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Post by: moonshine
Well i'm starting another greenskin army but this time it's the big boyz.
Back in 2005 i had a very badly painted and terribly painted ork army which got lost when i moved house. Not wanting to put the effort in again i started sm but in the early months of 2010 i started bad moonsbut i just could'nt get it right again  . Then in the summer i started a deffskull army in hope i could get in right and the paintjob and modelling was very ameture and when i moved house again the models got broken and wrecked. but now near the end of a terrible year of orks i'm salvaging what i can of the deff skullz and have decided to do another ork army but this time with good moddelling and painting.
here are the first models even though they are goffs in this mob, there will be other clans in other mobs.
anyway what do you guys thing of the painting on these guys, i'm hoping to get lots of comments so tell me what you think
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Post by: FITZZ
Looking pretty good,I like the rust effects alot.
Only "criticism" I could offer would be,since they are supposed to be Goffs,you may want to add some check patterns to the helmets/shoulder pads/weapons,etc ,and the ork on the far left with the big shoota seems a bit "brightly dressed" for a "propah Goff".
Overall nice work,I'll be interested in seeing more.
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Post by: moonshine
FITZZ wrote: Looking pretty good,I like the rust effects alot.
Only "criticism" I could offer would be,since they are supposed to be Goffs,you may want to add some check patterns to the helmets/shoulder pads/weapons,etc ,and the ork on the far left with the big shoota seems a bit "brightly dressed" for a "propah Goff".
Overall nice work,I'll be interested in seeing more.
thanks for the feedback
i agree they are overdressed for goffs maybe they would be better blood axes?
but anyway i'm very pleased with the rust and it was so easy just brown and orrange stippled on  i'll be puting much more rust throughout the army.
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Post by: FITZZ
Blood axes tend to favour a camouflage pattern for their uniforms,I'd say darken up the BS orks trousers,add some black and white checks here and there,and they'll be fine as Goffs.
Of course you could just leave them as is and call them freebooters.
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Post by: moonshine
i might do that with the 9 boyz i salvaged tonight but i can't be bothered to do an all night paint session.
i did consider freeboterz but there will be other clans in the army awell and i'm already thinking up ideas for some flashgitz.
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Post by: FITZZ
I'd suggest using a Nobz box as the foundation for your flashgitz or AoBR Nobz if moneys tight.
After that all you really need to do is "snazz up" the shootas/add bits & barrels to Big shootahs and you'll have some convincing Flashgitz in no time.
Heres a quick example of a converted AoBR Nob.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/26331-.html
NOTE: The mini is not my work.
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Post by: Mr.Awesome1
How did you get that rust effect??? It looks cool
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Post by: moonshine
FITZZ: thanks for the conversion pic but i'm definatly going with the nobz kit because of how fantastic they are. for only £15 theres so much stuff in that box. Theres no rush to do the flash gitz because i'm not going to feild them until gw releases a new ork codex where they get decent rules.
Mr.Awesome1: thanks, next time i do rust effects i'll do a guide. Automatically Appended Next Post: Not much has happened today but i was thinking about the new de vheicles and does anybody else think they would make excellent vehicles for somw flash gitz?
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Post by: moonshine
i finally got round to getting out all of the old orks and seeing which ones i could re-use. along with the first 11 orks i found 9 more to give me a nice even 20  i've done the skin and metals but not the rust. here are the boyz and 4 squigs from the grot kitz
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Post by: moonshine
i got a unit of grots done and the runtherd will be made soon.
Anyway i came up with some ideas for models in the future.
first i was thinking about buying a box of warhammer fantasy black orcs to use as ard boyz and the heads would look good on the nobz but i was wondering if this is too similar to what everyone else is doing ?
secondly i was thinking of using the new de raider as a freebota transport and i'm wondering if it would look good with traks on it ?
finnaly i want to have a unit of madboyz but i'm not sure what rules they could use? my best idea is ork boyz and putting a wierd boy in there.
so what do you guys think ?
here are the grots
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Post by: kaiservonhugal
You really nailed the eyes on those Grots - and I like the extra conversion bits and bases youve doen with them.
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Post by: Mr.Awesome1
Please tell me the use of Grots????
when you do the rust can you do a tut???
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Post by: moonshine
Kaiservonhugal: thanks, the eyes are suprisingly fun to paint and i'm pleased witth how the conversions came out aswell
Hungryp: thanks, i do use goblin green and then a bit of goblin green, bleached bone mix. I only just realised he looked like an evil repentia  i'd like to put an ork in that pose aswell
Mr.Awesome1: there are lots of uses for grots but they'll probably end up as a grot sheild or a tarmac unit. and i will definatly put a tutorial up when i next paint rust
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Post by: moonshine
More salvage work today but i did'nt make much progress because i neeed to walk the dogs and now i can't be bothered to rumage through my old models and my bits box.
what i did do though was build a kustom big shoota. i want to make all the special weapons to look diffrent, after all no two ork inventions should ever look the same.
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Post by: Arakasi
Big Shoota modelling is looking very good - and I too like the grot with the Chainsaw! Are the grotz the last thing you painted? They look like an improvement over the Orks to me.
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Post by: Yggdrasil
Looks promising!!!
I don't even know how people can start multiple armies over a year, as I can't seem to finish a squad per year, but still...
The big shoota wielder looks nice, I love the Ork backpacks!!!
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Post by: moonshine
Arakasi: thanks the grots were the last thing i painted
Yggdrasil: cheers. it's not hard to start multiple armies though i do try not to. i started orks so i could get a break from my death guard. i l.ike the ork backpacks too.
anyway i wanted to show everyone what i did today.
here is my attempt and free hand painting a fist onto the back of the big shoota
i 'm still not sure on how the gun's attached
heres more freehand stuff that i did on the back
so what does everyone think
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Post by: moonshine
Hi everyone
I,ve been busy building 6 Yes 6 of the new killa kanz.
the new kit is great and all the close combat weapons are bad ass and now i'm thinking of building a mob walkers for apocalypse (in the far furuture)
I've armed one squad with grotzookas and the other with two big shootas and a rokkit launcher just because of how cool it looked. i can't wait to paint them and three of them might end up as deffskulz.
heres a group shot of the fist 3
this guy has a kustom grotzooka made from the battlewagon kit and a two shoulder pads
a pretty bog standard job on this guy
this kan is kneeling but i'm not sure if it's visible in the pics. i like how he tuned out especially the drill
another group shot
i love the rokkkitz on this one
this guy was posed to look like he was walking and got hit by a plasma gun or somthing. i want to paint a burn mark on him. does anybody know how?
this big shoota is pretty bog standard posed except he is leaning forward slightly
big shoota one
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Post by: Rose_Mountainz
Mmm killa kanz, some of my favourite models both in gaming and design and orkiness of everything in 40K.
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Post by: moonshine
Rose_Mountainz wrote:Mmm killa kanz, some of my favourite models both in gaming and design and orkiness of everything in 40K.
I agree kanz are one of the best units in the game especially in orkiness
not much of an update but i'm working on a battlewagon that should be finished soon-ish
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Post by: ceorron
Really like the dynamic poses you have on your killa kans.
I especially like the grotzooka conversion from a battlewagon kannon, inspired!
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Post by: Heffling
Nice poses. I'm working on my own set of 9 kans at (6 metal, 3 plastic). For the big shootas, I wanted the option to take rokkits and have a simple swap. What I've done is taken the rokkits from the nobs kombi-shoota, drilled out the barrel of the big shoota, and magnetized it. I then removed the length of bullets going from the ammo container to the gun.
So now if I want rokkits, I just add one to the end of the gun, and the smaller size makes it look like the Kan is shooting mini-rokkits at its target.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Looking good! If you want to paint on a plasma burn, try this: first , a lighter, faded base colour, then a dark brown, then black inside, stippled with metal. Finish it off with black weathering powder if you feel like it.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks for the feedback guys
ceorron: Thanks, its good to hear from someone who has as many orks as you. When I built the kans i was wondering if they were posed well enough I was also wondering if the grotzooka conversin liked a grotzooka thanks for letting me know  .
Heffling: Cheers. good luck with you're kans. I always had a soft spot for the old metal kans but they were a nightmare to build so now with the new plastic kit i'll be able to pose thhem like the old ones.
CommissarKhaine: Thanks for the advise, I'll have to try that it sounds like it will look good.
Not else to say really except the battlewagon is coming along nicely and i'm building the second but i can't decide weather to use the killkanon or not.
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Post by: iior
The kans look great. I like the poses.
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Post by: Yggdrasil
6 Killa Kanz... As in  - 6 Killa Kanz?
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Post by: moonshine
iior: thanks
Yggdrasil: yes 6 as in 6 i can't belive it either!
i got round to painting the batttlewagon ram but i'm wondering if it looks right what does evryone else think ?
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Post by: Arakasi
The teeth are looking a bit clean, which is making the rivet wash look overdone? What does the front say? If its "Waaagh!" - I prefer it with 3 a's... Otherwise the rest of it is looking good
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Post by: monkeytroll
Seems I've missed a few updates lately
Some cool little conversions scattered around, and the improvements in your painting are nicely visible  Some nice poses on the kans.
I agree with Arakasi on the battlewagons teeth, far too clean at the moment. Dirty them up a bit, get a bit of metal showing and that rust will fit in nicely.
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Arakasi: i agree the teeth are too clean i thought that aswell. the writing says wagh, i should have used 3 A's but ill leave it now.
Monkeytroll: cheers and tanks for the advice on getting some metal showing.
I took the advice and got some metal showing on the teeth and here are the results
so what do you think?
i also did a bit of work on the side of it.
I bought a warboss a few days ago and last night i finished the green stuff work on him and then i sprayed him this morning so sorry for how hard it is to see him. i don't have a name for him yet so can somebody think of one for him.
here he is on the pk side
and this is the back. he is wearing a cape but it's not very clear in the pic
and his kombi skorcha side
and an overhead pic that shows the green stuff shoulder pad thing
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Post by: Arakasi
Battlewagon teeth are looking much better - well done. Boss looks good - but you are right - it's hard to make out the detail on the undercoated version. Looking forward to the paint bringing out all of your work.
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Post by: Ink.
heh I didnt think it said waaagh, I thought it said "WAGN"/orky wagon haha... to let everyone know what they are about to be smooshed by..
love the kans!! I was just given one and am going to perhaps add on something then paint it up.
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Post by: moonshine
thanks arakasi ,i was suprised at how wasy it was to get the metalic effect and how good it looked at the end. i can't wait to see it painted either i've done a bit of work on him but nothing worth uploading.
cheers ink. on yours you couldput a grot like mine or a grot from the stompa on it.
anyway i just noticed a black blob on the teeth and does anyone else think it would be worth painting in gloss varnish to make it look like oil?
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Post by: moonshine
Hi everyone i got some more work on the warbioss done but he's not nearly done and i'm realy thinking about removing the shoulder things
I've settled with the name Snikgrim Dakkarut
I'm pleased with the teeth desighn on the iron gob
his cape is clearer now it's painted and i'm really happy with the flame desighn and the head but i might re-do the hair
The kombi skorcha needs some other colour on the casing but apart from that it's done. I don't want to put any rust on the boss to represent the fact he has grots and meks to keep his stuff clean i might do the same with the nobz.
And here he is from the top. He has a medal but i'm not sure if it looks right what do you guys think ?
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Post by: moonshine
Quick update-
I'm working on the warboss but barely anything's done, and i've been trying to assemble some ork boyz.
But more importantly i had an idea for a biker boss conversion.
But he's not really a biker boss more of a mono-wheel boss conversion using the skaven doomwheel. the plan is to put the biker boss in the middle and use a space marine bike or somthing as the seat and stuff.
The only thing i'm want to know is will the boss fit inside?
Also i might put the thing the boss sits on outside of the monowheel, a bit like cout grevious in star wars
What do you guys think of the idea?
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Post by: The Good Green
Sounds like a fun idea for the biker boss. I like how the warboss is coming out. That kombi skorcha looks pretty heavy, tho.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks. the kombi skorcha will have a red casing when it's finished. I should be able to get all the biker boss materials by january.
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Post by: JacobYeah
Nice Models, Keep Going
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks Jacobyeah i neede some inseration
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Post by: monkeytroll
All moving along nicely here I see. The battlewagon looking much better for the wear and tear
Love the sound of the mono-wheel biker, doom wheel should easily hold an ork, have a few similar ideas, but keep veering away from the doom-wheel for some unknown reason (well, probably a sub-concious attempt to avoid spending). I was thinking of some sort of cruciform strapping holding the ork in the middle, roughly based on a character from the old Twisted Metal games on the PS1. Be interesting to see where you go with that idea.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Great looking orks!
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Post by: moonshine
monkeytroll: thanks for the advice on making metal show on the battlewagon. you're idea sounds cool too, and i came up the ide whilst watching star wars 3 and seeing grevious monowheel, the warboss could have his seet on one side and have a dakkagun on the other. i might do a concept of it tonight if i feel like it.
Matt.kingsly: cheers
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Post by: moonshine
on the weekend i got a box of black orcs from whfb and i've converted 2 into ard boys using parts from the ork boys set. they are slightly bigger than regular boys but smaller than nobs which is great because they stand out but are not the size of nobs
here is the first guy who has the mace from the black ork kit
and here is the second guy who has the arm the nob has in the ork boy kit. since taking this picture i added anothe shoulder pad to the choppa arm
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Post by: Scrazza
Really nice stuff here. Might have to 'loot' the warboss Idea. At least, it has given me some good ideas.
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Post by: moonshine
cheers scrazza but i'm what idea he only has a little conversion work on him
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Post by: Scrazza
 Well, I meant his pose. He really looks taunting.
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oh, cheers i was going for a pose like that, i wanted to make him look like he was thinking about what to do next
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Post by: moonshine
I've been working on some fluff for a month now and hopefully when it's all finished i might submit it to black libary. I've submited the first few paragraphs here. What does everybody think?, should i re-write some of it?
Dargot was a dead world. From the endless wastelands of the north to the blazing deserts of the west, scars of battle could be seen. Across the landscape battle lines were drawn and colossal cities had been constructed. Both armies had settled down for a lengthy stay and neither would surrender or back down. The only place that had not been turned into a savage battlefield was the large, black, imposing pyramids in the south west. The planet itself was about thirty two times larger than terra and had five uninhabited moons which were barely noticeable compared to the giant planet. The earth was light brown and the sand was the colour of bone, in the air vast brown clouds drifted across a polluted, yellow sky that blocked out the sun. Hills overlooked the flat land whilst sand dunes formed and were destroyed on a daily bases. On occasions one of the many volcanoes would erupt. Sometimes electric storms would rage overhead and acid rain would pour down and force both races to run into their shelters. Day and night both lasted for 54 hours. Fields that once grew crops now contained rotting plant carcases of the farmers who had once tended to them.
In the east a vast city devoted to the emperor churned out imperial war machines which were sent directly from the city thought the rubble and then deployed to the front line whilst fresh guardsmen were dispatched and obliterated daily. The centre of the city housed regiments of imperial guard and two chapters of space marines whose home worlds were in the same system as Dargot. The impirium was having many victories but the orks remained strong and fought back with great ferocity. Since the start of the war both races sometimes saw the silhouettes of sleek, fast, humanoid figures in the frozen wastelands of the north, thought these were usually ignored because something much more important would happen within hours or even minutes of these sightings. After years of fighting it seemed an uneasy stalemate had been reached as no side could gain a foothold of any new ground and even if they could it would usually be destroyed before a terran week was over.
The west however, the west was different because it was alive and it was alive because it belonged to the orks. A colossal, crude and noisy city took up one tenth of Dargot and that was the only tenth that was truly alive. In the most southern part of the city great mines worked twenty four seven to provide metals too sell to the meks for handful’s of teeth at a time, the meks then worked with the metals and scrap until they had a weapon of some sort, which they would then barter off and trade in a huge market alongside other meks. The customers liked to think they had a good idea of what they were talking about when they asked a mek to build them something so phrases like “I wan it ta be extra killy” and “make sure ya give it more dakka dan wat da ruddy git dere got up da road” and so on. It wasn’t only weapons that the orks traded, fungus beer, squig meet, paint, crude trukks and even grots could be easily bought and competition between stalls was extremely fierce meaning if an ork had a good eye for a bargain he could easily get a great deal on most things and often an ork could be seen pulling a barrel of fungus beer along that he bought for a mere five teeth or a wartrukk on sale for fifty teeth. Each clan would buy different things for different prices and it was common to see a bad moon stall selling top quality squig pie for buckets of teeth whilst the goff stall next to it was selling squig pie with the motto “eat it before it eats you” for a tooth each. Just up the road from the market were mekshops and scrap yards that each sold and built different items. Some mek shops would churn out killa kanz and deff dreads and others would build deffguns for any ork who could afford it and get the parts. Mek shops wouldn’t just build things but repair them aswell and meks would constantly try and convince the customer of his skills by saying things like “good job I fixed dis, ya would’a got a crap job dun if I didn’t do it”.
Near the market and mek shops were the homesteads the orks constructed, they used their houses like humans would and a normal house would be in an apartment like stack of five or six and could have about five orks living in it at one time. The orks cared little for comfort and slept on the floor. Houses would have one or two rooms and contained a place to sit, a place to keep guns and choppas and a table which could be used for gambling or watching grots fight to the death whilst the orks made bets and got drunk. Even though orks would get tired and return home for sleep another ork would have just woken up and because of this the city never slept and was always alive.
Overlooking the millions of ork houses was a large hill that had more houses on it but these houses were special because they were the nobz houses and were much better than the homes of the boys. The first difference between the dwellings of the nobs and boys was the fact the nobs houses were not stacked and were two stories high, inside there were normally two or three rooms per floor. A nob would have extra rooms such as a room for his grots who would be expected to make him breakfast, polish his war gear, take messages to orks on the nobs behalf and all the other jobs the nob was to lazy to do (most jobs really). Unlike other orks nobs had a bed to sleep in, the bed would have a blanket made from rubbish the nob could find and that included fabric from dead guardsmen and other orks, grots stitched the sheets together and were then expected to clean the sheets after the nob awoke. A nob had a toilet in his house that was kept clean by gretchin and the ork could have a garage for his trukk or battlewagon, the crew of a nobs vehicle often lived inside whatever they were driving so the nob could get a ride whenever it suited him. The higher up the hill the more powerful the ork was and therefore the bigger the house. Near the peak the orks lucky enough to wear mega armour lived in large houses, usually with their own large barrel of beer and a squig fighting arena. Even closer to the top was all the warbosses who had the largest homes teeth could buy and had enough room to store a squadron of battlewagons, which they often did. Finally at the peak lived the warlord and his personal bodyguard of nobz. The warlord had a fortress instead of a home and the great gates that that led into a long hall could just be seen from the market. The inside of the warlord’s fortress was decorated with skulls and banners that were polished daily by the warlord’s slaves. The room that was attached to the entrance hall was the largest and looked like a human court room, the warlord sat on large chair decorated with more skulls and banners from other races. The warlords throne was in the centre of a semi-circle of smaller chairs where the warbosses favoured nobz sat and watched the centre of the room, in front of them their was another semicircle of chairs that were lower down, and in front of that row was another semicircle that was lower down and so forth for ten rows. In the centre of all the semicircles were stairs that led directly to the warbosses throne
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Post by: Rose_Mountainz
@moonshine Oh god! pls edit that to include spaces in the text ! My eyes and head hurts just by scrolling by it!
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Post by: moonshine
Hello everyone.
I've got a bit done today, I got round to sparying the first killa kan, finally and as the title says i made two more ard boyz.
Does anybody have any advice on which klan i should paint the ard boyz as, it's now betwean Goffs, Deffskulz and Blood axe's, they will all end up with some red on them but I did'nt want them to be mostly red.
The poses they're in are quite creative (for me at least)
The sheild ork with the sheild is based on the sm comand squad and the guy with the choppa with shoota attached was my idea.
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Post by: Scrazza
Nice. Well, I don't think Red and blue will go together nicely, so you'd better scratch deathskulls. If you really want to include red in it, go for Blood Axes, but fluff wise, I'd think Bad Moons are the ones most likely to wear 'ard armor. With all their bling and all.
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Yeah i thought that aswell, looks like it will be blood axe's then.
In the fluff bad moonz are definatly most likley to wear ard armour but i figured they would also have some fancy upguned shoota aswell and i really don't know how i'd pose them with shootas.
Oh and btw one of the orks will be carrying the banner. who knows what to put on it cus i sure don't, he he
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Post by: Scrazza
' 'eads fer mi pointy stik! '
you'll need sphess mehreen heads, Guardsmen heads,... you name it. Chains to but them on,...
Also, perhaps a cool banner design....Wait...that was what you asked for.  leme think.
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Post by: moonshine
Thats godd because i have a bitz box full of sm heads and guardsmen heads and other rubbish.
any suggestions for the banner would be great.
Oh and i'm thinking about painting the kanz catachan green, what's everyones opinion on that?
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Post by: Scrazza
So, you're planning on continuing with a Blood Axe feel? Well, Catachan Green Kanz will look very blood axe(ish), so go for it. All I can say of you are going with this is: crude camouflage. for the banner. because you seem to be laening towards blood axes, I suggest a pair of crossed axes, maybe?
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Post by: moonshine
Yeah that sounds like a good banner desighn, i'll use that and put 'ard boyz' underneath it, or a similar slogan.
I just realised i'm leaning towards blood axes, i'll need to paint some other stuff in other klan coulors to counter that, or should i just go blood ax, after all if i want to paint another can paint some orks in the colors pf other klans.
Imo the warboss has a nice blood axe theme to him.
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Post by: a small waagh
Very nice!! i am emvious of thoes eyes!
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Post by: moonshine
Thank you, i get quite a few comments about how i paint ork eyes. It's easy first go over them with blood red then add blazing orrange to one of the corners, finnaly add the smallest dot of skull white to the corner. finally go over the eyes with gloss varnish.
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Post by: moonshine
Hi again
I'm working on the killa kans with the grotzookas and i've put down the basic coulor scheme, i satrted with catachan green and used da green and a 50/50 mix of bleached bone and goblin green, he's not done but I love the way he looks.
The other squad of kans will be deffskulz.
I tried to do some sorce lighting around the lights under the eye-thing and on the sarab, waether it's alive or part of the grotzooka, we'll never know
and he is
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Post by: The Good Green
Cooool kan...
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Post by: Scrazza
Nice paint job. you did a good job on the came, as well as on the tusks. Now you only need to paint the grot on top. chopchop now.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks The Good Green
Cheers scrazza i'm really pleased with the teeth, now as you said too the grot
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Post by: Mr.Awesome1
Thats a really cool paint scheme for the kan nice work!!!
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Post by: moonshine
tanks Mr.Awesome1
Erlier theis morning i sat down infront of my workbench and got to painting the battlewagon. Even though it's not finished i'm very pleased with it. I mostly worked on the wheels and the side. The front of the battlewagon has been highlighted and wethered and i'm pretty pleased with how it came out. The horns were great fun to paint and i also painted the part the crew look out of red, and this along with the horns and teeth on front, make it look like an angry face. Unfortunatly i didn't get the door, orks, big shootas or grot rigge painted. For the wheels i looted the red from arakasi who's trukk, inspired me to get working on my battlewagon  . I am really happy with the results (even though i spilled chainmail all over the white dwarf guide  ) On the back of the battlewagon I painted one of the bits on the back yellow and the painted the bad moon symbol on it, and crossed it out, I think the orks stole this from another battlewagon that they blew up. On top of the battlewagon i attempted some source lighting that came out alright imo, the red would suggest he crew are burning somthing in there.
the yellow looked better than i thought it would, this has given me the courage to try some bad moons in the future
thanks again arakasi, i love the way it looks and i enjoy painting it.
this wheel isn't as good as the first but I like it anyway.
heres my first ever attempt at source lighting
and finnaly the front of the batlewagon, I think it looks like an angry orky face, what does eveyone else think?
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Post by: Scrazza
It looks awesome. Love the bad moon. Big Up.
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thanks scrazza, i havn't painted yellow in ages so i'm suprised i remember how
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Post by: Fifty
I think the interior of the source lighting needs to be brighter. Also, it looks more like the metal around it has heated up to be red-hot, rather than being lit up.
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Thank you for the advice Fifty, would yellow bebright enough ? or i might just leave the effect as it is because i was trying to make it look like the crew were burning somthing
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Post by: bunnygurl
Lovin' your work. Very.........Orky!
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Awesome. Nice to see how the wheels look on something further along to completion!
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Post by: taffiarti
Really like what's going on in the thread.
There's probably something on U tube about the ource lighting. My 2 cents worth though is that I think the glow is meant to be darker round the outside than the actual light source, so if the light was a blood red then I would drop down to red gotre or scab red. (please be aware I have never tried this so it's just an initial thought)
Taff
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Post by: Boyz "R" Us
Ooooh, nice army moonshine, in particular I like the converted big shoota boy and the battlewaggon  Great to see you are salvaging some of your previous orks too, but maybe next time you move, use a different removal company
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Looking good! A wor dof advice on the graffiti: I found it it looks better if your colour transition from dark to light goes from one side of the letter to the other instead of lighter towards the center.
The horns look cool, but aren't they very fragile?
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks for all the commentsguys, it's really motivating.
I've done some work on the grot on the killa kan but there really isn't picture worthy and i I got in a game 1500pt yestarday with my chaos army vs a wraith haevy necron list, it ended up in a draw but was very memorable, I only had to kill three more wariors to make them phase out.
But back on subject :
bunnygurl : Thanks, i try and make things look orky, it's one of the best things about playing orks
Arakasi : Cheers, The red is a great technique thanks for showing me it, i'm not sure wetheri'll do it for any other vehicles, maybe i'll replce the red with another colour next time ?
taffiarti : I checked you tube and did'nt find to much. I went with blazing orrange and built it up by mixing it with blood red .
Boyz "R" Us : Thanks, most ork armies end up looking nice. The big shoota is a cool model, i could have used the normal big shootas but I wanted all the special weapons in the mob too look diffrent, and the battleagon is a fantastic model to work with. And as for the removal company well, they're lucky i didn't do to them what gazghul did to yarrick.
CommissarKhiane : Thank you, i'll try that when i do more graffiti cheers. The horns were very weak at first but after they fell off th third time i realized they would be terrible to keep on so i used the some Jb Weld (industrial strength adhesive ,for when models really won't stay together) and that did the trick.
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Post by: Fifty
Sorry, I am not really an expert on source-lighting. I've seen lots of good tutorials on here though, so you may want to look for them.
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Post by: moonshine
Ok i tried the source lighting again
this is the anglw it should be seen at normally
and heres the top
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Post by: Scrazza
I have to say, the source lightning looks better now. It looks like the drivers/pasangers are building a fire in there, or the thing is running on a steam engine.
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Post by: moonshine
The work on the ard boy is really slow, I got slowed down because I've built an ammo runt and an attack squig. Next weekend i'm buying DoW (I can't spend everything on wargaming) so that will probably slow down worka bit more, but by the end of next week I should have pics of the ard boy, finished and the ammo runt and attack squig.
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Post by: Mr.Awesome1
That blue ard boy is really looking cool!!!
Will you be getting dawn of war 2 or chaos rising cus i got chaos and you can only play chaos with that and i cant find the original DoW???
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Post by: moonshine
probably DoW 2 chaos rising but, now that i look at it I might decide not to get it, I've looked at it quite a bit and it's losing its appeale to me
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Post by: DamienOfTheWRAAAGH
NICE work
like the diffrent clans a real Wragh your starting here
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks, the only thing i'm worried about is will it look good on the table, all the diffrent clans might look like they're from diffrent armies, but hopefully the green skin will make them all work together
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Post by: DamienOfTheWRAAAGH
Well this just poped in my head - fly with me I don't know the way to play the tabletop game - you can also mix up the troops, you know a unit of bad moons evil suns and some goffs or something I dont know
This might work better with a HQ (?) unit like nob bodyguards, Imagine a warboss followd by a Badmoonz, Evilsuns and Goff meganob that would be awesome in my book
I'm just spitballing here
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Post by: Mr.Awesome1
Yeah that would look awesome on the tabletop.
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Post by: DamienOfTheWRAAAGH
Mr.Awesome1 wrote:Yeah that would look awesome on the tabletop.
hahaha wel if Mister Awesome Himself sais so it must be truth. I'll just maybe do that myself .... naaa I just like Bad Moons to much
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Post by: moonshine
DamienOfTheWRAAAGH: I like you're idea but every member in a mob will be the same clan, it makes it easy to tell who goes in what squad.
Anyway tommorow i'll be going down to my local gw for a game or two, i'll be using my old, badly painted models unforunatly  but it's just until I replace them with some nice new models.
I'll be taking
Snikgrim, he has alot of gear so i can't be bothered to write it all in
Big mek with kff, burna, cybork
11 ard boyz, nob pk, bosspole, in a trukk
30 shoota boyz, 2rokkkitz, nob, pk, boospole
30 boyz, 3 big shootas, nob, pk, bospole
30 grotz, 3 runtherds
3 killa kanz, 3 grotzookas
2 killa kanz, 2 big shootas
so thats what i'm takingn i'll tell you how it went tommorow and in the words of
Snikgrim "OI Wana see what me boyz do to ya, Shoot yerself in da face and chop yer ead off and ya get da idea"
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Post by: DamienOfTheWRAAAGH
Yea like I said just spitballing
Cheers
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Post by: moonshine
As i said yestarday i had a 1250pts game at my local gw and heres what happened:
I was playing against standard marines
I didn't get mt opponents name (forgot to ask) but his list was:
HQ-
chaplin, terminator armiuor
Elites-
dreadnought, assult canon, dreadnaught ccw
dreadnought, assult canon, dreadnaught ccw
7 terminators, 6 pairs of lightining claws, 1 thunder hammer
Troops
Tactical squad, flammer, missile launcher
Tactical squad, flammer, missile launcher
Heavy support
Land raider crusader
We rolled for mission and got anhiaition then rolled for set up and got standard deployment.
He won the roll off and let me set up and go first, I set up most of the boyz near the big mek and put the kanz infront of them, the grots were deployed so that they could tarmac the dreads. Snikgrim was in the trukk with the ard boyz. I planned a three prong attack because he deplyed in the corner furthest from me so I had to footslog across the board. On turn one everything advanced towards him except the trukk which turbo boosted to the other side of the board, I took a few pot shots at the dreads with the rokkitz but they didn't do anything. In his turn the dreads assult canons and the land raider shot at the shoota boyz and managed to kill four of them. Turn two was the same and nothig much happened. On my turn 3 The trukk had managed to get into a dangerous position whilst the kanz split of from the boyz and made their own way towards the marine dread. On ther landraider got close to the boyz and the terminators disembarked, the trukk got poped by a krak missile from the tactical squad, the ard boyz were assulted by the dreads and 4 died and the pk only scorred a crew shaken result, I lost the combat and ran away but failed the initiative test and the whole unit, including the warboss was wiped out. on the other side of the board the terminators assulted the shoota boyz, they lasted for a round and the nob killed one terminator. On my turn the kanz moved towards the dreads but were out of assult range. The shoota satyed in combat for a final round (thanks to the bosspole). In his turn the dreads assulted the kans and managed to kill one and take the combat weapons from the others. I then managed to couter assult the terminators withe the sluggas and the mek. Suprisingly the mek killed 3 and the rest of the boyz killed 2 but they stayed in combat with the chaplin, and two terminators, whilst the two other kanz tried to support the kannz in combat but failed and three of them died (one suffered an immobelised, which killed it  ). He could'nt shoot anything so it was straight to assult, The kanz were finished off, but the terminators withstood the orks and took 2 out. In my phase the grots charged a dread for fun  but it was also to see how long they could last in combat, grabber stcks reduced it to one attack and he failed to wound a grot  . in his turn theterminators took out 2 orks and i killed the lightning claws but the combat carried on. The dread killed a grot. In my turn the dread killed a grot and i managed to take out the chaplin and terminator. The remaining slugga boyz tried to attack the land raider but were gunned down, and only the mek and nob survived and they fell back. The dread killed another grot and in his turn he killed another grot and the game ended. The battle went very badky and i will video it next time, i think it went well for my first game with orks in ages though.
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Post by: Anvildude
One piece of advice is to never go head-to-head with similar unit types. I do it for fun, occasionally, dread vs dread, but tactically it's a bad move, since Dreads and walkers are generally low-attack high-damage units. That, and the 'always front armor' on walkers is delightfully helpful in CC against troops. Next time, send your sluggas after the Dreads and your Kanz after the termies and tak squad, counting on the KFF (your Mek should follow the kanz, really, they get a better bonus from that) to keep them alive until they're dug in.
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Post by: Rose_Mountainz
When you're fielding a horde there's a important rule: swarm your enemy. Don't wander off with your kanz or trukk, keep everything togheter and hit one flank at the same time, hard.
Just some tactical advice.
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Post by: moonshine
I agree Rose_Mountainz by turn 4 i realised I should have tried to swarm him, attacking from 3 sides was definatly a bad idea because it was easy to counter all of my attacks
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Post by: moonshine
Well i was just looking at the battle again and decided that to bring it up to 1500 i'll include snikrot so my opponent can't sit and wait for mr to get they're because they'll have snikrot to worry anout, also next time i need to keep every unit together instead of splitting up
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Post by: moonshine
I've been working on the battlewagon and i was about to paint the wheels on the other side, then I had an idea, what if a mek or someone had dropped some radioative waste in the wagon? I still need to paint the barrel but here are the results.
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Post by: DamienOfTheWRAAAGH
Sadly Rad. Waste doesn´t glow green but with Wraagh magic it does
nice ard boy like it a lot
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Post by: Scrazza
Hah, love the radioactive waste idea. Now, you just HAVE to sculpt mutations on the crew, or even on the battle wagon itself. Think mushrooms and limbs.
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Post by: moonshine
OOOh thanks for the idea, what about mutated grot?
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Post by: Scrazza
A mutated grot, will definatly work. Or even a mutated squig pet.
Now, see, now I just have to loot your radiation idea.
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Post by: Bear LaMorte
You kinda just snuck it in there but your first attempt at source lighting came really good. Subtle but very effective.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks Bear LaMorte, Hopefully I will be able to paint some better source lighting in a few years (after lots of practise attempts ,I think it will be a high-ish quality by 2014  )
Oh and scrazza, i don't mind if you use the idea, a deffskull would probably say 'sharin da wealf' is just like 'sharin da ideas'
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Post by: Scrazza
Well, if you practice enough, you could get it right in mere weeks.
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Post by: moonshine
Yeah hopefully but i don't have enough practice models.
Btw I'm scrapping the mutant grot idea, I like the spill as it is so i'm going to leave it.
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Post by: Mr.Awesome1
Thats a bit of a disapointment, I was looking forward to seeing a grot with a rats tail or a third arm or a huge nob arm. That would have been awesome!! :(
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Post by: moonshine
I'm working on the battlewagon and washed the ooze with thrakka green and i'm considering wasing it again in asurman blue to give it a really odd efect. I've finished 2 kans now, only 4 today  . But more importantly i got working on a kff mek today. I wanted the burna to have a 'side arm' look, I wanted this look to make it look like he only had it incase of emergency. Here he is
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Post by: Scrazza
The burna looks nice. Compact though, strange for orks.
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Post by: moonshine
Cheers scrazza, thats the look i was going for, "da kompakt burna 2000 is small enuf ta fit in yer pocket, but big enuff ta roast ya enemies"- big mek stompgrim's sales pitch
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Post by: Meeka89
The converted big shoota boyz look awesome. Like many others I like the conversion, especially the chainsword grot he looks like a ninja. The battlewagon looks awesome, but maybe try going over the teeth with some bleached bone and then washing them with a brownish wash like ogryn flesh to give them a more dirty look.
Looking good!
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks alot Meeka89  , on the next battlewagon I will give that a try (I'm too lazy to re-paint the white teeth). I'm glad you like the rest of the army aswell, the big shoota conversions were very easy to do aswell.
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Post by: moonshine
After I washd the ooze in thrakka green and asurman blue I decided to add grot crew to the wagon, They came out really well and I like them alot. Here they are
this guy is my fav, I wanted to make it look like he's melting
The guy who isn't in the ooze has a head for a hand !
So there they are, I'd love to hear what you guys think
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Post by: Scrazza
love the mutated grots. the ooze looks more realistic now, well done.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks srazza, I agree the ooze looks so much better now.
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Post by: Boyz "R" Us
Hehe, those melting figures are great, love the arm reaching out to be saved! Awesome radioactive ooze paint effect too!
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Post by: Llamahead
Good stuff here really nice crazed battlewagon the Warboss in particular is a nice conversion.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks Boyz "R"Us and cheers Lamahead, I'm glad you like the warboss he's my faviroute figure in the army so far
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Post by: Arakasi
Gruesome!
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks arakasi, but if you think thats gruesome ,just wait to see the mad dok (I've drawn a conceptrt out but done nothing)
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Post by: The Good Green
The ooze came out great and I thought the one grot looked like he was melting before I read it, so... way to pull that off! The pointing arm is kinda weird though... even for mutant grot ooze. It's just hard to tell if i's suppose to be from the melting grot or some other grot that has already melted quite a bit more. Though, now that I type it, I'm not sure that's really a problem.
The big mek is looking cool, with his tooled down scorcha. I would suggest covering the bullet shell eject port (what ever that is called) with some GS or something... to make it look less like a slugga with a flamer nozzle on the end.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks for the idea on the big mek, unfortunatly I've already started painting him  . The grot arm is supposed to be a grot that was standing in the way when the tank burst (it's hard to show that so everyone can draw up their own conclusion  ). thanks for the compliments though
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Looking good!
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Post by: Arakasi
Love the lightning effects on the KFF (I should, it's how I'm doing mine!)
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Post by: moonshine
Cheers ck, i'm looking forward to seeing yours arakasi, I washed it with gloss varnish to give it a glass woth lightning in the middle effect
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Post by: Arakasi
I was going to try that too!
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Post by: moonshine
Odd, great meks must think alike. It works very well and gives it an eletric look
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Post by: bunnygurl
Looking good! I like your blue.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks bunnygurl the blue is a pain in the a** to do, it takes 3 hours to do the blue on one figure (in 3 hours you would think it would be a much higher qaulity)
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Post by: monkeytroll
That mek's looking nice so far, like the KFF. Also liking the details on the wagon. Looking forward to seeing your painboy.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks monkeytroll, the painbpy will be coming in the summer (there's other units i need much more) but i have got a few ideas like :
A big bag of ork body parts
A harness of some sort with ork body parts on it
A large tank of ooze with all sorts of gore in it
A needle for an arm and a tube of ooze attatched to the top of the arm and then a large tube going from the ooze to the needle arm.
Any other ideas would be greatly aprrecieated
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Post by: moonshine
Quick update-
I've been working on the battlewagon and I've began to paint the big shoota casing in red. I washed the wheels in devlan mud aswell as the end of the big shoota to give it a used look.
I'm now wondering what to get next it's a hard choice and it's either
Snikrot and 15 kommandos
15 Burna boyz
15 lootas
what do you guys think?
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Post by: Arakasi
Looking good. How did you do the weathering on the bike?
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks arakasi, I just stippled on graveyard earth and then washed it with devlan mud, it's simple but effective.
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Post by: taffiarti
I really like the weathering on the bike. I look forward to seeing the model with the base fully done to see how you tie it all in together.
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Post by: moonshine
Cheers, The sand on the base might need to go on certain parts of the wheels, though that might make them jam but oh well they're orks.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Looking good, the weathering adds a nice touch!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Nice, that weathering's really effective, definitely keep it on the others.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks CommissarKhaine and Monkeytroll. It looks like I will keep the weathering and use it on the other bikes and probably a few vehicles. I like the way the weathering gives the model a rugged feel instead of the scratched look in the codex.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Those orks are looking very good!
Weathering looks really realistic.
Great Job
 M.K
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Post by: moonshine
Thank you Matt.Kingsly.
I've done 2 more ard boyz and a nob for the ard boyz but they all look similar to the first one so there is no real reason to put pics up unless someone wants to see them. Anyway the biker boss ide will be put on hold for a long time now beacuse I want Raid on kastoral novem and there are other things I want now, I have decided on using an attack bike when I finnaly get round to starting him
Anyway what do you think I should go with, I have narrowed it down to a few choices:
Nob bikers
Snikrot and kommandos
15 burnas for the battlewagons
or if anyone has a better idea please tell me, cheers
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Post by: Arakasi
Given where you were going with that warbike, I'd say Nob bikers
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Post by: moonshine
Thats how it looks Arakasi, I might just buy a box of bikes, not put the riders on and run them as nob bikers to see weather I want regular bikes or nob bikes.
BUtl seeing as it's been 10 days since I last updated this thing I thought that now it's 1am and I don't need to get up early tomorow morning I might aswell take some pictures of the ard boyz. I was encouraged today when I went down to my local gw and my army got alot of admiration form the staff and gamers (except one 11 year old who thinks he is god of wargaming  ,he walked up to me and said "those look crap" and then he continued to paint without undercoating his models and eventually playing a game where he thougt fire warriors were ws 5  ) but apart from that everyone else really like the models, especially the ard boyz flag so i'm using it as my avatar.
But anyway you lot probably want to see the pics so here they are
The nob of the squad has the nickname "will walluce" (thats a braveheart refrence btw) beacuse he single handedly took out a landraider, pedro kantor and was eventually kill by a dreadnaght. The warpaint on his face also helpped him get the nickname
oh and I painted the guy with the axe/shoota.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Nice freehand on the flag; simple but effective.
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Post by: bunnygurl
Shiznit dude. Sweet freehand. The lines are so straight and clean. Me likey very much.
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Post by: Arakasi
moonshine wrote:I was encouraged today when I went down to my local gw and my army got alot of admiration form the staff and gamers ... but apart from that everyone else really like the models, especially the ard boyz flag so i'm using it as my avatar.
And rightly so - nice work!
moonshine wrote:(except one 11 year old who thinks he is god of wargaming  ,he walked up to me and said "those look crap" and then he continued to paint without undercoating his models and eventually playing a game where he thougt fire warriors were ws 5  )
There is always one... pay no heed!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Sweet flag, and the 'ard boyz lookig nice too.
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Post by: Scrazza
Nice freehand on the banner. And, great work overall, I stopped checking this blog for a while and when I did, I was surprised.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks for all the comments guys
CommisarKhaine : thanks, I'm wondering if I should add more to the banner, maybe some words or glyhps to make it less plain but I don't want to wreck it so its just an idea for now
bunnygurl : cheers, I enjoyed painting the straight lines
Arasaki : Thank you, you are right there is always one  , after a while everyone just ignores them  ,it seems to work
monkeytroll: cheers, it's encouraging that someone with you're painting skills thinks my models look good
Scrazza : thanks, I was wondering why you hadn't posted in ages, I can't wait to see you're orks aswell
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
No need to add more IMO, the trick with 'simple and effective' is that you don't overdo stuff, which can be pretty hard since it involves restraining yourself
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Post by: moonshine
Well I've been working on the mutant grot battlewagon and whilst I was painting the big shootas I realized I'm going to end up with quite a few of these. Then I realized that they would not look like they belonged to the same army. So after about an hor of thinking I decided to paint the front of all the vehicles red. So Im going with blood red over all of my hard work, it looks good from a distance but I still need to highlight it and maybe add some gloss to it. Anyway I aslo finished another 3 ard boys.
I will put pictures up when I've finished painting the red battlewagon front and I'll take photos of the ard boys while i'm at it. Anyway I just thought I'd update this thing.
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Post by: neil101
Wow just caught up with your thread after a long while, Great looking orks Moonshine , love the blue woad , are your boys Death skulls? or is it just a nice colour scheme. will have to catch up proper mate with your blog .
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks neil101.
Anyway, i've finished the ard boys but i really can't be bothred to uload pictures, I should be able to on monday
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Post by: The Ravening Jaw
Very nice looking...I really, like the banner and I love it when people mix in the black orc parts. Keep up the good work.
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Post by: moonshine
well after a while not posting here is a post, i've finished the ard boysmand this trukk that was converted from a rhino
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Post by: Inget namn
Lol that look awzzum man!!!!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Got to ask; Do you know a god way of building your own killacan of everyday objecs and some left bitz???
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Post by: Arakasi
Hard to make out details due to the undercoat - but looks very promising.
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Post by: moonshine
yeah undercoats are really irretating when taking pictures
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Post by: monkeytroll
Looks interesting, anything planned for that hole in the front, or is it just a hole in the front?
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Post by: moonshine
its just a hole in the front, for now at least
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Post by: taffiarti
I love the simplicity of this. it is just so ORK!
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Post by: nuclealosaur
That's some mean as Orks!
What did you use for the diamond pattern metal plate on the Rhino/Trukk?
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks everyone, Nuclealosaur, i used some stuff i cut off an old ork trukk.
Anyway, I finnaly got round ot painting the chaos sorcerer for my thousand sons, I got this guy 3 years ago just to use in games, converted him a few weeks ago and finished painting him today
the space wolves head is revenge for how dissapointing prospero burns was !
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Post by: Scrazza
Cool updates Moon! I like the converted rhino.
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Post by: medabee
I love the sorcerer, keep up the nice work.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks guys
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Thats one awesome rhino/trukk!
Nice sorcerer I supose as well, but he's blue, and while dat colour ain't squishy, dere's not enough green (dat rock no cut it!)
geat job all round! any chance of seeing more green?
 M.K
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Post by: moonshine
Yeah of chourse there is more orks coming, I just havn't had anything worth uploading lately
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Post by: Davidian
nice idea with the 'ard boyz. I got loads of choppas and sluggas leftover so I might have to get me a box of black orcs.
How do the BO's compare to boyz/nobz in size btw? (comparison photo wud rock)
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks, anyway as requested here is a size comparison, as you can see they are not tall enough to be nobz and stand out from regular boyz, I hope this helped
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Post by: Scrazza
It's pretty clear. Nice work by the way.
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Post by: Inget namn
I would use 'em as nobz, the zise can't be exactly the same at every singel nob right, he is still bigger then a regular boy
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Post by: moonshine
Not by much though, they are much smaller than nobz
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Post by: Scrazza
I think they are about the same size of an ork nob that's included in the boyz box. But, you can still use them as normal orks. Not all boyz are of the same height.  as long as boyz aren't as tall, or bigger, as a nob.
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Post by: moonshine
I don't use the nob in the boy box, it does not stand out enough
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Post by: schank23
moonshine wrote:Thats how it looks Arakasi, I might just buy a box of bikes, not put the riders on and run them as nob bikers to see weather I want regular bikes or nob bikes.
BUtl seeing as it's been 10 days since I last updated this thing I thought that now it's 1am and I don't need to get up early tomorow morning I might aswell take some pictures of the ard boyz. I was encouraged today when I went down to my local gw and my army got alot of admiration form the staff and gamers (except one 11 year old who thinks he is god of wargaming  ,he walked up to me and said "those look crap" and then he continued to paint without undercoating his models and eventually playing a game where he thougt fire warriors were ws 5  ) but apart from that everyone else really like the models, especially the ard boyz flag so i'm using it as my avatar.
But anyway you lot probably want to see the pics so here they are
The nob of the squad has the nickname "will walluce" (thats a braveheart refrence btw) beacuse he single handedly took out a landraider, pedro kantor and was eventually kill by a dreadnaght. The warpaint on his face also helpped him get the nickname
oh and I painted the guy with the axe/shoota.
Love that banner. And your Black Orc conversion reminds me of my own army I'm working on. Da Brazen Klawz. Love the way you painted him. Really great looking army so far and some awesome conversion. Will be following this.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks schank23, I have been following your blog aswell, great stuff on it.
Anyway, I got around to repainting the front of the battlewagon and it looks much better than before imo. I have also been working on some de stuff and went with a red scheme for kabalite warriors and a brown scheme for wyches I don't know if I will make a seperate blog for them, what do you think ?. Oh and I have also gone back to some good old boyz and started work on some shoota boyz with soem unique rocket launchers.
I kept the WAAAGh on the battlewagon but now it has 3 A's
And now some de stuff, sorry for the blurry pics
and here is the Sybarite
and here is the wyches hekatrix, he is the only painted wych
And now back to some good old orks, not painted but they are getting there
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Post by: Scrazza
Looking good.  Nice red you got there.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks Scraza, I dunno if it looks better with or without gloss though
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Post by: schank23
Awesome. If that dozer blade doesnt say "Get the hell out of my way or add to my paint job!" then I dont know what does. I think it looks great. Always shiny from a fresh coat of blood.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks schank23 I might put that on the front of one of my tanks actually.
Anyway, I have been writing more of my Ork novel and whilst reading it back I found an extract I am rather proud of, please tell me what you think.
More lasgun fire streaked over the kommandos heads, Snikgrim knew they would not be able to hide for long. Snikgrim looked to the left and saw one of his kommandos trying to peek the top of cover, “get down ya ruddy git, ya gonna get yer ead blown of, come ta fink of it keep lookin” called Snikgrim in a sarcastic tone as he let out a laugh. The kommando unfortunately did not understand sarcasm and stuck his head over the barrier anyway, seconds later the Orks head flew across the room, closely followed by the rest of his body. Snikgrim sighed as the headless body ran around flapping its arms about like a grot with a squig down his pants. As the headless ork ran past Snikgrim, the nob had an idea “might aswell make da most o dis” he said to himself as he pulled the pin from a stickbomb and casually shoved the crude grenade down the decapitated kommandos black trousers. The body continued to flap its arms about as it fell over the Orks cover, the humans ignored it, believing it would collapse before it reached them. The dying kommando ran towards the disciplined ranks of Imperial guard, drawing the attention of the soldiers who began to shoot it immediately. The Ork finally collapsed, unfortunately for the guardsmen, nobod1y spotted the Orky grenade hidden within it’s pants. Snikgrim waited for the distinctive BOOM that only a stickbomb could create, he laughed as Ork and Human limbs flew overhead.
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Post by: schank23
...as the headless body ran around flapping its arms about like a grot with a squig down his pants.... classic I love that line. Nice fluff there moonshine.
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Post by: moonshine
Cheers schank23, It took a while to think of that line
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Post by: monkeytroll
Coming along nicely there moonshine. A big drill is always important  The OSL looks alright to me, and like the guy with the shades and extra grip on the gun.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks Monkeytroll, I figured that the zany ork with glasses and an extra grip would appeal to someone doing crazy stuff like you. And yeah, a big drill is allways imortant, esspecialy if it is going to smash through power armour.
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Post by: schank23
Ha! I love the guy with the rokkit launcha on his back. Big badda boom.
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Post by: moonshine
Hello again, Work has been slow lately and not much stuff has happend. On friday I got Everything primed
I have been working on the shoota boy mob and bought a box of lootas a few days ago, I got them assembled but was dissapointed that there are only 4 deffguns in the box so I converted a 5th from th meks kmb and a few other things. Why does gw not just put 5 deffguns in there ?
anyway, here are the pics :
It is hard to see due to the fact it is basecoated but it looks kind of like an ork sniper rifle
Yes, the ork on the right does have a burst cannon !
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Post by: moonshine
I finished the shoota boys today, I can't be bothered to take pictures of them though. Today I played a game against blood angels and HOLY CRAP I WON !
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Post by: schank23
Ha Kill those 'Umies. You should add a BA trophy to the MVP of the game.
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Post by: moonshine
I probably should, the mvp was deffinatly the blue killa kan, he killed astorath the grim and then a landraider !
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Post by: Anvildude
A Kan taking out a Land Raider? Yeah, he's definitely earned a trophy.
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Post by: moonshine
Whilst painting things today I was thinking of what trophy to give the kan for popping a land raider and asortath the grim, does anyone have any suggestions ? I also decided to try another background for my photos, you can be the judge of if it worked or not  . Nothing much else has happened but I decided to update this blog with pictures.
I have finished 8 shoota boys I am half way through doing the skin on 15 others.
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Post by: Anvildude
Maybe some Land Raider tread links? If those are iconic enough. If not, perhaps the Assault Ramp bit, glued on as extra armour or something. As for Astorath, perhaps a black feathered wing?
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Post by: moonshine
Yeah maybe, what makes a distinctive landraider trophy ?
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Post by: moonshine
Been a while since I worked on the mek or anything for that matter. I have not had much time to work on stuff since pissing away around 100quid on computer on monday  . Anyway at least it will help me stick to "no buying anything until what I have is painted" and I have a good few months of painting without needing to buy anything. But anyway, I got all the lootas built, primed and drybrushed. Also I got the meks old burna replaced by somthing muvh more burny (if that is a real word)
Oh and I was in the mood to paint somthing different so count the sevens
In case you didn't get the reference I was talking about the death guard (plauge marines if you are that out of touch with the fluff)
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Post by: moonshine
Well, it might be a while until I next get around to actually painting or building somthing. I'm going through alot right now and there is a ton of family problems to sort out aswell as one really big issue. It will probably be about a month before I actually do anything, at best, it will be two weeks before anything gets done. Apart from that all that I have done is add a little bit of paint to the mek and done the skin. Anyway Thank you everyone for taking an interest in this project, I will be back to schedule as soon as possible.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Family before toy soldiers  Hope you get things sorted as easily as possible.
Take care, we'll still be hanging around looking for reasons to avoid painting when you get back...
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Post by: moonshine
Hi everyone. I have not gotten anything done yet. BUT. I have found a new way to paint ork skin, it really brings out muscle defenition and looks much better, I have also discovered that I actually have the patience to use blending. This however mean that I need to re-do almost all of my orks AAAAARGH. Does anybody know a way I can speed it up, I really want to get on with building some stuff soon but it will just mean more stuff to paint. Any advice is welcome, thanks.
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Post by: bigfish
This is a really cool thread. liking the way you can see how you have actually goten better at painting since the begining of the project. nice.
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Post by: Grass4hopper
I love the burst cannon on the warbike, great conversion.
The camo pattern on the killa kans looks great.
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Post by: schank23
Grass4hopper wrote:I love the burst cannon on the warbike, great conversion.
The camo pattern on the killa kans looks great.
I second that.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks guys, feel free to steal these ideas
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Post by: moonshine
So it is 2 am and I finally got the first big 30 man mob of shoota boys finished. I remember building these guys during the final days of december whilst watching Starship Troopers 1 (the good one). I added the static grass to them litaerally 20 minutes ago and took a picture before I went to bed, it is hard to get a decent photo of 30 models on camera so I had to take 3 pictures and 1 from above to show how many there are.
I have to admit, the joy of getting this mob of my desk and into the display cabinet is great. Now all I have to paint is :
10 slugga boys
30 grots
1 trukk
2 battlewagons
5 lootas
2 warbikers
1 Killa kan
7 plauge marines
1 daemon prince
9 wych
20 hormaguants
and a 1 Hive tyrant
But anyway, here are the pictures of the brand new shoota boy mob.
and finnaly, here is what they look like from above
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Post by: bigfish
wow they look really cool, the pic quality is letting down the coolness of them though. but Awesome
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Post by: moonshine
Yeah picture quality does suck but getting 30 orks on camera is not easy.
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Post by: bigfish
tell me about it :/
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Post by: Grie Velorn
The trick is to not get all 30 in the photo at once, 3-4 guys at a time is really all you need to do.
I really like the rust, the only problem with it I can see it that it is pretty much opposite of where it should be. When something rusts is usually starts the in area were it is used least, but it appears your is at with it is used the most.
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Post by: moonshine
Grie Verlon : Lots of photos would be a bit boring. You get the idea of what they look like after seeing several of the boys and I only did it to show how many I have done.
As for the rust, I'm just going to go with the excuse that it is orks: maybe they only applied rust protection on certain places, maybe they used different peices of metal to build their guns, maybe it is because they belive it will only rust their or maybe it is just an weird ork thing
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Post by: DamienOfTheWRAAAGH
Ork's are so awesome they bend laws of fysics as well as laws of rustics
DUH!
That biker is AWESOME
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks, it was relativly simple to paint aswell.
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Post by: schank23
Well thats one troop choice down. 5 more to go. Only bad thing about orks. You have to paint so many. Now if they would just let you use 10 orks give the 3 wounds and triple their attacks it would cut back alot on the painting. But so far no one will bite to that.
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Post by: Ajroo
schank23 wrote:Well thats one troop choice down. 5 more to go. Only bad thing about orks. You have to paint so many. Now if they would just let you use 10 orks give the 3 wounds and triple their attacks it would cut back alot on the painting. But so far no one will bite to that.
even more wound allocation tricks. avvit
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Post by: moonshine
schank23 wrote:Well thats one troop choice down. 5 more to go. Only bad thing about orks. You have to paint so many. Now if they would just let you use 10 orks give the 3 wounds and triple their attacks it would cut back alot on the painting. But so far no one will bite to that.
Ah but where is the fun in that ? And also they would only get 40 attacks on the charge instead of 120 !
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Post by: DamienOfTheWRAAAGH
Holy peanut face
120 attacks??!?!!
I don't play the game but that just sounds f-ing stupid
also I just lost The Game
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Post by: moonshine
Yeah thats why I paint huge mobs of them.
Sigh, I still have a whole load of orks on my desk but the good news is only 10 more to complete my slugga and choppa mob. I took a break today to change my avatar but now back to painting. Does anybody know a way to speed up the painting process ?
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Post by: DamienOfTheWRAAAGH
renounce your current lifestyle and go hermit painting only
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Post by: moonshine
I was bored today so I came up with this concept. Does anybody have any idea of what I could use somthing like this as ?
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Post by: bigfish
Burna boy unit, blood axes, copying witch hunters. But thats obvious.
big mek with burna maybe?
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Post by: DamienOfTheWRAAAGH
Big mek with burna sounds good, it'll need some other things to but yea sound awesome.
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Post by: moonshine
Been working on the trukk I got in the ork battleforce and I decided change it up a bit to make it slightly unique. Sorry for the blurry photos but I took the photos in a hurry. The red areas are done in the same way Arakasi does his except I replaced mechrite red with blood red and instead of washing it Asurman blue I used Baal red, on the wheels and the front ram I used Badab black, I used a stipple brush for the weathering aswell . I still have some work to do but I would love to hear your thoughts on it.
I am looking for a good way to paint metal, anybody got a good technique ?
Oh and I am starting Warmachine and Malifaux, does anybody want to see it ?
As you can see the gunner is on top
I attempted some blending on the black areas, I am pleased eith the results
Here is the ladder for the dirver !
The driver gets a close-up.
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Post by: Arakasi
I use both the Asurmen Blue and Baal Red - but for different purposes. Mix some Asurmen Blue with some Gloss Varnish and paint it directly into the crevices - it may just be your photos, but it should increase the contrast very effectively. I use the Baal Red wash at the end to tone down the orange-y look I end up with, and help integrate all of the layers. It's looking good - though better pictures would always be nice!
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Post by: moonshine
Yeah better pictures would definatly help but I did it in a rush. Thanks, I will try the asurman blue idea.
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Post by: schank23
I didnt notice before but I like how you repositioned the gunner and added the ramp. Gives a whole new feel to the trukk. Very nice.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks. I wanted to get the driver to look as if he is sitting in a watchtower or somthing. I like to think that he would sit in it even when it was not moving to stop it from being stolen and to shoot grots who wanted a joyride. It is a really simple conversion and for the next trukk I am considering adding a ramp that goes from where the passenger seet it into the back (It is hard to describe).
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Post by: moonshine
I just decided to update you guys. I managed to get 10 gretchin done today and the runtherd. SInce grots are not that exciting I decided not to waste time taking photos of them but i am writing this on here because it is a project log and I am trying to keep it as updated as possible.
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Post by: DamienOfTheWRAAAGH
Thanks A bunch
also watchtower truck is awesome
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Post by: monkeytroll
Grots aren't exciting? Better be careful who hears you say that, might find a few revolutions knocking your door down to edukate you
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Post by: moonshine
 Straight out of the box grots of chourse. The next lot look a bit better, one of them thinks he is a Blood Angel !
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Post by: DamienOfTheWRAAAGH
HA soddin Grotz wff their soddin brainz bunch a wimpz if ya asks me!
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Post by: moonshine
It sure has been a while since I updated this but I have been working on the big mek with kff and finished him this morning. I am very proud of how the light of the kff came out.
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Post by: Scrazza
I'm back!
You're army's progress is looking great. Good job.
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Post by: bigfish
very nice very nice indeed
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks guys, I have almost finished the trukk aswell and I am working on 5 home made lootas.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
It's all looking good!
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Post by: moonshine
Cheers
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Post by: bigfish
One of my fav models too. really need to get round to getting one
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Post by: Scrazza
Snikrot is looking amazing, good job.
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Post by: Arakasi
Need better photos of the Trukk - I want to see it in all of its glory!
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Post by: mekbadzappa
Snickrot does look amazing, also the trukks look great! Keep up the good work and consider urself subscribed.
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Post by: moonshine
Arakasi wrote:Need better photos of the Trukk - I want to see it in all of its glory!
I will get working on that when there is some better picture taking weather
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Post by: moonshine
sorry for the lack of updates lately, I have not been able to take pictures lately. I have recently been able to get into malifaux and my dark eldar are coming along nicely, not much time for the orks. I will probably be putting up pictures of the lootas soon.
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Post by: Gorgrimm
Nice looking stuff Moonshine.
I love the Warboss with the chrome helmet/mask. Striking.
I am really liking how the black ork parts work out with 40k Orks. I've toyed with that before and definitely am going to have to go with it for Gorgrimm's boyz.
I like your vehicles too. How do you like the Killa Kan models? they look dead 'ard.
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Post by: moonshine
Gorgrimm wrote:Nice looking stuff Moonshine.
I love the Warboss with the chrome helmet/mask. Striking.
I am really liking how the black ork parts work out with 40k Orks. I've toyed with that before and definitely am going to have to go with it for Gorgrimm's boyz.
I like your vehicles too. How do you like the Killa Kan models? they look dead 'ard.
I personally love the Kan models, I think they are one of the best kits gw makes. As for the black on orks, I think it is brilliant, it pprovides an perfect basecoat, i broke it all up with various reds and browns. The green and black really unifies ork armies. Thanks for all of the compliments
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Post by: Breeezy
ew its ok i gess but usully i have seen trolls painted more less green they look abit like bogeys or leaves or other green things. i like to paint mine blue but they are ok good job
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Post by: moonshine
Um ok? These are Orks, not Orcs.
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Post by: Gorgrimm
Oh sorry, while I really do like black painted orks, they look dead mean, I meant Black Orc parts in 40k. The heads just fit so well.
I have some very old killa Kans I got online a long time ago. I have been toying with replacing them ever since I picked up one of the new Deff Dreads. Yours look awesome, so its tipping the scales. I love those grotzookas.
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Post by: moonshine
Thanks, the black orcs are great for making Ard boys, they ra enot big enough to be nobs but stand out amongst the regular boys.
The new grotzookas are great, because I needed three I was forced build one from scratch using the kanon from the battlewagon kit and some other spare bits.
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Post by: moonshine
So it's been a while but with good reason, I'm quiting 40k, this army is being sold tommorow ot some time in the new year, I'm not quitting gaming though as I intend to use the money from my 40k stuff being sold to get into Warmachine, Dystopian wars, Infinity(maybe) and to buy a whole bunch of Malifaux crews to expand that for me. Thanks for supporting this thread, I'll probably post a link to the next one here when I get going.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
WHAT? YOUR QUITTING 40K?
oh...
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Post by: moonshine
Yeah, it's been 5 months since I last played, it cost 400£ for an army, GW sucks in general, I like other models more and I like other game systems more, I don't know why anybody still bothers playing it.
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Post by: HAZZER
Hey moonshine, Come t look at your blog man!  Looks good Iove the rust affects and blood on those orks I do the same on my guys too! How do you do your rust then? I do boltgun metal on weapons babbad black and delven mud washes then a 1:1 mix of scorched brown to blazing orange.I then wipe this away leaving a rusty tingeI then hilight with mitheral silver. I then use this humbrle red paint which I can't rember the name!  Hey how about you check out my blog too? (Link is in signature).Looking forward to updates btw your painting has really improved  , HAZZER
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