SKIP TO END FOR MOST RECENT PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Photobucket album of this and other work: http://s1130.photobucket.com/albums/m526/Adam_Groszkiewicz/Chaos%20lord%20bitz%20raid/



Stuff used.

Lots of bitz from lots of kitz.
GW plastic snips
GW needle files
Galeforce 9 modeling scalpel
Galeforce 9 greenstuff
Maxi-cure super glue
Whole bunch of #11 xacto blades

Magnets were ordered from http://www.rare-earth-magnets.com/p-23-nsn0591.aspx

This model is sturdy enough to be tossed underhand against a wall with absolutely no damage.

I need to say that this project has made me a die hard believer in the GW plastic snips. They are absolutely amazing, and you can get suprisingly precise cuts on plastic, GS, and even pewter (although I only did this on one head, don't want to dull them). A machined flat cutting edge is amazingly useful, plus it will literally save your fingers.

I'd like to credit Lamenter with the original inspiration for this project. His work is amazing. Please check out his site if you want to be floored by some insane conversions.

http://masteroftheforge.com/

His first true scale chaos marines. Be clear, these are NOT my work just the inspiration for the project.

well, if thats your foundation in terms of bits, this project should be real interesting, cant wait to see your progress!


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You construct something out of those pieces, you name is legally changed to 'Macgyver!'

OH MAN! That head looks so disturbingly evil...LOVE IT!! I really wanna see this finished now.

Element206 wrote:well, if thats your foundation in terms of bits, this project should be real interesting, cant wait to see your progress!


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You construct something out of those pieces, you name is legally changed to 'Macgyver!'

I'll take that as a challenge! The hard part on this guy is going to be the leg area. I don't have anything suitable so I may try building a chaos centaurish (insectoid, not equine) or perhaps a chaos portal puking him out.

well now, looks like its coming together nicely! I was waiting to see what you were planning to do with that lone, dread foot.....looks like a Ghostbusters trap! Now you need to convert a small Bill murray figure on the base! Nice work!

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hi agroszkiewicz

whoa, read your pm then read through your guide. well i will shortly vote for the last option, nuts seriously nuts^^ in a very meaningful way , a good meaningful way at that.
are you some organizing genius? they are a rare seed ... me i´m totaly the oposite...choas all over. i can learn a lot about work in conversions by following your thread. i will keep in close contact you can bet^^.
the first thought i had was genie from a bottle... well then you added the nidparts like the talons and stuff iand your idea i could better understand...
the first used head is not my favorite, but don´t take that to seriously. i think it will be the best fitting for your sculpt. it reminds me of



the red one obviously... not the young tom cruise, the older one...

your tutorial is relly good written and with some good sense of humor thrown in between. a very good mix between entertainment and information. who could ask for more?

as about your request to me in your pm. do you have a paintscheme in mind? well since i´m not that into choas for modeling, always think i´m not that good with so mucvh fleshy things to paint... but i suggest you stick to a more redish theme with the bodeparts...just as shown in my reference pic... also for thos technical parts. well have you considered that glow effect some peoplle create for their plasma weapons or the one on that famous cat and mouceplay model with the genestealer and the guard? it was in one of the sm codecies...3rd edition perhaps?
its rather difficult and i really want to help you with some ideas, it s just that i think your doing such a great job by yourself that i don´t have something useful to come up with^^...

on a side note, do you have a carpenter background? your technique with the cutting and glueing and making joints semms a bit from that direction... ic ould be wrong and that your a natural after all^^

cheers man, best wishes and do not shed some blood for the blood god, insted let others bleed^^

vik

Wow, that's some neat-looking work there, Bro'!

My 5 cents, that dreadnought-foot doesn't fit in... It just doesn't catch the eye like the rest of the miniature does.

On the other hand, all the arms, heads and so forth have come out just GREAT!
- I especailly love the backpacks, and the arm holding the book!

@Viktor von Domm

Bro', you just hit the spot with that Legend-post! It indeed looks like him - the Devil!


@agroszkiewicz
Hey, dude, would it be possible to add some kind of hoovy-feet instead of that Dreadnought base?
- Sorry, i don't wanna flame your CL there, it's totally awesome, really! You've done a great job... That foot just annoys me

i hadn´t envisioned it to be a foot more a resting point...hmmm so maybee add some more talons and this could become indeed a device like the mentioned bouhstbuster trap...

thanks billinator^^

vik

Mini-guide to magnetizing a base for use as a fully customizable diorama is going up now in the original post!!!!


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Viktor von Domm wrote:
the first thought i had was genie from a bottle... well then you added the nidparts like the talons and stuff iand your idea i could better understand...
the first used head is not my favorite, but don´t take that to seriously. i think it will be the best fitting for your sculpt. it reminds me of



the red one obviously... not the young tom cruise, the older one...

Thats actually the character that inspired this project, so I hit the nail on the head!

I don't have a background in carpentry, but I do have a background as an automotive technician. Also did alot of aftermarket work on cars, so liberal use of CNC parts was commong. I think thats where I got the general idea of cutting like that. Thanks for the props on technique.


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Billinator wrote:
Hey, dude, would it be possible to add some kind of hoovy-feet instead of that Dreadnought base?
- Sorry, i don't wanna flame your CL there, it's totally awesome, really! You've done a great job... That foot just annoys me

I'll never take constructive criticism as a flame. Thanks for the concern though...mighty sweet of you pookums. I totally agree about the foot thing and to a lesser degree the entire lower body. I did some research earlier and it looks like the WFB Minataur body has the proper proportions, and there are several hooved options in that kit.

Le sigh, I was hoping to build this model without spending a dime. Now I've got an itch to go to the store and its 2:45 AM.

This project is looking great! The green stuff has really pulled all the pieces together well! Nice idea with the magnets.

that has to be literly the first ever tried attempt to make a scenic base thats swithcable...
really genuine thought. i i ever come close to built such a monster i will definitely cunsult you, be sure of that.

great tut. and one thing to add: tho i dont have the same taste in music, i really think it is nice to read what made you tick during this creational process. so you might change your blogname in:
"Holistically guide to building magnetized chaos lord from the bitz box. Pic heavy and updated regularly. C&C please!"

cheers mate, vik

Nice idea agro! As everyone else, I'm anxious to see how the project... excellent to this point... finishes out.

Since you asked so nicely, I'll weigh in.

Fix the link to your magnet supplier. You included the final period in the link itself, so it won't go through smoothly. Easy enough to look at the url and figure out that you need to delete a single punctuation mark, but people are frequently lazy. Make it easy for them. Also, a bit more info about the grade and size of magnet you used and how well it holds wouldn't hurt (plastic is much lighter than metal, but long bits can still rotate undesirably without falling off, if there isn't sufficient hold). Magnet selection is a more common topic of questions than "how do I stick these on?"

Actually, that's about all I'd change/add, so far. It's an interesting project, to be sure. Most people magnetize weapon options, if anything, but you've made an entire model and decorative base that can be swapped around on a whim. From a random pile of bitz, no less.

The one thing I can see potentially hampering the badassery of the final model is that the base can't really be embellished further without disrupting the magnetization points for the debris/model. Grit or flock would need to be kept out of the footprint of each item to keep that flush mounting surface, leaving lots of bare patches that would be hard to disguise with mere paint. When it come time to paint, are you just going to give the base a flat coat of paint? Something to think about.

All in all, a nice little guide for a unique and rather ambitious project. I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes. Keep it up!

oadie wrote:Since you asked so nicely, I'll weigh in.

Fix the link to your magnet supplier. You included the final period in the link itself, so it won't go through smoothly. Easy enough to look at the url and figure out that you need to delete a single punctuation mark, but people are frequently lazy. Make it easy for them. Also, a bit more info about the grade and size of magnet you used and how well it holds wouldn't hurt (plastic is much lighter than metal, but long bits can still rotate undesirably without falling off, if there isn't sufficient hold). Magnet selection is a more common topic of questions than "how do I stick these on?"

Excellent point. The original post has been modified to include a direct link to the magnets ordered. The guide was written with the intent that someone who has never magnetized a model can learn some easy peasy techniques.

oadie wrote:The one thing I can see potentially hampering the badassery of the final model is that the base can't really be embellished further without disrupting the magnetization points for the debris/model. Grit or flock would need to be kept out of the footprint of each item to keep that flush mounting surface, leaving lots of bare patches that would be hard to disguise with mere paint. When it come time to paint, are you just going to give the base a flat coat of paint?

Obviously the WFB base pictured was just an exercise in practicing how to mag up a base...its too chopped up to be useful from a modeling perspective. One thing that has me really excited is the utter and complete freedom that this project will allow when it comes to designing terrain for the bases.

I'm definently going to put some serious thought into this issue today since you are right. It has the potential to really disrupt the flow of the model. Gotta think ahead!

In other news, the leg area was torn off for future use as part of a chaos spawn or something. Gonna succumb to the cheeseball factor and build some hooves, maybe a snake type base, or maybe ever try my hand at building a mount! Expect further updates as the day progresses.





The magnets are pretty strong, I could turn the full assembled diorama upside down and shake it without parts falling off. Any really large or heavy parts are going to get more than one magnet put on the bottom, sort of like magnetized pinning.... Also one thing to remember is that this model has so many magnets in it and they are all places with the charges facing identially. The individual strength of the magnets is MAGnified when you have lots of them close together even if they are not actually touching. The torso, arms, head, and backpack assembly has 8 of these magnets, plus whatever you use in the leg area and base. Trust me, if built properly it will stand up to more motion and inertia than you'd think.




I'd also like to thank everyone who has contributed comments and criticism so far. Almost of my ideas originally start with the input that others give me, as well as looking at the modeling and painting of others on this site! Further updates will not be posted in the tutorial section unless it covers the construction of terrain or body peices from the bitz box.


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Pic next to an actual scale CSM I whipped up a few days ago. Using stacked magnets to make sure that I know the EXACT height required by the leg area's I am building in order to maintain proper scaling.




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Update before I break for lunch and some time out in the sun/fresh air.

Here are a couple of pics I took while fitting another backpack. The clearances will fit terminator legs and anything proportionally similar. REALLY opening up options with this kit now. Gonna get insane later on!





The backpacks honestly need an aligning pin, which I'd need a hobby drill to install. :/

The evening update will be posted later and includes a mini-guide on how to turn your terminator legs into power armor legs following Lamenter's technique from http://masteroftheforge.com/2010/08/08/tutorial-actual-scale-space-marine/


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Ok, the true scale leg guide is going to have to be a seperate thread. Ended up getting alot of really good pics, so y'know. On the plus side it means that I can just update this thread with the best pics!

I've decided that I want this to be a model built to withstand regular gaming. To whit, it will have sculpted weaponry and backpacks for the following options.

Abbadon the Despoiler
Fabius Bile
Huron Blackheart
Typhus
Kharn the Betrayer
Ahriman
Lucius the Eternal
Chaos Lord (scaled big enough to represent power OR terminator armor)
Chaos Sorceror
Obliterator

Daemon Prince will be added to that list eventually, thats going to take ALOT of work on additional legs, and god only knows what else.

Got some more legs and assorted bitz to help restock...gone through a ton of parts over the last few days.



Checking to make sure I've scaled the legs properly. Yep, looks correct to me!





To glue the magnets to the feet stack 2 magnets into the base, then apply a TINY amount of super glue to each foot, and hold it against the magnets for 15 seconds and remove the magnet that is left in the hole.





And a shot of the base assembly before I set things aside for GS to cure. I'm liking where this is going!

I voted for "just plain nuts" because I'm curious how this is going to paint up.

Umm, so yeah. This is literally my second ever project involving GS.....its really easy to learn how to work....I have never had an artistic bone in my body. Keep it REALLY wet while working it and don't let it get warm.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG....cue up "Baby" by Major Lazer featuring Prince Zimboo (Diplo auto-tuned a baby crying, then put a Jamaican rap over it, its amazing)


I true scaled some legs from the Chaos Terminator Lord kit. Won't cover that here, but I'll put up a pic. Not amazing GS work, but its enough to get the job done.



Using the GW triangle file, cut your waist area for a rough fit.



Next, use the square file to give a nice polish to it...probably not needed, but its fun for me. The right angle cut on the buckle was done with the triangular file, then finished with the square. Its to help alignment of this centerpeice when it cures.



Next, take a ball of GS and smoosh it between the two parts. This was a very very lengthy process that literally involved just making a ball, squishing, cutting the crud, repeat....maybe 4 times. Keep the GS wet like your woman while you doin this....otherwise it stretches and you have to start over.





CAREFULLY remove the GS from the magnetized socket. Not as hard as it seems, not by far.




Parts are curing, prolly going to spend a while making weapons and assorted random bits of flotsam from the warp. Still haven't figured out to do about the flocking, but not worried!

Isn't there some rule about models are supposed to be mostly GW parts? Does this count?

Quite an ambitious project! Digging the tutorial though, talk about the embodiment of change.

Nutz! In a good way.

Worked alot with GS tonight. Model still needs work on the pose, and honestly I think the terminator legs are proportionally off to some of the arms...nothing that can't be fixed pretty easily. Figured out how to make a fitted socket with the GS. In the future this will save me from making crazy time consuming cuts with the files. It will also allow me to do assembly line construction.

Not perfect yet, but really coming together in a good way. Shown with a very Nurgleish set of equipment.

One thing worth mentioning about magnets are; Keeping the magnets clear of GS etc. will help the parts stay in that exactly one place "meant" for that part. Having them too covered by GS, or what-not, i have found, can result in the limbs, not falling off, but not staying in PLACE.

Furthermore, i've found that (with wet hands ofc.), adding a little glue to the GS before inserting the magnet works like a charm.


About the base:
- As oadie so gentleman-like put it, having the magnets too visible on the finished models base might ruin it abit. And i agree! But a solution to this, if having too many magnets on the base, in order for making it as custom as custom can be (which is a fine touch IMO), decorating it with, say, tall grass could cover it up abit. Alternatively, having enough parts could also do the job just fine. But an over-decorated base can also be a pain the the eye, if you ask me (which you of course do - right? ).

But anyways, i love what you've done so far. You are a highly creative brainy-man, and that's just calls for little hearts - like this: <3
- And then some! Also worth mentioning, the first time doing the GS, you've gotten some nice results!

GS can be tricky to work with, and indeed does require alot of both PATIENCE and PRACTICE. But the most important tip i've gotten so far is keeping everything that touches the GS wet, so the GS don't stick. I've even gone as far as licking my fingers to smoothen it out. I hate to leave fingerprints, as it becomes visible on the finished miniature!


Anyways, rounded up, i love your creativity, and being highly inspirative, only one thing to say; Keep it up, and keep the arms and legs magnetized! <3

TY Bill!

Making sure that the magnets will hold on the heaviest of completed parts....IE the modified cloak from the Chaos Termie Lord kid. Backpack area still needs some kind of alignment pin to keep from being wobbly. Hmm. :/ I'm thinking either musical instrument string, or acupuncture needles are a good place to source something small enough yet strong enough.



Socketed termie body for use in "fights as" Typhus and Abbadon as well as my own creations. This body can spin 360 degree's without looking terribly out of proportion, unlike the original power armor body.





Here is the process by which I'm creating a 2 hander to fight as power weapon, force weapon, daemon weapon, or Bloodfeeder. This is a royal PITA, and in the future I'll likely source 2 handers from Warriors of Chaos WFB kits.

3 cuts with the GW clips.



Another 2 cuts removes most of the flash.



A few pics of the process being careful to check proportions regularly.











More trouble than its worth IMO, but the end result is pretty cool. Kitbashing would be easier than this though....live and learn!



I really want a ham and cheese croissant with a cinnamon twist and some hazlenut coffee. Creating pure evil is hungry work!







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Billinator wrote:
GS can be tricky to work with, and indeed does require alot of both PATIENCE and PRACTICE. But the most important tip i've gotten so far is keeping everything that touches the GS wet, so the GS don't stick. I've even gone as far as licking my fingers to smoothen it out. I hate to leave fingerprints, as it becomes visible on the finished miniature!

Thats one of the reasons I trim my GS'd joins so closely. Keeping it wet and having a SHARP ASS SCALPEL are really the most important parts. Everything else boils down to practice from what I can tell...oh and having good clay tools for detail work....which I don't. There were points during the socketing process than I was dunking the pieces in my water pot every 5 minutes to make damn sure nothing was sticking or stretching.


I believe Oadie wanted a demonstration of the strength of the magnets. In this picture the only thing holding the model in my fingertips is the magnet at the waist join. It is more than able to hold the GS filled base and a few scenic pieces. This is why I use plastic instead of metal.

Wow, great work! I am both amazed and inspired. Look forward to see how it finishes up

Thanks man!

Gonna make an effort to only put the cherry picked best shots up. Takes too much time. I am however keeping pics of the entire process on my photobucket. I think there are 90 some odd pics in the folder now. If you have any questions as to a specific part of the model, PM me and I'll send you the link!

Building 2 handed weapons for this project is turning out to be extremely time consuming. Not "difficult" but requires an astronomical amount of patience. I'm going to either need to pin the blade/haft on, reduce the length, or use an alternate blade. Keeping not going to glue the two arms together as its just too much of a PITA, and its just begging to get broken every time you take the arms off.



And all the stuff so far.



Most of the arms from previous pictures needed to be resized to work with the terminator legs. There are alot of them, so this is the start on my home made molds for alignment dowels and magnet sockets. Should save me ALOT of time in the future.

It was made by smooshing a blob of greenstuff (more blue than yellow) onto a WFB base, then I poured a little water on my glass top coffee table and worked it smooth applying water as needed to stop any friction. Easiest way to get a really flat finish on a large surface. The stack of magnets was then pressed into it to make the circles. Have to keep going back and resizing the holes every hour and a half or so during the curing process.

I love it. I like how a single unit and a box of bits and turn into several diffrent things. Keep it up and keep us posted!

Here is a close up of the stuff I've worked on tonight. Terminator torso was shaved and magnetized to fit both heads pictured....I figure if the horns and Khornate thingies have clearance anything will.



And a side by side comparison to a standard marine and standard terminator. This would "fight as" a Chaos Lord of Khorne w/wings and Bloodfeeder.

Very entertaining model there.
Great use of resources to make the most of very little.

Looking good. About how many diffrent weapons/parts are you going to try and make for him?

LeBaron wrote:Looking good. About how many diffrent weapons/parts are you going to try and make for him?

On specific weapons, no idea. I do however know that I want to have options modeled for the heads, torso armor, and hopefully some additional legs (as well as weapons) to use "Fights as" for the following characters.

Abbadon the Despoiler
Fabius Bile
Huron Blackheart
Typhus
Kharn the Betrayer
Ahriman
Chaos Lord (for each god) both in Terminator armor and Power armor
Chaos Sorceror in both Terminator armor and Power armor

Wing options for power armor, multiple familiars, umm....lots of terrain fluff. Been working on the project for about 4 days....hope to have alot more done in the coming weeks.

Using the artwork for each one in the CSM codex as inspiration.

I've left enough room between mag points on the 60mm base to allow for building god specific mounts on down the road.


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Baby oil has an interesting effect on GS. Which is cool cause I keep plenty around. My little mold for the alignment dowels should be ready in the morning. :p

cool doublehanded pose. thats a very parttut on that matter, could/should get sticky for that alone...

vik

That's quite the list. Can't wait to watch every step.

Viktor von Domm wrote:cool doublehanded pose. thats a very parttut on that matter, could/should get sticky for that alone...

vik

Thanks vik!

The double handed pose was a royal pain. I don't think I'm going to be doing it again, and if I do I've learned that the longer you make the haft (provided its out of separate pieces) the harder it gets. In the future I'll use toothpicks or something. WAY too hard to get a perfectly flat join that doesn't distort the angles, and the GS likes to stretch due to the minuscule amount vs the weight of even a plastic piece!



Here is a picture of the stuff I'm starting out working on this morning along side my noobishly home made GS mold for alignment dowels and magnet sockets. After allowing the socket mold to cure it was coated in baby oil, a large GS ball stacked onto it, and another WFB base was pressed into it after being sandwiched between my coffee table top and a peice of glass. Allowed this to cure and then just easily pulled it apart when I woke up! There are tons of parts from the carnifex kit that are damn close to a terminator or true scale marine size and are easily trimmed using just the plastic clips.



Spent a bit of time leafing through art books and looking online for some artistically inspiring stuff for today. If this isn't Chaos, I don't know what is.



Here is a pic of the project so far. Bowl of heads and bowl of random chopped up bitz included!

I'm always impressed by people who are able to sculpt green stuff. I only feel comfortable using it to stick metal parts together, and I have a hell of a time with even that!



Make those pentagrams into the Eight-Pointed Star and you'll be styling!

Well, I'm going to be staying true to 40k since this is a 40k mini/diorama/wtfe, so there will be chaos emblems as opposed to modern day religious symbols. I was looking more at the devil in the center and the snake/tentacle things. I like the idea of GSing some snapping mouth things onto the ends of the 'nid tentacles I have for the base.

Here is a pic of the cured sockets and dowels from my goofy little home made mold. I know its not really that technically impressive, but I did come up with the idea all on my own. No consultation of forums required....so I'm proud of the uniformity of the results. Just remember to keep the surface of the molds well oiled when you press little GS balls into them. These should help me with the problem of components shifting while the joins cure, as well as drastically speed up the magnetizing process for future parts. The dowels and sockets were set set on the shelf to cure for 4 or 5 hours and they were easily removed with fingers.



I cannot stress how important the next pic is. These are #11 exacto blades. They are available at any hardware store and have a scalpel blade with a thin neck. They are the exact size of the blades that ship from Galeforce and fit their knife perfectly. SHARP BLADE IS KEY. I've gone through 8 blades in 5 days. Will be ordering bulk blades soon.

Oh yeah, that's a good idea too. I wonder if one could stylize an eight-pointed star like those pentagrams look though...

Monster Rain wrote: I only feel comfortable using it to stick metal parts together, and I have a hell of a time with even that!

Plastic is lighter, thereby making it MUCH easier to use GS and glue to construct a model. I don't like pinning and refuse to buy a hobby drill or vise.


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Monster Rain wrote:Oh yeah, that's a good idea too. I wonder if one could stylize an eight-pointed star like those pentagrams look though...

I probably could, but it would be easier to print out a copy of different 2D star, oil it, and then carefully cut an oiled strip of GS around the paper. I'm not going for the exact pose of that painting...WAY too ambitious. Just a few parts of it that have a 40k feel. I think there is a head in the Chaos Spawn kit or Beastmen/Beastigor Herd that could easily work for that, and the feathered wings can be sourced from the new BA kit.


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A side by side shot of the #11 blade vs a #24 which was offered to me as the "standard blade" in a couple of hardware and gaming shops I stopped at before finding the scalpel blades a block from my house. :/

I absolutely did not realize how much difference the blade makes until I read through Lamenters Tuturial on actual scale builds. http://masteroftheforge.com/2010/08/08/tutorial-actual-scale-space-marine/

The fine tips is great for tamping GS into hard to reach spots or any cut where you have incredibly tight tolerances, and the length of the blade means I can use the tip for precision work while the rear of the blade is used to trim plastic. DO NOT APPLY ALOT OF PRESSURE TO THE TIP UNTIL YOU ARE USED TO THE TOLERANCE OF THE METAL IT WILL BREAK AND YOU'LL GASH YOUR fething FINGER OPEN!!!!!!




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Oddly, the GS sockets I cast fit into termie shoulders almost perfectly. This was an unexpected bonus!!!



And here you see the advantage of the cast socket and using superglue as opposed to slow cure cement. Try to do this in uncured GS and the magnets just make a mess.



A few pictures! The cast sockets allowed me to tailor the fit so that the arms fit both the power armor and terminator armor, although only the terminator one will have swappable shoulders. I'm also starting to slowly work on adding a bit of mass to the upper legs of the power armor by layering on really really really thin strips of GS. Sadly, the heads with up swept horns always angle down a bit in the terminator cowl. Oh well.





The fit on this arm is a little odd in the back, but nobody including me is going to notice once its painted.




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This is my first ever project using GS or attempting anything beyond some really really rough glue on conversions. I want to be clear that nothing I've shown so far is "difficult" its just gaking time consuming.

agroszkiewicz wrote: I don't like pinning and refuse to buy a hobby drill or vise.

First let me say, for your first major GS work/Conversion, you are doing pretty darn good. To me it looks like you need to do some more work with smoothing the GS though. I know this is still a WIP, but I find if I take the added time to make sure even layers that I think will be covered up or not seen will still look good. You never know what someone else will notice.
Honestly Im not sure I would have attempted such an ambitious project. I would have just made 2 or 3 seprate minis, instead of a Single Ubar swapable one. I do like how you have magnitized the base so you can get multiple legg poses.

Now to your dislike of pinning. yes it can be a pain in the hynnie. With practice though you will find that it is a huge resource that you are over looking. I tend to pin almost evereything. One for the added strucural strenght, but also for the ability it gives me to make fluid motions. Here are a few examples...All of these Pics are WIPs. So please excusse mold lines, flash, and non smoothed GS. All got taken care of before painting.

All of these termies have had their arms pinned to the torsos and torsos to the leggs. this helped me create the fluidity of motion. I used florest wire, its very flexable.


In this pic you can see where I drilled holes for my first test of these arms. The arms in this pic are held in place with some wire and poster tak. Look how much more movement I can instill in this termi with some wire and GS.


Now wlook at the movement i gave to these Assault marines. I also pinned the hands on the dual chainsword dude.


I couldnt have created either of these minis without the use of pinning, especially if I wanted them to last. I know I used a wrong chest plate for one of these guys. Since this project never got finished(damm rules changes), I never went back and fixed it.


Dosent this just Scream "HAVE AT THEM BOYS!" more than 5 guys just standing there?


And my pinning skills isnt just for pinning one peice to another..It helped me creat Unique and Characterful models.


There you go.. I think you are on your way to becomming a really good converter. It never hurts to have more tools to draw from.

Nicorex

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Holy hell.

Those assault marines just blew my damn mind.

Those are excellent pics Niko! I may bendon the pinning thing after the nightmare of building a 2 handed pose without it. Really drove home how it could be useful to me.

and that my Padawan is how we grow with the Force... 8)
Wana see something funny...
I made this termis when i worked as a Redshirt for GW a few years ago.


Last year GW reissued Space Hulk with this model. (Wonderfully painted my our very own GardenGnome)


I would like to think someone saw my mini and said wow we can make termis look fluid and did it.

@Nico
Wow, that's some pretty neat dynamic poses you've managed to create! I'm impressed!

@Agros
It's pretty awesome you've managed to come up with so many different parts to your miniature!
- On one of the bodies, though, i feel the stomach is too tall/long. It's kinda throws the miniature out of proportions a little. It may just be me. I've become pretty sceptic about that kinda stuff ever since i began drawing (I used aloooot of time getting proportions right).
The main reason i mention this is really that you can make the best conversion, but still have some odd-looking arm, leg or whatever steal the attention away from the rest of the miniature. It's just an eyesore, really, but doesn't mean the rest isn't great - 'cause it really is!

Anyways, Agros, you're gonna become one awesome sculpturer (i think that's how you spell it), if you keep this up!

I agree completely about the body thing Bill. The power armor body is just kind of....not right. I need to get some torso bitz and assemble them with about 1 mm gap between the back and front sections, then GS it a bit.

Two facts that I'm thrilled to have figured out through nothing but my own experiementation.
1. If you oil the GS it won't stick to plastic (or anything else) while it cures.
2. GW plastic clips can give you great rough cuts on cured globs of GS. I no longer have any use for plastic shoulder joints.

Artistic inspiration from morning devotional!





Anyone have a clue where to source a head similar to this? I'm totally stumped.



Pics of the cast dowels, sockets, and a roll of cured GS for future use.



Decided that I wanted to be able to stick the backpacks onto the terminator body. Using an oiled glob of GS I first made a mold of the torso. Practiced smoothing the GS surface too, but I'm not going to have much luck until I buy some clay tools. Most likely these http://www.dickblick.com/products/colour-shapers-tools/





Plan on having a productive afternoon, although I think my shawty is getting annoyed that I won't sit and talk to her for more than a half hour at a whack. Goal for the day is to work on dynamic arm poses....thanks Nico!

Music to sculpt to: "Angel with Scabbed Wings" Marilyn Manson, "Voodoo People" The Prodigy, "Hold Ya Head Up" Notorious BIG, "Lollipop" Lil Wayne, "Put that Pussy on Me" (Diplo Tonite Remix) Spank Rock, "Dusty Vinyl" Scooter

giger art is so cool. didn´t know he made art for dune as well. but i knew that pic of him for dune... well now that i can put one and one together...

and yeah giger is a great inspiration for any choas lunatic conversionists...

kkep up the good work, vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:giger art is so cool. didn´t know he made art for dune as well. but i knew that pic of him for dune... well now that i can put one and one together...

and yeah giger is a great inspiration for any choas lunatic conversionists...

kkep up the good work, vik

He did the original artwork for the Dune movie with Patrick Stewart as Gurney Hallack. Its far less well known that his work on Alien conceptual art, but its alot more mechanized which suits me nicely!


Really been taking the time to consider what kind of poses I could get with pinning. Future use only, this project is about the magnets as much as anything else.


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Stuff thats curing for a couple of hours. Once I figured out how to glue and shape properly, I socketed those termie shoulders in 15 minutes. I'm also making a mold so that I can produce sockets for the waist join. This should allow me to bang out lots of magnetized bodies.



I'm particularly proud of this part. Its not much to look at, but an backpack adapter for termie torso's is really fun since there are so many SM and CSM backpacks to choose from.






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Ahhh, and now I feel that the work is really starting to pay off! I've ended up scrapping far more parts than I've kept, but this is one of the configurations so far that I like the best. Can't beat a project that you get to play with as part of the creative process!!!!! (his rude gesture is for the gentleman that said I shouldn't use 'nid parts for chaos conversions)

Thinking I'll need to use unmodified termie legs with the backpack options. It looks more than a little top heavy. He was inspired by the NIN song "Big Man with a Gun"

Awesome, I really like the socket system. Cool stuff.

Go GIGER! (big influence on me from way back)

the shoulder looks total badass, also love the other shouldercanon. gives the predator look only 10times nastier...

where else can you get away with nid parts than chaos? well obviously my nid killas but that left aside its the manifestation of chaos sm...
the only thing thats not working for me is the growing numbers of modeling persons that use the powerclaws to show the rude finger. not that i´m to stiff to ywear or make a rude gesture myself every once in a while, but it´s so overdone...really who hasn´t den something like that...
beside that small rant, your work looks good, as usual^^

cheers, vik

Wicked stuff man! keep it up!

Brillinat Grimdark stuff you have here , very creative, i really like that you put your inspirational pics up too , so we can see your thought proccess!, and funny enough i was just talking to someone about the similarities between 40k and Giger! might steal that idea! and i just love your jump pack squad, very dynamic. But i bet it took an age to get the space marines on the lampost to stick and not fall over?

Predator....argh didn't even think of that! Gonna try and cut apart a real POS conversion I did 6 months ago with the head from possessed sprue.......

Also thinking that I could do a fairly nice looking red/bronze color scheme, and I'm also quite experienced with purple (and I paint in that color too!). I could leave some shoulders or arms black, or paint as needed to represent membership in the Black Legion. Any suggestions on color are welcome, just bear in mind that there are going to be alot of parts and rules that need to be represented in the model.

Hehe, tore down a few models off the "shelf of shame" and came up with a ton of stuff from the DP, Carnifex, and CSM box sets. My first batch of waist sockets got ruined because I removed them from the mold too early. Next batch will cure overnight and I'll work on some more legs in the AM. REALLY REALLY hard not to run out and get the Chaos Knights and Minataur kits to source parts from. Wamp wamp wamp.

sounds cool what things to come...

as for pinting bronze sound good, balck also, cant go wrong with that^^ and i would definatly add red... so you would have some more brutality paintwise^^

cheers, vik

As you progress your conversion work is looking even better. I like the relative size of the characters your building. Also like that you have given them more of a chaos look as opposed to the minis that come from the shelves. You definately appeal to a demonic side....very nice work!

Heh, so I found a page on Magcraft's site that allows you to literally custom build any size/shape magnet you want. You don't even want to know the gak running through my head right now involving a magnet shaped like a half sphere and one with a recessed socket.

http://www.rare-earth-magnets.com/custom-magnets.aspx

Some pics that I'm looking over today.

One of my all time favorite mini's.


Picture from .016 seconds after the atomic explosion at the Trinity Site. The white is the superheated explosion, the small black specks at the bottom of the white area are trees.

no man, you can´t round us up and not let us in then, tell us, we can take it^^

vik

Dickie Roberts! This is a very cool blog, keep it coming.

Using the fully cured shoulder sockets, I can now construct parts "on the fly" in about 20 minutes per set. Plus its ALOT easier to cut than the plastic shoulder which is nice because I don't like slicing my fingers apart.



Spent maybe 5 minutes digging for bitz last night, GS'd a few things together and let em cure while I slept. Fitting and trimming was completed with a modeling scalpel, which took another 10 minutes. After that it was just a matter of sticking the magnets on with some glue. I don't like the gun pose, feels too clunky.









Playing around with sorcerer ideas.












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I also figure that the more GW detail I can preserve, the less GS detail work I'm going to have to do. To whit, I have ended up with some very very tiny peices. The tweezers belonged to my grandmother...an avid hobby/craft bittie. Found em boxed up in a 50 year old stamp collection, thought this was an appropriate use for em since I have concerns about my sausage fingers being able to manipulate them into place prior to curing.





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neil101 wrote:Brillinat Grimdark stuff you have here , very creative, i really like that you put your inspirational pics up too , so we can see your thought proccess!, and funny enough i was just talking to someone about the similarities between 40k and Giger! might steal that idea! and i just love your jump pack squad, very dynamic. But i bet it took an age to get the space marines on the lampost to stick and not fall over?

Let me be clear, the pinning and beautifully posed models (termie's, assault marines, etc) were crafted by member Nicorex who has been doing this FAR longer than I have. Just to make sure credit is sent where it is due.

Will no longer be building double magnetized shoulders for reasons of structural integrity when the model is fully assembled. Also, hoping to get more dynamic poses than those seen thus far and the consruction technique with magnets is limited when it comes to extreme angles. Yes I know pinning would be better, but this is a no pinning project!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"Let me be clear, the pinning and beautifully posed models (termie's, assault marines, etc) were crafted by member Nicorex who has been doing this FAR longer than I have. Just to make sure credit is sent where it is due."

Fair enough , great work regardless i also suffer the dreaded curse of sausage fingers! tweezers are my new best friend!;-)

Important test: Making sure the waist join can support the weight of the base filled with GS, the legs, and about 10 magnets. This is pretty much the weight limit if you want to pick the assembled model up by the body. Still....not bad for such a small disc.



I took the plastic snips and cleaned out a large portion of my "shelf of shame", salvaging what I could and clipping down to roughly the scale I need.



This was my attempt at modeling one of the weapons from a special character in codex CSM. Won't say which weapon since its really not very good. Also used a GS socket and dowel cast to try and get a more dynamic stance. Meh...first try is first try.



On the model....





My buddy said the backpack looked cool for an Obliterator, so I bashed together some spare weapons. Personally I think it bears a passing resemblance to a termie scale dreadnought weapons pod.










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After looking at the posted pics, decided to yank off some crappy looking parts on the backpack.

I think this model manages to incorporate strong Giger and Lovercraftian influences, while still remaining true to the 40k feel and scale. Should also be tourney legal since it uses 100% GW parts.

Thats a pretty big gun mate, whats his name overkill! makes him look a little top heavy though, think maybe his legs need bulking out , with stablizers to support it!

Wow that are some big guns, its like a walking bomb to me...

great job

jelle

Thanks for the encouragement guys! The project is really starting to come together IMO. Hard not to sit and play with it.....needs more arms! I'm thinking that the massive list I have noted earlier in the thread may be a bit too ambitious. Looking forward to having some paint on him next week!

As usual, a picture of my inspiration for the morning. Made a quick trip to the library and these selections should prove most excellent as "background noise".



A few more pics to demonstrate the level of customizability, if that's even a word.

Rawr, chaosy magic and tentacle porn!









Plz don't look at my uggo mutie face, it makes me self conscious and angry!









I'm a lead farmer muthafukka!









Rude boy.

the first pose looks like : "push button B and hold above head, then...whats that? now the manual is all in japanese???? fricking sony powerweapons...damn those chaosy superiors and their outsourcing schemes..."

A demonstration of structural stability. The hard part with this pic was not getting the model to stay together, it was getting the stupid tweezers to actually grip one of the skull spikes on the torso cowl! In this photo the load bearing portion of the model structure is ONLY the single magnet at the waist join. As you can see, these buggers are really strong. That is a 60mm base filled with GS, Chaos Termie Lord base, termie lord legs, 9 magnets, and all the GS fills being help with a single disc less than 1/8 of an inch in diameter. I'm both surprised and happy!




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Project has cost me $22.50 so far, not counting the price of tools and GS....which I would have purchased regardless. The only reason I even spent any money at all is because I had no workable leg options. I attempted a crafted lower torso, but it ended up looking terrible.


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Was keeping a log of the actual man hours worked on this guy, but I lost track and gave up after 112:43. Please bear in mind that the VAST majority of that time was the learning process. I've never worked with GS til now and had to figure out how to make molds, casts, get a machined flat surface, and spent huge amounts of time making sure that the fit on each piece interferes with other pieces to the absolute minimum possible degree.


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Any clue on where to size some tank treads that would be relatively proportional to the rest of the model? Never so much as opened an IG box.

learning process is always the biggest amount of timedevourer. i cant count how often i have pulled my creations apart...and i will do so again and again. as i tend to do new thing and don´t want to repeat myself... so if i learn something new its only the basics of the theme i can benefit from...

one suggestion? why dont you search for a nice avatar man? would want to put a face to the name...^^

vik

Picture of the torso side join for the backpack adapter. More than any other part I've built, this one really helps to define the project.



Scoring the join surface. If you do this, be very very very careful. The blades I'm using are so sharp and thin that when (not if) I slip, I don't even feel them pass through the meat of my finger until the nerves are sliced. Very odd feeling, not painful but damn sure not pleasant. Fortunately I was a boy scout!!!!

The reason for doing this is simple. Increasing the surface area that an adhesive can bond to increases the strength of the bond. For example I did very deep scoring at the join surface of the feet/rock and then used a slow cure plastic cement that set overnight. Haven't tried cement on GS yet.






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Viktor von Domm wrote:learning process is always the biggest amount of timedevourer. i cant count how often i have pulled my creations apart...and i will do so again and again. as i tend to do new thing and don´t want to repeat myself... so if i learn something new its only the basics of the theme i can benefit from...

one suggestion? why dont you search for a nice avatar man? would want to put a face to the name...^^

vik

Not a bad suggestion. Guess the profile needs a bit of personality.

looks a bit unhealthy...could it be the longtime association with chaos made you that skinny?



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seems i had just the right moment to look into your facebook account^^

lol, yeah. Decided against putting the link into a thread thats getting several hundred hits per day.

I did however use a picture of myself for my avatar! I think you are right....chaos is starting to change me.

























AND I LIKE IT!!!

that sound like it should be sung^^

dumm di di dumm...chaos changed my life and i like it...dumm dummmdoooommmm

Decided to stick in the ear buds, put the Dark Knight soundtrack on and see what happened if I tried to come up with a back story for a specific pose. Again, first try at anything of this nature so I hope it doesn't suck too much. I have read a lot of complaints that home made fluff is really lame....C&C encouraged on this as well!!!!

Edit: Wow, freakish....the album just ended as I finished editing this...like literally as soon as I hit the submit button.


As the chilly dusk air caught in her throat, Joniza again checked the charge on her long las. It had been three weeks since the Black Legion began their assault on the fortified Cadian position. As the numbers of the defenders dwindled the commissar ordered the deployment of short range heavy weaponry in preparation for the inevitable surge that would attempt to breach their defenses. After all thought Jonzia, the infinitely damned legions of The Despoiler appeared limitless in both number and form. Only the iron discipline of her commanders and the unwavering loyalty to the commissar had kept the unit from breaking up until this point. From her position in the sniper nest, Jonzia watched the other guardsmen prepare heavy flamers and multi-melta's. Something about the sight of a heavy flamer pointed at the INSIDE of the massive stone gate made her feel sickened. Its intricately etched stone, never touched by human tools had proved a most effective bulwark against all enemies for hundreds of years.
Without warning a series of explosions began to hammer against the other side of the gate. Jonzia couldn't believe her ears, were the traitors actually trying to blast through stone that couldn't be dented with a meltagun? Her jaw went slack as a series of cracks began to appear in the surface of immeasurably old stonework. The staccato bursts of what had to be an entire squad of boltguns rang in Jonzia's ears. She was shocked beyond words to see the stone shatter and crumble under a barrage clearly fueled by the hatred directed at all faithful servants of the Golden Throne during these crusades.
Staring through the sights of her long las, Jonzia caught her breath at the sight of a massive figure rising through the smoke and dust. With a whine of bionics and the clacking of a well oiled automated bolt loader a form plucked from the darkest part of human imagination stomped forward. Flames spat towards the figure as guardsmen opened up with close range death, however the figure simply turned in one fluid motion. Jonzia was horrified to see a festering mass of organic fluid and bristling gun barrels where the left arm should have been. As a laser rangefinder played over the hapless guardsman futility attempting to harm the behemoth, there was a deafeningly loud burst of gunfire accompanied by a flash of white light.
Jonzia cried out as she was knocked to the floor by a concussive shock-wave. Scrambling to her feet, she saw the unnameable thing continue its inexorable march forward. Where there had been emplacements of multi-melta's and heavy flamers there was no longer anything save for smoke, craters, and an astounding amount of spent bolt casings. Lining up her shot was the work of a few moments, shortly followed by the crack of a precisely aimed head shot from the long las . As Jonzia pulled the trigger time seemed to slow. It was as if she could watch the las round creeping towards the nightmarish figure, still perfectly aligned with the neck join of its helmet.
In this brief instant Jonzia felt the attention of something far more ancient than herself snap into focus and she knew the true meaning of despair. With a flash of the cannons mounted to the thing's back Jonzia's las round ceased to exist. As she was blinded by the red light of the rangefinder bionics dripping from its head, she caught a glimpse of yellow caution stripes and the glint of gunmetal. She then ceased to exist as completely as the las round that never connected with its target.

Holy crap! I just have no words man. Awesome conversions, and yes, the nid parts look great! I'll be watching to see what else you do!

I am liking the work you have done...I would love to see a full picture of your entire army.

Cutthroatcure wrote:I am liking the work you have done...I would love to see a full picture of your entire army.

Its not very impressive, seriously. I've got over 112 man hours invested in this project, if you include the learning process from cracking a tube of GS for the first time to the pics that you see. Doesn't leave much time to paint mass infantry. :(


Also thinking that with a red/bronze/black paintjob I can do a simple yet striking paintjob while still having the freedom to put individual legion or renegade chapter details on specific pieces. I can do god specific icons as part of the terrain. Thoughts?

I think you have the right idea and at least you are taking the time to personalize your army..One day it will be painted and fully field ready.

I like the Icon idea as it really will show people which of the 4 they follow!

Cutthroatcure wrote:
I like the Icon idea as it really will show people which of the 4 they follow!

Yep. Chaos is anything but subtle after all.....well poor ol' Tzeentch tries, but then you grow a tentacle out of your ass and the jig is up.

agroszkiewicz wrote:

Cutthroatcure wrote:
I like the Icon idea as it really will show people which of the 4 they follow!

Yep. Chaos is anything but subtle after all.....well poor ol' Tzeentch tries, but then you grow a tentacle out of your ass and the jig is up.

You can only do so much with a tentacle hanging around that area....Gods forbid you go crazy for the blood god!

Cutthroatcure wrote:I think you have the right idea and at least you are taking the time to personalize your army..One day it will be painted and fully field ready.

Yep, I've been into 40k off and on for 16 years. I'm in no huge hurry to get to the gaming table. Honestly I enjoy the modeling more than any other part of the hobby.

Mostly working on bulking up the area's that need it. They will then be trimmed to fit, and once I've gotten a sculpting tool or some color shapers I'll apply a thin layer of GS and work the details into it. This also allows me to layer the GS instead of putting a blog on. Again, this should increase the structural stability of load bearing parts.

Not quite what I was expecting from the begining post, but a very interesting read. I'm still trying to decide if I think its a good idea or a crazy one. At the least its a better use of GW parts then my idea:


BTW, Id host your pics on dakka, alot from page one are not working.

Yes, I know the page 1 pics are spotty. Most of them were absolutely terrible and focused more on the close up of the experimentation for the first few nights of this project. Not missing anything other than a few really really goofy looking parts.


Is that a termagent skeleton built out of sprue chunks?

Its a termasprue of Hive Fleet Injection Mold. And he is finished. Its a really slow side project just to make some GW guy go "Wait a minute....". It is 100% GW product, so totally tourny legal (in theory).

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whalemusic360 wrote:Its a termasprue of Hive Fleet Injection Mold. And he is finished. Its a really slow side project just to make some GW guy go "Wait a minute....". It is 100% GW product, so totally tourny legal (in theory).

bwuahahahaha! I like the way your mind works.

Regular ol' Chaos Terminator Lord.

i´ve just read your fluff...since i´m building now a guard themed army you wont find me feeling sympathy for your devils...(slight hint of my kind of good music therein...)
slaughtering innocent guardsmen...

nevertheless a really good read. this will take you away from the sculpting more often as you can´t just leave us readers now with that short teaser...


cheers man, vik

Well I'm officially calling a halt to the production of new parts....at least for the time being. Doing the final trim on everything now, next will be a thin layer of GS and some VERY small attempts at detailing. Mostly I will be looking to get a fairly smooth finish on the GS skin covering the joins. No more pics til everything is cleaned up and primed!

well, optimus prime away^^

vik

Good Luck!

I could do this so much faster, and get much more dynamic results from using pinning on the arm construction and leaving the shoulder join mag'd. Other than that, I'm very happy with the construction so far.


Literally every 5 minutes when I am working "man, if I pinned it like this I could to this....." pops into my head. Le sigh...challenge set for myself is limiting me.

Next batch of arms/terrain maybe.


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The random chopped up bitz and balls of GS that have been worth salvaging from the experimentation process. I need a vacuum cleaner in a really bad way.

Your blog is like an explosion in a warp storm, ... where all the bits have landed in a golden ratio!

so thats a good thing ;-)

I am stress testing the model for simulated falls off a standard height table. If it breaks, I fix it only stronger. I figure if they can survive this, then the model will be sturdy enough to use. Magnets function as "break away zones", so aside from some paint chipping (hello clear varnish spray) this thing should be as strong or stronger than any GW model without pins.


I'm buying a vise and drill as soon as this tedious project is finished!!!!! lol


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And a few pics. Still working on layering GS and smoothing out the area's around the joins. The tabard in the middle isn't glued, just has a GS join curing. Open to suggestions on that area of the model. Coming together nicely imo. Need to get as much as possible done in the next 3 hours since my shawty is flying in today. Something tells me I'm not gonna be doing much modeling the next few days.

Pictured next to a magnetized chaos lord I built about 6 months ago....I'm a slow painter. I was thrilled to see that my model is indeed proportionally about 4 or 5 inches taller than the other one. Edit: By this I mean the bottom of the chin in relation to the top of the terminator cowl. IMO the GW terminator head looks a little oversized.

And yes, I really like the big guns.










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The whole model along with 3 terrain choices being supported by the single pair of magnets at the waist socket.



Part of my highly technical testing method is to throw it against the wall. Literally.



Reassembled in less than 20 seconds.

This is completely nucking futs, but in a good way. Please continue.

Looks great dude

I think I'll be picking up a chaos Spawn kit to accompany my incoming battleforce. I'm convinced the sprue is one of the largest assets a chaos player can have

Recommended reading for all true followers of the ruinous powers!




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Samus_aran115 wrote:Looks great dude

I think I'll be picking up a chaos Spawn kit to accompany my incoming battleforce. I'm convinced the sprue is one of the largest assets a chaos player can have

Absolutely is!!! Tons of arm/head options and even more if you are willing to get creative. Best 30 dollar kit GW puts out IMO....well if you like random ass spare bitz.

your testing methode sound a bit like the t1000 from the T" movie...

vik

Amazing work. Makes me wish I had some termies and my bro would let me have some of his nid stuff; scything talons mostly.

As for your first insperational pic, the one with the demon int he middle, chick on either side holding up the pentagram. The demon in said picture is the mythological demon Baphomet.

I could provide a few pics of other mytho demons to inspire some more amazing work if you would like.

You know, after Christmas (where I'm bound to get something 40k/mold based), I'm going to start a project along the lines of this with multiple pieces that I can swap. It'll help bring my Primarch to life in a way I'd absolutely love. Keep it up!

LeBaron wrote:You know, after Christmas (where I'm bound to get something 40k/mold based), I'm going to start a project along the lines of this with multiple pieces that I can swap. It'll help bring my Primarch to life in a way I'd absolutely love. Keep it up!

I'd really love to see that. Which primarch are you planning on using?


P.S. No progress today or last night. Been ummmm, busy.

It'll be a custom Primarch. I have a certain affinity for Coheed and Cambria and it sets itself up well for a multi use Primarch. So, Coheed will be my Primarch. I've been working on his fluff so you may see that soon enough.

What about Nero? Will they be meeting Al the Killer at a favor house atlantic...Maybe a Jersey Devil?

Trust me, my army is filled with Co&Ca. You'll find just abouty everyone in there.

Maybe I should start a blog about it...

Zippity zap, the boo is asleep so I managed to knock out the 1st stage primer, get everything filed down a bit more to remove the edges, and the legs are curing! IMO the upper thighs have a "ballonish" look to them, but the edges are sharp and the finish is relatively smooth. Everything will be getting 2nd stage primer in a couple of hours when the legs are cured. Yay! Paint starts tonight.


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LeBaron wrote:
Maybe I should start a blog about it...

Do that! Its fun and damn sure gives you something to occupy your hands.

Lebaron - I Would Def follow it I can tell you now!~

Then that's that. I shall start my blog on my CSM group, The Wrong, and their Primarch, The Beast.


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So, I've started my blog for those interested.

Primer is finished (two stage with smoothing)! The GS work is still rough, but I'm COMPLETELY satisfied for my first ever attempt at real conversion. Paint is starting in about 5 minutes.

The armor is going to be black with a silver or bronze trim.

pretty impressive even now^^

good luck and may the brushes be with you...

vik

looks scary

Are all of the pieces going to get painted or just what we see here?

LeBaron wrote:Are all of the pieces going to get painted or just what we see here?

All of them. I've got all the pieces that will be bright/vivid color undercoated with Adeptus Battlegrey, and I'm working on doing 2 arms and a head Iron Warriors style. Most of the armor plating will be black and a few parts (gun parts, blades, etc) are undercoated with Boltgun metal....currently getting the 2nd layer of wash for shadowing before starting to try and develop highlights. I am however a little concerned about doing the yellow and black freehand stripes. Fortunately, I have a woman that wants me to freehand some stuff on her toenails....kinda odd but I figure its a damn good way to practice. Also nice that if I really screw up I can strip each part instead of having to do the whole model.

there are a lot of great work here!

Told my boo that I needed freehand practice and she suggested I try on her toes.....so I did! Did you know hood rat's pay a whole bunch of money for folks to do this?

Also learned that teflon nail polish makes citadel paints look really amazing and "wet".....and its really really tough.

Lol that is one way to find out/test your freehand skills!

Those are some crazy conversion o.O FOR CHAOS!!

My muse went home for a few days, so I'm free to try and knock out the rest of this project. Just ordered a bunch of new bitz off Ebay and itching to try some pinning!

At any rate, here are some pics of early stage painting.

Looking nice. Keep it up!

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Found this picture after I'd started painting....ended up deciding to do the body Iron Warrior style and ordered 5 more pairs of legs from Ebay.











If there is one point I feel that this mini is making its this......





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GS work on the rear is kinda bleh...but it gets the job done I suppose.


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Plus backpack adapter covers the waist join from the rear anyway....hmm.

i really like the green. nice texture...
i´m not that fond with the purple, but the paintjob is good. its just a taste problem^^

vik

Loving how it looks overall!

As much fun as this project has been, and as much as I'm learning from it....I'll never do this level of magnetization again. On the positive side, I could probably pin a model in no time with what I've learned about dynamic posing, load bearing points, and getting a halfway decent GS smooth over joins.

Its also sparked quite the interest in Iron Warriors from me....a legion that likes huge guns, cybernetics, and is the source of a techno-organic virus? Yes preeezze!

Hmm...Maybe I need to look up their 'fluff'?
I love obliterators so it might interest me alot.

I'm really loving this.

Stripping the cannon backpack so I can make it look cohesive....that green won't mesh up with the direction I'm taking the model.

@ Vik
Its Reaper Olive Green with 1 wash of Citadel Thraka Green, then a wash of 1 part Devlan Brown and 1 part Thraka Green. Honestly....I think it looks good enough for a quickie tabletop color with only those 3 layers.

Looks good. Love the IW direction you picked for it.

Photobucket is being completely bizzare and posting pics I deleted 20 minutes ago when I link current pics. Not sure wtf is going on.

Should use Dakka gallery, won't vanish after being seen so often.

^Agreed^ ... No annoying 'Bandwidth exceeded' and gets by most work filters so people can see your pics when they are dakka'ing from work. :-)

Great work on these conversions! All this hard work will leave you with a very original army in the end.

I salute you

Yeah, Dakka gallery doesn't have a one click copy link for images though. I think its because I deleted alot of the bad pics from the start of this build....the ones that were just really really pointless.

Moving along.

ah alright
Love these new pics btw!
Is that a dread with nid bits or vIce versa?

i like that dred/nid creature in the background a lot!

Heh, thanks guys. There are more pics of it as well as gnarly dread scale work by others in Samus_Aran's thread here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/304145.page


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zadelistol wrote:ah alright
Love these new pics btw!
Is that a dread with nid bits or vIce versa?

Its basically an Ironclad Dread puking a Carnifex out of every orifice. You only see about half of it in these pics. Check that thread I linked if you'd like to see the whole thing.

Everything looks pretty nice

Lol I read the comments made about the 'fex dread and thought it would be a musing to have a genestealer cult of chaos! Very tempting to do this though.

That Terminator looks interesting. Will it be a Chaplain? Word Bearer allies perhaps?

Malika2 wrote:That Terminator looks interesting. Will it be a Chaplain? Word Bearer allies perhaps?

Nah, just playing around with arms and a magnetized skull. Its going to be (primarily) an IW Warsmith.

love your termie, and the puples and pinks in the background mate! its all comming along very nicely

Amazing work you have going on. I used to follow chaos. And my gak never looked this good.

nooooo, chaos iron warriors are bad... pre heresy are much better

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:nooooo, chaos iron warriors are bad... pre heresy are much better

And offers far less modeling freedom! Sorry m8, its all about the ruinous powers.

agroszkiewicz wrote:

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:nooooo, chaos iron warriors are bad... pre heresy are much better

And offers far less modeling freedom! Sorry m8, its all about the ruinous powers.

and thats about 80% of the reason I stick with chaos!

Looking really great! But...you never got back to my message!

Who?

Up to date pic of the Warsmith/Oblit



Teaser of my Daemon Prince WIP. Officially moving the Warsmith project to the Iron Warriors blog in my siggy, so this is the last update that for this thread.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/329403.page

nice stuff in here =D

Loving the heretics you've got

This thread is dead! Please follow the link in my siggy for the ongoing biomechanical project.