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Post by: NoseGoblin
Details can be found here:
http://dreamforge-games.blogspot.com/2011/02/pre-orders-for-mortis-and-crusader-will.html
We are sitting about three to four weeks out from when I open up pre-orders, so start saving your pennies  The pre orders will be at a discounted price (estimate $50.00 to $75.00 off retail) $300-$275.00 for the base models configured with the weapons that normally come with the kit. Additional weapons and add-on armor (estimated $12.00 off retail for the weapons) $33.00 each.
I will let you know when I have the first casts....
All the best,
Mark-
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Post by: Jackmojo
Excellent glad to hear it.
Jack
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Post by: metallifan
...Knight Titans?
Excuse me a moment while I flail my arms above my head, squealing with joy like a prepubescent little girl
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Post by: chaos0xomega
So going to try to preorder when they go up!
Can't wait to see these, ohboyohboyohboyohboy...
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Post by: Absolutionis
metallifan wrote:...Knight Titans?
In before fluff-monkeys complaining that Knights and Titans are separate things.
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Post by: Platuan4th
Absolutionis wrote:metallifan wrote:...Knight Titans?
In before fluff-monkeys complaining that Knights and Titans are separate things.
See the sig.
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Post by: Darth Bob
These models look bloody fantastic, and I really (REALLY) hate to be this guy...but isn't $300 a bit much for something that's considerably smaller than a Forge World Warhound (especially when you consider the Warhound is only a bit more expensive)?
Also, what is it made of? It looks like plastic...and if that is the case, then the price is even more mind-boggling.
Like I said, the models are blooody fantastic, though. I love the Crusader. It would make an excellent centerpiece for a Grey Knights army.
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Post by: chaos0xomega
smaller than a warhound? Try again buddy.... Its shorter by about an inch, hardly 'smaller' and definitely too big to be a knight.
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Post by: Grundz
Darth Bob wrote:These models look bloody fantastic, and I really (REALLY) hate to be this guy...but isn't $300 a bit much for something that's considerably smaller than a Forge World Warhound (especially when you consider the Warhound is only a bit more expensive)?
yeah, your right
I'd rather have a thick, bulky, square FW warhound with half the rivits and surfaces needing to be extensively greenstuffed rather than this 100+ piece model of awesome.
oh and the warhound doesn't come with arms, and costs more.
no thanks
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Post by: Nicorex
Do you think you could list and show us some pics of all the extra weapon options?
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Post by: sonofruss
The bottom model is the base robot the top one has added armor and different weapons the added armor and weapons from both are available as additional options for ether robot
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Post by: Alpharius
Platuan4th wrote:Absolutionis wrote:metallifan wrote:...Knight Titans?
In before fluff-monkeys complaining that Knights and Titans are separate things.
See the sig.
Ha!
Wait until Platuan4th shows up and...er...what?
It is in his sig now?
Good times! 
Knight do rock though, and I wish GW/ FW would officially release them!
Until then, we'll have to rely on other companies to help us out - though as noted, these would better serve as 'counts as' Warhounds!
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Im sitting on the cash for a Crusader right now...cant wait. You caught me at a good time, I had given up on these and was about to blow the cash on whatever...now I know to save it. Put it up here, PM, hell Ill even give you an email address...I want to be in on this first thing. Automatically Appended Next Post: sonofruss wrote:The bottom model is the base robot the top one has added armor and different weapons the added armor and weapons from both are available as additional options for ether robot
Hmmm...not sure about that...as I understand it the top is the Crusader model, the bottom is the Mortis. The Mortis is lighter/less armored by design.
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Post by: inqscott
I thinks two for my keig army would due.
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Post by: NoseGoblin
Darth Bob wrote:These models look bloody fantastic, and I really (REALLY) hate to be this guy...but isn't $300 a bit much for something that's considerably smaller than a Forge World Warhound (especially when you consider the Warhound is only a bit more expensive)?
Also, what is it made of? It looks like plastic...and if that is the case, then the price is even more mind-boggling.
Like I said, the models are blooody fantastic, though. I love the Crusader. It would make an excellent centerpiece for a Grey Knights army.
Thanks for the kind words!
No doubt about it Darth.. its expensive. Too expensive? You need to be the judge of that. A Warhound runs $506.29 with both weapons.
A while back I published an article on my blog explaining the costs involved.
http://dreamforge-games.blogspot.com/2010/11/i-am-great-and-powerful-oz.html
This is not a six piece model with six molds.. this is a 8.5 to 9.5" fully posable model with 136 parts (its a project to be sure).
Thanks everyone! I look forward to the sales and making many more models in the future.
All the best,
Mark-
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Post by: Kirasu
I plan on picking one of these up too.. Id like to see more the weapon options when possible
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Post by: Mad4Minis
NoseGoblin wrote:
This is not a six piece model with six molds.. this is a 8.5 to 9.5" fully posable model with 136 parts (its a project to be sure).
Which brings the question...are we going to have to drill and pin the hell out of this thing?
and another question...what is US shipping gonna be?
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Post by: Salacious Greed
Woohoo, YES! Can't wait to  get this thing!
+1 to seeing if you've finished arms for both sides. Meaning, can I have the Crusader with left and right gatling cannons, or left and right power fists?
Greed
Yay, so happy to finally have the US flag back next to my name!
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Salacious Greed wrote:Woohoo, YES! Can't wait to get this thing!
+1 to seeing if you've finished arms for both sides. Meaning, can I have the Crusader with left and right gatling cannons, or left and right power fists?
Greed
Yay, so happy to finally have the US flag back next to my name!
Im thinking Id like one with the gatling gun and fist. The Crusader is extremely cool, but...Im really going back and forth on it. There are several issues/concerns I have.
The most important...how much pinning is going to be involved...Im not at all interested in something thats going to need all the joints pinned...especially on a model that complex. I dont mind a bit of a project, but I dont want something thats gonna take 6 months to build.
Between the wait before preorders and the 2 months (or more) wait listed on the blog it means we wont have a model in hand until almost June.
However, if I dont get in on it now I wont have the money to until this time next year...and who knows if they will still be in production by then...
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Post by: NoseGoblin
Mad4Minis wrote: I'm thinking Id like one with the gatling gun and fist. The Crusader is extremely cool, but...Im really going back and forth on it. There are several issues/concerns I have.
The most important...how much pinning is going to be involved...Im not at all interested in something thats going to need all the joints pinned...especially on a model that complex. I don't mind a bit of a project, but I don't want something thats gonna take 6 months to build.
Between the wait before preorders and the 2 months (or more) wait listed on the blog it means we wont have a model in hand until almost June.
However, if I don't get in on it now I wont have the money to until this time next year...and who knows if they will still be in production by then...
I only pinned the spine section.. The rest had no pins. take a look at the instructions and you will see what I did.
I hate pins as well... there are a couple of areas I used a "cheater pin" roughen up or drill surface and use two part epoxy glue.
Using the right glue is very important as well.... do NOT use standard old super glue. Use something that has a rubber binder so that it not as brittle. Gorilla super glue is a good option. All that is covered in the instructions.
http://www.dreamforge-games.com/Leviathan%20Mortis%20Complete%20Instructions.pdf
I put together the display model in about 3-4 hours. It must be said, this is not a build best suited for the first time builder, you should have some model experience with either plastic or resin models.
Shipping is dependant on your location and what you choose.... one example is, USPS Prioirity flat rate at about $11.00 or $14.00 insured (plan on this $$ and you will be safe) Canada will be about $28.00 to $31.00. Overseas $45.00-$48.00.
Salacious Greed wrote:Woohoo, YES! Can't wait to get this thing!
+1 to seeing if you've finished arms for both sides. Meaning, can I have the Crusader with left and right gatling cannons, or left and right power fists?
Greed
Yay, so happy to finally have the US flag back next to my name!
Yep, right and left of all arms.....
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Sweet, thats all I needed to know. Skill isnt the issue for me...Ive been modeling for almost 20 years. Whats the best place to watch for the pre order go...here or the blog?
Even better when it gets time maybe a day or two warning...such as "pre orders open at __ date at __ time...heres the link".
That would be awesome for those of us who cant check mail/web any anytime or place. For instance...I work all night w no internet access, and I sleep most of the mid day hours.
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Post by: Salacious Greed
Mad4Minis said:
Between the wait before preorders and the 2 months (or more) wait listed on the blog it means we wont have a model in hand until almost June.
However, if I dont get in on it now I wont have the money to until this time next year...and who knows if they will still be in production by then...
Yeah, I am looking forward to getting one of these on the table, putting it together! Can't wait!!
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Salacious Greed wrote:
Yeah, I am looking forward to getting one of these on the table, putting it together! Can't wait!!
I hate waiting, but this thing is gonna be worth every second. I only wish I had enough to order 2. One now and one later maybe.
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Post by: Chapterhouse
Guys,
You wont be sorry about the purchase. I know the kind of resin and molding that Nosegoblin is using, the manufacturer is aces and I think once the molds are up and going there wont be much or a wait for these to be shipped once ordered.
Its good quality resin, not like that super-brittle stuff Forgeworld uses.
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Post by: dralend
I know that the owner of the our FLGS wants a Crusader. And has wanted one for awhile. It would be nice to give something back to the game store.
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Post by: devilution
With a bit of conversion work and the right paintjob, this will make an excellent chaos engine 
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Chapterhouse wrote:Guys,
You wont be sorry about the purchase. I know the kind of resin and molding that Nosegoblin is using, the manufacturer is aces and I think once the molds are up and going there wont be much or a wait for these to be shipped once ordered.
Its good quality resin, not like that super-brittle stuff Forgeworld uses.
No doubt. Just looking at the masters on his blog you can tell its gonna be great.
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Post by: Platuan4th
Alpharius wrote:
Knight do rock though, and I wish GW/FW would officially release them!
You and me both. I know I'd at least buy a full 10 Knight Household, even if it was FW. That said, people need to buy these. We need to support the little fish. More variety and options is a good thing.
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Post by: AgeOfEgos
That Mortis is begging to be Nurglefied. 275 isn't bad either, on par with Titan costs. Looking forward to when you start casting this bad boy up!
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Post by: RiTides
Wow, I had not seen pics of the Crusader! Soooooooo awesome and tempting, will have to seriously consider it later in the year (hopefully when you have production going, too!)
Edit: Argh, more awesome the more I look at it! The pics in your gallery with the different arms and such are killer! I have been looking for something to save towards that doesn't involve buying lots of more small models, when I already have so many to paint... this just may be it!
Edit2: I also just discovered this link: http://www.dreamforge-games.com/Leviathan%20101.pdf Great info 
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Post by: Grundz
I also really love the build PDF's that you put up, really gives you an appreciation for the complexity of the model
are there any plans on any other awesome giant (but smaller) robots or are you just building out your "titan sized" line?
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Post by: Mad4Minis
RiTides wrote:Wow, I had not seen pics of the Crusader! Soooooooo awesome and tempting, will have to seriously consider it later in the year (hopefully when you have production going, too!)
Edit: Argh, more awesome the more I look at it! The pics in your gallery with the different arms and such are killer! I have been looking for something to save towards that doesn't involve buying lots of more small models, when I already have so many to paint... this just may be it!
Edit2: I also just discovered this link: http://www.dreamforge-games.com/Leviathan%20101.pdf Great info
That fluff is killer. Ill definitely be following this.
A 15mm system for this could do quite well. The cost of the leviathans in 28mm will hinder people being able to assemble an army of them (though I do think they will sell well) but the smaller 15mm scale with its lower cost could very well be a sales monster.
Hell even a 6mm scale (think Battletech/Epic 40k size) might do well.
Now bring on the pre orders!!!!!!
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Post by: Jackmojo
Mad4Minis wrote:
That fluff is killer. Ill definitely be following this.
A 15mm system for this could do quite well. The cost of the leviathans in 28mm will hinder people being able to assemble an army of them (though I do think they will sell well) but the smaller 15mm scale with its lower cost could very well be a sales monster.
Hell even a 6mm scale (think Battletech/Epic 40k size) might do well.
Now bring on the pre orders!!!!!!
this perfectly encapsulates my opinion as well, in 15mm scale I'd imagine getting several factions worth of warbands (the easiest way to introduce my mates to a new system).
Love the fluff and the models so far.
Any general idea on the 15mm size leviathans coming down the pipeline?
Jack
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Post by: NoseGoblin
Jackmojo wrote:Mad4Minis wrote:
That fluff is killer. Ill definitely be following this.
A 15mm system for this could do quite well. The cost of the leviathans in 28mm will hinder people being able to assemble an army of them (though I do think they will sell well) but the smaller 15mm scale with its lower cost could very well be a sales monster.
Hell even a 6mm scale (think Battletech/Epic 40k size) might do well.
Now bring on the pre orders!!!!!!
this perfectly encapsulates my opinion as well, in 15mm scale I'd imagine getting several factions worth of warbands (the easiest way to introduce my mates to a new system).
Love the fluff and the models so far.
Any general idea on the 15mm size leviathans coming down the pipeline?
Jack
I'm right there with you guys on this point. In my opinion the 28mm scale is best suited for modelers, it provides a large canvas to do some incredible paint jobs. The reality of table top gaming is that 15mm is a FAR better scale for vehicle vs vehicle actions. It has allways been my plan to have a 15mm line. 6mm? perhaps????
So , YES... A very definite and resounding YES, all these will be made in 15mm as well as 28mm. (Assuming the 28mm scale sell well enough to finance the venture) We are going to lose some pose-abuility in the 15mm versions due to the part size I need to permanently affix some components but all the detail will remain. This more static design will drop the number of molds required so that I can offer them at a reasonable price. Automatically Appended Next Post: Grundz wrote:I also really love the build PDF's that you put up, really gives you an appreciation for the complexity of the model
are there any plans on any other awesome giant (but smaller) robots or are you just building out your "titan sized" line?
Yes to this as well... The VR5 frame Mortis, Crusader, Gabriel, Azriel and Azazel are the equivalent of the WWII Panther and Tiger tanks, large with bug guns... Most all the other kits for 28mm will be smaller and less $$ to make, so less expensive to purchase.
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Post by: Mad4Minis
NoseGoblin wrote:Jackmojo wrote:Mad4Minis wrote:
That fluff is killer. Ill definitely be following this.
A 15mm system for this could do quite well. The cost of the leviathans in 28mm will hinder people being able to assemble an army of them (though I do think they will sell well) but the smaller 15mm scale with its lower cost could very well be a sales monster.
Hell even a 6mm scale (think Battletech/Epic 40k size) might do well.
Now bring on the pre orders!!!!!!
this perfectly encapsulates my opinion as well, in 15mm scale I'd imagine getting several factions worth of warbands (the easiest way to introduce my mates to a new system).
Love the fluff and the models so far.
Any general idea on the 15mm size leviathans coming down the pipeline?
Jack
I'm right there with you guys on this point. In my opinion the 28mm scale is best suited for modelers, it provides a large canvas to do some incredible paint jobs. The reality of table top gaming is that 15mm is a FAR better scale for vehicle vs vehicle actions. It has allways been my plan to have a 15mm line. 6mm? perhaps????
So , YES... A very definite and resounding YES, all these will be made in 15mm as well as 28mm. (Assuming the 28mm scale sell well enough to finance the venture) We are going to lose some pose-abuility in the 15mm versions due to the part size I need to permanently affix some components but all the detail will remain. This more static design will drop the number of molds required so that I can offer them at a reasonable price.
Awesome, I agree totally. The 28mm will make an awesome display piece. Id gladly grab up a bunch in 15mm as well. I wouldnt worry about losing the poseability with the smaller scale, as it will be more about gaming than modeling. After all how much posing can you do with a Space Marine dreadnought or Tau battlesuit? Id be perfectly satisfied with a completely static pose, after all Im a Battletech player, and those things are static pose.
So far Im absolutely blown away by your stuff. Keep it up, Ill do what I can to spread it around to the folks I know, Id love to see this get some wide exposure. Someone needs to introduce the mini gaming world to something other than GW. PP has done a good job in the fantasy(ish) arena, now we need something more futuristic, and your stuff would be a great one to do it.
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Post by: RiTides
Just read through this, linked to earlier in the thread:
http://www.dreamforge-games.com/Leviathan%20Mortis%20Complete%20Instructions.pdf
Is there anything like this for the Crusader? (rather than the Mortis?) I'd love to see some resin pics of it like that document contains of the Mortis.
Edit: To answer my own question, it looks like "no", although there is tons of background posted here:
http://dreamforge-games.com/game.html
And if you click on "models" you can see the instructions that I linked to directly above, under Mortis. My final question would be, on the site it appears that the Crusader head is an available option to purchase with the Mortis- I think this would be great, as it's a small change but makes a huge difference in its' appearance. I will probably suggest this somewhere in the new DreamForge forum once I read through everything that's there (basically 1 new thread in each section for now).
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Post by: Kroothawk
Hmmm, a 15mm scale Crusader might be a nice (but supposedly expensive) alternative to the Dreadknight!
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Post by: NoseGoblin
Kroothawk wrote:Hmmm, a 15mm scale Crusader might be a nice (but supposedly expensive) alternative to the Dreadknight!
I have no idea what the size of the DK is.... a 15mm Crusader and Mortis will be about 4.25" to the top of the shoulder... Just a guestimate, but I would imagine the to be priced at $40 to $60 depending on what the print and mold costs are.
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Post by: Savnock
Wow, the technical information in that handout is great! It's really, really awesome to have such rich background material for such a young system. Looking forward to seeing what comes out for your smaller vehicles.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Yep, smaller versions as dreadknights would be very cool.
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Post by: Alpharius
Kroothawk wrote:Hmmm, a 15mm scale Crusader might be a nice (but supposedly expensive) alternative to the Dreadknight!
THAT is a GREAT idea!
NoseGoblin wrote:Kroothawk wrote:Hmmm, a 15mm scale Crusader might be a nice (but supposedly expensive) alternative to the Dreadknight!
I have no idea what the size of the DK is.... a 15mm Crusader and Mortis will be about 4.25" to the top of the shoulder... Just a guestimate, but I would imagine the to be priced at $40 to $60 depending on what the print and mold costs are.
And apparently, it just might work!
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Post by: Salacious Greed
Man, I simply can't wait to get the 28mm version on the workbench!
Getting a selection of 15mm to use as dreads or whatever, that would be over the top!
Too bad no one has woke and smelled the coffee yet with Battletech. They would make a killing making it in 15mm, with 3"-6" 'dread' sized models for the different weight classes. Mmmmm.
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Post by: NoseGoblin
Salacious Greed wrote:Man, I simply can't wait to get the 28mm version on the workbench!
Getting a selection of 15mm to use as dreads or whatever, that would be over the top!
Too bad no one has woke and smelled the coffee yet with Battletech. They would make a killing making it in 15mm, with 3"-6" 'dread' sized models for the different weight classes. Mmmmm.
I think Harmony Gold and a few other company’s own rights to much of the Battletech line. You would need to pay a licensing fee to use these designs, if the holders were willing to sell the license. Automatically Appended Next Post: Savnock wrote:Wow, the technical information in that handout is great! It's really, really awesome to have such rich background material for such a young system. Looking forward to seeing what comes out for your smaller vehicles.
Too many years with RPG's for me to ignore fluff
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Post by: Commander Cain
A truly fantastic kit! The details and poseability really appeal to me and the price is also quite nice for a model of that scale. The crusader is by far my favorite of the two as the skull helmet does not appeal to me that much.
Looking forward to other products you come out with!
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Salacious Greed wrote:Man, I simply can't wait to get the 28mm version on the workbench!
Getting a selection of 15mm to use as dreads or whatever, that would be over the top!
Too bad no one has woke and smelled the coffee yet with Battletech. They would make a killing making it in 15mm, with 3"-6" 'dread' sized models for the different weight classes. Mmmmm.
Agreed on the leviathan...im chomping at the bit for one.
As far as big Battletech...the Mechwarrior clix game was that size, which was awesome, too bad the models sucked.
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Post by: Balance
NoseGoblin wrote:Too bad no one has woke and smelled the coffee yet with Battletech. They would make a killing making it in 15mm, with 3"-6" 'dread' sized models for the different weight classes. Mmmmm.
I think Harmony Gold and a few other company’s own rights to much of the Battletech line. You would need to pay a licensing fee to use these designs, if the holders were willing to sell the license.
I don't think they own that much anymore, really. There's a metric ton of Battletech Mech designs and the 'Unseen' is maybe a doze, and some of these aren't under the HG license anyway, so I think they've gotten them back. Sadly, the ones that are are very iconic designs for BT.
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Post by: Kroothawk
NoseGoblin wrote:Kroothawk wrote:Hmmm, a 15mm scale Crusader might be a nice (but supposedly expensive) alternative to the Dreadknight!
I have no idea what the size of the DK is.... a 15mm Crusader and Mortis will be about 4.25" to the top of the shoulder... Just a guestimate, but I would imagine the to be priced at $40 to $60 depending on what the print and mold costs are.
Guess the search for the perfect Dreadknight model is over
Now grab this goldmine and start preorders on 2nd April
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Kroothawk wrote:NoseGoblin wrote:Kroothawk wrote:Hmmm, a 15mm scale Crusader might be a nice (but supposedly expensive) alternative to the Dreadknight!
I have no idea what the size of the DK is.... a 15mm Crusader and Mortis will be about 4.25" to the top of the shoulder... Just a guestimate, but I would imagine the to be priced at $40 to $60 depending on what the print and mold costs are.
Guess the search for the perfect Dreadknight model is over
Now grab this goldmine and start preorders on 2nd April
The upcoming preorder is for the 28mm Leviathans, not the 15mm...and hopefully they open sooner than Apr 2nd. Automatically Appended Next Post: NoseGoblin wrote:Kroothawk wrote:Hmmm, a 15mm scale Crusader might be a nice (but supposedly expensive) alternative to the Dreadknight!
I have no idea what the size of the DK is.... a 15mm Crusader and Mortis will be about 4.25" to the top of the shoulder... Just a guestimate, but I would imagine the to be priced at $40 to $60 depending on what the print and mold costs are.
For that price Ill pick up a couple of the 15mm too. Now bring on the preorder for the 28mm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Kroothawk
Mad4Minis wrote:The upcoming preorder is for the 28mm Leviathans, not the 15mm...and hopefully they open sooner than Apr 2nd.
I am aware of that, but a 15mm preorder on 2nd April would be handy: It's the Codex Grey Knight and Dreadknight release
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Post by: RiTides
The thing is, it sounds like the molds for the mortis are done, and the crusader is underway... 15mm is going to be a ways off, yet.
Personally, I would love some details on the game rules. If I were to get two (later this year, not ready to preorder yet) would I be able to play a match, 1 against the other?
I know, "gimme gimme gimme", but you put up so much great stuff that I can't help but want for more  . Keep up the great work!
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Post by: NoseGoblin
RiTides wrote:The thing is, it sounds like the molds for the mortis are done, and the crusader is underway... 15mm is going to be a ways off, yet.
Personally, I would love some details on the game rules. If I were to get two (later this year, not ready to preorder yet) would I be able to play a match, 1 against the other?
I know, "gimme gimme gimme", but you put up so much great stuff that I can't help but want for more . Keep up the great work!
You are correct; the 15mm version is likely three months away. Profits made from the 28mm Leviathan will be re-invested to complete the line of 28mm Leviathans (VR5 Frame, Gabriel, Azriel and Azazel) and start the 15mm line. The speed at which I can get the new models in production directly relate to the success of the first release, Mortis and Crusader 28mm.
As far as the rules go, they are pre-beta and being discussed and refined on my forum.
You may want to check this out.
http://dreamforge-games.blogspot.com/2011/03/ever-want-to-be-immortalized-in-game.html
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Post by: Mad4Minis
NoseGoblin wrote:RiTides wrote:The thing is, it sounds like the molds for the mortis are done, and the crusader is underway... 15mm is going to be a ways off, yet.
Personally, I would love some details on the game rules. If I were to get two (later this year, not ready to preorder yet) would I be able to play a match, 1 against the other?
I know, "gimme gimme gimme", but you put up so much great stuff that I can't help but want for more . Keep up the great work!
You are correct; the 15mm version is likely three months away. Profits made from the 28mm Leviathan will be re-invested to complete the line of 28mm Leviathans (VR5 Frame, Gabriel, Azriel and Azazel) and start the 15mm line. The speed at which I can get the new models in production directly relate to the success of the first release, Mortis and Crusader 28mm.
As far as the rules go, they are pre-beta and being discussed and refined on my forum.
You may want to check this out.
http://dreamforge-games.blogspot.com/2011/03/ever-want-to-be-immortalized-in-game.html
So how far are we from preorders for the 28mm? Do you have the sample casts yet?
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Post by: NoseGoblin
Good timing on the question, I just got off the phone with my caster five minuets ago.
Unfortunately I do not have the first articles yet. They got sidelined by a job for Nike shoes, thats the down side of working with a big company. Looks like it will be one more week than expected before I have the first casts... so two weeks from today is the best guess.
I will make an announcement with pics the day I receive them.
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Post by: Mad4Minis
NoseGoblin wrote:Good timing on the question, I just got off the phone with my caster five minuets ago.
Unfortunately I do not have the first articles yet. They got sidelined by a job for Nike shoes, thats the down side of working with a big company. Looks like it will be one more week than expected before I have the first casts... so two weeks from today is the best guess.
I will make an announcement with pics the day I receive them.
Bummer, but at least its some news.
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Post by: chris_valera
I drop crazy money on this hobby, and I gotta say, I'm gonna take a pass on this.
I liked it better when it was a GW titan knock-off. Looking back GW was right to shut you guys down, and years later, this is what you came up with?
You'd have been better of making knock-off titan parts, like add-on arm-guns or heads, like all the eldar titan heads flooding ebay.
I respect the large spider walker robot you made back in the day, but this doesn't look like anything I'd wanna own.
--Chris
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Post by: NoseGoblin
chris_valera wrote:I liked it better when it was a GW titan knock-off.
You'd have been better of making knock-off titan parts, like add-on arm-guns or heads, like all the eldar titan heads flooding ebay.--Chris
You are welcome to your opinion, I don't happen to share it in this instance.
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Post by: Kroothawk
chris_valera wrote:I drop crazy money on this hobby, and I gotta say, I'm gonna take a pass on this.
I liked it better when it was a GW titan knock-off. Looking back GW was right to shut you guys down, and years later, this is what you came up with?
You'd have been better of making knock-off titan parts, like add-on arm-guns or heads, like all the eldar titan heads flooding ebay.
I respect the large spider walker robot you made back in the day, but this doesn't look like anything I'd wanna own.
--Chris
No reason to get rude and offensive.
And others will certainly take over buying this stuff like me.
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Post by: lostlegiongames&comics
So if a store wanted to carry these... ?
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Post by: chris_valera
Kroothawk wrote:chris_valera wrote:I drop crazy money on this hobby, and I gotta say, I'm gonna take a pass on this.
I liked it better when it was a GW titan knock-off. Looking back GW was right to shut you guys down, and years later, this is what you came up with?
You'd have been better of making knock-off titan parts, like add-on arm-guns or heads, like all the eldar titan heads flooding ebay.
I respect the large spider walker robot you made back in the day, but this doesn't look like anything I'd wanna own.
--Chris
No reason to get rude and offensive.
And others will certainly take over buying this stuff like me.
It's not rude or offensive. It's my opinion. Yikes, this place hasn't changed at all since I left...
This is a marginal resin kit at best. Although I'll go to bat for them and say I don't think the price is over the top; in fact, it's very reasonably priced if you inclined to buy one.
--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
NoseGoblin wrote:I think Harmony Gold and a few other company’s own rights to much of the Battletech line. You would need to pay a licensing fee to use these designs, if the holders were willing to sell the license.
Just to clarify Topps owns the rights to Battletech and licenses the rights to Catalyst Game Labs and Iron Wind Metals.
Harmony Gold was involved in the lawsuit with FASA Corporation over the Robotech `Mech designs but otherwise has no affiliation with the Battletech license.
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Post by: Buzzsaw
chris_valera wrote:Kroothawk wrote:chris_valera wrote:I drop crazy money on this hobby, and I gotta say, I'm gonna take a pass on this.
I liked it better when it was a GW titan knock-off. Looking back GW was right to shut you guys down, and years later, this is what you came up with?
You'd have been better of making knock-off titan parts, like add-on arm-guns or heads, like all the eldar titan heads flooding ebay.
I respect the large spider walker robot you made back in the day, but this doesn't look like anything I'd wanna own.
--Chris
No reason to get rude and offensive.
And others will certainly take over buying this stuff like me.
It's not rude or offensive. It's my opinion. Yikes, this place hasn't changed at all since I left...
This is a marginal resin kit at best. Although I'll go to bat for them and say I don't think the price is over the top; in fact, it's very reasonably priced if you inclined to buy one.
--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com
2 queries;
1) You do realize that an opinion can be rude and/or offensive, right? That these are not mutually exclusive states? Perhaps not...
2) Why did you go out of your way to link your website in your second post, when your website hasn't been updated in like 20 months?
Beyond that, it's simultaneously amusing and must be intensely frustrating to read a comment like the first one, but emblematic of a problem in "the hobby" as a whole: the incessant comparison to GW staples. What's amusing is that right now GW is clearly feeling it's litigation oats, as it were, so the notion that it behooves anyone to move into things that are expressly "a GW... knock-off" is somewhat mind boggling.
It's frustrating because at the same time that people seem to have this insatiable need for not- GW GW-style stuff, there are those of us that are sick of the whole aesthetic.
Personally, I find the work fantastic; with enough Grimdark to fit into many systems, but at the same time expressing (to me) far more elegant and "realistic" feel.
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Post by: devilution
Sometimes it's better to keep your opinions to yourself
Not saying I am against freedom of speech, but it's just to protect yourself from your own stupidity
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Post by: Kroothawk
chris_valera wrote:It's not rude or offensive. It's my opinion.
I find the "Glad you went out of business" and "you were better when flooding ebay with illegal casts" part of your "opinion" rather rude and offensive.
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Post by: AvatarForm
Buzzsaw wrote:Beyond that, it's simultaneously amusing and must be intensely frustrating to read a comment like the first one, but emblematic of a problem in "the hobby" as a whole: the incessant comparison to GW staples. What's amusing is that right now GW is clearly feeling it's litigation oats, as it were, so the notion that it behooves anyone to move into things that are expressly "a GW... knock-off" is somewhat mind boggling.
It's frustrating because at the same time that people seem to have this insatiable need for not-GW GW-style stuff, there are those of us that are sick of the whole aesthetic.
Personally, I find the work fantastic; with enough Grimdark to fit into many systems, but at the same time expressing (to me) far more elegant and "realistic" feel.
I agree with this...
I am more a modeller and hobbyist than a gamer...
I would love to paint a few of these for the simple enjoyment of what these fantastic sculpts could offer in terms of size and dimensions.
Not everything needs to relate back to GW or a game system. Though, when you think about it, if you cannot walk outside or look at something and NOT relate it to GW or similar, you may have a problem. 
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Post by: Mad4Minis
devilution wrote:Sometimes it's better to keep your opinions to yourself
Not saying I am against freedom of speech, but it's just to protect yourself from your own stupidity
I thought he did a good job. 8/10 on the troll scale. Ive seen better, but not many.
I did find his need for things to be GW compatible pretty sad though...shame so many people see GW as the end all be all of gaming.
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Post by: Retrias
I MAY sit this one out
I like the look of the Azazel better , although I may buy a crusader
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Retrias wrote:I MAY sit this one out
I like the look of the Azazel better , although I may buy a crusader
I dont like the Mortis much at all. The body is good, though I do like the heavier armored versions better. Its just the head that turns me off.
However, I will be ordering a Crusader, waiting anxiously for preorders...possibly some of the others as well if finances allow. Automatically Appended Next Post: AvatarForm wrote:
Not everything needs to relate back to GW or a game system. Though, when you think about it, if you cannot walk outside or look at something and NOT relate it to GW or similar, you may have a problem.
Im sigging this, I couldnt have said it better myself.
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Post by: chaos0xomega
chris_valera wrote:Kroothawk wrote:chris_valera wrote:I drop crazy money on this hobby, and I gotta say, I'm gonna take a pass on this.
I liked it better when it was a GW titan knock-off. Looking back GW was right to shut you guys down, and years later, this is what you came up with?
You'd have been better of making knock-off titan parts, like add-on arm-guns or heads, like all the eldar titan heads flooding ebay.
I respect the large spider walker robot you made back in the day, but this doesn't look like anything I'd wanna own.
--Chris
No reason to get rude and offensive.
And others will certainly take over buying this stuff like me.
It's not rude or offensive. It's my opinion. Yikes, this place hasn't changed at all since I left...
This is a marginal resin kit at best. Although I'll go to bat for them and say I don't think the price is over the top; in fact, it's very reasonably priced if you inclined to buy one.
--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com
No it is rude and offensive. Its one thing to say you want to take a pass on something, its another to accuse someone of crap work ("Looking back GW was right to shut you guys down, and years later, this is what you came up with?"). Go to charm school and get some class.
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Post by: NoseGoblin
I just got off the phone with my contract caster, they are finishing the molds and expect to be done Friday the 25th and shipping the first articles to me on Monday. Add 3-4 days shipping time and mid/late next week I will have them in hand and post pics.
The up side, according to the owner, is that mold maker is enamored with the kit and is making some of the best mold work he has seen to date. Fingers crossed they should be some excellent castings! That was music to my ears... I am very happy that the extra time is well spent. I would rather it be slightly delayed than get back crap castings.
I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for chiming in on recent comments; I try not to be bogged down with non-constructive comments and exchanges that serve no purpose other than to enflame.
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Post by: Mad4Minis
NoseGoblin wrote:I just got off the phone with my contract caster, they are finishing the molds and expect to be done Friday the 25th and shipping the first articles to me on Monday. Add 3-4 days shipping time and mid/late next week I will have them in hand and post pics.
The up side, according to the owner, is that mold maker is enamored with the kit and is making some of the best mold work he has seen to date. Fingers crossed they should be some excellent castings! That was music to my ears... I am very happy that the extra time is well spent. I would rather it be slightly delayed than get back crap castings.
I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for chiming in on recent comments; I try not to be bogged down with non-constructive comments and exchanges that serve no purpose other than to enflame.
LOL another good and bad update. More waiting is booooo, great casts are
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Post by: NoseGoblin
Mad4Minis wrote:NoseGoblin wrote:I just got off the phone with my contract caster, they are finishing the molds and expect to be done Friday the 25th and shipping the first articles to me on Monday. Add 3-4 days shipping time and mid/late next week I will have them in hand and post pics.
The up side, according to the owner, is that mold maker is enamored with the kit and is making some of the best mold work he has seen to date. Fingers crossed they should be some excellent castings! That was music to my ears... I am very happy that the extra time is well spent. I would rather it be slightly delayed than get back crap castings.
I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for chiming in on recent comments; I try not to be bogged down with non-constructive comments and exchanges that serve no purpose other than to enflame.
LOL another good and bad update. More waiting is booooo, great casts are
Lol.. seems to be the way it goes, good and bad news.
Just to set the expectation correctly, I will likely not be posting pics and opening pre-orders until April 4th, give or take a day. I have A LOT to do in between and even that date may change if there are issues with the castings. I know your chomping at the bit to finally get going but I need to make sure the horse is hitched to the cart before it starts running.
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Post by: Lord_Astaroth
So long as the bad news doesn't put you in the negative, and the good news helps out, I'd take that for what it's worth! I'll be excited to see these alongside many Grey Knight armies, as well as others. I have been excited about this release, and I hope I'll be able to afford this given the recent GK pre-order that I've placed.
Good luck NoseGoblin!
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Lord_Astaroth wrote:So long as the bad news doesn't put you in the negative, and the good news helps out, I'd take that for what it's worth! I'll be excited to see these alongside many Grey Knight armies, as well as others. I have been excited about this release, and I hope I'll be able to afford this given the recent GK pre-order that I've placed.
Good luck NoseGoblin!
Im not going to be doing a GK army, but Im planning to get a box of GKT for some mild conversions, and ive already been thinking they will look great standing at the feet of a Crusader. Which will likely be standing in my display case next to the 28mm Battletech Atlas. I would put the Madcat on the same shelf, butt hey are glass and only hold 13 lbs...those 3 big boys might push that limit all together. Automatically Appended Next Post: NoseGoblin wrote:
Lol.. seems to be the way it goes, good and bad news.
Just to set the expectation correctly, I will likely not be posting pics and opening pre-orders until April 4th, give or take a day. I have A LOT to do in between and even that date may change if there are issues with the castings. I know your chomping at the bit to finally get going but I need to make sure the horse is hitched to the cart before it starts running.
Please dont take it as complaining...its just barely contained excitement. Its been a long time since anything has blown me away like this thing does. From what you say the actual model should live up to or maybe even exceed the renders. The biggest challenge will be coming up with a paint scheme and executing it well enough to do the thing justice.
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Post by: jmurph
chris_valera wrote:
It's not rude or offensive. It's my opinion. Yikes, this place hasn't changed at all since I left...
This is a marginal resin kit at best. Although I'll go to bat for them and say I don't think the price is over the top; in fact, it's very reasonably priced if you inclined to buy one.
--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com
Yes, it hasn't changed at all- we still do not like condescending, uninformed remarks. And you will still get flack for them even if you add " IMO" or "just kidding" to them.
Constructive criticism is one thing, your comments are another.
As to *mediocre*, the design is quite well done and we will have to see on quality. But, given Forgeworld's production on its large kits, I find it hard to believe it could be much worse and the price is certainly much better.
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Post by: Praxiss
Would it be possible to post a pic with a size comparison to, say a dread or a warhound?
The pics look awesome by the way. I would definately get one for my IW army.
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Post by: Necros
So, like, say someone wanted to count your mortis as a chaos warhound... Are they're at least similar in height ... does it have guns available at all, or just the scythe & claw arms? If so, will the guns look similar enough to GW's versions to count as something believable?
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Post by: Grundz
jmurph wrote:
As to *mediocre*, the design is quite well done and we will have to see on quality. But, given Forgeworld's production on its large kits, I find it hard to believe it could be much worse and the price is certainly much better.
He's right, I'd rather have a $500 titan made from 12 huge, poorly made peices than a couple hundred part, more detailed kit for half the price.
I just like throwing money at GW so they can open more poorly managed stores!
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Post by: Retrias
It will have a Gun of some sort(Assault cannon look alike) and someone already put in the size comparison(they said it's a couple inch off), It's on few pages back
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Post by: Necros
Just caught that, went back and reread some stuff.. guess the weapons are all interchangable .. I like the idea of an assault titan but it would prolly just get blown to bitz before it got close enough to anything though :(
At one point I was considering a reaver with claws, but I don't want to blow $800 on one model that I will prolly never ever play with anyway. So the mortis is looking more like something I'd get, never was a big fan of the warhound model.
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Post by: Retrias
Yeah, this is a nice replacement to the warhound model
Assault Titan may work if your opponet were fielding no anti titan weaponry , except another titan , but yeah
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
Damn, this just makes me wish I was independently wealthy.
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Post by: Praxiss
How woudl an assult Warhound work? They dont have access to any titan CCWs do they?
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Post by: Necros
I dunno, but then it's apocalypse anyway so anything goes, you can just make up your own datasheet if ya want. I think I was thinking of the claws on the reaver though. Still, the idea of ginormous robots punching each other sounds fun
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Post by: Phayse
what's the story on foreign shipping? can you split parcels?
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Post by: NoseGoblin
lostlegiongames&comics wrote:So if a store wanted to carry these... ?
The margin may not be there to make this viable... at least not on these, perhaps other kits? I am open to discussion but I need to at least pay off the initial production costs before it becomes an option.
Praxiss wrote:Would it be possible to post a pic with a size comparison to, say a dread or a warhound?
Sorry, I don't own any GW kits. In a month or two I'm sure someone will post a pic of one next to a GW kit.
Phayse wrote:what's the story on foreign shipping? can you split parcels?
The least expensive option is USPS, I'm not sure how splitting parcels will help? the shipping costs just go up if its split.
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Post by: Phayse
NoseGoblin wrote:
Phayse wrote:what's the story on foreign shipping? can you split parcels?
The least expensive option is USPS, I'm not sure how splitting parcels will help? the shipping costs just go up if its split.
Just thinking of my customs payments I don't import a lot of stuff, so I'm not totally up to speed.
I may just be talking out of my ass.
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Post by: ruyn
So I'm definitely looking really hard at the Crusader. The big sell for me, however, would be more weapon options and the capacitor coolers (especially these) to replace the oil stacks. How far down the line will it be before we see these? I'd love to buy the Crusader, but I'd really like those capacitor coolers on his back.
That, of course, doesn't mean I'm above buying the model now and waiting a few months to add all of the bits!
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Post by: GiraffeX
Phayse wrote:NoseGoblin wrote:
Phayse wrote:what's the story on foreign shipping? can you split parcels?
The least expensive option is USPS, I'm not sure how splitting parcels will help? the shipping costs just go up if its split.
Just thinking of my customs payments I don't import a lot of stuff, so I'm not totally up to speed.
I may just be talking out of my ass.
No your not customs like large box's. I've found that anything in a large size box gets stopped at customs while smaller packages sail through with no problems.
Although that could just be my bad luck.
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Post by: winnertakesall
I am not keen on the arms, the sword looks too flimsy, the gun is kinda meh, but the head on the mortis. It's like it wants to be used in a chaos army as a dark machanius titan
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Post by: Mad4Minis
NoseGoblin wrote:
I will likely not be posting pics and opening pre-orders until April 4th, give or take a day. I have A LOT to do in between and even that date may change if there are issues with the castings.
Any word from the caster yet? Have the samples shipped?
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Post by: inqscott
Nosegoblin continue on with your dream I will most certainly get one or two. I been in this hobby since 89. And there is room for beautiful non gw models in the hobby. Good Luck
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Post by: Necros
Yeah I'd love an ETA also I'm thinking of getting the mortis, is it possible to order it with your vulcan cannon instead of the usual right arm? Will you have a left arm vulcan cannon too?
Or will the arms be easy to magnetize so I could have the claw or the cannon?
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Necros wrote:
Or will the arms be easy to magnetize so I could have the claw or the cannon?
Im pretty sure he has a pdf for the assembly instructions posted somewhere, maybe on his blog. That should give you an idea of how/where it can be magnetized.
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Post by: GiraffeX
In regards to Phayse's question about customs charges to the UK if the contents of the order are over £18 then there will be additional charges, on top of the customs charge (VAT) there is also a holding fee by Royal Mail of £8.
Yep I've just been unlucky again.
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Im going to take the lack of word from NoseGoblin as a good sign. He stated on the DreamForge forums that the days before the pre-order opening would be very busy.
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Post by: NoseGoblin
Mad4Minis wrote:Im going to take the lack of word from NoseGoblin as a good sign. He stated on the DreamForge forums that the days before the pre-order opening would be very busy.
More bad news I'm afraid. 90% of the castings were good bit the main body sections had some issues. I am trying to work out this problem now but I don’t have a firm date yet on when he will get me the updated parts. Likely another week?
Sorry for the bad news......lord knows I'm not happy about it.
I will let you know when I have some definitive answers.
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Post by: inqscott
It is what it is,carry on the machine god waits
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Post by: Mad4Minis
NoseGoblin wrote:Mad4Minis wrote:Im going to take the lack of word from NoseGoblin as a good sign. He stated on the DreamForge forums that the days before the pre-order opening would be very busy.
More bad news I'm afraid. 90% of the castings were good bit the main body sections had some issues. I am trying to work out this problem now but I don’t have a firm date yet on when he will get me the updated parts. Likely another week?
Sorry for the bad news......lord knows I'm not happy about it.
I will let you know when I have some definitive answers.
Any chance of seeing some pics of the parts in question?
Is it something that just needs a recast, or a modification to the mold?
What are the chances of the caster not being able or willing to correct the issue and causing the need to find another caster?
Basically is it something that can, and will, be corrected quickly or can we expect a significant wait?
Sorry to ask so many questions but I get kinda iffy on small companies and repeated delays. For instance, back in Nov 2010 I emailed Khurasan about a model that was listed on their website as being in the casting stage, and they said available by the end of december. I emailed them a couple more times in Jan and Feb...both times got told by the end of the month. Its now April and still listed as in the casting stage. Needless to say ive written it off as never going to happen.
I really want a Crusader, Ive been watching it since I saw it on miniaturereview.com last year, but at the same time I dont want to sit on the money for 3 or 4 more months only to have it never actually hit production.
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Post by: NoseGoblin
Mad4Minis wrote:NoseGoblin wrote:Mad4Minis wrote:Im going to take the lack of word from NoseGoblin as a good sign. He stated on the DreamForge forums that the days before the pre-order opening would be very busy.
More bad news I'm afraid. 90% of the castings were good bit the main body sections had some issues. I am trying to work out this problem now but I don’t have a firm date yet on when he will get me the updated parts. Likely another week?
Sorry for the bad news......lord knows I'm not happy about it.
I will let you know when I have some definitive answers.
Any chance of seeing some pics of the parts in question?
Is it something that just needs a recast, or a modification to the mold?
Keep in ind there are about 140 parts to the kit... all were good accept for four, unfortunately these four parts with problems were the main body shell so the issue would be immediately noticeable.
What are the chances of the caster not being able or willing to correct the issue and causing the need to find another caster?
Basically is it something that can, and will, be corrected quickly or can we expect a significant wait?
Sorry to ask so many questions but I get kinda iffy on small companies and repeated delays. For instance, back in Nov 2010 I emailed Khurasan about a model that was listed on their website as being in the casting stage, and they said available by the end of december. I emailed them a couple more times in Jan and Feb...both times got told by the end of the month. Its now April and still listed as in the casting stage. Needless to say ive written it off as never going to happen.
I really want a Crusader, Ive been watching it since I saw it on miniaturereview.com last year, but at the same time I dont want to sit on the money for 3 or 4 more months only to have it never actually hit production.
I hear you… I really do.... NO ONE is more frustrated about this than me. Likely it just needs to be re-cast with no mold reworking. He was getting mold separation in bad places, causing 1/8" thick flash at the mold parting line. UNACCEPTABLE! I called my caster went over the issues and explained that this was unacceptable. He talked with his mold guy on Monday and they seem to agree that it just needs more pressure on the mold. They need to recast the parts for my inspection.
I will not send something like that to my customers and expect them to fork out $300.00. I am sorry for the delay, but this is clearly not in my control... Will there be more delays? I hope not but I have no guarantees. If you feel you cannot wait until this has been resolved I completely understand. I refuse to sell something I would not be happy with and I will not rush a model to market simply to have my customers view my product with disappointment.
When I have some solid information (dates and such) from the caster I wil let you know.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Keep in mind of the 140 parts only four had major issues.. Unfortunately these four parts were the main body section.
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Post by: Necros
I'd rather wait for it to be perfect than get something Forge-World-ified with bad flash and casting defects all over the place.
Question though.. when it's released, will we be able to order it with the weapons we want? Like, I was hoping to get the Mortis, but with the vulcan cannon instead of the claw arm.
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Post by: ruyn
Necros wrote:I'd rather wait for it to be perfect than get something Forge-World-ified with bad flash and casting defects all over the place.
Question though.. when it's released, will we be able to order it with the weapons we want? Like, I was hoping to get the Mortis, but with the vulcan cannon instead of the claw arm.
Agreed. Most of us are fairly patient folk and would much rather see a quality cast than a rushed production with flash everywhere. I'll definitely wait.
Also, after having seen the capacitor coolers designed to replace the oil stacks, I've got to ask when you have those planned for build/release.
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Post by: NoseGoblin
Necros wrote:I'd rather wait for it to be perfect than get something Forge-World-ified with bad flash and casting defects all over the place.
Question though.. when it's released, will we be able to order it with the weapons we want? Like, I was hoping to get the Mortis, but with the vulcan cannon instead of the claw arm.
ruyn wrote:Necros wrote:I'd rather wait for it to be perfect than get something Forge-World-ified with bad flash and casting defects all over the place.
Question though.. when it's released, will we be able to order it with the weapons we want? Like, I was hoping to get the Mortis, but with the vulcan cannon instead of the claw arm.
Agreed. Most of us are fairly patient folk and would much rather see a quality cast than a rushed production with flash everywhere. I'll definitely wait.
Also, after having seen the capacitor coolers designed to replace the oil stacks, I've got to ask when you have those planned for build/release.
Sorry guys for not answering your earlier questions...
Necros: The kits are sold as a complete model but you can get additional arms... The arms are hot swappable so no magnets needed.
Ruyn: The Capacitor Coolers will be released with the Gabriel. This is one component I will have available as a separate item (likely casting them myself) As far as a date? nothing is set in stone... If the orders for the Crusader and Mortis go well then I can push it through quicker.... If not then it may be a few months.
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Post by: ruyn
NoseGoblin wrote:Ruyn: The Capacitor Coolers will be released with the Gabriel. This is one component I will have available as a separate item (likely casting them myself) As far as a date? nothing is set in stone... If the orders for the Crusader and Mortis go well then I can push it through quicker.... If not then it may be a few months.
I'll probably go ahead and get the crusader then and wait for the coolers to paint him up. Will probably pick up the Gabriel too. Will the Gabriel, Azriel, and Azazel have different armor/bodies?
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Post by: TyraelVladinhurst
must buy for mechanicus army!  and since the price is so good i may buy a few, or not depends if i want some FW stuff this year
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Post by: Mad4Minis
NoseGoblin wrote:
He was getting mold separation in bad places, causing 1/8" thick flash at the mold parting line.
Yeah thats pretty bad, you would think it would have been caught and corrected before shipping.
I hope it was just a one time blunder and everything works out good. Hopefully his QC is better during production. Id hate to wait a month or two after shelling out the cash just to find out 1/2 the run was rejected and had to be recast.
I know Ill be holding out as long as possible for one.
Even if I dont get in on it Im just one order and it seems you have plenty of people who are ready anytime, some even ordering multiple units, so no doubt it will be successful.
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Post by: inqscott
It seems a small army is waiting to buy I hope your caster gets it right this time around.
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Still no news, bummer.
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Latest news from Dreamforge forum...entire kit is being recast, not just the bad parts...no firm date on when it will be in hand yet...
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