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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
Hi all
i am an thrustworthy memeber of the adeptus astartes and i am in control of normal sized task force of ultramarines and a little regiment of gaurdsmen
i am expanding the ultramarine army (my god i love them) and i wanted some cool looking models i have got assault mariens and tacs and scouts so much i lose the urge to paint them
i wanted some more detailed minis i thought about calgar but deu to limited fonds i had to choose between the venerable dread, sterngaurds or vangaurds.. i bought sterngaurds (obviously)
for now i can only show the unboxing  but i will see if i can do anything with them this evening and if it's worth posting i will..
so what have we got here...
5 sterngaurds and 5 awesome looking desert bases to match my desert themed army..
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Post by: dark6spectre
nice, where did you get the bases from?
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Post by: Alpharius
Yes, where did those bases come from?
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
uhm well actually they are from a newcomer on the market and (damn me) i forgot his name and i already threw away the wrapping
but i will do some research on them and let you guys know what i came up with..
so i started with the sergeant (i guess)
based in regal blue with scorched brown as basin for the scrolls and gold.. BM for the armour joints and bolter
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Post by: bunnygurl
I agree with above posts. Very cool bases. Eager to see your Sternguards finished.
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
thx i'm workin' on it right now
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Lookin' good Joske! Aren't the bases from micro-arts studios?
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
that's it!!! micro-art that's the one thx Khaine.. Automatically Appended Next Post: so already some updates on the sergeant
1 baba wash al over the model
2. repaint all blue area's (i hate this part) the armour joints had a double baba wash to make them darker
3. adding of the red for the purity seals and black to the bolter and targetter
4. adding bleached bone for scrolls
5.i also made a sergeants banner out of a spare banner of one of mine dev squads (they don't wear banners imo)
6. painting the gold on the armour and an attempt to make the bandings white.. we'll see how it works out not very convincing for the moment..
(7. i am really crappy with a camera so there are some differences between the pics  just can't get the lighting right.. workin' on it.. )
what do you guys think of it??
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
ok so day 2 of the sterngaurd paintin'..
been workin' on the sergeant, putted him on his base and gave him his backpack
washed the baner and repainted it already.. i'm still thinkin' about the design.. any idea's?
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Post by: Thunderhawk227
Looking good.
You could do the usual ultramarines symbol for the banner or make up some symbol that makes it stand out to represent some sort of ulimate victory.
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Post by: btemple0
Perhaps you could borrow some sort of iconagraphy from the SM codex, and use some symbol from the banners in there to create an idea.
By the way, are you taking your pictures in natural light? The ones with the flash on are way too bright, and the others look like the need some highlighting.
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
the model isn't highlighted yet.. i am going to do that tommorow morning.. i put a skull on the banner representing veterancy they have a paersonal droppod and rhino also with a skull on it instead of the squad number for my tacs.. pics are incoming..
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so after working on this fella for another three hours.. i'm tired to death but he had to be finished as he's going ro enter a painting competition this very day..  so wish me luck
first of all what has happend..
1.i painted the helmet, that was a real though one..  first a thin layer of skull white than asurman blue in the resesses an then three thin layers of skull white all over the helet leaving the blue in the recesses.. you can better do layers and layers of thin white paint than try tot do the job in one go.. if you do then your helmet will look totally blurred..
2. painted the banner added, red gore and highlights
3.painted the eyes w red gore , blood red, blazing orange and a white dot.. but that's hard to spot on the picture..
4. the base has it's colours, brown banding an painted the branches and skull on the ground
5. added some cool looking bulletholes to the banner and put on a number one (ref. to first comp ofcourse)
what do you guys think of him?? i had to add the skull to the banner as to match their dedicated rihno wich has a skull as mark for transporting veterans ( he's finished and will be updated soon)
finished sergeant  comments??
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Post by: RutgerMan
If those bastrds are going to enter next game, my wraiths will be more than pleased to meet them in CC xD
In the end very very neci model and maybe your new height in painting your models xD
Also congrats on having one of your first metall models  xD
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Looking good! My only crit would be the white, which seems a tad blotchy. Lots of thin coats m8
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
@khaine: the whit IS a bit blotchy  but that's becuz i primed it in blue first  .. so had to keep layering and even with thin coat  it  still a hard job..
so i speeded up a bit ya all know now how the painting works so won't be posting every step of the painting process..
so what's new: started the second squad member he's basecoated repainted added brown and white parts.. i am busy with the shading of the helmet for te moment..
oh yeah the painting competition: i ended second  silver trofee the golden one was for some 18 year old guy who had painted a ungor the dark omen and he diserved gold IMO so here he is
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Post by: a small waagh
Looking good, like the bases you found!
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
well thx
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
@khaine: the whit IS a bit blotchy but that's becuz i primed it in blue first .. so had to keep layering and even with thin coat it still a hard job..
My advice would be space wolves or codex grey, then white. Better coverage, less blotchiness
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Post by: RutgerMan
I say Congratulations Jef
I'm actually proud being one of your warhammer buddies  xD
You even stimulated me to get more painting done! as one of my 2 bastions is now completally finished
still Congrats! and maybe 1 day you'll earn gold!
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Post by: FM Ninja 048
Sweet, as much as it pains me to say it, but Damn! they look good
(from the guy who built a hatred of Ultras into his chapters fluff)
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
thx  doing my best
so it has been a few days now.. due to some schoolwork and a new arriving squad  my lascannon devs
wich are painted now and only need some basing but ther's no need to rush.. i am a bit proud of the sergeant
so back to sterngaurds.. the next sterngaurd is almost finished now added the gold an silver detail and the scrolls..
the helmet is a lot less blurry but i messed up the freehand laurel  so the lower half is being repainted for the moment..
so here he is wht you think?? any adds or ideas??
step by and vote for one of the two very sweet adoptables below....
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Post by: FM Ninja 048
 very nice detailing on the Auspex, something looks off about the Sgt. however, I think it's because there is no gold details which is something that you usually expect on ultras
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
yes i know but that's a bit of a legend.. only the second company bears gold on their shoulder bandings.. and i was inspired bu a picture in the rulebook and i wanted white chesteagles and white bandings.. i had already to much painted until i found out that that's the colour of the 1e company wich only consists of veterans.. so i call my chapter the sons of Guilliman but i'm still working on the fluff but there will be a necron haterd in it  as i am usually fighting necrons.. new pics are incoming..
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Post by: RutgerMan
Geuss your army is just Super Elite xD haha
Necron hatred must be in their fluff xD you fought my necrons like... 50times or so xD
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Post by: Rabid Ferret
Very nice! I had my doubts from the dim photography to start. Looks like you got the hang of it now too. I like the freehand on the helmet.
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Post by: Imperial Monkey
Ultramarines always look really nice with a dark blue scheme, keep up the good work!
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
so update update
been working on the second squad member all is done except the final highlights
also showen theri very personal rhino (droppod is in progress)
note: the skull on the rihno fits with the sergeants banner
i am a bit proud of the battle damage on the rihno and the chipping on the pod.. although the rihno driver needs another paintjob..
sterngaurd marine shown for scale purposes only and is not included in kit
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Post by: RutgerMan
Jef gij bent echt zot!
Joske ur just crazy XD
You can be proud on yourself man!
If I had the time and space to take pictures I would post my bastion xD
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Post by: dark6spectre
damn you make progress quick don't you? great rhino! nice weathering!
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Post by: FM Ninja 048
How did you do that melta(?) damage, looks really melted
I must be the most intent follower of this head, you are reforming me curse you
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Post by: bunnygurl
Wow. I really like your work. Congrats on the trophy. Eager to see more.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very nice work Joske. Nice contrast between the blue and white & your whites are really crisp. Weathering on the rhino is great too! Nice extra painted on details... what's not to like? Did you do the caution striping on all 5 doors?? There's therapy for that...
Congrats on the silver! Your models are sure deserving of recognition.
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
FM Ninja 048 wrote:How did you do that melta(?) damage, looks really melted
well it('s not very hard if i have time i will make tutorial of it but here's some info you can use:
1 drill three or more holes in your tank hull make shure you have 1 big one surounded by smaller ones
2 (hard one) look for some spare sprue and light it up until the top is melted (melta  ) dab the melted plastic over the sides of the holes you had drilled (do this in a wel ventilated room and blablabla)
3 let it harden for a couple of hours
4 keep doing this until you have the desired effect
5 painting: start with red gore to blood red to blazing orange and at last a tiny bit of sunburst yellow
i will post new paintin' this evening  keep watching
Automatically Appended Next Post: ther's something wicked evolving on my desk so the pics will have to wait a bit longer but they are worth waitin'
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Post by: RutgerMan
so that's how you did that
haha
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
so finally the long expected update..
first this: when i was paiting the sergeant i thought "hey they need some transport.." so the result was easy.. a rihno..
but later i thought hey what if i need them in some special transport for special circumstances.. so i got me a droppod..
a few days ago i thought again what if.. what if they need an extreme personal transport?? for some real mean situations like veterans are likely to be in..
The result is shown below..
oyeah if you are looking carefully i can spot the final highlights doen on the second squad memeber
enjoy + comments??
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Impressive! Very nice with the troops in front too!
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Post by: moonshine
Very impressive, I like the use of transfers on top of the landraider.
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Post by: Dakka_Dok
Schone landraider, ook al is het nen loyalist en gene Chaos! ;-)
For the non Flemish speaking ones: 'Pretty Landraider, even though it's a loyalist and not Chaos.'
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Looking good, love the edge highlights on the blue.
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
thx ya all
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Post by: moonshine
What do use to highlight your marines? whatever it is it's definatly working
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
basecoat regal blue 1 highllight ultramarine blue 2 highlight space wolves grey
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Post by: moonshine
It's definatly working. have you tried highlighting in ice blue before sw grey ?
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
no actually never tried but i don't have ice blue so  but i'm happy how they look now so..
never change a working system mate
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Post by: RutgerMan
indeed never change it! unless like my necrons they need a better look! (as you gain experience in painting you sometimes think, man they need to be better!)
Look on my blog and see my metall tide
also joske great work already and i truly wan't to face those veteran's ><
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
RutgerMan wrote:
Look on my blog and see my metall tide
you just highjacked my blog
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Post by: neil101
They look great , i like the way you paint your gems/lights
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Post by: FM Ninja 048
RutgerMan wrote: Look on my blog and see my metal tide 
If you're going to advertise you own stuff in someone else's blog, at least put up a link
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Post by: Reaper Man 2020
I like the two marines you have done and I was glad to see you win a prize for the first one. In addition to the other comments on the painting might I humbly suggest that the blue lining on the helmet might have been better done with a wash and the neatened up with another layer of skull white. The laurel is nicely done and I agree that the lenses etc are also well painted. I take it you are quite young as you mentioned school and that the winner of the painting competition was 18 which means you are well ahead of many veteran gamers and painters with plenty of time to hone your skills yet! nice vehicles too, for the transfers i find that a light dry brushing in the under colour and then painting over the transfer in the same colour (ie white in your case) takes away the shininess and makes it look more like you painted it, any major cockups just cover with "weathering".
Keep going they look great so far!
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Post by: .Kern.
FM Ninja 048 wrote:RutgerMan wrote: Look on my blog and see my metal tide 
If you're going to advertise you own stuff in someone else's blog, at least put up a link
They're real life friends, don't worry ^^
Big thumbs up on the weathered bottom... Really liking the scratched iron and dirt effect!
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Post by: FM Ninja 048
I knew that, maby someone else (me) wants to see them
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
@reaper man: i'm 17  I am painting since i was 10 years old so i'm in the busines for quite some time
the blue was done with a heavy wash of asurman blue but due to lights and autoajustment of dakka it looks way darker then in reallity..
for the transfers i have gor my own recept so dont woory about them, i just couldn't wait until the decal was completly dry to tak epics and upload them
so progress update: the third and fourth marine are inbound to join the squad, i really like them the most, they are the two sweetest models of the sterngaurd kit. But i got a question for you 40K Vets i want to enlarge my squad up to 10 models but i'm not going to buy a second sterngaurd box set like this one.. are there other sterngaurd sets? if there are be kind enough to place a link below.. THX
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Post by: RutgerMan
GW doesn't have 'another set' for as far as I know and see on their website. Yet many other veteran's can be bought seperatly
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Post by: bunnygurl
Beautiful Rhino. Amazing.
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
RutgerMan wrote:GW doesn't have 'another set' for as far as I know and see on their website. Yet many other veteran's can be bought seperatly 
yeah that's true but you know like no other I have limited funds
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
i have been thinkin' about these fellas and maybe they are my next parchuse.. but i need a rihno a pod and two or three tornado speeders much more then 5 extra veterans :s so i'll see how it goes.. thx btw
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Post by: moonshine
Its no problem, you should post pics of your entire army in this blog from what we've seen so far it's a great army
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
yeah it's alright but i have been working on 2 tac squads for almost a year and they are not yet finished
i haven't got a huge army but it's ok for me for the time being but i want to enlarge my colletion till i can play a big apocalyps game with it
Automatically Appended Next Post: so update
showed a wip of the wash thing i do (i haven't shown it yet)
the rally hard corvus patern shoulder pad i'm workin"' on.. see how it goes..
so what you think?
i like the skull on the shulder pad  it came out really great imo
the picture isn't focused but you got the point i guess..
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I like it. Though I'm not sure about the colored studs on the shoulder pad... may just be the photograph. The color appears to be bleeding out into the pad. You might be better off just making the pad & studs a solid white with a touch of pale wash under each one, or perhaps making it slightly off-white with a pure white highlight on each stud.
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Post by: FM Ninja 048
^^^what he said
I like the crotch oaths, are they your own addition?
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
it is till a wip ya know ^^ he isn't finisehd i have to tome down the blue wash and the pic makes it darker than it is IRL
@Ninja: yes i putted them on myself ^^
thx f comments Automatically Appended Next Post: so a litle update but not of my sterns.. Moonshine mentioned ha wanted to see some pics of the entire army.. so if he's still intrested: here it is
not really huge but they get the job done most of the time.. i devide my army into wings.. (stolen from dark angels  )
heavy support wing is actually the biggest one withe 3 dev squads and the land raider but i also have a big assault wing w assault squad, bike squad and a speeder not too much elites: 2 dreads and 9 termis + 5 sterns
troops: 2 tac squads and 2 scout squads  and a rihno
hq: captain wich i mostly field as a chaplain (really good killcombo w termies w lC  )
and my scratchbuilt MOTF or techmarine i have never ever fielded  poor fella he got all his weps and gears except for the servo arms  epic fail  i couldn't find anything to represent them so na wat the heck..
so here it is my SM Task force named "Sons of Guilliman" (not Ultramarines) shown on their home world (desert world)
what do you think??
i love these marines below love them the most of the entire army..
cc??
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Post by: moonshine
Looks good, a shame they're not ultras ( there isn't enough ultras out there (seriously))
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Post by: FM Ninja 048
'Not really huge' he says,
bigger than mine, looks good (as usual)
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Post by: Wulfe Luer
Whoa, how did you model/paint the techmarine there?
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
@wulfe: greenstuff + bitz and blood red armour.. no big deal..
@ FM Ninja: I'm aming for a apocalyps force befor i'm going to start on my second army.. wich will be grey knights or some renegad IG but that's future..
@Moonshine: they are Ultra's and in the same time thzey'r not.. but i wil PM you for some fluff if you want
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Post by: moonshine
oooh please do, I love the fluff, the second best bit of 40k imo (after gaming of chorse)
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Looks nice, didn't realize you had this much painted! We should do a battle and put up a batrep
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Post by: Limbo
Nice army, love the deep blue colour, makes a great contrast to the white trim. Only thing is I'd imagine the Sons of Guilliman to look more like this: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sons_of_Guilliman I like your scheme better thought, the dark blue is much more appealing imo.
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
aaah crap they already exist.. damn.. have to find a new name ..
@Moonshine: as soon as possible i''l send
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Post by: FM Ninja 048
Guillimans wardens ?
Gardians of Ultramar ?
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
Guilliman has to be in it.. i noed it for the fluff so.. gaurdians of Ultramar are the ultramarines.. so .. nah but hey thx
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Post by: Lennysmash
Scions of Guilliman. How about that?
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Post by: RutgerMan
Heart of Guilliman, Guilliman's chosen, Spirits of Guilliman, Guilliman's brotherhood,.... I can go on if you would like xD (not that the last one's would be good) but eventually we would get there
The Desert planet  haha The home of another race,... one with the most outdated CODEX!!
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Post by: fasteddiexx1
Great Looking Mini's Brother!!
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
my homewolrd is built on your tomb complex..  that's why we fight so frequently..
What's a Scion? sounds god but yeah what is it?  (no native english speaker ya know  )
Have been thinking on some Fluff  don't laugh..
Guilliman created a secret chapter when he swas stationed in the fortress of maccrage and only he and his most thrusted servants knew about the project.. he made them because Guilliman had a vision of the future and he saw the high need of an extraordinary fighting force.. so he created his own Space marines.. what difernces them from other chapter is then can never ever turn to chaos their gene seed is programmed to destroys itself from the moment i starts mutating.. they have a higher muscle growth than other chapters witch make them harder to kill but limits their agility in close combat.. when creating his own superwarriors Guilliman knew, when falls his work would fal with him or the adeptus astartes will disband his chapter and its units will be stationed in other chapters.. and the Scions of Guilliman are made to fight togheter brother next to brother, shoulder to shoulder, loyal to the emperor.. their moto is "Fight togheter, or die togheter" top priority of thier training was that they would never leave a battle-brother behind even when he was dead.. Roboute didn't want to make his warriors do be divided and fight under other chapters banners.. so he did something extraordinary.. something never done before.. he spoke whit his most loyal librarians about it.. and with combined efforts they created a gate into the Warp wich turned many of his librarians to madness and heressy, but there were still enough left to keep under control.. they created somekind of vacuum bubble in the warp and the planet of Dethos was sucked into the vacuum. The planet Dethos contained 2 fortresses of the Scions Guilliman chapter. Inside the fortres on the Nort pole of the planet were the chapters troops,the battle brothers. Along with chapter serfs, apothecary, techpriests, 2 captains, a couple thunderhawks and a huge geneseed bank.. The battle-brothers wer kept in a stasis field similar to the golden throne of the God-Emperor himself ! ! in wich they could stay for all eternity if necessary.. the fortress on the South Pole was an Armoured vehicle storage.. There could everything be found and even unknown weapon technologies.. the Scions of Guilliman could find anything they needed and wanted inside the second fortress.. the planet of dethos was a desert strewn planet.. but what Guilliman and his brothers didn't knew was there was something else on the planet except of the two fortresses.. way below planet surface something stirred in the dark caves and tombs.. (No tyranid this time..)
Not so long ago the Fortresses of dethos started to send signals into the cold and dark void of outer space.. Those signals were picked by a Ultramarines convoy returning to Macragge.. they investigated but they couldn't find wher it came from.. just as they wer about to leave the site space around them started to shine and glitter, weird sounds and voices could be heared inside everyones heads.. vox comunication was completly shut down and the starcompass turned loose.. astropathic contact was declared forbidden after the death of an astropath who was trying to make contact to the nearest stellar system.. they were locked in a rift of the warp... after a few days it suddenly stopped.. and thye found a way back into reallity.. but right behind them.. in their wake.. followed a planet.. The Planet Of Dethos.. all the convoy was happy to notice only seconds wer gone in real time when they were in warp space.. and they had found an undiscoverd planet and their scanners said it was demonfree.. (deu to the bubble of psychic energy) but the warp did not only waked up the planet.. it also waked p the horrible and inhuman creatures under the surface.. The Scions of Guilliman are now trying to vanish the curse on their planet for th emoment the fight goes well for the space marines.. let's hope it reamains that way... Plan B is already in progress in case it does not go well for the Space mariens they started to colonize neighbouring desert systems and are building factories and training grounds for new recruits..
coments?? adds?? Automatically Appended Next Post: fasteddiexx1 wrote:Great Looking Mini's Brother!!
Thx Brother Fasteddiexx.. ur not bad too..
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Joske De Veteraan wrote:Guilliman created a secret chapter when he swas stationed in the fortress of maccrage and only he and his most thrusted servants knew about the project..
Only he and his most "thrusted servants"??? " Thrusted!!??" I'll bet it was a secret chapter... I can only imagine how it was "created".
(I'm laughing so hard at work... silently... I can hardly type.)
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Post by: moonshine
Thats lol gitsplitta. I wonder how silent the sisters of silence were about that?
Apart from that the fluff is pretty good, the thing is, I don't think guiman kept secrets.
This seems more like a jhonson or corax thing
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Post by: FM Ninja 048
Gitsplitta wrote:Only he and his most "thrusted servants"??? "Thrusted!!??" I'll bet it was a secret chapter... I can only imagine how it was "created".
BOW-CHIKKA-BOW-WOW
Joske De Veteraan wrote:What's a Scion? sounds god but yeah what is it?
* In kinship, a descendant (of a notable family), a son or daughter
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
moonshine wrote: Apart from that the fluff is pretty good, the thing is, I don't think guiman kept secrets.
This seems more like a jhonson or corax thing
the reason why he kept them secret is detailed in the story.. Automatically Appended Next Post: Gitsplitta wrote:Joske De Veteraan wrote:Guilliman created a secret chapter when he swas stationed in the fortress of maccrage and only he and his most thrusted servants knew about the project..
Only he and his most "thrusted servants"??? " Thrusted!!??" I'll bet it was a secret chapter... I can only imagine how it was "created".
(I'm laughing so hard at work... silently... I can hardly type.)
i don't get the joke or whatever..
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Post by: RutgerMan
Like the story, only thing I can say is, necron planets or death worlds, normally hold buildings, machines or even protective charms against the warp.
- as somewhere is declared why the planet cadia is able to hold up against chaos is because there are necron structures there who greatly decrease the power of the warp.-
Only comment I have :p Dethos couldn't actually move into the warp as necron technollogy would sense and protect the planet against such stuff XD
Unless you declare the field Guilliman created was so powerful that the planet didn't feel like going into the warp
Anywayyy the machines of dethos are eager to fight once more! Even though the necrons aren't powerful now :p (but you enjoy your time mate! this year, I hope, the necrons will receive their codex!!)
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Post by: moonshine
hmmm I just read it again and a secret chapter dosn't sound like somthing guilman would do. it definatly sounds more like somthing another primarch would do (like jhonson, corax). It also sounds like somthing a radical inquisitor would do. no offence but guilman is to level headed to do somthing like that. maybe if you renamed them and say a diffrent primarch did it (sorry if this discouraged, i don't mean to put you down or anything) keep working on it though
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Post by: btemple0
Not neccessarily, it could have been done to mask his feeling of guild for not bieng able to fight at the emporer's side during the HH. Gulliman could have written the codex astartes and ordered the forced second foundings in order to mask this so all of the other chapters would not feel betrayed by his creation of such a force.
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Post by: usukgoose
Really cool minis dude, Am an Ultra's collector so nice to see one of ours! In regards to your Fluff, there was a Rogue trader articlle on creating your own chapter, and am afraid that you have commited a sin by saying the primarch created a secret chapter.
It's just not thought of as a possibility. At the time the primarchs controlled legions not chapterrs, you can say that a certain band were created into your chapter but the making one on the side is almost as bad as claiming them to be 2nd founding.!!!
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Post by: moonshine
The problem with guilman is he was not as emotional as the other primarchs in the first heretic he just stands sround watching malcador get punched and he was on a campaighn for seven years after the heresy if he did feel guilt he would feel better after re-uniting the imperium
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Post by: RutgerMan
If guilliman is that difficult to be the creator of this chapter, why not make the emporor the inspirer! He still lives in the warp, and as the planet went warp bound and some former ultramarines were stuck on it (now changing your fluff story tottally) they found the emporor, he came and took the opportunity of manifesting a new chapter, 'The sons of hope' as the marines were now blessed and protected by the psychic manifestation of the emporor itself, they are a chapter of completaly new bounds. Yet they hide their power under their dark blue coulored armour, and yet show it with white accents. They are also not chained to the will of terra as the emporor itself guides them. No authority but the found connection with the emporor itself can command them. Their first Holy quest, purge their new Home planet of the Necrons. Dethos needs to eb cleansed in the 41st Millenium.
sorry changing the intire thing now  but maybe it could be more possible XD
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Post by: Lennysmash
@RutgerMan - Hmm I think Joan of Arc tried that once. Not bound by the rule of an early King but governed by a higher power. As I recall it didn't end to well for her
Nice idea though. Automatically Appended Next Post: Joske De Veteraan wrote:What's a Scion? sounds god but yeah what is it?  (no native english speaker ya know  )
Ah crap sorry bro totally missed your question. A Scion is a descendant of a notable family, an off-shoot or branch from something larger.
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
ok so after some fluff discussions i thought it wouldn't be bad to go back to the thread
so i managed (how, i just don't know) but i managed to get a 100% solid white colour on the helmet
i don't dare to paint the laurel just in case i mess it up  i alos highlighted his armour and finished his base..
so he's almost done...
cc?
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Post by: Lennysmash
Best thing to do would be to spray a spare piece of sprue white and practice laurels on that. You'll never learn if you don't try,
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
not that i can't do them.. btw i practice them on a pice of cardboard before i start painting.. but there is alway a little chance of messing it up.. no matter how good you are.. so.. i'm going to keep him this way for the time being
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Post by: Lorna
Bit late, but how about Gulliman's Scythes.
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
nah sorr ur too late mate
they are the scions of guilliman
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Post by: Lennysmash
Good choice
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Nice Joske... did you line in the blue in the gaps? I'm just amazed at how crisp your white looks, mine never gets that good.
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
it has 5 layers of skull white with something like 3:1 water-paint blue in the gaps is an asurman blue wash after the first layer of paint no so hard after all.. just be patient that's the key to crisp white..
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Thanks Joske, I'll give that a try.
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Post by: Thunderhawk227
I usually do a skull white base coat, take some badab black to it, then use water-downed skull white in layers. Worked for my apothecary...
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Post by: Gitsplitta
You have a pic Thunderhawk?
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Post by: Thunderhawk227
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/181795-apothecary.html
I think I actually used watered down chaos black with badab black on top of the white base coat for the apothecary.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Nice!
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
doesn't look bad
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
no I'm not dead yet so a have a hard time getting al my schoolwork doen in time so..
but here is an update of something new and a little sterngaurd progress..
I was getting tired of painting (happens sometime..) so i started to scratchbuilding me a nice and unike captian for my chapter
he has a combat shield and a wep counts as power sword or thunder hammer..
use legs from a bike kit and tac squad kit, torso from tac squad and head also.. arms as well and backpack two.. banner is from a spare AOBR captain..
so what you think??
cc..
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Interesting... the flail needs more than one chain though... 3 at least. Also you'd have to hold a weapon like that from the bottom on the handle or you'd never get it to swing properly.
I like him though... has got a lot of potential!
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Post by: RutgerMan
SWEET C'TAN!! that thing is going to rip some necrons apart. Now well, not if I kill it first XD
still very nice model and for the end of the 'flail', maybe some Lord of the rings inspiration  (Look at the 'flail' thingie from the Witch king. the leader of the Nazgûl.)
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
@Gitts: I used my last piece of chain on this one so I will probably stick to one.. srr  i like him like that actually and he's unique and that's the most important to me.. but thx btw
@Rutger: yeah it looks cool the wep of the witch king but i was more thinking of a blade or something.. any ideas??
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Naah, no sweat! I like it when people stick to their guns. I'm such a marshmallow I agree to damn near everything.
How about making some little plasticard or wire spikes and gluing them to the last two links? Would make it a little more flail-like and destructive looking.
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Post by: FM Ninja 048
He's levatating, he must be possesed!
PURGE THE UNCLEAN!!!!
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Post by: moonshine
The captain looks great nice idea with the chain. It would make more sence if he had a jumpack but everything else looks good
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
FM Ninja 048 wrote:He's levatating, he must be possesed!
PURGE THE UNCLEAN!!!!
How dare you to insinuate that!!  he's jumping up to go for a headshot instead of kicking in the belly or torso..
something like this.. but with a chain instead of a sword.. ofcourse..
@moonshine: yeah i was thinking that too and it's ok with the points actually.. but he was already assembled and I don't have any spare jumppacks.. so  but he fits perfect with my assault mariens you don't really notice he's not wearing a jumppack.. you can only look at the whirling chain..
I will start paint him as soon as I can..
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Post by: Thunderhawk227
Nah, the Librarian that was standing a ways back threw him foreward.
I was thinking that you could probably put a spiked ball on the chain to represent the thunderhammer.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Joske, If you want a flail head drop me a PP, I have a few spares. Nice idea btw!
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Post by: btemple0
Thunderhawk227 wrote:Nah, the Librarian that was standing a ways back threw him foreward.
I was thinking that you could probably put a spiked ball on the chain to represent the thunderhammer.
Rather he is redefining Deep Strike
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Post by: RutgerMan
Dude now he is finished! perfect! paint it right away!! hope that this sunday your painting already! xD
I wanna fight that captain  haha
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
I am painting him right now..  and the next battle ur crons will find their death on the ball-side of the flail  I'm also thinkin' of new tactics so we'll HAVE to fight this vacation  ther's no other way..
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Post by: RutgerMan
yea truly! next vacation we need to plan a few days again! so the battle's may rage endlessly XD keep up the good work anyway
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
Soo update update: first up capain wip the only model that has the honour to wear a golden helmet..
second up finished the fourth squad member of the sterngaurds (combimelta)
coments ?? adds??
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Uhm... Mould line on the commander's arm holding the flail?
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
AH!!! wtf??!! can't figure out how i missed that one.. damn.. he ain't fiished yet.. thx btw
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Post by: RutgerMan
Where's the white on your captain? I do miss the white xD
And maybe you could name him and paint his name on the banner  He already looks fantastic anyway!
and maybe, just maybe, give the flail some power weapon feel
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
he's a wip my friend..  he will get his white trims and details soon don't worry.. the flail will look more powerweplike when he's finished .. dont worry he WILL beat ur necrons to gak in true Spacemarine style Automatically Appended Next Post: so update update.. I started the last sterngaurd veteran by glueing him to his base that's it
painted up the captain a bit.. i like his banner already.. and definetly the skull and imperial wings on the side..
cc??
bad quallity pics sorry
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
So it has been a while.. first up: the captain 99% complete.. his banner needs to be done and he's finished second: the last sterngaurd started painting I finished 2 PC guys for my dev squad.. and I added a deathwind launcher to my pod.. I am you huge fan of the WYSIWYG rinciple.. I really dislike 'counts as' (although my captain is an exception to this  ) I am trying to get a 2000pts armylist painted within 2 weeks so.. I still have to paint about 10 models.. mostly infantry.. tacticals and some scouts as well so what do you think? I really like how the white came out on the deathwind, I was afriad it would look blotchy C&C welcome
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Post by: RutgerMan
Dev's look pain-ass! :p
for the captain, he definatly looks awesome!
get ur ass back behind ur models and paint those marines!  next time we might just fight side by side
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Devs looking good, you jjust need te highlight the black of their weapons  . Pod looks nice as well!
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Post by: writter
Haha i maked that haloëd helmet before ( but mine has failed  ). I like the kind of blue you use.
cheers jelle
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very nice Joske... all look good. Really like the way to pod turned out.
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
So i left this thread stranded for too long.. time to put an end to it
i got a bit of track with my thread but now, back to the point
here's my finished sterngaurd squad, wich i finished already months ago.. i have already fielded them abd on got blown up by his own combi plasme and an other one was killed by a scattering blast of my genious droppod.. both happend in the same turn.. splendid.. but they have already proven themselves worhty on other occasioins..
Joske Out.
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Post by: Flinty
Looking very good there in a group. Nice one.
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
Thx
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Post by: xXH0LYCRUSAD3Xx
Your ultramarines could do with a slight highight on the blue parts to makes em stand out a bit more not that im critizising anyone .
Dont get me wrong it looks great but the blue needs more highlights.
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
@ holycrusade: i'm not getting you wron  but i'm not going to touch them anymore but thanks for the tip although it isn't really clear in the pics but they have their share of highlights they look great on the battlefield and that's enough for me
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Post by: moonshine
Someones been busy. Looking good, the highlights are a little bit extreme imo but it looks good overall.
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Post by: mikewars85
well it('s not very hard if i have time i will make tutorial of it but here's some info you can use:
1 drill three or more holes in your tank hull make shure you have 1 big one surounded by smaller ones
2 (hard one) look for some spare sprue and light it up until the top is melted (melta  ) dab the melted plastic over the sides of the holes you had drilled (do this in a wel ventilated room and blablabla)
3 let it harden for a couple of hours
4 keep doing this until you have the desired effect
5 painting: start with red gore to blood red to blazing orange and at last a tiny bit of sunburst yellow
Hmmmmmmmmm nothing like adding real melted stuff and starting fires to add to the overall effect of the Rhino. Awesome and thanks for that description. I have more then enough spare sprues and plenty of lighters! To make it easier, wouldn't a less "sturdy" plastic work. Because the sprues are kinda thick and dense. I was thinking maybe something along the lines of plastic wrap or maybe cut strips from a coke bottle and let those drip. IMO they are thinner and thus easier to melt/work with. I'm DEFINITELY not talking ish about your battle damage because it's more then realistic and impressive, but what are you thoughts on using a thinner type of plastic? Automatically Appended Next Post: PS i need to compliment myself on the FAIL when it came to quoting you
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Post by: Joske De Veteraan
well.. about the thinner plastic I would say : Why the h*ll not?  it never came up in my mind bcause the sprue melts qiute easy and it's another path to walk for the sprue instead of the usual "path of garbage" ^^ but you should try out the thinner plastic if you want.. but it might burn up before you can actually use the melted plastic.. thinner plastic means it melts faster but it also hardens faster and burns up faster.. but it's worth the try  thx f comments and adds ^^
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