I just saw something hilarious (to me, at least) and depressing on facebook. It's a brief discussion between a a young teenage girl (around15-16? Not entirely sure. She's a relative) and a mate of hers. Behold:
Girl 1: "had a dream our country got bombed it was genuinly really really really horrible... and that was just a dream...I really hope it never happens!"
That's why if I show up on 40K night at my FLGS and see a load of teens and tweenies, I just turn right around without saying a word, because I don't want to hear how ignorant they are.
I think that too though when I hear my niece and her friends go on about something. The sheer amount of holy gak stupid makes my head hurt, and I dont claim to be an intelligent person, so thats gotta be bad
Apparently rap/hip hop is really big again, only it isn't rap and hip hop , rhyming over a beat is called grime core? nerd rage? fat sally? or something of that Ilk. It hasn't been heard before, really.
Yea my nephew says sick for just about everything. I cant figure out if something is really sick....or just, well, whatever the hell his sick is suppose to mean
So, like, I was making out with this guy, and he totally, like, tried to feel me up?!? I was all like, "No way" and I left. It was, like, really scary.
From the mouth of my generation, to the ears of yours.
chowderhead13 wrote:My generation is rampant with the "Like" virus.
So, like, I was making out with this guy, and he totally, like, tried to feel me up?!? I was all like, "No way" and I left. It was, like, really scary.
From the mouth of my generation, to the ears of yours.
chowderhead13 wrote:My generation is rampant with the "Like" virus.
So, like, I was making out with this guy, and he totally, like, tried to feel me up?!? I was all like, "No way" and I left. It was, like, really scary.
From the mouth of my generation, to the ears of yours.
NOTE: I am a Freshman in High School.
Like, totally then like, innit, seen, nice, nice, nice. and the best I heard today 'shut your moot' (mouth? wtf!).
chowderhead13 wrote:My generation is rampant with the "Like" virus.
So, like, I was making out with this guy, and he totally, like, tried to feel me up?!? I was all like, "No way" and I left. It was, like, really scary.
From the mouth of my generation, to the ears of yours.
NOTE: I am a Freshman in High School.
That's gay. Everyone knows girls are icky.
It's wicked gay.
I actually got 3 hours of detention for slapping a kid for saying "That kid is so fething gay." Since when is gay a derogatory statement? My friend is gay, and I feel for him every time someone walks by him at schools, and laughs. (He's pretty open)
And sex is rampant at 14. I wonder how the gods have allowed no-one to get preggers.
chowderhead13 wrote:My generation is rampant with the "Like" virus.
So, like, I was making out with this guy, and he totally, like, tried to feel me up?!? I was all like, "No way" and I left. It was, like, really scary.
From the mouth of my generation, to the ears of yours.
chowderhead13 wrote:My generation is rampant with the "Like" virus.
So, like, I was making out with this guy, and he totally, like, tried to feel me up?!? I was all like, "No way" and I left. It was, like, really scary.
From the mouth of my generation, to the ears of yours.
Just to make sure you understand, I am 13 and agree with everything that has been said. Apart from the few who can use their brain, young people in Western Australia have either succumbed to 1337 speak or the equivalent of permanent Tourette's sydrome (swearing uncontrollably for no reason). Those or they are just plain stupid.
As I will no doubt waffle on, I will describe an event that illustrates my point as basically as possible.
My train pulls up at a station and no one gets off. Guy about my age runs up to the door and presses the button to open it. Not only does he not get off, but he makes a young couple (about 15/16), who were leaning on, the door stagger to keep their balance. This is where it gets funny;
Boyfriend: "What the f*ck do you think you're doing?"
Girlfriend: "I was leaning on that you pr*ck!"
Kid: "Heh" *starts smiling*
Boyfriend: "Why the f*ck you smiling c*nt? Some kind of slow?"
Grilfriend: "You should bash him"
Boyfriend: "I will if the c*nt doesn't wipe that f*cking smile off his f*cking face"
*couple move down carriage*
Kid: "LOL, OMG that was so funny"
*me staring at him*
See, now even I'm not sure if that makes sense. We are a stuffed up generation. With exceptions.
Tim the Biovore wrote:
My train pulls up at a station and no one gets off. Guy about my age runs up to the door and presses the button to open it. Not only does he not get off, but he makes a young couple (about 15/16), who were leaning on, the door stagger to keep their balance. This is where it gets funny;
Boyfriend: "What the f*ck do you think you're doing?"
Girlfriend: "I was leaning on that you pr*ck!"
Kid: "Heh" *starts smiling*
Boyfriend: "Why the f*ck you smiling c*nt? Some kind of slow?"
Grilfriend: "You should bash him"
Boyfriend: "I will if the c*nt doesn't wipe that f*cking smile off his f*cking face"
*couple move down carriage*
Kid: "LOL, OMG that was so funny"
*me staring at him*
For a 13 year old, I must say, you seem remarkably literate. I've seen your posts and I honestly thought you were significantly older. With regard to the exchange that you mention above, it's sadly not limited to "them kids these days". I work with day traders in NY. They're some of the foulest mouthed people I've ever dealt with next to sailors. There's nothing quite like calling someone up, genuinely TRYING to help them, and after they find out who you are, and what you're trying to do, getting a "What the f' are you calling me about that for? I don't know anything about it!" and a slam down of the receiver.
Worst part is that it's contagious. I have a hard time stopping myself from launching into a tirade sometimes.
You know, given how each generation of "Kids Today" has consistently been the most ignorant, lazy, respectful, immoral, stubborn, reckless, tasteless and stupid ever to live, I'm shocked the human race is still functioning. For all that has changed over the thousands of years of recorded history the unfailing sign of declining civilization in the form of "Kids Today" has been very consistent.
In fact given where we are today I can only assume the whole "Cave Man" thing is a myth. After all since "Kids Today" have always been just the worst generation to date, it stands to reason that each previous generation was better. It seems to be the logical conclusion then, that the people of prehistory were some kind of transcendent super beings, that were nigh-immortal masters of every possible discipline, each able to do the work of 10,000 modern humans.They must have unending empathy for their fellows, and an ability for rational planning that bordered on clairvoyance. Obviously the only reason we have no records of these magnificent beings is that after so many generations of being "Kids Today" our minds are simply to primitive and debauched to recognize them.
You know either that or young people as a whole have always tended to be just a bit immature, and older folks as a whole have always tended to be just a bit curmudgeony and overly eager to forget the more embarrassing aspects of their youth.
Chongara wrote:... It seems to be the logical conclusion then, that the people of prehistory were some kind of transcendent super beings, that were nigh-immortal masters of every possible discipline, each able to do the work of 10,000 modern humans.They must have unending empathy for their fellows, and an ability for rational planning that bordered on clairvoyance...
Obviously. I mean, they got by without iPhones. Or computers. Even without electricity, not to mention engines. Those guys were hardcore. None of us could survive for a month without all that stuff.
If all these old people and white people and gak werent so bent up about reading and slang and words and gak they wouldnt think we sound so dumb we be like lol and gak
This was overheard at after dinner scrabble game from my girlfriend's cousin to her boyfriend during a boring family holday gathering: "who cares about how its spelt? <n-word> why you always so lame?" The yound lady is white, from the country, and 15 years old I think, as was her boyfriend. Her cellphone plays the Pussycat Dolls. No child left behind.
I'm so grateful I'm finally in my 20's, those paragon years where my generation stops being "those damned kids" and starts getting to lambast the teenagers for being completely slowed.
youbedead wrote:
If only you saw those a few years ago, eh?
Then I would just be posting the videos about law school and business that Fraz did.
In any case, political science isn't as bad as that video makes it sound. Regression work is incredibly easy now that there are so many solid utilities available. Coding, on the other hand, can take months.
Chongara wrote:You know, given how each generation of "Kids Today" has consistently been the most ignorant, lazy, respectful, immoral, stubborn, reckless, tasteless and stupid ever to live, I'm shocked the human race is still functioning. For all that has changed over the thousands of years of recorded history the unfailing sign of declining civilization in the form of "Kids Today" has been very consistent.
In fact given where we are today I can only assume the whole "Cave Man" thing is a myth. After all since "Kids Today" have always been just the worst generation to date, it stands to reason that each previous generation was better. It seems to be the logical conclusion then, that the people of prehistory were some kind of transcendent super beings, that were nigh-immortal masters of every possible discipline, each able to do the work of 10,000 modern humans.They must have unending empathy for their fellows, and an ability for rational planning that bordered on clairvoyance. Obviously the only reason we have no records of these magnificent beings is that after so many generations of being "Kids Today" our minds are simply to primitive and debauched to recognize them.
You know either that or young people as a whole have always tended to be just a bit immature, and older folks as a whole have always tended to be just a bit curmudgeony and overly eager to forget the more embarrassing aspects of their youth.
Chongara wrote:You know, given how each generation of "Kids Today" has consistently been the most ignorant, lazy, respectful, immoral, stubborn, reckless, tasteless and stupid ever to live, I'm shocked the human race is still functioning. For all that has changed over the thousands of years of recorded history the unfailing sign of declining civilization in the form of "Kids Today" has been very consistent.
In fact given where we are today I can only assume the whole "Cave Man" thing is a myth. After all since "Kids Today" have always been just the worst generation to date, it stands to reason that each previous generation was better. It seems to be the logical conclusion then, that the people of prehistory were some kind of transcendent super beings, that were nigh-immortal masters of every possible discipline, each able to do the work of 10,000 modern humans.They must have unending empathy for their fellows, and an ability for rational planning that bordered on clairvoyance. Obviously the only reason we have no records of these magnificent beings is that after so many generations of being "Kids Today" our minds are simply to primitive and debauched to recognize them.
You know either that or young people as a whole have always tended to be just a bit immature, and older folks as a whole have always tended to be just a bit curmudgeony and overly eager to forget the more embarrassing aspects of their youth.
While I agree with some of the sentiment here,and found the post amusing as well,I don't see the overall issue as one of a steady decline from generation to generation.
If we take your cave man example,clearly there was a steady incline in human intelligence over many thousands of years,eventually leading up to the existence of "modern man".from that point on there has been an ebb and flow of intelligence,ages of extreme enlightenment,periods of less than brilliant moments and so on,
However,when examining the current crop of "kids these days",it appears ,to me at least, that it's a period of decline,sure past generations of kids did alot of stupid things,but this seems to me to be the first modern generation to genuinely embrace and glorify stupidity to the point of idolization of the moronic.
...of course ,I am a curmudgeony old guy....so I could be wrong.
jp400 wrote:The problem with today's kids can be solved in my opinion if parents today brought back old school methods of solving said problems.
Buddy is going to need a better paddle, that one looks like wood, it will break to easy. Personly im going to be the parent that says this to my son (if i ever help to have kids) "get a girl pregnant and il break your arm." of coarse once they move out i wont give a hoot what they do.
However,when examining the current crop of "kids these days",it appears ,to me at least, that it's a period of decline,sure past generations of kids did alot of stupid things,but this seems to me to be the first modern generation to genuinely embrace and glorify stupidity to the point of idolization of the moronic.
...of course ,I am a curmudgeony old guy....so I could be wrong.
Don't feel too bad, you're in good company. Socrates had very similar thoughts on the subject.
I mean, he HAS got a point. Sort of. White people are historically the most evil (or awesome, depending on your viewpoint...). We've done some pretty muffed-up gak.
Chongara wrote:You know, given how each generation of "Kids Today" has consistently been the most ignorant, lazy, respectful, immoral, stubborn, reckless, tasteless and stupid ever to live, I'm shocked the human race is still functioning. For all that has changed over the thousands of years of recorded history the unfailing sign of declining civilization in the form of "Kids Today" has been very consistent.
In fact given where we are today I can only assume the whole "Cave Man" thing is a myth. After all since "Kids Today" have always been just the worst generation to date, it stands to reason that each previous generation was better. It seems to be the logical conclusion then, that the people of prehistory were some kind of transcendent super beings, that were nigh-immortal masters of every possible discipline, each able to do the work of 10,000 modern humans.They must have unending empathy for their fellows, and an ability for rational planning that bordered on clairvoyance. Obviously the only reason we have no records of these magnificent beings is that after so many generations of being "Kids Today" our minds are simply to primitive and debauched to recognize them.
You know either that or young people as a whole have always tended to be just a bit immature, and older folks as a whole have always tended to be just a bit curmudgeony and overly eager to forget the more embarrassing aspects of their youth.
While I agree with some of the sentiment here,and found the post amusing as well,I don't see the overall issue as one of a steady decline from generation to generation.
If we take your cave man example,clearly there was a steady incline in human intelligence over many thousands of years,eventually leading up to the existence of "modern man".from that point on there has been an ebb and flow of intelligence,ages of extreme enlightenment,periods of less than brilliant moments and so on,
However,when examining the current crop of "kids these days",it appears ,to me at least, that it's a period of decline,sure past generations of kids did alot of stupid things,but this seems to me to be the first modern generation to genuinely embrace and glorify stupidity to the point of idolization of the moronic.
...of course ,I am a curmudgeony old guy....so I could be wrong.
There is something hilariously fantastic about every last bit of this though. Behaviour isn't something that just magically happens. The majority of it is learned, with a (small to moderate) amount of genetic influence. Thus the corollary to the argument "each generation of kids gets worse" would actually be that "each generation of parents keeps fething them up in more and more creative a way." Alternatively, to go with the corollary to your argument, FITZZ, would be that this generation of parents has allowed them to genuinely embrace and glorify stupidity.
Chongara wrote:You know, given how each generation of "Kids Today" has consistently been the most ignorant, lazy, respectful, immoral, stubborn, reckless, tasteless and stupid ever to live, I'm shocked the human race is still functioning. For all that has changed over the thousands of years of recorded history the unfailing sign of declining civilization in the form of "Kids Today" has been very consistent.
In fact given where we are today I can only assume the whole "Cave Man" thing is a myth. After all since "Kids Today" have always been just the worst generation to date, it stands to reason that each previous generation was better. It seems to be the logical conclusion then, that the people of prehistory were some kind of transcendent super beings, that were nigh-immortal masters of every possible discipline, each able to do the work of 10,000 modern humans.They must have unending empathy for their fellows, and an ability for rational planning that bordered on clairvoyance. Obviously the only reason we have no records of these magnificent beings is that after so many generations of being "Kids Today" our minds are simply to primitive and debauched to recognize them.
You know either that or young people as a whole have always tended to be just a bit immature, and older folks as a whole have always tended to be just a bit curmudgeony and overly eager to forget the more embarrassing aspects of their youth.
While I agree with some of the sentiment here,and found the post amusing as well,I don't see the overall issue as one of a steady decline from generation to generation.
If we take your cave man example,clearly there was a steady incline in human intelligence over many thousands of years,eventually leading up to the existence of "modern man".from that point on there has been an ebb and flow of intelligence,ages of extreme enlightenment,periods of less than brilliant moments and so on,
However,when examining the current crop of "kids these days",it appears ,to me at least, that it's a period of decline,sure past generations of kids did alot of stupid things,but this seems to me to be the first modern generation to genuinely embrace and glorify stupidity to the point of idolization of the moronic.
...of course ,I am a curmudgeony old guy....so I could be wrong.
There is something hilariously fantastic about every last bit of this though. Behaviour isn't something that just magically happens. The majority of it is learned, with a (small to moderate) amount of genetic influence. Thus the corollary to the argument "each generation of kids gets worse" would actually be that "each generation of parents keeps fething them up in more and more creative a way." Alternatively, to go with the corollary to your argument, FITZZ, would be that this generation of parents has allowed them to genuinely embrace and glorify stupidity.
Also, I blame TV.
See, I will wholeheartedly agree that previous generations of parents by and large have been tremendous failures at raising their offspring,particularly in the last 15-20 years,between either being to "busy" to become actively involved in their children's life or being so involved they attempt to shield their offspring from every possible adversity/trauma and encase them in psychological bubble wrap...it's no wonder kids are so fethed up.
Can't do that...in fact,in many areas even spanking your children can get you a visit from Child Welfare.
It often amuses me that to a certain degree parents hands become tied in disciplining their children,yet there is always some public outcry concerning "out of control" kids.
I in no way advocate the abuse of children,but I do advocate a good swat on their backsides when they need it.
Can't do that...in fact,in many areas even spanking your children can get you a visit from Child Welfare.
It often amuses me that to a certain degree parents hands become tied in disciplining their children,yet there is always some public outcry concerning "out of control" kids.
I in no way advocate the abuse of children,but I do advocate a good swat on their backsides when they need it.
Can't do that...in fact,in many areas even spanking your children can get you a visit from Child Welfare.
It often amuses me that to a certain degree parents hands become tied in disciplining their children,yet there is always some public outcry concerning "out of control" kids.
I in no way advocate the abuse of children,but I do advocate a good swat on their backsides when they need it.
But think of the trauma!
Kids need a little trauma in their lives...it builds character.
Slarg232 wrote:People where I live are stupid, though I don't know if thats because people are stupid or if it's because I live in a small town.
I honestly don't know. But this one girl in my graduating class would tell everyone about how much she wanted to get raped. Why? I don't know....
"Forced submission/being dominated" fantasies are not in themselves indicative if "stupidity.",that's just a matter of "taste.",however...I suppose "telling everyone" about these fantasies could be seen as a bit off.
I'm going to agree with a few themes in this thread.
Hip hop blows, teenagers tend to be annoying (present company excluded of course, for the most part; you know who you are!) and it is possible for people of African American descent to be just as racist as their white counterparts.
Daleks.
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Soladrin wrote:but.. if you all the white people the world will collapse into disorder, corruption would be gone though....
Yeah, I mean, look at Africa. No corruption there!
Which obviously can't be true, because I'm currently helping a Nigerian Princess get her money out of her home country.
All throughout school I was a bizarre mix of Indy, Metal Head and Punk, with an interesting sideline in Goth.
Trendy bollocks can kiss my black ass.
Wait did you just name a bunch of trends and then say your not trendy?
Yeah, i read that and thought "this guy thinks he is awesome"
Cant you just.. wear your uniform and just.. you know.. exist?
You dont have to saunter around flaunting your rap/goth/punk sensibilities. Just do whatever floats your boat, i dont give a gak what anybody gets up to. There's no need to "look" like anything as far as im concerned.
All the fething.. "metal head punk goth" types seem to be desperately trying to fit in as I see it. Hence the predisposition to take alot of time and effort to create an "image" or dress like a freak show.
chowderhead13 wrote:My generation is rampant with the "Like" virus.
So, like, I was making out with this guy, and he totally, like, tried to feel me up?!? I was all like, "No way" and I left. It was, like, really scary.
From the mouth of my generation, to the ears of yours.
NOTE: I am a Freshman in High School.
That's gay. Everyone knows girls are icky.
It's wicked gay.
I actually got 3 hours of detention for slapping a kid for saying "That kid is so fething gay." Since when is gay a derogatory statement? My friend is gay, and I feel for him every time someone walks by him at schools, and laughs. (He's pretty open)
And sex is rampant at 14. I wonder how the gods have allowed no-one to get preggers.
Meh, I think around 70% of the time when someone says they've had sex or something like that they are just bragging. (I'm a freshman in high school as well)
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CadianXV wrote:Pff. We don't need no education.
We definitely need the education (Although our system is fethed up), but we sure as hell don't need the thought control, and I find that dark sarcasm in the classroom is quite fun on occasion.
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And there was this girl in my class that didn't know what accumulative meant. WTF what an idiot. This was an AP class!
I find myself having to dumb down my sentences on a regular basis. And me and my friends don't even care if we are insulted and crap like that for being nerds or Athiests or other stuff. (Nerds are the superior race!) We have never run into an instance where we were not quickly able to win an argument with one of the fething gaktarded prep girls or Jocks.
Slarg232 wrote:People where I live are stupid, though I don't know if thats because people are stupid or if it's because I live in a small town.
I honestly don't know. But this one girl in my graduating class would tell everyone about how much she wanted to get raped. Why? I don't know....
"Forced submission/being dominated" fantasies are not in themselves indicative if "stupidity.",that's just a matter of "taste.",however...I suppose "telling everyone" about these fantasies could be seen as a bit off.
I quoteth the same girl:
No, I am a vegetarian, but I am eating meat because it doesn't count as meat if you don't eat it at meals.
GalacticDefender wrote:
Kids these days are pretty stupid, and I know, because they are my peers. First of all, why the hell do so many people feel the need to get high? If you wan't to escape reality, just go pick up a stack of science fiction books from the bookstore.
Well, for one, the majority of sci-fi out there is utter crap. Secondly, I don't think you can compare something like a sci-fi or fantasy novel to a chemically induced high. It's a very, very different experience. And while I enjoy getting high with friends, I can't say that I like reading in groups (and trust me, I do read a fair bit, especially over the summer).
Also, new music (Except for a few new bands like maybe Cage The Elephant) mostly sucks, so why the hell do people listen to gak that isn't even music?
Every generation is like this, trust me. Older music may seem better, but that's only because anyone only ever remembers the stuff worth remembering. And the stuff worth remembering tends to either be really good, or really, really, really bad. And no one wants to play the bad stuff. There's plenty of good music out there, just don't expect to hear it on the Radio. Good music and popular music are not very familiar bedfellows.
Thankfully, with the advent of the internet, it's much easier to actually find that good stuff. And let me tell you, there is some crazy good stuff out there these days. Just look harder.
And there was this girl in my class that didn't know what accumulative meant. WTF what an idiot. This was an AP class!
And every single generation has their share of stupid gakkers.
I find myself having to dumb down my sentences on a regular basis.
I tend to be a fairly magniloquent speaker, and I never have to dumb down anything I say.
And me and my friends don't even care if we are insulted and crap like that for being nerds or Athiests or other stuff. (Nerds are the superior race!) We have never run into an instance where we were not quickly able to win an argument with one of the fething gaktarded prep girls or Jocks.
Who are you trying to convince?
I think you need to realize that although being smart is awesome, preaching to people who don't care isn't going to help your situation. If you've got greatness in you, you can keep it to yourself. People don't make fun of you for being smart, people make fun of you because smart is the only identity you are capable of assuming. Nothing wrong with being a nerd, but when a nerd is all you are, it makes for a pretty sad life.
Or you might just be a massive witch, who knows?
Now, since you're in highschool, where everyone still hasn't developed a strong identity yet and is thus trying to attach themselves to any sense of consistancy, even if it does mean arbitrarily conforming to the norms of others, this may be somewhat strange to understand, especially since I doubt you've seen The Breakfast Club, but a jock is not just a jock, and a nerd is not just a nerd. Or at least, they don't have to be. On one hand, sure, you can win an argument against a jock, but on the other? Why are you even in an argument? Why are you even trying to 'win' in the first place? Even if you make yourself seem smarter than them, you're doing so in a manner that alienates yourself and ends up with you sitting in the corner eating lunch alone. There doesn't need to be such a strict dichotomy between your social groups. You could even say that you're just as bad as the jocks that you and your friends so despise. Especially since I'm willing to bet that, secretly, you're jealous of them (and since most schools idolize sports events and pussy follows idols, I'm pretty damn sure of that bet too).
Now, there are a lot of stupid people out there. Enough to make you feel pretty bad about the world. But there are also a lot of people that don't ever get credit for their intelligence. Just because you fail to see someone's intelligence doesn't mean they don't have it.
GalacticDefender wrote:And there was this girl in my class that didn't know what accumulative meant. WTF what an idiot. This was an AP class!
Oh, the agony of being smarter than everyone else. The burden! Damn preps and jocks! You should be more like Ferris Bueller. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads — they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.
I have a question for you, poindexter. Can you kick my ass?
A lot of people complain about teenagers, but as one currently, I think if we just throw 'em out in the real world they'll either sink or swim, and hopefully natural selection (in the modern urban world terminology) does it's work.
Eh, but can we really complain? It's not like they're like this forever, let them have fun and all that before work, jobs, taxes, mortgages and etc. ruin it all.
And GalacticDefender, it's a sad, sad day when a nerd think's he'll EVER be the top of the food chain in High School, much less college (I say this as a nerd myself)
Every kid with a gym membership thinks he's a MMA fighter or a kickboxer these days.
No, he's actually a registered fighter. We don't really talk about his fighting much so I'm not sure exactly what league he's in, but as far as I know, he has no losses. I even recorded a video of him training once for a project. And at 22, I wouldn't really call him a kid either.
And as for my kickboxer friend, it's just what he does on the side. He's actually a swimmer (here's to hoping he gets into the olympics one day), but kickboxer sounds scarier.
Well come on, man! Also, registered with whom? There's a lot of carnies out there calling their gyms "dojos" now to get people in there so they can be the next Brock Lesner. It's like the photography studios that trick people into buying expensive photo packages in the hope of winning a modeling contract for their kids.
Fafnir wrote:
No, he's actually a registered fighter.
Registration doesn't mean anything beyond that a certain gym has you on its roll of fighters, which basically means everyone that attends regularly who isn't woefully out of shape.
If he doesn't have a contract, then he probably isn't any good.
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Monster Rain wrote:Ah christ.
Every kid with a gym membership thinks he's a MMA fighter or a kickboxer these days.
Its pretty ridiculous. Back when I was still working at a gym, the lines at heavy bags and other such equipment were ridiculous, and filled with people who had no idea what they were doing; more so than the lines for most other gym equipment.
I cannot agree more with this thread. It absolutely makes me wonder why the hell do we even try to do anything? I mean seriously! My generation is basically a bunch of perverted masterminded, racist, foul mouthed rapists!
It sounds stupid as hell what kids write to each other! Not to mention the fact that every bloody day I go to school i see a teenage couple swearing like crazy. I really hate todays kids. Because it has gotten progressively worse. But heres my contradiction. Doesn't every generation say the exact same thing? I am a 16 year old Guy who literally is freaked out when I see a 7 year old girl with a cell phone.
My parents have taught me discipline. Hell they believe it so much I was sent to a camp and was trained to obey and that is perfectly legal.
IT just really matters how you raise your kids. Techincally all you have to do is just tell your kids to obey and be thoughtful, and follow basic principles. OF course i might just be because i am in the scouts, and I hold on tight to my honors and such, but I make up for the failures of my friends by being a good person. Also the biggest gripe i have is the like syndrome, or the so-called stalkers. I believe my generation is wierd and stupid but other than that, it is just a thing that happens all the time. Every generation hates the generations below it.
Monster Rain wrote:Well come on, man! Also, registered with whom? There's a lot of carnies out there calling their gyms "dojos" now to get people in there so they can be the next Brock Lesner. It's like the photography studios that trick people into buying expensive photo packages in the hope of winning a modeling contract for their kids.
Well, considering the location, I'd imagine he's probably registered with the MFC. I don't actually watch MMA (or any sport) or discuss it with him. I don't know if he's under any contract or anything (doubtful, since he's still in University, obviously), and from what google can tell me, he's only showed up on Top MMA news 3 times. Really, I'm the last guy to actually talk about his MMA career with, since I pretty much couldn't care less about the sport.
The point is, he's one of those people on my list of really scary people that got my back in any physical altercation.
I saw a news article that basically stated that nearly 1/4th of people who take military entrance exams in the US, that are of the "currently in, or under 1 year removed from High School" category (read, 16-18 years old) fail the test. The military doesnt really change its tests all that often, and being that i took it, and got a pretty damn good job in the army, its not a hard test at all.
The education system is failing, and i blame a few people for that: congress and government for taking funding away from schools; Rap Music, and all of its promoters; and Parents.
Socially we really are on a decline. With the popularity of rap "music" and a lack of proper parenting, especially with so many single parent, raised by women "boys" there are, its no wonder things are becoming progressively worse. Government loves to blame the video game industry, but its really more the things ive already mentioned
Also, starting next school year, the state of Oregon will allow Spell check to be used on its state exams, how dumb do we need people to be?
I really doubt it has anything to do with rap music. It could be the lifestyle promoted by the idols that the music creates, but I doubt the music itself will make you any dumber.
Fafnir wrote:I really doubt it has anything to do with rap music. It could be the lifestyle promoted by the idols that the music creates, but I doubt the music itself will make you any dumber.
yeah, i can agree that it is largely the "idols" that affect people, but if you really listen to the content, or read the lyrics, you will see that its full of hate(especially towards particular groups of people), promotes illegal and illicit activity, and is generally derogatory and is geared towards people of lower intelligence levels.
Now, i DO realize that hate is not limited to one particular genre of music, however i have not found too many successful music groups in any other genre that hate one particular group of people over another. There are many musicians out there who will base albums off of a piece of Literature (Mastodon's album "Leviathan" is based off of the book "Moby Dick")
What i wanted to convey as my main points, was that its parents who are most "at fault" for how the more current generations seem, by and large to be getting more and more stupid.
Interestingly, many cognitive psychologists (including quite a few eminent ones, like Steven Pinker) have exactly the opposite to say about succeeding generations.
To take your spell-check example: imagine how much more useful information you could contain in your mind (as there is a finite limit) if you didn't have to worry so much about spelling a word correctly. I mean really, being able to spell correctly, without aid, has almost nothing to do with possessing a significant intellect; its merely something we've come to accept, culturally, as a sign of such things.
To put it another way: No one in their right mind would hire someone because they won numerous spelling bees. Well, not unless they were in need of a professional speller of some sort.
That said, I do think that Americans seem to be getting less knowledgeable, and many tests and survey have shown that they are, on average, less knowledgeable than their Western peers. Its easy to blame this on parents, but the problem is likely larger than that. After all, parents don't act in a vacuum. It seems to me that the issue is tightly related to geographic isolation (for all its cosmopolitan cities, many (most?) Americans are unlikely to interact with people from other nations), and a culture of entitlement that extends from the general notion that America is supposedly the best at everything by reason of being America.
Ill tell you what's wrong with MMA and people learning to fight mate, alcohol is legal and frequently used.
Oh sure its all for 'keeping fit' and 'self improvement' until Tommy big balls gets ten pints down his neck, then its massive chip on my shoulder start some chew in the kebab shop for no reason.
I decided a very long time ago that people who are "in to" MMA are dicks, I stand by my somewhat unfair blanket decision.
Boxing is a great sport, MMA seems to be what all the chislers have a hard in for!
Amaya wrote:Aside from the fact that annoying Tap Out shirts are fething everywhere, what's wrong with people getting into MMA and learning to fight?
Because there are people who do it incorrectly and in an unsafe manner that can end up hurting themselves or others. Actually, I'm pretty sure there was a recent case where some kid died because him and a friend were imitating MMA fights.
There's a big difference between someone with a dedicated knowledge jujitsu/mauythai/kickboxing/wrestling fighting in a ring with constant trained moderation and medical staff on hand at all times. Where as there are strict rules in play, and fighters know the limits of their and their opponent's bodies within reason, amateurs have none of that.
There's nothing wrong with getting into it and learning it, but if you do, you need to do it properly. Randomly slugging out with others is bound to end badly.
mattyrm wrote: Oh sure its all for 'keeping fit' and 'self improvement' until Tommy big balls gets ten pints down his neck, then its massive chip on my shoulder start some chew in the kebab shop for no reason.
This. The last one I saw getting out of line had grabbed a chair from inside a kebab shop, and began destroying the glass door. Needless to say, I crossed the road...
They must of forgotten to give him that dodgy pink sauce I guess.
Fafnir wrote:I really doubt it has anything to do with rap music. It could be the lifestyle promoted by the idols that the music creates, but I doubt the music itself will make you any dumber.
yeah, i can agree that it is largely the "idols" that affect people, but if you really listen to the content, or read the lyrics, you will see that its full of hate(especially towards particular groups of people), promotes illegal and illicit activity, and is generally derogatory and is geared towards people of lower intelligence levels.
First off, you haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about. Secondly, the same has been said about Punk Rock, Rock and Roll, Blues, Metal - even Jazz. This moral panic is an age-old aspect of popular cultural discourse. Music is music - a form of cultural text which, like any other, is accommodating of disparate subjective readings. Its uses and functions vary from person-to-person. That's how culture works. I own rap records, and can enjoy them on their own terms. I am not of a lower level of intelligence. Actually, I would put it to you that it is YOU who lacks the intelligence to be sufficiently aware that such an essentialist reading of a textual form (not even a specific text!) is pretty much the worst thing one can do, in terms of the study of culture.
You are to musical insight what Sarah Palin is to political insight, simply put.
Now, i DO realize that hate is not limited to one particular genre of music, however i have not found too many successful music groups in any other genre that hate one particular group of people over another. There are many musicians out there who will base albums off of a piece of Literature (Mastodon's album "Leviathan" is based off of the book "Moby Dick")
I own a rap record as well mate, and i hate rap music.
Doggystyle by Snoop Doggy Dogg.
I thought it was cool when i was 15, now i think it is cool because the lyrics are actually hilarious. Here is a good one.
"Guess who is back in da mother fething house, with a fat dick fo ya mutha fething mouth"
Genius!
The funny part is, Snoop and all his mates are in on the joke. I remember googling "Warren G" and finding out that is he best mates with George Osbourne, likes playing tennis, and is related in some way to the Belgian nobility or something.
I lke to think that the whole thing is like some sort of cleverly orchestrated joke played on the kids who actually copy the rappers they see on TV.
Now, i DO realize that hate is not limited to one particular genre of music, however i have not found too many successful music groups in any other genre that hate one particular group of people over another. There are many musicians out there who will base albums off of a piece of Literature (Mastodon's album "Leviathan" is based off of the book "Moby Dick")
So what?
Yeah, I'm fairly lost on this guy's point too.
And as for lyrics full of hate? Morrissey's been doing that for over 30 years now and his music is some of the smartest in the business. Hell, everyone's been doing that since forever. You know what they say, Noise is the Best Revenge. Or maybe I just like Morrissey a bit too much...
And basing music off of classic literature? Once again, everyone and their dog. And in the case of your example, it's not that smart either. Paraphrasing what happens in a book doesn't make a song any smarter than if it were about "cappin' [see forum posting rules] and fuckin' bitches." It's when you take the meanings of the inspiration and interpret it in a new way that applies to your own life.
And for the record, although I generally hate rap, I do have the soundtrack to Madworld on my hard drive. Good stuff.
GalacticDefender wrote:And there was this girl in my class that didn't know what accumulative meant. WTF what an idiot. This was an AP class!
Oh, the agony of being smarter than everyone else. The burden!
I have a question for you, poindexter. Can you kick my ass?
Well, personally, I don't fight. I just happen to be good friends with an MMA fighter, a kickboxer, and a random guy who happens to be 6'9".
Remember, it's not the (devilishly handsome) skinny white guy you have to watch out for. It's the guys behind him.
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Its the short guy, or the four guys in the late model Honda creeping by with the windows down.
Of the course the most dangerous is your average soccer mom in a minivan bebopping along. She'll run you over and not even know it. I know. I KNOW!!!
DUDE THIS THREAD GAVE ME CANCER
Seriously, I'm afraid to have televisions, computers, or electronics in my house lest my son/daughter turn out to be a hipster douchebag!
And I am totally sick of the MMA overload. now every guy has to be some tough-guy chest beating alpha-douche.
What is this world coming to?
Oh right.. idiocracy
Fafnir wrote:
Well, personally, I don't fight. I just happen to be good friends with an MMA fighter, a kickboxer, and a random guy who happens to be 6'9".
Remember, it's not the (devilishly handsome) skinny white guy you have to watch out for. It's the guys behind him.
Frazzled wrote:
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Its the short guy, or the four guys in the late model Honda creeping by with the windows down.
Of the course the most dangerous is your average soccer mom in a minivan bebopping along. She'll run you over and not even know it. I know. I KNOW!!!
Yeah this one. Short people are usually crazy dangerous. They're all vicious to make up for the fact that they're a foot shorter than everyone else. I had to find this out the hard way once. If your friends are where you run for your bravado though, and that works for you, great. I hope they're always there for you, and that the guy you piss off doesn't find you when they're not.
I don't know about MMA fighters or kickboxers, but I'm a fat guy who threw another fat guy over my shoulder once and I've seen Fight Club and the Matrix. Does that qualify for the Internet Tough Guy Club?
So from this thread we can conclude that hippety hop is laughable, teenagers are as a generalization idiots, cavemen where in fact experimenting with DNA technology, and the MMA is the source of all the worlds ills. Buts it's okay, because I have a solution.
Colanders. Electricity. A spoon. And I think you can see where I'm going with this.
Every kid with a gym membership thinks he's a MMA fighter or a kickboxer these days.
Not even that Im affraid. I worked at a drive in a few years back as "security" basically we walked around with a flash light and told people to shut their car lights off
Anywho one of the guys I worked with had a hugely fat ass of a brother who watched MMA and such. And he swore he was the toughest badass in the world, and he could kick anyones ass. He would say crap like that, and when Id chuckle at the thought he would instantly do the mean mug and start the "well you wanna find out or what?" which then made me laugh even more.
I almost love people like that, they make me smile
Fafnir wrote:
And as for lyrics full of hate? Morrissey's been doing that for over 30 years now and his music is some of the smartest in the business. Hell, everyone's been doing that since forever. You know what they say, Noise is the Best Revenge. Or maybe I just like Morrissey a bit too much...
I dont necessarily know who Morrissey is, but, when you listen to his music, does he target one specific group of individuals? But thats not really on topic, in this particular topic (however music was brought up within context) Though, looking at music through the years, especially in the 20th century, you notice how each generation's music inevitably is the "worst" ever seen, and is the root of all evil in whatever country. Perhaps the next step is truly the problem in society, in regards to music, The next "root of all evil" music style comes out, and the one before becomes normal or at least, not so bad as before, sort of a immunization and learned ignorance of 'lesser evils'
As for MMA, i couldnt agree more, one can just hope that it shows itself to be similar in nature to Parachute pants, a fad that will fade over time but will never quite truly die.
My bottom line though, is that the vast majority of social ills today, stems directly from parenting, or the lack thereof. So many folks today grow up in broken homes, with no true father figure to properly teach/discipline them while growing up. Not everyone raised solely by a mother/grandmother or other matriarchal figure turns out bad. But, without true parental figures to teach kids right from wrong down to minute details, naturally things in the larger scheme are going to degrade.
Ensis Ferrae wrote:
I dont necessarily know who Morrissey is, but, when you listen to his music, does he target one specific group of individuals?
Yeah. Northern fans.
And Margaret Thatcher. And Mike Joyce. And Andy Rourke. And George W. Bush (but who doesn't?). And his parents. And Elton John. And Madonna. And Robert Smith. And fat chicks. And people who dress poorly. And people who eat meat (although we like to forget about that song). And DJ's. And the Royal Family. Especially the Royal Family. And Oliver Cromwell. And women in general. And Managers.
Kids today are not stupid as a whole, and generations are not getting slowly worse. There is certainly a larger variation in intelligence, with the smarter people getting much smarter, and the dumb people becoming more so, but people don't seem to notice the smart people do they?
And don't forget that a large amount of the problems with children these days are due to parents not taking resposibility for their children, an example is the programmes on BBC3 where they take badly behaved kids, send them to live with parents who are incredibly strict, and suddenly, miraculously they start doing as they are told!?! :O
And hey, maybe some of us don't try anything because we believe that there isn't anything that we can do about the economy because the last generation screwed it up?!
Just a thought..
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Samus_aran115 wrote:LOL, 15 or 16? People my age are that stupid?
Yes... yes they are.
But then... there is a reason for this.
Picture the "average" dumb person in your mind...
realize now that "half the population" is dumber and be affraid
That's a fallacious argument.
You've taken an average dumb person, and then half of the overall population.
Your example would work if you took half the dumb people, but then that wouldn't make it seem like the end of the world though would it?
Well, EVERYONE hates on Maggie. Seriously though, there's a lot of bands that portray hateful, foul, or otherwise "bad" lyrics. The thing is that there was always a level of, well, for lack of a better word, class, about them. Let us take "Boyz in the Da Hood", which is of the old school by comparison to modern day standards:
Morrissey is a spiteful, bitter little man, which I understand and appreciate, but he operates within constraints. Rap isn't about music or a message, it's about 'shock value'. That's why it seems to get more and more out of hand. Each generation has to outdo the next.
Goliath wrote:And hey, maybe some of us don't try anything because we believe that there isn't anything that we can do about the economy because the last generation screwed it up?!
Just a thought..
That attitude sums up the problem perfectly, actually.
Samus_aran115 wrote:LOL, 15 or 16? People my age are that stupid?
Yes... yes they are.
But then... there is a reason for this.
Picture the "average" dumb person in your mind...
realize now that "half the population" is dumber and be affraid
That's a fallacious argument.
You've taken an average dumb person, and then half of the overall population.
Your example would work if you took half the dumb people, but then that wouldn't make it seem like the end of the world though would it?
Wait, what? I thought this was the Morrissey thread.
I think what he's saying in this particular case is that if you take the "average" person (let us call him Fred) who is at the 50% mark for an arbitrary degree of intelligence (because there are tests for that, and highly accurate, after all), then you consider the phenomenon of how 100% of the people in the world consider average people to be dull or otherwise stupid, and then finally apply it to Fred, you'll find that half the world is even less intelligent than the already knuckdragging average caveman, I mean Fred.
Honestly, I say we're all slowed. It's just fun to hate on the youngsters because they get the most indigent about it.
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Mannahnin wrote:Rap or hip hop is a genre and a style. Not everyone performing it focuses on shock value, any more than every rock musician is Alice Cooper.
Mannahnin wrote:Rap or hip hop is a genre and a style. Not everyone performing it focuses on shock value, any more than every rock musician is Alice Cooper.
Wow. Well done sir. You managed to find an exception with a message I can't possibly disagree with.
Thanks! That's probably the first rap song I ever enjoyed, and it always comes to mind whenever this point of contention is raised. I loved the movie as a teenager, obviously, and I've always been a big fan of the First Amendment.
Read the sig guys, it's all in there. (Well, apart from the bit about painting targets).
And this from the guy who teachers the little jerks. (And was recently pretty badly harassed by a gang of them on the train, to the point that I reported it to the police).
While i do agree that their are A LOT of incredibly stupid people in the "Y" generation their are also a lot of nicer, open and brighter people/children.
While i do agree that their are A LOT of incredibly stupid people in the "Y" generation their are also a lot of nicer, open and brighter people/children.
It's funny, because the first post on that website is relating to a divorced couple, who I'm fairly sure aren't 16.
Morrissey and MMA are both awesome and not related to kids today. It's not really about the kids, just the inevitable result of left politics mollycoddling the population into idiocy.
Left (or right) politics have nothing to do with it. If anything, it's general prosperity and ubiquitous access to cheap, easy entertainment, which reduce the need for people to work hard and improve their minds.
That and Da Boss' sig. Or this classic:
“Our earth is degenerate in these latter days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching,” attributed to an Assyrian stone tablet of about 2800 B.C.—William L. Patty and Louise S. Johnson, Personality and Adjustment, p. 277 (1953).
Mannahnin wrote:Left (or right) politics have nothing to do with it. If anything, it's general prosperity and ubiquitous access to cheap, easy entertainment, which reduce the need for people to work hard and improve their minds.
That and Da Boss' sig. Or this classic:
“Our earth is degenerate in these latter days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching,” attributed to an Assyrian stone tablet of about 2800 B.C.—William L. Patty and Louise S. Johnson, Personality and Adjustment, p. 277 (1953).
Generation are defined by those who decide to be different so most of the kids who rebel are the assumed posterchildren of that generation. Most of the kids of any generation are mild mannered but they don't stand out at all so they aren't noticed.
My generation is known for being technologically inclined, lazy, rude, and overall unintelligent.
I know how to use computers, spent my holiday breaking up and pouring concrete for a family friend(yes I am getting paid, but its below minimum wage), I hold the door open for people, and I am an elderly lady's friend because we both think Teddy Roosevelt was the best president ever of all times.
People like me won't get noticed, but those stupid 'scene-kids' who put holes the size of a dinner plate in their ears, cut half their hair and spike the other half, wear tight skinny jeans, drink when their 14, have sex in middle school, think sex is less intimate than kissing, and hang around being miscreants and degenerates are going to define my generation. That just ticks me off.
Comfort yourself with the thought that no one talks about Generation X at all nowadays. I'm at the tail end of that, and come to think of it, I'm perfectly happy no one talks about us anymore.
Do I need to go on YouTube and find a bunch of older people saying dumb crap now?
Ofc stupid peers (and they are peers to me) are frustrating... at Uni I can't tell you how frustrated some of the things my coursemates have said have made me feel (I do history and hearing a girl say "OH WOW, I DIDN'T KNOW VIETNAM WAS DURING THE COLD WAR" doesn't exactly bring me warm feelings) but I am sure I can hop onto the Tubes and find numerous examples to prove that the inbred and slowed are just as present amongst other generations as my own: We here at merry Dakka are simply fortunate that Warhammer totally attracts those with superior IQs, amirite?
Henners91 wrote: (I do history and hearing a girl say "OH WOW, I DIDN'T KNOW VIETNAM WAS DURING THE COLD WAR" doesn't exactly bring me warm feelings) but I am sure I can hop onto the Tubes and find numerous examples to prove that the inbred and slowed are just as present amongst other generations as my own: We here at merry Dakka are simply fortunate that Warhammer totally attracts those with superior IQs, amirite?
I didn't know that, though I don't exactly like history.....
Henners91 wrote:Do I need to go on YouTube and find a bunch of older people saying dumb crap now?
Ofc stupid peers (and they are peers to me) are frustrating... at Uni I can't tell you how frustrated some of the things my coursemates have said have made me feel (I do history and hearing a girl say "OH WOW, I DIDN'T KNOW VIETNAM WAS DURING THE COLD WAR" doesn't exactly bring me warm feelings) but I am sure I can hop onto the Tubes and find numerous examples to prove that the inbred and slowed are just as present amongst other generations as my own: We here at merry Dakka are simply fortunate that Warhammer totally attracts those with superior IQs, amirite?
Meh. I've heard stupider, ever been to a cheer-leading practice and then walk out immediately after your suspicions have been confirmed. Yes they are bunch of idiots.
Kids Today. Hmm, Its Scary to think that I will be turning 17, and one of the few of my age group to actually not of had a girlfriend. Yes, the age groups of dating has gone down into 6th grade.
I thought vietnam was during the 80s. Rambo and Red Dawn came out in the same year man. Duh!
Fafnir wrote:
daedalus wrote:
Ensis Ferrae wrote:
I dont necessarily know who Morrissey is, but, when you listen to his music, does he target one specific group of individuals?
Yeah. Northern fans.
And Margaret Thatcher. And Mike Joyce. And Andy Rourke. And George W. Bush (but who doesn't?). And his parents. And Elton John. And Madonna. And Robert Smith. And fat chicks. And people who dress poorly. And people who eat meat (although we like to forget about that song). And DJ's. And the Royal Family. Especially the Royal Family. And Oliver Cromwell. And women in general. And Managers.
Seriously, his music is fething spiteful.
the guitarist was good... but your list of 'spite' sounds like the grievances of an angry fashion consultant in a gay bar. Not the kind of 'spite' I hear in other non-wimpy music that has just an ounce of testosterone in it. The smiths did have a good guitarist though.
Slarg232 wrote:
Henners91 wrote: (I do history and hearing a girl say "OH WOW, I DIDN'T KNOW VIETNAM WAS DURING THE COLD WAR" doesn't exactly bring me warm feelings) but I am sure I can hop onto the Tubes and find numerous examples to prove that the inbred and slowed are just as present amongst other generations as my own: We here at merry Dakka are simply fortunate that Warhammer totally attracts those with superior IQs, amirite?
I didn't know that, though I don't exactly like history.....
hence the problem, right? sorry bud, you don't have to like history, it happens. One day the emo pants will go in the photo gallery of shame next to uncle bob's mullet from the 80s too, and we will remember PCs as those old things our grandparents used before they had telepathy chips. Stupid millenia generation.
Henners91 wrote:Do I need to go on YouTube and find a bunch of older people saying dumb crap now?
Ofc stupid peers (and they are peers to me) are frustrating... at Uni I can't tell you how frustrated some of the things my coursemates have said have made me feel (I do history and hearing a girl say "OH WOW, I DIDN'T KNOW VIETNAM WAS DURING THE COLD WAR" doesn't exactly bring me warm feelings) but I am sure I can hop onto the Tubes and find numerous examples to prove that the inbred and slowed are just as present amongst other generations as my own: We here at merry Dakka are simply fortunate that Warhammer totally attracts those with superior IQs, amirite?
Meh. I've heard stupider, ever been to a cheer-leading practice and then walk out immediately after your suspicions have been confirmed. Yes they are bunch of idiots.
Kids Today. Hmm, Its Scary to think that I will be turning 17, and one of the few of my age group to actually not of had a girlfriend. Yes, the age groups of dating has gone down into 6th grade.
Depends on how you define gf really... but yes, is quite worrying especially given the average age at which people tend to lose a certain thing...
I'll be 18 in March, and most of my friends have had a girlfriend (some have even, ya know, done it); I haven't had a girlfriend or a boyfriend (in fact the majority of both genders are repulsed by me, which is why more of my friends haven't had a partner/had sex; I don't exactly have a large group of friends to begin with). I can't take my alcohol (tried twice and I tend to blow chunks after the third lager, anything stronger than lager tastes revolting). I'm religious. I treat people of other religions, backgrounds etc. equally. I am willing to work (i've spent the last 6 months working for free) and learn.
My brother is 16 in July. He has had umpteen girlfriends. He hasn't had sex but obviously sees it as something to brag about and has glorified it to the same level that he has glorified alcohol, where if you're not having it then there's something wrong with you. He is an atheist and believes all religion is bull****. He is intolerant of anyone who is different, be it a different race or different sexual orientation or anything else. The concept of work is alien to him, and he is reluctant to learn.
The majority of people of his age group that I have met have shared these beliefs, if only a few (notably the alcohol and sex); those of my age group also glorify alcohola dns ex, although not nearly to the same degree, and are all far more tolerant of others.
Whilst these obviously cannot speak for the entirety of today's youth, it does speak for the chunk that I have experienced.
yeah religion will do that for you. Is your atheist brother with so many GFs who still hasnt had with no socio/religious pressure about morals just happen to be horribly deformed? Or just a really bad liar about one side or the other of that equation? oh yeah, don't worry about the booze thing. they call it 'tolerance' for a reason. You don't step into the game with 1000000 experience points.
Heh, at age 19 and in a similar situation to you... all that worries me is becoming complacent and/or no longer becoming proactive in seeking that special someone
Ofc that's hard to do if you're a bigger lightweight than Tweety Pie ...That tends to lead to either embarassing incidents or a bunch o' tagged pics on the old Facebook in which my eyes look off-centre somehow.
Personally, though, I still attach strong importance to it: I think our generation definitely has an embedded principle that it's some rite of passage (too much American Pie?) or that one isn't a normal human being if they don't manage it by 21... In honest I don't think my teenage self would be able to believe that I'd gone *this* long...
yeenoghu wrote:yeah religion will do that for you. Is your atheist friend with so many GFs who still hasnt had sex by 18 and with no socio/religious pressure about morals just happen to be horribly deformed? Or just a really bad liar about one side or the other of that equation?
He's my brother, not a friend; making it all the worse.
As for deformation; part of me wants to say he's butt ugly, but that would be a biased opinion (heavily biased). Feelings aside, I wouldn't say he has any deformations I know of.
Lies are also possible with him, but nobody knows for sure; he manages to lie about nearly everything AND get away with it, with multiple people multiple times. He also rarely gets caught.
The only things he doesn't think are a necessity are smoking and illegal drugs.
For the record, I don't think this generation is any worse or better than the ones preceding it.
I just found a funny conversation on facebook and wanted to share it because I love you (plural). I might just be saying that so that I can sleep with you (plural), mind.
I don't find the need to spank my children very often (anymore),more often than not "The look" gets them to fall in line pretty quickly.
Damn preps and jocks! You should be more like Ferris Bueller. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads — they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.
