I know a lot of people that don't know of this man, but this is Edward "Bear" Grylls.
Grylls is a survival expert who puts himself into some crazy situations to, as he says "keep you alive" if you are ever in these situations.
This is Bear on the TV show.
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My question to Dakka is, "Do you think that Bear is insane?" I, for one, think he is. He goes through unnecessary hardships for ratings, and has given himself a saltwater enema mid-show (Don't worry, there are pictures for those interested, but I'm not going to post them.)
and constantly drinks his own urine. He puts him and his camera crew in danger every time he goes out, and goes into these situations with nothing but a backpack and a knife.
The question now falls on you, Dakka. Is he a survival expert, helping people, or is he a madman, obsessed with the rush of adrenaline.
Avatar 720 wrote:He's one of those fake professionals; everyone knows that behind the nearest hill is an army of back-up crew, doctors, advisors etc.
If he'd gone out with a back-pack, a knife and some camera crew only, they'd be long dead.
I'd imagine that the camera crew is well provided for (or they could be just as crazy, who knows?). But I you can't really say without a doubt that he enjoys the comforts of civilisation when off-screen, though there probably is medical aid on hand if he really mucks up.
Now, as for real survivalist hard men, Ray Mears is a good choice. I would also recommend Bruce Parry. Former Marine who goes and hangs out with native tribes and does crazy tribal gak.
Les Stroud is a legend. I like it because he's not unbelievably skilled- he's a crap fisherman, for example, but he still pulls some amazing innovation out of his ass. Starting a fire with chocolate and a can was my favourite. Ray Mears knows tonnes, but he's not as charming as Les.
My brother and I always watch Survivorman when we get together, but then, we've always been into trekking around the "wilderness" (not too much of that in ireland).
Da Boss wrote:My brother and I always watch Survivorman when we get together, but then, we've always been into trekking around the "wilderness" (not too much of that in ireland).
nonsence, bear grylls did an episode on Ireland, go jump in a bog to claim a dead sheep so you have a sheepskin wrap for the night
I like his shows, but yeah just like every other "reality" show, it's 99% staged.
Take it for what it is, a TV show, and TV shows are entertainment even if you think you're learning something.
On that note, I kinda like that show with the army ranger guy and his Australian newscaster wife. But the one with the other army guy and the barefoot hippy wasn't as good.
They need to make a show about how to survive 2012 when the aliens come to eat us.
Bear Grylls is a tough dude with some real survival qualifications. He's also entertaining. That said, his show is a joke. He's not really stranded, he's with cameramen, and they fake some stuff (like the raft he allegedly built for the desert island episode).
Cub Grylls should be ashamed of his thinly veiled façade. Not only is it fake, his irrational "expeditions" into caves are incredibly dangerous. He takes one flashlight (I don't care how well it's made, don't tempt fate, take three), he's got little water and almost no food. I would hate to think that someone would use anything from his show as something real.
Eh, I don't like some of the times he kills animals, like the alligator (or crocodile). It seemed to me to be a waste since he was only showing how to kill one to eat it, and it didn't look like he ate all of it. (Yes, I have seen the episode where it says that his camera crew eat whatever he kills, but still)
On the other hand, the time he ate caterpillars and started feeling unwell was kind of funny to me, but that was more along the lines of 'he shouldn't eat strange bugs'.
On the other hand, the time he ate caterpillars and started feeling unwell was kind of funny to me, but that was more along the lines of 'he shouldn't eat strange bugs'.
At least it's not like one of those cooking things where you have a dvd that you follow through the stages with the host.
"And now you can eat the bug."
*eats the bug*
"Crap... apparently I shouldn't have done that... yeah, don't eat the bug."
On the other hand, the time he ate caterpillars and started feeling unwell was kind of funny to me, but that was more along the lines of 'he shouldn't eat strange bugs'.
At least it's not like one of those cooking things where you have a dvd that you follow through the stages with the host.
"And now you can eat the bug."
*eats the bug*
"Crap... apparently I shouldn't have done that... yeah, don't eat the bug."
*annoyed face*
Yeah it's also worth watching for his face when he eats bugs.
mattyrm wrote: Ray Mears is a fat knacker, you can't tell me he eats nothing but moss!
He doesn't live at sustinence level when he isn't filming an episode. I'm sure when he is back home he devours food so that he keeps that layer of blubber to help him survive.
I used to watch Bear alot. Then one day during a repeat show, I said screw it and watched Les Stroud. I hated Bear from then on. Les is a badass. A badass with a harp
Albatross wrote:I wouldn't call Grylls a total 'fraud' necessarily - he was in the UK Special Forces Reserve. I'm sure he knows his stuff.
It is, however, a TV show. Let's bear that in mind.
I agree with this (although Bruce Parry bores me senseless). Although his shows may be staged, Bear does produce good television and is plenty qualified.
However, Ray Mears is a ledge, although no where near as entertaining. Also, is it bad that I don't know who Les Stroud is? Admittedly, I am a brit...
Also, has anyone noticed how wherever he is, Bear Gryll's always climbs a tree? My brother noticed this; wherever he may be he will always find a tree to climb. Always...
Wiki wrote: In 1990 Stroud became a guide for Black Feather Wilderness Adventures leading canoe excursions into the Northern Ontario wilds.[3] It was also during this time while on a survival course he met his future wife, photographer Sue Jamison.[2] They married in 1994 and together left for a year-long honeymoon in the remote Wabakimi area of Ontario which was to become the basis of the documentary Snowshoes and Solitude. Afterward, the couple moved to Yellowknife in the Northwest Territories where Stroud was employed as an outdoor instructor to special needs individuals of aboriginal descent.[7] Stroud and Jamison then settled in Huntsville, Ontario, and started the outdoor instructional outfit Wilderness Voice and the media company Wilderness Spirit Productions.[6] Inspired by the popularity of the television show Survivor, Stroud pitched a more authentic version of the show to The Discovery Channel Canada. Stroud produced two programs titled One Week in the Wilderness and Winter in the Wilderness for @discovery.ca in 2001.[2] The success of these specials led to the development of Survivorman, a show that followed a similar format of leaving Stroud on his own, with minimal equipment, in the wilderness to videotape his survival experience.
wiki wrote:After his marriage to Jamison in 1994, the two of them spent one year in the Canadian wilderness living a paleolithic existence. They traveled to Goldsborough Lake (50°41′55″N 89°20′46″W / 50.69861°N 89.34611°W / 50.69861; -89.34611) deep in the Wabakimi and built a cabin with no metal, plastic, or otherwise manufactured tools. They took a store of traditional foods and attempted to supplement it by hunting and trapping. Family and medical emergencies brought them out of the bush on two occasions. Stroud filmed their primitive living experience and released the 50 minute documentary, Snowshoes and Solitude, which was named Best Documentary at the Muskoka Film Festival and Best Film at the Waterwalker Film Festival.[13]
In 2001 Stroud produced two one-hour specials for the science news show @discovery.ca. These segments follow the same format as Survivorman with Stroud filming his own survival in the wilderness. They were originally broadcast as daily segments over the course of one week but were repackaged as two one-hour specials titled Stranded.[2] The popularity of these pilots spawned the show Survivorman. Stroud produced 23 episodes of the show which began airing in 2004.[2] Stroud also composed and performed the opening theme music of Survivorman.[14]
we've always been into trekking around the "wilderness" (not too much of that in ireland).
You must have missed old Bears episode set out West then He slept in a sheep if I recall.
I've been out the Wesht indeed, did some research on hill sheep in Mayo and a trek around Kerry and some rambling around Galway. Few and far between are the places where you're more than a days walk in any direction away from some sort of man made shelter, and probably, a small village with a shop .
The weather is foul enough to make it a tough environment to survive in (more because it's unpredictable than because it's extreme) but compared to some other areas of the world (large tracts of the americas come to mind) it's not that bad for surviving in. Plenty of easily scroungable grub on the coast too!
so why is bear grylls more popular is he's more of a fake?
Because he humiliates himself on tv. Seriously, who gives a gak about who can or can't survive in the wild? What matters is that when Grylls jumps out of a plane you know he's going to end up eating a bug, and probably drink his own wee.
Goliath wrote:He climbed everest at the age of 23, and is the youngest chief scout since Robert Baden-Powell (the guy who formed the scout movement).
But of course people on the internet say that he's fake, so he must be!!
Not only was it leaked, but I believe he also confirmed that during his Born Survivor series, sections of it were faked. You can simply type 'Bear Grylls Fake' or 'Bear Grylls News' into Google and you'll find a good number of links to the story from credible sources.
I thought he was interesting before I found out it was fake.
I guess the sad part was that he went to THE WEST OF IRELAND,now I'm Irish,I've been to the west,it's great,a house every few kilometre,it's nowhere near DANGEROUS WILDERNESS like he was saying.
You know, the title of this thread is a little weighted.
Also, I always thought he was stupid.
"Look at this dead camel in the middle of the dessert, I will now cut him open and drink his..."
"Look at this cliff (15 feet tall at most), I will now jump down, and if I roll when I hit the bottom it won't kill/hurt me as much..."
...
Les Stroud is amazing. Operating his cameras is probably one of the biggest things that makes him amazing. He always sets of his cameras for dynamic walks, and to make everything more interesting, but it extremely costing physically to walk twice as far as you normally would just for the cameras.
I hardly ever watch this type of gak, i find the whole civvie "soldier man" shows ridiculous, however I did see him eat a big grub once when my nephew was watching it, and this was entirely lol worthy.
Excuse the quality, but i wanted to find a nice 10 second long one, and this was the only showing.
He's a poser who heads out with a full camera crew on his "dropped alone in the wilderness" trips. The biggest example I can think of is the episode where he went into Alaska (I think?) and while sliding down a slippery slope, the camera followed behind, held steady and on subject by an experienced hand. If you want the real deal, watch "Survivorman". That guy just drops into the wilderness with nothing more than a camera.
Yeah, it's faked. So what? He's still cooler than all you guys.
Whatever Grylls may be, he certainly isn't cool. He humiliates himself for money. That's basically about as not cool as you can get.
No I will disagree with you there. Making an ass of yourself or faking something for cash doesnt make you uncool. Infact it makes you a badass rich man with a Scrooge McDuck bank full of money. It might make you shallow, but not uncool. Hell Id sell out for a gak load of money
*warning, the S word is in this one*
KingCracker wrote:No I will disagree with you there. Making an ass of yourself or faking something for cash doesnt make you uncool. Infact it makes you a badass rich man with a Scrooge McDuck bank full of money. It might make you shallow, but not uncool. Hell Id sell out for a gak load of money
No, it makes you not cool. Seriously, the guy is no doubt loaded, but he is and always will be the guy who ate bugs and drank his own wee for money. You can't do that and still be cool.
KingCracker wrote:No I will disagree with you there. Making an ass of yourself or faking something for cash doesnt make you uncool. Infact it makes you a badass rich man with a Scrooge McDuck bank full of money. It might make you shallow, but not uncool. Hell Id sell out for a gak load of money
No, it makes you not cool. Seriously, the guy is no doubt loaded, but he is and always will be the guy who ate bugs and drank his own wee for money. You can't do that and still be cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km0_vOE_2XE
At work so I can't see the video...
I just cant get it to work! *sobs*
ok Ill quote it, frmo SpaceBalls
Lonestar: We're not just doing it for the money...............We're doing it for a GAK load of money!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, say what you want, he drank his pee, something any of us could have done, and made a gak load of money. Trust me, hes a cool guy
KingCracker wrote:No I will disagree with you there. Making an ass of yourself or faking something for cash doesnt make you uncool. Infact it makes you a badass rich man with a Scrooge McDuck bank full of money. It might make you shallow, but not uncool. Hell Id sell out for a gak load of money
No, it makes you not cool. Seriously, the guy is no doubt loaded, but he is and always will be the guy who ate bugs and drank his own wee for money. You can't do that and still be cool.
KingCracker wrote:Also, say what you want, he drank his pee, something any of us could have done, and made a gak load of money. Trust me, hes a cool guy
Debasing yourself is not cool, no matter how profitable it is. It can be a decision you admire or even one you'd look to emulate, but it isn't cool.
KingCracker wrote:Sure sure, your just jaded because you didnt think of doing something that stupid and actually getting paid for it.
I didn't say I wouldn't do it. I'm not cool as it is, why not be rich and not cool?
But that doesn't make him cool
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whatwhat wrote:Saying the word cool without a sense of irony is uncool.
Defining what is cool isn't cool. Unless it's done with irony, then it's cool. Unless you then have to explain that it was done with irony, because that'd make it not cool. Unless that explanation was also ironic, then it'd be cool again.
whatwhat wrote:Saying the word cool without a sense of irony is uncool.
Defining what is cool isn't cool. Unless it's done with irony, then it's cool. Unless you then have to explain that it was done with irony, because that'd make it not cool. Unless that explanation was also ironic, then it'd be cool again.
So wait, you dont think its even slightly cool, to make millions for eatting a bug or drinking piss? What better, more effective way is there to "stick it to the man" to get loaded from something so stupid?!?!?
The thing is when you are talking to Sebster about Bear Grylls you have to realise that Sebster is Australian. And compared to the Australian survivormen Steve Irwin and Crocodile Dundee, Bear Grylls looks like a wuss. In Australia you are nowhere until you have dry humped a crocodile.
KingCracker wrote:So wait, you dont think its even slightly cool, to make millions for eatting a bug or drinking piss? What better, more effective way is there to "stick it to the man" to get loaded from something so stupid?!?!?
Probably something involving retaining human dignity.
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whatwhat wrote:The thing is when you are talking to Sebster about Bear Grylls you have to realise that Sebster is Australian. And compared to the Australian survivormen Steve Irwin and Crocodile Dundee, Bear Grylls looks like a wuss. In Australia you are nowhere until you have dry humped a crocodile.
Paul Hogan moved to the US, got loads of plastic surgery and then wracked up a huge tax debt that it looks like he's going to avoid having to pay. We kind of like him for the last bit, but the first two are unforgiveable.
Steve Irwin is basically a US phenomenon. Most people in Australia had never heard of him until his show became this huge US hit.
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KingCracker wrote:Oh I didnt even think about that.
Is it sad that their countries heroes are Paul Hogan and Steve Irwin?
whatwhat wrote:The thing is when you are talking to Sebster about Bear Grylls you have to realise that Sebster is Australian. And compared to the Australian survivormen Steve Irwin and Crocodile Dundee, Bear Grylls looks like a wuss. In Australia you are nowhere until you have dry humped a crocodile.
Paul Hogan moved to the US, got loads of plastic surgery and then wracked up a huge tax debt that it looks like he's going to avoid having to pay. We kind of like him for the last bit, but the first two are unforgiveable.
Steve Irwin is basically a US phenomenon. Most people in Australia had never heard of him until his show became this huge US hit.
Yeh...I was taking the piss. Not, I must add, pissing in a cup and drinking it. That would not be cool. It would however make me a gak load of money, so I hear.
whatwhat wrote:Yeh...I was taking the piss. Not, I must add, pissing in a cup and drinking it. That would not be cool. It would however make me a gak load of money, so I hear.
I knew you were joking, by the way. I just wanted to point out what's become of Paul Hogan.
whatwhat wrote:Well thank you. Who is the skater in the picture? Out of interest.
Steven Bradbury, Australia's first Winter Olympics gold medallist. Which is pretty impressive and worthy by itself when you consider that Australia is a really hot and flat place, so there's really no snow at all.
But he becomes completely awesome when you realise that he won because everyone else fell over. Seriously, he was coming dead last in the speed skating but then everyone else fell over, and that shot is him sailing past realising he's just won Gold because everyone else is lying on the ground.
Yes Gryll's has admitted that he faked many parts in the series "Man Vs. Wild" but you cannot ignore that he has done some pretty heavy stuff (SAS experience etc and if your in that deep i think he can survive for himself, he just takes the easier more 'thrilling' option and in return big $$) - if you actually are interested in watching some legit gak from Grylls watch his earlier episodes or from his other programs, my personal favourite is "Escape to the Legion" i enjoyed that doco and you can watch it all on youtube.
tl;dr - you shouldn't discredit someone from a perspective of 1 tv show.
you shouldn't discredit someone from a perspective of 1 tv show.
Why not? He willingly misled the public through several series of the TV Show, and didn't admit it until it was made public. It doesn't matter if it's 1 show or 100 shows, he has irreparably tarnished his own reputation by agreeing to and participating in faked shows that were relayed as truth.
I don't care if he's done any more 'amazing' stuff, because I have to be told by other sources that it is truth before I believe it. I should be able to watch the programme and think "Wow, he did that?" not "Huh, can't be too hard to fake that." but he broke that level of trust between himself and his viewers.
Take a football match, if someone deliberately goes in hard on a guy and breaks his leg, then the tackler will forever have that hung over him, and nothing he can do will remove that stain from his reputation; even if it was only 1 game.
tl;dr Doesn't matter how many shows he did it in, the fact is that he deliberately did it.
I can understand where your coming from, but it shouldn't stop you from watching his other shows, for example the tackler can always gain lost reputation through hard work and honesty... (which i believe is shown through other series, esp. bear grylls). Each to his own though - its your choice/opinion.
Avatar 720 wrote: I should be able to watch the programme and think "Wow, he did that?" not "Huh, can't be too hard to fake that."
Yeeeaaah. . . no. So he doesn't actually go out alone in the wilderness with nothing but a knife and a backpack. The stuff he does on his show are still things that the average fat lump on the sofa watching wouldn't be able to do.
I mean look at it this way, your the one sitting on your duff watching tv, not him.
Also, he became the youngest Brit to climb Mt. Everest. . . . after he broke his back in a parachuting accident while serving with the SAS.
You've done this on a lot your posts recently, i'm just wondering if it has anything at all to do with what you're replying to. Ever.
Anyway, I don't see what any of your post has to do with anything. You picked a small line to base something off, ignoring multiple facts and other lines that already detail what I think.
But he's a total fake, right?
Amazing, you can be sarcastic, how original. (See, I can do it too.)
In future please try not to ignore the majority of the posts on a thread before posting in it.
You've done this on a lot your posts recently, i'm just wondering if it has anything at all to do with what you're replying to. Ever.
Anyway, I don't see what any of your post has to do with anything. You picked a small line to base something off, ignoring multiple facts and other lines that already detail what I think.
But he's a total fake, right?
Amazing, you can be sarcastic, how original. (See, I can do it too.)
In future please try not to ignore the majority of the posts on a thread before posting in it.
Oh, I'm sorry. Would it help smooth over your rumpled feelings if I replied to the rest of your post? I could do that if it would make you feel better. (But not really, I'm just being sarcastic because I'm so darn original.)
you shouldn't discredit someone from a perspective of 1 tv show.
Why not? He willingly misled the public through several series of the TV Show, and didn't admit it until it was made public. It doesn't matter if it's 1 show or 100 shows, he has irreparably tarnished his own reputation by agreeing to and participating in faked shows that were relayed as truth.
"He mislead the public"? it's an entertainment show not a public service announcement. Come on, most TV is scripted. It's really no big surprise. Top Gear do it all the time, why aren't you blasting them for faking races between para gliders and Aston Martins.
Because it's more obvious? Top Gear is a laugh (although I don't like the show) and isn't made to give you hard facts at all times; a survival show isn't comparable to a car show like Top Gear.
Perhaps the problem is you take Bear Grylls too seriously then. IMO anyone who sees his shows in the factual genre is clearly off their head. Most TV is scripted, even in serious documentaries most of the images you see are the result of the production team going 'can you just walk down this hallway again, we missed you the first time.' It's not a crime. If you want to hold a grudge against Bear Grylls for the rest of your life because somehow you feel hard done by that he didn't actually sleep in the woods one night then go ahead. Just don't expect anyone else to be on the same level.
Someone who's really earned my respect lately is Steve Backshall.
Very clever, very brave, very good presenter.
He's not some showboater like a lot of the others. And he doesn't hide the fact that he has a team with him, though to be fair when they're on expeditions in the jungle/tundra they're all sleeping with him in tents/hammocks.
He's great.
Also he could rip either Bear or Irwin in two; he's a black belt in karate.
Les Stroud still wins. He actually DOES the survival, and he does it alon;, carting the damn camera by himself, dealing with its weight, keeping it intact, etc. And setting up all the shots means he has to trek basically twice as far and take far more than twice as much time to do everything.
GazzyG wrote:Someone who's really earned my respect lately is Steve Backshall.
Very clever, very brave, very good presenter.
He's not some showboater like a lot of the others. And he doesn't hide the fact that he has a team with him, though to be fair when they're on expeditions in the jungle/tundra they're all sleeping with him in tents/hammocks.
He's great.
Also he could rip either Bear or Irwin in two; he's a black belt in karate.
And he's built like a brick gakhouse...
Holy crap, I just thought he was a CBBC presenter!
Mannahnin wrote:Les Stroud still wins. He actually DOES the survival, and he does it alon;, carting the damn camera by himself, dealing with its weight, keeping it intact, etc. And setting up all the shots means he has to trek basically twice as far and take far more than twice as much time to do everything.
...and yet, at the end of all that he still just comes out with a TV show. Who's the idiot again? The dude who spends the night in a hotel?
OK...
They are shows about survival, they are ostensibly instructional programmes for the purpose of entertainment. Surviving in the wilderness can KILL YOU - that's why it's called 'survival'. As a bloke who's done SAS selection (the most challenging in the world, I might add), Grylls would be acutely aware of this, probably more than most. Why should he risk his life for our entertainment?
I certainly wouldn't.
P.S - I'm not a massive fan of Bear Grylls or anything, just wanted to try and put things into perspective a little.
Murray wrote:Yes Gryll's has admitted that he faked many parts in the series "Man Vs. Wild" but you cannot ignore that he has done some pretty heavy stuff (SAS experience etc and if your in that deep i think he can survive for himself, he just takes the easier more 'thrilling' option and in return big $$) - if you actually are interested in watching some legit gak from Grylls watch his earlier episodes or from his other programs, my personal favourite is "Escape to the Legion" i enjoyed that doco and you can watch it all on youtube.
tl;dr - you shouldn't discredit someone from a perspective of 1 tv show.
Who gives a gak if he's really a hard man? It's like pointing out that wrestlers really are very strong men, as if that's some kind of counter to the point that they're pretending to fight each other.
Ask most people about Bear Grylls, and hardly anyone will say 'that guy is great and because he's such an experienced survival expert I now a lot about what to do if I was ever stranded in the wilderness'. Instead they'll tell you 'that's the guy that eats bugs and drinks his own wee, isn't he?'
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Albatross wrote:P.S - I'm not a massive fan of Bear Grylls or anything, just wanted to try and put things into perspective a little.
I think the perspective is that none of these shows are really about teaching personal survival. Because actual personal survival involves telling people 'don't go into the wilderness by yourself' and 'take an emergency beacon, it works like this...' and other boring information.
These shows are basically hard men fantasies. That's why it's so important to people in this thread which guy is actually the hardest man.
Mannahnin wrote:Les Stroud still wins. He actually DOES the survival, and he does it alon;, carting the damn camera by himself, dealing with its weight, keeping it intact, etc. And setting up all the shots means he has to trek basically twice as far and take far more than twice as much time to do everything.
...and yet, at the end of all that he still just comes out with a TV show. Who's the idiot again? The dude who spends the night in a hotel?
OK...
They are shows about survival, they are ostensibly instructional programmes for the purpose of entertainment. Surviving in the wilderness can KILL YOU - that's why it's called 'survival'. As a bloke who's done SAS selection (the most challenging in the world, I might add), Grylls would be acutely aware of this, probably more than most. Why should he risk his life for our entertainment?
I certainly wouldn't.
P.S - I'm not a massive fan of Bear Grylls or anything, just wanted to try and put things into perspective a little.
Oh, I take your point completely. And as I said earlier in the thread, the guy's got a really impressive resume and a lot of legitimate skills.
While the shows are certainly entertainment, the concept is supposedly the demonstration of real survival techniques and skills. Bear's show has the stigma of being more fake/dishonest; especially the earlier seasons, where he was not up front about the camera crew, or about sleeping in hotels, and where they genuinely faked some of the stuff he did. He never could get the raft properly together for the desert island episode, for example, so they faked it. Even the later seasons, where they put on disclaimers, still are presenting you a scenario of "man dropped in the wilderness alone" which isn't actually happening.
While you or I might think it's stupid for someone to go out in the wilds alone and genuinely risk their safety, the more real they make it, the higher a level of skill which is genuinely on display. I expect that Les packs a satellite phone, GPS, emergency signal kit (etc.) in case he were to get seriously injured so he could call for help. But he doesn't shortchange the audience on what he's doing, or lie (implicitly or explicitly) about it. He does it. The stuff that's off-camera is all the extra work he has to do to be his own camera crew. Which is really the opposite of Bear; Les is doing more work in the wild, not less. It's pretty cool and impressive to see that some folks do have and preserve these skills, even if there's no call for them in most of our lives.
Albatross wrote:Well, that would be the dude who was in the SAS, presumably...
Lots of dudes have been in the SAS, but only one of them went on to eat bugs for the amusement of stoned college kids.
I wouldn't count on it. I have a relative who was in the SAS and he's an absolute tit. He now casts garden gnomes out of cement for a living. That's two former SAS hardmen who now do stupid gak, I'm sure there are more out there.
I'm just saying, if he could do it, then why not make an accurate show, instead of pretending? If he is an awesome, can-survive-anything, former SAS awesomeguy, then why wimp out and make a fake show? He's being a poser.
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