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Post by: Mad4Minis
Eh, I dunno about this mini range...flying steampunk robots...seems a bit much to me.
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Post by: cygnnus
Cool, but not enough skulls!
Valete,
JohnS
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Post by: tinfoil
I"m loving the look, myself.
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
Chainsaw submarines. Why didn't I ever think of that?! 
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Post by: shinzuer
Nice ! But they need to get a move on with the new Firestorm Armada ships.
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Post by: Erasoketa
Anung Un Rama wrote:Chainsaw submarines. Why didn't I ever think of that?!
Cos you didn't see (or read) Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea 
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Post by: jayjester
Pic 1: Ork submersable. Oh yeah!
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
The John Henry may be what gets me to buy into this range. I have the rule book and while the setting is interesting the rules didn't really turn me on and the fluff seemed rather poorly written and derivative to the point of being painful to read. But I really like that steam robot so damn...these guys may end up squeezing a few more dollars out of me yet.
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Post by: The Dreadnote
I get a strong Metal Slug vibe from these. All the sub needs is an enormous laser turret!
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Post by: sonofruss
The squid sub has cannons on the end of the tenticals
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Post by: Mr. Burning
Ika and John Henry are piquing my interest.
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Post by: Eumerin
I was a bit surprised when I found out that the giant robot was available to the US-themed military and not the Japanese-themed military...
But stylistically, it fits. The style is definitely more American than Japanese. You'd need to go in a different direction with a Japanese-themed robot to make it look "correct". Something along the lines of Big O might work as a starting point, but it would still need to be heavily "steampunkified".
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Post by: Empchild
I like most of it, but I am not a fan of the robot.
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Post by: Eumerin
Prussian giant robot preview images are here - http://www.spartangames.co.uk/dystopian_preview_page_metzger.html
And on a tangential note, the rulebook explains that the accident described in the FSA robot's preview is the origin of the FSA phrase "Giving someone the finger."
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Post by: JOHIRA
Oh dear, someone showed the Iron Giant a gun again, didn't they.
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Post by: Scottywan82
JOHIRA wrote:Oh dear, someone showed the Iron Giant a gun again, didn't they.
You win!
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Post by: manoknok
John Henry said to his captain, a man ain’t nothin’ but a man, but if you bring that steam drill round, I’ll beat it fair and honest, I’ll die with my hammer in my hand, but I’ll be laughing, because you cant replace a steel drivin’ man
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Post by: Pael
What's not to like about this game!! I thought the storyline is awesome and the minis are spectacular. You really need to see them in person before you make a snap judgement about them. When I actually held the Prussian Sky Fortress in my hand I was shocked by the level of detail and the sheer size of it.
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Post by: sonofruss
So much so that I am painting a sky fortress for a friend and bought one for myself just to paint another one if I play I think it will be the Antarctic group
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Post by: Shellfishguy
Wow, I really like that Prussian robot. What a great line of models.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Here a preview of the Prussian Metzger (=butcher) class Robot:
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Post by: manoknok
What is the scale say to a space marine? Anyone know?
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Post by: sonofruss
This is more of an epic scale game the ships are rather tiny to big the zeppelin is about 4" long so I am guessing the robot will be rather large say 5 to 6" tall give or take.
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Post by: CT GAMER
Empchild wrote:I like most of it, but I am not a fan of the robot.
The Iron Giant dissaproves of your post...
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Post by: Manchu
Liberty Prime is not amused.
Spartan is really shaping some of this stuff up, making me eat my words. Here's hoping it just gets better.
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Post by: deleted20250424
Empchild wrote:I like most of it, but I am not a fan of the robot.
Funny thing about that to me.....
I was not interested at all in the FSA until I saw that robot.
I guess I'll have to get the FSA force going along with my Prussian and Blazing Sun.
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Post by: frozenmilk
I really like what they're doing with the models and the concept but I've yet to read any of the rules or fluff. The squid is very cool!
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Post by: Kroothawk
Some update: Different from the original plan, France will become a full fraction ... with antigrav ships 
Spartan Games wrote:When we first defined the 8 nations for the game the list was as follows:
Wave 1 – Book 1
Kingdom of Britannia
Prussian Empire
Empire of the Blazing Sun
Federated States of America (FSA)
The second set of nation releases were defined as:
Wave 2 – Book 2
Covenant of Antarctica
Russian Coalition
Ottoman Empire
League of Italian States
Mixed into this is what we call the Alliance Nations, into which we have the following nations:
Republic of France
Chinese Federation
Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
Arabian Republic of Egypt
Socialist Union of South America
As we kept developing the back story and models for the game, looking ahead to when the next sets of nations come out, we also evaluated the roles of several nations in the game. One that we decided required a change in status was France, so it changed from being an Alliance nation to a full boxed nation. This also fitted in with our plans to alter the release schedule for the Covenant of Antarctica.
We’ve been slow at rolling out information to you all this year, so my apologies for that, but the wave of support for Dystopian Wars has kept us all very busy here. Now that we’ve found our feet we’ll hopefully be articulating our plans to you all in a better way. As to the French Battleship, well its technology is some of the more advanced in use in Dystopian Wars, albeit stolen from the Covenant by the misguided Markov.
As you can see from many of the models in the game the idea of lightweight alloys that allow giant machines of war to fly or hover is commonplace. Just look at the John Henry Robot or Prussian Sky Imperium Fortress. The French Battleship brings the concept of anti-gravity motion to the world, the model being more of a skimmer than a flying ship as such – it also floats and uses the anti-gravity modules for manoeuvring. More flying models will follow and more exciting technologies to hopefully amuse you and make your game play enjoyable.(...)
New Alliance ships models are developing well. Getting renders and some web pages made soon. Includes out first two Dreadnought models.
Repair Space Station model finished. We're most happy with this model, and has a nice scenario to go with it.
Alliance PDFs are sadly delayed, that's my fault. Other guys have done their bit, I just haven't had chance to assemble all the bits yet.
New documents for the web site include: Spartan Games Space Pirate Rules and Stats, new Civilian Vessel rules and Stats, Space Station and Installation rules and Stats.
Here is also a preview of Dystopian terrain:
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Post by: Scottywan82
This is why I lovehate SG. NOTHING!!! For a month plus. Then this.
Every time I get out... yeah.
Wait, where is:
New Alliance ships models are developing well. Getting renders and some web pages made soon. Includes out first two Dreadnought models.
Repair Space Station model finished. We're most happy with this model, and has a nice scenario to go with it.
Alliance PDFs are sadly delayed, that's my fault. Other guys have done their bit, I just haven't had chance to assemble all the bits yet.
New documents for the web site include: Spartan Games Space Pirate Rules and Stats, new Civilian Vessel rules and Stats, Space Station and Installation rules and Stats.
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Post by: Neconilis
sonofruss wrote:This is more of an epic scale game the ships are rather tiny to big the zeppelin is about 4" long so I am guessing the robot will be rather large say 5 to 6" tall give or take.
Indeed, it is 1:1200 scale if that helps anyone out.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Preview of some terrain:
And some Zeppelins from some weeks before:
More previews of the upcoming land units can be found here: http://www.spartangames.co.uk/dystopian_wars_previews.html
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Post by: Scottywan82
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Post by: infinite_array
That's great, and all.
But where the heck are the Land unit boxes?! That's what I'm really waiting for.
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Post by: Aduro
They've previewed the first of the Dreadnoughts, in this case being the Americans'.
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Post by: Aduro
Yep, they post the Destroyer and Escort previews two days after I cut up some Frigates to make some. On the plus side however, my Destroyers and Escorts weren't (aren't) finished, so now I get some pictures to better base mine on.
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Post by: Aduro
I was saddened to learn that Beam Turrets were a description of their location on the ship in nautical terms and that the thing was not actually packing a pair of sponson mounted laser cannons.
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Post by: infinite_array
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I'm getting those FSA blimps. And the dreadnought!
Now, here's the two reasons why I'm angry at Spartan Games:
1. Land units pushed back. C'mon! Most people have terrain for land battles. I really think Land/Air games are what's really going to push DW.
2. Sea and Air Carriers. Not cool. The Prussians and Asians get the awesome flying air fields, and the Americans and British have to put-put around in the Ocean. This will be forgiven, however, immediately upon the release of the Savannah class flying carrier.
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Post by: Scottywan82
I'm excited for the Prussian Dreadnaught next week!
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Post by: Obsidian Raven
The website and all its pictures are dead for me?
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Post by: Kroothawk
The Prussian Dreadnought in a preview:
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Post by: Aduro
Comparison picture of all four Dreads while we're at it.
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Post by: Pael
The dreadnoughts look amazing and the scale is perfect for this game.
When is the release of the land boxes then?
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Post by: Dez
May as far as I know, I haven't had a visit to the Spartan Forums in a while though.
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Post by: Son 0f Dorn
Kroothawk wrote:The Prussian Dreadnought in a preview:
Kroothawk, I just want to thank you for being so awesome. You are always on top of stuff like this and it's a huge help for folks like myself whose web-fu is weak. Thank you. 
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Post by: Grimstonefire
Do they have any pictures with a proper measuring scale next to them like a ruler?
All well and good saying 'its this big compared to X', but at some point you'd need to know how big something was....
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Post by: Kroothawk
Son 0f Dorn wrote:Kroothawk, I just want to thank you for being so awesome. You are always on top of stuff like this and it's a huge help for folks like myself whose web-fu is weak. Thank you.
Welcome!
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Post by: Son 0f Dorn
Grimstonefire wrote:Do they have any pictures with a proper measuring scale next to them like a ruler?
All well and good saying 'its this big compared to X', but at some point you'd need to know how big something was....
The big ships are bigger than they look. If you want actual foot-print size, I'd check out the Dystopian Wars trays at Battlefoam's website. Here's a basic picture, however. Hope it helps.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
This game is looking really good, how are the mechanics? Is it fun?
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Post by: Aduro
It's really fun so far, but there are some balance issues with some of the models, and a general opinion that Sky>Sea>Land on a point per point basis. Spartan has a good track record of fixing stuff though, so I've good hopes that it'll get sorted out.
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Post by: Duncan_Idaho
As always with Spartan the rules are a mess (rules all over the book, instead of where you would expect them) and they really need to get a proof-reader. Hopefully they will fix it with second edition of the book, but don't count on it.
Rules are interesting when you get what they wanted to say, but are often formulated with the intention of being idiot-proof and thus feel sometimes like a law-text.
You really need to be a fan of exploding sixes to enjoy this core mechanic, sadly I am not and I think ith creates more balance issues than it helps. Also, some optional rules really need some fixing. The dimensional portals really can change the game in favor of one side.
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Post by: Scottywan82
Also, it is only fun if people actually PLAY IT. In my area at least it is the number one game that is purchased and then never seen again. I see at least one starter a week walk out the door and have seen only two games played ever.
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Post by: Aduro
It's about like that in my area too, but the game is only just picking up, with an escalation campaign starting next week, but I think three times the people who have played it have purchased it.
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Post by: Daba
I like the Brittainia dreadnought a lot, looks really majestic. Glad I chose them to start due to the ship designs (though I might start Prussia too sometime, as I like their airships and land vehicles).
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Post by: sonofruss
Still waiting for the Antarctica faction 
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Post by: Duncan_Idaho
The same here too. Quite a following on the internet, but rarley one plays it.
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Post by: spireland
Nice models. Especially the robo-squid.
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Post by: army310
this game alot of fun if you are thinking about buying it I would. And its cheap to $50 gets you a navy.
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Post by: insaniak
Very cool stuff. The artwork of the plane/saucer thing is cool. And I love the waterline titan... great idea, and beautifully executed.
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Post by: Scottywan82
Love the watery Metzger!
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Post by: Ghaz
Some info on upcoming releases from Spartan Neil on the Spartan Games forum:
Hi,
As the game has developed, so the schedule for models has been modified. The initial plan was to release four nations (which as you know are the Prussians, Britannia, Blazing Sun and FSA) and then another four nations (Antarcticans, Russians, Ottomans and Italians). But the driving forces behind the release schedule changed and the French were upgarded to a core boxed nation, with the Antarcticans assuming an independent release schedule.
So what this means is that we have the first four nations, the Antarcticans will arrive on their own, driving a series of game development plotlines, and then the next four nations will arrive. Before the next four nations arrive the key military models from the rule book will arrive. Scenery (including bunkers and so on) are being handled as an independent release, the first blisters of which will be detailed shortly.
This month we have rolled out the Dreadnoughts, Escorts and Destroyers for the four nations and next month we have the Specials coming out. Our mould room are working hard to manufacture DW releases, so while I am sure I cannot make all of your worries go away, you should know that the roll out schedule for models for the first four nations is far from standing still.
Cheers,
Spartan Neil
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Post by: Absolutionis
Scottywan82 wrote:Also, it is only fun if people actually PLAY IT. In my area at least it is the number one game that is purchased and then never seen again. I see at least one starter a week walk out the door and have seen only two games played ever.
This is one of the biggest reasons I cannot get into anything by Spartan Games. They started by making Uncharted Seas, then they created Firestorm ARmada, and now they have Distopian Wars. All these games appeal to very similar audiences and the games themselves are competing against each other.
I thought of picking up Uncharted Seas one time because I liked the look of the Steampunk Shroud Mages; then I realized people around me were starting up Firestorm Armada. They're producing too much too fast. Usually that would be a good thing, but they're fragmenting their fan base and somewhat neglecting their older games.
Uncharted Seas has eight factions now; some factions have less than eight models created for them!
Firestorm Armada is even worse. There are nine factions in the game and each faction has less than nine models.
Dystopian Wars currently has only four factions with a decent amount of models each... however another four factions are on their way?
Plus they have a scifi ground combat game in the works - Firestorm Invasion. If I start Dystopian Wars today, how long so I have until Spartan Games shifts their entire focus on that new game?
I'm really hesitant to start any of these games whatsoever because I'm afraid by the time I have a sizeable force, Spartan Games will have created another two entire games and nobody in my area would care. I wish their releases would focus more on specific games rather than creating new games and new factions all the time.
Games Workshop is the largest miniatures game company in the world and they do well with only two games (kinda three with LotR). Each of the factions across all games has move 30-ish models. GW may be slow in giving love to armies, but when they do it's in a huge lump chunk; then they come around and give extra tender love to Space Marines.
Privateer Press may have two main games, but they're intercompatible and they release periodic units for each faction. Warmahordes has 10-ish factions and each faction has well over 50+ models.
Other companies such as Corvus Belli, Wyrd, and DP9 focus on one game each. Each of these companies has well over 40 or so models per faction.
Focus on one game and maybe I'll care enough to invest my time in a game. Until then, people will continue to treat Spartan Games's games as a fleeting curiosity at worst or a short-lasting fad at best.
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Post by: sonofruss
In the dystopian world the navy and land combat are the same game just different venues land sea can be fought at the same time with the same rules
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Post by: Duncan_Idaho
@Absolutionis
Short-Attention-Span Syndrome?
I really would like to get into their games, but they always seem to go for the next big toy they see, which especially hurts their rulebooks.
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Post by: zedmeister
Must... Resist...
I've been watching Uncharted Seas and Dystopian Wars for a while. Never been keen on the look of the Uncharted Seas stuff. However, the Dystropian Wars goodies just keep calling my name. I have a particular weakness for Naval Wargames.
No, I can't buy more models!
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Post by: Daba
They're very reasonably priced! 13 ships + 2 planes + 10 fighter tokens + templates all in the starter sets!
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Post by: Arm.chair.general
Hmm interesting models, cannot wait to see more... I quite like Steampunk
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Post by: Pael
@Absolutionis
Just wait. What better time to come into a game than at the beginning. Wait until it gets popular in your area to start playing the game. Wait until the company is big enough to support their games etc. etc. This game is cheap enough that when you do start to play you can drop $100 dollars on it or pounds and be up and running with the best of them.
Waiting will also allow you to learn from other's mistakes. You will not have to go through everyone else's trial and error tp find the army style you like to play.
If the game collapses then no skin off your nose.
Really by waiting the only thing you are missing out on is the fun, but spend that time in a game you already enjoy.
As to why the DW is getting all the attention I believe it is because it is pulling the bulk of the revenue, but that is only my guess. The other guess of mine is that is how they planned it. Release US and FA because the support for those games wouldn't be such a task. While DW wars requires a lot more support because of it's scope to be initially successful.
Meaning to play FA and US you only need the fleet of ships so pretty simple to get started. This could be the same for DW except for all of the other "promised" ways to play.
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Post by: Alpharius
Will all factions be getting giant robot walker titan things?
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Post by: Scottywan82
Absolutionis wrote:Scottywan82 wrote:Also, it is only fun if people actually PLAY IT. In my area at least it is the number one game that is purchased and then never seen again. I see at least one starter a week walk out the door and have seen only two games played ever.
This is one of the biggest reasons I cannot get into anything by Spartan Games. They started by making Uncharted Seas, then they created Firestorm ARmada, and now they have Distopian Wars. All these games appeal to very similar audiences and the games themselves are competing against each other.
Well, I don't know about your FLGS, but in mine this is not the problem. the issue is literally lots buy and no one plays. Not any of the games. FA is played a bit, but only by a group who have no interest in the other Spartan games. If I even SAW a group who played any of the other two I'd be interested to give it a try. But literally NO ONE plays UC or DW. They just buy DW starters and are never seen again.
It's freaking weird. Automatically Appended Next Post: Alpharius wrote:Will all factions be getting giant robot walker titan things?
Yes, either that or a submarine. Or a submarine Squid.
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Post by: malfred
Realistic paint jobs look sweet on these minis.
Too bad I went garish on mine.
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Post by: Ghaz
A little more from Spartan Neil covering some of the concerns that have been brought up here and on their forums as well:
CybreAnS:
Don`t misunderstand me, the overall release schedule is faster than expected.For example the Dread/destroyer/escort wave is a big set of models just a month after the land boxes,that's tough work
But I've seen some examples where new factions and features lead to delays of the needed basics cause they pushed out of the schedule over and over again to introduce the new stuff. That`s what I meant.
And by the way, thx for pushing away my worries Neil
Spartan Neil:
Not a problem. Dystopian Wars is bedding in very nicely and we've managed to get the groundswell under control, which is great from our end! The guys are slamming into the models they need to manufacture, and the schedule for the game, whilst having changed to accomodate the French/Antarctican roll out, is settled. But as excited as the guys are about the new fleets (my Stick of Pain enforces that!) they are eager to release the models for the current four.
I think this is more to do with fleshing out their own fleets than worrying about you guys of course!!!
Spartan Neil
Let's hope that this is indeed the case.
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Post by: Pael
I am not worried about the release schedule, for the amount they have put out for all of their games this year is pretty top notch in my opinion. There is still six months to go and they are pretty close to the original "unofficial" release schedule Neil had said.
I am excited for the new factions. Ottoman, Russian, and Convenant are all factions I know I am gonna start. Yet I do want the rest of the minitures detailed in the book released as well. All of the coastal defenses look like they will add a unique twist to the game.
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Post by: Ghaz
Dreadnoughts and Specials on the Spartan Games blog.
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Post by: Pael
Work blocked! Help us Help us!!! Can't go on much further....
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Post by: Platuan4th
I'm so torn between the Blazing Son and Empire. I like the Blazing Sun ships and Mechanical Ika, but Prussians have great Airships and the Metzger...
Could someone give me a rundown on the strengths and weaknesses of both?
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Post by: Pael
Platuan4th wrote:I'm so torn between the Blazing Son and Empire. I like the Blazing Sun ships and Mechanical Ika, but Prussians have great Airships and the Metzger...
Could someone give me a rundown on the strengths and weaknesses of both?
It is tough decision but the Blazing Sun do have that awesome walker!!!
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Post by: Ruckdog
Scottywan82 wrote:Absolutionis wrote:Scottywan82 wrote:Also, it is only fun if people actually PLAY IT. In my area at least it is the number one game that is purchased and then never seen again. I see at least one starter a week walk out the door and have seen only two games played ever.
This is one of the biggest reasons I cannot get into anything by Spartan Games. They started by making Uncharted Seas, then they created Firestorm ARmada, and now they have Distopian Wars. All these games appeal to very similar audiences and the games themselves are competing against each other.
Well, I don't know about your FLGS, but in mine this is not the problem. the issue is literally lots buy and no one plays. Not any of the games. FA is played a bit, but only by a group who have no interest in the other Spartan games. If I even SAW a group who played any of the other two I'd be interested to give it a try. But literally NO ONE plays UC or DW. They just buy DW starters and are never seen again.
It's freaking weird.
I hear you guys about the issues with building and maintaining a player base for Spartan's games...maybe we should start a thread in the Spaceship/Naval forum to discuss it?
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Post by: Alpharius
Pael wrote:Work blocked! Help us Help us!!! Can't go on much further....
Same here!
Pael wrote:Platuan4th wrote:I'm so torn between the Blazing Son and Empire. I like the Blazing Sun ships and Mechanical Ika, but Prussians have great Airships and the Metzger...
Could someone give me a rundown on the strengths and weaknesses of both?
It is tough decision but the Blazing Sun do have that awesome walker!!!
What?!?
"Awesome walker"?
Help!
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Post by: Pael
Yes Yes Yes I can't post a picture but the Blazing Suns have a Capital Class walker that can wade into shallow waters. It looks really cool.
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Post by: Alpharius
Where's the Japanese Giant Walker - it isn't that... building looking thing, is it?
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Post by: Duncan_Idaho
It is, it is, my son.
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Post by: Aduro
That's the HQ top on the walker. The other optional top if a sphere dome turret thing with a double barreled cannon.
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Post by: Uriels_Flame
As a Blazing Sun player, I can't wait. I really like this range/game.
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Post by: Eumerin
Alpharius wrote:Where's the Japanese Giant Walker - it isn't that... building looking thing, is it?
That's the only Blazing Sun walker out at present.
I believe that they have a giant humanoid robot statted out in the rulebook. iirc, none of the four starting nations have "class gaps" in their lists of units. It's just that Spartan isn't releasing everything at the same time. For instance, the Prussians and FSA get humanoid robots released, while the Britannians and Blazing Sun get their subs out first (the Blazing Sun sub is a mechanical squid). The FSA and Britannia have their water-borne aircraft carriers released, while the Prussians and Blazing Sun have their flying carriers currently available. But each of the four starting nations has stats for a humanoid robot, a submarine, a floating carrier, and a flying carrier. Spartan Games just hasn't shown us the models for all of them yet.
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Post by: Pael
Eumerin wrote:Alpharius wrote:Where's the Japanese Giant Walker - it isn't that... building looking thing, is it?
That's the only Blazing Sun walker out at present.
I believe that they have a giant humanoid robot statted out in the rulebook. iirc, none of the four starting nations have "class gaps" in their lists of units. It's just that Spartan isn't releasing everything at the same time. For instance, the Prussians and FSA get humanoid robots released, while the Britannians and Blazing Sun get their subs out first (the Blazing Sun sub is a mechanical squid). The FSA and Britannia have their water-borne aircraft carriers released, while the Prussians and Blazing Sun have their flying carriers currently available. But each of the four starting nations has stats for a humanoid robot, a submarine, a floating carrier, and a flying carrier. Spartan Games just hasn't shown us the models for all of them yet.
A little bit incorrect here. Everything is spot on except for the robots and subs. Brittania gets a sub, everyone else gets a robot. That is it. They are called the specials. Now I am not saying that eventually the love will be shared but not in the current rules are any robots listed for Brittania and they are the only one with a sub unless of course you call the squid a sub.
I do suspect that Prussia will eventually get a sub because of the story of the attack on London.
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Post by: Eumerin
Pael wrote:A little bit incorrect here. Everything is spot on except for the robots and subs. Brittania gets a sub, everyone else gets a robot. That is it. They are called the specials. Now I am not saying that eventually the love will be shared but not in the current rules are any robots listed for Brittania and they are the only one with a sub unless of course you call the squid a sub.
I stand corrected. The squid is indeed a sub, though. It's classified as a 'Large Capital Class Diving model (naval)'.
Something just seems wrong if the Japanese don't have a giant humanoid robot...
I do suspect that Prussia will eventually get a sub because of the story of the attack on London.
There's also the small detail that it's hard to think of the real-world Prussian (German) navy without thinking of submarines.
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Post by: Pael
Did we ever speculate what the teaser ship was to the left of the Plato Battleship for the Covenant of Antarctica?
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Post by: Alpharius
Eumerin wrote:
Something just seems wrong if the Japanese don't have a giant humanoid robot...
Too true!
I can't wait to see what it looks like...
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Post by: Ghaz
It will probably look like a robotic version of a mutant Tyranosaurus Rex
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Post by: Ruckdog
Hey all! Just wanted to let you know, Tabletop Gaming News has just posted the renders for the Covenant of Antarctica's fleet box and carrier, among others:
http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2011/07/11/48567/
EDIT: Doh, Ninja'ed
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Post by: Jackmojo
Ooh those CoA ships and walkers are pretty sexy...might need to add a third faction to my collection.
Jack
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Post by: Ghaz
Pretty 'meh' about most of the Covenant models, although I do like the carrier and the battleship. Really need to see the completed and painted models to make a final judgment.
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Post by: Daba
I like the Covenant ships, I think they'll be my second fleet after Brittania.
They don't give off as much of a 'steam' vibe as the Brits do though.
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Post by: Dice Monkey
They have some closeups up now and Neil also said that the boxed sets will get their own little rulebook for the CoA. I am not to fond of the drones or little tanks but I love the carrier, battleship, and giant walker.
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Post by: Pael
TGN is work blocked!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Can't wait to look at these at home....
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Post by: Kroothawk
Problem is that you can't import TGN pics and the Dystopian website is a mess if you are searching for new pics.
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Post by: Ghaz
Painted Covenant of Antarctica forces on the Spartan Games blog.
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Post by: army310
dude i like them allot
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Post by: Ghaz
Spartan Games has announced that the Republique of France Magenta class battleship will be available at Gen Con.
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Post by: infinite_array
Something tells me the Covenant will be like the Space Marines of Dystopian Wars - who DOESN'T want these models?
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Post by: Kroothawk
Again reposted for convenience:
Magenta Goes to Gen Con
Written by Spartan Games
News has reached us of a Republique of France (RoF) Naval Force that is currently crossing the Atlantic, heading to the Gen Con 2011 gaming convention. Intelligence indicates that the force, which is several hudred models strong, is entirely composed of Magenta Class Battleships – both in a flying and surface mode of operation, and paired in packaging. The force is acting as a vanguard force for a much larger French force that will arrive later in the year.
As you can see from the renders the French engineers have crammed plenty of detail into the Magenta, giving fleet captains plenty to paint.
The Magenta Battleship that is heading to Gen Con will be sold in a limited number as part of a show special. The blister will contain two models: Magenta in flight-mode (with flight stand) and Magenta waterlined. A statistic card will be included with the model, but MAR rules for the ship’s use will have to be downloaded from the Dystopian Wars Downloads page, which can be found on the menu above. When the RoF fleet comes out later this year the rules will be included within its booklet.
infinite_array wrote:Something tells me the Covenant will be like the Space Marines of Dystopian Wars - who DOESN'T want these models?
These are nice, but I still prefer the look of the Japanese fleet. But then again, I also find Space marines boring and collect Xenos
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Post by: htj
Damn, beat me to it. I'm really liking this new Covenant stuff, has a real H. G. Wells feel to it. That Orb is frickin' awesome.
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Post by: Uriels_Flame
Looks like the orb off of The Incredibles.
I like the look of the new stuff.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Again reposted for convenience:
Antarcticans: The Second Wave
Written by Spartan Games
The Galen Class Escort comes with a Fore Gun (S) that has a 270 degree arc of fire, but its primary role is that of providing AA defence for the larger Antarctican vessels.
The Prometheus Class Dreadnought is a major fighting force that any enemy fleet commander needs to treat with respect, or quickly meet their maker. At the front you can see its Particle Accelerator weapon (the rear of the model shows the massive housing that is home for this weapon’s power system) and the four Main Turrets (P) can either fire conventional projectiles OR be swapped out for Energy Turrets.
Icarus Class Medium Flyers can be deployed in Squadrons of 2-3 models and has been designed to lay down destructive fire to any arc during combat and plays a vital role in any CoA engagement.
The Callamachus Time Dilation Orb struts around the battlefield, its long legs allowing it to tower above other models and terrain, its advanced technologies allowing it to teleport objects and slow/speed up time. As you can see from the images the top section can be removed, which allows for upgrades in the future. One of these upgrades will be a waterlined model which gives it Amphibious Capability with a Movement of 4” on the sea, for no points difference.
The Plutarch Class Destroyer is equipped with a Fore Gun (S) and Port/Starboard Broadsides (S) and has three MARs: Small Target, Pack Hunters and Dolphin Dipper, the latter of which allows it to speed up with its movement if it travels in a straight line.
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Post by: Dice Monkey
Those are great, It means a 4th fleet for me. I was going to hold out for the Turks but those Star Destroyers are to good looking.
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Post by: Ruckdog
Hee hee, I really wish I could go now! Might have to ask around to see if anyone can snag one of these for me.
Anyway, this deluge of announcements is almost too much to take in. I think the CoA models are very nice; I'll definitely be picking up at least the flee boxes!
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Post by: Ghaz
From Alliance Games:
DWCA01 Covenant of Antarctica Naval Battle Group $54.99
DWCA05 Covenant of Antarctica Drone Fleet Carrier & Tokens (1) $23.49
DWCA21 Covenant of Antarctica Armoured Battle Group $49.99
DWBS12 Empire Of The Blazing Sun Ika Class Mechanical Squid (2) $15.99
DWFS12 Federated States Of America John Henry Class Robot (2) $24.99
DWKB12 Kingdom Of Britania Vanguard Class Submarine (2) $16.99
DWPE12 Prussian Empire Metzger Class Robot (1) $24.99
DWPE13 Prussian Empire Metzger Class Robot Base (2) $16.99
DWPE13 should be two of the waterlined Metzgers, versus DWPE12 which should be the full land-based Metzger.
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Post by: Ghaz
Gallery update featuring the Magenta, Ika, Vanguard, John Henry and Metzger.
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Post by: MrDwhitey
I love the Covenant ships!
Especially the Enemy Crab. And the flying cruiser.
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Post by: Pael
So many tough decisions!! I want to see the Ottoman and Russian Models before I run out and get other fleets but the CoA are almost to powerful to resist....nooo must go to the light.....
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Post by: Helmann
New painted previews of the specials are up! The Metzger looks even cooler now (already pre-ordered mine).
What I don't get is why the Metzger comes in either 1 x land version or 2 x waterline per blister? Why not have both versions in one pack like the KoB sub and squid, or one of each?
Sure it would cost more than the others, but it already does. I ordered one blister of both, but it's a little like the old 'more hotdogs than buns' dilemma to me.
I was just like you, Pael, I so wanted to see Ottomans and Russians, but I ended up diving in with KoB and Prussians as classic enemies. Wanted to collect Blazing Sun so much, but I feel like yelling 'All aboard the Tokyo express!' when I see the models.
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Post by: Pael
I was able to get one at gen con it looks sweet! It is also a bit bigger than my Brittania bb
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
We have got a little Prussian and British fleet each to try the game. We went a bit mad and started grabbing this and that and ended up spending nearly £100.
The rule book looks top quality, also if you buy some of the box sets you get a sheet of counters to cut up so that means no photocopying stuff out the book.
The Prussian zeppelin aircraft carrier is a brick of a thing and looks great. The Prussians belong to the wife, I went with the home nation.
In the next couple of weeks I hope to undercoat them and then we can try out a game or two!
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Post by: Aduro
I hate to say it Howard, but that is about the worst match up in the game right there. Prussians are a little on the strong side overall, Brits a little on the weak, and then the styles of the two armies let Prussians make short work of most Brit fleets.
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Post by: Sattamassagana
I would disagree, Britannian torpedoes mean you can fire much more at a longer range than the Prussians. True the Prussian lay down a much bigger threat at close range with the guns and boarding skills but it's not a given. Britannian Dive bombers with their additional Ack ack can attack Prussian Tiny Flyers with impunity and then go on the ruin a ship's day.
I have found my Prussian airship carrier to not be a huge amount of use though. Got myself a Magenta class which will take its place in the next engagement, see how that does.
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Post by: htj
Says the Prussian player...
But no, the Britannians aren't bad per se, but they do suffer from having a naff Battleship and Cruisers. A lot of their other units are very nice, and as said above, can do some nasty damage at long range with massed torpedo fire.
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Post by: alphaomega
I really do like the Kingdom of Britain models.
That large Airship looks brutal.
I am looking forward to picking up some Dystopian very soon.
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Post by: Happygrunt
Must... not... start... Japanese.... NAVY..... GAAAHHHH!!!
Beautiful models. Wish I could an Empire of the Blazing Sun army.
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Post by: Ruckdog
Yeah, the really sweet previews are coming fast and furious from spartan! I really love the flying battleship themes the French, British, and CoA have.
Now where are the previews of my American sky fortress?
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Post by: Sarge
The Prussian model looks uninspired to me. The rest look very cool.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
Dang they really are going from strength to strength.
If I was back in the US I'd be on this in a heartbeat.
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Post by: porkuslime
the FSA one reallly reminds me of the foot powered paddle wheel boats I used on lakes as a kid..
with guns.
(and MAN does that Prussian one look like it was made by Dwarves.. )
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Post by: vitki
That's just fun to say
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Post by: tanker
The Warstore has a bunch of the new DW and FA models up for pre-order including the buildings.
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Post by: Duncan_Idaho
BIG LIKE!
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Post by: Jayce_The_Ace
That Brittania flying carrier is awesome!!
I'm glad there is an alternative to the seabourne carrier because that thing is one seriously fugly pile of gak.
I'm in the process of trying to knock up a little Brittania fleet as a fun modelling project - judging by these, it's not going to be as small as I thought.
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Post by: PhantomViper
When are these guys going to release the rest of the French fleet!
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Post by: Leigen_Zero
@PhantomViper: I forget the source (might have been something on d6g, may have been on spartan's forums, I can't remember  ) but I think they said that they want to get the 'rulebook units' out first, i.e. they want to get all of the models that are in the rulebook into stores (which should be done and dusted fairly soon) before they start doing new forces, so you might be waiting a while I'm afraid...
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Post by: Sarge
It all looks good except for the huge Prussian blimp. I have the same issue with the smaller one too. They just don't look as steampunk as I'd like. I got over it once I played it though.
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Post by: Kroothawk
What is more steampunk than a Zeppelin?
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Post by: StringBassKnight
Sweeeeeetness.
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Post by: Dice Monkey
Covenant carrier is up, kinda looks like the Millennium Falcon or a droid control ship IMO.
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Post by: Platuan4th
Looks like someone put a huge ball turret on the Droid gunship:
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Post by: Guildsman
Sweet lord that is cool. Was waffling between picking CoA and KoB, but that carrier decides it. Antarctica it is.
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Post by: Orlanth
Why not buy both and a third faction on top. Will cost you less to buy three full factions of stuff than one 40K army.
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Post by: Guildsman
Orlanth wrote:Why not buy both and a third faction on top. Will cost you less to buy three full factions of stuff than one 40K army.
Cuz I'm a poor college student. Believe me, I would love to. All in good time though.
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Post by: sennacherib
Lookin great. I already have some Uncharted seas and though i am not lookin to start another spartan game, these look awesome.
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Post by: Eumerin
PhantomViper wrote:When are these guys going to release the rest of the French fleet!
The first wave nations (FSA, KoB, Prussia, EotBS, CoA) are supposed to be finished by February. They'll move on to the second wave nations after that.
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Post by: Dice Monkey
Well if anyone wanted a giant Alamo Chopper Bulldozer model here is your chance. Spartan has been hitting their stride with their OTT big models lately.
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Post by: Aduro
I don't think I like the COA mobile airfield. It doesn't look at all balanced.
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Post by: Kroothawk
This is one thing bugging me with Dystopian Wars: All armies get exactly the same units, only with a slight variation of rules. Not much diversity if you ask me, only a choice in looks.
BTW Germany never had an aircraft carrier in history (only a half built and never finished one before WW2).
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Post by: Aduro
The only unique units are the three robots and the sub so far.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Kroothawk wrote:This is one thing bugging me with Dystopian Wars: All armies get exactly the same units, only with a slight variation of rules. Not much diversity if you ask me, only a choice in looks.
BTW Germany never had an aircraft carrier in history (only a half built and never finished one before WW2).
That's basically how real armies work.
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Post by: Duncan_Idaho
Prussian Empire - Seydlitz Class Mobile Airfield
Sometimes, when an idea sticks in your head, you just can’t get rid of it. That’s what happened when we had the planning meeting for the Mobile Airfields. One excited comment, and I found myself designing the Seydlitz Class Mobile Airfield as you see before you. I mean, who would have thought that a comment like… “hey, why don’t we make it look like a giant Iron Cross rolling across the battlefield” would get the boss so excited.
As you can see, the idea stuck and I had to go away and make a giant Iron Cross that rolls over the battlefield, crushing all before it and launching waves of Kondor fighters to strike at enemy targets. The Empire of the Blazing Sun Mobile Carrier I designed is still my most complex model, but the Seydlitz, which I named after the Prussian Cavalry Commander Friedrich Wilhelm Freiherr von Seydlitz, took a lot of thinking about! My sketchpad was well used that week.
The crossover landing strips slot together simply, creating the symbolic Prussian cross, and I went for a beefed up hull with nice angular edges. Plenty of Tesla weaponry and this behemoth is ready for action in the New Year. All in all I am really pleased with the model, and I managed to keep the boss happy.
 
 
Actually Germany built three carriers during WWII . The two smaller ones only started conversion from standard ships to carrier and never got anywhere. The one built form the beginning as carrier, Graf Zeppelin, was actually several times nearly finished, but due to animosities between Navy and Airforce (Göring!), was built and torn down several times. At least two times it could have been considered fully operational with only details missing.
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Post by: Eumerin
So... is it just me, or is there a decided lack of aircraft on the CoA Mobile Airfield model?
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Post by: Aduro
CoA don't have manned aircraft with runways, they launch unmanned drones. There is a row of four launch ramps on either side of the bug butt thing there on the back, and if I'm not mistaken, looks like you might be able to see folded drones just poking out of the bottom.
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Post by: Dice Monkey
Kroothawk wrote: This is one thing bugging me with Dystopian Wars: All armies get exactly the same units, only with a slight variation of rules. Not much diversity if you ask me, only a choice in looks.
While the classes are the same they play quite differently. For example the FSA is specialized for long range and endurance on their larger ships, there smaller ships tend to be on the bad side. The KoB specialized in middle range and with their aircraft laying mines to close off portions of the board. It is sort of like saying all horde armies play exactly alike in Warhammer or 40K when they don't.
Eumerin wrote:So... is it just me, or is there a decided lack of aircraft on the CoA Mobile Airfield model?
The CoA do not have pilots but Robotic drones that shoot out from the thorax of the spider in this case. They shoot out like missiles than unfurl and fly.
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Post by: Orlanth
I am not impressed with the French, boring looking fleet.
This makes me happy as I don't want to be tempted to buy anything new.
However the preview miniatures for the mobile fortresses are released and the models are out this week.
http://www.spartangames.co.uk/the-ground-shakes
I love this one.
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Post by: RiTides
Wow, my favorite is definitely that last one! I don't know if you did them all or just that one, Duncan_Idaho, but it's cool!!
Some of the others I'm not as sure about, though
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Post by: sarcastro01
sigh....my rule book is a whopping 6 days old and there's a replacement.
The offer of the mini update book is okay I guess but I'd much rather have had the new one instead.
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Post by: Scottywan82
Well they did post the upcoming release a few weeks ago... Can't say you (or at least - your LGS) weren't warned.
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Post by: mrfantastical
Any idea when the Ottoman Empire will be released?
trying do decided if it's worth the wait or if I should just pick up an army now.
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Post by: Ruckdog
Looks like there is a new wave of small flyers and buildings in the works! So far the only place I have seen these is on The War Store's preorders page:
http://www.thewarstore.com/spartanpreorders.html
As usual, these models look awesome! TWS is quoting a release date of April, so they ate just around the corner. The nice thing is, the small flyers will allow for all-air list creation.
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Post by: liquidjoshi
Any news on the Russian Coalition? At all?
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Post by: Rugrud
On the spartan forum:
"So, as many of you want to see the Russian Coalition, we can show previews this coming week"
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Post by: Murenius
Can't wait for the new stuff
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Post by: Anvildude
Ooh... That's what I've been waiting for.
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Post by: Eldar Craft
If I model james and the giant peach am I allowed to field it against those first to ships.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Time to update this Dystopian Wars thread:
Three new factions are scheduled for may: Italy (1st may), Australia and China (29th may).
Also, all other faction will get additional starter sets, one battle group and one support group. First factions to receive these new box sets will be Britain and France, the others will follow in the newxt months.
There also has been several releases for the land battles including a new book called "Armoured Clash". But I leave it to someone else to present these releases.
League of Italian States:
http://www.spartangames.co.uk/designing-the-italians-2
The Chinese Federation:
Australia:
It is accompanied by a free download of the Dystopian Wars Pacific Cyclone Campaign Book:
http://www.spartangames.co.uk/pacific-cyclone-1-of-3
http://www.spartangames.co.uk/pacific-cyclone-2-of-3
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