Greetings my easily misguided future slaves, whose torture and soul-searing agony will keep my kabal entertained endlessly, and our skin pale, creamy, and vibrant with the raw terror you shake with upon contemplation of the Maleficarum standing before you.
I’ve long had nothing but contempt for all Astartes, and the rise of Space Wolves as a dominant force among Space Marine players has been the result of many snorts of laughter amongst our inner circle. Unimaginative as your pseudo-species of Frankenstein assemblies are, Space Mongrels hold a special place of humour in my black heart. What other legion could be so easily misguided to betray the Imperium and destroy the Emperor’s most loyal servants at but a word of a treacherous son? What other legion could be counted on to not have the intelligence to question the value of their actions? Stupid and unintelligent at best, traitorous to mankind at worst, these hypocritical, superstitious, and inept servants of Chaos designed to kill their brethren are my favorite target for both verbal sparring and for killing.
And why should that ingrained lack of imagination and innovation inherently bred into each and every Space Wolf reflect differently in any other facet of their mangy existence? Every army list is as unoriginal as the last – uninspiring and unimaginative, as if each skold gothi has a virtual replica of forces to wield.
Who doesn’t expect several units of mongrels toting missile launchers to cower in the backfield and snipe at transports? Who doesn’t expect one or several hyped up gothi elevated to priest status exercising the same wyrd that they condemn their brethren for? Minimal variance to account for the inclusion of lonewolves, Thunderwolf Cavalry, or vehicle spam as the personal philosophy of each dictates…but at the end of the day, it is the difference of icing on the cake, without substantive change.
And that, my subhuman mongrel pets, is the foundation of my lack of respect for the ineptitude of your murder-make. Your skjalds recite the memories of your mongrels against inferior foes. Against enemies without the advantages bred into the petri dishes of your polluted genes. Against an intelligent foe, you crumble. When your wyrd is matched against the tenacity of any of the superior lifeforms you arrogantly dismiss as Xenos, entire complements of your warriors sleep on red snow.
It is not arrogance for my race to claim superiority over yours, to dismiss your combat abilities, and cackle in glee that you remain imagined as faithful to the Emperor, when you have been the catalyst for ten thousand years of strife. It is simple fact. Space Wolves are inferior in every way. Every time these superstitious hypocrites take the field against me, my army half-sleeps its way through victory against them.
So there it is. I expect your feeble forces to quail before mine. Bowed in terror and humbled before your worst fears manifested in physical form: Dark Eldar. Are there any out there who would be willing to champion the cowed mongrel dogs and attempt to demonstrate that the puppies are *not* all cookie-cutter replicas of inferiority, and that they *do* have some fighting ability?
The whiskey challenge is Thursday night, the night before the Nova Invitational. Are there any out there whose tails won’t tuck between their legs as they flee the Maleficarum? I challenge all puppies, everywhere – prove to me that you aren’t the whimpering cowards that I know you are. Prove to me that Dark Eldar don’t drink Mjold better than the Wolves of Fenris. Instead of a whiskey challenge, we can call it the mjold challenge. Prove to me that every battle with Wolves isn’t a lesson in humiliation waiting for them.
Probably because the entire OP post is nothing but troll bait. Fancy worded and creatively thought out, but troll bait none the less.
At a tourniment like the Nova, people bring what they think will win. At least the wolves have a few options of slightly different lists to bring. Just be thankful the OP didn't ask that the Tau leave all their Broadsides at home. You know, just to spice stuff up.
Jayden63 wrote:
At least the wolves have a few options of slightly different lists to bring. Just be thankful the OP didn't ask that the Tau leave all their Broadsides at home. You know, just to spice stuff up.
I'm afraid you misunderstand. I don't want someone to bring a nonconformist SW list. I want someone to bring their nastiest (which is cookie-cutter at this point) Space Wolves, so that I can demonstrate that even their best efforts are inadequate.
Devastator: I don't have a cookie-cutter venom list, and my list is constantly changing. In fact, what I ran at the last tournament will be different than what I run at the next - not enough wyches, and I'm contemplating adding scourges.
Probably because the entire OP post is nothing but troll bait. Fancy worded and creatively thought out, but troll bait none the less.
At a tourniment like the Nova, people bring what they think will win. At least the wolves have a few options of slightly different lists to bring. Just be thankful the OP didn't ask that the Tau leave all their Broadsides at home. You know, just to spice stuff up.
I've played Tau for 4 years and never used Broadsides
The OP is right though. There's always the same list for Wolves.
Starting to see Blood Anges all doing the same thing now take assault marines remove jetpacks get a cheap razorback and arm with assualt cannons repeat repeat etc
battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Dash, what will you do if someone brings a totally different Wolves list and beats you?
inb4 that won't happen. Its a what-if
I would be most grateful of a humiliation; it would change the tone of my derision. I've been advocating for a while now that 40k is rock/paper/scissor with Space Wolves being the Rock, Mech IG being the Scissors, and Dark Eldar being the paper. I haven't met with much agreement on the paper/rock relationship, so I'm escalating my hypothesis to a public challenge for a public fight. I realize that BT/DA are going to change things up a bit, but I don't think anything changes about the core foundation of my belief: SW are sissies that fall over.
Everyone plays 40k for different reasons; mine is to assert my superiority, then attempt to be proven wrong.
So dumb. Nothing can beat the Space wolf codex, the internets told me so.
Also, I will do you one better, and challenge you at adepticon if you are coming up. Saturday night, after I finish playing 4 rounds of grueling fantasy. (which everyone knows is much more tactical and skillful than 40k)
I thought I already took it up And with no changes to my standard list. Hell I'll post it now and bring it in 8 months
Though my list is only cookie cutter in the sense that it uses 3 squads and does have some razorbacks in it. But hey, it's the internet. My list is the same as everyone else!
Oh, and 40k isn't rock/paper/scissor. If it was I wouldn't win regularly with Daemons, SW's, Orks, or Nids. And soon....All foot IG!!!!
Oh they're all horrible. I am most likely a piss poor player in a small pool of even worse players. And we only play kill points and don't use DoW deployments. I simply refuse to play anyone that runs IG because they are mean! But that's what makes me so good!
I love the internet! And I love you Timmah! So much love!
Dashofpepper wrote:
I've been advocating for a while now that 40k is rock/paper/scissor with Space Wolves being the Rock, Mech IG being the Scissors, and Dark Eldar being the paper.
Well damn, I must be wielding some pretty sharp scissors, because I've been cutting rocks in half since they hit the tables.
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RiTides wrote:Egad, fellas! Let's turn the heat down a notch.
Oh come on, all of Dash's challenge threads turn into flame wars that get locked.
By the way, Dash, did you ever get that game against Stelek?
To be completely fair, I think the Space Wolf codex is capable of the highest # of competitive builds, for example:
Loganwing
Razorback Spam
Wolfstar
Drop Pod Assault
Mechanized Assault (my variant, lots of kitted out grey hunter squads with some shooty support)
...are all viable builds out of one codex. Of course, 90% of those builds include 2-3 squads of Long Fangs with missile launchers, but 90% of Ork lists include diversified Nob squads and 95% of Dark Eldar lists include 2-3 Ravagers, etc etc.
I'd take up the challenge dash, but my name means nothing in the 40k universe so I doubt I'd be eligible to play you in the Whiskey Challenge.
@Terminus: Yes he did, in last year's Whiskey Challenge against Stelek's Space Wolves
@Hulksmash: Your challenge....depends on who else offers. Are you even planning on bringing SW to the Nova Open with your copy of Mike's foot guard in the works? If there are such things, you're by bestest 40k bud, and while we can play each other whenever we want, I'd sort of prefer the challenge to be answered by someone who is righteously indignant at the scorn I heap upon their carcass of a codex.
@Griever: Do you beat face with your Space Wolves wherever you go? Definitely don't want to face off against a non-serious opponent. I'm not cataloguing you, just asking for more information.
Not trying to post a "Beat this list hurr durr" just that there are competitive non cookie cutter lists. We (My friend & I) plan on being at nova next year, registration filled up before we knew it this year.
I have not seen any non cookie cutter SW lists, when i read through the codex it was easy to see why. haha.
I must disagree about someone else's comment about BA, i do see lots of viarents among BA playes, razorback assault squad spam is common, but most of the BA players I play use a bunch of different lists. some units are the same (sang priests), but the ideas and concepts are very different.
penek wrote:any list with 3x5 ML marines who can shoot at 6 targets per turn will see devastating effect)
Seconded.
Shas'O Dorian, I've seen that list (quite close to it, but its missing a rune priest) used before, played against it...
If you take the Fenrisian wolves off the Lone Wolves, put the points into a rune priest instead, you've got a pretty stock SW list - instead of razorbacks, you're taking extra squads and fitting a Cyclone Missile Launcher in there to make up for it. Still nothing unusual.
Ah sorry, I don't have the funds to travel much but around here I have never seen that list run or anything like it among the 5 or 6 SW/BA (They swap on a daily basis) players.
Though my friend did say he wished he had room for a rune priest. Guess he must have seen it somewhere online & neglected to tell me
Dashofpepper wrote:Everyone plays 40k for different reasons; mine is to assert my superiority, then attempt to be proven wrong.
Erm...lol? Do you honestly wonder why 99% of your threads degrade into flame wars and then are subsequently locked when you post stuff like this? You must surely understand that this kind of talk aggravates people right? So why must you go out of your way to ellicit a reaction? I seriously think you need to deflate your ego a bit dude. Sure, you may be a good player and sure, you may have won tournaments here and there, but modesty is a virtue a lot of people can respect.
I also utterly, completely and irrevocably disagree with your theory that 40k is rock/paper/scissors, but thats such a volatile subject that I don't want to de-rail this...whatever it is we've got going here, for the sake of that arguement.
Annnnd back on topic: I don't live in the U.S. nor do I play SW so...whatever. GL to both you and your opponent I guess.
Fine buddy, you can play Reece He'll be bringing his pain list I'm sure and we all know your a scared of me I wasn't going to bring my SW's but I can always bring 2 armies with me. The wife is traveling so the other one is her carry-on
And I'll have you know it's not a copy of Mike's foot IG. I personally don't think Straken adds much to foot ig. But I did pillage and loot an entire thread on his forums for some of the better ideas. I start play testing here in the next few weeks.
Dashofpepper wrote:
No razorbacks or rhinos? Not cookie-cutter, but I wouldn't call it competitive either. =p
Ahaha well one day I will get a chance to play you, I wont defend this list since it needs no defense. I read your other post regarding people not liking getting roflstomp and I share the exact same mutual feeling with this list in the Pac NW.
I'm down to play if no one else steps up. Playing you on a real board would be nice instead of Vassal But I'd only bring the wolves if I was playing you. Otherwise I might bring 2 other army lists.
I should just get crazy and run my Footdar at the event! MVBrandt did say if I won with Footdar he'd double the prize support....
That would be epic if I won with them, though. Leavblower is just such a crappy match-up and I am sure to run into it at a tournament of this size and Caliber. Any other match-up doesn't worry me.
Reece and Hulk, I love you both to death, but neither of you are really emotionally invested in the idea of defending the honor of Space Wolves and becoming a polarizing force in their support. =p
Dashofpepper wrote:Reece and Hulk, I love you both to death, but neither of you are really emotionally invested in the idea of defending the honor of Space Wolves and becoming a polarizing force in their support. =p
Hahaha, yeah true! I could care less really, just wanted to have a fun, challenging game.
@Hulk
Yeah dude, total tough guy now!
Maybe I will rock the Footdar! I just won a tournament with them after not having played them in ages. I bet I'd surprise some folks. I just know I'd draw a triple manticore/hellhound list round 1! Haha, that would suck.
But honestly, I have never lost to IG with my Footdar, I've just never beat them, either!
I second the notion of Dash rematching against Stelek.
The first game wasn't decisive enough, play with full tournament attitude. (i.e. dont let him get away with forgetfulness "costing" you the game dash) Also ensure that all terrain is explained pre-game, as should be done anyway.
I think that this rematch would serve up the best chances for some lovely intarweb drama..errrrr......
Deadshane1 wrote:I second the notion of Dash rematching against Stelek.
The first game wasn't decisive enough, play with full tournament attitude. (i.e. dont let him get away with forgetfulness "costing" you the game dash) Also ensure that all terrain is explained pre-game, as should be done anyway.
I think that this rematch would serve up the best chances for some lovely intarweb drama..errrrr......
....I mean it would be interesting.
That would depend on a couple of things.
1. It depends on if he's going.
2. It depends on if he'll be in attendance for the Thursday night whiskey challenge
3. Most importantly, it would depend on him disagreeing with my hypothesis strongly enough to fire back. If he read the OP and agreed, he wouldn't be the right opponent for the job. I say Space Wolves suck - I need someone who is emotionally attached to the awesomeness of their Space Wolves to champion their cause.
Deadshane1 wrote:I second the notion of Dash rematching against Stelek.
The first game wasn't decisive enough, play with full tournament attitude. (i.e. dont let him get away with forgetfulness "costing" you the game dash) Also ensure that all terrain is explained pre-game, as should be done anyway.
I think that this rematch would serve up the best chances for some lovely intarweb drama..errrrr......
....I mean it would be interesting.
That would depend on a couple of things.
1. It depends on if he's going.
2. It depends on if he'll be in attendance for the Thursday night whiskey challenge
3. Most importantly, it would depend on him disagreeing with my hypothesis strongly enough to fire back. If he read the OP and agreed, he wouldn't be the right opponent for the job. I say Space Wolves suck - I need someone who is emotionally attached to the awesomeness of their Space Wolves to champion their cause.
You recall that this whole thing between you and Stelek happened in the first place because he said that Orks 'suck'.
You could've just said 'I say Space Wolves aren't as good as everyone thinks they are' or whatever. We know they don't out-right suck and that's where the complications begin...
Dashofpepper wrote: I say Space Wolves suck - I need someone who is emotionally attached to the awesomeness of their Space Wolves to champion their cause.
Looks like your dark eldar are making there way to your heart, casting out a line looking for the most vulnerable and thus tastiest soul, evil...
Hmm, I have to say that I'm a little skeptical of this "rock-paper-scissors" theory. Where does every other army fall on this table? Dark Eldar, Space Wolves, and Mech IG aren't the only armies that can compete, after all. Also, are you saying that mech IG is the only army that Dark Eldar has trouble with? That seems like a generally inaccurate assertion, as I think there are other armies that "hard counter" Dark Eldar far better than mech IG does. I have trouble seeing how most modern DE armies would win vs. a smart Black Templar dual-LR player with Blessed Hull in effect, for instance.
Fetterkey wrote:Hmm, I have to say that I'm a little skeptical of this "rock-paper-scissors" theory. Where does every other army fall on this table? Dark Eldar, Space Wolves, and Mech IG aren't the only armies that can compete, after all. Also, are you saying that mech IG is the only army that Dark Eldar has trouble with? That seems like a generally inaccurate assertion, as I think there are other armies that "hard counter" Dark Eldar far better than mech IG does. I have trouble seeing how most modern DE armies would win vs. a smart Black Templar dual-LR player with Blessed Hull in effect, for instance.
I don't consider other armies - because with few exceptions (like predator/razorback spam BA), I just don't see anything else standing toe to toe with me. I expect to see a resurgence of BT, and I expect my counter to be haywire grenade toting wyches. Given the FAQ for DE, I am going to have to shake up my fast attack a bit - my beasts are / were nice, and are still good, but not as awesome as they should have been; I'm pondering either heat lances or haywire blaster toting scourges - but until I sort out which, I'm going to have to settle for haywire grenade toting wyches....and using my superior mobility to block off the land raiders. If I drop a raider or a venom on all four sides of the land raider, 1" away, chances are that its neither going anywhere nor disgorging its passengers while I deal with everything else needing dealt with.
Don't get me wrong - there are other armies that can put up a fight (Mechdar, previously mentioned BA), but they don't put a sinking feeling in my heart like a Mech IG list does.
In terms of Necrons --> Orks --> Dark Eldar, that isn't the route; its gone Tau --> Orks --> Dark Eldar --> Necrons. The Necrons are next, they're just not ready to be fielded yet in terms of assembly.
Blackbone wrote:Sounds interesting - hoping to see some cool battle reports as usual.
Don't drink too much, it's bad for your liver-thing.
- Blackbone
No no no - that's an integral part of this challenge. Drinking of the Mjold - Fenrisian Grog. Actually, that disqualifies a rematch against Stelek because he doesn't drink. Whiskey / bourbon / etc. are a critical piece of this - A space wolf wouldn't let a skinny DE drink them under the table in something called a "WHISKEY CHALLENGE" would they?
Deadshane1 wrote:I second the notion of Dash rematching against Stelek.
The first game wasn't decisive enough, play with full tournament attitude. (i.e. dont let him get away with forgetfulness "costing" you the game dash) Also ensure that all terrain is explained pre-game, as should be done anyway.
I think that this rematch would serve up the best chances for some lovely intarweb drama..errrrr......
....I mean it would be interesting.
But i reckon it's never going to end up well again. Someone (often the losing side) will always come up with certain reasoning to say that the match wasn't fair enough.
A 'proper' match is never going to happen IMHO.
Thank you for your keen outlook on the army I have held closely for 20+ years. DE have there uses but against my Black Wolves they are but trash. Last Nova I battled and had my low points and high points. During that day I had the chance to play Stelek in the 4th round next to you and your opponent. His wolves bested mine that day and I had failed in my goal to face off aganst you the second day.
I see now that I have a chance to get in the game I so missed last year. My wolves have gone through many trials to get where they are and I know I can face off against the best of the best. I have not won any GT's so I shall not claim that but I have attended many and made it into the upper rankings many times. Many victories I have had in the local scene and many victories I have had in the GT scene. I play hard but not spam!
If it shall be I accept the challenge you have so arrogantly thrown down. And also take the challenge of the drink. For those who stand with the Black Wolves must be able to hold their drink. And may Leman Russ grant his favor! For he, we fight!
So, your saying that Wolves suck because they can't be competitive without being cookie cutter? Wouldn't that apply to most armies? I mean, sure they all have 3 squads of missles launcher long fangs. Ever seen orks without Nobs and/or Lootas? I haven't. Ever seen good DE without Raiders/Venoms? Exactly. If your going to say SW are bad because they rely on Long Fangs too much, then every army must also rely too much on one thing.
Don't get me wrong, I think people should expand their minds and be creative, but some people prefer not to take many risks.
I should say, that making a non cookie cutter Wolf list without vehicles is demanding, but can be done. The guy who won NOVA last year didn't have the most cookie cutter list IIRC. He had rhinos, yes. But no razorbacks. He also had Njal, which isn't typical. Was his list uncreative too? I don't know...
Blackbone wrote:Sounds interesting - hoping to see some cool battle reports as usual.
Don't drink too much, it's bad for your liver-thing.
- Blackbone
No no no - that's an integral part of this challenge. Drinking of the Mjold - Fenrisian Grog. Actually, that disqualifies a rematch against Stelek because he doesn't drink. Whiskey / bourbon / etc. are a critical piece of this - A space wolf wouldn't let a skinny DE drink them under the table in something called a "WHISKEY CHALLENGE" would they?
Sir you're lucky your in the US and not Uk or i'd be accepting this with open arms and a couple of bottles of scottish whiskey.
I do reckon you should check out http://www.bruichladdich.com/ very nice whiskey, i can reccommend most of it (even got a nip of the 40 year old stuff and it was lovely. here's hoping women are that great when their 40 too!
Dashofpepper wrote:
I don't consider other armies - because with few exceptions (like predator/razorback spam BA), I just don't see anything else standing toe to toe with me. I expect to see a resurgence of BT, and I expect my counter to be haywire grenade toting wyches. Given the FAQ for DE, I am going to have to shake up my fast attack a bit - my beasts are / were nice, and are still good, but not as awesome as they should have been; I'm pondering either heat lances or haywire blaster toting scourges - but until I sort out which, I'm going to have to settle for haywire grenade toting wyches....and using my superior mobility to block off the land raiders. If I drop a raider or a venom on all four sides of the land raider, 1" away, chances are that its neither going anywhere nor disgorging its passengers while I deal with everything else needing dealt with.
Don't get me wrong - there are other armies that can put up a fight (Mechdar, previously mentioned BA), but they don't put a sinking feeling in my heart like a Mech IG list does.
In terms of Necrons --> Orks --> Dark Eldar, that isn't the route; its gone Tau --> Orks --> Dark Eldar --> Necrons. The Necrons are next, they're just not ready to be fielded yet in terms of assembly.
I agree with what you said but also one of the things that really worry me is running into another DE mirror match. Where it becomes a question of how soon can you demech the other guy and key charges.
Mike Noble wrote:So, your saying that Wolves suck because they can't be competitive without being cookie cutter?
No, I'm saying that there's not a Space Wolf army in existence that I couldn't beat blindfolded with one army tied behind my back....because they're NOT ALL THAT.
Grimwulfe, you're on. Assemble the nastiest, ugliest, most rotten Spacepuppy list you can so that I can flay their skin and feast on their souls. I would encourage you to work on your liquor tolerance so that you can be standing at the end of our game; and depending on your level of confidence with your tournament list, I'd encourage you to talk to the sometimes hippie Hulksmash or the ever excellent Reecius for advice on how to bring pain in your tournament list.
I'm with Zid. There better be a batrep, Dash, and it better be up to your usual standards. No getting drunk before the game & forgetting to take pics! : )
Nice! Can't wait for the report. I've just had the pleasure of playing Grimwulfe in a tournament, and am looking forward to playing Dash at some point. This should be good!
Grimwulfe wrote:So be it Dash.. Death to the xeno scum!
I thought you should know that I've been thinking very hard about our upcoming fight to the death. I even started training tonight with a fifth of tequila. I will admit to being quite drunk at the moment; I started the fifth about an hour ago, and there's about 1/4 of a bottle left - I kept putting salt on my hand, taking a shot, and then taking a sip of lime juice. After every pot. And I had like 3 days of dishes to do.
So here's what's been on my mind. Do we do a shot after after phase? IE, 3 shots per player turn, 6 shots per game turn? That's definitely equal. Or.....do we do a shot after every casualty? Every model lost is a shot taken. My only concern here is that I'd be sober at the end of the night, and you'd be in the hospital with alcohol poisoning.
Then again, I'm not one to presume about a Space Wolves' ability to drink. You tell me what you prefer!
My suggestion would be, due to the very nature of this challenge and the fact that the dark eldar are set for disappointment that we use your first suggestion and take a shot a phase. I for one shall be boasting challenges during the match, which will increase our consumption and I am sure you shall as well. This way we may avoid any unnecessary trips to the medic.
May I also suggest a special drink that I shall provide if and when our heroes die, we shall drink from my horn in honor of fallen foes and remembered heroes!
Plenty shall be consumed and in time you shall know the true light of the Emperor’s finest. You shall learn to respect my brothers for our will shall be imposed and your demise is imminent.
My suggestion would be, due to the very nature of this challenge and the fact that the dark eldar are set for disappointment that we use your first suggestion and take a shot a phase. I for one shall be boasting challenges during the match, which will increase our consumption and I am sure you shall as well. This way we may avoid any unnecessary trips to the medic.
May I also suggest a special drink that I shall provide if and when our heroes die, we shall drink from my horn in honor of fallen foes and remembered heroes!
Plenty shall be consumed and in time you shall know the true light of the Emperor’s finest. You shall learn to respect my brothers for our will shall be imposed and your demise is imminent.
For Russ we fight! For the Emperor we live!
A shot per phase then. Unless you have a worthy substitute, I suggest a bottle of tequila; it gets tasty after a bit.
A shot per model casualty might be overdoing it - especially for the Space Wolves, when I expect you to have to drink to your entire lost army while I'm unfortunately sober. Speaking of boasting, challenges, I'll bet you pink slips on an HQ?
If you beat me, my beautifully painted Lelith Hesperax will accompany you as a pleasure girl along the rest of your travels. If I beat you, I drag whatever scruffy mutt you're using as an HQ back to Comorragh with me to torture for my pleasure.
Dash your xeno customs sicken me. Slaves are for the weak minded and frail. You may wish to sacrifice your leaders for pleasure but Wulfen brothers never leave a brother behind. We would die to the marine before we let your kind capture one of our own.
Boast as you will for in time you shall learn the true face of the Black Wolves. If a wager must be struck let us come to terms. A bottle of your choice and in return the same in the spirit of this challenge.
Grimwulfe wrote:Dash your xeno customs sicken me. Slaves are for the weak minded and frail. You may wish to sacrifice your leaders for pleasure but Wulfen brothers never leave a brother behind. We would die to the marine before we let your kind capture one of our own.
Boast as you will for in time you shall learn the true face of the Black Wolves. If a wager must be struck let us come to terms. A bottle of your choice and in return the same in the spirit of this challenge.
Ah, I don't blame you for being afraid of putting stakes on the ability of the worst smelling and least intelligent army in the Imperium's arsenal to not get slaughtered to the last. I should honestly capture an army of gretchin, cut off their hands, take away their guns, and throw them in the field with you to give your wretched army a fighting chance.
Dash, you've made 40k trash-talk an art form. This is probably the most entertaining thread I've read as a lurker or a poster . It helps that I do so enjoy deep-frying filthy half-animal heretics.
I don't find Pups (or most SM) all that challenging either. You kinda plan for them, even in all-comers lists. Footslogging 20-sister squads make a joke out of missile launchers, and Exorcists and DS Seraphim with melta-bombs absolutely love Razorbacks. Even with mech WH I've had success deploying Rhinos and reserving my Canoness, 2x Celestian squads with meltas, and DS'ing my Seraphim with melta-bombs. Flamer and heavy flamer Sister squads plus rapid-fire bolters with Divine Guidance? Puh-leaze!
Oh this thread is hilarious, in a good way Grimwulfe I'm behind you all the way bud, wolf-brothers stand together after all, though they may stand separated by many miles of ocean (read: 'The Pond').
Saying that, I'm no great player of 40k in general, I'm a casual gamer, hence me being 'behind' as opposed to 'next to' Good luck to the both of you! For the Wolftime (Couldn't resist sorry )
=I= White-Wolf wrote:Dash... Vaporise them and eat their souls in whatever you eat for breakfast, should be quite tasty me thinks
Oh, I'm not worried in the least.
The only way that Grimwulfe's Space Wolves could win would be if I were fielding an army loyal to the Emperor. I'm sure that they'd perform exceptionally well with the opportunity to further hinder the chances of mankind's survival in the galaxy. In fact, that's probably a decent means of making sure that Space Wolves do their best on the table. Have a pep talk with them before the game.
"Alright guys. That ____ army over there is on its way to Terra to warn the Emperor about a grave threat to humanity. We wouldn't be SPEHSS WOLVES if we didn't totally F**** them. I know Horus isn't around anymore, but I bet he's watching us from the warp with approval and besides, we have Abaddon's blessing."
Che-Vito wrote: And yet again another display of pseudo-machismo...over a tabletop game.
IF YOU ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE CONCEPT OF "TRASH TALK" IN SPORTS OR HOBBIES, YOU ARE MISSING OUT. -The Mgmt.
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Speaking of people who take themselves too seriously....when a mod has to step in and tell you that you "don't get it" don't you have to start wondering what you're missing out on?
Che-Vito, ignore that I'm the author of this thread. Re-read the OP, and the exchanges going on while paying no attention to who the authors are. Then come back and tell me if you don't see anything more than penis-wagging in here?
Hmmmm I agree strongly with my pointy eared, dark skinned brother. Space Wolfs are a weak chapter and should be removed from active service and exicuted for the lack of faith and there drunken behavior. Me playing the true loyalistical forces of Abbadon, true prince of all that Horus proudly stood for and represents. Facing these flea ridden, booze soaked, sponge headed mongels almost on a weekly basis, I dream of the day when the Space Wolfs are driven from the battle field forever. I fun thought if a bit grim, but we all must do are best to see to the demise of these pests with bolter and blade. Farwell my good friend Dash and may you and your kind bring pain and suffering upon all your enemies.
LordWynne wrote:Hmmmm I agree strongly with my pointy eared, dark skinned brother. Space Wolfs are a weak chapter and should be removed from active service and exicuted for the lack of faith and there drunken behavior. Me playing the true loyalistical forces of Abbadon, true prince of all that Horus proudly stood for and represents. Facing these flea ridden, booze soaked, sponge headed mongels almost on a weekly basis, I dream of the day when the Space Wolfs are driven from the battle field forever. I fun thought if a bit grim, but we all must do are best to see to the demise of these pests with bolter and blade. Farwell my good friend Dash and may you and your kind bring pain and suffering upon all your enemies.
Forget drinking and heresy the creation of the word 'loyalistical' should be have a capital punishment attached...
LordWynne wrote:Hmmmm I agree strongly with my pointy eared, dark skinned brother. Space Wolfs are a weak chapter and should be removed from active service and exicuted for the lack of faith and there drunken behavior. Me playing the true loyalistical forces of Abbadon, true prince of all that Horus proudly stood for and represents. Facing these flea ridden, booze soaked, sponge headed mongels almost on a weekly basis, I dream of the day when the Space Wolfs are driven from the battle field forever. I fun thought if a bit grim, but we all must do are best to see to the demise of these pests with bolter and blade. Farwell my good friend Dash and may you and your kind bring pain and suffering upon all your enemies.
Forget drinking and heresy the creation of the word 'loyalistical' should be have a capital punishment attached...
Lest you forget, the semi-useful sometimes admired servants of Chaos do whatever the hell they want, and there's not a damn thing that any loyalistical forces can do about it. Back to your strategeries!
LordWynne wrote:Hmmmm I agree strongly with my pointy eared, dark skinned brother. Space Wolfs are a weak chapter and should be removed from active service and exicuted for the lack of faith and there drunken behavior. Me playing the true loyalistical forces of Abbadon, true prince of all that Horus proudly stood for and represents. Facing these flea ridden, booze soaked, sponge headed mongels almost on a weekly basis, I dream of the day when the Space Wolfs are driven from the battle field forever. I fun thought if a bit grim, but we all must do are best to see to the demise of these pests with bolter and blade. Farwell my good friend Dash and may you and your kind bring pain and suffering upon all your enemies.
Forget drinking and heresy the creation of the word 'loyalistical' should be have a capital punishment attached...
Lest you forget, the semi-useful sometimes admired servants of Chaos do whatever the hell they want, and there's not a damn thing that any loyalistical forces can do about it. Back to your strategeries!
Strategeries? I'm a Space Wolf! We don't do strategeries we do charging and drinking sometimes at the same time.
I play SW, IG, Tyranids, Orks, and Eldar (well over the years I collected some models and when a lot of people quit they gave me their stuff) but my main 40K army was the Wolves. I played them for a few reasons. First and foremost they were the only marine codex back in 2nd edition that were not the generic marines. They had a flavor to them that made them different, and more interesting. Well, technically my first army was Tyranids, but then Marenous Calgar came out in 2nd edition and well, sort of pretty much destroyed my whole army. With his dual power fists, whatever parry ability he had, and a 2+ power field pretty much made him unstoppable.
Over the years I have played many different forms of army lists, and recently I just got back into it. So, my last games played were in 2nd edition. I guess I actually purchased the 3rd edition rules but we never played as I found the book in a box not too long ago. So for the past 4 months we have been playing fantasy and 40k, and so far I am undefeated. Not bragging really, because all of us haven't played in 15 years, plus there were games we got the rules wrong so that is also a factor.
I found this site and read through countless SW threads, and other races as well, brushing up on tactics. I see a lot of razorback and 6 man squads, and I see a lot of long fangs packs. I am sure this is very effecitve, and I do have the models to field almost all of that. I got rhinos, razors, land raiders, land speeders, and all that stuff from way back in the day that when I moved out of my parents house so many years ago I packed in their basement.
Almost every list of marines I looked at, be it any chapter, had a lot of razor back and 6 man squads. So, I don't really see that being exclusive to any marine chapter. I see similar lists with Edlar and their transports. My last 2,000 point list was roughly this:
Logan + wolf guard w/ assault canon and a couple with lightning claws deep striking (via drop pod)
Njal + 10 grey hunters on foot
10 grey hunters on foot x 2
10 skyclaws on the flank
land raider
couple squads of long fangs
Njal was in a unit of 10 grey hunters and had another squad of 10 right next to them, so he could hop back and forth if needed to hide in the units. I used him to obscure the sight of my guys, cast some spells and of course control the weather as it is his ability. If you don't kill him quick, he becomes very powerful in the later part of the game. So, a lot of fire power is usually concentrated on those units. All the while my long fangs are taking out enemy tanks and eventually logan + wolf guard deep strike (via a drop pod) and wipe out other units along the way. Logan and friends in your base with preferred enemy and tank hunter.
If my enemy did not try to pin and shoot my long fangs they would use their rocket launchers to destroy units and tanks. If they did not concetrate on the gray hunters and Njal they got hit with his powers. If they did not concentrate on my drop pod + logan + wolf guard they were running around with tank hunter and preferred enemy in the back lines. I stopped fielding tanks, they are just too big of a target and are too easily killed. Every game I have played tanks never make it past turn 2. So, I go for all out troops, with troop heavy support, and either flanking or deep striking models. Since, to my knowledge, SW cannot deep strike I gotta use drop pods.
I am sure veteran gamers could come in and crush me since I have only been back into war gaming for about 4 months or so now from a 15 year break, but I really like the idea of making my opponent choose. You choose between wiping out A, B or C, and all of those choices are going to take a few turns to get rid of and if you leave one of them alone they will be a thorn in your side.
Ahh the xeno logic, how confident you are and how you know nothing of the Space Wolves. How backwards you have it.
Keep listening to your chaos bretheren taking in their taint. It shall only make your destruction and humiliation all the better for it. Indulge in your fantasys for your reckoning is soon upon you.
By blood and fire you shall fall before Leman's chosen. The brotherhood fears nothing for we are fear incarnate.
As for the drink I am not a fan whatsoever of Tequila how about a drink like nothing seen before. Green in color smoked in appearence. Swamp gas from Fenris.
Swamp Gas is Everclear mixed with Mountain Dew and dry ice for effect.
A shot for every victory point would be very atractive to my helmeted cat friend as he has the stanima of an immortal while drinking. A Space Dogs always barks loudest before a fight, but turns into a hollow whine when pressed to any real challenge. Drink a real drink you panzie Puppies and stop belly aching and bragging. Chaos will stand with are pointy eared brother to the end!
I have faced these Dogs for the last 10 yrs and they never empress me with anything new, just barking and boasting like usual. Bjorn is the only real threat that perks my attention, but once I pop open his armor the rest of his brethren fall like wheat to the scythe. A harvest fit for slayers like me and Dash who fear non and slay with glee all those that face use in a true battle. All Hail Abbadon!!!!
I should have expected a Space Wolf challenged to a drinking contest to suggest fermented horse urine. If it will ease the gentle palete of your sensibilities, I would even let you substitute carbonated fruit juice. Obviously we'll need to pour it into appropriately labeled alcoholic containers; we wouldn't want any of the lesser races to know the truth about their Astartes protectors.
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Out of Character for a moment: I don't like beer. Much prefer shots of liquor. Not Everclear; I at *least* like my drinks to be pleasant on my tongue. We don't even have to drink from the same bottle, just something of the same proof. If I have a bottle of tequila, can you find something that is simliar in alcoholic content? I typically bring Captain Morgan to GTs, but think that tequila would step up the fun a bit sooner.
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Crom: Thank you for appearing. Let me call on the thousands of years of experience of my Kabal for a moment to tell you how a game between us would go.
Likelihood #1: Both of our armies take the field, and your army remembers that it had "other plans" today and hastily moves out to your "other obligations."
Likelihood #2: Both of our armies take the field, and common sense prevails. Your army concedes the battle before it begins to preserve themselves from fates worth than death.
Likelihood #3: Space Wolf genes take over, and common sense does not prevail. The game progresses like this:
Turn 1: All your longfangs die. This is a statistical likelihood, not a case of good rolling. Additionally, your land raider is wrecked or exploded. There is a roughly 228% statistical likelihood (or 100% if you like) of this event occuring. I'm going to pretend that I don't do anything else evil to your army. In exchange, you deep-strike Logan in a drop pod and wreck one of my vehicles.
Turn2: Logan's drop pod is at least shaken. Njall and the unit he's with is entirely destroyed. Logan and the wolf guard get multi-assaulted and completely wiped out at I6. In exchange, you have nothing left to hurt me.
Turn3: Your drop pod gets wrecked, your blood claws and one or both remaining grey hunters are completely wiped out. In exchange, you do nothing.
Turn4: Any surviving grey hunters are destroyed.
This is a *conservative* estimate of how the game would go. I would actually wager money that if you didn't reserve, you wouldn't survive to turn4. Also, you getting one killpoint is optimistic. More likely, I would leave the field of battle unscathed with prisoners in tow.
Ah....if I could pat you on the head I would. You're still a cute space puppy. Before you get too ingrained in the error of your ways, change allegiance. Decide to be from a loyalist legion. If the Emperor was Abel, you would be Caine. Or at least the evil force that provided Caine with the rock, the time and location, and the lowered defenses to kill Abel.
Come now, your souls are needed to slake my hunger.
I should have expected a Space Wolf challenged to a drinking contest to suggest fermented horse urine. If it will ease the gentle palete of your sensibilities, I would even let you substitute carbonated fruit juice. Obviously we'll need to pour it into appropriately labeled alcoholic containers; we wouldn't want any of the lesser races to know the truth about their Astartes protectors.
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Out of Character for a moment: I don't like beer. Much prefer shots of liquor. Not Everclear; I at *least* like my drinks to be pleasant on my tongue. We don't even have to drink from the same bottle, just something of the same proof. If I have a bottle of tequila, can you find something that is simliar in alcoholic content? I typically bring Captain Morgan to GTs, but think that tequila would step up the fun a bit sooner.
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Crom: Thank you for appearing. Let me call on the thousands of years of experience of my Kabal for a moment to tell you how a game between us would go.
Likelihood #1: Both of our armies take the field, and your army remembers that it had "other plans" today and hastily moves out to your "other obligations."
Likelihood #2: Both of our armies take the field, and common sense prevails. Your army concedes the battle before it begins to preserve themselves from fates worth than death.
Likelihood #3: Space Wolf genes take over, and common sense does not prevail. The game progresses like this:
Turn 1: All your longfangs die. This is a statistical likelihood, not a case of good rolling. Additionally, your land raider is wrecked or exploded. There is a roughly 228% statistical likelihood (or 100% if you like) of this event occuring. I'm going to pretend that I don't do anything else evil to your army. In exchange, you deep-strike Logan in a drop pod and wreck one of my vehicles.
Turn2: Logan's drop pod is at least shaken. Njall and the unit he's with is entirely destroyed. Logan and the wolf guard get multi-assaulted and completely wiped out at I6. In exchange, you have nothing left to hurt me.
Turn3: Your drop pod gets wrecked, your blood claws and one or both remaining grey hunters are completely wiped out. In exchange, you do nothing.
Turn4: Any surviving grey hunters are destroyed.
This is a *conservative* estimate of how the game would go. I would actually wager money that if you didn't reserve, you wouldn't survive to turn4. Also, you getting one killpoint is optimistic. More likely, I would leave the field of battle unscathed with prisoners in tow.
Ah....if I could pat you on the head I would. You're still a cute space puppy. Before you get too ingrained in the error of your ways, change allegiance. Decide to be from a loyalist legion. If the Emperor was Abel, you would be Caine. Or at least the evil force that provided Caine with the rock, the time and location, and the lowered defenses to kill Abel.
Come now, your souls are needed to slake my hunger.
I drink whiskey, Irish whiskey, and upon your defeat I would demand that a whole bottle of Red Breast be given to me as a gesture to spare your miniatures from their doom, and by doom I mean smashing with a hammer. Since we play prison rules and any model killed actually gets crushed by a hammer. Just like the mighty hammer of Arjac. While you are drunkenly crying over your precious models smashed to bits, I am finishing up all the whiskey and basking in the fact you were unable to physically smash any of my models with a hammer. In fact, the skinny puny arms of an Eldar, be it dark or not, could probably not even lift a warhammer to begin with. I guess to be fair, I will have to allow you to use a small carpenter's hammer, perhaps one built for a child.
All of your skimmers would crash with my wolf priests, as I could easily field Njal plus another one, and if I so felt like it a unit of Fenrisian wolves to meet your pointy eared tight pants emo boys in combat. All the while the whole time you would be totally jealous of not only my awesome beard, but the awesome beards on all my marines.
Crom wrote:I drink whiskey, Irish whiskey, and upon your defeat I would demand that a whole bottle of Red Breast be given to me as a gesture to spare your miniatures from their doom, and by doom I mean smashing with a hammer. Since we play prison rules and any model killed actually gets crushed by a hammer. Just like the mighty hammer of Arjac. While you are drunkenly crying over your precious models smashed to bits, I am finishing up all the whiskey and basking in the fact you were unable to physically smash any of my models with a hammer. In fact, the skinny puny arms of an Eldar, be it dark or not, could probably not even lift a warhammer to begin with. I guess to be fair, I will have to allow you to use a small carpenter's hammer, perhaps one built for a child.
All of your skimmers would crash with my wolf priests, as I could easily field Njal plus another one, and if I so felt like it a unit of Fenrisian wolves to meet your pointy eared tight pants emo boys in combat. All the while the whole time you would be totally jealous of not only my awesome beard, but the awesome beards on all my marines.
Crom:
I would play the hammer game with you with one caveat: The first 5 models killed on either side are safe. This would ensure that my army is spared the hammer while destroying your army minus five models. I really *do* believe that if we played a game, I would table you while losing at most 1 model.
It is also worth noting that I enjoy Space Wolf beards. My kabal takes great pleasure in tying Spacewolf beards into ponytails, dipping them into wax, lighting them on fire, then taking wagers over how long it takes for their faces to melt off. Perhaps your agonizing death will earn me money?
This is typical of my dark brethren who possess the arrogance to call themselves Eldar.
Our seers don't doubt your capabilities as a raider DoP but actively seeking a battle with the proudest and most unwashed of all the Monkeigh- for the simple reason of crushing their pride for your petty amusement! All Eldar surely appreciate the disgusting stench of wet dog that pervades Fenris and each its unsanitary denizens. Actively seeking their company is masochistic in itself...
If even one Space Wolf player loses...I swear..I will call apon the Authority invested in me, by my Emperor, to bring Holy exterminatus down apon Fenris itself.
The Inquisition will not see Xenos win...even if it would remove a Chapter of deviant mutants.
Crom wrote:I drink whiskey, Irish whiskey, and upon your defeat I would demand that a whole bottle of Red Breast be given to me as a gesture to spare your miniatures from their doom, and by doom I mean smashing with a hammer. Since we play prison rules and any model killed actually gets crushed by a hammer. Just like the mighty hammer of Arjac. While you are drunkenly crying over your precious models smashed to bits, I am finishing up all the whiskey and basking in the fact you were unable to physically smash any of my models with a hammer. In fact, the skinny puny arms of an Eldar, be it dark or not, could probably not even lift a warhammer to begin with. I guess to be fair, I will have to allow you to use a small carpenter's hammer, perhaps one built for a child.
All of your skimmers would crash with my wolf priests, as I could easily field Njal plus another one, and if I so felt like it a unit of Fenrisian wolves to meet your pointy eared tight pants emo boys in combat. All the while the whole time you would be totally jealous of not only my awesome beard, but the awesome beards on all my marines.
Crom:
I would play the hammer game with you with one caveat: The first 5 models killed on either side are safe. This would ensure that my army is spared the hammer while destroying your army minus five models. I really *do* believe that if we played a game, I would table you while losing at most 1 model.
It is also worth noting that I enjoy Space Wolf beards. My kabal takes great pleasure in tying Spacewolf beards into ponytails, dipping them into wax, lighting them on fire, then taking wagers over how long it takes for their faces to melt off. Perhaps your agonizing death will earn me money?
I sense hesitation in your words. You dropped from losing no models, to now wanting a buffer of 5? Oh your over confidence is starting to wear thin.
Mr Hyena wrote:If even one Space Wolf player loses...I swear..I will call apon the Authority invested in me, by my Emperor, to bring Holy exterminatus down apon Fenris itself.
The Inquisition will not see Xenos win...even if it would remove a Chapter of deviant mutants.
I will hold you to this, and will see your execution by commisar should you not fufill this holy act of cleansing!
Mr Hyena wrote:If even one Space Wolf player loses...I swear..I will call apon the Authority invested in me, by my Emperor, to bring Holy exterminatus down apon Fenris itself.
The Inquisition will not see Xenos win...even if it would remove a Chapter of deviant mutants.
I will hold you to this, and will see your execution by commisar should you not fufill this holy act of cleansing!
Cleaning might be in order considering the relative cleanliness of a Space Wolf...
Mr Hyena wrote:If even one Space Wolf player loses...I swear..I will call apon the Authority invested in me, by my Emperor, to bring Holy exterminatus down apon Fenris itself.
The Inquisition will not see Xenos win...even if it would remove a Chapter of deviant mutants.
I will hold you to this, and will see your execution by commisar should you not fufill this holy act of cleansing!
Cleaning might be in order considering the relative cleanliness of a Space Wolf...
Crom, you don't really want to play Hammer Prison Rules 40k with me. The 5 model caveat is to protect the single model I'd expect to lose against your list in exchange for tabling you. Its five models instead of one just in case the dice gods decide to particularly favor you and let you kill more than one model before getting wiped off the map.
Hahaha, is that anything like when you bet your dark eldar army that you could kill my warbikers on turn 1, only to eat your words when I said I'd reserve them?
Seriously, I appreciate that you really really want to play high-stakes 40k, but you gotta get smarter about what you claim you can do.
I don't even know your list, but you know that you can lose five models to a single raider exploding, right?
The Chaos gods will protect Dash and Khorne himself will honor him with compleate victory over the flea ridden menace....Space Wolfs....more like Space Sheep...
Large words for an army who denies your gods. Chaos and DE have nothing in common save for a common enemy but rest assure would kill each other at the drop of a hat. Khorne himself would never honor anyone but himself and to think he would shows your ignorance and why you follow the false gods in the first place.
You have joined in harsh words with an enemy who owes you no allegance or even cares for your company. How I pity you..
I find your lack of faith in the one army that blocks your path out of the eye of terror amusing at best. Chaos is nothing but a shell of lost causes and vanity.
Fool, the DE and Chaos have more in common then they let on. Raiders and thieves both, leaving carnage and desolation in their wake. They may serve different ends but their corruption and depravity are difficult to distinguish.
Your dismissive arrogance will be your downfall, Monkeigh. You are quick to forget that forces of chaos have rampaged entire sectors for hundreds of years at a time, and that your forces are ever thinner and weaker.
You are also quick to forget that the only reason you still hold Cadia from the Black Crusades is because of the intervention of our civilized people. Without Eldrad and Maugen Ra Terra would have fallen already to Abadons foul horde.
You place too much faith in the unwashed mutts on Fenris- cheap missile launchers will only get you so far. I fear any Space Wolf army marching against Dash's raiders will meet a fate similar to Perturabo's Iron Cage. Your arrogance will lead you into a trap, you will be trapped, and executed to a man, whatever is left of your company will be unable to fight for decades to come.
You lack the foresight and guidance of the Eldar. You are fools and your arrogance has damned your petty empire to failure.
Timmed words for a wolf pup so young in this world, he who has yet to achieve manhood and face an enemy worthy enough to smack the youthful words from your mouth. I have faith in my friend Dash's Dark Eldar in defeating a tired, filthy, overstreched, over used and just plain weak Space Wolf force. Nothing more than that, Khorne knows that the time of the Wolf has been over along time. And I am happy to see these wet, stinky and filth ridden mongrels get a beating any time there is a chance. As for the Chaos Gods denying the DE is a foolish belief indead, the gods crave blood shed no matter who is doing it. As is the way of Chaos, as for being a shell for lost causes well just look at your pathetic Emperor pup. Now if he is not a worthless shell then I know not what you speak of. If this emperor of man really cared he would not have left his sons during the Great Crusades in which many of my breatheren who fought so hard in his name. Only to be abandond and forgotten to fight his wars for him, those battle brothers that left the cause of your false Emperor. Left because the Emperor was weak and left his sons when they needed him the most. We choose are way of life to slaughter and kill not in his false name but in the glory of are Master Khorne. He gives use reason to kill for glory in his name alone, he will never forget us when in need. So got weep to your sheel of a so-called Emperor and just watch what he does......Nothing as you will find he can do nothing......but collect dust.
Redbeard wrote:Hahaha, is that anything like when you bet your dark eldar army that you could kill my warbikers on turn 1, only to eat your words when I said I'd reserve them?
Seriously, I appreciate that you really really want to play high-stakes 40k, but you gotta get smarter about what you claim you can do.
I don't even know your list, but you know that you can lose five models to a single raider exploding, right?
HAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHA! If you revisit that thread about your warbikers, you'd see that the mission requirement doesn't allow reserves. I'm still waiting for you to accept the challenge.
I'd love to see Wulfe come to this battle with a fully fluffy army without any TWC, razorbacks or Long Fangs.
Just so all the people who say that 'everyone' takes them can be proved wrong...
Redbeard wrote:Hahaha, is that anything like when you bet your dark eldar army that you could kill my warbikers on turn 1, only to eat your words when I said I'd reserve them?
Seriously, I appreciate that you really really want to play high-stakes 40k, but you gotta get smarter about what you claim you can do.
I don't even know your list, but you know that you can lose five models to a single raider exploding, right?
HAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHA! If you revisit that thread about your warbikers, you'd see that the mission requirement doesn't allow reserves. I'm still waiting for you to accept the challenge.
If you'd revisit that thread, you'd see that 'ard boyz missions (or even that you got to pick the mission) were part of your initial challenge. You only tried to include that after being shown how little thought you put into the challenge.
Redbeard, since you have nothing topical to contribute to this thread, don't seem to get the spirit of it, and are looking to snipe me, I'd ask that you please not post here anymore. Feel free to argue about your warbikers with me in a warbiker thread.
So what's going to happen when the gods of chance turn a deaf ear to Dash's prayers and he ends up losing? Now I don't need a tidal wave of people going 'OH IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!11!' just speculation. Will we see pics of him acknowledging and eating his own words or maybe even writing on paper ala Terms of Surrender meetings?
Kurgash wrote:So what's going to happen when the gods of chance turn a deaf ear to Dash's prayers and he ends up losing? Now I don't need a tidal wave of people going 'OH IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!11!' just speculation. Will we see pics of him acknowledging and eating his own words or maybe even writing on paper ala Terms of Surrender meetings?
Most likely we'll never hear of it. Probably part of the reason why he's not challenging Mech guard players.
LordWynne wrote:Timmed words for a wolf pup so young in this world, he who has yet to achieve manhood and face an enemy worthy enough to smack the youthful words from your mouth. I have faith in my friend Dash's Dark Eldar in defeating a tired, filthy, overstreched, over used and just plain weak Space Wolf force. Nothing more than that, Khorne knows that the time of the Wolf has been over along time. And I am happy to see these wet, stinky and filth ridden mongrels get a beating any time there is a chance. As for the Chaos Gods denying the DE is a foolish belief indead, the gods crave blood shed no matter who is doing it. As is the way of Chaos, as for being a shell for lost causes well just look at your pathetic Emperor pup. Now if he is not a worthless shell then I know not what you speak of. If this emperor of man really cared he would not have left his sons during the Great Crusades in which many of my breatheren who fought so hard in his name. Only to be abandond and forgotten to fight his wars for him, those battle brothers that left the cause of your false Emperor. Left because the Emperor was weak and left his sons when they needed him the most. We choose are way of life to slaughter and kill not in his false name but in the glory of are Master Khorne. He gives use reason to kill for glory in his name alone, he will never forget us when in need. So got weep to your sheel of a so-called Emperor and just watch what he does......Nothing as you will find he can do nothing......but collect dust.
Reign in your anger and focus it into a blade of hate for you're enemies brother lest false pride lead to your skull being added to his throne by another of his champions like so many before them. Remember always Master Khorne, Blessed be the true Throne, cares not from WHERE the blood flows only that it flows.
OOC for a moment - Not sure but I believe that Mike said something about a Whiskey Challenge so I would assume right there that it will be out there for all to see. As for Dash he is a good player and this thread is meant to have fun while we hype this challenge. So please to all that feel the need to chime in please do so in the spirit of this thread and take it for what it is. That being said as for the drinking challenge Dash I like the idea of having our own and just making sure were both on the same page via alchohol conent etc..
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I see your minions have flocked to your side xeno scum. Heavy words and idle threats are all I am hearing. Blood this blood that my god loves you because you spill blood. This is by far the most amusing of rants. Your time draws closer and we shall know the might of the Space Marines. How confident you are, this is all the beter when your throphys racks fail and fall before you.
Mannahnin wrote:He wrote an extremely detailed report on his battle with Stelek, with a ton of pictures.
Your speculation is both uncharitable and baseless.
And thus you see how much I pay attention to these sort of things. I'm here for the drama more so the actual results and even that is quite bland and tasteless, almost forced out of both parties.
It's like watching two of those fake wrestlers talk about one another before a match, so bad that it's funny.
Kurgash wrote:
It's like watching two of those fake wrestlers talk about one another before a match, so bad that it's funny.
That's the POINT.
You're just the next in a growing list of people posting in this thread who are clueless about what the thread is about. If you can't get into the spirit of roleplaying and creatively bashing someone's codex, redacted.
Blacksunshine, while your avatar says Chaos marines, I've played against you in person and know you're a dirty Space Wolf. Honestly, I don't blame you for trying to hide your identity, I'd be ashamed of myself if my genes screamed treachery to the good of the Imperium.
I have a feeling that the only acceptable outcome for this is a Strip 40K match between Dash and a Space Puppy captured on video. Every time your army has given up a kill point you must remove an article of clothing! Because naked hairy men playing 40K for the entire internet to see is what this is all about after all.
First person naked loses!
EDIT: I can't believe I forgot that there will be copious amounts of alcohol involved... if the game is actually good I suspect that some *bromance* might even be in the realm of plausibility! hottt!
I have a feeling that the only acceptable outcome for this is a Strip 40K match between Dash and a Space Puppy captured on video. Every time your army has given up a kill point you must remove an article of clothing! Because naked hairy men playing 40K for the entire internet to see is what this is all about after all.
I have a feeling that the only acceptable outcome for this is a Strip 40K match between Dash and a Space Puppy captured on video. Every time your army has given up a kill point you must remove an article of clothing! Because naked hairy men playing 40K for the entire internet to see is what this is all about after all.
OOC....Ummmm Ewwww no naked men vids please, my tummy would not be able to stand that....Besides all the tough talk and funny rants. I to would love a DA out come only because even I have yet to face a DA force on table top. I only hear how tought they are in combat and that they are a well balanced army.
IC...I must hold my tounge for the glory of Lord Khorne, as the battle comes soon and blood will flow freely in his glorious name. Go forth mighty warriors and die well, show not fear and kill your enemy before he kills you. Your lives are not given in vain, but glorified in death as your mighty deeds will prove to all watching who is the mightiest warrior of all. Go forth and kill....kill.....KILL!
MagickalMemories wrote:But, Dash! Your genes *DO* scream treachery to the good of the Imperium!
Eric
No they don't.
My genes scream harm to the Imperium, but I've never pretended to be faithful to the Emperor or to have his interests at heart like the liars that Fenris breeds. There's no falseness to my torment of the inferior, so no treachery.
Kurgash wrote:
It's like watching two of those fake wrestlers talk about one another before a match, so bad that it's funny.
That's the POINT.
You're just the next in a growing list of people posting in this thread who are clueless about what the thread is about. If you can't get into the spirit of roleplaying and creatively bashing someone's codex, GTFO.
This thread is about a guy wanting to get taken down a notch by an army claimed to be all powerful yet he doesn't fear. Some poor guy takes up that torch, literary cage match ensues to build hype and come day of, we have our result. All the while on-lookers make their chirps, metaphor pom-poms and other whatsits.
I seem to get the point of this thread quite clear pepper. All in good fun but with an ego the size of Texas, I don't see this ending well as there wouldn't have been a need of 'ok 5 models safe, break the rest of your army' that is a bit much to stretch with the idea it's all for gaks and giggles.
Mannahnin wrote:He wrote an extremely detailed report on his battle with Stelek, with a ton of pictures.
Your speculation is both uncharitable and baseless.
And thus you see how much I pay attention to these sort of things. I'm here for the drama more so the actual results and even that is quite bland and tasteless, almost forced out of both parties.
If you don't find it amusing, there's really no need for you to post to say that. You can spend your time in another thread you do enjoy instead, and refrain from peeing in these guys' cheerios.
If you're not paying attention to the thread and that causes you to form mistaken ideas about what's going on (like thinking that the breaking models thing was any part of the challenge, when it was just a bit of fluff trash talk with an uninvolved third party), it's again probably better for you not to comment.
Speaking as a moderator, I'm not kicking you out of the thread. I'm just asking you to pause for a second and either participate in a spirit of fun and support for these guys, or maybe find another thread you enjoy more. Thanks.
I say as a fellow warlord (chaos) that the looser of this battle must hand over their Leader/General figure to the winner as a trophy. To do as he/she pleases with and take many pictures of this victory to show off to all interested parties. Then this Whiskey Challenge may just become a fad we gamers can enjoy in a fun way for many generations, after all its just a game....
I guess chaos may have to step up next time to prove a gaming point, showing that skill and good generalship will always come out on a braggart. I have beat Space Wolfs almost every week end for 5-7 years strait, so if this army list is bad or the general no good. Lets just say this, expriance also plays a factor since I have been playing WH40k since day 1. Yes I have lost playing with other armies such as, Crimson Fist Marines, Eldar, Orcs and a Genestealer Cultist Army. Point of the matter is I developed good taactic with Chaos and I have managed to beat any army I faced, well except that oneMechinized Guard Force he had it going on...Dash has this same experiance, hetalks a tough game and plays an even better one. I for one like many others want to see this face off for sheer enjoyment, after all the winner gets all the bragging rights.
LordWynne wrote:I say as a fellow warlord (chaos) that the looser of this battle must hand over their Leader/General figure to the winner as a trophy. To do as he/she pleases with and take many pictures of this victory to show off to all interested parties. Then this Whiskey Challenge may just become a fad we gamers can enjoy in a fun way for many generations, after all its just a game....
I guess chaos may have to step up next time to prove a gaming point, showing that skill and good generalship will always come out on a braggart. I have beat Space Wolfs almost every week end for 5-7 years strait, so if this army list is bad or the general no good. Lets just say this, expriance also plays a factor since I have been playing WH40k since day 1. Yes I have lost playing with other armies such as, Crimson Fist Marines, Eldar, Orcs and a Genestealer Cultist Army. Point of the matter is I developed good taactic with Chaos and I have managed to beat any army I faced, well except that oneMechinized Guard Force he had it going on...Dash has this same experiance, hetalks a tough game and plays an even better one. I for one like many others want to see this face off for sheer enjoyment, after all the winner gets all the bragging rights.
Careful when boasting of your skills LordWynne, or you may feel the flaying knives of my kabal next.
Ahh the taint of the false powers is strong within this realm. Typical of dark eldar scum and their slaves, servants to the false gods, and the beasts they enjoy to bed with.
You come here to portray strength, power, and prowess in martial combat amongst many other self serving glorifications. Yet you are in truth a race built on fear but not the fear you impose it is the fear that consumes you and spits in your face. Your frail beings live to run, to hide, and to torture the weak and the lost. You are not warriors although you claim to be you are simply fools. Fools blinded by the ever consuming fear that saturates the existence of your entire feeble bodied and feeble minded race. On such rare occasions your petty denizens claim victories achieved when you run from the might of the Imperium, tails firmly tucked, with but a few baubles from a merchant vessel or a small detachment of the Emperors men in your cages. Yet ever running, ever hiding, is all that can be claimed by Xenos scum such as yourself.
Ahh but truth of purpose is ever evading to you... fore you know not true victory, true might, or the truth of purpose that makes one great and elevates an entire species to glories yet unknown.
Tens of thousands of years we the finest of the Imperium of Man has reigned strong over the vastness of the galaxy. While you reign over shadowed piles of rocks and the dark sides of the universes smallest of moons. You are but specs of dust ever present beneath the boots of the Astartes and all who do the glorious work of mighty Emperor of Mankind.
This time your words truly do you justice for you have awoken a beast of the Imperium, one of the finest sons of Fenris whose blades will sear your soul while biting deep within your frail fleshy frame with a icy grip so cold you will freeze before you hit the ground. The Mighty Black Wolves of Fenris have been tasked with hunting you down and obliterating you from the face of every planet you set foot on, and rest assured none upon Fenris will run and hide as is the custom of your people. No the sons of Fenris will march with a strength and a calm born of purpose, and a purpose that is blessed by the Emperor is the greatest honor any being can ever achieve in this existence or the next. The steadily guided warriors of the black wolves have been trained for decade upon decade upon decade. Trained and molded in the likeness of Russ himself to achieve permanent victory and this is a task they relish in undertaking.
I, Grandmaster Octavian the Furious leader of the Steel Pharoahs Brotherhood of Grey Knights have seen first hand the prowess of the black wolves of Fenris. I have slaughtered xenos, traitors, demons, and the corrupt by the thousands at their side and I know you will be just another notch upon his blade.
OOC: Hope I can make it to Nova with Troy (Grimwulfe) hes a great friend and player who plays for fun and respect. He will bring honor to The Black Wolves win or lose hope to be there to witness this.
I, Grandmaster Octavian the Furious leader of the Steel Pharoahs Brotherhood of Grey Knights have seen first hand the prowess of the black wolves of Fenris. I have slaughtered xenos, traitors, demons, and the corrupt by the thousands at their side and I know you will be just another notch upon his blade.
I'm considering bringing Horus Reborn as an honorary HQ selection. That way, I can just order the space puppies to attack the legions on the tables around us.
I, Grandmaster Octavian the Furious leader of the Steel Pharoahs Brotherhood of Grey Knights have seen first hand the prowess of the black wolves of Fenris. I have slaughtered xenos, traitors, demons, and the corrupt by the thousands at their side and I know you will be just another notch upon his blade.
I'm considering bringing Horus Reborn as an honorary HQ selection. That way, I can just order the space puppies to attack the legions on the tables around us.
<--- Has a Leman Russ figure may let myself borrow it.
Let me repeat that the Dark Eldar Gods would spit on your chaos gods for fun. Why you come to the aid of this xeno scum is beyond me. But hey I regress I wouldnt want to deprive chaos of there fantasy's....
I was gonna try out my "cookie-cutter" 4xWL on TWs list, just for you to see what REAL cc units can do, but I really don't have that many wolves, and so, if I do make it to NOVA, you may see my other "cookie-cutter" list.
spyguyyoda wrote:I was gonna try out my "cookie-cutter" 4xWL on TWs list, just for you to see what REAL cc units can do, but I really don't have that many wolves, and so, if I do make it to NOVA, you may see my other "cookie-cutter" list.
Yum...cookies...
Oh my. Not another 4 Warleaders on Thunderwolves list. Because I haven't seen THAT one before. You know what your SW *real* CC units die? They die. Die horribly. Mangled and torn. You can find a close approximation to your list in two of my batreps. I even fought one of those battles with a hand tied behind my back and my eyes closed. With a second edition codex.
Grimwulfe wrote:
Let me repeat that the Dark Eldar Gods would spit on your chaos gods for fun. Why you come to the aid of this xeno scum is beyond me. But hey I regress I wouldnt want to deprive chaos of there fantasy's....
Oh how delightful! Traitors fighting filthy Xenos! That said, go ahead, laugh at the Gods that destroyed your precious empire, that destroyed the very gods you speak about!
Dashofpepper wrote:With a second edition codex.
Just out of curiosity, what Codex was it you did this with?
oh to be able to be there when the Emperors most faithful destroy the corrupt pointy eared xeno scum. Your kind break so easy... its hard not to do it accidentally. Alas, I'm on the other end of the eye of terror fighting the necrons, so you will have to accept my moral support brother! The Blood Wolves wish you a good fight! FOR THE GLORY OF RUSS AND THE ALLFATHER!
Dash, since this is a big deal for you, Am I right to assume you are bringing the dirtiest, most underhanded, WAAC list ever devised by a mortal, specifically designed to take on SW?
Battle Brother Lucifer, if you had followed this thread carfully then you would carfully take back those acusations towards the honorable Dash. His beloved Dark Eldar do not need a dirty, underhanded WAAC list to defeat SW's. After all his lists are very legal, all the DA force needs to bring is several gallons of a strong flea dip and the SW's will die from lack of dirtyness. Death to Space Wolfs.....and any of there dirty, filthy, drunken excuse of genetically altered brothers of thiers.
Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:I read the whole thing a while back, didn't want to again.
And who says WAAC means illegal?
Mouse over WAAC and read what it says. Winning at ALL COSTS includes illegal activity, and discludes nothing. Several things you can expect from a WAAC gamer.
-Cheating if they can get away with it.
-Creative rules interpretations that are either not *really* true, or exploiting a loophole in bad wording.
-Poor tabletop manners, loose measurements, shifty dice rolling....
The list goes on.
My Dark Eldar army is linked in my signature, and is a nice wych cult. In fact, its *very* close to the same wych cult that I ran with the old codex, minus Lelith, who now epitomizes suckage. I don't tailor lists. Ever. For anyone. My Orks haven't changed since 2009, regardless of new codexes. My DE didn't change until the new codex, where I settled on my list. I *do* encourage people to tailor to me; it gives them a sporting chance. Sometimes.
Now, if you're one of those people who confuse WAAC with words like "competitive" or "intelligent" or "tactical," I'm going to presume you originate from Fenris. Those hypocritical and traitorous mongrels have never put much value into critical thinking - Space mongrels are too busy teaching their recruits more important values....like treachery, disloyalty, hypocrisy, beard-weaving, voodoo, and the all important stinkery.
So in essence, your dark eldar should really fit in if that's what we're like...minus the beard-waving. No eldar has yet to grow a decent beard.
Panzies.
Probably not welcome, but i'm going to but my big nose into this thread.
As far as the space pups go - they are dirty psykers, and as far as I'm concerned, I hope that the Dark Eldar inflict such tortures upon them such as supergluing headphones to his runepriests and playing the Miley Cyrus album on infinite repeat - they deserve no less.
As far as the Dark Eldar go - they aren't so bad. Sure they may enjoy a bit of debauchery here and there, along with the odd genital torture and general evil practices - but they stay away from that pesky warp! It's almost a shame that we have to crush them into the dust - but don't worry dash, at least us Templars are man enough to do it the old fashioned way, and not from 48" away like some sissy space pups!
Wait, you're taking sides against an enemy of the Imperium, because we have psykers, and the race in question is made up of some of the most psychic beings in the known universe? TRAITOR!
CoI wrote:Wait, you're taking sides against an enemy of the Imperium, because we have psykers, and the race in question is made up of some of the most psychic beings in the known universe? TRAITOR!
CoI wrote:Wait, you're taking sides against an enemy of the Imperium, because we have psykers, and the race in question is made up of some of the most psychic beings in the known universe? TRAITOR!
CoI wrote:Wait, you're taking sides against an enemy of the Imperium, because we have psykers, and the race in question is made up of some of the most psychic beings in the known universe? TRAITOR!
DE aren't psykers...
Space Wolves aren't too bright.
I was going to let it go...
Fair point...
They haven't exactly set records in thinking.
CoI wrote:Last i checked they were still eldar. So naturally psychic their debauchery spawned a chaos god. I'd say there's a certain level of ability there.
And like I said, we don't expect a whole lot from Space Wolves. So we're rarely disappointed. Crack open the DE codex. The first couple of pages will do. Its explains in detail why there is not a SINGLE psyker amongst the Dark Eldar.
CoI wrote:Wait, you're taking sides against an enemy of the Imperium, because we have psykers, and the race in question is made up of some of the most psychic beings in the known universe? TRAITOR!
The last time someone called one of us Templars traitor, he had an "accident"... Wouldn't it be horrible if one of our torpedo tubes "malfunctioned"...?
I see, so when someone calls you traitor you prove it? wonderful.
and wouldn't it be horrible if my thunderwolves got hungry and accidentally ate you? ... no wait, not so accidental...
*OOC* I haven't actually read the DE codex, they don't have any psykers at all? interesting... why?
CoI wrote:I see, so when someone calls you traitor you prove it? wonderful.
and wouldn't it be horrible if my thunderwolves got hungry and accidentally ate you? ... no wait, not so accidental...
*OOC* I haven't actually read the DE codex, they don't have any psykers at all? interesting... why?
Unlike certain other Chapters of His Astartes, we take our honour seriously. Then again, that might be hard for someone without honour to comprehend.
To be fair though, all you need to do is drop all those pesky witches down a deed chasm, reverse-Jaws of the World Wolf if you will. Then we'd be on the same boat, we'd even be able to have a "we hate the Inquisition and we're proud of it!" party! Just NO WITCHES! BURN BURN! BLARGH!
Well as there isn't a single witch in the space wolves, i don't see a problem. Now we _do_ have sanctioned psyker librarians, whom the emperor, blessed be his name, allowed and in fact believed necessary. So unless you're talking about them, in which case you're defying the emperor, we're all good.
Despite the council of Nikea specifically banning psychic and sorcery?
You also DONT have librarians, you have rune priests. For a start, the SW dont have a library for your guys to be the librarians of - oral history all the way.
Dashofpepper wrote:Greetings my easily misguided future slaves, whose torture and soul-searing agony will keep my kabal entertained endlessly, and our skin pale, creamy, and vibrant with the raw terror you shake with upon contemplation of the Maleficarum standing before you.
I’ve long had nothing but contempt for all Astartes, and the rise of Space Wolves as a dominant force among Space Marine players has been the result of many snorts of laughter amongst our inner circle. Unimaginative as your pseudo-species of Frankenstein assemblies are, Space Mongrels hold a special place of humour in my black heart. What other legion could be so easily misguided to betray the Imperium and destroy the Emperor’s most loyal servants at but a word of a treacherous son? What other legion could be counted on to not have the intelligence to question the value of their actions? Stupid and unintelligent at best, traitorous to mankind at worst, these hypocritical, superstitious, and inept servants of Chaos designed to kill their brethren are my favorite target for both verbal sparring and for killing.
And why should that ingrained lack of imagination and innovation inherently bred into each and every Space Wolf reflect differently in any other facet of their mangy existence? Every army list is as unoriginal as the last – uninspiring and unimaginative, as if each skold gothi has a virtual replica of forces to wield.
Who doesn’t expect several units of mongrels toting missile launchers to cower in the backfield and snipe at transports? Who doesn’t expect one or several hyped up gothi elevated to priest status exercising the same wyrd that they condemn their brethren for? Minimal variance to account for the inclusion of lonewolves, Thunderwolf Cavalry, or vehicle spam as the personal philosophy of each dictates…but at the end of the day, it is the difference of icing on the cake, without substantive change.
And that, my subhuman mongrel pets, is the foundation of my lack of respect for the ineptitude of your murder-make. Your skjalds recite the memories of your mongrels against inferior foes. Against enemies without the advantages bred into the petri dishes of your polluted genes. Against an intelligent foe, you crumble. When your wyrd is matched against the tenacity of any of the superior lifeforms you arrogantly dismiss as Xenos, entire complements of your warriors sleep on red snow.
It is not arrogance for my race to claim superiority over yours, to dismiss your combat abilities, and cackle in glee that you remain imagined as faithful to the Emperor, when you have been the catalyst for ten thousand years of strife. It is simple fact. Space Wolves are inferior in every way. Every time these superstitious hypocrites take the field against me, my army half-sleeps its way through victory against them.
So there it is. I expect your feeble forces to quail before mine. Bowed in terror and humbled before your worst fears manifested in physical form: Dark Eldar. Are there any out there who would be willing to champion the cowed mongrel dogs and attempt to demonstrate that the puppies are *not* all cookie-cutter replicas of inferiority, and that they *do* have some fighting ability?
The whiskey challenge is Thursday night, the night before the Nova Invitational. Are there any out there whose tails won’t tuck between their legs as they flee the Maleficarum? I challenge all puppies, everywhere – prove to me that you aren’t the whimpering cowards that I know you are. Prove to me that Dark Eldar don’t drink Mjold better than the Wolves of Fenris. Instead of a whiskey challenge, we can call it the mjold challenge. Prove to me that every battle with Wolves isn’t a lesson in humiliation waiting for them.
I wish every 40k game I played had as much machismo invested into it as this... Dash is a genius. I don't know anything about CA tourneys, so when is this going down?
The Ork player in me...well, actually it's getting drunk and screaming 'Waaagh' over and over in the corner and trying to egg on the fight - this is really why I can't take him anywhere.
Let the children pick fights and roll around in their sandboxes I say, I'll be here on my porch cleaning mah old flayer wondering what it was like to be so young and naive.
Kurgash wrote:Let the children pick fights and roll around in their sandboxes I say, I'll be here on my porch cleaning mah old flayer wondering what it was like to be so young and naive.
Someday, someday soon, you shall feel what it is like to have a flying miniature monolith that can "zombify" members of the opponents army, and you shall cackle as your flayers actually get to flay.
Dashofpepper wrote:Now, if you're one of those people who confuse WAAC with words like "competitive" or "intelligent" or "tactical," I'm going to presume you originate from Fenris.
That is hilarious, i am contemplating adding it to my sig.
Meh, I find that in our area, there's quite a lot of decent SW builds that are unique and fun. The same can be said for the DE in our area. THing is, when you've got good units, you're going to take them, especially if the other choices arent as good.
I do agree that some SW players are playing just to win, and that the fluff... is a bit weak. But I do really like the SW, just for thier viking-ness, and wolfieness (though it gets a bit out of hand occasionally).
I play my Rage Knights (Angry Marines) As many different codices, to save money. SW is the one I tend to use the most, though.
While I may not agree with your views entirely, I will sav this- You're challenge is a great idea, and hopefully some SW player out there will prove you wrong. If not- who cares? It's just a game with little toy soliders.
Whew, that was a lot to say. Anyways, good luck, Dash!
MM- I doubt your assumptions are correct. The DE know the fate that will befall them and it certainly does not fall on deaf ears. Cowards needs slaves, real men just create them!! LOL
Grimwulfe wrote:MM- I doubt your assumptions are correct. The DE know the fate that will befall them and it certainly does not fall on deaf ears. Cowards needs slaves, real men just create them!! LOL
So, the Emperor is a "real man" for creating the Primarch's and SM's to be his slaves.
Right.
Gotcha.
DE are "Real Men" for creating slaves out of the mangy pups that wear grey Astartes armor.
Right.
Gotcha.
Space Wolves don't "create" slaves, so must not be real men.
Right.
Gotcha.
As this post was meant for our impending battle and this battle takes place in 3 days how exactly is that Necro'ing when I am confirming my attendance? As a few of you who are unable to do so please keep this in the nature of the challenge. And try to avoid unfare judgements when you are not involved in the final conflict/outcome.
I posted whithin the nature of the discussion as it is very alive in my mind and hopefully Dash's.
Grimwulfe wrote:As this post was meant for our impending battle and this battle takes place in 3 days how exactly is that Necro'ing when I am confirming my attendance? As a few of you who are unable to do so please keep this in the nature of the challenge. And try to avoid unfare judgements when you are not involved in the final conflict/outcome.
I posted whithin the nature of the discussion as it is very alive in my mind and hopefully Dash's.
Thank you,
Grim
The thread was a good 2 months gone when you posted.
It is kinda relevant since the event this thread was made to promote is occurring in a few days. Could have easily made a new thread, though. Anyhow, there MUST be pics/vid/batrep for this match! Can't wait to see the result.
The Nova has come and gone - I had back to back lengthy suspensions for the last couple months - the latest over a poorly aconymned joke about 40k LARPing.
Grimwulfe and I had a great game, and Dark Eldar took the day. I also played against Space Wolves several other times during the Invitational (5 in total) taking down Stelek, Hulksmash, and losing in the semi-finals to Tony Kopack's Space Wolves amid a lost roll to go first, trickling reserves, and a horrendous encounter with Njall Stormcaller's ability to literally wreck my entire army in one shot on turn 4-6.
Dashofpepper wrote:omerakk, idle speculation is overrated.
The Nova has come and gone - I had back to back lengthy suspensions for the last couple months - the latest over a poorly aconymned joke about 40k LARPing.
Grimwulfe and I had a great game, and Dark Eldar took the day. I also played against Space Wolves several other times during the Invitational (5 in total) taking down Stelek, Hulksmash, and losing in the semi-finals to Tony Kopack's Space Wolves amid a lost roll to go first, trickling reserves, and a horrendous encounter with Njall Stormcaller's ability to literally wreck my entire army in one shot on turn 4-6.
Ya, I watched the whole game. Njall's stormcaller ability was brutal but somehow your wrecked vehicles kept moving. lol! Glad it didnt affect the game though.
Dashofpepper wrote:omerakk, idle speculation is overrated.
The Nova has come and gone - I had back to back lengthy suspensions for the last couple months - the latest over a poorly aconymned joke about 40k LARPing.
Grimwulfe and I had a great game, and Dark Eldar took the day. I also played against Space Wolves several other times during the Invitational (5 in total) taking down Stelek, Hulksmash, and losing in the semi-finals to Tony Kopack's Space Wolves amid a lost roll to go first, trickling reserves, and a horrendous encounter with Njall Stormcaller's ability to literally wreck my entire army in one shot on turn 4-6.
When I said "free to post anytime", it was a very liberal definition
You are free to post whenever you want; at which time, you will be promptly suspended for 2 weeks for no reason
Dashofpepper wrote:During the GT itself, I think I actually gave out all excellent game votes.
Karma from Day one must have been balancing itself out, because I floated through the GT against opponents who didn't argue and quibble, who knew the rules, and were happy to throw dice.
Literally, every game that I played was one of my best games ever. When I ran into Rich, I was expecting trouble because he gave me some trouble during the invitational - every move needed judge intervention, double-checking every dice roll - but he told me that was because of my "reputation" and that I was right in every circumstance, and played an extremely tight game. He didn't repeat during the GT, we had no issues, and despite knowing what was coming for me, I still won by the tiniest sliver of skin on my teeth.
Close games, no rules arguments, fun opponents....this was the best set of 8 games that I have ever played in my life. It would have been a disservice to *not* give excellent game rewards to the players who unknowingly worked together to make this the best tournament experience I've ever had.
Even Tony got an excellent game vote. He was serious, all business no jokes, and I played poorly - bad reserve rolls, not going first...but I settled into his rhythm and we had an extremely enjoyable game. He took me fair and square - beat me succinctly, Njall ran amok through my entire army almost singlehandedly, and I had nothing but admiration for him giving me a lesson in humility. That would have gotten my best game of the day vote if we had them.
Is it so strange that my opponents might have felt the same? A couple people said they learned a whole lot watching me play across from them. Most said that it was an amazing game. Several also commented on how unfair my reputation is.
Eh - I had a blast. ++, will go again next year. If Mike had used a ranking system for best sportsman based on other factors, I probably would have won it because of where I stood in the brackets compared to the others. Random chance giving it to me...was gratifying, hilarious, doubly hilarious, and worth a drink.
And yet again another display of pseudo-machismo...over a tabletop game.
