hello dakkas,
could someone please post here the measurements of an imperial ogryn?
height from head to toe
length of torso
length of arms
length of legs...
all measurements just 2x?...hmmm and on a termie base?
i plan on trying some tricks with sculpy and stuff to make an attempt at a bit bigger scale...and getting an ugly face might be a bit of a cheating start^^
oki, now do you have an idea what weapons i could give them? i have some terminator stormbolters i could cut up and also some spares in my heavyweapons bitzbox...some autocanons and two heavy bolters... or even mortars... would that work? and how could they hold these weapons?
hmmm guess your right...probably will do only up to five of them anyway, more like only four...as after the fourth i would be on my own with arms...i have to do some research for the ogryns now i guess...dakka gallery here i come^^
had a quick stroll through the gallery and boy are there good minis on... not that much motivating then... would have been a whole lot better if i just saw bad models there...^^
Don't worry about any competition, your models are yours once you have added your own touches to them! No one else makes minis quite the way of others so don't panic. Think on that while I get some sleep.
Ripper guns are supposed to be heavy assault shotguns. Anything thats big, simple looking and with a magazine of large calibre rounds tends to do the trick. A shortened autocannon or slightly modded Heavy bolter would do. I've also seen some good looking Ogruns with modeified Ork Heavy Shootas.
i have thought about using ork shootas too...i would also not totaly rule out to do some ripperguns from scratch... using Q.tips would help probably in tht matter or are the arrels to thin?
So, I scratch-built my ogryn, and the original advice of taking every measurement and increasing it by 2x is surprisingly close on. The only problem with doing this literally is that the models will look more like giants than like ogryn. As such, at least for the legs, you've got to cut the increase down to less than 200%.
As for ripper guns, it's nothing that some cheap aluminum tubing from a hardware store and some spare bitz can't handle.
oh i know your thread fully well Ailaros ...the maximum of inspiration^^
even today i had a quick lookaround to your ogryn thread...
tday i dabbled a bit in scratchbuilding... nothing really to show here, just building a quick body up with two attached ogre arms and an ogre head...
if i get it to standing built i will show my progress...
Spare auto-cannons, with the barrels cut down, and the flash suppressor pinned back on would look a little more "shotgunny" and durable, plus they have the ammo drums!
i also have some Tau "gatling guns" and and wouldnt rule out the idea to scratchbuilt a gatling for these then...would make posing quite easier then too...like a predator 1 gatling...
Automatically Appended Next Post: so i did say i would post some pics of my work when i reach a standing model moment... but i am so showy now here on dakka that i couldn´t resist some early WIP...
All I've gott say is how's about those gentlemanly ogryns that guy has done that you mentioned...monocles? Or aren't these praetorians?
Lookin' good, and I recommend ones similar to this:
but obviously less high-tech and a proper barrel...
and Ailaros see above link in his post made the poshest looking Ogryns the world has seen...
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i have still some of these in my bitz box and considered them too, they are always cool looking... mybe with those nice amobelts from zinge that are around...
The best Ogryn weapons are ones that can be used as a club if it jams, or runs out of bullets, as the Ogryns have a tendency to go wild with the trigger finger!
Viktor von Domm wrote:i remember alan rickman in robin hood as sheriff of nothingham threatening to disebowl robin with a "blunt spoon"...
wasn't it that he was going to cut his heart out with a spoon, and then his cousin asked "why not an axe?" and the sherrif replied "because it's blunt, It'll hurt more"?
Right, that's why I like the hand cannon look for ripper guns, rather than the autoshotty. Both can fire the same amount of pellets over time, but a break-action hand cannon looks like it's much less likely to have something break when the ogryn smashes it into a rhino than an automatic weapon.
hmm so would you then say to make a break-action gun from a stormbolter as a base?i know your version of weaponry for ogryns and if i would adapt to that i need a base to work from...
just googled break action...now i am again a bit brighter^^
Ailaros wrote:Right, that's why I like the hand cannon look for ripper guns, rather than the autoshotty. Both can fire the same amount of pellets over time, but a break-action hand cannon looks like it's much less likely to have something break when the ogryn smashes it into a rhino than an automatic weapon.
true...but would ogryns find it annoying to reload after every shot? If I was that simple-minded and cumbersome, I'd just fire once and then not bother reloading and crump some 'eds.
how about a cross between:
and
?
grenade launcher body, barrel and everthing but with the other gun's bayonets and general sturdyness.
Ailaros wrote:Right, that's why I like the hand cannon look for ripper guns, rather than the autoshotty. Both can fire the same amount of pellets over time, but a break-action hand cannon looks like it's much less likely to have something break when the ogryn smashes it into a rhino than an automatic weapon.
true...but would ogryns find it annoying to reload after every shot?
Wait, ogryn shoot ripper guns more than once?
They've got plenty of time for the lord commissar to reload their guns for them after the battle.
Viktor von Domm wrote:hmm so would you then say to make a break-action gun from a stormbolter as a base?
Nah, just use some pieces of aluminum tubing. Cheap, easy, and effective.
In C:IG, It says that ogryn's ripper guns are made so that it doesn't rattle off an entire mag in a few seconds, so maybe they don't reload...but that's after about 20 shots- break-action guns are one shot, then reload.
They usually never reload their guns, that is someone elses' job, just like the poor bugger with a barrel full of ration bars to lure them into the chimera!
well i did a bit of sculpting work on the hips of future ogryn and also i have begun modeling a rippergun out of a....:misslelancher form the heavyweaponsprue and attached two ogre cleavers... looks like your version shown above shrike^^
sorry no pics today...
VIK PERKUSTIN WANT TO SEE OGRYNS! I cant wait to see what you come up with. To be honest i would aim for a height around 1.5 that of a guardsmen but a width of say 2.0? I.E. you dont want 'em too tall but they gotta be burly. I say go with Orkish proportions; short legs, long torsos/arms and a hunched back (though not as much as an ork).
Indeed i myself constructed my ogryns from leadbelchers. The position of their hands helps a lot. Use H. Bolters with their ammo belts for ripper guns. Good luck!
today i have the first one based so to better work further on him from now on...in no short time i will begin with GS...a premier...
so this is what the brute looks now...i, myself see a lot of work and a lot of things not fitting for the scheme, and this wil have to be worked with...at least i cantell you that he is big and brutish...
a bit shy he only wanted to show is back at first...
then he got warmer with the cam and opened up enough to give me a full front bodyshot...
the arms i used are a clubwileding one and a beartrap wielding one both sans weapons...
speaking of weapons i give you the first try of a ripper gun...the image of the one posted by shrike i couldn´t get rid of in my mind...so:
Love the ripper so far. What is the material you are you using for the body? He seems to rather a large manhood (ogrynhood?) atm, Is this intentional? Personaaly i would bulk ou the waist a bit, better he has a bit of a belly than be skinny IMO. Like the large feet, gives him a good look.
i was pretty unsure about the feet... the waist will get thicker too as i will add a lyer of GS the next days...the "manhood" as you namend it is a byproduct of the skeleton of sprues underneath... couldnt do more wip pics earlier as the stuff i use, kneadatie i think its called in english is rather messy and stinks like hell...i had to use superglue in the process too and it is after four days of work in an overall still sticky state...^^
the anhood will probably either filed down for decency or , a bit that i think gets more and more dearer to me hidden under a scotsman kilt... then a scotish bonet and i think they will fit neatly into the reigns of the victorian army...they also will egt lots of bolter mag puches from SM as some kind of
amobelt from shoulder to hip over the breast...
the material i use is some kind of putty gleulike stuff for household work...when you have holes to fill and other manyl things to do...two part epoxy of the cheaper kind...
so i have to ask do you have worked with GS at all? since i only used this epoxy stuff i only know crumbly and rather unsatifying materials that mix not well, is GS better to mix? i am very hesitant to even open the package i have at home...seems to me when i open it the bubble of hope might burst and the blast of that might shatter my confidence...
Greenstuff has a very cohesive almost rubbery texture when dried. When working it water is best, Just tip your sculpting tool (or whatver you're using) in water each time you try and smooth it or sculpt a detail. judging from your pics i would recommend tipping your tools in vaseline each time you try and sculpt with the putty you have atm. EDIT, I reckon that the stuff he is made out of at the moment can be diluted with water like clay before it dries making it really easy to smooth but Very difficlt to detail. In britain i think that stuff is called miliput.
i have a packet of miliput too, the stuff i use now is frome a DIY store and rather missused on my account but for now as i want to learn it works...on some parts i have used water as a way to smooth and dilute the material... you can see smoother parts and then some rather crumbly zones... the one feet particular is rather unsatisfying...
the next ogryn, after this is finished will be getting a bit of better planning and work for him...i will probably make a wire skeleton or if still sprue skeletin i make the whole beforehand and then start the putty work...
well you live you learn... hopefully...
so i am stll in full battle with the ogryn...today marks my first time...first time with GS that is... i have to say i am not quite a fan to it.... if i had my little way i would still use air dry clay...but this would be without so much details and a rather fragile model after the sculpting so i better master that material GS and be payed off with a stable mini afterwards...
tho i have to say i could smooth the material quite good and even got some small scale acheivments in sculpting finer detail like the soles of its boots...
well i cut the oversized "manhood" with a clipper as the whole mini to that time was still sticky and not cured through...after a full nigt curing... well thsi seems odd to me...after that i got into full steam and produced the ambrosia of sculpters, the green stuff...
i have to say the first handling of the stuff was quite difficult and i sweared quite a lot to myself.but after i got both parts of the GS out of their seperate tubes the mixing went quite well and i was very satisfied with the substance...i think my mixture was a bit bluer than average but that was just as well...then i began to produce smaller blobs of GS and then aplied it to the mini...in the process of doing so i discovered that the pose of the arms was quite the hinderance...so the arms had to leave the constructionsite so to speak...after that the sculpting work went quite well and i have covered the better part of the mini in green putty...i think io will bring back the arjms in the next step and then cover them up too in such way as to imply that the ogryn wears a full uniform...so here are the pics and later i have some questions regarding design to you...
backside:
still backside, notice the sole on the left boot...:
and then the frontshot...with a bit of a tummy for adding a bit of character to the model...:
so now i want to ask you what i should do next....
yesterday i have told you my thoughts about a maybe adding a kilt to the ogryn...should i do that still or would trousers and boots be evenly good?
also if i add a shirt/jacketsleeves to the arms, how would i do that? someone got some helpful tuts to provide?
and if i want to still add a bonet to the head should i cut a bit of for that or would it work if i just aplied a very moderate blob of GS there?
thanks for shoing in and i would greatly apreciate some comments and a helpful pointing hand in a direction of guidance^^
I think this ^ kind of thing would look cool. Obviously this is aint in your colour scheme but you get the picture. . I am not sure how a kilt would look atm.
you are really quick to sketch such a pic so lifelike on your pc...you even did the beard right^^
i love the belly, doubt it nevertheless if i could pull it off the same way...i think you are right that the kilt might look odd now...cargopants will look more into character...
do you think the boots and legs are too thick?
Maybe a bit if i'm honest, but i think it will look fine if the rest of the ogre looks good. One thing i would sugest is filing the back of the legs or adding a little extra bulk in the bum region. As i reckon an ogre would have a pretty large butt lol...
i have to say the belly i did only to use the rest of the GS i mixed and didn´t want to go to waste.... but after i wriggled aroud that blob i saw how fitting the belly would look..
so tommorrow i will add a bit to the bumsection^^ and i think a major blob of gs smoothed ou to get the arms and upper torso in line of the lower body...
and looking at mi pics i have to second your comment on the behind of the ogryn... he looks rather un nnatural flat in that department...
are you refering to a bulls neck? i think i could manage that...i fear his head might be a bit to small in the end, but well he is certainly not the bonehead of the unit^^
well if i am as good as that there is no limit...^^
its rather tempting to do all those muscles...atfer all i have to just look at my catachans for reference^^
but i think if all goes wrong i do some clothes to coverup the crap i´ve modeled...i hope i can keep a straight face when modleing the bum^^
Hey Vik was doing some practise sculptin last nite and i found a 50:50 mix of Green stuff and milliput (the yellow, blue, grey and white mixed together) created a really good material. I christen this new substance 'Khaki Stuff'. BTW i suddenly feel an urge to sculpt an ogryn/ogre now, my grenstuff, milliput, tools and vaseline (NO! i only use it for sculpting! ) have been gathering dust for too long.
at TNM yep probably and i use the parts to get more structure to my ogryn too^^
at shrike...maybe next month i will spring into action...^^
at perkustin...sounds promising...not the vaseline^^ ...if you start the action be sure to post some of your pics here ...i like some inspiration and a source to nick some ideas like the next best chap^^
so did a bit of work on my model...the work was better flowing today...the mixture was still a bit to blueish and thus a bit harder than needed... have to fix that next time for sure...maybe first get the yellow and then the blue as then i can take lesser amounts of blue...
still i did an effort and repositioned both arms again to the body...the GS was quite long sculptable and i did some work on the shoulders,back and waisti think i am far from an end to the sculpting here...still groundwork to be done.. but still it is shaping up quite well and i get better at applying the GS to the sculpt...
so see for yourself...:
some with flash
some without flash and the setting sunlight...
thanks for tuning in...leave some C&C for me to learn and get better^^
All I can say is well done, and my criticism is try to have a line to define the boots and the legs.
and add some creases to the trousers.
and the top.
and more lines to show the top-to-shirt, top-to-neck, top-to-trousers.
and add a teeny bit more definition to...um...his...bosom?
Viktor von Domm wrote:vaseline^^ ...if you start the action be sure to post some of your pics here
Exellent you can now start on the details! Thats always why i never got round to doing a scratch sculpt, the bulking bit is quite tedious.
I have started on the legs, annoyingly i found a really good way of doing armatures AFTER i had started super gluing wires together. I have bulked the feet, knees and thighs.
I dont notice the width of the feet anymore so great job on getting the proportions. I like the slope of the shoulders, looks very natural. EDIT: @SHrike LOL!
i think in terms of growing up we´ve lost shrike underway...and will probably never fi9nd him agian and he wont get there on his own...well...
you really think it is thime for deatail? well...this makes me lighthearted and crestfallen in the same time... now i cann add character for real to the mini and now i HAVE to add charcter to the mini...
i think i will be quite nervous now as this is normally the moment when i really f...k things up...
but to tell you the truth i have recently recovered a veryx small ball of GS at the construction site and rolled it up to a lil sausage which i then put round the head like a bandana...a further layer will have to come too but it fave me a bit of confidence that if i take only very small measurements of GS i can come up with finer detail...
i have been thinking of adding SM shoulderpads as maybe kneepads... and later i will add some bits to the mini too so to getsome high definition detail too...like SM Bolterpouches for the cargopants look and such things...should i give the ogryn a backpack? something similar like the cadian one?...only bigger?
i am still a bit unsure of the arms position and my selfmade rippergun...maybe i will use it on the next mini...for now i think i have to make a totally new weapon ... tried a bit of posing with an autogun and i have to say it doesn´t look fitting... now i snapped the hand with the fromer beartrap off and will redo that too...i am still thinking i will get this hulking son of the emperor a mini gatling...how does that sound?...i think i will print out now a version of the maxmini one for reference...^^
vik
Automatically Appended Next Post: by the way... if you are so ahaead of the sculpting ... why not share some pics? even bad ones i would love to see...
Viktor von Domm wrote:i think in terms of growing up we´ve lost shrike underway...and will probably never fi9nd him agian and he wont get there on his own...well...
Hey! I'm not lost, I'm lagging behind! Wait up!
you really think it is thime for deatail? well...this makes me lighthearted and crestfallen in the same time... now i cann add character for real to the mini and now i HAVE to add charcter to the mini...
i think i will be quite nervous now as this is normally the moment when i really f...k things up...
but to tell you the truth i have recently recovered a veryx small ball of GS at the construction site and rolled it up to a lil sausage which i then put round the head like a bandana...a further layer will have to come too but it fave me a bit of confidence that if i take only very small measurements of GS i can come up with finer detail...
sounds good!
i have been thinking of adding SM shoulderpads as maybe kneepads... and later i will add some bits to the mini too so to getsome high definition detail too...like SM Bolterpouches for the cargopants look and such things...
sounds good again!
should i give the ogryn a backpack? something similar like the cadian one?...only bigger?
nah...ogryns are just able to fire a gun, and sometimes even reload...the smart ones can understand orders and tactics to the equivalent of an 8-year-old, while the smartest one ever can write an "N" and speak broken gothic. I dobt they can operate a zip/velcro/clip, then have the patience to rummage around...then be bothered to stop whacking and get stuff ot of it...maybe laderhosen?
i am still a bit unsure of the arms position and my selfmade rippergun...maybe i will use it on the next mini...for now i think i have to make a totally new weapon ... tried a bit of posing with an autogun and i have to say it doesn´t look fitting... now i snapped the hand with the fromer beartrap off and will redo that too...i am still thinking i will get this hulking son of the emperor a mini gatling...how does that sound?...i think i will print out now a version of the maxmini one for reference...^^
I think you'll do fine, trying out the details is Very rewarding. Anyway you only need a few details: pectorals, a shirt, belt, boots maybe a bit of muscle tone on the back? Then you can look for plastic accessories to give it more flavour, no sense doing all the work yourself!
Atm My Ogre it is a pair of legs with blobs of putty on them: a Blob for the thigh, a blob for the knee and a blob for the calf muscle. The feet are made from bits chopped off the collars on glow sticks with two Bits of wood glued on to the base to be a base for the toes. I still have to make the armature for the top, need to wait for the pelvis to dry so i can drill it.
My inspiration is this
Theres a great illustration in the book where it shows his anatomy (minus the rudebits as it's a kids book) which i couldnt find. Obviously the ogre will have a human face though. BTW if your kids ever express an interest in learning English or you want to read the best 'Comic-book' ever made i suggest hunting down fungus the bogeyman.
well then i give you one chance ... take it or leave it sporty...
i think you´re right about the ogryn and backpacks... i am having a bit of a problem understanding and feeling a bit inbto that character of a total dumb person...probably thats why i come up with such ideas...but if i want to get the big guy a gatling would it make sense in giving him a backpack full of amo...a belt coming out of it... like it would be only a big belt-amo-pouch?
bogus looks like it could be really nice...that sad face ...^^
using small wooden parts to give a genaeral shape...cool idea... this will be taken into account the next time i sculpt a mini... save lots of time and material and gives a clear shape right form the start...i was so fixed on the idea of using true sclupters material that thios totally escaped me...thanks a heap for that insight...
if the pic above is a look of things to come i greatly recommend paying ailaros a visit... he did wonders on the coats of his ogryns...and his heads look like he could have been an exelnnet hairstyler back in the golden years...
Automatically Appended Next Post: he got six toes and fingers on each hand/foot...sign of an angel...
Viktor von Domm wrote:i think you´re right about the ogryn and backpacks... i am having a bit of a problem understanding and feeling a bit inbto that character of a total dumb person...probably thats why i come up with such ideas...but if i want to get the big guy a gatling would it make sense in giving him a backpack full of amo...a belt coming out of it... like it would be only a big belt-amo-pouch?
hey! Are you saying I would know about how a dumb person would think? honestly...I'm not lagging behind that much now... how's about a crate or box strapped to his back to emphasise that the bag contains nothing but ammo, and that he won't need to open it? or just rambo-style- two ammo belts, one over each shoulder?
i like the crate idea very much...like doing it wooden style...with really basic straps around the shoulders...
no...i meant your probably better learned in fluff than me... well that isn´t really much saying as ants are probaly better in fuff knowledge...
I just finished reading february's WD...a quote in it, supposedly from some BA hero:
"For he that sheds his blood with me shall be my battle brother."
I wonder how they dreamt that up...
update time...
today i did quite some GS work on my lil ogryn....
used a more yellowish compound of GS too...i am quite satisfied with the outcome...
tho i tried to give him a shirtwearing look i failed to give him the neckpart of the shirt but made him rolled up sleeves...
also he now wears trousers and i did big and trusty soles to his boots...
notice the bonnet he is wearing and the sash of hopefully scottish apearance...because he will be a scottish brute...
i guess tomorrow i will be adding some regular bits to the trousers and will be working on his gun...
so here he is:
some points i still need to take care of with a bit of GS and some points i guess can be covered up by painting...
oddly i have had no problem with getting the GS to cure... after i finish sculpting the amount of GS mixed then i do things for about an hour and all is good to make other rhings with the mini... as of now the mini i getting quite heavyier and more robust...to my horror i even dropped it and it did nothing to the model...i think in the long run i have to look for a new package of GS... i think the stuff and me getting good friends now...
so finishing the warriors means sculpting or are you into painting them now? miss an update on your thread...
Automatically Appended Next Post: small update... made a size comparision shot with a cadian and a catachan metal IG and my new green Ogryn...
i think he is quite big... too big? i never saw an ogryn on the table so...
let me know what you think when looking at the green guy...
he should be tossing a caber, and wearing a kilt, whilst playing the bagpipes and eating a haggis, on burns night , in scotland or eating the bagpipes and playing the haggis
i think he is more like eating the piper and the cook in one go kind of guy/ogre...
do you think it is still possible to give him a nice kilt to wear? i fear his legs and boots are a bit too big... could be stupid looking...although a kilt would be übercool...and it could take the effect of too much legdiameter away...also i think while his croch was at first mightyly stuffed now it seems lacking in that department... meaning his legs are longer than they probably should?
your opinion?
Automatically Appended Next Post: so i did a bit of work on greeny here and to thank me for my work he is doing a lil jig to me and you^^
see what i ´ve doen to him:
what do you think?
tell me^^
vik
Automatically Appended Next Post: would someone be interested in an armed picture of my selfmade (well nearly) ogryn?
Nice! i very much like the 'Caber Cannon'. He will have to resist the urge to throw it in battle. He now reminds me of the WWF wrestler 'Rowdy Roddy Piper' perhaps you should look him up for a paint schme lol.
well i know him by heart^^... so only tartan... got that planned tomorrow... made a stamp to get some lines and agular shapes into his kilt...in a fresh layer of GS...
well it will be very difficult for him to toss his cabergun^^ as he will get tomorrow an amunition belt so tossing might become a bit of an obstackle... it will be attached to his amobackpack...but with ogryns i guess everything can be achieved with brute force^^
as for rowdy piper... a clean and white shirt with a red/blue kilt would be all he needs^^
I can imagine this thing going hunting haggis, shooting them as they try to escape...those little haggis are nimble little buggers...^^ lookin' good! All I can say to the backpack is...ammo belt! I like the whole "scottish" look to it... the ripper gun's cool but I don't think his arms are in the right position. Maybe have this ogryn one of the ones holding it one-handed in his right hand, maybe holding a haggis-grenade in the other? Or is that too far? I can imagine it going- "ach, you're nah doin' et right...this es hoo ye doo et!"
lol... yeah thats the spirit^^...
i have to say i have medled with the gun a bit and the shooting hand too.. i think they both look suitable now.. the latest iteration is better but not nailed down in a pic...
there will be a nice belt, have tried to make one out of cablebinders but that didn´t work out so well as these things tend to be so sturdy that they bend not to my whim...so i think i will GS my way through...
i read the fluff and description in the codex now and well i picture them as brutes and also i used the image of scotts not deliberate... it was rather a thoughtful decission...the picts (no pun here for i mean the scottish ancient folks here) where my backround idea... they would match these hard bargaining fellows quite good in my book... for all true scottish betheren i didn´t want to affront in the slightest here...
its just a way of playing with stereotypes...
i think if i come around these ogryns here the next GS project will probably be indish ghurkas as psykers...how does that sound?
viiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiik......................zinge......................viiiiiiiiiiiiik.........you know you want to...............
ghurkas? Yeah, sure...just be careful not to go OTT with them...don't want to be accused of racism...
no is it racism to make tehse chaps as brainy as can be?
also if i am not mistakes seing my recent catachans... the skintones should come of easy for me^^
The autocannon looks great , vik and the kilt looks alright , it needs a few pleats and a sporren though, If i was you i would consider reducing the size of those humongus feet , though , he has a slight cartoon flavour to him with those , and the kilt kinda emphasises them now. i would try and sculpt his shins and a pir of socks going into the boots , the boots do look good, and you have done a good job at creating them , but i would consider trying to make a realistic pair looking at reference pics , or even just cut a pair off a cheap action figure. , hope thats not to criticak matey , i think he has lots of potential ,and the face and body are a great match.
the main parts that make him look cartoony are like you´ve mentioned the boots and for my part the shoulder/upper arm and breast part...they are the weak points of the sculpt...
i have never cut cured GS... is it hard to do? i am more than willing to give this bugger a better sole to stand on...i am currently a bit short on suplies of cheap action figures...tho this might be a good thing to do when we get to a fleamarket in the nearer future...or i might even be purchasing something to fit the bill...by the way, would trimming work with GS through and through? and how much would be good? probably halfing the boots in width and lenght?
the kilt will get some work on it, i for now haven´t came around to do that ...but will do so in no short time...
it needs a few pleats and a sporren though
... care to give an interested but unknowing some insights as to what that might be?
well i thought fat bastard was made up to be looking like an ogryn^^
thought i could do some work on the greeny here but life and things happened...so maybe tomorrow...but i am not sure even that as my wife has some days free of work and she wants to make a tour with our bikes...(bicycles)...i hope it starts raining^^
at Lonecoon
now i know what the sporran might look like... in fact i had a funny moment and put an ogre kind of sporran for that just in front of hs belly too...tho the fantasy version of the sporran is a sight to not forgett in a hurry^^...
...I just don't get what's so funny about austin powers films...apart from a few jokes in there..."It looks like a giant-" "Wang! Pay attention in class!"
Hey Vik i just bought a couple of 'Colour shapers' for when i start the detail sculpting. All the best sculpters on Dakka seem to use them (CM Dante has them in his sig lol). They were ~4 euro each but they are essential for getting smooth curves in stuff like cloth and Muscles apparently. They look like brushes but when you pick 'em up there aren't bristles only a shape bit of rubber. Buy the smallest ones as they are cheapest
well i could have made some progress....but i listened to neil and instead of progressing i just sawed off the legs with the boots at knee level... and i am now in the process of recreating some legs for the greeny...
well i think autisn powers has sure its moments...and to tell you the truth a very hot liz hurley in the first movie is quite a lot merit^^
yep perkustin, colorshapers are very high on my list of things to get me for getting better...as of now i only work with xactoknifes and dentist tools.... which is a bit creepy in my book...^^
i follow CM Dante ´s latest project quite closley and it puts me to shame... his work is whoa...he even does a set of muscles before doing a shirt above...that is very strickt work...
pics will probably come about tomorrow...with a peglegged Ogryn^^
well the green orkide would tie in nicley with the usual red scheme...
well he has a pegleg now....didnt really plan on letting it stay that way... but you raise a valid point here.... a techfeel to the leg would cover up a bit of my worser parts of work^^
by the way... anybody know of any tuts or pics of GS works to make the head of an ogre a bit tech looking to get the bone ´ead look?
thanks mate^^, i plan on buying as soon as possible some color shapers.... this will get me hopefully on the next level...to smooth out the GS more...to get it more even....
well me i don´t have that too...lots of things to do in a household...but if i am contantly getting better (cross fingers here...) then who knows where that might leads to....
. I am not sure how a kilt would look 
) have been gathering dust for too long.
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