The title is pretty self explanatory, and I was suprised that there was no thread like this so far (at least as far as the search could tell).

So, what IS the biggest failure you've ever seen either in fluff, GW, real life, or in games? The list should be pretty long.

If there is/was a previous thread like this, my apologies. I could not find any like it, so I thought I'd make one. Just let me know!

I'll get the ball rolling with this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WRSxGUmSbs

I mean seriously, charging a tide of orks? UPHILL? Man, those guys deserved to die... though they were getting charged, but still!

I've always thought that the implication was that the flag was a locator beacon for the drop pods.

Anyways, biggest fail I've ever seen? Taking Aun'Va. I'm not kidding, I've seen it happen in actual games!

I thought similarly to Mekanob. Never thought it was the most accurate of things either, using fluff rules (Which I always thought the video, and the entire Dawn of War series to be using rather than tabletop).

An Ork player declaring a Waaargh, and falling two inches short of the Imperial Guard firing line. I was amused.

Game wise, I once saw a squad of zerkers lose combat to fire wariors... so sad...

Never thought htat it might be a locator beacon.

In fluff-Abbadon the Despoiler (I know it's an old joke but still)
In game-During a campiagn whenever yo won a batlle you got a tile. When you go a tile you could 'explore' your new found territory by rolling a D6. On a 6 you find a nasty monster which attacks you. You roll another D6 to see what type of monster it is and what it's relavant stats are then you must fight it using only your HQ choice. One of my friends rolled 2 6's meaning he facedabout 300+ points of monster nastyness with his 100point HQ choice. Needless to say he got munched.

Let's see,Andy Hoare(combat ranges contradict everything and his Tau fanboyism),Sanguinor,Wolf Cavalry and Imperial Armour fluff is one biggest fails I've ever seen(especially three and eight).

Well, I'll agree on the Sanguiniator, and TWC are weird...

Fluff wise (and if I remembered correctly), how the Crimson Fists' Fortress-monastary was destroyed by a stray bullet...

Gamewise, my friend trying to use the Particle whip on my space marines, missing and accidentally wiping out his Immortals, dropping his numbers low enough for a phase out.

I've heard a similar story like that particle whip. I also heard a great story about the emperor's finest, the Grey Knights, all drowning in a shallow river because they all faailed a dangerous terrain test.

As for me the worst had to be my pariahs losing in CC against tau. Truth be told the only CC engament I've ever won againt tau were against pathfinders and 1 fw squad, both with pariahs.

Three remaining Fire Warriors in a squad took out a Wraithlord (all 3 wounds taken off)

Monolith killing itself with its particle whip.

5 out of 7 Plague Marines die to an exploding rhino beside them (so S3 explosion)

IG veteran squad of 10 guys gets assaulted by a Daemon Prince, only lose 1 man, and then kill the DP in close combat (no powerfist or anything special in close combat)

In a doubles tourney a necron player in a necron-tyranid team took 3 monoliths and several Destroyers. Most of the destroyers were sniped by lascannons and sniper rilfes on turn 1, and the monoliths phased out.

Two trygons with adrenal glands have one wound each left. They charge a Land Raider, it explodes and kills both of them.

Sadly enough thats all I got.

99% of homemade army fluff.

I'd link to some on this very forum, if I wasn't such a kind soul. I acknowledge that there is some good stuff out there(I humbly suggest that mine is at least passable) but man is a lot of it just fething hideous.

3rd edition and its rise of Pamphlet codices.

My vindicator scattered into itself blowing itself up and losing my defense.....man that sucked

Assaulting a SoB Exorcist with my boyz, first assault they fail to break it. Second turn they do, but the explosion kills ALL of them... Wagh?

Playing alongside DE and having his raider blasted turn one, nuking half my grots and a big load of boyz before i even got to move >_<

Anything my scout snipers ever did after their first game.

Their first game, they kept a unit of Kroot pinned for the almost entire game. I think they got to move for 1 turn. My friend lost that game because the huge Kroot mob was his flank attack.

After that game, they did jack gak. Most of the time I even forgot I had them on the table they were so ineffective.

My heavy Weapon crewman was assaulted by 4 Orks. I rolled two 5's and two 6's for his armor saves, he strikes back, kills 1 and they break. Initiative check, I get an 8 while the ork player gets a 4. I finish them off. The next trun my Guardsmen is killed by Grot blasters.

had a IG mob squad with commisar and got assualted by one deff kopta. didnt kill it for 3 turns.

I had one of a Lash Prince lose combat by destroying a dreadnought once.

It was a multiple combat with a Space Marine Dread, a Space Marine captain, an assault marine, the Daemon Prince, and some Noise Marines. Daemon prince goes first, swings at the dreadnought, and gets a few penetrating hits, one of which ends up Destroyed - explodes. The explosion killed the daemon prince and the Noise Marines. So many one's for armor saves.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Fluff wise (and if I remembered correctly), how the Crimson Fists' Fortress-monastary was destroyed by a stray rocket...

Gamewise, my friend trying to use the Particle whip on my space marines, missing and accidentally wiping out his Immortals, dropping his numbers low enough for a phase out.

Fixed that for you.

Playing my first attempt at Mech IG. Three chimeras with vets, who were meant to move forwards towards the objective. Its the first turn. All three have to take an immobilized test thing. re roll due to dozer blade. All three get ones. They break down , vets had to slog it. End of the story lost the game. In the future there is only kak luck.

Fluff: Tau codex refusing to explain how most of their stuff works... I NEED TO KNOW TO SAVE MY SANITY!

Doubles game, ork + tau vs Guard + grey knights
My warboss with 1 remaining wound (and the only thing I had left on the table!) waaaghed, and had to run to be within assault range of a leman russ punisher.

Rolled one inch less than I needed

Had an ork trukk that just finished unloading it's boyz (they all died) and had nothing to do with it so the next turn I decided to run it at stuff for fun. Tankshocked a Obliterator how tried to Death or Glory but just go ran over. Then my opponent shoot it with his terms. It ramshackled into them then exploded killing 3 of em. Best 50 pts I've ever spent.

Leigen_Zero wrote:Doubles game, ork + tau vs Guard + grey knights
My warboss with 1 remaining wound (and the only thing I had left on the table!) waaaghed, and had to run to be within assault range of a leman russ punisher.

Rolled one inch less than I needed

Priceless!

I played Tyranids the other day and my mate was marines, 750 points each. I had a huge swarm of gaunts and he pulled out a drop pod assault on me in turn one. Full tactical sqaud and Pedor Kantor stuffed inside. He aims right for the middle of my swarm and then scatters nine inches right off the table. The look on his face made me laugh till my sides hurt. He looks up at me and pauses for a second and then goes...

Parley?

Running a DS Nid list, i had nothing but Gaunts, A Hive Tyrant, warriors, Tervigon, and a Tyrannofex for 2 whole turns Vs a Mech Ig army. In reserve was Two Tyrgon primes, each with a ravener support squad each.

He grouped his tanks together early on to create a killing feild for my nids (got my Tyranofex and Tyrant down to 1 wound!), neglecting to plan for my Two Trygon Primes and Two Squads of Raveners that Deep-Struck in behind his tank line.

Did you know that the Trygon's Base is big enough to get into multi-assault with THREE different tanks?

You know you can't multi-assault with one model?

As Chris said - you have NO permission (in fact explicit restriction) on multiassaults with one model.

Read the VERY first bullet points on moving into assault.

ChrisCP wrote:You know you can't multi-assault with one model?

original post was bordering on flaming. Just took the issue to YMDC, still i beleive i made a legal assault. I declared on one tank, and given their grouping, i was able to snag 2 more in with him.

My second game. I'm playing Orks vs Space Marines. I ram my battlewagon into a Ironclad Dreadnought. It does not have a Deffrolla. The Ironclad shrugs it off, and then next round it's Ironclad hammertime. The battlewagon explodes, kills half the occupants.

I had no idea really what would happen when I rammed his walker, I just knew you could. I re-read the rules that night.

*Beep beep beep moving trukk*

Nothing to see here

I've seen a 2 laindraiders, first turned, melta'd, filled with GK. In the two explosions, all the GK died...

Sanguinor.

Jeee-sus!

4Chan might go on endlessly about Marneus 'Mary Sue' Calgar, but at least when he defeated an Avatar it was by pure luck. The Sanguinor is a flying Deus Ex Machina.

The rules. Specifically the current "design philosophy" ( if you can call it that ). "Clear rules? Who needs them? Just make something up with your opponent and have fun!" Newsflash: this is the year 2010 and that S#€t just does not cut it.

On a smaller scale:
- Thunder Wolf Cavalry ( )
- Deep Striking Land Raiders ( )

Flying. Psychic. Dreadnought.


I shall take my leave. *Explodes into cloud of smoke and sound of door opening and closing*

Apocalypse Game: My Army with a Baneblade at its center is basically our entire right flank.

Turn 1a: It shoots, kills a bunch of orks, damages a Battlewagon....woop de doo....

Turn 1b: Some strategic asset (Hammerdown? Hammertime? I don't fething know) comes down and hits my Baneblade. Baneblade rolls apocalyptic explosion.

Apocalyptic explosion kills everything I have.

At least your game was short!

In game? I was playing against SM who couldn't roll cover saves to save his life. No lie, he rolled 75% 1's and 2's for every save he rolled. Super nice guy, just really unlucky.

I've also had a friend's assualt squad take out my Griffon with melta bombs, only to have the exploding Griffon wipe out the squad. TAKE THAT MISTER SPACE MARINE.

Worst fail ever for me was having a Sister of Battle squad, in a crater, get assaulted by 5 ogryns and a Lord commissar. A few sisters die, but the flamers and sergeant survive (good since opponent is playing mostly hordes). On my turn I have an immobilized Immolator a few inches away carrying my canonness and, tooled up for melee, celestian retinue come out. They make it to within 2 inches of the ogryns, I rolll for difficult terrain in my assault phase and get snake eyes...

Canoness + retinue were shot to pieces in my opponents phase, the sister squad died to the Lord Commissar and his ogryns, that entire flank crumpled and it ended up costing me the game.

Thank you snake eyes.

Thunderwolf Cavalry.

Blood Angels Captains.

Seaward wrote:Thunderwolf Cavalry.

Blood Angels Captains.

Why?

Hmm biggest fails?
I watched a friend of mine play an eldar player in an apocolypse battle, the eldar play had his ENTIRE infantry force (jetbikes included) in or near a single building then his titan has an apocalyptic explosion destroying the bulding and killing his entire infantry force in and around that building

I saw the same eldar player fill up his troop choice with only eldar snipers upgraded to path finders thinking that was going to beat mech guard

I played my little brothers guard (when tyranids were in 4th edition codex and guard had their 5th edition) a lone guardsmen sargent with a powerfist killed 8 genestealers that charged him, he then went on to kill a tooledup carnifex that also charged him and it had it's full wounds when it charged that really ruined my day

I played a friend of mine against his space marines, he had marneus calgar with tooled up honorgaurd and his upgraded armor after a previous fight he had one wound left but his honorgaurd were untouched he shoots his whirlwind at my dark eldar archon (this is before DE got updated) it scatters back hits marneus and his honorgaurd killing them all gotta say I was lovin' it!

My vanguard squad assualted a 15 guardsmen. They lost 10 guardsmen. Next turn I lose every single vanguard veteran. from the 5 remaining guardsmen. Next turn my captain gets into combat with them, he dies. Next turn my dreadnought breaks open a leman russ. The guardsmen had a grenade launcher and saw my back armor and my dreadnought died.

Biggest fail for me? The Eldar fluff.

"The Eldar are a dwindling race, and all life is precious... NOW BEHOLD WHILE WE GIVE OUR MILITIA 12" RANGE GUNS! We could have given them Lasblasters but the Swooping Hawks needed them for a light show."

Oh yeah, and a while ago I was annoyed that Harlequins where better close combat guys than trained Aspect warriors, but people pointed out how awesome Harlequins are fluff wise....

And then Incubi appeared.

Shadow - guard sarges cant get powerfist, from memory. They could in 4th, possibly....

zonino wrote:Biggest fail for me? The Eldar fluff.

"The Eldar are a dwindling race, and all life is precious... NOW BEHOLD WHILE WE GIVE OUR MILITIA 12" RANGE GUNS! We could have given them Lasblasters but the Swooping Hawks needed them for a light show."

Oh yeah, and a while ago I was annoyed that Harlequins where better close combat guys than trained Aspect warriors, but people pointed out how awesome Harlequins are fluff wise....

And then Incubi appeared.

Your Avatar is brilliant

nosferatu1001 wrote:Shadow - guard sarges cant get powerfist, from memory. They could in 4th, possibly....

Sorry I forgot to mention it was a vet squad, and sarge can take powerfist for 15pts my bad still though it was a horrible experience

Biggest fail I saw was an apoc tank army. Against an apoc Khorn army with a gak ton of MCs (so ang'grath, angron, bloodthristers.) Khorn players use blind barrage and manages to DS just behind it so his opponent couldn't see him. Needless to say it was a shotr apoc game.

A unit of Veteran IG numbering 6 are assaulted by Kharn. Kharn attacks and kills one IG. The IG attacks and kills Kharn. It was hilarious.

The stormraven model. I dislike it.

I'll place a fail vote on GW's prices seriously 62.00 USD + tax for necron monolith or SM landraider!? 50.00 USD + tax for 5 plastic SM termies!? I'm not sure what is being damaged more here our dignity or our wallets

ShadowZetki wrote:I'll place a fail vote on GW's prices seriously 62.00 USD + tax for necron monolith or SM landraider!? 50.00 USD + tax for 5 plastic SM termies!? I'm not sure what is being damaged more here our dignity or our wallets

Having read some 40k blogs and listened to a few podcasts, I would say that the wallet is the only one of those things that the 40k community at large has left.

Other than Table Top War, of course. I love that blog.

^Yeah and like 50 bucks for a ravager, thats about 10 bucks for each gunner since that the only real difference from the raider.

But truley the biggest 40k failure->Metal models

/thread

exact same time post!!!

Yeah prices are just insane, I think I can safely say that we barely keep our dignity over our wallets because honestly who is actually smiling for real when they buy that 50$+ model that they can rarely afford? It hurts inside man That truely is a fail hell I'm not even sure you can call that metal it looks more like tin or somethin like that

asimo77 wrote:exact same time post!!!

Legendary!

So how about that eldar battleforce now that is terrible, wohoo a walker and a transport... where the hell did the infantry go? I mean dude you dont even get as many as you would if you bought the normal boxes for the infantry.. 90USD+Tax+Complete lack of models=FAIL (or some serious trolling)

Throwing out my first Ork army after deciding I was getting too old to play with toys.

Guess I'll never grow up

White Dwarf


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VikingScott wrote:The stormraven model. I dislike it.

Like

lost 5 wound on my mawloc for 14 kroot and i was the one who charged (all in one round of combat)

Had a game a few nights ago where a Daemon Prince and a Carnifex spent 3 full turns in combat without injuring each other once.

Finally a squad of bloodcrushers had to come in and show the DP how it's done.



Different game, had a squad of 7 fire dragons spend 2.5 turns exchanging fire with a pack of 5 ML longfangs at point-blank range. Total number of deaths before the game ended? 4.

Had a kos all biker Ork army. My sm opponent was set across a swampland that we had declared dangerous terrain. No sweat, I think. I took my tooled up Nob biker squad (full 10 with banner and dok) along with my warboss and jet across the swamp. Nine ones. That's right. Nine.

Needless to say the charge wasn't as spectacular as it might have been.

I tried out the Tau for one game, it was 1,000 pts and I was fighting my best friend's Tau. I had 48 firewarriors, a hammerhead, a few stealth suits and my Crisis commander. He had lots more suits, two hammerheads and some firewarriors and kroot. Turn one, he goes first. Two submunition blasts later and I'm down almost half of my firewarriors. Through the rest of his shooting I end up on my first turn with one stealth suit, 14 fire warriors and a one-wound left commander. I never played them again.

On a positive note, I had a Hive Tyrant assault my IG gunline, decimating three squads before it ran into my lascannon teams. In close combat, he managed to whiff every attack and we killed him in cc. Glory to the Guard!

the Tau

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:The title is pretty self explanatory, and I was suprised that there was no thread like this so far (at least as far as the search could tell).

So, what IS the biggest failure you've ever seen either in fluff, GW, real life, or in games? The list should be pretty long.

If there is/was a previous thread like this, my apologies. I could not find any like it, so I thought I'd make one. Just let me know!

I'll get the ball rolling with this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WRSxGUmSbs

I mean seriously, charging a tide of orks? UPHILL? Man, those guys deserved to die... though they were getting charged, but still!

Yeah, pretty epic fail. It wasn't even a 'tide' of orks. More like a unit of boyz versus at least 10 spesh marines and a dreadnough....

Biggest 40k Fails?
Mandrakes. In a Raider, with an Archon. The new mandrakes, I mean.

In a team game of SM and tyranids vs Chaos, dawn of war deployment. My friend walks his MM equipped dread onto the table rolls fire frenzy. He turns to the land raider he just put on the table about 8" away and blows it to hell. He's never taken a dreadnought again, lol.

Also, I had Eldrad joined to a squad of Banshees and got charged by a full squad of khorne beserkers(my bad). Eldrad passes everyone of his fortunes saves that turn and takes out a couple beserkers. Next turn, cast fortune. 11 on the psychic test. Cast fortune again. 11 on the psychic test. During CC, the beserkers put three wounds on me and I fail all three saves.

That same game, I had just blew up a rhino or some such with my wraithguard. Out come a squad of regular chaos marines, no biggy right? They charge, roll 7 or so 6s to wound and I can't make one 3+ save. fml.

blood angels and space wolves.

GamzaTheChaos wrote:blood angels and space wolves.

Why, exactly? Can I have a legitimate reason? kthxs

Punctuation and grammar fail rather hard on 40k forums at times.

In a game against Tau with my old space wolves in 4th edition by turn 3 all my units except my wolf lord with one wound left and 1 land speeder with no weapons left. My wolf lord then managed to cc almost his entire army including farsight, making well over 60 some armour saves and invul saves except one which i was able to re-roll with some special item (name escapes me now). Leaving him with only 2 stealth suits and a hammerhead. The hammerhead spent the next 3 turns shooting at the wolf lord. meanwhile my land speeder spent the rest of the game just zooming around the board. I made him shoot down the land speeder before ending the game.

In my game tonight: Lysander and Librarian with a squad of Sternguard use Gate of Infinity to teleport within about 6 inches of my Long Fangs, wiping them out with AP3 bolter fire. They're all bunched up, and my Vindicator comes on - just in range to fire a nice, fat large blast to hit 'em all (no cover saves!). So what happens? The blast scatters 7 inches, hits my own Rhino, and blows the Storm bolter off.

Kharn charges into combat alongside five berzerkers. Rolls five ones, Kharn fights alone. (Then gets punk'd by Grey Hunters)

And come on, no mention for Boreale?

5 Meganobz versus immobilzed Predator Tank. 9 penetrating hits. Eight ones and a two.

Sandman - in 5th yuo just take a wound, not die outright. Which helps!

Dok - You dont roll CHaos dreads powers when you walk on from reserves, as a) it is done before they move on, and b) if you roll fire frenzy it doesnt make it onto the table. AS this is a unit special rule that could stop a unit from entering play, it is ignored for that turn.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Fluff wise (and if I remembered correctly), how the Crimson Fists' Fortress-monastary was destroyed by a stray bullet...

You can't criticize the original bit of 40k fluff! And it was a big-arse rocket, not a stray bullet

That picture on the original rulebook, and what it represents, epitomises what 40k is all about - of brave heroes making a last stand in a universe that really wants to kill them, but ultimately dying.

Personally I think the biggest fail has been the 'turning' of Horus in False Gods. The biggest event in the entire 40k universe (in that his decision sets up everything that comes afterwards) and why did it happen? He got stabbed by a magic sword. And the marines were worried about being replaced .. or something. Why did it happen again?

Please, please, please, please give the readership some credit for their intelligence black library, and release a new book which goes through these events in more detail. The original concept for the Heresy was taken from Milton's Paradise Lost. Horus decided that it was better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven. Instead what we got was a plot line lifted straight from Xena: Warrior Princess - 'A wizard did it'.

Pacific - each of the books gives more detail; First Heretic certainly added some more meat (hint: 40 years of being converted to that POV by Word Bearers, for a start) - and you're being unfair; it wasnt the "magic sword" that turned him, but the convincing images he recieved of the Emperors plan for mankind.

Current Nid codex art cover.
Disgraceful picture.

Hah, Try the BA codex cover. MUCH worse!

Got cajoled into playing for the Imperial side in a shop Apocalypse game. Had chaos warhound (mmmm, my precious!) and a couple other S/H tanks there.

The opposing force landed 3 vindicator shells on my warhounds head, from 3 different units. FIrst shell downed a shield. Fair enough! So did the second. OK, but I still have 3 structure points so I will be ok as long as...

3rd on: Penetrating 6. 6 on SH chart - 1 structure point down, reroll! another 6, 2nd one down, reroll....6. Final structure point gone. OK, roll on SH dmaage chart - Yep, you guessed it, 6 - Apocalyptic explosion. Only rolled 30" range, but that was enough to S;D pretty much the entire Imperial army.

I simply claimed it was their fault for believing triator mechanicus would ever help them out....

asimo77 wrote:^Yeah and like 50 bucks for a ravager, thats about 10 bucks for each gunner since that the only real difference from the raider.

It's not even that - Raider is two large sprues. Reaver is two large sprues. (the two kits just have different accessory sprues)

Price difference is because of???

From an aesthetic model PoV does anyone remember the 2nd edition ork bikes/warbuggies/wartracks?

Im giggling just thinking of them right now.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Pacific - each of the books gives more detail; First Heretic certainly added some more meat (hint: 40 years of being converted to that POV by Word Bearers, for a start) - and you're being unfair; it wasnt the "magic sword" that turned him, but the convincing images he recieved of the Emperors plan for mankind.

I thought First Heretic did a good job of explaining why the Word Bearers turned (although you could argue that they never really changed their course).

But consider the situation with Horus: For over 200 years he has fought at the forefront of his father's armies. Together they have essentially carved out the Imperium. Regarding their relationship, I don't think 'father and son' would come close, certainly in the way we understand it, to how close the bond must have been between them. So, how do you create the premise where Horus decides that, actually, he has going to turn on everything he has ever known?
Much weight is put into the 'visions' Horus receives, about the future state of the Imperium. Also, there are a couple of pages dealing with them being left on their own, and potentially cast out after there is no longer any need for them. But is that enough? Obviously McNeil doesn't think so, and so we have the 'wizard did it' narrative method (call it 'anathaema' or whatever, it doesn't change what it is, which is a magic sword).
Essentially it just means that any kind of rational cause and effect goes out of the window. You can just answer any question regarding Horus' decision making with '*shrug* chaos'

Examples:
Q: How did Horus come to terms with killing not only members of other legions, but also his own gene-sires. And not only that, but members of his own closest sons in the Mournival?
A: *shrug* chaos.
Q: Why did he decide to dismantle the Imperium at it's very roots, disrupting the mars-terra alliance and control of the navigator guilds, factors essential for the survival of the Imperium?
A: *shrug* chaos.
Q: Why did he trust the machinations of someone he had already previously regarded as a sycophant, over not only one of his closest brothers but also the explicit instructions of his father, under the most highly dubious of circumstances?
A: *shrug* chaos.
Q: Why does Horus turn his back on effectively everything he has ever known, murdering his own brothers and beginning a civil war which he must have known would essentially tear the Imperium apart?
A: *shrug* chaos.

All of those things above are massive factors in their own right. I had no idea how the BL writers could have made the plot development regarding the turning of Horus believable, but I always hoped they would have had a better try (and certainly given it more content) than the middle section of one HH book. As is stands, I think perhaps the most important plot-line in the 40k fantasy world has been woefully under-represented.

Just my thoughts, sorry for the rant!

My biggest fail was 5 IG infantry rapid fire into 10 tactical marines and killing 7! He rolled 7 wounds and I rolled 7 1's and 2's

My shadowsword the first time I used it, stunned a leman russ and got one-shotted by a warhound titans Turbolaser, 3 Chain Reactions! Soooo..worth buying and getting it ready in time for that game.

WOrd Bearers Chaplains whispering in his ear for 40 years, including the first heretic - Erebus. That might do it.

He was heavily disasstisfied with the way the Crusade was run once the emperor went back to Terra - fighting for it but never benefiting, High Lords being b'crats, etc. It doesnt take long, with someone poisoning your ear, to turn you against a distant figure.

Was playing my BA against this one jack-asses IG. After a game full of asshatery and bs, he fires a battlecannon at a plasma pistol my Chaplain (leading my 7 man DC, all in jumppacks) is poking out from behind the building they are taking cover in. #rd edition rules, legal. Just a bit of a Dick Move, but whatever. It scatters and covers the whole DC, with the chaplain; no partials (yeah, yeah, yeah; spacing, I learnt it). Dude picks up a red die for the Chaplain, 7 white dice for the DC, and rolls 8 ones. I tried very hard not to be a dick and laugh in his face, but when I had to turn away and bite my hand I think I gave myself away.

@Nos - word, we weren't exactly sure how to play it so we just rolled it anyway. To awesome and lol-worthy results!

nosferatu1001 wrote:Hah, Try the BA codex cover. MUCH worse!

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Yeah definitely! And it's worse when you consider some of the awesome artwork inside the book itself.

The Tyranid codex cover is a lot better if you see the whole picture. I just think it was cropped a little badly, although I admit it wasn't one of Adrian Smith's best.

But, with this alongside photoshopped pictures on the front of boxes, shows a marked eduction in the quality of GW's presentation. And the famous 'upside down heavy bolter' on the IG box shows exactly how much effort is being put into it.

Wow this topic is still going strong, cool
I got another one. How long has saruon been a leman russ tank accoring to GW just sayin if that guys is a IG tank then the fellowship might be in trouble

Pacific wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:Hah, Try the BA codex cover. MUCH worse!

..

Yeah definitely! And it's worse when you consider some of the awesome artwork inside the book itself.

The Tyranid codex cover is a lot better if you see the whole picture. I just think it was cropped a little badly, although I admit it wasn't one of Adrian Smith's best.

But, with this alongside photoshopped pictures on the front of boxes, shows a marked eduction in the quality of GW's presentation. And the famous 'upside down heavy bolter' on the IG box shows exactly how much effort is being put into it.

Must post a pic of that

My Sarge (with no PF) resist in cc against a wraithlord for 4 turns. At the 6th turn of the game, a fresh arrived termiesquad assault him a wipe him out... The sarge have been awarded as "lucky imperial son of B°*°*°"... The Eldar farseer refused to use that soulstone again, and gifted it to slaanesh

Hah, just saw two new ones today.

First was a guy with 'special' dice- picked out by their mold lines for LD, hitting and wounding and saves, and all that crap.

Second was 2 Daemon Princes Warptiming, both fail psychic tests. The Resulting wound brings them both down to one wound. One runs and hides like a sissy, the other charges a BA vanguard squad with Termie Captain and Sanguiniary preist. Prince survives, and kills the Captain who rolls three ones for his invul saves.

Okay- where to begin...
30 'eavy armoured boyz with ghazghkull lose to yarrick and veterans in CC?
Scout squad Caddius!
So far, sgt. Caddius and his men have killed:
Tac squad
Land speeder
DP
Monolith
Chaplain
Chapter master
Avatar
Stompa
3 SM bikes
Predator
Vindicator x2
Creed
Kell
CCS
Leman russ x2
That's by an 80pt squad. 5 men.
In CC.
Over 10 games.
What's interesting is it's only Caddius that does anything, and he only does anything when his squad is killed. And the moral of the story? Don't make him angry.
This is the magnitude of his reputation when plaing against my regular gaming opponent, Andyroo9000-
Apoc. game. 2 squads on board. Scout squad Caddius- or 10 vanguard veterans, 6 w/ TH/SS, 4 W/ 2 LCs. 2 Captains w/ jump packs. Korvydae. Shrike. Chapter master. Unit worth over 1,700 points.
He shot Caddius. With everything in range.
He survived w/ one casualty. Caddius got angry. Killed an entire tac. squad. and 3 bikes. .

Every bit of artwork depicting Crisis suits. Hell, even Adrian Smith couldn't do it right

ChiliPowderKeg wrote:Every bit of artwork depicting Crisis suits. Hell, even Adrian Smith couldn't do it right

http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&q=tau+crisis#/d1qqrky

Great rules, bad model. Sorta the opposite of legion of the damned!

Ah, another that I can't believe I missed earlier. In a game with my space marines against my buddy's SWs. I had a terminator chapter master tooled up in a LR crusader with a full compliment of assault termies. I scooted it down the edge of the board thus blocking off half of it. He surrounded it with bikers and then we had "the melta shot heard round the world" where a gray hunter melta'd the LR to death (4th ed). There went almost 800 pts of my army to poor placement and a lucky melta shot.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Hah, Try the BA codex cover. MUCH worse!

Got cajoled into playing for the Imperial side in a shop Apocalypse game. Had chaos warhound (mmmm, my precious!) and a couple other S/H tanks there.

The opposing force landed 3 vindicator shells on my warhounds head, from 3 different units. FIrst shell downed a shield. Fair enough! So did the second. OK, but I still have 3 structure points so I will be ok as long as...

3rd on: Penetrating 6. 6 on SH chart - 1 structure point down, reroll! another 6, 2nd one down, reroll....6. Final structure point gone. OK, roll on SH dmaage chart - Yep, you guessed it, 6 - Apocalyptic explosion. Only rolled 30" range, but that was enough to S;D pretty much the entire Imperial army.

I simply claimed it was their fault for believing triator mechanicus would ever help them out....

loaded dice much?


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gotta be pedro kantor orbital bombarding a sterngard unit that was flanking and abolutely destroying my boys as well as their drop pod on turn 5. Game them ended giving me the 2 KP i needed to win. I was down by 1, so if he hadnt used orbital bombardment, I would have won.

Nope, given it was MY warhound he killed, and HE was rolling the dice. I then rolled the 6s on killing vehicles in my half....

They were standard GW dice, bought that day. He knows he will never get that again, dice gods being like they are....

An awesome fail on my friend's part was when one Kroot(not one unit of kroot, one kroot) killed the three 3 remaining members of a SM tac squad, and put two wounds on a SM captain before he was finally killed. (I love playing tau!)

Spending a whole turn of Tau (not mine, was borrowing to use in that game) shooting trying to kill 5 terminators, killing only one. Next turn the termies shoot a squad of firewarriors off the table and assault a second squad, the squad holding my one objective. After the game me and my friend realized that saves didn't stack. This made a big difference, as two more terminators would have died, and they would not have been able to drop the first squad and then contest.

In a recent tourney, I had 3 turns over 2 games where not one lascannon shot glanced or penetrated. Nothing higher than AV12 was targeted. That was a total of 42 lascannon shots.

1) The latest Chaos Space Marine codex, which has reduced the most vibrant and dynamic background in the game universe into the most boring and characterless army on the tabletop.

2) That FW have released 3 books now which take the opportunities for an exciting chaos army to levels not seen since 2nd edition, but no-one seems to know or care about them. Perhaps because they are so prohibitively expensive? Or because people seem so preoccupied with 'tournament legal', even though if we were brutally honest tournament games make up a tiny percentage of the total number of games played.

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:

Seaward wrote:Thunderwolf Cavalry.

Blood Angels Captains.

Why?

Nobody ever plays them.

AspireToGlory wrote:

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:

Seaward wrote:Thunderwolf Cavalry.

Blood Angels Captains.

Why?

Nobody ever plays them.

Plenty of people play them. Most people think they are OTT and ridiculous.

AspireToGlory wrote:

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:

Seaward wrote:Thunderwolf Cavalry.

Blood Angels Captains.

Why?

Nobody ever plays them.

Why?

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:

AspireToGlory wrote:

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:

Seaward wrote:Thunderwolf Cavalry.

Blood Angels Captains.

Why?

Nobody ever plays them.

Why?

Plenty of people play them. Most people think they are OTT and ridiculous.

which is exactly why plenty play them

How are they ott?

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:How are they ott?

They are S5 T5 W2 A4
With the correct equipment you can play shenanigans with wound allocation and they last even longer.
They also have rending in close combat.
Most peole say they are OTT because it's marines riding wolves... I'm not really sure about why that makes them redidculous but go figure.

Damn it guys. Ive been talking about BA captains, not twc

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Damn it guys. Ive been talking about BA captains, not twc

oh that's easy.
They are outclassed by every other choice.


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Although fair point i should have realised my bad.

purplefood wrote:

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:How are they ott?

They are S5 T5 W2 A4
With the correct equipment you can play shenanigans with wound allocation and they last even longer.
They also have rending in close combat.
Most peole say they are OTT because it's marines riding wolves... I'm not really sure about why that makes them redidculous but go figure.

I was gonna say, since when do Captains get S5 T5?! Crikey, I'm playing BA now.

Haha

Ah yes. My team's gk squad trying to take the last wound of the dp. Then a mere imperial guardsman (I had two left in the squad) felled it with a lasbolt.

Oh and lord Hector rex taking on all demons, fighting on despite being hopelessly outnumbered.

I thought of another one- my collection of unpainted minis... that must change...

Oh, and 29 heads for 5 SW! (Not sure if thats an epic win, though... I just wish GW would charge less)

My two best moments came from my captain.

1st: Captain is alone after the retinue died defending his sorry ass. He closes in for a melee fight, but he misses the charge and is left in the mid of the field. Since its endgame, there's not much firepower going his way, and he only gets 3 wounds. He was completely healthy up until that point. He rolls 3x 1 and dies.

2nd: Last game, cap DSs with Sternguards onto an empty table. Al Rahem and his blob come from the flank, shoot at my dudes killing 6 but dont have the charge. Cap decides to charge them with what's left of the Sternguard. He and the 4 Sternguard kill 6 guardsmen in shooting, charge them and kill 20 more in melee in 2 turns. Cap's retinue died again but he didn't even take single wound. The blob had 3 power weapons, and a comissar.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
The opposing force landed 3 vindicator shells on my warhounds head, from 3 different units. First shell downed a shield. So did the second. Penetrating 6. 6 on SH chart - 1 structure point down, reroll! another 6, 2nd one down, reroll....6. Final structure point gone.

I can top that. Store apoc. game- I lent this ork kid who had crappy units my stompa (made out of a mr potato head) and a iggy player who had crappy unit my shadowsword domination force. the Shadowsword kid fired the volcano cannon. direct hit. instant penetration. chain reaction. chain reaction. chain reaction. wrecked. then, in the next turn, he shot his D weapon again on the only other stompa (despite the fact that we deployed our vanguard vets, shrike, korvydae, dante, more vanguard vets and scout bikers right behind it. direct hit. auto-pen. chain reaction. chain reaction. chain reaction. kaboom. explosion. killed the BA player's vanguard squad, 2 of my veterans, and killed dante. that was the 2nd and final turn (ran out of time). a very fitting ending to the game.

shrike wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
The opposing force landed 3 vindicator shells on my warhounds head, from 3 different units. First shell downed a shield. So did the second. Penetrating 6. 6 on SH chart - 1 structure point down, reroll! another 6, 2nd one down, reroll....6. Final structure point gone.

I can top that. Store apoc. game- I lent this ork kid who had crappy units my stompa (made out of a mr potato head) and a iggy player who had crappy unit my shadowsword domination force. the Shadowsword kid fired the volcano cannon. direct hit. instant penetration. chain reaction. chain reaction. chain reaction. wrecked. then, in the next turn, he shot his D weapon again on the only other stompa (despite the fact that we deployed our vanguard vets, shrike, korvydae, dante, more vanguard vets and scout bikers right behind it. direct hit. auto-pen. chain reaction. chain reaction. chain reaction. kaboom. explosion. killed the BA player's vanguard squad, 2 of my veterans, and killed dante. that was the 2nd and final turn (ran out of time). a very fitting ending to the game.

Lets see if you can come through this time. Pics or it doesn't exist

Few weeks ago, playing vs CSM. Immobilized Rhino in the table, my unit of 9 orks + Nob with PK assaults the Rhino to open it. The Rhino explodes, no one CSM dies. 8 orks + the Nob died with the explosion and the one who survived flee away.

was playing a doubles game, chaos and latd vs guard and DA, my daemon prince kills a lrbt only to get tank shocked by a second one the next turn, and with my luck rolls an 11 for his ld and gets autokilled

Guy deploys a deathstrike in his IG agzinst my eldar
he gets 1st turn
Deathstrile kills 4/5 of my army

Monster Rain wrote:Punctuation and grammar fail rather hard on 40k forums at times.

You sir, most certainly do not fail.

biggest 40k fails eh? I'll just have to start posting battle reports with my Imperial fists then, if what they do on the tabletop was reflected in the fluff, lets just say the Imperial Fists would be going the way of the Dodo.

Had a friend charge a group of 10 PAGK with his Daemon Prince of Nurgle through terrain.

Let's just say that he was rudely reminded that Nemesis Force Weapons confer +2S to any model wielding them...

mmm... Any time I move my jump pack models too close and get charged is always a good one @_@

abaddon276 wrote:was playing a doubles game, chaos and latd vs guard and DA, my daemon prince kills a lrbt only to get tank shocked by a second one the next turn, and with my luck rolls an 11 for his ld and gets autokilled

That isnt how Tank Shock works. Your prince is fearless, so doesnt take a morale check at all for Tank Shock. He can CHOOSE to either move out of the way OR attempt a death or glory. Only if he does the latter AND fails to stop the vehicle does he get removed.

Tank Shock is funny against special characters if they fail the Death or Glory... I'd like to try that one, actually.

Always worked fine for me... tank shock is an opportunity for me, not for opponets- I had a rhino kill a wraithlord!

FIghting against Eldar....thanks to his shield of awesomeness, all my S9 weapons turned into S8.....

I rolled 3s for nearly every single armor pen roll against Wave Serpents.

When I played Witch Hunters not too long ago, a pal of mine would always move his Rhinos six inches on the first turn and then disembarks whoever is in it if I had an Exorcist somewhere on the board. He also refused to pop smoke, saying that 'it is too valuable to waste'.

I don't know why he acts differently now that I play armor-heavy Imperial Guard lists.

For a decent Space Wolf player, he made some really stupid decisions sometimes.

Was facing a friend and My Berzurkers where setting up to charge his squad(cant remember if it was a devastator squad or tactical.)
Well I was a little too far to assault that turn so I ended it after shooting(the zurkers ran)
On his turn he didn't move the squad(big mistake) and in shooting he shot with his vindicator at the zurkers and missed, hitting his on squad, killing them all.

Gotta be careful with them vindis... especially when termies are involved!

charged a 3 man TWC squad with an attached Lord with FB with 6 th/ss 1lc termies last week ... I didn't get an attack through and I got wiped due to fearless wounds ...

everytime a guard transport blows up I'm left with 3 special weapons and a serge ... from my vet squad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81i1pillP4Y This video (especially the description) is full of fail