Instead of telling us already, GW announced the next wave of Blood Angels in February 2011 in their 'newsletter' to be seen on Monday.

- StormRaven?
- Furioso?
- more?

Can't they have us enjoy it on Sunday?

EDIT:

Major dissapointment.

We have to wait and see.
An announcement of less substance was rarely seen.
Since their x-mas special gifts are chaos-icons can't we accuse them of Heresy and ?

Pft. They just like being polite and warning us about their big announcement the next day!

Take heed, video game companies and Apple. This is the way forward. Politeness and newsletters!

Well, the Stormraven pic has leaked out already:


And there's a kind of different looking Furioso back there that could be plastic. Figure a Stormraven, a Furioso, and a battleforce with some Death Company and said dreadnought. That's my conjecture anyway.

Have there been rumors of a new Battleforce? I figure the Stormraven's a given, the dread wouldn't surprise me...

Seriously, when can the wolves get some 2nd wave love?

Brother SRM wrote:Well, the Stormraven pic has leaked out already:


And there's a kind of different looking Furioso back there that could be plastic. Figure a Stormraven, a Furioso, and a battleforce with some Death Company and said dreadnought. That's my conjecture anyway.

That would make sense.
Are BA waiting for anything else to be released? (Other than the Death Company/ Librarian Dread, which I would imagine would be included in with a Furioso. At least I hope it is!)

So more Skaven in Jan and more Blood Angels in Feb, not a sight on either of those armies but just having wave releases seems to me to be a bit of a slow start to the year.

Prophecy07 wrote:Have there been rumors of a new Battleforce?

Yes: on the webpage that revealed the new Stormraven, the painter mentioned that he had painted it up to match the battleforce shown in the February White Dwarf.

Well this is annoying what about the other armies that need models still and have been out longer, ie tyranids, wovles.
This yet again is the werid but apperently brilllant GW logic .

Another "We're going to tell you something... but not now!" newsletter.

They understand what newsletters are right?

They don't even have a teaser pic?

YAWN bloodangles dont need anything new give the rest of 40k something new!

munkeey wrote:YAWN bloodangles dont need anything new give the rest of 40k something new!

What like dark eldar?

They were overdue granted but the blood angles already had a do over this year, move on already.

a new honor guard squad would be nice other than that, do we need anything else :? BA termy kit? that would be nice

Maybe the spacehulk sprue?

munkeey wrote:They were overdue granted but the blood angles already had a do over this year, move on already.

You know they've been doing this with most armies so far, right? Initial release comes, then a second wave later?

I'm going to flip my gak if in a few months time (hopefully) we get the venom and other DE kits, and people start bitching about it. "OMG we just GOT Dark Eldar, moar Spess Mahreenz!"

Prophecy07 wrote:Seriously, when can the wolves get some 2nd wave love?

oldone wrote:Well this is annoying what about the other armies that need models still and have been out longer, ie tyranids, wovles.
This yet again is the werid but apperently brilllant GW logic .

The Space Wolves don't need any more models. The only model not represented within the Codex is the Thunderwolves. They would sell very well, but there are plenty of other options out there and it's GW's loss. So no, once again, Space Wolves do not need any more models.

Thunderwolf. Cyberwolf. A Wolf Lord/Priest/etc. kit (similar to the new SM hero kit). A Logan model that doesn't suck. I didn't say it had to be a BIG wave...

Logan doesn't really suck, though. Painted up nice he still looks awesome.

Now Ragnar, that's a model that could use an update.

Cyberwolf is covered by the Thunderwolf possibility and the rest have existing models and the Logan Model is actually very popular.

It's not to much a wave as more of a drop IMHO...

Why Blood Angels? there are plenty of opportunities for conversions from standard SM models. Why not something new, such as a new Inquisition, or Necron Codex?

I agree that Blood Angels are very much open to conversions, although the Storm Raven and Furioso aren't so much so models would be good for these.
However, a new Codex is very different from new models.

Thaanos wrote:Why Blood Angels? there are plenty of opportunities for conversions from standard SM models. Why not something new, such as a new Inquisition, or Necron Codex?

The Stormraven is at least something new, if ugly. But there's no excuse for making moulds for a fifth plastic Dreadnought (AoBW, standard, Ironclad, Venerable, Furioso) when you could already make a dual DCCW dread from the Ironclad kit.

Space Marines sell. Thats the reasoning for this

Am I the only person excited for a BA second wave? Haha. Seriously though, this might be the first plastic dreadnaught that I buy, not including the ones that I have from AoBR that I converted-one has the wings of a Lord of Change and a chaos knight lance to be my Librarian Dreadnaught, and one has a couple of claws-one from forgeworld-to be my death company dread.

So what does this announcement do to the projections regarding the expected release of DH?

@ Snake-Probably a March release for Grey Knights-I'm pretty sure (don't quote me) that they were saying February or March release for them. Just means it's March now instead.

I believe GK is going to be a March release.

GW has really slowed down its releases. When was the last Warhammer Fantasy army book released? When will the next one be released? Rumours point to O&G in May or something which means there's over a year between Warhammer releases. Are we down to one Warhammer armies book and two 40K codex books a year?

GW released four Warhammer army books in 2008, two in 2009 and only one 2010 (while we got three 40K codices in 2010)? Am I missing something here? Tomb Kings are playing with their book from 2003 and there's no book in sight for 2011. To me it seems that the reason why noone knows what GW is doing and what they will be releasing next for each of their game systems is because GW isn't really doing much.

TK are slated after Orcs IIRC. Maybe costs/whotnot are making revamps expensive. I dont know what I'm talking about though

This year was 3x 40k army books. I could care less about fantasy. It is still way too unbalanced to be enjoyed by all armies; yes they need new army books bad. I wouldn't expect more than three 40K books this year as well. The two first up are Grey Knights and Necrons. The third is still up in the air and could be anybody's guess. GW works on several armies at a time and are at various stages of development, so we will see who pulls ahead on the third release by late summer.

Perhaps another SM codex ? Theres always that chance that GW doesnt have faith in GK...( )

I could care less about fantasy.

You mean you couldn't care less, right? If you could care less it means that you do care about fantasy. Although it escapes me why anyone would be interested in whether you care about GW's slower and slower release schedule or not.

Therion wrote: Although it escapes me why anyone would be interested in whether you care about GW's slower and slower release schedule or not.

Well as he said we had 3 40k codexes this year and 2 expansions (battle missions came out this year right? then theres spearhead but that sorta doesnt count I suppose). Multiple models, some of which are quite large like trygons. Thats not too slow

Maybe next year will be the year for fantasy

Am quite looking forward to this next wave. If it is the furioso and chibi-hawk I'll be getting both and converting them for my Templars

I think this boosts the odds of a GK book on its why in. Storm Ravens are a greyknight vehicle, much more then the Blood Angles. And, if there wasn't some other army that could use coming soon down the pipe, WHY would they tell use this is a Blood Angels Storm Raven?

I always love more BA stuff!

jspyd3rx wrote:I believe GK is going to be a March release.

Would be great if they did the termies in plastic.

Mad4Minis wrote:

jspyd3rx wrote:I believe GK is going to be a March release.

Would be great if they did the termies in plastic.

i'd be absolutely shocked if basic GK and GKT's didn't go plastic.

I thought it was already said that basic GK and GKT's were plastic. Isn't that practically confirmed already?

I'm willing to bet the battleforce will be pretty good. I'm guessing something like:

Baal Predator/ dreadnought
Tactical Squad
Death company
Death company
Sanguinary guard

Or something like that. I'm assumining it will follow the vanilla battleforce recipe:

Tactical
A five man unit
A five man unit
A five man unit
A transport

I'm just hoping that the worst case scenario doesn't happen - that the rumoured new GK codex around Feb/Mar is just that, a rumour and that the Blood Angels get this instead meaning no new GK codex 1st quarter.

When have they ever released a book without model releases?

Read this, and read it very well.
Blood Angels getting a release does not mean Grey Knights are getting no models, nor that Dark Eldar are done getting releases or any other rubbish. Blood Angels getting a release simply means they are getting a release. That is all it means.

I would love a BA battleforce!!

Therion:

You do recall that Fantasy had a pretty big release a few months back - 8th Ed. No sense in releasing a few army books in the months leading up to a new edition. Their next big release was Island of Blood.

Kanluwen wrote:Blood Angels getting a release does not mean Grey Knights are getting no models, nor that Dark Eldar are done getting releases or any other rubbish. Blood Angels getting a release simply means they are getting a release. That is all it means.

Where did anyone say that?

Right above my post, and a thread that was locked in 40k General.

Really? And that required a big red text warning from you?

Man... imagine if more than one person had made an off-hand comment. We'd be looking at giant red bold text!

I'd write in big red text too if I had such a reputation.

johnstewartjohn wrote:

munkeey wrote:YAWN bloodangles dont need anything new give the rest of 40k something new!

What like dark eldar?

Or GK

I'm glad that GW is going in and filling in the blanks for some of the codex entries, I just wish it was for codexes that had been out longer or were in more need of it.

God damn that Storm Raven is a Blight on humanity.

By yeah I hope they redid it.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Really? And that required a big red text warning from you?

Man... imagine if more than one person had made an off-hand comment. We'd be looking at giant red bold text!

Considering there's already another "WTF GW!" thread in 40k General about this topic...

I'd say it's appropriate to put that warning up.

P.S., that was the "giant" text font.


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Oh, and red draws attention to the text, while still making it able to be read without straining your eyes.

It's a simple usage of colors.

Happygrunt wrote:Storm Ravens are a greyknight vehicle, much more then the Blood Angles.

Can someone explain to me why this is? I've seen it mentioned quite a bit that GKs will probably get the Storm Raven, but (aside from basic GW strategy) is there any fluff reason for this? Is it in the BA codex that the GKs use it?

Sarrazon wrote:

Happygrunt wrote:Storm Ravens are a greyknight vehicle, much more then the Blood Angles.

Can someone explain to me why this is? I've seen it mentioned quite a bit that GKs will probably get the Storm Raven, but (aside from basic GW strategy) is there any fluff reason for this? Is it in the BA codex that the GKs use it?

BA codex, page 38 Stormraven.
Said to be a less known, maybe nearly forgotten STC, used by GK. So its basically inserted into the tech history of the IoM by M.W.

Repeat after me: retcon, solves all your problems.

BrookM wrote:Repeat after me: retcon, solves all your problems.

I dont think you retcon things that were released only months before. You do it to old things that nobody cared about anyway. Like Squats!

And every Marine Codex from now on will get it too...

H.B.M.C. wrote:And every Marine Codex from now on will get it too...

I dont think they will. It would seem silly. But, then again, ALL the last codex releases from Guard on had some sort of Airborne unit, like a bomber, fighter, gunship or harpy.

Happygrunt wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:And every Marine Codex from now on will get it too...

I dont think they will. It would seem silly. But, then again, ALL the last codex releases from Guard on had some sort of Airborne unit, like a bomber, fighter, gunship or harpy.

Oh ho ho, just you wait and see.

Hello guys... Just little cents on some topics raized here:

Space wolves dont need much more... Well, they need a oficial thunderwolf cavalry unit, as everything more is just convertable. I mean, you can bring very nice Rune Priests, Wolf Priests and Wolf Lords with only the Space Wolf pack, and everything more can be mixed with other boxes to do nice things. Hey, but a lot of small other industries are making nice conversion kits for thunder wolfs, and that means more people are buying Space Wolves packs for conversions... They are not worryed about it.

Blood Angels are space marines, and space marines sell a lot. Dreadnoughts sell a lot more. If they have more Dread Kits, they will just sell more, no worryes about that.

If stormraven will come for GK, i hope they come with extra bits for adornation. That plain flying box dont look "Inquisitive"

The codex after Necrons will be Black Templars, at least that is my bet, but hell, i wish it was some xeno scum...

Space wolves don't need much more, maybe just a few updates on some of the older dated models but other than that everything is catered for in the Space Wolves Tac Box.

Blood Angels are Space Marines, but they are also a very popular and well used army in their own right. The old 2nd edition was Blood Angels and Orks and they've been at the forefront ever since. So there is definately scope to fill in some of the gaps in the codex especially as the units deserve to have their own models. Plus it's a perfect opportunity to show what they can do after the other fantastic BA releases (SG,DC).

I think the Stormraven will be a valid choice for the GK, maybe with extras being released in an upgrade pack or something along those lines. No point in releasing a seperate model that big with just a few extra bits on. Plus with the BA sense of aestetics, there might be the option to add some fancy bits and pieces to the Stormraven!

And the codex after Necrons (if indeed it IS Necrons) will definately NOT be Black Templars, just not going to happen.

All I want is a Nids sprue with boneswords and lash whips. Also an official Mycetic Spore would be nice.

On the topic of space wolves.

As a space wolves player, I would really like thunderwolf models, and I want the kit to be like the SW pack, with all the different CCWs. And I want the marines on them to have capes. A wolf priest/rune priest kit would be cool, like the chaplain/librarian kit rumored to be in the works. And then fenrisian wolves with cyberwolf upgrades.

So thats..

TWC kit
Wolf kit
Wolf priest/rune priest kit

As for blood angels...

I think a plastic furioso/librarian dreadnought kit would be good so its consistent to the rest of the BA line of plastics.
Stormraven is a no brainer.

Those are the two I see off the top of my head for having a fully supported BAs codex.

I'd like to see a Sanguinary Priest in Terminator armour. We have Librarians and Chaplains, so why not Apothecaries?

Yep got my e-mail alert from them today! And to my surprise is was talking about more BA's releases! Cant wait for february!

Decent of Angels

"The Blood Angels are one of the most popular Space Marine Chapters. They fought at the Emperor's side during the earliest days of the Imperium as one of the original Legions. Ten thousand years later, and one of the longest-running Chapters, they are still shaped by the deeds of their Primarch Sanguinius. Few Space Marine Chapters are as prolific and loyal in their defense of the Imperium as the Blood Angels, though a flaw in their gene seed makes them susceptible to the Black Rage and the Red Thirst -all- consuming curses that turn them blood thirsty in battle...

In February 2011, the Blood Angels will receive more reinforcements, including never before seen models - visit the website tomorrow for more information from the Studio in their Incoming! article."

--I look foward to getting up for work at 4:45am tommorow, specifically and only for this reason! --For now though, I must go return to studying for my Microbiology test. :(

Woohoo!

haha im expecting an message like the one for the new skaven stuff including a video of blood angels slowly appearing out of darkness and then a giant wall of text saying BLOOD ANGELS FEBRUARY!!!!

If you take the giant stupid fins and the top turret off the Stormraven, it actually looks three times better, easily. Less like it's made by Tonka, anyway.

Don't act surprised, you all saw this coming.

Honoured throughout the Imperium, the Blood Angels are the red-armoured avengers, a physical manifestation of the Emperor's justice, and the progeny of one of his most trusted sons, the Primarch Sanguinius.

Whilst the Blood Angels are still considered a Codex Chapter, they have deviated from the tenets of the Codex Astartes through pure need. The Blood Angels are a dying Chapter, for theirs is a gene-seed with a terrible flaw. As well as gifting the aspirant Blood Angels with a Space Marine's superhuman strength and biological enhancements, it also makes them susceptible to a dread bloodlust known as the Red Thirst, against which they must always battle to resist. And then there is the Black Rage, a psychic memory of Sanguinus' last moments that propels the afflicted Space Marine into a state of fury from which he can never recover. Those touched by the Black Rage form the Death Company, their only fate to die in glorious combat.

The Blood Angels can bring a multitude of devastating warriors and vehicles to the battlefield, for they are red-armoured angels incarnate, ranking amongst the greatest heroes of the Imperium. There are the angelically winged Sanguinary Guard, psychically talented Dreadnought Librarians and the much-feared Baal Predator. But it is in the tumult of close assault where the Blood Angels excel, their Assault Squads heading the charge.

This February the Chapter armouries of the Blood Angels and their Successors will be bolstered by some new plastic kits as the Blood Angels' battle against the enemies of the Emperor continues. If you want to begin readying your strike force now, here are a selection of core Blood Angels and Space Marine kits you can use to start or expand your collection.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=12500088a&utm_source=VoxCaster&utm_medium=twitter&utm_term=new-article&utm_content=new-article&utm_campaign=VoxCaster-New-Articles

Ok, so now they've updated their website to tell us... nothing new. This is not at all surprising...

Like I said, no surprise there.

So glad they shed light on the upcoming releases........

btw we have some old space marines for you to buy while you wait to buy our new stuff.

/sigh

What were people really expecting, the stuff's not coming till February, they'll post it at the end of the January. That's just how they do things now.

So is that the new plastic dred in the picture?

Gargskull wrote:What were people really expecting, the stuff's not coming till February, they'll post it at the end of the January. That's just how they do things now.

What did we expect? Well...

"...visit the website tomorrow for more information from the Studio in their Incoming! article."

Maybe an 'Incoming!' article with more information. Not just an 'Incoming!' article that shows nothing and advertises their existing products.

So, to summarise:

First: GW Newsletter - We're got some great new models coming out! We're not going to say what they are or preview them at all here, but hit the website tomorrow to find out more!
Next: GW Website - We've got some great new models coming out. We're not going to show them to you... but trust us, they're awesome. In the meantime, here's a bunch'a links to stuff we already sell.
Conclusion: We know something you don't know and we're not gonna tell!!!

Newletter and website FAIL.

Go on. I want to see Kan defend this simply breathtaking marketing strategy.

Gargskull wrote:What were people really expecting,

"The cat's out of the bag, so there's not much point hiding it: here's some nice photos of the Stormraven and Furioso Dreadnought we're releasing in February!"

Games Workshop doesn't adapt, it sticks rigidly to it's plans no matter what happens.

Just went to GW website....what the hell kinda "Incoming: Blood Angels" article was that. Doesnt mention anyhting except that they are coming out in february with new plasitc kits. What a disappointment, I wanted to at least hear whats on the way.

I would have to imagine though that they will release the stormraven, and what better time to release a plastic dreadnought bit specifically for the blood angels....perhaps it could even have DC and Librarian pieces to make 3 different kinds. Lets hope!

Element206 wrote:I would have to imagine though that they will release the stormraven, and what better time to release a plastic dreadnought bit specifically for the blood angels....perhaps it could even have DC and Librarian pieces to make 3 different kinds. Lets hope!

Frgt/10 over at Warseer has said that it will have Librarian pieces. No mention was made of any specific DCD pieces.

Personally I want a Furioso plastic kit so I can get back onto my conversion job trying to build the characters from dow2

ivangterrace
Post 2010/11/21 23:59:54 Subject: Re:Blood Angels releases in Feb/11 - GW will tell us Monday...
On the topic of space wolves.

As a space wolves player, I would really like thunderwolf models, and I want the kit to be like the SW pack, with all the different CCWs. And I want the marines on them to have capes. A wolf priest/rune priest kit would be cool, like the chaplain/librarian kit rumored to be in the works. And then fenrisian wolves with cyberwolf upgrades.

So thats..

TWC kit
Wolf kit
Wolf priest/rune priest kit

As for blood angels...

I think a plastic furioso/librarian dreadnought kit would be good so its consistent to the rest of the BA line of plastics.
Stormraven is a no brainer.

Those are the two I see off the top of my head for having a fully supported BAs codex.

Wolf priests and rune priests kits? Why? They are inside the regular pack (you know, the different torso and legs, with the big cape and the different "old guys" heads), if you really need something more, took the plastic upgrade sprue GW sell and put it together with the pack box, with those bits you will have a nice wolf priest/rune priest/wolf lord in seconds... And you have tons of other bits from tons of other boxes, as Space Wolves are Space Marines...

Take a look on what you get from a Space Marine Captain box: some arms with diferent weapons, two torsos with insignias, a cape, a nice back back, a standard and a lot of small bits to personalize it... all that for U$ 15.

Now, look at the wolf pack: you got the same thing, and 9 more puppies, with enough weapons for them all for U$ 10 more...
And when you buy the wolf pack you got a lot of extra bit that you will not really use, and that you can just mix with all other space marine range: scouts, devastators, assault squads, blood angels, rhinos, dreads...

The wolf pack is one of the most complete boxes GW have to sell, the only failure of it is the total lack of Meltas and Flamers (why the wolfs needed so much plasma?)

But i agree with you, there should be a oficial Thunder Wolf Cavalry, and i would accept very well a upgrade sprue for it...
Maxmini released a kit for it, but it is pricey and dont look so fierce...

Sry for the out of topic, i just wanted to help but extended myself a bit...

AlexHolker wrote:

Element206 wrote:I would have to imagine though that they will release the stormraven, and what better time to release a plastic dreadnought bit specifically for the blood angels....perhaps it could even have DC and Librarian pieces to make 3 different kinds. Lets hope!

Frgt/10 over at Warseer has said that it will have Librarian pieces. No mention was made of any specific DCD pieces.

Sweet!

Am I the only one who thinks the stormraven is really ugly...

Haha... no.

Chibi-hawk is awesome but haters gonna hate

Let's keep the discussion of its aesthetics out of this thread. I think the mildest way to put it without too much opinion...

GW's Storm Raven has an aesthetic quality that has proportions, detail placement, and detail design choices that are inconsistent with the established range. For good or bad, it tends not to meet the expectations of those wanting to see the Storm Raven more closely match the aesthetic and "balance" of existing Imperial aircraft.

They took a risk, some would say they failed, others would say its "cool." The unfortunate reality is that as a piece of mass produced "art" without an overwhelmingly positive reception, even with a positive artistic review, its less of a "great financial success," as I'm sure GW would hope it will be.

H.B.M.C. wrote:
So, to summarise:

First: GW Newsletter - We're got some great new models coming out! We're not going to say what they are or preview them at all here, but hit the website tomorrow to find out more!
Next: GW Website - We've got some great new models coming out. We're not going to show them to you... but trust us, they're awesome. In the meantime, here's a bunch'a links to stuff we already sell.
Conclusion: We know something you don't know and we're not gonna tell!!!

Newletter and website FAIL.

Go on. I want to see <zomg name censored for the inquisition> defend this simply breathtaking marketing strategy.

*GW apologist mode on:
-As if HBMC! we all know GW hire all the best marketing team + psychologist , how can we even attempt to fathom their strategy?
-Boohoo children now days have no patience. Just settle down for their next announcement.

GW apologist mode off:
i cant do this anymore with a straight face , i so agree with you HBMC

aka_mythos wrote:Let's keep the discussion of its aesthetics out of this thread. I think the mildest way to put it without too much opinion...

GW's Storm Raven has an aesthetic quality that has proportions, detail placement, and detail design choices that are inconsistent with the established range. For good or bad, it tends not to meet the expectations of those wanting to see the Storm Raven more closely match the aesthetic and "balance" of existing Imperial aircraft.

They took a risk, some would say they failed, others would say its "cool." The unfortunate reality is that as a piece of mass produced "art" without an overwhelmingly positive reception, even with a positive artistic review, its less of a "great financial success," as I'm sure GW would hope it will be.

Lets try to keep in perspective that we are basing this entire argument/thesis of aethetics and detail of the new stormraven kit off of a SINGLE leaked photo of the model. Personally I think the angle of the model in the photograph does no justice for it. When you consider the dimensions and style of Space Marine vehicles in general, I find the stormraven kit to have a certain aspect/quality that accurately ties it into the range between a land speeder and thunderhawk. While another replication of the valkyrie might appeal to some, it would not possess the structural subtleties which would assimilate the model into the Space Marine vehicle line-up. Its bulky, brutish, and borders on physically improbable in the realm of aviation....but I think it will find its place well in BA lists, and with more pictures to come, should change a few minds.

I was disappointed by that GW article. :sadface:

Lately, seems like Games Workshop likes to generate a crap-ton of buzz, for almost no pay-off... I was thinking this Blood Angels thing would be cooler, too...

The "news" is up on the GW site at:

This February the Chapter armouries of the Blood Angels and their Successors will be bolstered by some new plastic kits as the Blood Angels' battle against the enemies of the Emperor continues. If you want to begin readying your strike force now, here are a selection of core Blood Angels and Space Marine kits you can use to start or expand your collection.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=12500088a

ummm where is the news of new models???

Just takes you to a blood angels page with models already released....

Weak.

Are you effing serious???

That is beyond BS... announcing big news tune in tomorrow and then announcing NOTHING beyond what was already said in the announcement is effing horrible marketing. Honestly this can achieve absolutely nothing but pissing people off.

Hey there is big news! Actually no there isn't, bet you feel stupid now ha ha! Buy our stuff!!

This pisses me off to no end. Yes it was just a small announcement even if they did reveal new mini's, but the totally unnecessary bait and switch with announcement and all is just crap. Screw you too GW.

Queue the apologists running in with their 'oh you should just be grateful they release anything at all!' and 'They don't have to tell you anything'.

What news? It tells us exactly nothing about the Blood Angels. Neat Skaven though.

That is beyond BS... announcing big news tune in tomorrow and then announcing NOTHING beyond what was already said in the announcement

That is now, at least for a while, SOP from GW. It's exactly what they did in the last couple "big" announcements. :(

me - disapoint

article is a mega fail, and as for the storm-raven, I just think it's a lazy ass way to make a poor model. To me it looks like someone somewhere said, lets make a cool model of the stormraven that got all the cool bits of current models.. right, front of a thuinderhawk - check, wing tips from the valk - check, funky little turret -check, WWII tail - check, glues, saw check, hey presto a model!

It looks awful to me. Does anyone know if it looks any better in real life? and as for those weapons, they look like smaller versions of the current model bits, and then some cut in half to squeeze them into the kit for the sake of it. I was expecting something a bit more impressive and better thought out myself. And the rear of it to me screams out 'let's leave a convienant space for forgeworld to tinker with to add dreadnaught harness etc'. I just think it's a pure money grabber. I've seen so many conversions for this model on here, some pretty poor attempts, yet the thought and ideas behind them put GW to shame.

it seems like the most ambiguous 'Incoming!' news from GW ever. Its like they dug into their archives for the article from march of 2010 and added a small paragraph about non specific models to be released in february 2011....sigh, disappointment

Nothing......

boo hiss. I love the skaven though. I hope it's a dread with blood talons, maybe a sprue with lasplas and tl Asscannons for razorbacks. And while I don't use any some termies would be nice.

Dear GW:

Go yourself!

Furioso and Stormraven are pretty much a sure thing at this point, so my questions are:
1) What other models are released in Feb. 2011?
2) Does the Furioso model come with variant options like Blood Talons or possibly even Librarian type bits too?

Acardia wrote:boo hiss. I love the skaven though. I hope it's a dread with blood talons, maybe a sprue with lasplas and tl Asscannons for razorbacks. And while I don't use any some termies would be nice.

Ive heard rumors, but its all speculation unfortunately. It might have Lib parts. Apparently since GW already dropped their ground-breaking news on us today, we still wont know for now. yep, GW sure gave us all colonoscopy's today!

MajorTom11 wrote:Are you effing serious???

That is beyond BS... announcing big news tune in tomorrow and then announcing NOTHING beyond what was already said in the announcement is effing horrible marketing. Honestly this can achieve absolutely nothing but pissing people off.

Hey there is big news! Actually no there isn't, bet you feel stupid now ha ha! Buy our stuff!!

This pisses me off to no end. Yes it was just a small announcement even if they did reveal new mini's, but the totally unnecessary bait and switch with announcement and all is just crap. Screw you too GW.

Queue the apologists running in with their 'oh you should just be grateful they release anything at all!' and 'They don't have to tell you anything'.

Not gonna lie, feeling the same here. I'm slightly shamed to admit it, but it does annoy me quite a bit. I may just have emailed them to that effect... Oh well, nevermind.

Element206 wrote:Lets try to keep in perspective that we are basing this entire argument/thesis of aethetics and detail of the new stormraven kit off of a SINGLE leaked photo of the model.Personally I think the angle of the model in the photograph does no justice for it.

A single leaked photo, that some GW photographer thought was the best angle. Now maybe they shouldn't be taking the pictures any more, but its a leak from an article meant to generate hype, you'd expect it to be the best. So maybe, just maybe the model isn't a failure, but some one failed here. I've said that its success all hinges on the back side of it that I'm waiting till its shown to make my final decision. I think its just understood, that my opinion and the opinion of other is based on a single view; that as a matter of short hand we shouldn't be expected to preface each and every post with "based on what we've seen" or "given that angle." This discussion has gone on long enough some things are just understood.

Element206 wrote: When you consider the dimensions and style of Space Marine vehicles in general, I find the stormraven kit to have a certain aspect/quality that accurately ties it into the range between a land speeder and thunderhawk.

Other than the angles on the tails and wings and the wierd intake on top there aren't any other detail to tie it into a Landspeeder. The Thunderhak comparison is limited to thing having a door on the front and maybe the forward slope of that door. The cockpit, and turret and weapon mounts aren't in line with established aesthetics of either aircraft. The wings are this strange blend of landspeeder and valkyrie that end up too high up to do what they appear "to do". The wings are so high up off the ground that it appears the landing gear was completely an afterthought. The balance is off, the placement of the wings and engines imply that what's carried at the rear is heavier than the front half; that a dreadnought is somehow heavier than this big bulky transport section, doesn't make sense.

If you were to sub-divide the components, there is nothing wrong with them individually, but together they are less than the sum of their parts. There are already a good number of modified versions of the picture floating around showing how it could have been done without making it look like the Valkyrie.

On the other side of this I think its has some positive qualities. I think the basic angles of the front half do a good job of conveying its function while tying it into the different landraider models as a heavy transport. The engines look nice and bulky and their housings I think convey a better sense of "marine" than even the thunderhawks do... though their location over the wings looks odd.

The point of my previous post was to summarize all the discussion that's occured on this, in as neutral language as possible. I really didn't want to open up the can of worms again.

Yeah, these "no announcement" announcements are already quite tiresome. I don't usually criticize their marketing techniques, it's a business after all, but this borders on being a bit dishonest. Customers don't like being misled. If you have something to announce, great, then do so. If you don't, then hold your teasers till you actually plan on fulfilling your promise to actually announce something as stated in the teasers.

I, a OP, apologise.
Its my fault to even recognize them when I should have ignored them.

Edited OP to cease interest.

My friend likens it to a pug, some would like it and go "d'awwwwww" while others would avert their gaze in disgust.

At least you can all actually find the 'incoming' article - I feel like a bigger doofus than the person who thought the way they've done this is a good idea.

Can anyone tell me where this thrilling article can be located?

there was no update.... usually they say at least something! what was that! it was a sickening way to show us what we can already get!!!!!! I know what we can already get! why can't you show us something new, and if you can't then DON"T TELL US YOU CAN!

this is really annoying! Really really annoying, it isn't even about if the models are any good at this point, just the fact that they tease us in this way then give us this description of the codex and a list of products we "should" buy, it just gah, i can read the codex for that! not waste my time with a newsletter that brings my hopes up only to crush them!!


gah, sorry for my rant, reading that really got to my nerves.

@ColdSadHungry

It's in the what's New Today section.

Here is the link to the American "story".

Linky

So none of that stuff on that website is new?

<<Out of the loop.>

Correct.

The Gamesday fig ( Skaven ) could count as new.

I noticed that GW put up some type of 360 deg view of a model to be released....I cant capture it on my work computer. Can someone tell me what it is?

^^^ Try linking to it and we might know what you're talking about.
EDIT: It's this year's Games Day mini, says so right in the blog post: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=14300016a


I think GW runs on nerd tears.

Ok, sent an email to the GW customer service email detailing how unhappy I was with that tease of an "announcement" .... I also linked to this forum page to show your "reactions" as well...

ajefferism wrote:Ok, sent an email to the GW customer service email detailing how unhappy I was with that tease of an "announcement" .... I also linked to this forum page to show your "reactions" as well...

Good... although I think it will quickly be filed in the customer support folder/recycle bin lol

MajorTom11 wrote:

ajefferism wrote:Ok, sent an email to the GW customer service email detailing how unhappy I was with that tease of an "announcement" .... I also linked to this forum page to show your "reactions" as well...

Good... although I think it will quickly be filed in the customer support folder/recycle bin lol

You never, ever, ever email GW Customer Service "about how unhappy I am with <insert qualm here>". Especially not something like this.

You call them, or write a letter. They take those complaints far more seriously, because any idiot can write an angry email in a moment of disappointment.

Writing a letter shows "commitment" and more interest in what's going on.

Thaanos wrote:Why not something new, such as a new Inquisition

well, apparently GK will be coming out feb/march time, along with the SR, so...add it up... new BA= stormraven. stormraven = GK.

@ Kronk

Thanks for the link - never would have found that! Guess I'm just not thorough enough with my searches!

Complete and utter horsegak. I think a few of the GW marketing folks deserve a good flogging for turning supposed news into another piss-poor attempt to shove more current range advertising down our throats.

Commander Endova wrote:Complete and utter horsegak. I think a few of the GW marketing folks deserve a good flogging for turning supposed news into another piss-poor attempt to shove more current range advertising down our throats.

Bingo. It doesn't help that there's no reliable way to show that it's working/not working outside of buying or not buying the products later on.

So after patiently waiting for word of new BA models I clicked on the GW link at all it said was, "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine." Ovaltine? WTF?

ubermosher wrote:So after patiently waiting for word of new BA models I clicked on the GW link at all it said was, "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine." Ovaltine? WTF?

Win.

Brother SRM wrote:I think GW runs on nerd tears.

Well at least that made me chuckle - the announcement itself was a joke, but not the good kind.

if you're not happy with this, email GW customer service and complain. while tom is right that a small handful of emails may get binned, if they recieve enough then it might actually get brought up at the next meeting.

custserv@games-workshop.com

Do not bloody email them. It will "not get brought up at the next meeting", as the Customer Service email address bins anything that isn't directly related to an issue with an order or models you've purchased.

I do so love it when you tell everyone what they can and cannot do.

And I do so love it when you fail to realize I'm trying to give people advice that will result in an actual...you know, result.
Rather than just an automated reply or a form letter about how "your opinion matters to us".

If you want your voice heard, don't clog up the Customer Service email address with a falsely titled email about your "order missing parts" then launch into a tirade about how this newsletter ate your baby or whatever overlydramatic way you want to express your disappointment over this content. It'll result in the email getting binned, and likely them just putting your email address in their spamfilter.

You want to show them you're upset? Compose a bloody letter. Use a postage stamp, an envelope, and your words.
Handwritten letters mailed in get even more attention than just typing out a letter and mailing it off.

Kanluwen wrote:Do not bloody email them. It will "not get brought up at the next meeting", as the Customer Service email address bins anything that isn't directly related to an issue with an order or models you've purchased.

Just for that, I'm emailing them.

This is the second time in as many months they pulled this stunt. It's ridiculous, show one fething model at least. Hell, even like a silhouette of a model or something, anything but "Gotcha! Come back in Feb but buy this now!"

It is a little frustrating.....but what does everyone expect when they have seen it all before?

Fgt/10 confirmed Furioso, Storm Raven and Battleforce, with Furioso having all options including Librarian.

And he finds the following battleforce contents "plausible":
10 Tactical Marines, 5 Assault, 5 Deathwing, 1 Rhino.

Deathwing or Deathcompany?

Aw, hell, those crunchies all taste the same

Clearly Deathwing.

We got some Angels of Death 2nd edition action boyz!!

Safe to say "Death Company".

Kroothawk wrote:Fgt/10 confirmed Furioso, Storm Raven and Battleforce, with Furioso having all options including Librarian.

And he finds the following battleforce contents "plausible":
10 Tactical Marines, 5 Assault, 5 Deathwing, 1 Rhino.

Pretty lame to through tatical in a BA set IMO. 10 ASSault, 5 DC, 1 Rhino 5 scouts or tatical better, heck even a dread would be better.

Kroothawk wrote:Fgt/10 confirmed Furioso, Storm Raven and Battleforce, with Furioso having all options including Librarian.

And he finds the following battleforce contents "plausible":
10 Tactical Marines, 5 Assault, 5 Deathwing, 1 Rhino.

Might buy that. Looks like a good buy for $90. And that dread kit will be sweet.

I'm never going to see a tyrannofex model.

Ozymandias wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Do not bloody email them. It will "not get brought up at the next meeting", as the Customer Service email address bins anything that isn't directly related to an issue with an order or models you've purchased.

Just for that, I'm emailing them.

This is the second time in as many months they pulled this stunt. It's ridiculous, show one fething model at least. Hell, even like a silhouette of a model or something, anything but "Gotcha! Come back in Feb but buy this now!"

You've obviously never heard of "teasers" as they relate to advertising for upcoming releases.

Does it really take a rocket scientist to look at the current few holes in the BA range and deduce that the 2nd wave will be Storm Raven,Librarian/Furioso Dreadnaught,and a Battleforce? What else is there in that range that's lacking kits? Are they going to slide plastic Thunderwolf Cavalry or a Tervigon/Tyrannofex kit in the Blood Angels 2nd wave? People get mad when GW tells us nothing,so they tell us something the equivalent of a quarter in advance,and we're suppossed to be PO'd because they didn't completely spell what was being released out for us?

Personally,I'm excited for the news. Not so much because it's another BA release,but because it's essentially a BA 2nd Wave/GK presale release with the Storm Raven and Libby Dread.

Whatever1 wrote:

Ozymandias wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Do not bloody email them. It will "not get brought up at the next meeting", as the Customer Service email address bins anything that isn't directly related to an issue with an order or models you've purchased.

Just for that, I'm emailing them.

This is the second time in as many months they pulled this stunt. It's ridiculous, show one fething model at least. Hell, even like a silhouette of a model or something, anything but "Gotcha! Come back in Feb but buy this now!"

You've obviously never heard of "teasers" as they relate to advertising for upcoming releases.

Does it really take a rocket scientist to look at the current few holes in the BA range and deduce that the 2nd wave will be Storm Raven,Librarian/Furioso Dreadnaught,and a Battleforce? What else is there in that range that's lacking kits? Are they going to slide plastic Thunderwolf Cavalry or a Tervigon/Tyrannofex kit in the Blood Angels 2nd wave? People get mad when GW tells us nothing,so they tell us something the equivalent of a quarter in advance,and we're suppossed to be PO'd because they didn't completely spell what was being released out for us?

Personally,I'm excited for the news. Not so much because it's another BA release,but because it's essentially a BA 2nd Wave/GK presale release with the Storm Raven and Libby Dread.

You are missing the point. To be a teaser, you have to see something. They said that they were going to announce stuff, and all it did was go to a page with current models.

Am I the only one who thinks that Stormraven model could've been MUCH cooler? Seems like a C+ job to me.

Kanluwen wrote:Do not bloody email them. It will "not get brought up at the next meeting", as the Customer Service email address bins anything that isn't directly related to an issue with an order or models you've purchased.

dude, do you work at GW customer service part time that you're *SO* worried about a few emails complaining about this or are you just that desperate to save their percieved honor that you'll apologize/defend them to the extend that you'll actively encourage people to not email them with their complaints? no one will write an actual letter as people in 2010 are simply too lazy. we'd be lucky if a few people even bothered to click the email link i provided even before your faux british admonishment not to.

Kroothawk wrote:Fgt/10 confirmed Furioso, Storm Raven and Battleforce, with Furioso having all options including Librarian.

And he finds the following battleforce contents "plausible":
10 Tactical Marines, 5 Assault, 5 Deathwing, 1 Rhino.

What a piece of gak battleforce......Here's a space marine battleforce, but you can have these death company guys instead of the scouts and the random marines....


I understand that the bits are nice...But really? They couldn't even give you a baal predator instead of a rhino?

Whatever1 wrote:You've obviously never heard of "teasers" as they relate to advertising for upcoming releases.

We got a teaser – the newsletter. That newsletter told us to await the announcement tomorrow for more details. The ‘more details’ was a regurgitation of the teaser, and advertising for existing products. If you cannot see why people might be annoyed at that, then you’re not thinking clearly and/or you don’t understand what teasers are.

Whatever1 wrote:Does it really take a rocket scientist to look at the current few holes in the BA range and deduce that the 2nd wave will be Storm Raven,Librarian/Furioso Dreadnaught,and a Battleforce?

Irrelevant. They sent a teaser saying that there’d be an announcement... and then provided no announcement. What we can figure out via rumour and intelligent guessing is completely separate to that.

Whatever1 wrote:... but because it's essentially a BA 2nd Wave/GK presale release with the Storm Raven and Libby Dread.

Except we don’t know that it’s that. I mean, sure, we can make a virtually undeniable educated guess that it will be those items, but we still don’t actually know. This was (another) piss-poor attempt by GW to generate interest in new products without actually showing or telling us what those new products are.

They fail at marketing. They fail every day.

Commander Endova wrote:Complete and utter horsegak. I think a few of the GW marketing folks deserve a good flogging for turning supposed news into another piss-poor attempt to shove more current range advertising down our throats.

At least they didn't do a crappy animation of a bunch of Blood Angels helmet lenses appearing on a dark screen, all set to some suitably gothic music...

But, yeah, I'll go with the other posters here. Really a poor job of advertising. Note to GW's advertising team: Contrary to conventional wisdom, not ALL attention is good attention. Gaming geeks are probably right up there with with comics geeks about getting ticked when companies try to pull overly cute "tricks". That said, I almost wish I had that advertising account since GW seems to be able to generate sales no matter how ineptly they try to advertise to their loyal customers.

Ugh...

Valete,

JohnS

Whatever1 wrote:You've obviously never heard of "teasers" as they relate to advertising for upcoming releases.

obviously you never did. what they sent out over the weekend was a teaser. today was supposed to be actual news.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:And he finds the following battleforce contents "plausible":
10 Tactical Marines, 5 Assault, 5 Deathwing, 1 Rhino.

What a piece of gak battleforce......Here's a space marine battleforce, but you can have these death company guys instead of the scouts and the random marines....

I understand that the bits are nice...But really? They couldn't even give you a baal predator instead of a rhino?

I agree: it's the same value as the Space Wolf one (if you ignore that nobody ever pays 20 pounds for a Rhino), but it's only 21 models. The Eldar one has 18, but that's got a walker and an MBT in it.

warboss wrote:

Whatever1 wrote:You've obviously never heard of "teasers" as they relate to advertising for upcoming releases.

obviously you never did. what they sent out over the weekend was a teaser. today was supposed to be actual news.

BA 2nd wave in Febuary isn't news? Just because it isn't as much news as you would like doesn't mean it isn't news.

Whatever1 wrote:

warboss wrote:

Whatever1 wrote:You've obviously never heard of "teasers" as they relate to advertising for upcoming releases.

obviously you never did. what they sent out over the weekend was a teaser. today was supposed to be actual news.

BA 2nd wave in Febuary isn't news? Just because it isn't as much news as you would like doesn't mean it isn't news.

Not really no , when you put the completed stormraven pic together with " they'll need to release it sometimes right?"

It doesnt take much to figure it out.

Whatever1 wrote:

warboss wrote:

Whatever1 wrote:You've obviously never heard of "teasers" as they relate to advertising for upcoming releases.

obviously you never did. what they sent out over the weekend was a teaser. today was supposed to be actual news.

BA 2nd wave in Febuary isn't news? Just because it isn't as much news as you would like doesn't mean it isn't news.

Are you oxygen deprived? Sending out the email saying 'TUNE IN TOMORROW FOR HUGE BA 2nd WAVE NEWS' was the teaser. The 'news' was given right then in the email. No need to say there was more big stuff coming up the next day. Today's news update was supposed to be the 'trailer'. Instead they gave us the EXACT same info as the teaser. Don't be thick, you know bloody well what people are upset about, it makes COMPLETE sense where the screw up was, why we didn't like it, and why it was a misleading email. God it drives me nuts when GW apologists pull the 'be happy they did anything at all' card... which by the way I called as upcoming on page one of this thread.

Whatever1, you are entitled to be happy with the news yourself, no problem. But stop making totally biased and frankly factually incorrect arguments as to why nearly everyone else (including Kanluwen even!) who thinks it was a piss poor move are somehow being irrational. This is about as black and white a GW case as there ever was. Teaser sent + everyone gets excited + news is non-existent and transparent attempt to re-advertise current offerings for xmas = they straight up misled us.

Could it be a @#$% up between production and marketing?

Marketing was all set for the big preview but the models/photos weren't ready?

Or maybe they're just yanking our chains like the pavlovian dogs we are.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Could it be a @#$% up between production and marketing?

Marketing was all set for the big preview but the models/photos weren't ready?

One photo, at least, is ready: they posted it once by mistake.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Could it be a @#$% up between production and marketing?

Marketing was all set for the big preview but the models/photos weren't ready?

Or maybe they're just yanking our chains like the pavlovian dogs we are.

I would be inclined to believe that if they didn't do the exact same thing last month with the new Skaven coming out in January.

Newsletter: New Skaven are coming in January! Check out the website tomorrow for more information!
Website: New Skaven are coming in January! Here's a bunch of pictures of our old Skaven that you can buy right now!

AlexHolker wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Could it be a @#$% up between production and marketing?

Marketing was all set for the big preview but the models/photos weren't ready?

One photo, at least, is ready: they posted it once by mistake.

And didn't that go splendedly? The only positive comments in that thread were for a 5 minute photoshop job.

Just out of curiousity, is it possible that this announcement was planned to announce the Stormraven and whatever else, but due to the negative reaction to the (perhaps purposefully) leaked model, they yanked it for retooling and stumbled over this announcement?

It's too expensive to 're-tool' a model that's complete, and I really doubt GW cares what we think.

H.B.M.C. wrote:It's too expensive to 're-tool' a model that's complete, and I really doubt GW cares what we think.

It's possible, though. Of course they care what we think; if they find out that the community hates the new model, and that most people are going to scratch build, then who's to say they won't change it? The general reaction to it must be the worst reaction to any GW pre release!

warboss wrote: no one will write an actual letter as people in 2010 are simply too lazy. we'd be lucky if a few people even bothered to click the email link i provided even before your faux british admonishment not to.

dude! we're not all lazy, I wrote Jervis a letter, and got a response! I even got a reply from 'him'. Wasn't a great reply, pretty much said some years they do this, some years they do the other, the years you don't like it tuff, wait for a year you do.

I'm not however saying you would from customer services.... haven't tried that one yet.

Seeing as, really, the only news here is, alas, a distinct lack of news, I'm going to move this to 40K general.

Just out of curiousity, is it possible that this announcement was planned to announce the Stormraven and whatever else, but due to the negative reaction to the (perhaps purposefully) leaked model, they yanked it for retooling and stumbled over this announcement?

No.

And it was an accident as well.

The only "re-tooling" that I could see them doing would be to take another picture from a more flattering angle. Once a mold is made, I am given to understand that is a lot of the production cost for plastic models. They will not change it up now, except to take a different picture.

svendrex wrote:The only "re-tooling" that I could see them doing would be to take another picture from a more flattering angle. Once a mold is made, I am given to understand that is a lot of the production cost for plastic models. They will not change it up now, except to take a different picture.

Plus it'd mean that they would almost certainly "miss" the planned release date which would mean hurting GK sales...

Nah... This is just GW managing to screw up a bunch of things in short order.

Valete,

JohnS

This decision could just be as simple as "If we tell them there will be plastic furioso dreadnoughts coming in February no one will buy our crappy metal ones until then." They can keep us in the dark in the hopes that a few people will still buy the old models right up until they release the new ones.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Or maybe they're just yanking our chains like the pavlovian dogs we are.

At least Pavlov actually fed the dogs, rather than just ringing the bell and kicking them in the face.

Christmas Con...

More shameless misdirection in order to advertise already available kits...

They have no honour...

timetowaste85 wrote:Am I the only person excited for a BA second wave? Haha. Seriously though, this might be the first plastic dreadnaught that I buy, not including the ones that I have from AoBR that I converted-one has the wings of a Lord of Change and a chaos knight lance to be my Librarian Dreadnaught, and one has a couple of claws-one from forgeworld-to be my death company dread.

I'm jazed. Plastic Furiouso!

reds8n wrote:Seeing as, really, the only news here is, alas, a distinct lack of news, I'm going to move this to 40K general.

Just out of curiousity, is it possible that this announcement was planned to announce the Stormraven and whatever else, but due to the negative reaction to the (perhaps purposefully) leaked model, they yanked it for retooling and stumbled over this announcement?

No.

And it was an accident as well.

Far too many "accidents" here to make this palpably beleivable. They are going to do the re-tooling I just know they are.

so the new "wave" of BA is- a furioso.
I was thinking more of stormraven, libby dread, furioso, battleforce, ect.
dissapointed.

Guess my BA army isnt as done as I thought ;( Need new furiosos!

ceorron wrote:They are going to do the re-tooling I just know they are.

Rather than retooling the existing sprues, they could add another sprue. Not that this seems likely, but adding another sprue that extends the hull (and maybe includes some GK-appropriate bits, too) would solve the biggest problem with the model.

reds8n wrote:Seeing as, really, the only news here is, alas, a distinct lack of news, I'm going to move this to 40K general.

Just out of curiousity, is it possible that this announcement was planned to announce the Stormraven and whatever else, but due to the negative reaction to the (perhaps purposefully) leaked model, they yanked it for retooling and stumbled over this announcement?

No.

And it was an accident as well.

Or a really good ad ploy. They new someone would get it and put it on a fan website. Then they could sit back and read its results. The GW spies are among us...

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Could it be a @#$% up between production and marketing?

Yes, since several years

Happygrunt wrote:

reds8n wrote:Seeing as, really, the only news here is, alas, a distinct lack of news, I'm going to move this to 40K general.

Just out of curiousity, is it possible that this announcement was planned to announce the Stormraven and whatever else, but due to the negative reaction to the (perhaps purposefully) leaked model, they yanked it for retooling and stumbled over this announcement?

No.

And it was an accident as well.

Or a really good ad ploy. They new someone would get it and put it on a fan website. Then they could sit back and read its results. The GW spies are among us...

Lets hope they read this site, and NEVER release the craptastic piece of garbage that is that junkraven!

GW WHY!!! we have been good, why the bad vehicle? We have been faithful to the emperor, and have read our primer every night, and sent many prayers to the Emperor and the Omnissiah! This monstrosity must have had influence of the dark forces of the warp!

Damn! Not sure if it's just me with this thought, but that Storm Raven look like one ugly model!

Gw has announced plans for an airborne based mini expansion like planetstrike, so it would make sense that any air units without models would be a bit of a priority. It would be nice If they surprised us all with a nice big harpy model for the nids too , but I think if gk are getting the raven too it makes sense to release first.

From Warseer: Frgt/10 claims the battleforce will have 10 Tacticals, 5 Assault Marines, 5 Death Company and a Rhino.

Hopefully he is completely wrong, because if he's not it's simply an inferior version of the SM battleforce rather than providing something distinctly different.

H.B.M.C. wrote:It's too expensive to 're-tool' a model that's complete, and I really doubt GW cares what we think.

Most everyone on the internet has seen it by now. 'our' reaction was overwhelmingly negative. I'm sure they at least acknowledge that. They have spies everywhere, you know


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AlexHolker wrote:From Warseer: Frgt/10 claims the battleforce will have 10 Tacticals, 5 Assault Marines, 5 Death Company and a Rhino.

Hopefully he is completely wrong, because if he's not it's simply an inferior version of the SM battleforce rather than providing something distinctly different.

Which is what I said a couple pages ago

Samus_aran115 wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:From Warseer: Frgt/10 claims the battleforce will have 10 Tacticals, 5 Assault Marines, 5 Death Company and a Rhino.

Hopefully he is completely wrong, because if he's not it's simply an inferior version of the SM battleforce rather than providing something distinctly different.

Which is what I said a couple pages ago

As did I. That's what I get for not checking further back when discussing the same thing in two different places.

A Blood Angel second wave to put out more guys in power armor posed differently with NEW AND EXCITING SHOULDER PADS meanwhile there's no Mycetic Spore, Tervigon, Tyrannofex, Harpy, Parasite of Mortrex or warrior sized Lash Whips/Bone Swords? Ya know, the codex that came out first and is missing more important and just plain more models?