Wanted to publicly announce something to the DakkaDakka community.
To understand how we work and what we are is really simple.
We are a website that will be launching the best wargaming discounts you cannot find anywhere else. By having people join our email list, we as a collective 'group' engage in conversations with various wargaming companies showing a great interest of 'potential' buyers if their prices met XX% discount. The more people that join, the more leverage we have in discussion with companies who want your dollars.
Galaxy Gobbo is a liaison between the wargaming consumer and the wargaming producers. For once, wargamers now have a voice and can be heard! So join our email list today and be heard.
The type of deals we offer are:
GW (WH40k, WHFB, LOTR)
Privateer Press (Warmachine/Hordes)
Armorcast
Avatars of War
Army Painter
Fantasy Flight Games
Vallejo
Microart Studios
and much much more (30+ more companies to be exact) just stay on board ;D
*PLEASE NOTE: This web site is a privately-created work of design, business and service not affiliated, endorsed or sponsored with any of these companies and game system listed above. There are no challenges against their trademarks, copyrights, or intellectual property. Galaxy Gobbo is a group buying site that offers and provides these products through strong-tied partnerships with various retail businesses in the wargaming industry, community and members.
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FAQs (Spoiler mode activated for information condensation.)
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Q: Does this work for people outside the USA? A: YES. An often asked question. This is an world-wide offer. We will ship worldwide via USPS/Fedex/UPS.
Q: What are your guy's prices? Our prices will vary dependent on offer to offer, and also dependent on who we partner with. The deals we seek out though will be nothing found on the internet.
Q: Do I only get discounts on that single item? What if I want more? A: You will get the discount offered on that single item. If you want to add-on items to that order they will be @ 25% off MSRP (unless otherwise stated/dependent on product)
Q: What will you do with my email/location? A: Your privacy is very important to us. Location allows us to inform you of LOCAL deals and events relevant within your area. We can connect you with news happening within your local area. No Spam. We will NOT sell your information. Your information is an asset to us and is protected. Our email list is here to serve you with informational newsletters on the latest offers from the wargaming industry as well as informing you on our contests and news.
Q: How are you guys doing this? A: We build partnerships with various companies, communities, and members within the wargaming industry. We tell them to provide hookups to our subscribers. The more people that join -- the more deals, partnerships and contests we can run for the whole wargaming community.
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Contests & Giveaways: (Spoiler mode activated for information condensation.)
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A. DAKKA DAKKA *EXCLUSIVE* Subscriber Appreciation Giveaway:
The first DAKKA DAKKA Exclusive giveaway offer we are going to hand out is INSTANT deals for 5 Dakka Dakka members.
Pretty much a coupon 50% off MSRP (USD) to GW/PP on a single item of their choosing.
Qualifications/How to Participate: -Join our email list
-Post on this thread that you've joined.
ENDS: March 1st, we will draw out 5 people randomly selected in these threads. If you are on our subscribers list & posted on this thread (so we know you are dakkite) then you will be good to go. We will drop a PM to the winners on Dakka to verify. If you post but not on the list... we move onto the next and proceed~
**These 5 winners will be a 'test' run but we are sure we will have no issues.
B. General Galaxy Subscriber Appreciation Giveaway:
We will be running occasional contests generally to all our subscribers. We will be posting this news on our website or other connection venues.
-Join our Email list
-Check our site from time to time
HOW DOES IT WORK? (Spoiler mode activated for information condensation.)
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Here’s the rundown on how all of this works. There are four different type of offers that will be present from time to time. Each with their own description and procedure on how they are to be executed. The overall concept however is to simply serve deals straight to you via our website. Be sure to also check out our alternative access points so you can be informed at all times of our present and upcoming deals.
Green ‘ORIGINAL’ Gobbo Deals – Limited Time Offers
These are your traditional deals that have no set quantity available to the general public — except a threshold amount that will ‘unlock’ the deal for the collective buyout.
Example: Baneblades @ 35% off MSRP – Minimum 10 Buyers (in the world) – 24hour time limit
Red ‘FAST’ Gobbo Deals – Limited Quantity Offers
These are your untraditional deals that have a limited quantity available and are served as a ‘first-come-first-serve’ basis. These deals are *HOT* and they don’t last long! These deals are posted at sporadically RANDOM times during ANY time of the day (We can’t help it!) Not only do they pop-out at random times they may at times appear in different locations as well!
Possible Locations:
Blog Posts (On this website)
E-mail (Join our mailing list on the top right corner)
Social Media (Join on the top right corner)
Community Posts *Details Coming Soon*
Make sure you get subscribed at any of these possible venues as the deals in the Galaxy can open at any moment ;D
Blue ‘LUCKY’ Gobbo Deals – Contest, Events, Raffles & Giveaways
These posts come in a form of a contest, event, raffle, or giveaway usually with no barrier of entry.
These yellow tagged deals come from our sponsors and are usually exclusive to the Gobbos and their followers. These deals each vary from type, and details but be rest assured that we shall not bring anything less then spectactular!
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STAY TUNED. OUR FIRST DEAL(S) WILL BE LAUNCHED NEXT WEEK.
That’s all for now. Thanks for stopping by and checking out GalaxyGobbo.
Its time to explore the Galaxy some more!
Regards,
GalaxyGobbo team Contact Us: GalaxyGobbo@gmail.com
The first DAKKA DAKKA Exclusive giveaway offer we are going to hand out is INSTANT deals for 5 Dakka Dakka members.
Pretty much a coupon 50% off MSRP (USD) to GW/PP or any other wargaming product on a single item of their choosing.
Qualifications:
-Join our email list
-Post on this thread that you've joined.
March 1st, we will draw out 5 people randomly selected in these threads. If you are on our subscribers list & posted on this thread (so we know you are dakkite) then you will be good to go. If you post but not on the list... we move onto the next and proceed~
**These 5 winners will be a 'test' run but we are sure we will have no issues. And this will be allowed for international.
Mattlov wrote:I signed up. I know Groupon is pretty cool, and if I can get a similar deal for gaming stuff like that, I'm all for it.
Thanks. We are going to do something along those lines but with better twists. ;D
I signed up, my fiancee is into this stuff always getting discounts on buffet dinners and shampoos and whatnot. Hopefully I can now do the same with orks.
Razor Jacksuit wrote:Just subscribed, but I have a question: How are the Galaxy Gobbo guys going to know that a given poster in this thread is also a subscriber?
I'd assume by using your Dakka login as the Name, thats what I did, the point of contact is your email, not the name.
Signed up, its says in the FAQ worldwide, so worth a look at least.
Razor Jacksuit wrote:Just subscribed, but I have a question: How are the Galaxy Gobbo guys going to know that a given poster in this thread is also a subscriber?
I'd assume by using your Dakka login as the Name, thats what I did, the point of contact is your email, not the name.
Signed up, its says in the FAQ worldwide, so worth a look at least.
First off... SUCCESS! Made a lurker into a first post member ;D Welcome to the site mate.
We will pick the 5 winners randomly via. this thread. The name you can input is your real name or dakka name, either is fine.
When we pick the winner on Dakka, we will drop them a pm asking for their email address. Then we cross check our database to see if the winners are on our list. Thats how we will verify. If someone simply posts here that they joined but didn't.... well then we move onto the next valid winner.
International winners are A'OK.
Just want to note: We cannot get direct order items. But I'm PRETTY sure no winner wants a simple direct only model. haha ;D
Also Privacy Policy is listed on the site.
Going to edit it a bit more but the basics are:
-We will never sell your list. If an event does occur where third-parties may be interested in contacting, they will give the message to us to screen, then we handle the emailing. We NEVER allow third parties to gain any informational access.
-Our email list is for us to serve you the deals, contests, and news strictly.
-Location is to help us better serve you by your location in the future possibility of connecting with LGS's, events and etc.
MadCowCrazy wrote:Signed up as well, no more sign up so I might actually win
Good timing. Actually the more that joins the more we can offer these deals.
The way this works is through quantity userbase. The lower it is the less it can work out.
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We have reached our first milestone!
For every 100 people that join.. I think the Gobbos will be generous.. and we will be going to be giving away something.... these giveaways will vary in prizes.
For this first 100 subscriber milestone we will be giving away one 50% off any single GW/Privateer Press item though do not feel limited to those items. We will be listing our different game systems we can obtain items from.
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WE WILL ACTUALLY PICK ONE OUT OF THE FIVE DAKKA DAKKA MEMBER IN AN HOUR.
Need to test the logistics out - and this winner wil lbe our first guinea-squig pig.
The winner will be POSTED on our site tonight. (It is 11am our time here. So maybe in 12 hours)
The winner will have 48 hours to claim this and if not.. well then the deal moves to the next!
Also just want to let everyone know. As much as you are excited, please refrain from joining our email list more than once. We can check for multiples... and have contacted a few in regards to that. We want to maintain the integrity of our list for our future potential partnerships.
Actually, we are about 40~ people short of 200! (Probably even less while we are writing this message...) Spread the word around to your friends and we'll drop another something @ 200, 300, etc etc. The more that joins the more we can get deals. =)
BTW: If you are getting this message via email, and it looks 'funny' we apologize this is our first test for our site/email newsletter integration.
I see how this works and I get it. The thing that makes me laugh is there are frequent threads about stores closing and the usual lamentations etc about the state of the wargaming industry and availability of places to play. For those that don't have a FLGS to play at, totally get it - for those of you that do and enjoy it and the atmosphere etc why are you doing this?
I view the extra I pay in a B&M store as a sort of "cover charge" or "membership fee" that gives me a place to sit down, chat, avoid the stresses of life and hide from the wife occasionally. By the way - if you are going to type that you buy paint, coke and the odd blister so you "support" your FLGS just delete your post as that is a real assassine comment/ argument to make.
The basic gist is, buy from your FLGS (if you have one) or it isn't going to be there. It really doesn't get any simpler than that. Buy from FLGS it stays in business - don't buy and it goes "poof". That saving may cost you in the longer term in the shape of less people to play as the community gathering spots become fewer and fewer in number. The number of places in Seattle etc are getting very thin on the ground and it isn;t looking good for the future.
If you don't have a FLGS I totally understand getting the cheapest price - I would totally do the same.
90%+ of my spend is in a store - the other 10% is usually stuff that I cannot get in a store.
I suppose part of my reason for not liking this particular thread is my favorite model shop (for military kits) American Eagle is shutting down. They just cannot compete against a warehouse with a website that relies on volume through much lower margins and has an international customer base. People would come in, look at the models, have them opened and then go buy on line but then come back in for paint etc. Now, I have to find another model store where I can browse and ask advice but I can see at some point it is all going to be via internet.
fullheadofhair wrote:I see how this works and I get it. The thing that makes me laugh is there are frequent threads about stores closing and the usual lamentations etc about the state of the wargaming industry and availability of places to play. For those that don't have a FLGS to play at, totally get it - for those of you that do and enjoy it and the atmosphere etc why are you doing this?
I view the extra I pay in a B&M store as a sort of "cover charge" or "membership fee" that gives me a place to sit down, chat, avoid the stresses of life and hide from the wife occasionally. By the way - if you are going to type that you buy paint, coke and the odd blister so you "support" your FLGS just delete your post as that is a real assassine comment/ argument to make.
The basic gist is, buy from your FLGS (if you have one) or it isn't going to be there. It really doesn't get any simpler than that. Buy from FLGS it stays in business - don't buy and it goes "poof". That saving may cost you in the longer term in the shape of less people to play as the community gathering spots become fewer and fewer in number. The number of places in Seattle etc are getting very thin on the ground and it isn;t looking good for the future.
If you don't have a FLGS I totally understand getting the cheapest price - I would totally do the same.
90%+ of my spend is in a store - the other 10% is usually stuff that I cannot get in a store.
I suppose part of my reason for not liking this particular thread is my favorite model shop (for military kits) American Eagle is shutting down. They just cannot compete against a warehouse with a website that relies on volume through much lower margins and has an international customer base. People would come in, look at the models, have them opened and then go buy on line but then come back in for paint etc. Now, I have to find another model store where I can browse and ask advice but I can see at some point it is all going to be via internet.
I don't see it that way.
Of course, we're only getting the peaches and cream version, here, so caviot empire, and all that.
As for all of the store closings, thats a horse of a different color. They are competing with the internet, and maybe, to be blunt, they should start taking that into acount, getting together themselves, and start collectivly getting thier muscle on some of the outlandish pricing practices that are devolving the industry. Sure, you can SAY that you pay that 20-35% extra at your LGS as some sort of a sophised "Fee", but why should you? As in the case of some of my local stores, they give good rate, but if you can get better, especially with the rate that we as costumers are being treated by the likes of GW, and other upstart companies, then tough. We need to pay less, or you can outright forget about gaming in any serious discussion.
The way things are going, you already see the degredation of the hobby with practices like- increasing price on decreasing product.
Devalued and degraded units, then with the way that GW and others arbitrarily just negate their products, I say that the shoes on the other foot, and if companies that are already making 300% profit can't take a hint, then !@#$ them. While I can agree that the so called middle man is getting the shaft, I can submit that they are doing it to themselves by being part of the problem instead of part of the solution.
And to finally top it off, Game stores go under for all sorts of reasons. The truly great ones stay above ground because they do what the rest of us do, they adapt and survive. If you don't like the internet, and seriously, you can scurge it all you want to, that's now a dead issue. You should have cried about it the first time that MMRPG's started coming on scene and did something to counter the craze. Now the computer is here, and you need to embrace the tech, even though mini games want to act like the internet doesn't exist.
More online sources rules gamebooks, scenarios, etc. More interaction with the fans, more use of tech to increase recognition and interaction between fans.... Just some of the ways, but its just a drop in the bucket, the point is that Game stores don't have to sit back and smoke and joke while things like this guys deal blow thier legs off.
If I am going to continue to play 40K, I'm either going to hunt down and GET the deals, or My collection of over 20+ years of gaming hits the bricks and I put my money back in the bank. It's that simple. GW, is an obvious target, because they are the worst offender. PP, Malfaux,etc.etc.etc. hell, ALL OF THEM. Collectivily, the industry as a whole is under the gun. They can either see that people do not have the disposable income they once had, or they can ostrich it and wonder why they are losing thier 123 when people dump them for cheaper products and interesting games.
Bottom line, if this is a good deal, then great. If not, then its a dog, and these guys will suffer the wrath of the cthuhlu for it. I'll give them a chance, but in the future, if I start getting the bollux because of something they did, then they get what they get.
Caviot Empore.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Tell me more about the 50% off baneblade.
A groupon for wargames, eh? Someone should have had this done years ago!
Somebody did, but they dropped the ball (along with their business).
We are not looking to provide a short term solution, that makes no sense.
Galaxy Gobbo's business plans has been set and preplanned long ago, and finally executed.
We looking to do this for the long term and maintain a strong relationship between the wargaming community and vendors.
BTW We are almost hitting #200. Two more prizes it seems will be unloaded today.
(only one so far for the dakka exclusive give away the two new winners are for the GENERAL Subscribers appreciation giveaway)
Instead of waiting for next week - we are preparing ourselves to launch our first deal this week.
This week's deal will contain at least 3-5 different game systems, for added variety. We know that not everyone wants 40k40k40k.
We will start taking a poll soon to ask and see what people want ;D via our site.
Here's hoping it ends up being useful to enough folks to be a going concern. I for example only regularly play 40k any more so will likely only be looking for those deals appropriate to my 40k armies, and I'm sure I'm not the only similarly limited purchaser.
A groupon for wargames, eh? Someone should have had this done years ago!
Somebody did, but they dropped the ball (along with their business).
We are not looking to provide a short term solution, that makes no sense.
Galaxy Gobbo's business plans has been set and preplanned long ago, and finally executed.
We looking to do this for the long term and maintain a strong relationship between the wargaming community and vendors.
BTW We are almost hitting #200. Two more prizes it seems will be unloaded today.
(only one so far for the dakka exclusive give away the two new winners are for the GENERAL Subscribers appreciation giveaway)
Instead of waiting for next week - we are preparing ourselves to launch our first deal this week.
This week's deal will contain at least 3-5 different game systems, for added variety. We know that not everyone wants 40k40k40k.
We will start taking a poll soon to ask and see what people want ;D via our site.
Question : What business did the groupon for wargames before?
A groupon for wargames, eh? Someone should have had this done years ago!
Somebody did, but they dropped the ball (along with their business).
We are not looking to provide a short term solution, that makes no sense.
Galaxy Gobbo's business plans has been set and preplanned long ago, and finally executed.
We looking to do this for the long term and maintain a strong relationship between the wargaming community and vendors.
BTW We are almost hitting #200. Two more prizes it seems will be unloaded today.
(only one so far for the dakka exclusive give away the two new winners are for the GENERAL Subscribers appreciation giveaway)
Instead of waiting for next week - we are preparing ourselves to launch our first deal this week.
This week's deal will contain at least 3-5 different game systems, for added variety. We know that not everyone wants 40k40k40k.
We will start taking a poll soon to ask and see what people want ;D via our site.
Question : What business did the groupon for wargames before?
Oh it was Plastric Krack / Bit Kingdom as aforementioned. they weren't EXACTLY like groupon (neither will we - we are taking it beyond simple groupon) but they were to our understanding the only real other people that tried to offer in house deals - and what not, but didn't work out (it was due to overall thing not just plastic krack but the BK business failing as well).
There there was possibly one other minor one that didn't go full steam. Thats all nothing entirely big though - so guess you could say that there wasn't specifically one.
These are the only close equivalents.
Looks like Lord Solaar is the first confirmed Dakka winner. Lets see... what he wants to get?!..
Lord Solaar - The first Dakka winner has chosen to pickup a valkyrie
Our 2nd Dakka Winner is ...... LegendJRG.
Please contact me via pm.
3 More winners will be drawn by March 1st.
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General Giveaway (Just for being a subscriber - may or may not be a Dakka member)
Every 100 person that joins we hand out random wargaming goods ;D
#100 milestone = Karl O. who registered via gmail
#200 will be drawn tonight.
#300 -- Could be you. We are nearing 300 soon.
The winners will be notified via email tonight - if you happen to have the same name, last initial, and email address... and haven't recieved an email by sunday...
There is someone else out there with that same combination... and we apologize for the coincidence. We know the last name, just reduced to last initial for privacy.
We have also teamed up with the LOST HEMISPHERE. For you Privateer fans, hopefully you know of these guys!
For those of you that don't - they are an awesome WM/H website. http://losthemisphere.com/ We will be packing some privateer deals ;D.
Saturday-Night -- Sunday.
Our first grand opening deals will happen.
We are thinking on:
40k Deal
Fantasy Deal
LOTR Deal
WM/H Deal
Greenstuff Deal
Those who are on the subscribers list will get private access to these deals first.
Before they are publicly displayed.
We are also gearing up for GREY KNIGHTS season . So stick around.
We also got more ideas in store - and will be changing the format of the deals/website soon. All these changes will only bring more different variety of goods.
So far all these deals will be provided by a local who runs a gig (however they will remain anonymity - in prevention of mass hordes of people asking them locally for a deal -- as these are a Galaxy Gobbo Exclusive )
We will be taking the next steps and further establishing new relationships and partnerships in the wargaming industry so stay tuned.
Just wanted to give quick updates to some people I know we were suppose to have some action going on this weekend- we just did a full site-wide redesign and revamp as we found incompatibilities with our original design and firefox browsers.
We would like to thank the Dakka community and so be sure for a drawing today.
Alpharius wrote:Hopefully the "deals" start showing up... soon?
Just came here to say the same.
The site redesign is OK, but there's still no relevant info on what's going on. You've been heavily promoting this for days now, it's a good idea to let us know what's up and when we can expect the deals to start coming.
Alpharius wrote:Hopefully the "deals" start showing up... soon?
Deals will be launching (we are in writeup of the deals information).
This is the first test wave that we will be serving in-house with one personal gaming store owned by a friend who will help us get this off the first initial launch ground.
So far our Dakka Winners have chosen:
Valkyrie
Baneblade
They'll be getting that very shortly.
All email subscribers will have 24~hour advanced private screening of our deals including Red deals (which will only last at most an hour or so). The information will be posted via email, then posted publicly later.
While promoted heavy - it has only been promoted heavily mostly on Dakka our other traffic sources have stalled pending redesign and we are getting those up to speed. The Estimate was to hit around 1k subscriber base to meet a certain 'proof' of demand for two companies.
The site is powered by the numbers. We'll get there though.
Thanks for your patience and support.
is this one of those ideal that you guys go to stores or companies that produce the games and say hey if we can sell x amount of product will you sell it for x% off
For example if I as Micropanzer Wargame Studio said I would offer a Light assault warbot 3 pack for 45 dollars verse the 65 special promotion price Gobbo would let there subscribers know and once 100 or more orders committed then it would be a done deal but if not then no go.
micropanzer wrote:is this one of those ideal that you guys go to stores or companies that produce the games and say hey if we can sell x amount of product will you sell it for x% off
For example if I as Micropanzer Wargame Studio said I would offer a Light assault warbot 3 pack for 45 dollars verse the 65 special promotion price Gobbo would let there subscribers know and once 100 or more orders committed then it would be a done deal but if not then no go.
Or is this something totally different?
Exactly on point - at least for one of our promotion types. There will be a deal offered and X people must commit to 'unlock' it.
What this does for the business end is name/product promotion. Though we'll try to make projected quotas, but realistic. 100 would be too much for our current subscriber base but we'll match that in correct proportions. Thats where numbers going to count the most for this.
I think we didn't make it as clear as it should be - and we will be rewriting the details to make it more clear since this is something new to the wargaming community we are introducing.
Going to rewrite the 'how it works' page as we speak but you are on point.
Working on tonight:
-How it works explained
-Example Deal
-Our first grand opening deal (24 hours ahead notice for private subscribers).
Have you guys tried chapter house or paulson games? And more importantly are you going to try and work a deal out with Battlefoam? Because that would be amazing.
Not a fan of having to hunt through a variety of websites for these deals. Keep it in one place. I know you want to increase your web presence with more hits, but consumers want stability and ease of use.
Could you make how to sign up a bit more obvious? For some reason, I cannot figure out how to do it from the original post or the website . Yes, I have had an extremely long workday preceding this, so feel free to poke fun
Edit: AND right after posting, I figured it out. What I had assumed was a banner add on the side of the site is in fact the signup space...
sum1thtdiesalot wrote:Have you guys tried chapter house or paulson games? And more importantly are you going to try and work a deal out with Battlefoam? Because that would be amazing.
I second that! If you guys offered deals on Battlefoam, I would be a zealous devotee at the shrine of the Galaxy Gobbo!
First round of deals emailed now exclusively for 24 hours for all the current email subscribers.
If you haven't received an email yet -- please wait the email servers are firing it off.
Please note guys that this is the first wave. We will be hitting an email blast once or twice per week of rotating and incoming deals.
Also we've added a poll on the right side of our site so please fill that out when you have the chance.
Ordered 2 Storm Ravens about 1 minute after getting the EMail.
Love it!
[Edit] Just as a heads up GG, when hitting TAB to move from one field to the next, it pulls the cursor up to the Sign Up area and not down to the next field while filling out the order form. I hope it went through!
TalonZahn wrote:Ordered 2 Storm Ravens about 1 minute after getting the EMail.
Love it!
[Edit] Just as a heads up GG, when hitting TAB to move from one field to the next, it pulls the cursor up to the Sign Up area and not down to the next field while filling out the order form. I hope it went through!
We've noticed the tab issue. Going to figure out what in the world is causing that >.>;.
On the other note.. thanks! Will be firing off an email to you and the other people that responded within an hour or under with more details.
Also if you would like to stack your deals for up to a month you may. (If you would like to wait for more deals and grab those in one shot = save on shipping)
By March 1st we will announce all Dakka winners. If you bought something from us and happened to win we can either refund you the difference or you can pick another item.
All current Dakka winners will have their items ordered by our partner by this sunday.
It would be nice of you to set up some sort of cart system for your reservations so we could see what we've ordered on subsequent visits. That would also help us know if our request has been received or not. You could then clear the cart after the deal closes or change the item status from "reserved" to "paid" or "shipped" so we can follow what's happening.
TalonZahn wrote:Ordered 2 Storm Ravens about 1 minute after getting the EMail.
Love it!
[Edit] Just as a heads up GG, when hitting TAB to move from one field to the next, it pulls the cursor up to the Sign Up area and not down to the next field while filling out the order form. I hope it went through!
We've noticed the tab issue. Going to figure out what in the world is causing that >.>;.
On the other note.. thanks! Will be firing off an email to you and the other people that responded within an hour or under with more details.
Also if you would like to stack your deals for up to a month you may. (If you would like to wait for more deals and grab those in one shot = save on shipping)
By March 1st we will announce all Dakka winners. If you bought something from us and happened to win we can either refund you the difference or you can pick another item.
All current Dakka winners will have their items ordered by our partner by this sunday.
Haha I pretty much did the same too good a deal to pass up for my GK Stormraven, can't wait to see whats available in the future. I noticed the tab issue as well I knew it would do it after the third time it happened but habit made me tab a 4th time to the top of the page anyway.
Edit - I second the Battlefoam suggestion if you are able to get a deal with them that would be ace. Also reading back through the thread just realized I won one of the draws, lol.
Breotan wrote:It would be nice of you to set up some sort of cart system for your reservations so we could see what we've ordered on subsequent visits. That would also help us know if our request has been received or not. You could then clear the cart after the deal closes or change the item status from "reserved" to "paid" or "shipped" so we can follow what's happening.
We are currently Installing a temporary support ticket system for this case.
A cart system is being worked on ASAP. We are toying between the options of paypal checkout, google checkout, or a full blown e-commerce system that will allow for true status updates (which is most likely the route we will be taking).
Galaxy Gobbo Company Objectives / Revisions: -Ticket Support System Being developed this weekend.
-eCommerce Cart being developed this weekend to facilitate easier order tracking and customer service.
-Allowance for 'deals' stacking == people who wish to 'wait' a week or two, three may do so and have combined shipping of one package.
-'RED DEALS' information will be revised after feedback. RED DEALS will no longer popup in random locations. Random times yes, but location no. They will usually be listed on the website - unannounced. Thats the only thing. Its first come first serve on whoever sees and selects it. Red Deals will be the 'constantly' outputted
Originally - deals weren't suppose to be heavily in-house but it seems that we might evolve that way if some partners don't step up to the plate ;D.
Or to put in better terms -- it was an idea to have the sponsor/partner actually collect the money, process and handle these deals they set forth.
But we have made measurements to deal with this case (us shipping and doing these offers directly and in house).
We have shipping materials, boxes and everything ready to go.
But we are an adapting team and company, feedback like this will definitely help us grow and develop our system/process.
It is greatly appreciated. By Saturday - all those who filled out the current deal forms will be notified and invoiced. We are simply waiting it out until the SRaven deal times out then we will be making the orders, processing them and firing off all the shipping confirmations.
Deals look pretty good. Unfortunately, there's nothing I need right now in this round of deals, but I hope everyone else gets something nice!
Originally - deals weren't suppose to be heavily in-house but it seems that we might evolve that way if some partners don't step up to the plate ;D.
Or to put in better terms -- it was an idea to have the sponsor/partner actually collect the money, process and handle these deals they set forth.
Ehh, probably not a good idea. IANAL, but IIRC if the "sponsor" doesn't honor the deal, the consumer can come after you for a refund. That's why Groupon collects money from its members directly.
Saruus wrote:I'm not sure if this has been addressed or not but other online websites always say something like
"Games Workshop does not allow re-sellers to show pictures or add GW items to an online shopping cart, but you can still place an order with us!"
and I've seen people say that they aren't allowed to offer more than 25% off. Make of it what you want but I thought I'd leave this here.
That's only retailers supplied directly from GW. Those who don't order direct from GW are free to post pics/add items to cart/give discounts.
Stormraven deal extended to Saturday night. 15 have been sold. The next 5 will be guaranteed a copy until restock by our partner store which should ideally be only a few days after.
Ehh, probably not a good idea. IANAL, but IIRC if the "sponsor" doesn't honor the deal, the consumer can come after you for a refund. That's why Groupon collects money from its members directly.
You are exactly right. We are moving from that our old model to now handling and processing the orders and money via our cart system and customer support system as it makes the most sense for protection and business practicality.
Where is the 50% off baneblade?
You must really want a baneblade.... it was a test example... stay tuned though seems like you really want one ;D
I'm not sure if this has been addressed or not but other online websites always say something like
"Games Workshop does not allow re-sellers to show pictures or add GW items to an online shopping cart, but you can still place an order with us!"
and I've seen people say that they aren't allowed to offer more than 25% off. Make of it what you want but I thought I'd leave this here.
We will never show GW pictures. In terms of other stuff - could state a debate, but no need to worry about it. We got it covered and we'll handle all the issues if it does arise.
Breotan wrote:@TalonZahn - look up a couple of posts. He said everyone will be notified on Saturday.
Ahh, but my response is to his post at the top of the page that says within an hour.
On the other note.. thanks! Will be firing off an email to you and the other people that responded within an hour or under with more details.
Just trying to aid the setup of this fine service.
We will be processing it tonight, tommorow and sunnday (all weekend) actually sorry for conflict of messages. No problem for the help though!
Cart system and customer accounts is being worked on at this moment right now.
We hope to have a demo run this weekend -- maybe some of you guys can do some account testing. I'll drop a message to you guys (Breo and Talon).
It should have order status, history and easy payment gateway.
All I can say is get ready for a picture of 30 storm raven boxes...
ancientsociety wrote:Those who don't order direct from GW are free to post pics/add items to cart/give discounts.
Good to know! I always wondered why hobby sites felt like dark alleyways in 1970's New York while Amazon lived in 2011 with the rest of us, showing pics and having a cart.
GW, we love you. We love your models, we love your games, and yes, we love to bitch. But seriously, it's time to let the game stores that help support you use 1990's internet technology.
Thanks all who participated in the first set of deals. The full set of Winners will be announced on Tuesday.
Our 100x subscribers winners will be announced at that time as well
We are working hard to get our shopping cart running to handle future deals and orders we are just messing around with the nuts and bolts of the website.
So far we have been hand invoicing orders, if you haven't been contacted by us and have placed an order please drop a pm to this forum account one or us will get to you.
We have been taking ALL the advice, questions and comments seriously. We appreciate all the support you guys have provided to us and be sure to stay up to date with our site! We will be ramping up to the point where we launch deals weekly on a normal schedule period now.
This was our first set and we like to thank all the participants for supporting us and giving us a chance.
Stay tuned for more deals for sure and also be sure to fill out our poll on the right hand of the site it will help us for market research and let us know what deals we should be hunting/serving.
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On the other note - anyone excited for the new Fantasy Orc release? We are wondering if anyone is interested in deals for the new release ;D.
Grey Knights, before you order them wait for us to announce our deal for them.
Although you say that these deals work anywhere in the world, they don't really work in the UK, if you're shipping everything from the USA.
Eg box of terminators -- UK retail is £27.70, but I can buy them from Dark Sphere for £20.38 plus local shipping; from you with the 30% discount, they're $50, - 30%, for $35 + shipping, = £21.52 plus (more expensive) shipping. Unless you can start sourcing from the UK, and thus getting money off UK retail prices, and UK shipping, this is just more expensive and slower than regular retail (and with a fuller email in-box). Are you likely to address this any time soon, or should I unsubscribe?
Address it how? GG is USA based and shipping cost are what they are. I suppose GG could look at FedEx or UPS rates but if you're only buying one box or two it won't be any cheaper.
Breotan wrote:Address it how? GG is USA based and shipping cost are what they are. I suppose GG could look at FedEx or UPS rates but if you're only buying one box or two it won't be any cheaper.
I assume by bending time and space so that shipping to the US, unboxing a model then shipping it back to the UK becomes economical.
I'm sure if gobbo becomes a profitable venture they'll open a UK chapter
Breotan wrote:Address it how? GG is USA based and shipping cost are what they are. I suppose GG could look at FedEx or UPS rates but if you're only buying one box or two it won't be any cheaper.
I think ithe issue is that you and Ian are looking at different definitions of what "works." You seem to be looking at it from the same p.o.v. as GG, and Ian seems to be looking at it from a final cost perspective.
Now, I'm not saying EITHER is right or better than another. Just making observations.
From Ian's perspective, the deal doesn't "work" for him because, in the end, there is no savings. In fact, it appears almost as if it might be MORE expensive. On the other hand, when GG says the deal "works" anywhere in the world, he's simply saying that he will offer these models at $XYZ pricing to anyone, regardless of location, provided they pay the appropriate shipping amount.
I think it's just a matter of miscommunication, due to different interpretations.
With no disrespect to Ian I think that, in this case, the interpretation of the one MAKING the offer should be the one used.
They need to at least have some kind of UK affilliate if they're going to claim that "this works everywhere in the world" and that they offer "the best wargaming discounts you cannot find anywhere else". Groupon manage to do stuff worldwide... admittedly they're bigger.
It isn't the deals being offered that is the problem, it's the shipping costs. I don't know anything about Groupon but I assume they have people working in more than one country? If so, that would be why they are able to mitigate shipping.
Until someone opens up a group purchase effort in Europe, you're probably going to want to see what other dealers like Maelstrom have and compaire with GG deals. Look on the bright side, at least you're not in Australia.
We have posted this somewhere else and apologies its not here:
We are attempting to work with dealer(s) in the UK to serve deals to directly to our Euro audiences. We know that shipping overseas might be a pain for companies we work with over here. We are trying to create a localized segment to better serve our Galaxy Followers across the waters. This will make things much easier, faster, cheaper and less headaches. This is still a work in progress but things are moving forward and we encourage those overseas in to stay on board.
We understand that the deals may not exactly fit in in ever location and we are working hard to get an overseas vendor to help meet this problem. We have been in discussion with two stores and awaiting their reply still, and if that fails we will continually move onto the next vendor until we can secure one for sure.
Apologize for the delay we are still in infancy however we are working towards a unified means with presence around the world by working with different partners.
Initially our intention was not to house deals in house as we do now at this point, so our model has changed and we will constantly evolve to suit the needs of everyone in the world. Our goal is to save $$$ no matter where you are. We'll get there.
Ian Sturrock wrote:Thanks for the swift response, GG -- that's exactly the kind of thing I was hoping for.
I shall stay subscribed.
We apologize for the delay. Its complex and we understand the points that shipping and costs overall here due to different exchange rates may not exactly per say be a 'deal' for certain people.
The most tricky part is that we need to maintain our subscribers list as we are powered by the numbers. If we can show people we have interests the stronger case we can make to get something done. Though at the same time to maintain people would mean quality. Its a balance act but we are working hard to get it.
If that fails, then we are going to dump some serious money into promoting into some UK heavy traffic wargaming sites to boost numbers up for more wager.
Stay tuned our future announcement we hope to get it figured out soon.
Ian Sturrock wrote:Groupon manage to do stuff worldwide... admittedly they're bigger.
I investigate a little and it seems Groupon does things a bit differently than GG. Groupon produces an "online coupon" that you print out and redeem at a local shop in your area (you have to physically go to the store). GG is essentially operating as a mail order shop with better prices but more limited inventory (limited to the specific deal being run).
I've had good dealings with GG so far and hope they are profitable enough grow their business to serve the entire hobby community.
Ian Sturrock wrote:Groupon manage to do stuff worldwide... admittedly they're bigger.
I investigate a little and it seems Groupon does things a bit differently than GG. Groupon produces an "online coupon" that you print out and redeem at a local shop in your area (you have to physically go to the store). GG is essentially operating as a mail order shop with better prices but more limited inventory (limited to the specific deal being run).
I've had good dealings with GG so far and hope they are profitable enough grow their business to serve the entire hobby community.
Yep, Groupon ships/produces nothing. So the previous comparison isn't really valid...
I (Justin) am glad to see everything turning out well for the Galaxy Team as they are local Washingtonian wargamers. Having met up with the team, worked and helped out with their promotions (solely on that specific job -- sorry friends I don't handle your money) -- I can say that this business is serious and ready to go.
And because there are those who are going question my personally involvement with these guys - I only promote (I am an internet Marketer by profession) and helped establish their marketing campaign in which they spent only $40~ on promotions thus far and got to this point. Rest was done via social media, and word of mouth venues.
I was able to witness the en masse shipping of the Storm Ravens as well it and it was quite the sight. As well as help deliver and meet with people locally like Breotan & Moopy (both members on Dakka) in person (Albeit was like a wargaming driveby dealing haha). Though I don't manage all the other things, nor will I take credit on it. This has been a successful venture brought by John and Constant (yep thats his name) who are both local to the Seattle area. They have a team of developers who are working on the shopping cart, people in charge of packing the mass, and management to see it through.
These guys know what they are doing and happy to have helped push them to 500+ subscribers as well as the other people who were helping out with promotions across the interwebs.
In terms of Groupon - what the difference between them and Galaxy is that they (groupon) don't deal out the products themselves. Initially Galaxy was intending on doing this but nobody (at least those they seeked to have partnered with initially) wanted to get their feets wet in this new pervasive marketing and sales model. Might be due to the fear of GW ;D *shrugs*
I (Justin) am glad to see everything turning out well for the Galaxy Team as they are local Washingtonian wargamers. Having met up with the team, worked and helped out with their promotions (solely on that specific job -- sorry friends I don't handle your money) -- I can say that this business is serious and ready to go.
So to be clear--you, Justin Wu, are not in any way coextensive with Galaxy Games/Gobbo, you are not posting under their user name, sharing in their profits (except as a contractor for marketing), and/or leading or directing the company?
MagickalMemories wrote:The sudden silence in this thread has become deafening.
Eric
Sorry to hear that.
GameThug wrote:
I (Justin) am glad to see everything turning out well for the Galaxy Team as they are local Washingtonian wargamers. Having met up with the team, worked and helped out with their promotions (solely on that specific job -- sorry friends I don't handle your money) -- I can say that this business is serious and ready to go.
So to be clear--you, Justin Wu, are not in any way coextensive with Galaxy Games/Gobbo, you are not posting under their user name, sharing in their profits (except as a contractor for marketing), and/or leading or directing the company?
Welcome to dakka as first time post just to comment on this.
To answer these questions:
I share and have full access to any of their online accounts, social media accounts, business accounts, paypal and alike. As do with the other team members who have also helped with the IM campaign.
I am an information systems and architecture major as well as certified internet marketer.
Is this my full time project or career? No. I work as an internet marketer for XX+ network of Automobile dealerships in Washington state.
I also run a stealth startup - Kraken Media & Marketing. This is a hobby to help.
Do I have say with the company? Yeah, because I work with the team and have presented my share of thoughts.
In terms of money - yes I have stake in this company because my compensation and pay is dependent on the performance of the company and internet marketing campaigns.
I don't pack anything. I don't order anything. Other people do that.
If you are familiar with internet marketing jobs out there -- this is a standard in the industry. For those in charge of the IM campaigns and all other forms of internet marketing for a company the pay is based on performance proven through those campaigns via and metrics which is fully measured. This is much standard for any new business startup if you have had any experience with such in the past.
In this case I provide full on analytics with every work I have done with them, as well as the other team members who have performed their own internet marketing campaigns in promoting the business.
The other team members running this gig are those with a business background (Entrepreneur, Accounting, Information Systems) and they have setup a solid business infrastructure to make this business long-term and standing. There is no gain for any short term money, the best is residual and that is achieved through serving and meeting the needs of customer satisfaction.
Any knowledgeable individual or organization who has done business for wargaming will know a few things:
-Wargaming is NOT a great way to make money (unless you own your own product - which in this Galaxy does not)
-Retail is not easy.
However to me this is an extra hand I give to those within my local area (Washington) and within my gaming locations.
GalaxyGobbo's promise is to lower the costs of gaming. My belief from running Rogue-market.com has been the same.
And I can say proudly that I helped contribute in moving over 3k$ product within one day overnight.
And if you are going to say that is a failure. Galaxy Gobbo will be moving another 4.5k$ of product this week and continually see to build this up.
Justin Wu wrote:Welcome to dakka as first time post just to comment on this.
I'm a long time reader of Dakka, but I rarely post in large online forums, preferring local groups. However, my interest in this thread was a result of some concerns raised in another Dakka thread about Matt Bonder, who seems to have some affiliation with Galaxy Games/Gobbo with his new converting blog. Your involvement with both of these outfits adds another interesting wrinkle.
Justin Wu wrote:
To answer these questions:
I share and have full access to any of their online accounts, social media accounts, business accounts, paypal and alike. As do with the other team members who have also helped with the IM campaign.
I assume you mean *many, rather than *any.
So this means that you multi-account here on Dakka? Also, since you are posting in this thread as RogueMarket, are you sock-puppeting for the
GalaxyGames account?
Justin Wu wrote:
Do I have say with the company? Yeah, because I work with the team and have presented my share of thoughts.
In terms of money - yes I have stake in this company because my compensation and pay is dependent on the performance of the company and internet marketing campaigns.
Do you have an ownership stake? Are you a director of the company? A simple yes/no in each case will suffice.
Maybe Gamethug, RougeTrader, and GG are all the same person. *Cue dramatic music*
It seems GG is trying to do a good thing for everyone (other then maybe your flgs), and I am certainly going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe not my money right away, but I am not going to condemn the whole thing based on a single participant. The same logic would bar me from enjoying every sporting event, social gathering, 40k as a whole, etc.
I am curious as to when the 50% off winners will get their items. My brother was one of them, and has yet to hear anything other then asking for the paypal UN.
For me -and I can't speak for anyone else- my only negativity on this thing was the simple fact that Justin Wu is involved.
(@Lorek, I'm being polite and making sure there's no mud-slinging here, just an explanation of my reasonings)
Justin has been involved with enough things in the past that have gone south and cost people (who are not him) money, as well as other shenaniganism which I will not delve into here, that I and MANY other people in the online gaming community will never trust him again and will always look unfavorably on any venture with which he is associated.
RogueMarket wrote:I (Justin) am glad to see everything turning out well for the Galaxy Team as they are local Washingtonian wargamers. Having met up with the team, worked and helped out with their promotions (solely on that specific job -- sorry friends I don't handle your money) -- I can say that this business is serious and ready to go.
I work for and with Galaxy Gobbo.
I do not lead or own it.
Matt (RSO) has no stake, or business with GG.
There isn't a specific person who particularly runs the whole gig itself as it is a team effort outlined on a RACI matrix. But if you were to point to the lead it will be to Constant Z. who is the person who handles all the finances, and accounting for the overall business. He handles all the money, and business paper work end and holds majority stake.
If you have any questions in pertinence of other further business structure or model then you can drop a message over to:
Gobbo@galaxygames.net
If you have any questions in pertinence of me (justin) then you can send an email to:
@Whale - I'll check it out. Recieved an influx of messages over the round 2 dealings as well as our GK/PP announcement deal that will be ran on tonight.
All Dakka winners will be re-routed to a direct email for this. Galaxy will not collect money and not deliver. We will do the contrary.
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For me -and I can't speak for anyone else- my only negativity on this thing was the simple fact that Justin Wu is involved.
(@Lorek, I'm being polite and making sure there's no mud-slinging here, just an explanation of my reasonings)
Justin has been involved with enough things in the past that have gone south and cost people (who are not him) money, as well as other shenaniganism which I will not delve into here, that I and MANY other people in the online gaming community will never trust him again and will always look unfavorably on any venture with which he is associated.
Eric
I understand that.
And Eric, I just want to know who I owe money (if any). For every problem that I have incurred during a trade, to my understanding I have refunded. If not then I am right here, and I will fix it.
I don't have any interests in taking money over microtransactions. In my whole wargaming career I have sold over $60k GW retail in my whole life.
RogueMarket wrote:I (Justin) am glad to see everything turning out well for the Galaxy Team as they are local Washingtonian wargamers. Having met up with the team, worked and helped out with their promotions (solely on that specific job -- sorry friends I don't handle your money) -- I can say that this business is serious and ready to go.
Are you Justin Wu?
Is GalaxyGames your acount?
I am Justin Wu. I own Rogue-market.com Yes.
GalaxyGames is not own by me as it is owned by the business: Galaxy Games.
Which is not owned by me.
Read what I have wrote. In the paragraphs to gamethug.
whalemusic360 wrote:
It seems GG is trying to do a good thing for everyone (other then maybe your flgs), and I am certainly going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe not my money right away, but I am not going to condemn the whole thing based on a single participant. The same logic would bar me from enjoying every sporting event, social gathering, 40k as a whole, etc.
I'm not sure your analogy is apt.
How about this: Would you donate to a charity dedicated to saving blind starving children if Bernie Madoff was the CFO? Would you invest in such an operation?
augustus5 wrote:
So now RM and RSO have some kind of affiliation with GG? This just keeps getting better.
I don't have any issues with Dragon Forge or Chessex. If they have a history of non-delivery and shady business practices, I am unaware.
What I am aware is that YOU have some problematic business history, that you have a relationship with Matt Bonder/RedStarOne, that he has a problematic business history, and that you are involved with an outfit that he is advertising on his new project.
GalaxyGobbo/Games (why two names?) maybe be completely innocent here. But stand too close to <something that emits an unpleasant odour> and you're bound to end up smelling like it too...
RogueMarket wrote:
But last time I checked this was 2011.
Looking at the tiny little calendar on my computer, and the big one on my wall, I concur that it is in fact 2011.
I don't have any issues with Dragon Forge or Chessex. If they have a history of non-delivery and shady business practices, I am unaware.
What I am aware is that YOU have some problematic business history, that you have a relationship with Matt Bonder/RedStarOne, that he has a problematic business history, and that you are involved with an outfit that he his advertising on his new project.
GalaxyGobbo/Games (why two names?) maybe be completely innocent here. But stand too close to <something that emits an unpleasant odour> and you're bound to end up smelling like it too...
I understand your points and feelings. All of you people.
Including bartertown staff.
I understand I have done wrong in the past. Yes. I will admit it.
I am 21 years old going on 22 now. This is 2011, the past was 2006 when I was first banned. Carried on until.
I've left you alone guys alone and I think you guys can personally leave me and my business and such alone.
I have been diagnosed with ADHD in recent years. I also during my times of bad shipping, lack of communication and thereof was because I've sold at least 3-4k$ of wargaming during my early years in high school.
I will not use that as an excuse but that has caused me to be all over the place. I handle too much on the plate, drop the ball and messed up.
Yes I messed up.
Since stopping I have done nothing but positive business here on Dakka, sponsored the site, as well as sponsored Bartertown.com in the past.
And yes I got butt hurt when Bartertown.com banned me. I was an avid fan of the website, and at that time a high trader.
As well as worked with many wargaming people in the industry such as Battlefoam, Custom army Dice, Secret Weapon Miniatures, ChaosOrc.com, Bitz Barn, and many more..
GalaxyGobbo = Blog deal end.
GalaxyGames = Online store. (Galaxygames.net) which is to be released in the future.
We can all quote each other, say things and alike.
I'm just in charge of marketing. The rest of the galaxy team has packed and shipped out all the storm ravens.
And business will continue.
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kronk wrote:A business which you just said no one runs.
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Use GalazyGobbo or GalaxyGames at your own risk.
I'm somewhat confused here, where did he claim that it was a business which no one ran?
And to be the most fair, can you, GameThug please acknowledge: You are a bartertown staff member.
whalemusic360 wrote:
It seems GG is trying to do a good thing for everyone (other then maybe your flgs), and I am certainly going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe not my money right away, but I am not going to condemn the whole thing based on a single participant. The same logic would bar me from enjoying every sporting event, social gathering, 40k as a whole, etc.
I'm not sure your analogy is apt.
How about this: Would you donate to a charity dedicated to saving blind starving children if Bernie Madoff was the CFO? Would you invest in such an operation?
augustus5 wrote:
So now RM and RSO have some kind of affiliation with GG? This just keeps getting better.
whalemusic360 wrote:
It seems GG is trying to do a good thing for everyone (other then maybe your flgs), and I am certainly going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe not my money right away, but I am not going to condemn the whole thing based on a single participant. The same logic would bar me from enjoying every sporting event, social gathering, 40k as a whole, etc.
I'm not sure your analogy is apt.
How about this: Would you donate to a charity dedicated to saving blind starving children if Bernie Madoff was the CFO? Would you invest in such an operation?
We are talking after he gets out of jail? Assuming he was somehow allowed to touch others money again, I would watch others invest, evaluate the outcomes, and make an informed decision.
I have a friend in college who got a 0.0 his first 3 semesters (just didnt go). Rather then write him off, the school put him on probation and he got a 4.0. For some people RT/GG/Whoever might already be past that point, and thats fine. Others might not be there yet. If GG can provide a 4.0 for several transactions, I'd be willing to give it a try.
I share and have full access to any of their online accounts, social media accounts, business accounts, paypal and alike. As do with the other team members who have also helped with the IM campaign.
I am an information systems and architecture major as well as certified internet marketer.
Is this my full time project or career? No. I work as an internet marketer for XX+ network of Automobile dealerships in Washington state.
I also run a stealth startup - Kraken Media & Marketing. This is a hobby to help.
Do I have say with the company? Yeah, because I work with the team and have presented my share of thoughts.
In terms of money - yes I have stake in this company because my compensation and pay is dependent on the performance of the company and internet marketing campaigns.
I don't pack anything. I don't order anything. Other people do that.
If you are familiar with internet marketing jobs out there -- this is a standard in the industry. For those in charge of the IM campaigns and all other forms of internet marketing for a company the pay is based on performance proven through those campaigns via and metrics which is fully measured. This is much standard for any new business startup if you have had any experience with such in the past.
In this case I provide full on analytics with every work I have done with them, as well as the other team members who have performed their own internet marketing campaigns in promoting the business.
The other team members running this gig are those with a business background (Entrepreneur, Accounting, Information Systems) and they have setup a solid business infrastructure to make this business long-term and standing. There is no gain for any short term money, the best is residual and that is achieved through serving and meeting the needs of customer satisfaction.
Any knowledgeable individual or organization who has done business for wargaming will know a few things:
-Wargaming is NOT a great way to make money (unless you own your own product - which in this Galaxy does not)
-Retail sucks.
However to me this is an extra hand I give to those within my local area (Washington) and within my gaming locations.
GalaxyGobbo's promise is to lower the costs of gaming. My belief from running Rogue-market.com has been the same.
And I can say proudly that I helped contribute in moving over 3k$ product within one day overnight.
And if you are going to say that is a failure. Galaxy Gobbo will be moving another 4.5k$ of product this week and continually see to build this up.
For you maybe, but some of us are obviously either better at it, or enjoy it, or both.)
Retail is work. If you can enjoy your work, and do it well, no job really sucks.
We all have our oppinions and personal tastes. I've personally tried it myself and I don't enjoy it.
You have your own personal tastes and I respect them as well.
I find that I am better at helping business via marketing than to run.
And so I help around 10+ businesses (wargaming or not to this date)
So go ahead and bag on me some more.
GalaxyGobbo.com is still going to continue and push out deals.
For you maybe, but some of us are obviously either better at it, or enjoy it, or both.)
Retail is work. If you can enjoy your work, and do it well, no job really sucks.
We all have our oppinions and personal tastes. I've personally tried it myself and I don't enjoy it.
You have your own personal tastes and I respect them as well.
I find that I am better at helping business via marketing than to run.
That's a better way of putting it, than to just condemn it with a statement like 'retail sucks'. Thank you.
You may find it different later on. You're 21. I didn't start my store until I was 26, and went through a lot of changes, and learned a huge amount in 22 years of running it.
For you maybe, but some of us are obviously either better at it, or enjoy it, or both.)
Retail is work. If you can enjoy your work, and do it well, no job really sucks.
We all have our oppinions and personal tastes. I've personally tried it myself and I don't enjoy it.
You have your own personal tastes and I respect them as well.
I find that I am better at helping business via marketing than to run.
That's a better way of putting it, than to just condemn it with a statement like 'retail sucks'. Thank you.
You may find it different later on. You're 21. I didn't start my store until I was 26, and went through a lot of changes, and learned a huge amount in 22 years of running it.
Didn't mean to offend. When in terms of 'suck' sorry.
Its just not for me.
Hence I don't even touch or ship out.
I'm not into that grind.
Neconilis wrote:
What is the issue with the banner ad? I fail to see the relevance.
The relevance is that there is a relationship between a new Internet business and an infamous Internet business personality.
Alright, I just don't see the significance, as there are certainly a number of other banner ads on that page no one has an issue with. Therefore, wouldn't it also be questionable for them to promote themselves on the blog of someone who has offended so many? What's fair is fair and all that?
Do you want me to guys want me to get all customers of galaxy gobbo to come her and personally vouch on this thread?
I also have access to the stack of delivery confirmations.
I also have access to the mailing server and I can send an email blast to the people who have purchased from us in the past.
You might be sadden by the positive results despite your hate for me.
I understand that GameThug is a Bartertown staff member. So is MM.
I also understand the animosities and complex history between Me vs Bartertown.
Rogue-market.com vs Bartertown (competiting sites)
Galaxy is moving through.
So is Rogue-market.com (we are standing with 4k members)
Despite your unhappiness against me business continues and it will continue.
If you guys would like to carry a discussion then I'll attend to you in a few. I'm heading out my house and wont be online. You can post and chatter.
Thats fine, but I'm not running away from anything.
I'm owning up to my responsibilities and lack thereof and moving forward.
Neconilis wrote:
Alright, I just don't see the significance, as there are certainly a number of other banner ads on that page no one has an issue with. Therefore, wouldn't it also be questionable for them to promote themselves on the blog of someone who has offended so many? What's fair is fair and all that?
You're right, it is inadvisable for advertisers to associate themselves with infamous Internet personalities. If they don't KNOW they're doing it, that's one thing, though their due diligence is clearly lacking.
However, Justin and Matt had a close relationship at Rogue Market, and he is apparently a close adviser to the management of GalaxyGobbo/Games, so Justin KNOWS that the company is sponsoring an infamous Internet personality.
EDIT: Sponsoring and promoting, since a link to Miniature Wargame Conversions appears on the GalaxyGobbo/Games page as well.
Let me ask you, Neconilis, would YOU promote a site run by Matt Bonder?
I have dealt with Justin via Rogue Market on a trade that one of the RM Admins crapped on. Justin *did* fix it all in the end. It was strung out over too much time for me, but the point is, he did fix it.
My Storm Ravens are marked shipped and I have the Tracking #, so I'm patiently waiting. I think it was sent Flying Squrrel Rate.
Patience and attention are key attributes for everyone.
TalonZahn wrote:The best thing is for people to stay calm here.
I have dealt with Justin via Rogue Market on a trade that one of the RM Admins crapped on. Justin *did* fix it all in the end. It was strung out over too much time for me, but the point is, he did fix it.
My Storm Ravens are marked shipped and I have the Tracking #, so I'm patiently waiting. I think it was sent Flying Squrrel Rate.
Patience and attention are key attributes for everyone.
Only time will tell.
Now where's my GK deal in the Email?
I got some GK to buy.
I think they had some packages go out via squirell rate due to the understimation of shipping costs of storm raven let alone two, three stacked.
Looking at the records GG deals #1 made barely any profit. This was pure understimation of shipping costs which ended up being about 8-10$ per storm raven in which we have sold 40+ but only collected 5$ in shipping payment.
You're best bet is to research the shipping rates before advertising the deal. Get the product, pack one up. weight it, and measure to make sure you don't get into the 'large package' catagory, and figure the costs. Then advertise the deal. Unless your under 13 oz, and can use first class mail, most shipping is by pounds. 1.01 pounds falls under the 2 lb price. There can be a significant difference in costs of 1lb vs 2lb if you're shipping across the country, so even a small miscalculation can hurt if it kicks you over the 1 pound limit.
Packing material can also kill you. Some packing boxes are very light, and add a neglible amount of weight, such as the Priority boxes from USPS. Regular corrugated boxes are much heavier. I've grabbed boxes from work at times to ship something, and realized that the box weighed twice as much as the item I was shipping. Changed the box and saved 4.00 on shipping.
A stormraven is 66.00, and assuming you are getting a store to buy the product for you, you have a gross profit per item of 5.28, (45%profit margin - 35% discount - CC fee). Ship 40 and make 211.20, using volume to make up for low margin. Next subtract packing tape, boxes, etc. and you don't have a lot left. (assuming no rent, utilities, payroll, or a million other things, just working on cost of 5 guys working for free out of a garage.) But screw up the shipping and the volume works against you. If your average was 9.00 in shipping, then subtracting off 160.00 leaves you with 51.20 as a profit.
Working on a slim margin means being very, very efficient, and making sure all the numbers reflect real world costs. You're experiencing these first hand, I'm talking more at the general dakka audience.
As somone who ships close too 1k orders a week and doubling in rate monthly I can attest that shipping especially with the drastic rises in costs is going too kill you in the end. I understand many people gripes against Justin and know full well of these issues, but I will say this. In business if something looks too good to be true it most definately is. I will not go into how a lot of scams work as those people make sure the first few get the money. It's often not till later that people see the folleys of the dealings. Also based on your guys numbers it seems once you file at the end of the year too the IRS you will loose money as since you are a lisc. business you have to file sales tax monthly and federal yearly, and you have to collect tax on all in state residents.
BTW I didn't see an LLC in your guys title but you said your not a sole proprietorship so what are you guys?
Neconilis wrote:
Alright, I just don't see the significance, as there are certainly a number of other banner ads on that page no one has an issue with. Therefore, wouldn't it also be questionable for them to promote themselves on the blog of someone who has offended so many? What's fair is fair and all that?
You're right, it is inadvisable for advertisers to associate themselves with infamous Internet personalities. If they don't KNOW they're doing it, that's one thing, though their due diligence is clearly lacking.
However, Justin and Matt had a close relationship at Rogue Market, and he is apparently a close adviser to the management of GalaxyGobbo/Games, so Justin KNOWS that the company is sponsoring an infamous Internet personality.
EDIT: Sponsoring and promoting, since a link to Miniature Wargame Conversions appears on the GalaxyGobbo/Games page as well.
Let me ask you, Neconilis, would YOU promote a site run by Matt Bonder?
Thanks for your response, and at least that's fair. As for if I would promote myself or my own company on such a place, most likely not. Though, from a purely professional standpoint, if someone felt the pros outweighed the cons then I could at least comprehend the decision. I have no horse in this race however, I'm merely trying to understand and to be objective.
The following may be off topic for the thread. It's on topic in that the guy who started the thread made the comment, and I'm addressing it.
Again - no attitude here. Simple information:
I understand that GameThug is a Bartertown staff member. So is MM.
I also understand the animosities and complex history between Me vs Bartertown.
Rogue-market.com vs Bartertown (competiting sites)
I've never hidden my identity here or my affilliation with BTown. In fact, anyone here familiar with BTown knows it, as I am not shy about sharing it.
The only animosity that exists between you and anyone is based on continued actions that have been shady in the past, including your documented blackmail attempt against both myself and Bartertown, and your continued association with people of nefarious reputation within the online gaming community. There are no complexities in our "relationship." It's all pretty straight-forward. Even semi-recent actions of your own on Rogue Market -regarding your staff and honesty with them- came to *us*. We did not seek it out.
There is no RM vs. Bartertown. You overestimate yourself, and only you have ever sought for there to be competition -to the point of making sock puppet accounts on BTown and attempting to lure new traders to your site. Bartertown staff does not care how we stack up against other trade sites. We only care about the experience we provide our nearly 21,000 members. BTown staff cares nothing about your site, except when your decisions cause harm to the trading community or make their way to our site.
@Mods... I'll refrain from anything further, unless I'm specifically on topic for the original post or responding directly to something Justin says to me or affecting me (since he's the OP, I figure it's okay to respond to him), and I'll continue to keep my posts free of hostility.
Thank you for your patience.
kronk wrote:A business which you just said no one runs.
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Use GalazyGobbo or GalaxyGames at your own risk.
No individual runs. This is not a sole proprietorship
Does every business have one person run?
They can do so at their own risk and Dakka has already.
We have sold these storm ravens to Dakka members.
Period.
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GameThug wrote:
whalemusic360 wrote:
It seems GG is trying to do a good thing for everyone (other then maybe your flgs), and I am certainly going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe not my money right away, but I am not going to condemn the whole thing based on a single participant. The same logic would bar me from enjoying every sporting event, social gathering, 40k as a whole, etc.
I'm not sure your analogy is apt.
How about this: Would you donate to a charity dedicated to saving blind starving children if Bernie Madoff was the CFO? Would you invest in such an operation?
augustus5 wrote:
So now RM and RSO have some kind of affiliation with GG? This just keeps getting better.
Alpharius wrote:Remember to stay on point here, everyone.
Please, no unfounded claims or accusations.
We can only hold these new entities accountable for what they are doing now.
Second chances, and all that?
So, by all means, get informed, stay informed and make informed decisions, but try to avoid mud slinging.
This message is directed at no one in particular, other than, perhaps, myself.
To reiterate what Alpharius said:
The information is available and people are able to make their own decisions about what they would like to do. Justin has given his statement regarding his involvement in the company (something many companies, including actual advertisers on this site don't typically do) and if that doesn't seem satisfactory to some, they are free to cease doing business with either company.
As for the 'Rogue Market' and 'Galaxy Games' accounts here on Dakka, they are representative accounts for two separate sites and therefore there is no conflict with both of them being used (sometimes or always) by the same person. It is commonplace for a business site to create a forum presence via the name of the site that way people know how to find the representative of the company on the forum.
As long as the accounts are not used to break any rules here on Dakka (which hasn't occurred) they will be afforded the same opportunity to use the site as any other user.
And just to be clear: 'Dakka' does not endorse nor condemn anyone. We are not a site dedicated to protecting people from making themselves. Everyone business is afforded the same chances to come post here on Dakka, and as long as they abide by our rules, then they will continue to have that opportunity. What may or may not have happened on other sites and who or who isn't associated with whom is not the kind of game I'm interested in pursuing.
It is important that information is made public, so people can make informed decisions, but beyond that, they have to be left to make those decisions for themselves.
If anyone has further questions about Galaxy Gobbos business that they want to ask in an exceedingly polite and friendly way, then they are welcome to do it here, with the choice obviously up to the business representative whether or not to answer any question that is asked.
But beyond that, please let the thread proceed on-topic.
I neither was associating you with RM, Galaxy Gobbo or me.
I was pointing out that you, a respected business owner, is supporting the MWC pay it forward contest.
Galaxy has, as well, donated to that cause so has Chessex and two FLGS.
There was no mud thrown at you nor intended.
Gamethug (S_o_r_r_o_w from BT watchmen) was stating that any association in any way = sham.
I think you misunderstood / misinterpreted the meaning.
I neither was associating you with RM, Galaxy Gobbo or me.
I was pointing out that you, a respected business owner, is supporting the MWC pay it forward contest.
Galaxy has, as well, donated to that cause so has Chessex and two FLGS.
There was no mud thrown at you nor intended.
Gamethug (S_o_r_r_o_w from BT watchmen) was stating that any association in any way = sham.
I think you misunderstood / misinterpreted the meaning.
Thanks for clearing everything up. I think to many quotes and people posting made this a very confusing thread.
As I stated, I will continue to support Matt and his endeavors of his Pay it Forward Give Away now and in the future.
yakface wrote:
And just to be clear: 'Dakka' does not endorse nor condemn anyone.
So, also wanting to be clear (because though I've never had any dealings with anyone on this thread commercially, I have signed up to the GG list, and am intrigued to find out more about GG -- good or bad) -- does this mean that this statement, from the 1st post on p1 of this thread, should not be taken as Dakka endorsing GG?
"*Posted with Yakface's permission we are a new partner of DakkaDakka*".
I'm willing to trust GG because they are "a new partner of DakkaDakka", apparently, and I suspect they got quite a lot of other sign-ups from that -- from the rep that this site has built up. Were we mistaken about the "partnership" thing?
yakface wrote:
And just to be clear: 'Dakka' does not endorse nor condemn anyone.
So, also wanting to be clear (because though I've never had any dealings with anyone on this thread commercially, I have signed up to the GG list, and am intrigued to find out more about GG -- good or bad) -- does this mean that this statement, from the 1st post on p1 of this thread, should not be taken as Dakka endorsing GG?
"*Posted with Yakface's permission we are a new partner of DakkaDakka*".
I'm willing to trust GG because they are "a new partner of DakkaDakka", apparently, and I suspect they got quite a lot of other sign-ups from that -- from the rep that this site has built up. Were we mistaken about the "partnership" thing?
It was meant to be for a pending contest announcement in association with DakkaDakka.com.
We are in still in talks working things out, and so it was not *clear* what decision was.
Partner in sense of advertising partner.
So we will remove that, but you shouldn't think too hard about it.
In terms of UK, we are still trying to talk to some top UK providers and we will NOT be handling the shipping/sales. Galaxy gobbo will be lending its name, quality service and business reputation to back that kind of service.
Ian Sturrock wrote:
So, also wanting to be clear (because though I've never had any dealings with anyone on this thread commercially, I have signed up to the GG list, and am intrigued to find out more about GG -- good or bad) -- does this mean that this statement, from the 1st post on p1 of this thread, should not be taken as Dakka endorsing GG?
"*Posted with Yakface's permission we are a new partner of DakkaDakka*".
I'm willing to trust GG because they are "a new partner of DakkaDakka", apparently, and I suspect they got quite a lot of other sign-ups from that -- from the rep that this site has built up. Were we mistaken about the "partnership" thing?
Correct. Permission was given to make this thread and offer exclusive deals to Dakka members in exchange for them posting in this thread. Beyond that, no partnership currently exists (although certainly in the future things could be different).
Alpharius wrote:Remember to stay on point here, everyone.
Please, no unfounded claims or accusations.
We can only hold these new entities accountable for what they are doing now.
Second chances, and all that?
So, by all means, get informed, stay informed and make informed decisions, but try to avoid mud slinging.
This message is directed at no one in particular, other than, perhaps, myself.
To reiterate what Alpharius said:
The information is available and people are able to make their own decisions about what they would like to do. Justin has given his statement regarding his involvement in the company (something many companies, including actual advertisers on this site don't typically do) and if that doesn't seem satisfactory to some, they are free to cease doing business with either company.
As for the 'Rogue Market' and 'Galaxy Games' accounts here on Dakka, they are representative accounts for two separate sites and therefore there is no conflict with both of them being used (sometimes or always) by the same person. It is commonplace for a business site to create a forum presence via the name of the site that way people know how to find the representative of the company on the forum.
As long as the accounts are not used to break any rules here on Dakka (which hasn't occurred) they will be afforded the same opportunity to use the site as any other user.
And just to be clear: 'Dakka' does not endorse nor condemn anyone. We are not a site dedicated to protecting people from making themselves. Everyone business is afforded the same chances to come post here on Dakka, and as long as they abide by our rules, then they will continue to have that opportunity. What may or may not have happened on other sites and who or who isn't associated with whom is not the kind of game I'm interested in pursuing.
It is important that information is made public, so people can make informed decisions, but beyond that, they have to be left to make those decisions for themselves.
If anyone has further questions about Galaxy Gobbos business that they want to ask in an exceedingly polite and friendly way, then they are welcome to do it here, with the choice obviously up to the business representative whether or not to answer any question that is asked.
But beyond that, please let the thread proceed on-topic.
Thanks.
Wait, what? Are you saying it is okay to have multiple accounts as long as they represent different websites or companies? Is that the gist of it? Is that how you can multi-account over here? Even though multi-accounting is against the rules? I'm just trying to wrap my head around this logic.
I think its more like having a business account and a personal one. For example, if Nick from chapterhouse wanted to cruise the PM blogs, he would almost need another account, otherwise every comment he makes will be followed by "Can you make me XXXX". Similar to when someone has a work email and a personal one.
whalemusic360 wrote:I think its more like having a business account and a personal one. For example, if Nick from chapterhouse wanted to cruise the PM blogs, he would almost need another account, otherwise every comment he makes will be followed by "Can you make me XXXX". Similar to when someone has a work email and a personal one.
What the man said.
Two accounts are OK if there is a valid reason for it.
Being a sock-puppet, talking with yourself, cheating on polls, and so on, are not valid reasons.
whalemusic360 wrote:I think its more like having a business account and a personal one. For example, if Nick from chapterhouse wanted to cruise the PM blogs, he would almost need another account, otherwise every comment he makes will be followed by "Can you make me XXXX". Similar to when someone has a work email and a personal one.
Nick does have two accounts on Dakka . . but that is beyond the point.
Galaxy Games was discussed via private message around the arrangements and procedures as multiple individuals utilizes this account for the intents and purpose of business and promotion (No BS.)
GK email is being released today (as soon as item provider tells us the full pre order list for them)
whalemusic360 wrote:I think its more like having a business account and a personal one. For example, if Nick from chapterhouse wanted to cruise the PM blogs, he would almost need another account, otherwise every comment he makes will be followed by "Can you make me XXXX". Similar to when someone has a work email and a personal one.
What the man said.
Two accounts are OK if there is a valid reason for it.
Being a sock-puppet, talking with yourself, cheating on polls, and so on, are not valid reasons.
Okay, I can see that. Does the individual have to get permission first? Or does it matter?
EDIT: Oh! How do we know what individual is using the business account? Are they required to make themselves know?
Ironhide wrote:Okay, I can see that. Does the individual have to get permission first? Or does it matter?
EDIT: Oh! How do we know what individual is using the business account? Are they required to make themselves know?
None of us know 'who' exactly is using *any* account. That's why all accounts on the site are held to the same standard and the common excuse given by people who get suspended of: 'well it was my borthe, cousin, friend, etc, using my account at the time' doesn't fly. Dakka accounts that break the rules get penalized.
We ask that users pick one account identity and stick with to avoid confusion, but the exception is obviously if you have a public site/business and you want to create an account that allows users to easily find the designated representative here on Dakka.
As always, both your accounts must abide by the rules and if either are found to be breaking the rules, then both will be suspended. And at anytime if multiple accounts are found being utilized to break the rules in concert (bumping threads for each other, posting with one to avoid a suspension for poor behavior on the other, etc) then both accounts are generally permanently suspended.
So while permission is not needed to create a 2nd account (assuming you have cause to do so), it never hurts to get it, so we know exactly what is going on.
After all the facts, I m now undecided whether to join.
Did Justin clear up all the mess he made while in Bartertown? - Like repaying all money he owed (if any), or whatever other recourse. Anyone has an idea?
I get abit wary when dealing with people with a bad history. Things may be fine now when everything is going well. But once things goes wrong, it will be the integrity of people that matters most.
striderx wrote:After all the facts, I m now undecided whether to join.
Did Justin clear up all the mess he made while in Bartertown? - Like repaying all money he owed (if any), or whatever other recourse. Anyone has an idea?
I get abit wary when dealing with people with a bad history. Things may be fine now when everything is going well. But once things goes wrong, it will be the integrity of people that matters most.
Head on over to Bartertown and do a search for Justin Wu. You can read all about it over there.
I'd like to keep this thread clear of he said/she said (or rather he said/he said) accusations. The info is out there for you and everyone to find.
All I can say is that I have not personally had any issues with the man here on this site, but that in no way invalidates (or validates) what other people say he may or may not have done, nor does it mean this current venture is or is not reputable.
Do whatever research you need to do and come to your own conclusions.
I neither was associating you with RM, Galaxy Gobbo or me.
I was pointing out that you, a respected business owner, is supporting the MWC pay it forward contest.
Galaxy has, as well, donated to that cause so has Chessex and two FLGS.
There was no mud thrown at you nor intended.
Gamethug (S_o_r_r_o_w from BT watchmen) was stating that any association in any way = sham.
A minor clarification--I was not saying that simple association with either Matt Bonder at MWC or Justin Wu at Rogue Market and now at Galaxy Games/Gobbo is a "sham". My point is that there is a relationship between Galaxy Games/Gobbo AND Matt Bonder at MWC AND Justin Wu.
In terms of my identity, my handle at Bartertown is indeed s_o_r_r_o_w. My association with Bartertown goes back to the mid-90s, but I only became a Watchman a year or so ago. I was not on staff for the trainwreck of your association with Bartertown.
Now that I'm no longer an angsty teenager, I have been using GameThug online. I'm active on BoLS with it and a variety of blogs.
striderx wrote:After all the facts, I m now undecided whether to join.
Did Justin clear up all the mess he made while in Bartertown? - Like repaying all money he owed (if any), or whatever other recourse. Anyone has an idea?
I get abit wary when dealing with people with a bad history. Things may be fine now when everything is going well. But once things goes wrong, it will be the integrity of people that matters most.
Head on over to Bartertown and do a search for Justin Wu. You can read all about it over there.
I'd like to keep this thread clear of he said/she said (or rather he said/he said) accusations. The info is out there for you and everyone to find.
All I can say is that I have not personally had any issues with the man here on this site, but that in no way invalidates (or validates) what other people say he may or may not have done, nor does it mean this current venture is or is not reputable.
Do whatever research you need to do and come to your own conclusions.
It should also be stated that regardless of whatever actions may have taken place elsewhere on the interweb, Roguemarket has always adhered to all Dakka Dakka rules regarding trades on here, to the best of our knowledge. He currently possesses a total of ten reputation upon consultation of the List.
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looking foward to it 
. So stick around.
Looking forward to some good deals
You've been heavily promoting this for days now, it's a good idea to let us know what's up and when we can expect the deals to start coming.
. Yes, I have had an extremely long workday preceding this, so feel free to poke fun 
