and start seeing things but that´s what keeps spinning in my mind these coupla days ...

your take?

Interesting. We know Pratchet likes to teach his readers about things. Snuff again, has some scenes with the shadow entity that lives within Vimes. I don't think these things could be applied to anything in Unseen Academics though... unless you consider the Goblin.

I wish he would write another Witches novel.

well the witches novels got continued with tiffany aching i think... more i think will never happen...sadly...

actually unseen acadamics was more lighthearted to me than the other recent books of him... and i see a book about those goblins/orks coming up soon i bet... the end was so straight forward to a sequel...

the dark shadow in snuff again...hmm... i like that... the screaming rage in the caves of the dwarves where he recited the "where is my cow" was one of my all time favorite scenes of a discworld novel... my hair was standing on end because of this...

http://www.themarysue.com/discworld-watch-show-in-production/

I'll believe it when I hold the boxset in my hands.